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Title: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: glubazoid on Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:58:05
Hey! Just gauging if there's enough interest to run a R0 and R5 kit for those who want the full cherry profile.

These are going to be for Retro (Classic retro, 9009, retro Cyrillic, 1800 double shots etc.) and WoB (Originative, Massdrop, 1800 doubleshots, etc).

Update 07/31/19:

With the kits being this large, and most people owning either WoB or A retro set, I've decided to split this into two kits (would be easier on your wallets too).

Current vendor has some projects on their plate- but I'm working to finalize kits, which is getting close. Looks like R0 delete key is a popular option, as well as additional 1800 support.

Update 06/11/19:

Please fill out this Interest form! (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScpmuWhKg60GmEAq1JvQ4B8RqcPsqH4fLtKln-IOMHb_xnCyg/viewform?usp=sf_link)


Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wq6Gq7I.jpg)

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(https://i.imgur.com/16QeffI.jpg)

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Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: bisoromi on Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:59:18
yes
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:59:53
yes
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:01:29
yes
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:02:24
yes

Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: appaboy on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:03:05
yes



Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:03:51
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:09:00
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:20:42
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?

Personally, I do think that adding the R5 1.25u keys (2x Ctrl, 2x Super, 2x Alt, 1x Fn) and the 1u keys (2x Super) would be smart. It gives these classic sets immense compatibility in R5 bottom row -- with 65%/75%/1800-CP, etc.

Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:24:50
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?

Personally, I do think that adding the R5 1.25u keys (2x Ctrl, 2x Super, 2x Alt, 1x Fn) and the 1u keys (2x Super) would be smart. It gives these classic sets immense compatibility in R5 bottom row -- with 65%/75%/1800-CP, etc.
75%/1800 support would complicate matters - r0 versions of nav cluster etc. that said, i'd be down for that.

Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Genuine question, why not? :o
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:27:37
Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Genuine question, why not? :o

Well, considering this is an add-on kit for, say, a GMK Classic Retro, GMK KA1953, GMK 9009 (R1/R2), GMK Originative (without R5), GMK White on Black Massdrop edition,... you'd probably already have the 6.25u and 7u spacebars.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:30:27
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?

Personally, I do think that adding the R5 1.25u keys (2x Ctrl, 2x Super, 2x Alt, 1x Fn) and the 1u keys (2x Super) would be smart. It gives these classic sets immense compatibility in R5 bottom row -- with 65%/75%/1800-CP, etc.
75%/1800 support would complicate matters - r0 versions of nav cluster etc. that said, i'd be down for that.

Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Genuine question, why not? :o

Didn't even think about 65-75% boards! Adding that compatibility would mean I'd be adding 30ish (?) keys total For the 1800 top row and the 1.25 R5 keys effectively bringing this kit to around 100 keys.

I might just consider adding R5 keys instead of worrying about 1800 R0 compatibility.

Spacebars are the same
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:31:09
ah okay, i figured there might be r5 spacebars
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:43:21
N9 and CC would be nice too.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: spyruf on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:54:36
yes
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:59:49
N9 and CC would be nice too.

I thought so too. Just not sure if one should do all 3 colorways at once.

Didn't even think about 65-75% boards! Adding that compatibility would mean I'd be adding 30ish (?) keys total For the 1800 top row and the 1.25 R5 keys effectively bringing this kit to around 100 keys.

I might just consider adding R5 keys instead of worrying about 1800 R0 compatibility.

Spacebars are the same

Yeah, I think R0 compatibility adds a whole lot more keys because of 1800 and the extra columns in other layouts.

I think keeping this to R5-only might be a way to keep it cheap. Personally, I found R0 to be a bit slanted and too tall.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:00:53
+1 on N9/CC
I'd be very conservative on expanding key coverage.  Maybe add 2 x R5 1u
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:05:28
(https://i.imgur.com/cbsRAeH.jpg)

Here's an edited version of the Umka Modifiers I grabbed from GMK Carbon R2 for guidance to the OP for what keys may be relevant.

And two keys that I forgot: 1u 0 key, and 1u 00 key.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Delirious on Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:40:57
Interested,

I also will be that guy, knowing full well it is WKL TKL support only, but what are the chances to include the 3 nav keys for 1800 as well?
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 06 June 2019, 21:41:52
Yes.

Double yes if there's 1.25u R5 involved.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Fri, 07 June 2019, 00:44:29
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cbsRAeH.jpg)


Here's an edited version of the Umka Modifiers I grabbed from GMK Carbon R2 for guidance to the OP for what keys may be relevant.

And two keys that I forgot: 1u 0 key, and 1u 00 key.

Thanks! I'll look into the possibility of adding some of these.

Interested,

I also will be that guy, knowing full well it is WKL TKL support only, but what are the chances to include the 3 nav keys for 1800 as well?

I'm debating whether I should add more keys to support 1800/ odd layouts. I'm waiting for GMK for pricing, I don't want to add too much to raise prices.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: catamscott on Fri, 07 June 2019, 01:21:06
100% down for this
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: dorf on Fri, 07 June 2019, 01:59:19
Yes, please. I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Applet on Fri, 07 June 2019, 02:04:57
Yes!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: t8c on Fri, 07 June 2019, 02:45:06
Absolutely
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: ramblinrose on Fri, 07 June 2019, 08:18:18
Cool idea - especially if you add in the 6.25 /1.25 mods, and maybe 2 1u mods as well. It's probably not the intention for the set, but the 65% right side nav would be cool to include (r2 pg up, r3 pg dn, fn r4) as well if it doesn't add much cost.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Applet on Fri, 07 June 2019, 09:25:42
Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: NRbigfoot on Fri, 07 June 2019, 09:29:07
Interested with the added R5 support
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: ramblinrose on Fri, 07 June 2019, 09:29:49
Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

The 6.25 / 1.25 R5 molds were recently made for gmk carbon r2. No other set has put them to use though as far as I know.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 07 June 2019, 10:28:17
I am very interested in the compatibility offered by the edited Umka version posted by LightningXI. Having 1.25u & 1u mods is good for my 1800/75%/65% boards.

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Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Fri, 07 June 2019, 12:08:04
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wq6Gq7I.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 June 2019, 12:09:44
Please change that Alt Gr to Alt. There are plenty of R5 beige Alt Gr's out there :))

Could also consider using the old Windows logos for 1.25 keys if you want a really classic look.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/668/20291772604_b254b8e067_h.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Fri, 07 June 2019, 12:18:54
Please change that Alt Gr to Alt. There are plenty of R5 beige Alt Gr's out there :))

Could also consider using the old Windows logos for 1.25 keys if you want a really classic look.

Show Image
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/668/20291772604_b254b8e067_h.jpg)


Are those Alt Gr's doubleshot or dyesub?

I'm still trying to get in contact with GMK, but I wouldn't want new molds made to keep prices low. I know Carbon ran a 1.25 "Alt" and not "Alt Gr" so I know those molds are already created. If GMK confirms that they already have that mold, then I'd much rather have that as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Zurg Eon on Fri, 07 June 2019, 14:55:01
In. I would prefer to keep the Alt Gr key if they already have molds for it.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 07 June 2019, 15:27:36
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Wq6Gq7I.jpg)

good change, nice

I don't really have an opinion on alt vs alt gr

to confirm, are both colourways one kit or are they separate?
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 07 June 2019, 15:53:10
Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

Pls no diamond keys, they look terrible in contrast to the other text legends. They belong in an icon modifier pack imo.

Liking the additions so far, especially the 1.5 fn.
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Fri, 07 June 2019, 16:06:01
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Wq6Gq7I.jpg)

good change, nice

I don't really have an opinion on alt vs alt gr

to confirm, are both colourways one kit or are they separate?

They'll be in one kit. Might be difficult hitting MOQ if split. And I'm assuming most people who are interested in this own or would want to own these colorways  :)

Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

Pls no diamond keys, they look terrible in contrast to the other text legends. They belong in an icon modifier pack imo.

Liking the additions so far, especially the 1.5 fn.

Lol, no diamond icons.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 07 June 2019, 19:46:37
Are those Alt Gr's doubleshot or dyesub?

I'm still trying to get in contact with GMK, but I wouldn't want new molds made to keep prices low. I know Carbon ran a 1.25 "Alt" and not "Alt Gr" so I know those molds are already created. If GMK confirms that they already have that mold, then I'd much rather have that as well.  :thumb:
There are tonnes of dyesub and doubleshot OG Cherry boards in German layout, all of which have R5 1.5 Alt Gr.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Fri, 07 June 2019, 23:43:52
Are those Alt Gr's doubleshot or dyesub?

I'm still trying to get in contact with GMK, but I wouldn't want new molds made to keep prices low. I know Carbon ran a 1.25 "Alt" and not "Alt Gr" so I know those molds are already created. If GMK confirms that they already have that mold, then I'd much rather have that as well.  :thumb:
There are tonnes of dyesub and doubleshot OG Cherry boards in German layout, all of which have R5 1.5 Alt Gr.

Sweet, a 1.5u Alt Gr was always the plan!
Title: Re: [IC] WKL TKL R0 // R5 Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 07 June 2019, 23:54:42
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Wq6Gq7I.jpg)

good change, nice

I don't really have an opinion on alt vs alt gr

to confirm, are both colourways one kit or are they separate?

They'll be in one kit. Might be difficult hitting MOQ if split. And I'm assuming most people who are interested in this own or would want to own these colorways  :)

Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

Pls no diamond keys, they look terrible in contrast to the other text legends. They belong in an icon modifier pack imo.

Liking the additions so far, especially the 1.5 fn.

Lol, no diamond icons.

Feels bad

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Compose_key_on_Sun_Type_5c_keyboard.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: OracleKev on Sat, 08 June 2019, 00:04:25
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Wq6Gq7I.jpg)


Yikes!  Hope it doesn't become too expensive!
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: dorf on Sat, 08 June 2019, 02:41:36
Please include ALT GR. Mixing a new set from GMK with old keys from old Cherry boards does not look nice. Also, the WoB sets that are being sold today use WS1 as white instead of L9 or what the old sets used.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: rondg on Sat, 08 June 2019, 05:47:53
Icon mods? ;D
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: Captain Shwah on Sat, 08 June 2019, 09:14:14
Icon mods? ;D

pls no
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: rondg on Sat, 08 June 2019, 12:12:40
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: thelaughingman on Sat, 08 June 2019, 16:26:07
Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Sat, 08 June 2019, 20:16:02
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way

Did you mean bottom row Icon mods? If so, I don't think I'd want to go that route :) It'd be difficult to create another kit and hit MOQ for that.

Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better

I was heavily considering Dolch as well, but adding that would bring the kit up to 113 keys :(
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: OracleKev on Sat, 08 June 2019, 21:27:56
Rough estimate on pricing?  It might be worthwhile to get some community feedback in advance.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 08 June 2019, 21:58:19
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way

Did you mean bottom row Icon mods? If so, I don't think I'd want to go that route :) It'd be difficult to create another kit and hit MOQ for that.

Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better

I was heavily considering Dolch as well, but adding that would bring the kit up to 113 keys :(

Needs Dolch regardless of price.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Sat, 08 June 2019, 23:29:45
Rough estimate on pricing?  It might be worthwhile to get some community feedback in advance.

GMK still hasn't gotten back to me on pricing, I'll give it a couple days to follow up.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: thelaughingman on Sun, 09 June 2019, 00:52:17
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way

Did you mean bottom row Icon mods? If so, I don't think I'd want to go that route :) It'd be difficult to create another kit and hit MOQ for that.

Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better

I was heavily considering Dolch as well, but adding that would bring the kit up to 113 keys :(

don't need to bloat the kit anymore. Actually I think it might be better if you run just the beige key, then the WoB/Dolch on the 2nd and 3rd run. That way the kit is minimised, prices should be lower and people don't feel like they waste half the set
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 09 June 2019, 06:18:04
don't need to bloat the kit anymore. Actually I think it might be better if you run just the beige key, then the WoB/Dolch on the 2nd and 3rd run. That way the kit is minimised, prices should be lower and people don't feel like they waste half the set

That's close to what I was going to ask right now - would it be feasible to have two separate kits (three if Dolch should be added) on the GB? I'd be all over the beige but wouldn't care for the WoB, for example, and this way I wouldn't need to put half the set away.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Sun, 09 June 2019, 13:14:28
don't need to bloat the kit anymore. Actually I think it might be better if you run just the beige key, then the WoB/Dolch on the 2nd and 3rd run. That way the kit is minimised, prices should be lower and people don't feel like they waste half the set

That's close to what I was going to ask right now - would it be feasible to have two separate kits (three if Dolch should be added) on the GB? I'd be all over the beige but wouldn't care for the WoB, for example, and this way I wouldn't need to put half the set away.

I was considering this, but I'm worried that, individually, they won't make MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: dorf on Sun, 09 June 2019, 13:17:10
don't need to bloat the kit anymore. Actually I think it might be better if you run just the beige key, then the WoB/Dolch on the 2nd and 3rd run. That way the kit is minimised, prices should be lower and people don't feel like they waste half the set

That's close to what I was going to ask right now - would it be feasible to have two separate kits (three if Dolch should be added) on the GB? I'd be all over the beige but wouldn't care for the WoB, for example, and this way I wouldn't need to put half the set away.

I was considering this, but I'm worried that, individually, they won't make MOQ.

I'm quite sure these things will sort themselves on classifieds.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Sun, 09 June 2019, 13:18:15
My thoughts as well, if you don't want it. Someone will!
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: RETURNISO on Mon, 10 June 2019, 16:03:18
Very ready!  :thumb:

Edit. Whats the color for the beige kit?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 10 June 2019, 20:22:28
Very ready!  :thumb:

Edit. Whats the color for the beige kit?

Hopefully L9 and U9 or this whole thing is a bust.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Mon, 10 June 2019, 23:13:40
Very ready!  :thumb:

Edit. Whats the color for the beige kit?

Hopefully L9 and U9 or this whole thing is a bust.

It's using custom RGB codes that I personally chose.

Just kidding, L9 and U9 of course LOL
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: spyruf on Mon, 10 June 2019, 23:34:52
I feel like the beige is definitely more popular than the black and things won't really sort themselves in the second hand market because anyone that wants this set will be sure to buy it just in case.

In my opinion it would be wise to take a strawpoll or google form to see how much interest there really is in L9 vs U9.

Based on my assumption that L9 is more popular and that it will be able to meet MOQ on it's own, I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

that's my 2 cents, a poll would definitely help to get more concrete info.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: OracleKev on Mon, 10 June 2019, 23:59:51
I feel like the beige is definitely more popular than the black and things won't really sort themselves in the second hand market because anyone that wants this set will be sure to buy it just in case.

In my opinion it would be wise to take a strawpoll or google form to see how much interest there really is in L9 vs U9.

Based on my assumption that L9 is more popular and that it will be able to meet MOQ on it's own, I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

that's my 2 cents, a poll would definitely help to get more concrete info.

wut? mods are U9 and alphas are L9.  It's not L9 vs U9.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: jordowag on Tue, 11 June 2019, 00:12:46
count me in on this! love my beige colors :)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 11 June 2019, 07:02:23
I feel like the beige is definitely more popular than the black and things won't really sort themselves in the second hand market because anyone that wants this set will be sure to buy it just in case.

In my opinion it would be wise to take a strawpoll or google form to see how much interest there really is in L9 vs U9.

Based on my assumption that L9 is more popular and that it will be able to meet MOQ on it's own, I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

that's my 2 cents, a poll would definitely help to get more concrete info.

wut? mods are U9 and alphas are L9.  It's not L9 vs U9.  :eek:

Pretty sure they mean L9 + U9 vs CR, but even then i'm pretty sure they're wrong. WoB is an incredibly popular colourway, it's essentially standard.

Would be nice to confirm the legend colour for the WoB, since newer sets use WS1 but apparently earlier sets might use something different?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 11 June 2019, 07:37:13
I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout. Drop the whole unfair shtick, if you feel there's something in a kit you don't need and it's "unfair", you might want to look towards other hobbies.

I think this kit fills many voids in compatibility, and Beige (L9 and U9) and WoB (CR) are both pretty darn popular colors spanning many different decades.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Tue, 11 June 2019, 22:59:06
I feel like the beige is definitely more popular than the black and things won't really sort themselves in the second hand market because anyone that wants this set will be sure to buy it just in case.

In my opinion it would be wise to take a strawpoll or google form to see how much interest there really is in L9 vs U9.

Based on my assumption that L9 is more popular and that it will be able to meet MOQ on it's own, I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

that's my 2 cents, a poll would definitely help to get more concrete info.

wut? mods are U9 and alphas are L9.  It's not L9 vs U9.  :eek:

Pretty sure they mean L9 + U9 vs CR, but even then i'm pretty sure they're wrong. WoB is an incredibly popular colourway, it's essentially standard.

Would be nice to confirm the legend colour for the WoB, since newer sets use WS1 but apparently earlier sets might use something different?

I'll be using WS1 for WoB, idea is that if someone wants to try out the profile, they could purchase this kit along with GMK Classic retro and WoB/ Originative- which are readily available right now.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Tue, 11 June 2019, 23:24:01
Update 06/11/19:


Please fill out this Interest form! (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScpmuWhKg60GmEAq1JvQ4B8RqcPsqH4fLtKln-IOMHb_xnCyg/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 12 June 2019, 12:41:31
I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout.

You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Wed, 12 June 2019, 12:48:28
I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout.

You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

Percentage-wise sure, but that's not on the same scale. This is a relatively small set, so the cost will be smaller accordingly.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 12 June 2019, 12:52:24
I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout.

You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

Percentage-wise sure, but that's not on the same scale. This is a relatively small set, so the cost will be smaller accordingly.

Of course, but it IS a factor to take into account instead of offhandedly discarding it.

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Wed, 12 June 2019, 15:26:10
I feel like the beige is definitely more popular than the black and things won't really sort themselves in the second hand market because anyone that wants this set will be sure to buy it just in case.

In my opinion it would be wise to take a strawpoll or google form to see how much interest there really is in L9 vs U9.

Based on my assumption that L9 is more popular and that it will be able to meet MOQ on it's own, I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

that's my 2 cents, a poll would definitely help to get more concrete info.

My worry is that it won't meet MOQ on it's own. Splitting the kits up eventually lead me to having two separate MOQ's which is more difficult to reach than one. There is enough interest for WoB AND Beige, according to the interest check I put up, its pretty much 50/50.

I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout.

You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

Unlike other GMK kits, you can most definitely split this up and sell it aftermarket. It's not like a 60% user purchasing a GMK set and selling off the other keys they don't use.

People always miss group buys, there is always a second hand market.

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: eskimojo on Wed, 12 June 2019, 16:27:44
Unlike other GMK kits, you can most definitely split this up and sell it aftermarket. It's not like a 60% user purchasing a GMK set and selling off the other keys they don't use.

People always miss group buys, there is always a second hand market.

Agreed - I'm planning to go halves with a friend who has GMK 9009 (and I have WoB)  :D
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 13 June 2019, 04:30:53
Very ready!  :thumb:

Edit. Whats the color for the beige kit?

Hopefully L9 and U9 or this whole thing is a bust.

It's using custom RGB codes that I personally chose.

Just kidding, L9 and U9 of course LOL

Does that match "hellgrau" ?

OK, i know its a long shot since you guys are already talking about splitting kits n lowering cost etc ^-^

But, but can we please add support for Alcatel caps? Would be freaking superior  :cool:

Am i not to sure about the colors atm but can figure that out. The hellgrau of some sort, does someone here know the GMK color match for them?

basic support, i think it would just need these

R1: 2u Backspace
R4: 1.75u Right Shift, 1u FN
R5: 1.5u ( Left Alt ), 1u ( Left GUI ), 1.5u ( Right Alt ) 1u ( Right GUI ), 1.75u Right Shift


Optional
ISO Enter
Ansi Enter

Anyway i am definitely not splitting my loot :p

Edit.

For full Alcatel support ANSI & ISO should be this + 7u spacebar  :p
[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 14 June 2019, 05:46:39
Very interested
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 14 June 2019, 19:36:06
But, but can we please add support for Alcatel caps? Would be freaking superior  :cool:

Am i not to sure about the colors atm but can figure that out. The hellgrau of some sort, does someone here know the GMK color match for them?

basic support, i think it would just need these

R1: 2u Backspace
R4: 1.75u Right Shift, 1u FN
R5: 1.5u ( Left Alt ), 1u ( Left GUI ), 1.5u ( Right Alt ) 1u ( Right GUI ), 1.75u Right Shift


Optional
ISO Enter
Ansi Enter

Anyway i am definitely not splitting my loot :p

Edit.

For full Alcatel support ANSI & ISO should be this + 7u spacebar  :p
(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

An Alcatel set is sufficiently different to warrant a separate GB, with its own color, and its own set of key caps (tailored to the MMX with minimal losses). So it should be the keys in your graphic, plus 2U numpad 0, numpad comma, numpad period (those in R4), R3 Tab, R2-3 numpad+ (plus a R1 = key because I say so). Perhaps an R2 1.5U Backspace key as well, because why not.

IMHO. YMMV. WDIKAA. And I'll take two sets of this, please!
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 15 June 2019, 08:51:34
But, but can we please add support for Alcatel caps? Would be freaking superior  :cool:

Am i not to sure about the colors atm but can figure that out. The hellgrau of some sort, does someone here know the GMK color match for them?

basic support, i think it would just need these

R1: 2u Backspace
R4: 1.75u Right Shift, 1u FN
R5: 1.5u ( Left Alt ), 1u ( Left GUI ), 1.5u ( Right Alt ) 1u ( Right GUI ), 1.75u Right Shift


Optional
ISO Enter
Ansi Enter

Anyway i am definitely not splitting my loot :p

Edit.

For full Alcatel support ANSI & ISO should be this + 7u spacebar  :p
(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

An Alcatel set is sufficiently different to warrant a separate GB, with its own color, and its own set of key caps (tailored to the MMX with minimal losses). So it should be the keys in your graphic, plus 2U numpad 0, numpad comma, numpad period (those in R4), R3 Tab, R2-3 numpad+ (plus a R1 = key because I say so). Perhaps an R2 1.5U Backspace key as well, because why not.

IMHO. YMMV. WDIKAA. And I'll take two sets of this, please!

Would love to take 2 kits as well :D

[attach=1]

I rather have it included in in this GB, Trim some keys down to only support WKL / Tsangan layout as it already contains 2x R5 1.5u "ctrl" keys.
Use a accent or reg OG ANSI/ISO Enter ( To keep it minimum ), cross fingers OP thinks its a good idea. :)

Imho, i rather pay the extra $$$ to gain 3 new sets in one go.
If the majority of the buyers only have 1 OG set ( OG WoB / OG beige ). I totally get why this just have to be slimmed down and people can slit the kit etc. :)

Here is a shot where i use the alcatel alphas with 9009 mods. Its a HS60 pcb, locked to 6.25 bottom row. Cry, but aleast i get to use the OG spacebar  ^-^
[attach=2]
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: dorf on Sun, 16 June 2019, 03:11:54
On my old OG-set from G80-1000 the sys rq on the prt sc key is pad printed green. Will you do this also?

(https://i.imgur.com/4FDzn0U.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: glubazoid on Sun, 16 June 2019, 23:21:04
But, but can we please add support for Alcatel caps? Would be freaking superior  :cool:

Am i not to sure about the colors atm but can figure that out. The hellgrau of some sort, does someone here know the GMK color match for them?

basic support, i think it would just need these

R1: 2u Backspace
R4: 1.75u Right Shift, 1u FN
R5: 1.5u ( Left Alt ), 1u ( Left GUI ), 1.5u ( Right Alt ) 1u ( Right GUI ), 1.75u Right Shift


Optional
ISO Enter
Ansi Enter

Anyway i am definitely not splitting my loot :p

Edit.

For full Alcatel support ANSI & ISO should be this + 7u spacebar  :p
(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

An Alcatel set is sufficiently different to warrant a separate GB, with its own color, and its own set of key caps (tailored to the MMX with minimal losses). So it should be the keys in your graphic, plus 2U numpad 0, numpad comma, numpad period (those in R4), R3 Tab, R2-3 numpad+ (plus a R1 = key because I say so). Perhaps an R2 1.5U Backspace key as well, because why not.

IMHO. YMMV. WDIKAA. And I'll take two sets of this, please!

Would love to take 2 kits as well :D

(Attachment Link)

I rather have it included in in this GB, Trim some keys down to only support WKL / Tsangan layout as it already contains 2x R5 1.5u "ctrl" keys.
Use a accent or reg OG ANSI/ISO Enter ( To keep it minimum ), cross fingers OP thinks its a good idea. :)

Imho, i rather pay the extra $$$ to gain 3 new sets in one go.
If the majority of the buyers only have 1 OG set ( OG WoB / OG beige ). I totally get why this just have to be slimmed down and people can slit the kit etc. :)

Here is a shot where i use the alcatel alphas with 9009 mods. Its a HS60 pcb, locked to 6.25 bottom row. Cry, but aleast i get to use the OG spacebar  ^-^
(Attachment Link)

Unfortunately, the main goal of this set is to just have the top and bottom R0 and R5 rows :)

On my old OG-set from G80-1000 the sys rq on the prt sc key is pad printed green. Will you do this also?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4FDzn0U.jpg)


That's my intent. I have classic retro and I dig the look
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: spyruf on Sun, 16 June 2019, 23:59:34


Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout. Drop the whole unfair shtick, if you feel there's something in a kit you don't need and it's "unfair", you might want to look towards other hobbies.

I think this kit fills many voids in compatibility, and Beige (L9 and U9) and WoB (CR) are both pretty darn popular colors spanning many different decades.

I'm aware almost every kit has extra keys for compatibility. Maybe unfair wasn't the right word but it made most sense to me to have the kits separate. The main reasoning behind that was that most extra keys don't account for half the kit itself.

However, it seems glubazoid has done his research and decided having it in one kit is the best option.


You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

Basically this ^


My worry is that it won't meet MOQ on it's own. Splitting the kits up eventually lead me to having two separate MOQ's which is more difficult to reach than one. There is enough interest for WoB AND Beige, according to the interest check I put up, its pretty much 50/50.

...

Unlike other GMK kits, you can most definitely split this up and sell it aftermarket. It's not like a 60% user purchasing a GMK set and selling off the other keys they don't use.

People always miss group buys, there is always a second hand market.

Out of curiosity what is MOQ / price breakdowns if they are separate vs together (from what I've heard GMK is heavily biased towards larger kits compared to SP).
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: glubazoid on Mon, 17 June 2019, 00:07:47


Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout. Drop the whole unfair shtick, if you feel there's something in a kit you don't need and it's "unfair", you might want to look towards other hobbies.

I think this kit fills many voids in compatibility, and Beige (L9 and U9) and WoB (CR) are both pretty darn popular colors spanning many different decades.

I'm aware almost every kit has extra keys for compatibility. Maybe unfair wasn't the right word but it made most sense to me to have the kits separate. The main reasoning behind that was that most extra keys don't account for half the kit itself.

However, it seems glubazoid has done his research and decided having it in one kit is the best option.


You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

Basically this ^


My worry is that it won't meet MOQ on it's own. Splitting the kits up eventually lead me to having two separate MOQ's which is more difficult to reach than one. There is enough interest for WoB AND Beige, according to the interest check I put up, its pretty much 50/50.

...

Unlike other GMK kits, you can most definitely split this up and sell it aftermarket. It's not like a 60% user purchasing a GMK set and selling off the other keys they don't use.

People always miss group buys, there is always a second hand market.

Out of curiosity what is MOQ / price breakdowns if they are separate vs together (from what I've heard GMK is heavily biased towards larger kits compared to SP).

Since these are stock GMK colors, MOQ is 150. I'm working with a vendor to get quotes from GMK right now!
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: RETURNISO on Tue, 18 June 2019, 07:16:12
Quote
Unfortunately, the main goal of this set is to just have the top and bottom R0 and R5 rows :)

Yeah sorry for the divination. I reckon :)

Hope this will proceed vastly fast to GB :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 18 June 2019, 13:53:57
I think it's "unfair" for the L9 buyers to have to be paying a higher cost for unnecessary keys just so the U9 buyers can have the keys they want produced.

Every set has extra keys that someone doesn't need chief. Problem is, those keys are for compatibility and if they weren't there many sets wouldn't exist because buyers would pass on them since they do not fit their preferred layout.

You do have a point, BUT... it's one thing to have a few extra keys that amount to ~15% of the entire kit, and another one to have a kit where 50% (fifty per cent) of the kit is going to be unused from the very start. It's kind of a lot.

If you're buying this to only use 50% of the kit, you should maximize your spending to product ratio and use like 75% of it instead.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 27 June 2019, 11:29:29
I like the idea. Really really dislike the super though. Imo this kit is a reference to the og sets and should have a windows logo. Super feels wrong in every single way.


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Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: depletedvespene on Thu, 27 June 2019, 12:07:29
I like the idea. Really really dislike the super though. Imo this kit is a reference to the og sets and should have a windows logo. Super feels wrong in every single way.

Sure, but the Windows logo was in and of itself wrong in the first place. The legend "Super" isn't ideal, but even good ol' U+1F4A9 as an icon is better than the Windows logo in this regard.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 27 June 2019, 12:12:56
My interest in this IC began for a few reasons, but I didn't actually have GMK WoB at the time. Mostly, WS1 legends on CR are versatile. Other ICs for WoB Colevrak and WoB NORDEUK++  are gonna be fun to pair with it. I also missed out on R0/R5 when GMK Carbon R2 was running. So due to the fact that WoB is being offered here with a lot of different options, I'm more sure than ever that getting a WoB set is a good idea.

GMK WoB is being offered again on Drop (formerly Massdrop) as of yesterday for $110. I purchased a set specifically because these ICs exist... don't let me down! haha

Link: https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set

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Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: rondg on Thu, 27 June 2019, 19:36:29
No R0 Del key?  :(
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: Acereconkeys on Wed, 03 July 2019, 11:58:11
I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Wed, 03 July 2019, 14:39:33
YES!!!
I still don't get why after GMK brought back the old "R5" and "R0" profiles, not all GBs switchted to using those. Instead most kept going with "R4" for the bottom row and and "R1" for the top/F.
I have a hole box full of old HAD and HAU sets and I'm super exited for this set. Will take a few.
Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: catamscott on Wed, 03 July 2019, 16:17:39
any word on pricing?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 03 July 2019, 16:25:37


YES!!!
I still don't get why after GMK brought back the old "R5" and "R0" profiles, not all GBs switchted to using those. Instead most kept going with "R4" for the bottom row and and "R1" for the top/F.

I would really like to know the reason too. Seems like a missed opportunity!

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Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: fer.real on Wed, 03 July 2019, 17:12:30
My WoB set just came in the mail today.  I hope this makes it to a GB.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 03 July 2019, 17:30:10
yes

This looks cool!


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Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: rondg on Wed, 03 July 2019, 21:57:20
I think 75% will have full support if the R0 Delete key is added. Sorry, I really want this to be 75% compatible  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: phinix on Thu, 04 July 2019, 16:33:45
I would buy it just for R5 1u Super and Fn, as I need them for Rama U80 keyboard.
But I would rather not to buy both colors, as do not need black set...

ANy possibility to add non-stepped Capslock?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: dorf on Thu, 25 July 2019, 12:46:31
Any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 25 July 2019, 12:52:52
Just copped a G80-1800, so consider me in!
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - INTEREST FORM ADDED
Post by: glubazoid on Wed, 31 July 2019, 19:15:07
Small update:

With the kits being this large, and most people owning either WoB or a retro set, I've decided to split this into two kits (would be easier on your wallets too).

Current vendor has some projects on their plate- but I'm working to finalize kits, which is getting close. Looks like R0 delete key is a popular option, as well as additional 1800 support.

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: long_qt_pie on Mon, 05 August 2019, 11:03:04
I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Mon, 05 August 2019, 12:10:04
I'm in, as well.


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Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Fri, 09 August 2019, 17:36:31
Read through the thread and didn't see this addressed, but it looks like the R5 1u and 2u Numpad 0 keys, as well as the r5 Numpad Delete key aren't the correct color, and should be the color of the F1-F4 instead of the color of the modifiers (unless I'm missing something).
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: glubazoid on Fri, 09 August 2019, 19:36:49
Read through the thread and didn't see this addressed, but it looks like the R5 1u and 2u Numpad 0 keys, as well as the r5 Numpad Delete key aren't the correct color, and should be the color of the F1-F4 instead of the color of the modifiers (unless I'm missing something).

You are correct, I'm just finalizing the kit with the vendor then update the thread with the final correct kit haha
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: bobdenard on Sun, 11 August 2019, 07:04:12
I don’t know if the kits are set in stone yet, but is there a way to add 1u Alt and 1.5u Super to fit Mac layouts? Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: tobiasvl on Mon, 12 August 2019, 17:47:53
I'm in!

But is there a reason there are no 1u Alt, Fn and Ctrl for maximum 65% compatibility? Isn't that pretty much the standard 65% layout now instead of a blocker between mods and arrow keys?

Personally I wish this was a BoW/WoB add-on kit, like the recent Icon Modifiers and NorDeUK GBs, since WoB is back on Drop and Minimal just ran. But beige is cool too I suppose... Beige is cool too

Edit: Just saw that you're splitting the sets, you could see if there's enough interest to reach MoQ on a BoW one.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: bigapplepietart on Wed, 18 September 2019, 19:42:45
Really hoping this kit hits MOQ
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: dorf on Sun, 06 October 2019, 12:22:01
(https://media.giphy.com/media/u47skgWgE6E2ejacaR/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: bisoromi on Sun, 26 January 2020, 23:10:14
ne updates
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 02:56:04
As these will be now split, I'm in for classic retro.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: ttom on Mon, 27 January 2020, 04:06:15
ne updates

I took over the WoB version, running it soon: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102335.0
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: phinix on Mon, 27 January 2020, 04:22:45
But classic retro is still going to happen?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: bigapplepietart on Sat, 15 February 2020, 09:22:25
But classic retro is still going to happen?

Hope so, but perhaps not given that 9009 R3 ran last year.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 15 February 2020, 11:35:14
But classic retro is still going to happen?

Hope so, but perhaps not given that 9009 R3 ran last year.
Apart from lack of R0, 9009 R3 also slightly repositioned some mod legends, so even though it provided R5 for classic beige fans, it isn't 100% compatible with pre-existing sets. Maybe for those reasons it is still worthwhile moving forward with classic beige for this. (IMHO)
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: uppereal on Sat, 15 February 2020, 12:30:35
R5 1u Fn plz
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: Shadohhh on Sun, 23 February 2020, 11:41:05
Hope to see WoB R5. Excited to see this move forward eventually.
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: ttom on Sun, 23 February 2020, 11:58:39
Hope to see WoB R5. Excited to see this move forward eventually.

hey, I'm running a gb with wob r5 starting in around a month (took over this with the creator's approval)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102335.0

Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Mon, 24 February 2020, 07:42:48
R5 1u Fn plz

+1

any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: ab042896 on Wed, 21 October 2020, 12:23:51
Seeing that WoB has been run, is there any chance of something similar in a 9009 colourway, or is this pretty much dead at this point
Title: Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets - pls fill form
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 26 October 2020, 21:12:45
Seeing that WoB has been run, is there any chance of something similar in a 9009 colourway, or is this pretty much dead at this point

Probably better to ask in ttom's WoB R0/R5 group buy thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239) since that's where this IC went.

Hope to see WoB R5. Excited to see this move forward eventually.

hey, I'm running a gb with wob r5 starting in around a month (took over this with the creator's approval)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102335.0