[GB] Octagon 75% Kustom Keyboard

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It was Left Control.  All the others have the same LED orientation.

This build went better than I expected.  Everything just works.  Now I need to figure out the programming software. 

Thanks for putting this together Elton.  You da man.

[Sygaldry]

Hey, so with so many of you receiving and building your Octagons, how are you all handling the right side keys?

[tbc]

Hey, so with so many of you receiving and building your Octagons, how are you all handling the right side keys?

blanks...

[whentheclouds]

i'll replace the tilde with "Home" and PRT Screen | Scroll Lock | Pause with / * - from the numpad, and the 4 subsequent keys will be
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9
6
3

this ensures i get the correct profiles as well as complete symmetry, at the cost of butchering my numpad

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Hey, so with so many of you receiving and building your Octagons, how are you all handling the right side keys?

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There's a slight profile mismatch but I really don't care. The only one that's obvious is Del.

[tjweir]

Hey, so with so many of you receiving and building your Octagons, how are you all handling the right side keys?

Del
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There's a slight profile mismatch but I really don't care. The only one that's obvious is Del.

My home and work boards both look like this now:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1584105#msg1584105

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Hey, so with so many of you receiving and building your Octagons, how are you all handling the right side keys?

Del
Home
Pg Up
Pg Dn
End
Right arrow

There's a slight profile mismatch but I really don't care. The only one that's obvious is Del.

My home and work boards both look like this now:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.msg1584105#msg1584105

Funky.   

[whizzard]

I put together a build log / review / tutorial on this project on my site.  Here is the reference to the thread here on geekhack:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69177.0

Thanks to everyone who made this keyboard possible... I LOVE IT!

[radio_killah]

I put together a build log / review / tutorial on this project on my site.  Here is the reference to the thread here on geekhack:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69177.0

Thanks to everyone who made this keyboard possible... I LOVE IT!

Wait why not just link us straight to your sight from this post as well lol.

[Zeal]

I put together a build log / review / tutorial on this project on my site.  Here is the reference to the thread here on geekhack:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69177.0

Thanks to everyone who made this keyboard possible... I LOVE IT!

That yellow brush tip was supposed to be screwed into the syringe of lube I guess it can work as an independent brush as well..

[whizzard]

That yellow brush tip was supposed to be screwed into the syringe of lube I guess it can work as an independent brush as well..

Yes, I screwed it into the syringe, that's why I found it so useful.   I guess I didn't make that clear though.

[whizzard]

Another noobie question for you folks... I was trying to program my octagon with the firmware from the authors site (ducky0113 I think).  Anyhow, even though it is in Korean I can understand how it basically works, but when I try the option "Upload Firmware" I get the error that I don't have a DFU Programmer.  Am I doing this right?  I tried looking up DFU programmer and found no results on the board, and a few on google that seems to program firmware for chips but I have no idea if this is what I should use.   So it makes me think I am messing with something I shouldn't.  Since this is my first custom, I am trying to figure out how to program it to do what I need such as using a function key to switch the mapping out, or being able to launch a program from a keypress.

How do most of you go about programming your keyboards?  Thanks again everyone.

edit:  I noticed on the firmware site there was a key highlighted called a "Flip" key... what does this mean?

edit: after searching again, I think I found most of the information I needed, no idea why DFU programmer showed no results earlier.  I found a thread with a tutorial.

[tjweir]

Another noobie question for you folks... I was trying to program my octagon with the firmware from the authors site (ducky0113 I think).  Anyhow, even though it is in Korean I can understand how it basically works, but when I try the option "Upload Firmware" I get the error that I don't have a DFU Programmer.  Am I doing this right?  I tried looking up DFU programmer and found no results on the board, and a few on google that seems to program firmware for chips but I have no idea if this is what I should use.   So it makes me think I am messing with something I shouldn't.  Since this is my first custom, I am trying to figure out how to program it to do what I need such as using a function key to switch the mapping out, or being able to launch a program from a keypress.

How do most of you go about programming your keyboards?  Thanks again everyone.

edit:  I noticed on the firmware site there was a key highlighted called a "Flip" key... what does this mean?

edit: after searching again, I think I found most of the information I needed, no idea why DFU programmer showed no results earlier.  I found a thread with a tutorial.

Add the link to the tutorial, so others can solve the same issue.

[rainb1ood]

I'm going to need a tutorial for that as well

[tjweir]

I had no issues programming my Viper, but I'm drawing a blank on what I actually did.

[whizzard]

Okay, I will post what I found... but it is a little outdated, though it worked for me.  May take a little while...

[whizzard]

Okay, I updated my build log / guide on my personal site to include the guides I used and I also link to the software you need.  If there are errors with anything please let me know, and I hope it helps everyone.  I did not write the guides, and they are a bit outdated but I was able to follow them to get going.

Click the Firmware section at the bottom of the menu for the guides and links.

CLICK HERE FOR THE BUILD LOG / GUIDE

If anyone has a more complete or updated guide to programming the 02_Keymapper software in English please let me know where to find it so I can add it to the guides... there is probably one out there somewhere, but I could not find very many.

[rainb1ood]

Thanks whizzard. You are a wizard.

[tjweir]

If you have a .hex file, you can flash your Viper (I have not built my Octagon yet) with dfu-progammer:
> dfu-programmer atmega32u4 erase
> dfu-programmer atmega32u4 flash <HEXFILE>

I just updated my Viper now.

[radio_killah]

Dope guide. I will probably be using it later! Thanks a lot! 

[whizzard]

You guys are very welcome... glad I could help! 

[whizzard]

Hey guys, quick question... I have a little trouble sorting through the group buy forums and telling what is available or not,  even with the sticky.  Anyhow...  anyone know if duck is making a new kit or has anything like that upcoming?  I had a lot of fun making the Octagon and probably want to grab another kit when it is available.

[whizzard]

After some spying and scouring I think I found the next probable duck kb... the Orion V2?  Am I right?  Looks very nice... keeping my eye out!

[tjweir]

Yup, announced a few days ago.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside

[whizzard]

It looks great... I have no doubt I will be in on that.  You hooked me with the Octagon and you have me wrapped around your finger now.  )

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So I have all the files I think I need.  I'm in the 02D Keymapper with my custom layout, but it won't let me save to a hex file.  When I click Save on the Save dialog screen I get a Run-time Error 76, then the application crashes to desktop.  I tried running it in XP compatibility mode (I'm on Win 8.1) with no luck.  Any ideas?

I had no problems installing the Atmel driver.  They keyboard works great, in fact I'm typing on it right now.  It's just those few keys that aren't quite where I want them yet...

[swornxin]

Yup, announced a few days ago.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=1901745&mid=board_gb_outside

Damn.  I haven't even started the build on my first one, and I'm itching to get this one too.

[tjweir]

So I have all the files I think I need.  I'm in the 02D Keymapper with my custom layout, but it won't let me save to a hex file.  When I click Save on the Save dialog screen I get a Run-time Error 76, then the application crashes to desktop.  I tried running it in XP compatibility mode (I'm on Win 8.1) with no luck.  Any ideas?

I had no problems installing the Atmel driver.  They keyboard works great, in fact I'm typing on it right now.  It's just those few keys that aren't quite where I want them yet...

Make an empty file, name it whatever.hex, and overwrite it with the hex file you create in the app. 

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So I have all the files I think I need.  I'm in the 02D Keymapper with my custom layout, but it won't let me save to a hex file.  When I click Save on the Save dialog screen I get a Run-time Error 76, then the application crashes to desktop.  I tried running it in XP compatibility mode (I'm on Win 8.1) with no luck.  Any ideas?

I had no problems installing the Atmel driver.  They keyboard works great, in fact I'm typing on it right now.  It's just those few keys that aren't quite where I want them yet...

Make an empty file, name it whatever.hex, and overwrite it with the hex file you create in the app.

I should have thought of that. Thanks, I'll try it when I get home.

[tjweir]

So I have all the files I think I need.  I'm in the 02D Keymapper with my custom layout, but it won't let me save to a hex file.  When I click Save on the Save dialog screen I get a Run-time Error 76, then the application crashes to desktop.  I tried running it in XP compatibility mode (I'm on Win 8.1) with no luck.  Any ideas?

I had no problems installing the Atmel driver.  They keyboard works great, in fact I'm typing on it right now.  It's just those few keys that aren't quite where I want them yet...

Make an empty file, name it whatever.hex, and overwrite it with the hex file you create in the app.

I should have thought of that. Thanks, I'll try it when I get home.

Oh, and make it in the same directory as the O2D mapper exe.
That's how I've had to do it for my viper and butterfly numpad.

[whizzard]

The replies are all correct... like it said in the guide, put them in the same folder on your root drive if possible... I got the same error you are getting until I realized not to use the "default" name (02_Keymapper_map01.hex) or whatever it gives by default, and just put in "keys" or some small word and it worked.

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Thanks.  While I'm working on that here are some photos.






I didn't have very favorable lighting today so I only took a few.  Album link

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The replies are all correct... like it said in the guide, put them in the same folder on your root drive if possible... I got the same error you are getting until I realized not to use the "default" name (02_Keymapper_map01.hex) or whatever it gives by default, and just put in "keys" or some small word and it worked.

So I have all the files I think I need.  I'm in the 02D Keymapper with my custom layout, but it won't let me save to a hex file.  When I click Save on the Save dialog screen I get a Run-time Error 76, then the application crashes to desktop.  I tried running it in XP compatibility mode (I'm on Win 8.1) with no luck.  Any ideas?

I had no problems installing the Atmel driver.  They keyboard works great, in fact I'm typing on it right now.  It's just those few keys that aren't quite where I want them yet...

Make an empty file, name it whatever.hex, and overwrite it with the hex file you create in the app.

I should have thought of that. Thanks, I'll try it when I get home.

Oh, and make it in the same directory as the O2D mapper exe.
That's how I've had to do it for my viper and butterfly numpad.

Yeah it worked great.  Thanks dudes. 

Any idea what "MFN" and "Ly Tg" do?  I assume the latter is some sort of Layer Toggle but I'm unsure how it works.

[whizzard]

Not too sure about MFN... but the other one is Layer Toggle I think.  I haven't really done a lot of mapping yet... the default is working well and I just set one layer for all the LED toggles.  Very nice looking keycap and layout you have there!

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From what I can gather, LyTg just toggles between Layers 1 & 2, as indicated by the activity light.  Press & release once to go into Layer 2.  Press again to return to Layer 1.  Pretty simple.

I haven't found a use for MFN yet.

[zennasyndroxx]

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

[katushkin]

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

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That's so pretty

[tjweir]

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

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Great looking board, classic black on beige and those white on CMY are very nice. 

[whizzard]

Your board came out great!  I wish I could have used that layout but I needed too many keys for what I do 

[quochung1989]

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

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CMYK 'll better, friend

[zennasyndroxx]

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

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Great looking board, classic black on beige and those white on CMY are very nice. 

Thank you the beige looks pretty yellow IRL. needs retr0brighting

Your board came out great!  I wish I could have used that layout but I needed too many keys for what I do 

Thanks I use caps lock as winkey since i'm not gonna use caps lock all the time

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

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CMYK 'll better, friend

I know i don't have cmyk. need to find one now

Just finished assembling this. aw yis

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That's so pretty

thank you I'm thinking what leds to install.

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Are there any guides to controlling the numerous LED functions?  My function keys appear to do different things every day and never the thing I expect them to do.

I've seen the demo video but without knowing WTF he's pressing to get those actions it's no use to me.

Also still wondering what MFN does.  It was apparently important enough to include in the default keymap.

[cannonking]

Thinking about whether to use switch LEDs or not, can you set them to turn off/dim with a hotkey?

[whizzard]

Wish I could help more... like I said all I found in English were the guides I posted on my review. 

You can try what I did and using the drop down menu part copy layer 1 to Layer FN1, and then modify layer FN1's top F1-F12 keys to all the LED controls.

Then just play around with them until you figure it out.  I know that MFN has something to do with the "function key" layers.  I haven't tested that key or needed it yet to know.  Possibly means "Main" or "Multi" Function key, "Macro" I dunno... I haven't used it yet. 

To use layer FN1, just map one of your keys to "FN1" and while holding it, that toggles the board to the other keymap. 

You can put anything you want to test in that layer and mess with it.  That is how I figured out the LED functions on mine.

[zennasyndroxx]

btw, a full documentation of o2d's firmware can be found in this link below:

http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dudgnl2&categoryNo=15&from=postList&parentCategoryNo=15

that's o2d's own blog, i presume.

he briefly mentioned aboout mfn.

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btw, a full documentation of o2d's firmware can be found in this link below:

http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dudgnl2&categoryNo=15&from=postList&parentCategoryNo=15

that's o2d's own blog, i presume.

he briefly mentioned aboout mfn.

Thanks, that is actually helpful... after I translate from Korean. 

MFN apparently allows you to select multiple FN layer controls (FN1 thru FN3) with a single key by pressing it the desired number of times.  So press once for FN1 layer keys, press twice for FN2, and so on.  Hence "Multi-Function".

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MFN: FN1, FN2, multi-function function keys available for all functions of the FN3

　　　　 Pressing once during the same maintenance and function of the FN1

　　　　 Click once during the same functions of the FN2 keep pressing twice in less than a second

　　　　 Press twice during the same functions of the FN3 keep pressing 3 times

　　　　 Continuous input recognition time is less than one second after pressing the key off of MFN,
Ly Ch will cycle through the 4 user layers.  Ly Tg toggles between User Layer 1 and 2 -- it doesn't work like MFN (with the multi-taps).

I'm still deciphering the LED controls...

[whizzard]

btw, a full documentation of o2d's firmware can be found in this link below:

http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dudgnl2&categoryNo=15&from=postList&parentCategoryNo=15

that's o2d's own blog, i presume.

he briefly mentioned aboout mfn.

Thank you very much!!!  I was looking for this, but was confused by the Korean.  I translated the page and added it to my guide under the firmware section.

Here is a quick link to the translated page: HERE

[xauser]

I have tmk firmware running on my octagon but only limited control of the rgb leds for now.

[tjweir]

I have tmk firmware running on my octagon but only limited control of the rgb leds for now.

Oh cool, post more info when you can please.

[xauser]

What do you want to know? I will push the sources the next days after some more testing.