Starting out I am not attacking TKC or anyone else, I just want accurate information like the rest of us.
Thank you Goat, I am well aware to whom I was speaking. You may have somehow missed the part where I explicitly stated I was speaking with Durock. Also taking TKC/c3 as a source for correct information about the switches is not proof in the slightest, not that they must be lying. But it would be absolutely stupid to say "the people that stand to benefit from saying so, and whose claims are being questioned say its true therefor it must be". As im sure must be obvious.
As for JWK being the factory, yes once again I am well aware though they produce switches and tooling, Durock are a manufacturer who uses some of
said tooling, that specifically which they purchased/are contracted to use (pdf below with some switch details). Consider this, Durock confers with JWK about creating new tooling for their switches... JWK themselves give switches made with the material a failure evaluation, most likely due to tolerance and consistency/yield issues and say simply its not possible/we wont do it.
This leads me to believe that tangerines v2 are not UHMWPE for two reasons, one you probably already understand admittedly is weak, that being that, if JWK/Durock gives them a failure evaluation, why would tkc have them produced regardless? This one isn't great since its not Durock producing them supposedly but its worth thinking about to an extent.
The second reason, we know from bsun's UHMWPE stem tolerances being poor, that similarly other UHMWPE switch tolerances should also be rather poor, as was stated by them as well as JWK and Durock. Knowing this I have a few questions. For example, A) tv2 have the exact same switch top wobble as other JWK switches, B) they have the exact same tooling marks as other jwk switches, C) they sound practically indistinguishable from other jwk switches which are a mix of nylon and pc, D) they do not look remotely like what UHMWPE is expected to look like,
Most importantly E), they are very consistent from switch to switch, the tolerances seem very good (aside from poor elasticity of major pc content top housings causing switch top wobble), as expected of jwk and durock switches we have seen before. *not* expected from UHMWPE.
Nothing so far leads any of us to believe that they are UHMWPE nor that they have actually any UHMWPE content. So far everything leads us to believe the opposite.
Moving on to Eniigma's kind response,
Here's a list of the known facts:
-Durock is the only known Western distributor for JWK (source: Durock on Alibaba)
-C3 Tangerines have custom molds (source: TKC)
-Durock also has their own molds (source: Durock owns T1, Alpacas, and other molds)
-Durock is not JWK's only customer (source: H1s exist)
-JWK has other customers than Durock (source: H1s)
-Not all JWK molds are accessible by Durock (source: TKC and Durock)
I think it's unreasonable to assume that since Durock is unwilling to put in the time and money for creating a UHWMPE mold (source: I asked them, see screenshot), JWK cannot produce switches with UHWMPE in them.
1, yes
2, claims from the group that stands to benefit and that has provided no proof is not valid, especially since they themselves dont know how much uhmwpe there "could be" in the switches, based on what they said in their discord, it seems any information they have either is not verifiable by any of us including them, or someone is lying, whether it be them or JWK, I am willing to believe nobody is lying, but its hard to trust tkc, and its hard to trust JWK as well, but i dont think they could both be lying if at all.
3, yes, also leopold surprisingly
4, same statement as before, just inverted for some reason
5, yes
Durock *can* produce uhmwpe, they just refuse to, JWK also *can* for sure, no proof thus far if they do or are willing to or not.
Also finally, in the screenshot i posted, they do clearly say in response to my question only about tangerines v2, that "the advertisement by customers are not controlled by us", not sure if theyre expanding the response to include unrelated switches i have never mentioned to them in conversation, but i doubt they would do that.