So this is basically GMK Hydro without the white alphas, correct? Kinda interested from a quick glance on mobile.
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Correct! very different. Hydro have colors as Base GR1 / N9 / N5 and legends V4 / N5 / N9.So this is basically GMK Hydro without the white alphas, correct? Kinda interested from a quick glance on mobile.
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GMK Hydro used N9 not CR.
Do want. Much lots.now not planned because of MOQ. But if many user want, I will try ;D
Would you consider a black on blue mod pack too? (If there is interest)
I know this could have been done with any B*** on B*** set but I kind of like the sound of GMK BobMaybe some point keys will be designed, I will change the name as Signal :D
Been seeing a lot of hate for icon mods. Isn't GMK 9009, pretty much the most sought after set lately, icon mods?
Anyway, needless to say, I like the icon mods :p and I would prefer the base to be N9 though. There's just something about the full N9 sets that make them them look great, such as skidata or terminal.
Here's Hydro for reference:MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/By0kx76.jpg)
I think the mods pop quite well, and it'll still be a different set since you're changing alphas completely.
i'm just gonna leave these here for reference.. this was a gb LZ ran last year. hoping there will be some sort of cross-compatibility with this setOh!! My first GB in geekhack. :DMoreShow Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=82308.0;attach=138381;image)Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=82308.0;attach=138383;image)
Does the mold for R3 1.75u icon control key not exist? Would seem silly to have a text key in a full icon keyset.need to check the mold to GMK. If GMK doesn't have the mold, we have to make a mold and this will be lead to increase cost. I will check.
Been seeing a lot of hate for icon mods. Isn't GMK 9009, pretty much the most sought after set lately, icon mods?N9 is pretty good. But nowdays many sets have been maded by N9 base. I don't want to use N9 in this time.
Anyway, needless to say, I like the icon mods :p and I would prefer the base to be N9 though. There's just something about the full N9 sets that make them them look great, such as skidata or terminal.
Do it nice or do it twice, I always say.Does the mold for R3 1.75u icon control key not exist? Would seem silly to have a text key in a full icon keyset.need to check the mold to GMK. If GMK doesn't have the mold, we have to make a mold and this will be lead to increase cost. I will check.
Been seeing a lot of hate for icon mods. Isn't GMK 9009, pretty much the most sought after set lately, icon mods?
This design is concept of set. I can't give all satisfication for all user. Sorry.Been seeing a lot of hate for icon mods. Isn't GMK 9009, pretty much the most sought after set lately, icon mods?
I don't mind the icon mods, but I hate the bottom row icons. Throw in some Control, Alt, Code/ Windows and Menu keys too.
Icon mods please!!! I've been waiting for a set like this actually :)Don't worry. This set will be maded by Icon modi.
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I'll admit that in the past I was a icon mod detractor but what sold me on this set was seeing the upper icon mods combined with the icon bottom row. Mixed and matched just doesn't look as good.
Any thought of using the icon "fn" that was used in Yuri? I think it would really bring it together.
Not on the Icon mod pack.I'll admit that in the past I was a icon mod detractor but what sold me on this set was seeing the upper icon mods combined with the icon bottom row. Mixed and matched just doesn't look as good.
Any thought of using the icon "fn" that was used in Yuri? I think it would really bring it together.
Yuri had a regular Fn key.
http://i.imgur.com/05TvYiG.png
Not on the Icon mod pack.I'll admit that in the past I was a icon mod detractor but what sold me on this set was seeing the upper icon mods combined with the icon bottom row. Mixed and matched just doesn't look as good.
Any thought of using the icon "fn" that was used in Yuri? I think it would really bring it together.
Yuri had a regular Fn key.
http://i.imgur.com/05TvYiG.pngShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZrGnyvR.jpg)
Icon mods are the best.
Everything else is ㅋㅋㅋㅋ.
Okay, good point.Not on the Icon mod pack.I'll admit that in the past I was a icon mod detractor but what sold me on this set was seeing the upper icon mods combined with the icon bottom row. Mixed and matched just doesn't look as good.
Any thought of using the icon "fn" that was used in Yuri? I think it would really bring it together.
Yuri had a regular Fn key.
http://i.imgur.com/05TvYiG.pngShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZrGnyvR.jpg)
Those are Menu keys.
http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/i/pc_keyboard_menu_key_86821.jpg
I have two things come to mind:1) V4 on CR is little bit dark as your mention. But I think that it is not problem. As you know, real force and happy also dark gray on Black but not problem. I will try to get the Uniqey from GMK but I am not sure to provide it. Color concept will be fixed soon.
1) V4 on CR is a very dark and saturated combination, guess that's a bit difficult. But if you change that and keep the dark/blue theme it would be N9 base or a full "blue Skidata" with N9+N5... a completely different set.
Doesn't GMK offer this exact combination on their Uniqey? How does it look in reality? Any pictures?
2) I love your decision to go with icon mods (and the ISO arrow instead of handbag caps)... except for two: Ctrl and Alt. It's like using a full icon nav cluster. Possible, but really weird.
I like the set, I say stick with v4. Also can you please add a 00 key and a 6u centered spacebar.00 key will be added. Already I requested this to GMK. Regarding 6U centered spacebar, many users want this, I will.
So will the updated version have a blue escape with text "Esc"?Blue esc was deleted because of add the point keycap. But not fixed yet. Still considering including or not.
I'm in, Burgundy was a very well run GB, and I'm a sucker for black + blueDid you receive it? Good. Thanks ;D
I like the new changes, as long as there are spacebars I'll probably buy 2 :DI am always considering. I don't know what is best solution...one full set or separately kit...I will consider it.
I like the new changes, as long as there are spacebars I'll probably buy 2 :DI am always considering. I don't know what is best solution...one full set or separately kit...I will consider it.
So will the updated version have a blue escape with text "Esc"?Blue esc was deleted because of add the point keycap. But not fixed yet. Still considering including or not.
I would like to register my interest as Burgundy was a success, but the R3 Control now seems to be gone from the render :'(
If the R3 Control with the ^ icon legend can't be made, could a full-touch R3 CapsLock still be included?capslock is 2 ea as center stem and offset stem. I think that full-touch R3 capslock means center stem capslock.So will the updated version have a blue escape with text "Esc"?Blue esc was deleted because of add the point keycap. But not fixed yet. Still considering including or not.
Yes, please keep the blue accent "Esc".
Also, if an extra R4 | \ keycap was added, this set would fully support US international on ISO :)
Icon mods. I'm in. Yuri icon mods. I'm double in.Triple in plz. :D
Support for N9 and icon mods!
Why would this be sooo much more than Coniferous? I only see 3 new molds the esc clouds and the 2 sizes of cloud win keys. Coniferous had 173 keys and was only 150 at 150. 135 at 250.Yes, you are right. I have to reduce the novelty keys and some keys. I will updated. And maybe I would have to add the space bar to base and delete the LED keys. It will be helpful to decrease the cost.
Also if it were me I'd drop the kbd lab q and GMK keys. And then if the price was still too high the cloud win keys. The R1 esc novelty alone shouldn't raise moq THAT much. A single custom novelty key run at 150 moq is only like $5 a key. But multiples should be cheaper.
3 molds shouldn't add $25 to the price.
Final version was updated!
Beautiful colors! :thumb: Curious if only doing the 4 necessary keys for ISO, how much does that add to price?
https://imgur.com/a/0Kap6
Beautiful colors! :thumb: Curious if only doing the 4 necessary keys for ISO, how much does that add to price?
https://imgur.com/a/0Kap6
GMK has raised their prices, and the euro has gotten significantly stronger recently, so even a 5 EUR increase can be pretty considerable for people buying with weaker currencies...
For example, KRW or SGD
USD banter incomingI also expect to increase 5euro as total 5 keys(4 ISO+Blue ISO enter). I am sorry for missing ISO keys.
A bit of a shame we had to loose so many keys but it looks like most compatibility is still present. I think the key I’ll miss the most is row3 control but with this being an all icon set I’ll just pretend the caps arrow means control.Sorry for deleting many keys. But I have to consider the price......I also So sad :-[
Looks good! Excited for this group buy.|Many Thanks!!! ;D
I want it, I need it, and I would absolutely get it. I love the use of VR instead of N9, the additional contrast is great imo. Would like to see barred F/J, as well as text icons, but understand that its personal preference, either way I think its amazing!Thanks and if progress, join this! ;D
Oh exciting, I'm glad to see this finalized, when are you thinking about starting the buy for this one?I don't know exactly. But if many members are interesting, meetnthis soon.
Personally I think you can drop the novelties all together and lower price a bit more, or add in iso support.It would make sense to do a swap of novelties for ISO. Novelties don't add compatibility for anyone while ISO will.
Oh no..I also sad. But this decision is to decrease the cost and add other keys.
Novelty key.... :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
This looks good to me :thumb:Thanks!! ;D
Nice on cocobrais! :thumb:Soon..I hope...but in my expectation, I have to find the proxy out of Korea because of exchange rate. If I will progress own control, it will be high price. :(
Is there any estimate when this is going to run? I really like the blue + black combination.
Nice to see ISO and G80-1800 bottom row come back :thumb:
Could the numpad pad printed side legends be changed to doubleshot on the top? I had never seen these numpad side prints until today, and they unfortunately look very cheap. It's even worse than the "SysReq" and "Break" pad prints usually featured on the Scroll Lock and Pause keycaps.
Nice to see ISO and G80-1800 bottom row come back :thumb:Side printing was used in 9009 R1. This is just my concept for this set. As you know, I delete the novelty keys to satisfy many request. Maybe side printing is only remained for my concept. I hope your understanding. :D
Could the numpad pad printed side legends be changed to doubleshot on the top? I had never seen these numpad side prints until today, and they unfortunately look very cheap. It's even worse than the "SysReq" and "Break" pad prints usually featured on the Scroll Lock and Pause keycaps.
I'm a fan of the side printing. Please keep it :DNice to see ISO and G80-1800 bottom row come back :thumb:Side printing was used in 9009 R1. This is just my concept for this set. As you know, I delete the novelty keys to satisfy many request. Maybe side printing is only remained for my concept. I hope your understanding. :D
Could the numpad pad printed side legends be changed to doubleshot on the top? I had never seen these numpad side prints until today, and they unfortunately look very cheap. It's even worse than the "SysReq" and "Break" pad prints usually featured on the Scroll Lock and Pause keycaps.
Nice to see ISO and G80-1800 bottom row come back :thumb:Side printing was used in 9009 R1. This is just my concept for this set. As you know, I delete the novelty keys to satisfy many request. Maybe side printing is only remained for my concept. I hope your understanding. :D
Could the numpad pad printed side legends be changed to doubleshot on the top? I had never seen these numpad side prints until today, and they unfortunately look very cheap. It's even worse than the "SysReq" and "Break" pad prints usually featured on the Scroll Lock and Pause keycaps.
I hope so ;DNice to see ISO and G80-1800 bottom row come back :thumb:Side printing was used in 9009 R1. This is just my concept for this set. As you know, I delete the novelty keys to satisfy many request. Maybe side printing is only remained for my concept. I hope your understanding. :D
Could the numpad pad printed side legends be changed to doubleshot on the top? I had never seen these numpad side prints until today, and they unfortunately look very cheap. It's even worse than the "SysReq" and "Break" pad prints usually featured on the Scroll Lock and Pause keycaps.
I think he’s asking if they can doubleshot the top legend and only print the front legend.
Since you have IC for both this and burgundy, which one will you run first?Original plan is BOB first. Early this week I contacted to make US proxy but nowdays they are so busy. So they can't join this. Also yesterday I contacted to make a proxy for Burgundy in EU side and They accepted it.
Just find the US proxy. Hope to start soon.
Just find the US proxy. Hope to start soon.
Very nice!very closed. But I couldn't find the proxy. So in this set It will be progressed by myself. In next burgundy time, I hope to find the proxy. ^^
Is GB close?
Having missed out on Hydro... I think this will do for me! (':GB starting time is very close. I don't know how many members will join to reach MOQ. But I will try. See you soon.
Having missed out on Hydro... I think this will do for me! (':GB starting time is very close. I don't know how many members will join to reach MOQ. But I will try. See you soon.
Yes, MOQ is 150 set. And in my current plan, if 120 set will be reached by participants, I will absorb the 30 set in my pocket and progress. (not fixed but hope)Having missed out on Hydro... I think this will do for me! (':GB starting time is very close. I don't know how many members will join to reach MOQ. But I will try. See you soon.
MOQ 150 right? Since you use standard color. The color V4 is really underused!
Im new on this hobby. But i really like this keyset.GB will be progressed by myself in geekhack and I will make the form to join. And then if MOQ reached, I will send the paypal invoice.
How will the gb run?
Can't wait for the gb.I will...before 2018. ;D
Please lets start this gb before 2018. :D :thumb:
Are there keyboard cases that looks similar (aluminum or hard plastic) like in the rendered pictures?
Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
US pricing is....base 129usd , led+spacebar 25usd.Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
Is there pricing information available? Sorry, if this has been disclosed previously. I might have missed it.
US pricing is....base 129usd , led+spacebar 25usd.Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
Is there pricing information available? Sorry, if this has been disclosed previously. I might have missed it.
Isn’t icon mods the only option?US pricing is....base 129usd , led+spacebar 25usd.Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
Is there pricing information available? Sorry, if this has been disclosed previously. I might have missed it.
And the Icon Modi Kit?
Isn’t icon mods the only option?US pricing is....base 129usd , led+spacebar 25usd.Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
Is there pricing information available? Sorry, if this has been disclosed previously. I might have missed it.
And the Icon Modi Kit?
As you know, this set alreadt has Yuri Icon modi. Maybe this is your favor..^^Isn’t icon mods the only option?US pricing is....base 129usd , led+spacebar 25usd.Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
Is there pricing information available? Sorry, if this has been disclosed previously. I might have missed it.
And the Icon Modi Kit?
My bad, I am sorry, I got confused with Burgandy R2 that has the Icon Kit.
As you know, this set alreadt has Yuri Icon modi. Maybe this is your favor..^^Isn’t icon mods the only option?US pricing is....base 129usd , led+spacebar 25usd.Just waiting the GB approval. ;D
Is there pricing information available? Sorry, if this has been disclosed previously. I might have missed it.
And the Icon Modi Kit?
My bad, I am sorry, I got confused with Burgandy R2 that has the Icon Kit.
I want in on this set maybe just to get the windowed capslock that will work on my Hydro set as well. :))Now I have been waiting approval of GB. :D
I want in on this set maybe just to get the windowed capslock that will work on my Hydro set as well. :))
A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :P
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :P
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
I think the issue is that Yuri didn't include a R3 chevron ctrl key, so no legend plate exists for R3, so it would be like a novelty and cost extra.
A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :P
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
I think the issue is that Yuri didn't include a R3 chevron ctrl key, so no legend plate exists for R3, so it would be like a novelty and cost extra.
The R3 control mold and its legend (text version) existsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dPvl4ux.jpg)
I am a user of control in place of the shift lock, but I do not think that an R3 with text legend goes well with a full icon set, therefore I support the designer decision to not include such key in the set.
Edit: I regret that some individuals consider its omission a reason enough to let a classic set like this to pass. While I understand that in her mind a "perfect" set is the one that meets all her personal requirements, she should consider that the set should follow a logic, in this case, having a full set of icons for the modifiers, thus, perfect in this framework is a set with only icons as legends for the mods.
A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :P
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
I think the issue is that Yuri didn't include a R3 chevron ctrl key, so no legend plate exists for R3, so it would be like a novelty and cost extra.
The R3 control mold and its legend (text version) existsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dPvl4ux.jpg)
I am a user of control in place of the shift lock, but I do not think that an R3 with text legend goes well with a full icon set, therefore I support the designer decision to not include such key in the set.
Edit: I regret that some individuals consider its omission a reason enough to let a classic set like this to pass. While I understand that in her mind a "perfect" set is the one that meets all her personal requirements, she should consider that the set should follow a logic, in this case, having a full set of icons for the modifiers, thus, perfect in this framework is a set with only icons as legends for the mods.
A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :P
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
I think the issue is that Yuri didn't include a R3 chevron ctrl key, so no legend plate exists for R3, so it would be like a novelty and cost extra.
The R3 control mold and its legend (text version) existsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dPvl4ux.jpg)
I am a user of control in place of the shift lock, but I do not think that an R3 with text legend goes well with a full icon set, therefore I support the designer decision to not include such key in the set.
Edit: I regret that some individuals consider its omission a reason enough to let a classic set like this to pass. While I understand that in her mind a "perfect" set is the one that meets all her personal requirements, she should consider that the set should follow a logic, in this case, having a full set of icons for the modifiers, thus, perfect in this framework is a set with only icons as legends for the mods.
I'm a he. I do understand the logic. But if I am to spend a significant amount of money on something, I rather spend it on something that makes sense for me and the usage I will give it. If the only option I have for that key is something related to caps lock, oh well... :rolleyes: I'm not a huge fan of this icon bottom row anyway even if I do appreciate the overall aesthetics of this set :) "Perfect" is mostly subjective, most of the time.
Thanks for your good feedback.A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :P
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
I think the issue is that Yuri didn't include a R3 chevron ctrl key, so no legend plate exists for R3, so it would be like a novelty and cost extra.
The R3 control mold and its legend (text version) existsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dPvl4ux.jpg)
I am a user of control in place of the shift lock, but I do not think that an R3 with text legend goes well with a full icon set, therefore I support the designer decision to not include such key in the set.
Edit: I regret that some individuals consider its omission a reason enough to let a classic set like this to pass. While I understand that in her mind a "perfect" set is the one that meets all her personal requirements, she should consider that the set should follow a logic, in this case, having a full set of icons for the modifiers, thus, perfect in this framework is a set with only icons as legends for the mods.
I'm a he. I do understand the logic. But if I am to spend a significant amount of money on something, I rather spend it on something that makes sense for me and the usage I will give it. If the only option I have for that key is something related to caps lock, oh well... :rolleyes: I'm not a huge fan of this icon bottom row anyway even if I do appreciate the overall aesthetics of this set :) "Perfect" is mostly subjective, most of the time.
I apologize for the gender bender, I meant she as in a persona, or individual. I agree that perfection is the eyes of the beholder, but here, the designer's choices should stick to a particular concept and as I said, I really regret people dropping a nice set like this because of a small detail. I am pretty sure they will regret not having it. People may become tired quickly due to strident color combinations as some other recent sets, or be ashamed to exhibit such colors at work, but a black based set is always elegant and you will never be tired of seeing at it.
Edit: I really liked the original ideas of having Control as a side printed option, but I know many here sincerely hate the side printing. If you are a HHKB user you may want to wait for the upcoming Coco's happy set, that covers that layout, by the way, I think that there the side printed Control was also dropped. I really like the icon mods so with the many options Coco is offered now I should make my mind regarding which buys I will join.
Thanks for your good feedback.A real shame R3 Control isn't included :( Other icon-heavy sets have included it for completion (Cyan, 9009, hyperfuse redux) which really makes sense.
I guess I'm staying away from this one if my layout can't be perfect :p
EDIT: replaced "only" with "heavy"
I think the issue is that Yuri didn't include a R3 chevron ctrl key, so no legend plate exists for R3, so it would be like a novelty and cost extra.
The R3 control mold and its legend (text version) existsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dPvl4ux.jpg)
I am a user of control in place of the shift lock, but I do not think that an R3 with text legend goes well with a full icon set, therefore I support the designer decision to not include such key in the set.
Edit: I regret that some individuals consider its omission a reason enough to let a classic set like this to pass. While I understand that in her mind a "perfect" set is the one that meets all her personal requirements, she should consider that the set should follow a logic, in this case, having a full set of icons for the modifiers, thus, perfect in this framework is a set with only icons as legends for the mods.
I'm a he. I do understand the logic. But if I am to spend a significant amount of money on something, I rather spend it on something that makes sense for me and the usage I will give it. If the only option I have for that key is something related to caps lock, oh well... ::) I'm not a huge fan of this icon bottom row anyway even if I do appreciate the overall aesthetics of this set :) "Perfect" is mostly subjective, most of the time.
I apologize for the gender bender, I meant she as in a persona, or individual. I agree that perfection is the eyes of the beholder, but here, the designer's choices should stick to a particular concept and as I said, I really regret people dropping a nice set like this because of a small detail. I am pretty sure they will regret not having it. People may become tired quickly due to strident color combinations as some other recent sets, or be ashamed to exhibit such colors at work, but a black based set is always elegant and you will never be tired of seeing at it.
Edit: I really liked the original ideas of having Control as a side printed option, but I know many here sincerely hate the side printing. If you are a HHKB user you may want to wait for the upcoming Coco's happy set, that covers that layout, by the way, I think that there the side printed Control was also dropped. I really like the icon mods so with the many options Coco is offered now I should make my mind regarding which buys I will join.
I have been watch the drop(or just reach min MOQ) of black based set but I also think that black based set is very nice. We have to think why we love the 9009 set? 9009 set is not gorgeous and just simple design but not tired. This has basic color combination using OG cherry design and black based set with white legends also basic color combination. Just my design is blue legends on black based and I believe that blue legends will give a modern feel than OG cherry design. (Also YURI Icon)
As you mentioned before, in design history, I put the R3 control keys in base set. But this was not matched in full Icon design specially Yuri Icon. Many users see the Burgundy R2 Modi Kit. Its R3 control side pad printing was also deleted because of same reason. Just HHKB set is including R3 control side printing because this set has also tab side printing. If not considered tab side printing, maybe R3 control side printing of this set also deleted.
Always I have been considering designs to give a satisfactions to many users but it is so hard.
Currently I requested the approval GB and still waiting and I believe this set will hit MOQ 150. (FYI, I plan to make this set as only 150 set. limited qty.)
How long will the GB run?End of this year. You can find information on main page more details.
Thanks, I forgot to check the first post for updates.No problem! I hope that this set is your favor set. ;D
Just ordered. :thumb:Thanks! Very fast!
Thanks, I forgot to check the first post for updates.No problem! I hope that this set is your favor set. ;D
Ordered both! :thumb: ;DMany thanks for your participating! I hope that Moq will be reached as soon as possible and order to GMK as fast as possible!!!
The waiting game begins! :))
Thanks cocobrais for this awesome set.
Just wondering if the moq is 150 in total or 150 per gb host?Total 150 set.
Just wondering if the moq is 150 in total or 150 per gb host?Total 150 set.
I want in on this set maybe just to get the windowed capslock that will work on my Hydro set as well. :))
Isn’t hydro N9?
Any update on # of sets sold?number have been updated in GB page. (First reply) and maybe today I will.
Bought in for base and extras!Very good! Thanks!!
Will we be able to achieve our moq?I don't know yet. Just consider to extend the GB period as 1 week.
Will we be able to achieve our moq?I don't know yet. Just consider to extend the GB period as 1 week.