Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:14:18
Hello everyone.
It has been 3 years since SP SA Carbon R2 and i have been already asked few times to run it again. So here is SP SA Carbon R3.
Since that time things have changed, like most people are going for the cherry profile and so on. Thus R3 will be more basic and will offer only necessary keys in order to cover basic layouts used by enthusiasts these days. Of course all iconic novelties like warning signs or graphene enter are still there. As unique kits/features in R3, i decided to offer Carbonski alphas which are obviously meant to bring Skidata look to SA profile. And i am offering also the dual alphas and mods which has been introduced with Yuri and those will definitely set R3 apart from previous runs. And this time dual modifier also introduce dual f row ;)
Anyway here is short compilation of important information:
Profile: SP SA
Rows: 1-1-2-3-4-3
Vendor: Drop
When: probably Oktober 2020
Kits
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(https://i.imgur.com/KCaTIlX.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/ME9IgWH.png)
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Deskmats
Additionally i am planning to offer Carbon themed deskmats, which has been offered few years ago. To round this up, i am planning (not promissing) to add additional deskmat designs for Beezarre and maybe Boneyard.
Vendors for Deskmats:
- EU: Oblotzky Industries (https://oblotzky.industries)
- NA: NovelKeys (https://novelkeys.xyz)
Deskmats will be available for purchase in November 2020
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(https://i.imgur.com/Q2yGE75.png)
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:14:40
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:16:27
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Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:28:04
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Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 07 July 2020, 15:04:42
I humbly request one new skull novelty. Dealer's choice.
Post by: bisoromi on Tue, 07 July 2020, 15:05:35
Post by: UggNot on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:09:42
Post by: riterdando on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:20:10
Are the colors the same like R2?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:21:22
So sad about the lack of ergo support.
I sold my R2 ergo mods for...not far from the GB price and after about a month of listing them. You can get those aftermarket for a non horrific sum
Post by: LXVRGS on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:24:51
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:26:33
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:32:06
and nothing says skidata like relegendables
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:42:54
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 16:55:01
Seems like their only purpose would be to serve as accents for Carbonski, but I don't think that would look very appealing since white doesn't show up anywhere else in that setup.
I think the spacekeys kit would be better if it had white keys in addition to the gray ones. Also, it's missing a 1.25u spacekey, which is needed for Alice boards and standard split spacebars on ≥60% boards.
1.75u spacekeys, on the other hand, should be placed in the 40s kit rather than the spacekeys kit, since they are only useful on a couple of 40% boards. No ≥60% board exists that uses 1.75u spacekeys.
As always, R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn would be a welcome addition — and well warranted, imo, since there are so many Drop ALT and other 65%/75% users out there that use these keys. (Esp. since this set will be running on Drop.)
Looks good otherwise :)
Post by: wil on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:00:14
Are the white 6.25u and 7u spacebars in the spacebar kits really necessary if they are included by default in the alpha kits?
Seems like their only purpose would be to serve as accents for Carbonski, but I don't think that would look very appealing since white doesn't show up anywhere else in that setup.
I think the spacekeys kit would be better if it had white keys in addition to the gray ones. Also, it's missing a 1.25u spacekey, which is needed for Alice boards and standard split spacebars on ≥60% boards.
1.75u spacekeys, on the other hand, should be placed in the 40s kit rather than the spacekeys kit, since they are only useful on a couple of 40% boards. No ≥60% board exists that uses 1.75u spacekeys.
As always, R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn would be a welcome addition — and well warranted, imo, since there are so many Drop ALT and other 65%/75% users out there that use these keys. (Esp. since this set will be running on Drop.)
Looks good otherwise :)
agreed. there was a reason why SP yuri had spacebars kitted like that: there were enough alpha options as well as accent options to where you needed to support spacebars of all colors. here it doesn't seem to be the case, as if you go skiidata themed there will be no other white accents
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:30:59
- The R1 1u Del in the numpad kit is a duplicate of the R1 1u Del from the base kit, since this set doesn't use R0. Afaik, it isn't useful for standalone numpads either. As such, it can be removed from the numpad kit.
- The `¬¦ key in the ISO UK kit has a sublegend, but 4$€ and AltGr keys aren't included. In order to stay consistent, I suggest either removing the ¦ sublegend, or adding 4$€ and AltGr keys.
- An extra B somewhere (either in alphas or spacekeys) would indeed be a nice addition, as someone already mentioned. You could include it in alphas instead of the R2 1u \| key, which I don't see any use for.
- You may want to include Minivan support in the 40s kit.
- Re my previous comment about the 1.75u key in the spacekeys kit: since there are already 1.75u novelty spaces in the 40s kit, the blank 1.75u key doesn't need to be moved from spacekeys to 40s — instead, it can straight up be deleted from the spacekeys kit.
- Two 2u spaces are much more common than two 1.75u spaces on 40% boards. There are lots of popular boards that support 2×2u (Planck, Preonic, Boardwalk, Iris, Levinson...) versus just two for 2×1.75u (JD40, JD45). I recommend replacing the second 1.75u novelty space with a second 2u novelty space.
Post by: Yehuo. on Tue, 07 July 2020, 19:42:07
Post by: Sunhwan Jeong on Tue, 07 July 2020, 19:51:51
Post by: super7manki on Tue, 07 July 2020, 21:24:47
So what was with the decision to change the entire bottom row? It almost makes every other kit before this unusable..??!!I second this, if there is not much issue from R4 bottom row I'd rather recommend to have it match with the 2nd round
Post by: lordkingdilbo on Wed, 08 July 2020, 01:03:45
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Post by: riterdando on Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:59:31
Right?
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:37:01
Important Info
The colors will stay the same.
However if someone wants to mix R2 with R3, when one should be aware of possible shade differences which might happen - because SPs plastic supplier is notorious for inconsistency from batch to batch. As example see SP SA Strong Spirit, which was made from different plastic batches and has noticeable shade differences. As another example my alphas from Carbon R1 and R2 differ slightly in shade too. Because of this i specifically pointed out for Yuri to make it from one single plastic batch and did not introduced glorious keys for other existing SP SA sets.
So it should be avoided to mix keys from R2 and R3 with the same base color. For example mixing R2 mods with R3 mods. But things like mixing Alphas/Dual Alphas from R3 with Mods from R2 should work just fine. Anyway i highly suggest for someone who is missing a kit from R2 to search for it on mechmarket. AFAIK finding most of the R2 kits on mechmarket should not be a problem.
So what was with the decision to change the entire bottom row? It almost makes every other kit before this unusable..??!!
R3 bottom row is more versatile and thus some kits require less keys (Novelties for example). You can still utilize Carbon R3 kits with Carbon R2 to some degree. Every Round has different features see for example GMK Carbon R2 which had R0 and R5 - compared to GMK Carbon R1. And i might and most probably will change things in my future projects.
No ergo kit?
So sad about the lack of ergo support.
Unfortunately the Ergo kits don't do well lately so i decided to skip it.
rolling bone plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
+1 for rolling bones which I think would have more demand than warning signs
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Rolling bones belongs to Bone/Boneyard and they need their own GB. Otherwise the amount of kits will blow up which is not good from my experience.
This group buy is for Carbon only.
ok possibly just me, but there's SA relegendable keycaps (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/sa-1-space-relegendables-pack-of-10/)
and nothing says skidata like relegendables
I will look into it.
Awesome! I was just about to make a search to buy these second hand. Any plans on bringing back the Half-Life Lambda Kit?
Most probably but only for row 1 and 3.
Post by: Natedog351 on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:59:07
Post by: Gimbal on Thu, 09 July 2020, 06:30:28
Post by: Sabin on Thu, 09 July 2020, 07:56:15
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 09 July 2020, 14:20:37
- removed R2 1u |\ key
- added second B for Alice like layouts (since those become more and more popular)
- changed R4 1u |\ iso filler key from desktop to terminal style ><
(https://i.imgur.com/NU9e7ds.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IfZ3VPS.png)
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ISO UK
- added AltGr keys
- added $4€ key
(https://i.imgur.com/frnZaqY.png)
Half-Life
- introduction
(https://i.imgur.com/KCaTIlX.png)
Spacekeys
- add whole range of available key sizes which should allow to utilize spacekeys for various exotic layouts like minila
- Spacekeys are now available also in beige color
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Post by: mimalik on Thu, 09 July 2020, 14:21:27
Post by: jmg123 on Thu, 09 July 2020, 14:46:03
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 09 July 2020, 15:14:08
Post by: parablol on Thu, 09 July 2020, 20:14:01
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 10 July 2020, 00:37:39
Iso is missing the R4 |\ key.
Will add in the next update and remove terminal filler from the alphas.
Wish there was a way to get 2x 2u space keys without having to buy 2x 40s kits or 2x Spacekeys kits.
I will look into that.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 10 July 2020, 09:28:26
- Moved rest of ISO alphas to ISO UK kit
(https://i.imgur.com/xrOsUaD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ctzcA5o.png)
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ISO UK
- Moved rest of ISO alphas to ISO UK kit
- ALT GR keys rows has been corrected
(https://i.imgur.com/AxgsLZL.png)
Numpad
- Removed obsolete R1 1u Del key (its already available in base kit)
(https://i.imgur.com/dB4wRxA.png)
40%
- Added second R3 2u graphene key
- Added R3 1u "' key
(https://i.imgur.com/RYnfJnA.png)
Spacekeys
- Reduced spacekeys to the most used common keys (i went overboard previously which would make the keys too expensive)
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Post by: Gimbal on Fri, 10 July 2020, 10:16:54
Post by: tectonicplate on Fri, 10 July 2020, 10:59:27
Post by: source on Fri, 10 July 2020, 15:17:29
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 10 July 2020, 15:22:23
Sad to see no umka mods. Any chance of having those in the Bone/Boneyard gb?When Bone/Boneyard SP SA happens, i will look into it. From first sight that might be doable.
Post by: source on Fri, 10 July 2020, 15:28:15
Thanks! :thumb:Sad to see no umka mods. Any chance of having those in the Bone/Boneyard gb?When Bone/Boneyard SP SA happens, i will look into it. From first sight that might be doable.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 10 July 2020, 16:24:08
Sad to see no umka mods. Any chance of having those in the Bone/Boneyard gb?When Bone/Boneyard SP SA happens, i will look into it. From first sight that might be doable.
+1 for SA Umka
Will keep quiet about skull backspace nov until then. That's hard for me.
Post by: WorldExclusive on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:29:01
Post by: rowie on Mon, 13 July 2020, 18:46:22
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:12:58
So exciting! Anyone know if SA Oblivion monochrome mods will work with Carbon bone? I wasn’t able to get the bone extra mods kit but Instead I’ve managed to get three kits of rolling bones from all the keycap recap throughout the years. :)) Still, it’s nice to know T0mb3ry is considering an SA Boneyard drop in the future so maybe in the end I’ll get to expand my bone TKL mods for other layouts someday. For now my only option is SA Oblivion, and I’ve heard the grey is the same as Carbon but not the white, not sure if it is noticeable if I take a few caps here and there and mix it with my TKL bone mods to be able to use it in say a tsangan layout.
I’ve seen the GMK equivalent and I think your ideas got legs. The bone vs white is noticeable if you look for it but the gestalt works.
Post by: rowie on Mon, 13 July 2020, 20:52:15
I’ve seen the GMK equivalent and I think your ideas got legs. The bone vs white is noticeable if you look for it but the gestalt works.
That’s good to know. I just need a smaller shift key and some 1u fn keys and the rest I can cover with rolling bones clover and spade for the 1.5u mods. Sounds good. I’ll keep watch of this thread since I find T0mb3ry drops fascinating as usual.
Post by: rowie on Mon, 13 July 2020, 21:04:57
I’ll just leave this here. The good old times. I need to use my Carbon in my new recent board.
Post by: ifohancroft on Tue, 14 July 2020, 01:18:00
P.S. Love the fact that this time you are going for 343211 as opposed to 443211.
P.P.S. SP SA forever!
P.P.P.S. SA Carbon forever! (I've tried to design the perfect keycap set for me and I just can't come up with anything I like more than SA Carbon)
Post by: consumer on Tue, 14 July 2020, 08:29:12
I'd love an ErgoDox kit. I am still trying to collect a full set from SA Carbon R2 and I have a feeling it may be hard to find the ErgoDox kits so having it in the R3 would be great for me. I may end up making a mishmash of R2 and R3 for the kits that are the same.I second support for ErgoDox
P.S. Love the fact that this time you are going for 343211 as opposed to 443211.
P.P.S. SP SA forever!
P.P.P.S. SA Carbon forever! (I've tried to design the perfect keycap set for me and I just can't come up with anything I like more than SA Carbon)
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Post by: ChrisJoy on Thu, 16 July 2020, 02:53:10
Post by: gnhuy91 on Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:15:59
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:22:50
how about Carbonski dual alphas?
Too many options (there are already three alphas available) would lower the chance of hitting higher MOQs thus i'd like to keep amount of kits as low as possible.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:45:47
I did not mentioned before probably. The deskmats will be available in November in following stores:
- EU: Oblotzky Industries (https://oblotzky.industries)
- NA: NovelKeys (https://novelkeys.xyz)
- Added Toxic Skull deskmat
(https://i.imgur.com/to4to7V.png)
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:32:43
Post by: desipalen on Tue, 21 July 2020, 13:00:06
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No ergo kit?So sad about the lack of ergo support.
Unfortunately the Ergo kits don't do well lately so i decided to skip it.
I'd love an ErgoDox kit. I am still trying to collect a full set from SA Carbon R2 and I have a feeling it may be hard to find the ErgoDox kits so having it in the R3 would be great for me. I may end up making a mishmash of R2 and R3 for the kits that are the same.I second support for ErgoDox
P.S. Love the fact that this time you are going for 343211 as opposed to 443211.
P.P.S. SP SA forever!
P.P.P.S. SA Carbon forever! (I've tried to design the perfect keycap set for me and I just can't come up with anything I like more than SA Carbon)
Throwing my hat in for the Ergo support. Really wish they'd do better. Been so many GBs that we just miss out on b/c of the lack of support. Had to switch to a 40% to get any love and still don't see a lot of love there.
Post by: MdotMaxson on Thu, 23 July 2020, 10:31:40
Post by: nasp on Sat, 25 July 2020, 15:10:54
On a serious note, have you considered adding 3u bars to the spacebar kits? Please and thank you :pray:
Post by: gaustin on Sat, 25 July 2020, 16:43:43
Post by: rowie on Sat, 25 July 2020, 17:21:46
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Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 25 July 2020, 18:44:02
I bought the blacksimon iso 1 key macropad solely for rolling bones iso enter
Post by: ifohancroft on Sat, 25 July 2020, 18:55:55
I have this Hammer SA Carbon Artisan but in the Row 3 version.
Post by: yqliang on Sat, 25 July 2020, 19:39:42
Post by: swyte on Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:01:23
Post by: aWarmWalrus on Mon, 03 August 2020, 12:37:40
I'd love an ErgoDox kit. I am still trying to collect a full set from SA Carbon R2 and I have a feeling it may be hard to find the ErgoDox kits so having it in the R3 would be great for me. I may end up making a mishmash of R2 and R3 for the kits that are the same.I second support for ErgoDox
P.S. Love the fact that this time you are going for 343211 as opposed to 443211.
P.P.S. SP SA forever!
P.P.P.S. SA Carbon forever! (I've tried to design the perfect keycap set for me and I just can't come up with anything I like more than SA Carbon)
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I THIRD support for Ergodox. especially after seeing that picture of Rowie's ergo with Carbon--it just looks so sweet.
Post by: ChrisJoy on Wed, 05 August 2020, 01:31:56
Post by: darthcapn on Wed, 05 August 2020, 01:47:10
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Post by: violeaf on Wed, 05 August 2020, 03:27:47
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 05 August 2020, 03:49:11
Hi T0mb3ry, is there a back story for the set? I've checked the GMK and R2 posts on GH and can't seem to see any. It's been such an iconic set, just quite curious about your inspiration / origin of the design ;DThere is no real back story for Carbon theme. I used the color scheme back in the days in Need for Speed games from the point where NFS introduced matte paints. So the color scheme was first there. The inspiration for theme "Carbon" (chemical element) came from sets like Granite or Graphite which is in my opinion have an elegant theme instead of lifting a theme from existing franchise (movies, games or whatever). The set has nothing to do with Half Life game but I introduced the Lambda because there was a request by some users in the very first interest check for Half Life lambda.
Post by: violeaf on Wed, 05 August 2020, 05:16:06
There is no real back story for Carbon theme. I used the color scheme back in the days in Need for Speed games from the point where NFS introduced matte paints. So the color scheme was first there. The inspiration for theme "Carbon" (chemical element) came from sets like Granite or Graphite which is in my opinion have an elegant theme instead of lifting a theme from existing franchise (movies, games or whatever). The set has nothing to do with Half Life game but I introduced the Lambda because there was a request by some users in the very first interest check for Half Life lambda.
Very interesting, love that it's more complex than just copying something existing
Post by: harlekein on Wed, 05 August 2020, 08:58:51
Hi T0mb3ry, is there a back story for the set? I've checked the GMK and R2 posts on GH and can't seem to see any. It's been such an iconic set, just quite curious about your inspiration / origin of the design ;D
You don't need an origin story. It's not a superhero. It's keycaps.
Post by: Vizir on Wed, 05 August 2020, 09:21:31
How do you know? Maybe it's parents died and now this set has sworn to protect other innocent sets from aftermarket price gougers?!Hi T0mb3ry, is there a back story for the set? I've checked the GMK and R2 posts on GH and can't seem to see any. It's been such an iconic set, just quite curious about your inspiration / origin of the design ;D
You don't need an origin story. It's not a superhero. It's keycaps.
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Post by: violeaf on Wed, 05 August 2020, 10:14:18
Hi T0mb3ry, is there a back story for the set? I've checked the GMK and R2 posts on GH and can't seem to see any. It's been such an iconic set, just quite curious about your inspiration / origin of the design ;D
You don't need an origin story. It's not a superhero. It's keycaps.
No you don't need one, but it's a nice thought
Frankly you don't NEED most things in your life, what are we doing here based on needs??
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 05 August 2020, 10:16:03
Post by: carebe on Wed, 05 August 2020, 20:44:02
Post by: Gimbal on Thu, 06 August 2020, 01:22:25
Post by: mimalik on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:34:19
Post by: violeaf on Thu, 06 August 2020, 13:53:59
I know it may be a moot point and there are already too many alpha kits, but without orange alphas Carbon is not complete for me. Please reconsider, atleast SP doesnt require high moq unlike GMK. I am pretty sure if offered it will meet the moq.
Seconded
Post by: bluefacedbeast on Mon, 10 August 2020, 18:20:54
Post by: Sunhwan Jeong on Mon, 10 August 2020, 23:37:14
Hi T0mb3ry, is there a back story for the set? I've checked the GMK and R2 posts on GH and can't seem to see any. It's been such an iconic set, just quite curious about your inspiration / origin of the design ;DThere is no real back story for Carbon theme. I used the color scheme back in the days in Need for Speed games from the point where NFS introduced matte paints. So the color scheme was first there. The inspiration for theme "Carbon" (chemical element) came from sets like Granite or Graphite which is in my opinion have an elegant theme instead of lifting a theme from existing franchise (movies, games or whatever). The set has nothing to do with Half Life game but I introduced the Lambda because there was a request by some users in the very first interest check for Half Life lambda.
I always thought this LLOYD'S calculator was the inspiration for this keycap, but it's interesting to note that it was NFS :eek:
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 11 August 2020, 02:17:20
i might introduce Bones kits (mods, numpad and Rolling Bones) and probably ergodox kit.
But again that is not set in stone and is not guaranteed to happen.
I always thought this LLOYD'S calculator was the inspiration for this keycap, but it's interesting to note that it was NFS :eek:
Well NFS was not the inspiration. You are allowed in NFS to paint your car as you like. It's like saying Gimp, Paint, Photoshop or any other graphics edit Software are inspiration of each artist who use them :))
Post by: pcire on Tue, 11 August 2020, 02:30:19
I need those bones kits!
Post by: gaustin on Tue, 11 August 2020, 03:59:23
Post by: x_mister on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:06:17
Post by: solomonshv on Wed, 12 August 2020, 19:43:00
Post by: ChrisJoy on Wed, 12 August 2020, 22:56:45
Post by: ThuyPN on Thu, 13 August 2020, 08:45:32
So, can I mix enter of numpad kit r3 with modifier r2 for a fullsize keyboard? It's differences is 112344 and 112343.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 13 August 2020, 09:05:27
Post by: hiddensong on Fri, 14 August 2020, 07:09:24
Post by: Argan12345 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 10:42:44
Post by: xzaclee on Fri, 04 September 2020, 19:19:43
Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 04 September 2020, 19:20:32
when can we put our reservations down?Probably November 2020
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 05 September 2020, 09:31:18
- Added new kits
Bones Modifiers kit
(https://i.imgur.com/4ntaQCL.png)
Bones Numpad kit
(https://i.imgur.com/sq7mTz7.png)
Rolling Bones
(https://i.imgur.com/hvGLwUn.png)
Ergodox kit
(https://i.imgur.com/GaGvXvL.png)
when can we put our reservations down?Probably November 2020
Exactly. Most probably it will drop in November 2020.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 05 September 2020, 09:48:22
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 05 September 2020, 09:50:22
Post by: Capsy on Sat, 05 September 2020, 10:06:41
Post by: UggNot on Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:09:41
First let me say that i understand that this is an SA profile which will not lend itself to the flexibility of a KAT kit, but a fair amount of research has been done recently into what the key layout of an ergo KAT kit should be.
Now my notes on this ergo kit.
1. it may need some extra R3 1.5u keys. As it is, if you are a user of a boardwalk, sol, zen, mun (or a few other boards i can't think of right now), you will have to use all 4 of the R3 1.5u mods as the bottom row of those boards has 1.5u corners.
2. doesn't the alphas kit come with a 1.5u pipe/backslash key? that shouldn't have to be in this kit.
3. an r1 1.5u tilde key would be a nice addition for those of us who DON'T put escape on the top row. (I believe it is becoming more common to move it from there)
4. an r3 1.5u enter key would also be very welcome as a number of people replace the quote key with enter. and some people (like me, put enter on the bottom row)
5. an r3 1.5u function/layer key is VERY common in place of caps lock. (personally i use escape on r3 but i overload it with a layer so function works for me)
You should at least take a look at the KAT ergo guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0) put together by NoPunIn10Did. He did a lot of research on ergo layouts for that guide.
Another note is that on a number of ergo boards (that are NOT the ergodox) the center columns can be 4 1u keys instead of a 1u and 2x 1.5u vertical keys. I'd love to see that considered here, but i get it if that's just too many keys, I almost never have those columns in the right profile anyway and they vary a LOT with personal preference.
As for what would make this an ideal ergo set for ME (i use an RGBKB sol and RGBKB sol2):
* add r1 1.5u tilde key (my upper left 1.5u)
* remove r2 1.5u backslash/pipe key
* add r3 1.5u escape key (function or layer would do in a pinch)
* add r3 1.5u enter key (my bottom right corner is enter.)
* add an extra r3 1u alt key (i have 2 in my bottom row)
* add an r3 1u delete key (i have one on my bottom row)
* add an r3 blank or 2 for really bizarre layouts (my bottom row has an extra .> key which i don't expect ANY keyset to match)
and in my DREAM set, there would be an R1 1u print screen, R2 1u F5 key, R2 1u pause/break key, R3 Insert key, and R4 delete key, in addition to the notes from above.
I'm not sure about usage of the upper keys on the thumb cluster of an ergodox as i haven't used one, but is it common for the thumb clusters to BOTH have ctrl and alt? Also, does the top row of those clusters need to be R2? If it was R3 there would be a lot more flexibility in the kit.
If you've read this far I'd also like to say that since before i got my first keyset, SA Carbon has been one of the sets that interested me the most, and i've always particularly liked how it looks on ergo boards.
Thanks for reading my ramblings.
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:15:48
Post by: blutoin on Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:57:26
Post by: gaustin on Sat, 05 September 2020, 17:43:09
Post by: Preußens Gloria on Sat, 05 September 2020, 19:43:34
(https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/d9fdaede041a1d9485ba7846478fda9554903b42/212ec/images/kits/norde.png)
I understand you are apprehensive because of the history of NorDe and ISO kits not hitting MOQ. I ask because SA Skywriter had a smaller following than SA Carbon, yet this kit hit MOQ naturally. This kit drops the tertiary legends many international layouts have for a smaller, cheaper kit. I think this strikes a good balance between providing international support and making a kit that can reasonably be expected to hit MOQ.
I also happen to think losing tertiary legends is more aesthetically pleasing on SA keycaps. They are too cluttered otherwise. :)
Credit to cijanzen for the kit. I claim no ownership, but I love your work!
Post by: pcire on Sun, 06 September 2020, 01:58:51
Post by: Gimbal on Sun, 06 September 2020, 04:41:05
Could you consider adding a NorDe kit similar to the one offered in SA Skywriter?Show Image(https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/d9fdaede041a1d9485ba7846478fda9554903b42/212ec/images/kits/norde.png)
I understand you are apprehensive because of the history of NorDe and ISO kits not hitting MOQ. I ask because SA Skywriter had a smaller following than SA Carbon, yet this kit hit MOQ naturally. This kit drops the tertiary legends many international layouts have for a smaller, cheaper kit. I think this strikes a good balance between providing international support and making a kit that can reasonably be expected to hit MOQ.
I also happen to think losing tertiary legends is more aesthetically pleasing on SA keycaps. They are too cluttered otherwise. :)
Credit to cijanzen for the kit. I claim no ownership, but I love your work!
Yes pretty PLEASE!
Especially now that the bone modifiers are in.
Light Alphas and Bone modifiers in SA are on top of my most wanted kits list. But I do need the Norde kit for a complete keyboard. It would be beautiful.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 06 September 2020, 10:43:50
Some comments on the ergo kit.
First let me say that i understand that this is an SA profile which will not lend itself to the flexibility of a KAT kit, but a fair amount of research has been done recently into what the key layout of an ergo KAT kit should be.
Now my notes on this ergo kit.
1. it may need some extra R3 1.5u keys. As it is, if you are a user of a boardwalk, sol, zen, mun (or a few other boards i can't think of right now), you will have to use all 4 of the R3 1.5u mods as the bottom row of those boards has 1.5u corners.
2. doesn't the alphas kit come with a 1.5u pipe/backslash key? that shouldn't have to be in this kit.
3. an r1 1.5u tilde key would be a nice addition for those of us who DON'T put escape on the top row. (I believe it is becoming more common to move it from there)
4. an r3 1.5u enter key would also be very welcome as a number of people replace the quote key with enter. and some people (like me, put enter on the bottom row)
5. an r3 1.5u function/layer key is VERY common in place of caps lock. (personally i use escape on r3 but i overload it with a layer so function works for me)
You should at least take a look at the KAT ergo guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0) put together by NoPunIn10Did. He did a lot of research on ergo layouts for that guide.
Another note is that on a number of ergo boards (that are NOT the ergodox) the center columns can be 4 1u keys instead of a 1u and 2x 1.5u vertical keys. I'd love to see that considered here, but i get it if that's just too many keys, I almost never have those columns in the right profile anyway and they vary a LOT with personal preference.
As for what would make this an ideal ergo set for ME (i use an RGBKB sol and RGBKB sol2):
* add r1 1.5u tilde key (my upper left 1.5u)
* remove r2 1.5u backslash/pipe key
* add r3 1.5u escape key (function or layer would do in a pinch)
* add r3 1.5u enter key (my bottom right corner is enter.)
* add an extra r3 1u alt key (i have 2 in my bottom row)
* add an r3 1u delete key (i have one on my bottom row)
* add an r3 blank or 2 for really bizarre layouts (my bottom row has an extra .> key which i don't expect ANY keyset to match)
and in my DREAM set, there would be an R1 1u print screen, R2 1u F5 key, R2 1u pause/break key, R3 Insert key, and R4 delete key, in addition to the notes from above.
I'm not sure about usage of the upper keys on the thumb cluster of an ergodox as i haven't used one, but is it common for the thumb clusters to BOTH have ctrl and alt? Also, does the top row of those clusters need to be R2? If it was R3 there would be a lot more flexibility in the kit.
If you've read this far I'd also like to say that since before i got my first keyset, SA Carbon has been one of the sets that interested me the most, and i've always particularly liked how it looks on ergo boards.
Thanks for reading my ramblings.
I will replace the R2 1.5u |\ key with {[ .
For all other points i can not support that. If everyone starts to come with their special layout then its a never ending story. I can only support the default layout (from Infinity Ergodox) with little bit variations which are already included. As alternative you can always use keys from Novelties or Rolling Bones as any key.
Post by: violeaf on Sun, 06 September 2020, 11:01:29
Post by: UggNot on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:05:54
Some comments on the ergo kit.
[...]
I will replace the R2 1.5u |\ key with {[ .
For all other points i can not support that. If everyone starts to come with their special layout then its a never ending story. I can only support the default layout (from Infinity Ergodox) with little bit variations which are already included. As alternative you can always use keys from Novelties or Rolling Bones as any key.
This is fair, the only other consideration I would ask for with this in mind is an R1 1.5u novelty or blank In one of the sets. R1 is the only row I can’t get an alternative to the legends provided. Alternately include the tilde character as 1.5u in that top row
Post by: MKUltraCorp on Sun, 06 September 2020, 13:50:37
Some comments on the ergo kit.
First let me say that i understand that this is an SA profile which will not lend itself to the flexibility of a KAT kit, but a fair amount of research has been done recently into what the key layout of an ergo KAT kit should be.
Now my notes on this ergo kit.
1. it may need some extra R3 1.5u keys. As it is, if you are a user of a boardwalk, sol, zen, mun (or a few other boards i can't think of right now), you will have to use all 4 of the R3 1.5u mods as the bottom row of those boards has 1.5u corners.
2. doesn't the alphas kit come with a 1.5u pipe/backslash key? that shouldn't have to be in this kit.
3. an r1 1.5u tilde key would be a nice addition for those of us who DON'T put escape on the top row. (I believe it is becoming more common to move it from there)
4. an r3 1.5u enter key would also be very welcome as a number of people replace the quote key with enter. and some people (like me, put enter on the bottom row)
5. an r3 1.5u function/layer key is VERY common in place of caps lock. (personally i use escape on r3 but i overload it with a layer so function works for me)
You should at least take a look at the KAT ergo guide (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0) put together by NoPunIn10Did. He did a lot of research on ergo layouts for that guide.
Another note is that on a number of ergo boards (that are NOT the ergodox) the center columns can be 4 1u keys instead of a 1u and 2x 1.5u vertical keys. I'd love to see that considered here, but i get it if that's just too many keys, I almost never have those columns in the right profile anyway and they vary a LOT with personal preference.
As for what would make this an ideal ergo set for ME (i use an RGBKB sol and RGBKB sol2):
* add r1 1.5u tilde key (my upper left 1.5u)
* remove r2 1.5u backslash/pipe key
* add r3 1.5u escape key (function or layer would do in a pinch)
* add r3 1.5u enter key (my bottom right corner is enter.)
* add an extra r3 1u alt key (i have 2 in my bottom row)
* add an r3 1u delete key (i have one on my bottom row)
* add an r3 blank or 2 for really bizarre layouts (my bottom row has an extra .> key which i don't expect ANY keyset to match)
and in my DREAM set, there would be an R1 1u print screen, R2 1u F5 key, R2 1u pause/break key, R3 Insert key, and R4 delete key, in addition to the notes from above.
I'm not sure about usage of the upper keys on the thumb cluster of an ergodox as i haven't used one, but is it common for the thumb clusters to BOTH have ctrl and alt? Also, does the top row of those clusters need to be R2? If it was R3 there would be a lot more flexibility in the kit.
If you've read this far I'd also like to say that since before i got my first keyset, SA Carbon has been one of the sets that interested me the most, and i've always particularly liked how it looks on ergo boards.
Thanks for reading my ramblings.
I will replace the R2 1.5u |\ key with {[ .
For all other points i can not support that. If everyone starts to come with their special layout then its a never ending story. I can only support the default layout (from Infinity Ergodox) with little bit variations which are already included. As alternative you can always use keys from Novelties or Rolling Bones as any key.
I fully support all of Uggnot's thorough explanation of why the 'classic' ergo kit is no longer viable in today's ergo environment. Ergodox is no longer the primary target for ergo kits - keyboards like Boardwalk (over 500 sold w/another 600 on order), upcoming Boardrun (400 PCBs on order), Sol/Zen/Pan/Mun (hundreds sold) are your primary customers for these kits. Do some polling or, reference polls that have already been done by others.
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If designers continue to ignore this quickly growing subset of the community, they will be (and have been) forced to make their own versions to fill the void. Nobody owns colors.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:30:19
Ergodox kit
- Replaced legends on R2 1.5u from |\ to {[
(https://i.imgur.com/vKnrXST.png)
ISO UK
- Added Bones compatibility keys
(https://i.imgur.com/1vd6LBJ.png)
Post by: LXVRGS on Sun, 06 September 2020, 18:18:19
If designers continue to ignore this quickly growing subset of the community, they will be (and have been) forced to make their own versions to fill the void. Nobody owns colors.
thinly veiled threats of ripping off peoples work is an interesting business tactic, dont you need to be catching up on orders or something.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:06:37
Post by: Vizir on Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:29:17
@Tomb3ry thank you for adding and then modifying the ergo set when Uggnot posted some suggestions. If you take anything away from mkultra's post, let it be that ergo layout is now outdated since a lot more ergo keebs are out which need a few extra keycaps. He is just telling you that there are LOTS of these users out there and there is a void in the offering. He is merely warning you to not let someone else take this as an opportunity.
KAT designers have enthusiastically started supporting these layouts. And if you check, even Matt3o added support for them with the last run of mt3 /dev/tty. You can also look at the sales numbers of various KAT kits as a reference.
Do not let some toxic members derail the conversation here.
Thanks!
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Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 07 September 2020, 06:26:11
UpdateCan you add an extra R2 TAB in the modifier kit? The modifier kit can support TKL and HHKB layout which could be a plus for users who use both layout or for those looking to split it to their friends.
- Added new kits
Bones Modifiers kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/4ntaQCL.png)
Bones Numpad kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/sq7mTz7.png)
Rolling BonesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/hvGLwUn.png)
Ergodox kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/GaGvXvL.png)when can we put our reservations down?Probably November 2020
Exactly. Most probably it will drop in November 2020.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 07 September 2020, 06:40:25
Maybe in some sort of extra kit. Otherwise people will be forced to buy two tab keys and that will rise many questions during GB.UpdateCan you add an extra R2 TAB in the modifier kit? The modifier kit can support TKL and HHKB layout which could be a plus for users who use both layout or for those looking to split it to their friends.
- Added new kits
Bones Modifiers kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/4ntaQCL.png)
Bones Numpad kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/sq7mTz7.png)
Rolling BonesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/hvGLwUn.png)
Ergodox kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/GaGvXvL.png)when can we put our reservations down?Probably November 2020
Exactly. Most probably it will drop in November 2020.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 07 September 2020, 10:48:20
Ergodox kit
has been changed to assembly style which is more versatile and cost effective.
(https://i.imgur.com/x6Eht4W.png)
Post by: Vizir on Mon, 07 September 2020, 10:53:41
UpdateThis makes a lot of layouts a lot easier!
Ergodox kit
has been changed to assembly style which is more versatile and cost effective.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/x6Eht4W.png)
Can you please add 2x 1.5u R3 for the bottom row outermost columns? Oblotzkys oblivion set had the same issue.
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 07 September 2020, 10:55:12
Yeah I thought about it already and will look into it.UpdateThis makes a lot of layouts a lot easier!
Ergodox kit
has been changed to assembly style which is more versatile and cost effective.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/x6Eht4W.png)
Can you please add 2x 1.5u R3 for the bottom row outermost columns? Oblotzkys oblivion set had the same issue.
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Post by: konstantin on Mon, 07 September 2020, 11:48:03
Maybe in some sort of extra kit. Otherwise people will be forced to buy two tab keys and that will rise many questions during GB.
An extras kit like in GMK Yuri R2 would be nice to see.
Post by: MKUltraCorp on Mon, 07 September 2020, 13:03:33
Update
Ergodox kit
has been changed to assembly style which is more versatile and cost effective.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/x6Eht4W.png)
This solution solves a lot of issues, thank you for looking into it and making adjustments - a lot of ergo customers will be happy to see this flexibility.
The only thing it could use are those bottom row R3 1.5u keys as well as some solution for middle column 1u keys. Not everyone uses vertical 1.5u on their middle columns and some ergo boards flat out don't support it - hotswap Boardwalk (releasing this week) is 1u only for example, as well as others.
I appreciate you taking the time to dig into a layout I'm guessing you don't use and have to rely on feedback to get right. We just want to make sure designers are aware that the ergo landscape is and has been changing, and the old 'classic' layout is no longer sufficient to meet the needs of current trends and usage. What you do with that information is up to you, so thank you for listening.
Post by: jmg123 on Mon, 07 September 2020, 14:36:52
Update
Ergodox kit
- Replaced legends on R2 1.5u from |\ to {[Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vKnrXST.png)
ISO UK
- Added Bones compatibility keysShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1vd6LBJ.png)
Thank you for the proper uk ISO support (my wallet does not thank you, as now I will be forcing it to pay for bones as well)
Post by: nhtrung0607 on Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:28:30
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 09 September 2020, 12:18:50
GB will probably happen in October
Basically next month.
Bones Modifiers kit
- Added three bones alpha accents. Since Bones modifiers has less keys than other two modifier kits, this will make its pricing more even.
(https://i.imgur.com/cRnq1P3.png)
Ergodox kit
- Added two 1.5u R3 LOOP keys.
(https://i.imgur.com/pLUq5f2.png)
Xtra kit
- Introduction
(https://i.imgur.com/jLOW4MD.png)
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 09 September 2020, 14:32:41
Xtra kit
- IntroductionShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/jLOW4MD.png)
Lovely, thanks!
Post by: nethowler on Wed, 09 September 2020, 16:51:38
Post by: nhtrung0607 on Wed, 09 September 2020, 22:55:47
Update
GB will probably happen in October
Basically next month.
Bones Modifiers kit
- Added three bones alpha accents. Since Bones modifiers has less keys than other two modifier kits, this will make its pricing more even.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cRnq1P3.png)
Ergodox kit
- Added two 1.5u R3 LOOP keys.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pLUq5f2.png)
Xtra kit
- IntroductionShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/jLOW4MD.png)
Thanks alot for the extra kit. Can't wait for the GB.
Post by: Gimbal on Thu, 10 September 2020, 02:55:11
I promise, this is the last time I ask for it. :-X
Post by: aterix on Thu, 17 September 2020, 11:55:01
I honestly can't find a better looking set of caps.
Post by: smoochara on Fri, 18 September 2020, 10:24:25
Anyone with experience from R1/R2 has any input on best case color pairing with this set?
I got black keeb so far but will be expanding in the future. White would be another safe choice I guess, and orange could work but could be weird if not color matched to caps well. Any other case colors that really pop with this?
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 18 September 2020, 10:34:12
We are looking right now for the optimal pricing. Thus the kits are finalized and there will be no changed unless we'll encounter some errors in the kit constellation.
As i said previously the GB will happen during this October.
Post by: aterix on Fri, 18 September 2020, 11:05:38
Looking forward to finally using these timeless classics.
Post by: ChrisJoy on Fri, 18 September 2020, 20:37:52
Wooo! Go T0mb3ry!Great! Look forward to it badly!!!
Looking forward to finally using these timeless classics.
Post by: aterix on Sat, 19 September 2020, 08:35:37
Update
- Added new kits
Bones Modifiers kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/4ntaQCL.png)
Bones Numpad kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/sq7mTz7.png)
Rolling BonesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/hvGLwUn.png)
Ergodox kitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/GaGvXvL.png)when can we put our reservations down?Probably November 2020
Exactly. Most probably it will drop in November 2020.
Would you ever consider making these in a low profile cap format?
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 19 September 2020, 09:46:21
Would you ever consider making these in a low profile cap format?
I am only interested in Cherry profile made by GMK. Someday there will be another round for GMK Carbon. I don't have interest for other profiles.
Post by: BachNgocLaoHo on Mon, 21 September 2020, 01:07:38
Would you ever consider making these in a low profile cap format?
I am only interested in Cherry profile made by GMK. Someday there will be another round for GMK Carbon. I don't have interest for other profiles.
I really really love SA SP Carbon from you - Mr T0mb3ry. Currently, I am collecting a full set of Carbon round 2, which is missing flex kit and number row kit. I see that round 3 does not include these two kits. Can you review and add these two kits, I am willing to pay for that, everyone will agree with me on this !! plz
Post by: aterix on Mon, 21 September 2020, 09:10:46
Personally, the sets he is making fill much more than my needs.
What is specifically missing that you need, or do you just want to have more keys in your key museum?
Post by: BachNgocLaoHo on Mon, 21 September 2020, 20:53:51
T0mb3ry has explained why he's not doing a full set.I really like to put the kits together. This will create visual effects - the inspiration at work for me.
Personally, the sets he is making fill much more than my needs.
What is specifically missing that you need, or do you just want to have more keys in your key museum?
Post by: Vizir on Tue, 22 September 2020, 00:40:39
T0mb3ry has explained why he's not doing a full set.I really like to put the kits together. This will create visual effects - the inspiration at work for me.
Personally, the sets he is making fill much more than my needs.
What is specifically missing that you need, or do you just want to have more keys in your key museum?
I can't claim to understand genius or inspiration but that makes little sense here in business terms. Not that I want to belittle you, perhaps you are looking for inspiration in the wrong area.
Or, perhaps, you might want to explain in other words? I can see that english isn't your native tongue...
Post by: BachNgocLaoHo on Tue, 22 September 2020, 01:33:45
Yes, my english is not good, can not to explain clearly what i mean. But SA Carbon always is my favourite keyset. I like to collect all kits possibly, then mix them, waiting to look at them when going to office. :)T0mb3ry has explained why he's not doing a full set.I really like to put the kits together. This will create visual effects - the inspiration at work for me.
Personally, the sets he is making fill much more than my needs.
What is specifically missing that you need, or do you just want to have more keys in your key museum?
I can't claim to understand genius or inspiration but that makes little sense here in business terms. Not that I want to belittle you, perhaps you are looking for inspiration in the wrong area.
Or, perhaps, you might want to explain in other words? I can see that english isn't your native tongue...
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 22 September 2020, 01:35:35
I really really love SA SP Carbon from you - Mr T0mb3ry. Currently, I am collecting a full set of Carbon round 2, which is missing flex kit and number row kit. I see that round 3 does not include these two kits. Can you review and add these two kits, I am willing to pay for that, everyone will agree with me on this !! plz
Hello,
this IC is open since July and there was plenty of time to make suggestions. Right now the kits are final and will stay as they are. We requested already the quotes and are preparing for the gb.
Also as i understand you want that kit in order to complete your R2 Carbon and thus i like to quote myself where i explain - why its better to get original R2 kits.
Important Info
The colors will stay the same.
However if someone wants to mix R2 with R3, when one should be aware of possible shade differences which might happen - because SPs plastic supplier is notorious for inconsistency from batch to batch. As example see SP SA Strong Spirit, which was made from different plastic batches and has noticeable shade differences. As another example my alphas from Carbon R1 and R2 differ slightly in shade too. Because of this i specifically pointed out for Yuri to make it from one single plastic batch and did not introduced glorious keys for other existing SP SA sets.
So it should be avoided to mix keys from R2 and R3 with the same base color. For example mixing R2 mods with R3 mods. But things like mixing Alphas/Dual Alphas from R3 with Mods from R2 should work just fine. Anyway i highly suggest for someone who is missing a kit from R2 to search for it on mechmarket. AFAIK finding most of the R2 kits on mechmarket should not be a problem.
Post by: BachNgocLaoHo on Tue, 22 September 2020, 03:58:33
Thank you Sir!I really really love SA SP Carbon from you - Mr T0mb3ry. Currently, I am collecting a full set of Carbon round 2, which is missing flex kit and number row kit. I see that round 3 does not include these two kits. Can you review and add these two kits, I am willing to pay for that, everyone will agree with me on this !! plz
Hello,
this IC is open since July and there was plenty of time to make suggestions. Right now the kits are final and will stay as they are. We requested already the quotes and are preparing for the gb.
Also as i understand you want that kit in order to complete your R2 Carbon and thus i like to quote myself where i explain - why its better to get original R2 kits.Important Info
The colors will stay the same.
However if someone wants to mix R2 with R3, when one should be aware of possible shade differences which might happen - because SPs plastic supplier is notorious for inconsistency from batch to batch. As example see SP SA Strong Spirit, which was made from different plastic batches and has noticeable shade differences. As another example my alphas from Carbon R1 and R2 differ slightly in shade too. Because of this i specifically pointed out for Yuri to make it from one single plastic batch and did not introduced glorious keys for other existing SP SA sets.
So it should be avoided to mix keys from R2 and R3 with the same base color. For example mixing R2 mods with R3 mods. But things like mixing Alphas/Dual Alphas from R3 with Mods from R2 should work just fine. Anyway i highly suggest for someone who is missing a kit from R2 to search for it on mechmarket. AFAIK finding most of the R2 kits on mechmarket should not be a problem.
Post by: hammerbrotha on Tue, 22 September 2020, 19:41:30
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Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 22 September 2020, 20:33:43
Any chance you would do KAT Carbon in the future? Would love to see that.
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No.
Would you ever consider making these in a low profile cap format?
I am only interested in Cherry profile made by GMK. Someday there will be another round for GMK Carbon. I don't have interest for other profiles.
Post by: vulk on Mon, 28 September 2020, 18:14:47
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 29 September 2020, 06:48:51
Just got the first samples for deskmats. I am not quite happy with them and there are points to fix but here is a first preview.
Toxic
unfortunately i can't catch the green color properly with my camera so take the photos with a grain of salt (as you should always do with photos and even renders)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50396665833_e671cbc433_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50397516217_90902a8e21_k.jpg)
note: the green of the skull is very close in color to the bot but it don't know why my camera struggles to catch the color...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50396670293_eaf90c2dbb_k.jpg)
Beezarre
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50396672043_9fccdd44f1_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50397522672_adc47359b4_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50397349386_15693a9291_k.jpg)
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 29 September 2020, 07:38:57
Post by: nasp on Tue, 29 September 2020, 16:04:31
SA Toxic when?! :D
Post by: William_S_Jones on Wed, 30 September 2020, 18:43:13
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Post by: William_S_Jones on Wed, 30 September 2020, 18:44:36
Sooooooo...I’d rather have DSA toxic; please....
SA Toxic when?! :D
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 01 October 2020, 13:30:50
The GB page is up.
SP SA Carbon R3 (https://drop.com/buy/carbon?mode=guest_open)
I'll make an GB thread and once its confirmed i will close this ic thread here.
Post by: William_S_Jones on Thu, 01 October 2020, 13:52:32
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 01 October 2020, 15:50:09
As said before once the GB thread is approved i will close the IC thread.