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Title: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 16:58:54
Korean ergonomic keyboard VE.A

(http://i.imgur.com/w4g9AN3.jpg)

•Base kit : $399

-Anodized aluminum
-Polycarbonate
-VE.A Type T pcb T-II
-75% layout
-SATA cable connection
-Compatible Cherry MX switches
-1.5mm SUS(stainless steel) plate
-RGB led (18piece)
-Switch  led
-Include bolts + nuts , SATA cable + Mini USB cable

(http://i.imgur.com/sMPQnGm.jpg)

•Housing color option
-Black
-Dark grey
-Silver

•Additional options

-Change to Black plate  (+10.00 $)
-Switches = Gateron(+22.00 $) / CherryMX(+42.00 $) / Zealios (+72.00 $)
-Keycap = Non-printed or laser printed Grey keycap , Cherry profile PBT (+20.00 $)
-Keycap = Non-printed or laser printed White keycap , Cherry profile PBT (+20.00 $)
-VE.A stand = Acrylic stand (+45.00 $)

•Additional Parts for VE.A - PCB (+55.00 $) / Plate (+25.00 $) / Black plate (+35.00 $) / Titianium Coated black plate  (+35.00 $)


•Shipping:
Shipping is $8.75 to US
Estimated ship date is Aug 8, 2016


•Where to buy
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:03:31
Damn, cool to see a korean custom on massdrop.. but I can already envision  the massdrop "overpriced" comments by the dozen
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:04:44
Damn, cool to see a korean custom on massdrop.. but I can already envision  the massdrop "overpriced" comments by the dozen
Yeah its pretty nice keyboard , many korean user want this keyboard sold on korea
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Floody on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:12:09
That acrylic stand is so pretty
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:13:55
That acrylic stand is so pretty
Yeah  its pretty and comfortable for VE.A
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:22:41
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:25:37
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
Yeah , need re-anodized
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Floody on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:26:10
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
What colors were available in the first run?
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:27:25
What colors were available in the first run?

I know henz and yuktsi have really nice green ones, not sure if any other colors were made.
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:31:14
What colors were available in the first run?

I know henz and yuktsi have really nice green ones, not sure if any other colors were made.
i saw a gold one is kbdlab  :thumb:
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:32:15
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
What colors were available in the first run?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_Lsno50

olive green, gold, red, (pink?)
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Floody on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:35:02
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
What colors were available in the first run?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_Lsno50

olive green, gold, red, (pink?)
That pink with Miami would look amazing!
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:37:42
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
What colors were available in the first run?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_Lsno50

olive green, gold, red, (pink?)
yup you got a picture  :thumb:
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:38:12
Disappointed about the lack of color options  :(
What colors were available in the first run?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_Lsno50

olive green, gold, red, (pink?)
That pink with Miami would look amazing!
if we can re anodize will be better choice  :thumb:
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:39:41
Looks great.  Wish I could afford it :(
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Jin on Mon, 16 May 2016, 17:41:10
Looks great.  Wish I could afford it :(
Will be good , its pretty nice keyboard
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 May 2016, 02:49:51
Guys, if you get this.

Don't waste your money on that stand..

Tenting requires a MUCH HIGHER stand, and across multiple axis for best fit and comfort.


This seems to only tent left-right but not up-down..

I had tried using my ergodox with only left right tenting, it did not fit my wrist well.



ONTOP of which, you need significantly more tenting then that picture.. something along the lines of 100mm in the middle..
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 May 2016, 02:52:15
IMHO,  this design compromises  Ergonomics to preserve keycap compatibility..


If you're gonna go this far and get a $400 ERGONOMIC keyboard,   but it isn't designed all the way for ergonomics.. What was the point ..  (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/hehe-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)


The right hand side would work fine, because you can get your hands around it.


But notice the left hand side 1x qwerty-keys are staggered away from direction which fingers naturally curl..  (here we see the compromise, to preserve cap compatibility)

Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 17 May 2016, 02:55:38
For $400, I'd expect machined acrylic,  not laser cut acrylic..   and if it is laser cut,  I'd expect better cut than what's in the picture..

Those vertical lines show up because they're prioritizing cut speed over cut quality..  This is a highly tweak intensive process.. because different acrylics even within a single batch may require different cut speeds / cut temperatures for smooth edges..



The original ergodox does not have very good edges either, but for $200, I let it go..

Not @ $400
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:11:27
triple posting aside, tp4 makes some good points. looking at the massdrop version, I'm not seeing a $400 keyboard. The korean version looked much higher quality.
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:22:18
triple posting aside, tp4 makes some good points. looking at the massdrop version, I'm not seeing a $400 keyboard. The korean version looked much higher quality.
As far as I can see, there is no difference between R1 and massdrop version except for color options.
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:24:35
As far as I can see, there is no difference between R1 and massdrop version except for color options.

well there's the color options, and korean groupbuy also came with the option of having a metal tag with custom text on the back. also, could be my imagination, but I'm pretty sure the koreans had machined acrylic. It's little things, but it adds up when we're talking about this price point.
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Floody on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:24:52
triple posting aside, tp4 makes some good points. looking at the massdrop version, I'm not seeing a $400 keyboard. The korean version looked much higher quality.
As far as I can see, there is no difference between R1 and massdrop version except for color options.
And this one might fix the left spacebar issue
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Waateva on Tue, 17 May 2016, 12:40:29
As far as I can see, there is no difference between R1 and massdrop version except for color options.

well there's the color options, and korean groupbuy also came with the option of having a metal tag with custom text on the back. also, could be my imagination, but I'm pretty sure the koreans had machined acrylic. It's little things, but it adds up when we're talking about this price point.

Zefyr has stated in regards to the Massdrop groupbuy...

Most of all, there is no acrylic laser cut part in VE.A. (Why somebody thinks there's one? I have no idea.)
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Niomosy on Tue, 17 May 2016, 13:47:31
IMHO,  this design compromises  Ergonomics to preserve keycap compatibility..


If you're gonna go this far and get a $400 ERGONOMIC keyboard,   but it isn't designed all the way for ergonomics.. What was the point .. 
Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/hehe-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)



The right hand side would work fine, because you can get your hands around it.


But notice the left hand side 1x qwerty-keys are staggered away from direction which fingers naturally curl..  (here we see the compromise, to preserve cap compatibility)



Personally, I'm fine with preserving cap compatibility.  I also like that it's preserving the ANSI layout.  I realize I'm a misfit here but I make use of all of those keys on the right side that get displaced with symmetric matrix layout boards.  In all honesty, all I want is a mech switch MS Ergo board.  This board would be fantastic for me so long as I can tent right-to-left. 
Title: Re: VE.A in Massdrop
Post by: Data on Fri, 20 May 2016, 09:40:38
As far as I can see, there is no difference between R1 and massdrop version except for color options.

well there's the color options, and korean groupbuy also came with the option of having a metal tag with custom text on the back. also, could be my imagination, but I'm pretty sure the koreans had machined acrylic. It's little things, but it adds up when we're talking about this price point.

It's machined polycarb.  Superior to acrylic.