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Offline Hexterdude

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #500 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:19:31 »
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Quote from: zefyr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 22:32:54
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any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?

Unlimited.
If things goes really well.

What's the price looking at? If there is a lot of orders I hope it could be around $300.

if its $300 i'd definitely buy it
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #501 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:23:22 »

Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #502 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:26:00 »
Quote from: toidbb on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:23:22

Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.

I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #503 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:26:39 »
Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:26:00
Quote from: toidbb on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:23:22

Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.

I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.

My guess is $500 but we will see.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #504 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:27:19 »
Quote from: toidbb on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:23:22

Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.

Are the feet swappable? Meaning can you place them at different edges?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #505 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:28:15 »
Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:26:00
Quote from: toidbb on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:23:22

Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.

I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.

IIRC the original GB went for ~$420 or so. Given the large increase in quantity it should definitely lower the price. It's a great custom don't get me wrong, but not one that I would be willing to pay $400+ for at this point.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #506 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:30:25 »
Quote from: Steezus on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:28:15
Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:26:00
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Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.

I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.

IIRC the original GB went for ~$420 or so. Given the large increase in quantity it should definitely lower the price. It's a great custom don't get me wrong, but not one that I would be willing to pay $400+ for at this point.

I would still expect ~$400. You can only save so much by buying in bulk. Eventually the price just gets as low as possible.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #507 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:34:35 »
UNLIMITED KEYBOARDS!?!?!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #508 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:48:57 »
Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:30:25
Quote from: Steezus on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:28:15
Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:26:00
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Quote from: whmeltonjr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:18:16
I would buy one at $300 for sure, and I still don't even know how I feel about a split layout.

Well the beauty of this one is that if you do not want to use it split, it fits perfectly together, to use as a regular keyboard even if it defeats the purpose.

I wouldn't care about defeating the purpose at $300. That being said, no way this board is only $300.

IIRC the original GB went for ~$420 or so. Given the large increase in quantity it should definitely lower the price. It's a great custom don't get me wrong, but not one that I would be willing to pay $400+ for at this point.

I would still expect ~$400. You can only save so much by buying in bulk. Eventually the price just gets as low as possible.

Yeah sure maybe the price flatlines after like 10k orders or so. ~100-200 boards should be a lot cheaper per unit than 20-30. If not than I'd find a new shop.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #509 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:53:04 »
I said "unlimited" because I expect less than 100, that's what I meant.
And, in that range, price will not be changed. It will be around 400~440USD.
We are still calculating taxes and margin rate for reasonable final price.  >:D damn, it's so hard.
But one thing is sure, It will not be exceed 500, I said I'll give up GB if price goes that high.

This is where I'm standing
I heard part of taxes will be returned only if I can probe I exported product.
So, I'm asking around about "how".

Many of you and my friends are giving advices, maybe too much sometime. but that's good, great thing that I can get this much help :)

But plan is just plan(including establishing a company for this), I can go back to traditional way for this GB, if another way is nothing good enough for me and you all.

Man, now I feel like I'm making this tooooooooo complicated. haha, please consider it as a cute-gentle-paranoid thing.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #510 on: Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:58:51 »
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day.  :confused:
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #511 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:32:01 »
Quote from: FrostyToast on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:58:51
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day.  :confused:

yeah lots of lurkers that will place an order and never post in the thread
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #512 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:35:24 »
Quote from: FrostyToast on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:58:51
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day.  :confused:

Or maybe a select few are over-hyping it. You never know until it is actually time for people to open their wallets.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #513 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:37:20 »
Quote from: radio_killah on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:35:24
Quote from: FrostyToast on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:58:51
You highly underestimate the interest in this keyboard.
Orders for the Octagon V2 shot up above 100 within the day.  :confused:

Or maybe a select few are over-hyping it. You never know until it is actually time for people to open their wallets.

Just go through this thread and count the # of distinct posters ;)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #514 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:39:46 »
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #515 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:52:06 »
Don't worry, people will just be happy you were able to bring any amount of these to us  :)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #516 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:57:15 »
I am ordering!  No doubt!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #517 on: Tue, 01 March 2016, 21:00:57 »
Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:57:15
I am ordering!  No doubt!

My heart is set on this also :)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #518 on: Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:37:40 »
Quote from: alienman82 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 20:57:15
I am ordering!  No doubt!

Me too! My life is not complete without this keyboard :p
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #519 on: Wed, 02 March 2016, 04:45:33 »
I need this. I know I need it!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #520 on: Wed, 02 March 2016, 14:20:10 »
I have lurked quite a bit on this and is very interested.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #521 on: Wed, 02 March 2016, 15:08:01 »
Quote from: zefyr on Mon, 29 February 2016, 22:32:54
Quote from: ccc24 on Mon, 29 February 2016, 22:16:36
any idea on how many spots there will be for the GB?

Unlimited.
If things goes really well.

Impressive.

I am excite.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #522 on: Thu, 03 March 2016, 01:20:48 »
Just read that you will offer dark grey color option!
I'm in!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #523 on: Thu, 03 March 2016, 01:44:52 »
Quote from: alienman82 on Mon, 29 February 2016, 20:50:01
Silver All the way!  Well maybe dark grey :)

or maybe black??  must... decide... on color.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #524 on: Thu, 03 March 2016, 02:29:49 »
I was really hoping for green. The green showed in the early photos was very cool! Oh well, I suppose I needed an excuse to give my wallet a rest...
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #525 on: Thu, 03 March 2016, 19:28:21 »
I want it!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #526 on: Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:16:16 »
Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #527 on: Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:59:48 »
Quote from: calavera on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:16:16
Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.
This is a split keyboard my friend  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #528 on: Fri, 04 March 2016, 04:04:01 »
Quote from: bocahgundul on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:59:48
Quote from: calavera on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:16:16
Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.
This is a split keyboard my friend  :thumb:
Lol i went by the pics only. But will the bottom row support 1.5x mods?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #529 on: Sat, 05 March 2016, 04:01:45 »
Any idea when a GB would start?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #530 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 00:16:50 »
Quote from: calavera on Fri, 04 March 2016, 04:04:01
Quote from: bocahgundul on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:59:48
Quote from: calavera on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:16:16
Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.
This is a split keyboard my friend  :thumb:
Lol i went by the pics only. But will the bottom row support 1.5x mods?
Partially
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #531 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 00:23:15 »
Quote from: WinterIsle on Sun, 06 March 2016, 00:16:50
Quote from: calavera on Fri, 04 March 2016, 04:04:01
Quote from: bocahgundul on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:59:48
Quote from: calavera on Fri, 04 March 2016, 03:16:16
Will the bottom row support 7x space bar and 1.5x mods? Don't see it in the pic.
This is a split keyboard my friend  :thumb:
Lol i went by the pics only. But will the bottom row support 1.5x mods?
Partially
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still interested in the board, but wish it had more options for bottom row.  Is the pcb already set? 
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #532 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 01:36:20 »
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....




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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #533 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 03:28:44 »
That is really not quite the same thing. Many different design choices and not as nice as VE.A's keysizes. :)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #534 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 06:28:53 »
Quote from: mrboovn on Sun, 06 March 2016, 01:36:20
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....
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Not that they're identical but it's fascinating.  Have a link by chance?  Might come in handy for work.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #535 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 06:32:19 »
I don't think it's fair to say that is a copy of the VE.A.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #536 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 06:54:26 »
Similar but i wouldn't say its a copy.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #537 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 13:41:19 »
Agreed, really just looks like any number of ergonomic keyboards.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #538 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 13:48:11 »
Quote from: mrboovn on Sun, 06 March 2016, 01:36:20
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....
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3. No F-row on the left
4. Looks almost nothing like any Vergo aesthetically
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #539 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 20:43:45 »
Quote from: mrboovn on Sun, 06 March 2016, 01:36:20
Just found these pics on Taobao.They are so quick....
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Looks efficient, nice. Cable idea also very good. I'm gonna benchmark it for next version of VE.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #540 on: Sun, 06 March 2016, 21:55:38 »
I'm definitely interested!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #541 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 02:07:44 »
Are there any pics of a disassembled VE.A.

Would be cool to see what it looks like.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #542 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 03:48:22 »
Quote from: Vimto on Mon, 07 March 2016, 02:07:44
Are there any pics of a disassembled VE.A.

Would be cool to see what it looks like.

Please,
Don't post it  :-[
I'm so afraid of something that I cannot mention directly, that you know what.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #543 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 05:19:03 »
I don't have any.
Was wondering if you could.
Sorry if I caused any offence.
Just thought it would be cool to see if there were any.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #544 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 05:44:17 »
Quote from: Vimto on Mon, 07 March 2016, 05:19:03
I don't have any.
Was wondering if you could.
Sorry if I caused any offence.
Just thought it would be cool to see if there were any.

None taken :)
Just a little paranoid.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #545 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 05:49:45 »
HI I'M CRAZY

CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU KEYBOARD
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #546 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 06:09:35 »
i remember recommending this when ergodox first started out or some other split keyboard project.. I don't remember but anywho:

What if the split sides had magnets so when you put both sides together they "snap" on. Probably too much trouble to make adjustments now for magnets but would be a pretty neat feature, no? :P
« Last Edit: Mon, 07 March 2016, 06:11:11 by calavera »
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #547 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 07:11:05 »
Quote from: calavera on Mon, 07 March 2016, 06:09:35
i remember recommending this when ergodox first started out or some other split keyboard project.. I don't remember but anywho:

What if the split sides had magnets so when you put both sides together they "snap" on. Probably too much trouble to make adjustments now for magnets but would be a pretty neat feature, no? :P

Yes it can be attractive for someone.
But practically, keyboard is meant to be used as 'stationary', so even if there's no magnet snap-on mechanism, it will be firmly fixed on desk.
I'm 100% sure because I'm using VE.A all-day :)

UHK made this feature by using socket-pin mechanism. It's really great. It's not just for fixing, it's for add-ons(like thumb track-point), and with that, no inter-cable needed. HOW GREAT IS THAT!!!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #548 on: Mon, 07 March 2016, 07:50:23 »
Quote from: zefyr on Mon, 07 March 2016, 07:11:05
Quote from: calavera on Mon, 07 March 2016, 06:09:35
i remember recommending this when ergodox first started out or some other split keyboard project.. I don't remember but anywho:

What if the split sides had magnets so when you put both sides together they "snap" on. Probably too much trouble to make adjustments now for magnets but would be a pretty neat feature, no? :P

Yes it can be attractive for someone.
But practically, keyboard is meant to be used as 'stationary', so even if there's no magnet snap-on mechanism, it will be firmly fixed on desk.
I'm 100% sure because I'm using VE.A all-day :)

UHK made this feature by using socket-pin mechanism. It's really great. It's not just for fixing, it's for add-ons(like thumb track-point), and with that, no inter-cable needed. HOW GREAT IS THAT!!!

It's awesome to know that you actually study other boards to further improve your product. Whether good or bad, we can always learn a thing or two from competitions.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #549 on: Wed, 09 March 2016, 13:02:56 »
Haha, you are such a humble guy, Zefyr. I'm glad that you do not turn your nose up to other boards and respect and learn from other's work in this hobby. It's awesome to have such an enthusiastic member in our community. :)
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