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UPDATES!: Somethings came up and I won't be able to fulfill the order of the group buy. However, if anyone who wants to run the group buy, I have information from the reseller that I can arrange for you to speak with. The colors are limited to BLUE, BROWN, BLACK, RED. Pricing information available later on today. Please PM me for more information.

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INTEREST FORM: http://goo.gl/forms/fsxTmDXvhy

I've been able to contact a large distributor and am working closely to find out when we can get these! Updates coming on late January.

Options:
Black (Linear)
Blue (Click)
Brown (Tactile)
Red (Linear)

PCB or Plate mount.


About the switches:
These switches are for SMD RGB LEDs. The casing is completely clear to allow the LED's lights to shine through them all the way from the PCB. Which means that the RGB LEDs are mounted directly to 4 or 6 pins in the PCB. PCBs that have two inserts for LEDs will not support these! Although you could mod it, it could get messy, I honestly wouldn't recommend it.


Cherry's website for more information about the switches.

« Last Edit: Tue, 27 January 2015, 15:10:02 by nandop »
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 16:37:46 »
150 Black switches for me

If you ever need to change the switch type, you could always just swap the internals right?
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 17:09:46 »
Would take about 150 blacks
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 17:12:24 »
depending on price, I'd take 200 of any switch type. Just going to swap the springs and stems anyways.
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 17:20:37 »
depending on price, I'd take 200 of any switch type. Just going to swap the springs and stems anyways.

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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 17:22:01 »
;P

tempting to get some blues and get some ghetto greens going. but i dont have enough cash right now to start a project just to play with these switches.

very interested to see what people here start doing with them though!

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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 18:17:37 »
Out of curiosity, will these come with LEDs installed? And if not, what LED size do they use? Can we also use normal 3mm LEDs with this switch?

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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 18:34:55 »
Interested in Browns, maybe up to 150.

Any idea if these would be PCB or plate mount?

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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 18:41:18 »
I am interested in these as well, but I do have a few questions too:

1) Plate or PCB mounted?
2) Price?
3) Aside from the clear switch housing, how do these differ from normal switches?
4) Can these hold normal LEDs (not SMD)?
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 19:28:24 »
depending on price, I'd take 200 of any switch type. Just going to swap the springs and stems anyways.
Yep, same here :D. No prices yet. I've contacted a reseller in South Korea, and China. There are no retailers in the US :(

Interested in Browns, maybe up to 150.

Any idea if these would be PCB or plate mount?


They shouldn't be any different from regular ones with the black plastic. Here's the website for specifications. I'll post a copy at the top.

I am interested in these as well, but I do have a few questions too:

1) Plate or PCB mounted?
2) Price?
3) Aside from the clear switch housing, how do these differ from normal switches?
4) Can these hold normal LEDs (not SMD)?

1,2) Wow, that flew right by me. Let me know which one you prefer. I'm still waiting for one of the resellers/distributors to email me back. Now I have a good idea of how many quote for.
3,4) They are made to allow RGB SMD LEDs to light through. Unfortunately, through the pictures, I can't see them holding 3mm LEDs. You'll have to mod it.
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 19:32:26 »
As long as there are holes on the bottom of the switch for the LED legs, you could get those rectangular LEDs and just have them on the inside of the switch.





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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 19:40:25 »
Here's a pic I found of the underside of the switch. It looks like it should fit the 2 pins of the LED, but without knowing the size of the holes, I can't say for sure.
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 19:43:03 »
7bit on deskthority has had these switches on pre-order for months.

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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 19:46:11 »
Here's a pic I found of the underside of the switch. It looks like it should fit the 2 pins of the LED, but without knowing the size of the holes, I can't say for sure.
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Looks like there is a hole in there and two additional smaller holes on the side. So, yes! You could place the LED all the way inside. We would actually need someone with the new Corsair's keyboard and open one of the switches, insert a 3mm led there and close it to be 100%  the switch is fully functional with a LED inside. I'll mention that once they get back to me. I'm guessing they'll email me back tomorrow.
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 19:47:47 »
7bit on deskthority has had these switches on pre-order for months.

I saw that, let's see what the resellers will tell me. I'm actually going to email about 5 additional distributors just in case.
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing) - No answer yet
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 09 November 2014, 20:56:58 »
Looks really tempting!
Thinking about ordering a bunch of brown/blues

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Re: [IC] Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing) - No answer yet
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 09:35:49 »
I will take 160 red if this happens.
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing) - No answer yet
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 12:29:10 »
Tempted to get a hold of some of these

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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:23:06 »
Would buy 70-100 reds if it happens, along with a compatible 60% pcb if eventually availible :P

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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 14:31:26 »
I'll take 100 Blues if this happen :D
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Re: Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing - Red/Black/Brown/Blue)
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 15:17:25 »
Interested in Browns, maybe up to 150.

Any idea if these would be PCB or plate mount?


They shouldn't be any different from regular ones with the black plastic. Here's the website for specifications. I'll post a copy at the top.

I did look at your link, thanks.  They don't tell me if you're expecting these to be PCB or plate mount.  It would be helpful to know.  The regular ones with the black plastic also come in PCB and plate mounted flavors.  The differences are kind of a big deal, depending on your build.

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The A/B in the model name designates mount type for the switch.  In this case MX1A-G1NA is the plate mount version and MX1A-G1NB is the PCB mount for the "Brown" style switch.

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Re: [IC] Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing) - No answer yet
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 16:37:02 »
New GH user starting a GB and no one questions their credibility?

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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 10 November 2014, 16:39:08 »
New GH user starting a GB and no one questions their credibility?

Actually I reported the thread to let mods deal with it and it would seem with recent events (ex. mods not allowing new people to start group buys) the OP wouldn't be able to actually start a group buy since he is so new.

And I mentioned there is technically already a group buy on deskthority for these.

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Re: [IC] Cherry MX RGB Switches (Clear casing) - No answer yet
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:06:35 »
Will take the cheapest option for 100 switches.

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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - Never answered. Last attempt this week.
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 20:59:16 »
I've contacted a representative at Cherrycorp.com and the last email sent to me was that they were going to contact Europe in regards to any time estimate of when these switches will be available, but never got back to me.

I've sent out another email today and depending on their answer this week, I'll continue with the group or have to cancel like Deskthority.

So far the rumors seems true that Corsair does have priority over them and they mentioned huge backorders from many distributors here in America. They are highly sought after.

Anyways, I'll let you guys know how it goes. I really want this to happen! Sorry about the late news.
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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 21:33:29 »
If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - Never answered. Last attempt this week.
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 15 December 2014, 21:48:20 »
If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.

That's true. The SMD LEDs are not that easy to install. Easiest way would be to create LED strips for each row (so they are spaced properly), and then connect the ends to a controller. That way you can install them in any keyboard. Plus, buy only the rows you need if you have a 4% 60% 87% or 100%. What do you think?
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - Never answered. Last attempt this week.
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 07:41:55 »
Here's the email I received:

"Currently the plan is for a public release in early 2015.  At this point we would be able to order it, however the lead time is currently unknown and the team here will not begin the order process until a forecast or PO is loaded.  Please check back with us toward the latter part of January and we can check to see where we are then."

So, I'll push it towards the end of January for further updates.
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - (Pushed until end of January for updates.)
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:18:36 »
interested in 200 of any

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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - (Pushed until end of January for updates.)
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:34:25 »
interested in 200 of any

Will you be replacing the inside? In other words, purchasing to use the clear casing only? I'll see if they can sell just that because I'm also interested in the clear casing, but not with the switches offered.
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - Never answered. Last attempt this week.
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:42:01 »
Here's the email I received:

"Currently the plan is for a public release in early 2015.  At this point we would be able to order it, however the lead time is currently unknown and the team here will not begin the order process until a forecast or PO is loaded.  Please check back with us toward the latter part of January and we can check to see where we are then."

So, I'll push it towards the end of January for further updates.

Great news  :)
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - (Pushed until end of January for updates.)
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 11:57:25 »
If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.

I got some clarification on this, it is $100K per year not 100K pcs

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 12:01:31 »
If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.

I got some clarification on this, it is $100K per year not 100K pcs

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I added an interest form. I'm really determined to make this happen and quite invested in it. If anyone would like to team up with their resources, that would be amazing and very welcome! :D

I understand quantities will depend on price, so I'll keep everyone posted. I'm on GH everyday, so contacting is easy, just give me 24-48 hours.
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Re: [IC] Cherry MX Clear casing - (Pushed until end of January for updates.)
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 12:28:53 »
If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.

I got some clarification on this, it is $100K per year not 100K pcs

Is this to become a distributor?
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If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.

I got some clarification on this, it is $100K per year not 100K pcs

Is this to become a distributor?

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If you're trying to do a GB for MX RGBs, the MOQ is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k. That's 1000 people at 100 a person. It's possible if you can make keyboard with easily doable SMD LEDs.

I got some clarification on this, it is $100K per year not 100K pcs

Is this to become a distributor?

Yes

This is insane.

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Interesting. Very interesting. Though I don't understand the reason for a clear switch case but none the less if their is a demand their will be supplies.

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Interesting. Very interesting. Though I don't understand the reason for a clear switch case but none the less if their is a demand their will be supplies.

1) Bling. It looks different and I honestly have no idea if anyone would do this.
2) More light diffusion. This allows light from LEDs to diffuse more evenly allowing for cleaner and brighter lighting.
3) This allows for in-switch LEDs. This not only makes the light more even, but will also rid interference with keycaps as LEDs can sometimes cause issues in that regard.
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Interesting. Very interesting. Though I don't understand the reason for a clear switch case but none the less if their is a demand their will be supplies.

Once I'm able to get a hold of these, I can start developing RGB PCBs (currently in very early prototyping stages). If you are not a big fan of LEDs, then it would be more difficult to see a reason for it. :D
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Interesting. Very interesting. Though I don't understand the reason for a clear switch case but none the less if their is a demand their will be supplies.

1) Bling. It looks different and I honestly have no idea if anyone would do this.
2) More light diffusion. This allows light from LEDs to diffuse more evenly allowing for cleaner and brighter lighting.
3) This allows for in-switch LEDs. This not only makes the light more even, but will also rid interference with keycaps as LEDs can sometimes cause issues in that regard.

I do like the diffusion of light aspect of it. I didn't know that. Where do you find inswitch LEDs?


Interesting. Very interesting. Though I don't understand the reason for a clear switch case but none the less if their is a demand their will be supplies.

Once I'm able to get a hold of these, I can start developing RGB PCBs (currently in very early prototyping stages). If you are not a big fan of LEDs, then it would be more difficult to see a reason for it. :D

It's not that I'm not a big fan LEDs it is just that I have extremely little knowledge about LEDs beside it providing backlight to a keyboard. I've been reading, reading a lot here and there seeing what people are doing to their keyboards and seeing what do I want if I was to build my own or build upon someone's pcb. 


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I'd grab 200 blacks. Form filled.. hopefully this actually happens as I don't want to take apart an rgb keyboard for these

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This would be awesome, since the thing only available close to this is clear switch tops.

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I'd grab 200 blacks. Form filled.. hopefully this actually happens as I don't want to take apart an rgb keyboard for these

Yep. Hopefully the supplier has good news. Been talking to the representative for a couple of months now. Now I have an estimated order to check if we meet MOQ.
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any updates on this?
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Received this email:

[...]As for the MX RGB, pricing is just now being set up.  I can pass your information onto the sales person who is gathering some initial orders.  It may be some time yet before we get stock on these.
 
That’s about all the new information on this we have at this time.  I’m copying our Sr. Technician.  Feel free to keep in touch with either of us.[...]

[...] I will let you know the next step as soon as Sales advises us on the status.
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Will they be available in MX Clear?
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Received this email:

[...]As for the MX RGB, pricing is just now being set up.  I can pass your information onto the sales person who is gathering some initial orders.  It may be some time yet before we get stock on these.
 
That’s about all the new information on this we have at this time.  I’m copying our Sr. Technician.  Feel free to keep in touch with either of us.[...]

[...] I will let you know the next step as soon as Sales advises us on the status.

yes, yes, yes.  :-X
Collection(s) : Ducky Shine 2 TKL x Poker II x 62g FaceW x 62g Gateron Black GON NerD TKL x 65g Z GON NerD 60