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Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Twig on Mon, 05 December 2011, 18:33:49
Found it on this blog
http://watchmonoblog.blog71.fc2.com/blog-entry-1773.html (http://watchmonoblog.blog71.fc2.com/blog-entry-1773.html)

I kinda like the way the switches are exposed, maybe easily customised? as it's pcb mounted.
and everything looks nice and normal in terms of layout.

can't really find any details on it

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Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: mr626 on Mon, 05 December 2011, 18:55:51
So its basically a pcb-mount tenkeyless with no case?
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: slueth on Mon, 05 December 2011, 19:17:48
Looks like its POM keycaps?  Looks familiar to the noppoo with out a case and 10-keyless layout.:D
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Twig on Mon, 05 December 2011, 19:25:28
Quote from: mr626;464818
So its basically a pcb-mount tenkeyless with no case?


yup, and that would make it the first of it's kind, if I'm not mistaken.
Quote from: slueth;464829
Looks like its POM keycaps?  Looks familiar to the noppoo with out a case and 10-keyless layout.:D


That's what I was thinking, would be nice to see more POM out of the box. I personally prefer it over abs.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 05 December 2011, 19:32:10
It is also a wireless keyboard, working on the 2.4Ghz band
Keyboard is made by PLUM, much like how FILCOs are made by Costar
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: macro9 on Mon, 05 December 2011, 20:08:32
wireless keyboard ,  pom keycaps ,  pcb-mount tenkeyless with no case ,  the price in china will be 459  RMB , about 80 US$  , will on market this month .


http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-210649-1-1.html
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: whiskerBox on Mon, 05 December 2011, 21:08:08
Pretty cool looking board, but It obviously wouldn't be good to take around.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: spolia optima on Tue, 06 December 2011, 09:27:42
It's a board with keys on it. The quintessential keyboard.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 06 December 2011, 09:56:56
Looks like what the corsair always wanted to be, though without the aluminium.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 06 December 2011, 10:56:59
Do want!
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 06 December 2011, 11:01:23
why is there no case lulz
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: pitashen on Tue, 06 December 2011, 11:07:16
looks like it is going to transform at any given moment.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: GeorgeStorm on Tue, 06 December 2011, 11:14:40
I quite like the styling
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 December 2011, 11:54:07
Oooh wireless. I've been hoping someone besides qpad would make one eventually. Perfect for my HTPC, now where can I buy it?
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 06 December 2011, 21:33:16
Currently up for pre-order for 500RMB at taobao. That is about $80-90

http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=13817271227&prt=1323228590600&prc=1
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 06 December 2011, 21:36:36
O wow, overlooked the post where you said it was wireless.

Group buy?

or maybe just an interest check
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Gin on Tue, 06 December 2011, 21:47:40
That thing would get so much dust and stuff underneath its keys so quickly.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: pitashen on Tue, 06 December 2011, 22:05:30
na dust wise it is not easier than regular enclosures, not to mention regular enclosure trap dust and dandruff...  

liquid spill entering from the sides is more of a problem... IMO
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 December 2011, 22:29:31
Well I know what will likely be my first 2012 keyboard purchase.
Seems that is black switch only on the presale there. I hope there is some other switch choice, but even if not I will still buy it.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 07 December 2011, 04:06:15
Quote from: noodles256;465503
O wow, overlooked the post where you said it was wireless.

Group buy?

or maybe just an interest check

Get Qtan to do it, I'm sure loads of us will buy just 'cause it is wireless.

Maybe I should post more pictures.
Source is from a PcWaishe which needs you to login to view the pictures
(http://i.imgur.com/F4S0b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZQqhS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4ixlB.jpg)
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: GeorgeStorm on Wed, 07 December 2011, 07:04:23
This would be awesome for my family possibly, if anyone from the uk is going to buy one, can they let me know so we could save on shipping or whatever?
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 07 December 2011, 07:21:28
I could care less about the wireless part. But a PCB-mounted tenkeyless hasn't existed up until now. As you can easily swap switches without desoldering, do want!
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 07 December 2011, 07:59:19
hmm wonder how the battery would hold up
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: hazeluff on Wed, 07 December 2011, 09:03:17
Quote from: slueth;464829
Looks like its POM keycaps?  Looks familiar to the noppoo with out a case and 10-keyless layout.:D

First thing I thought of.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: reaper on Wed, 07 December 2011, 09:31:47
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon;465703
hmm wonder how the battery would hold up


That's exactly what I was thinking when I first read about the wireless part.  Oh well, if it isn't too expensive then I might be in for one.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 07 December 2011, 09:37:40
I posted in qtan's subforum asking if he can get these...
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 07 December 2011, 09:45:18
Quote from: keyboardlover;465773
I posted in qtan's subforum asking if he can get these...

I love the easy access to Taobao even though I live a few thousand kilometers from China.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 07 December 2011, 11:31:39
I guess I was wrong about people buying 'cause it is wireless.
Anyway, the keyboard allows 2 mode of operation. With and without wire.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 07 December 2011, 12:11:53
Quote from: kaiserreich;465869
Anyway, the keyboard allows 2 mode of operation. With and without wire.

Now I'm even more interested, since I would prefer to use it wired.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 07 December 2011, 12:33:51
http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-210649-1-1.html

Go to your favourite translator and read the review.

Keyboard uses 2x AAA batteries.
Battery life quoted by manufacturer is standby time for 60days or full usage for 70-80hours.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: slueth on Wed, 07 December 2011, 12:37:16
too bad they didn't include rechargeable batteries for it.  Probably ups the costs.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 07 December 2011, 13:13:41
Yes, a rechargeable li ion battery would have been nice, with recharge over the usb like some of the newer mice do. Oh well you can always buy rechargeable aaa battery for it.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 03:37:43
Can I just order this off TaoBao?
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Human on Thu, 22 December 2011, 09:20:16
Quote from: elton5354;475729
Can I just order this off TaoBao?

For sure you can order it, just that who suppose to ship it to you?
BTW, according to their official store(sort of), it is called NEO ZELIA instead of zeba.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13413025222
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Human on Thu, 22 December 2011, 13:46:56
Anyone mentioned about POM? BTW, they are from KBC.
(http://www39.tx8.cn/photo/xiaqoli/KBC-POM-37-GD001.JPG)
(http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i2/48882528/T2aod0XeFbXXXXXXXX_!!48882528.jpg)
(http://www39.tx8.cn/photo/xiaqoli/KBC-37POM-GD-N-003.jpg)
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 22 December 2011, 13:59:54
I like those ectoplasm / snot color caps. Do they glow in the dark? Looks like that glow in the dark color.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 23 December 2011, 08:06:33
These appear to be available on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13423377155 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13423377155)

I've asked Obook for a quote.

Edit: I ordered one!
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Human on Fri, 23 December 2011, 13:12:19
Quote from: keyboardlover;476572
These appear to be available on Taobao:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13423377155 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13423377155)

I've asked Obook for a quote.

Edit: I ordered one!

Nice [strike]guinea pig[/strike] purchase I mean. When it reach do share with us on the built quality and QC for a China Brand + China Product.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 23 December 2011, 13:30:49
Quote from: Human;476777
Nice [strike]guinea pig[/strike] purchase I mean. When it reach do share with us on the built quality and QC for a China Brand + China Product.

You bet, I plan on doing a full review.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: ignition on Fri, 30 December 2011, 00:53:51
hope nobody minds me bumping this thread, just figured i'd share my thoughts on this keyboard.

- feels pretty solid; flexes only when twisted intentionally
- keycaps have uniform lettering (so far); but some are not as textured as others
- rubber feet like the poker, so not adjustable
- doesn't come with batteries, so I have yet to play around with the wireless function
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Human on Fri, 30 December 2011, 01:36:49
Quote from: ignition;480045
hope nobody minds me bumping this thread, just figured i'd share my thoughts on this keyboard.

- feels pretty solid; flexes only when twisted intentionally
- keycaps have uniform lettering (so far); but some are not as textured as others
- rubber feet like the poker, so not adjustable
- doesn't come with batteries, so I have yet to play around with the wireless function


Most of its owners(from China) reported that the wireless range sucks to the core. It can't go anywhere over 3m unblocked...
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 30 December 2011, 09:49:52
The initial design was for 6Meter range based on what the designer said.
They are moving a 2nd version soon with longer range but shorter battery life

On a side note, here's some pictures of the Winter Special Edition
(http://i.imgur.com/gn5S8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S7SPQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fJbuU.jpg)

Source: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-278861-1-2.html
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 30 December 2011, 10:31:50
Ooooooh pretty.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: ignition on Fri, 30 December 2011, 10:56:31
Quote from: dante;480168
I'm assuming you've got Cherry Blacks since this is all that is available at the current time; did you notice any flexing in the PCB towards the center of the board?  This is an issue in the Poker that's been corrected in the Pure [I'm assuming this as they've added an additional screw and made a point of it], I just want to know if its present here.


no, no flex towards the center.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: GeorgeStorm on Sun, 01 January 2012, 18:16:45
That looks soo good.
What price is this board?
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 01 January 2012, 18:27:19
KL bought one via a TaoBao agent for $133. It might be a little cheaper once more widely available but probably not by much.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: ignition on Mon, 02 January 2012, 01:28:21
finally got to playing around with the wireless.

edit:

my mistake; it appears that it's not really locking up, just limiting certain key combinations on wireless (e.g. shift+A+W won't work). I guess it works well enough for everyday browsing.
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 07 January 2012, 23:40:52
Review is up (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25836-NEO-KB-87-Zelia-Wireless-Tenkeyless-Chinese-Clone-review!&p=485766#post485766)!
Title: Anyone know anything about this mech keyboard? "KB-87 Zeba"
Post by: Human on Sun, 08 January 2012, 01:52:21
Quote from: keyboardlover;485768
Review is up (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25836-NEO-KB-87-Zelia-Wireless-Tenkeyless-Chinese-Clone-review!&p=485766#post485766)!

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