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Title: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: donnghia on Mon, 03 June 2019, 01:46:35
Recently as a Festival many FC660m BT (Bluetooth) have been introduced


but not any news about the FC660C Topre Bluetooth...Why Leopold? :eek:

HHKB already have bluetooth for years ago... ! why ?  :'(
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 03 June 2019, 09:01:28
Yeah a bluetooth PCB can be purchased on taobao but ships only mainland China.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Sup on Mon, 03 June 2019, 10:26:31
Yeah a bluetooth PCB can be purchased on taobao but ships only mainland China.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Superbuy is the answer.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: donnghia on Mon, 03 June 2019, 11:05:19
Yeah a bluetooth PCB can be purchased on taobao but ships only mainland China.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

really? is it a mod? do you know how long the baterry last? or can you give me the link (if it not broke the rules here, obviously)
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: lolafineday on Mon, 03 June 2019, 11:18:42
Yeah a bluetooth PCB can be purchased on taobao but ships only mainland China.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

really? is it a mod? do you know how long the baterry last? or can you give me the link (if it not broke the rules here, obviously)
Oh I got confused, it's a hhkb controller for bluetooth. But deskeys is working on it they have a working prototype already.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: donnghia on Mon, 03 June 2019, 21:36:54

with all the respect to Hasu, I'm afraid that the baterry won't last long.

the hhkb bt controller of Hasu offer 30hours baterry while official bluetooth HHKB offer 30days ! :(
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Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 17 July 2019, 15:11:41
Any updates on the controller with BT for FC660c ?
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: kayke on Sun, 15 September 2019, 16:50:55
I just bought a FC660C and was having the same question.
Searching around Taobao, I found a shop https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-1201089627.20.365e7012VBpxf6&id=590236576831 and a post showing success transforming 660C to bluetooth, with 2200mAh battery (claiming to last about a month): https://post.smzdm.com/p/aek839g3/

Unfortunately the Taobao link ships to China only. I bet you can work around it using transfer shipping service. Since my friend is going to China soon I am looking forward to grab one!
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: djj0817 on Wed, 18 September 2019, 17:25:22
I'm a Chinese guy, maybe I could help you guys
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Zleader on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:41:08
So, I've actually just received the above item from TaoBao (China) to the USA using parcel forwarding.  I'm going to do in install and update here in the near future.

Here's a pic of it with battery underneath: https://imgur.com/a/Y2uPbbQ

Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: aparezco on Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:10:46
So, I've actually just received the above item from TaoBao (China) to the USA using parcel forwarding.  I'm going to do in install and update here in the near future.

Here's a pic of it with battery underneath: https://imgur.com/a/Y2uPbbQ

I'm very interested on your results!

If you are not in China, how did you get the controller and battery from China? Proxy?
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Sup on Tue, 01 October 2019, 12:48:19
So, I've actually just received the above item from TaoBao (China) to the USA using parcel forwarding.  I'm going to do in install and update here in the near future.

Here's a pic of it with battery underneath: https://imgur.com/a/Y2uPbbQ

I'm very interested on your results!

If you are not in China, how did you get the controller and battery from China? Proxy?

He says he used a package forwarder, Example Superbuy i bought NOS Yellow alps from tao bao using Superbuy.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Kibort on Sun, 06 October 2019, 05:14:16
So, I've actually just received the above item from TaoBao (China) to the USA using parcel forwarding.  I'm going to do in install and update here in the near future.

Here's a pic of it with battery underneath: https://imgur.com/a/Y2uPbbQ

I am also In the proces of ordering one for my FC660C but it arrived at the superbuy warehouse and I got a picture but it says "FC980" on the controller.
Dit they ship the wrong one or also usable for the FC660C? because I see yours has FC960C on it aswell.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Zleader on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:12:42
I think that it will still work.  I am testing it tonight - so we will know for sure soon! haha

After closely looking at the pictures on the taobao web store, the pics show the fc980 controller in a fc660.  You can tell by the numbers printed on the PCB.  Also the only visible difference that I can see is a small white female plug for another connection.  That 980 connector is not present on my copy indicating that it might still be compatible.

Again, I will try it tonight and hopefully it works properly.  I will update here with my findings.  I have a Norbauer case for my fc660c that I'm hoping the BT connectivity will pass through the metal.  If it doesn't, I will try it in the plastic case.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Zleader on Mon, 07 October 2019, 20:17:00
On the other side of the PCB it says BLE660C

Image: https://imgur.com/CEa0fT1
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Zleader on Tue, 08 October 2019, 20:02:16
Ok, so I've completed the install.  It's really simple, you literally just unplug the stock controller, plug in taobao controller, and plug in the battery.  It's mac compatible btw!  At first when I paired the two, I plugged it in via USB but I think that made it freak out a little bit while the BT pairing was in progress.  After a while of it searching/waiting to connect to my macbook, it worked just fine!  No problems yet with some simple typing tests.  It will even wake up my macbook from sleep mode. No problems with the signal going thru the Norbauer case.  I have a little bit of extra space between the case back and battery so I've just bought an even bigger 10,000mah battery from amazon. 

Here are some images: https://imgur.com/a/pEpWJUG

Overall, very pleased with this mod.  Hopefully, it continues to work for me! Let me know if you have any other questions.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: AdrianMan on Sat, 12 October 2019, 06:29:14
Ok, so I've completed the install.  It's really simple, you literally just unplug the stock controller, plug in taobao controller, and plug in the battery.  It's mac compatible btw!  At first when I paired the two, I plugged it in via USB but I think that made it freak out a little bit while the BT pairing was in progress.  After a while of it searching/waiting to connect to my macbook, it worked just fine!  No problems yet with some simple typing tests.  It will even wake up my macbook from sleep mode. No problems with the signal going thru the Norbauer case.  I have a little bit of extra space between the case back and battery so I've just bought an even bigger 10,000mah battery from amazon. 

Here are some images: https://imgur.com/a/pEpWJUG

Overall, very pleased with this mod.  Hopefully, it continues to work for me! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Hey this is great news ! I would be interested in 2 controllers, 1 for my fc660 and one for fc980c.

Are they programmable? I have Hasu controllers in both my keyboards
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Kibort on Sun, 20 October 2019, 14:04:29
I have a little bit of extra space between the case back and battery so I've just bought an even bigger 10,000mah battery from amazon. 

Would you mind providing a link to that battery? I have my controller on the way but I still need to buy a battery. What size do you have right now?
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Mitchis on Mon, 21 October 2019, 12:13:54
Seriously if Leopold had stock BT I would have bought one when I decided to go back to Topre.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Kibort on Tue, 22 October 2019, 09:47:31
The YDKB online keymap builder only allows me to download the file in a DL.bin file and has a link to download a DL reflash tool.
This is only for windows however. So I won't be able to reflash it on my mac or is there an alternative?
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: 9mmninjamonkey on Mon, 28 October 2019, 12:58:11
You have to get it into USB-Drive mode and overwrite the .BIN in there. There's instructions in chinese (google translate) on that page.


You keep ESC held down as you plug it in. I just installed mine yesterday and was using it all day wirelessly! I cannibalized a battery from my velocifire tkl71ws (so it's only a 1000mAh) and the board was still at 90% (Documentation only reports by 10%'s to windows, so it's between 90-99%.
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: deagle on Fri, 22 May 2020, 14:29:11
Looks like these are available here: https://www.chinahao.com/product/590236576831/

I just got this keyboard and with Hasu not shipping to USA right now this mod is tempting. How has it been working since your last post?
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: AdrianMan on Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:36:45
Looks like these are available here: https://www.chinahao.com/product/590236576831/

I just got this keyboard and with Hasu not shipping to USA right now this mod is tempting. How has it been working since your last post?

They work well, but that price on chinahao of 100$ is ridiculous... I paid like 55$
Title: Re: Why no Leopold 660C bluetooth yet? why Leopold?
Post by: Motherthocker on Wed, 05 January 2022, 00:41:00
I credit Leopold for playing it safe with Bluetooth, honestly. The Topre offerings are higher-end keyboards, and people expect them to work, and work well… And unfortunately, Bluetooth technology is just too bleeding edge to be considered reliable yet. My thinking is that Leopold has already really taken a risk by using Mini USB, which is basically a standard from the future.

Anyway, I’d just be patient. Something tells me Leopold will eventually introduce the Bluetooth compatibility you seek. Maybe in the distant future. Surely by, say, 2018. But until then? Enjoy what they offer… Bluetooth or not, Leopold is the most advanced keyboard available today, in 1985.

Oh my God! I’m late to meet a friend down at the Twin Pines Mall! I promised him I’d video-tape his experiment. Oh, jeez, I gotta run…