I also like the suggestion of "preferred grip". I will look into it, but it is tricky since people differ so much in their specific anatomy, and there will be no consensus about this kind of thing. Sometimes a manufacturer specifically mentions the grip a mouse is designed for. Maybe I can just use that and add it to the guide.
I've thought about it a lot and came to the conclusion that there are essentially only three kinds of grip. I guess it's kinda obvious that something like Func MS-3 isn't really meant for fingertip grip or spawn wouldn't be the best choice for palm grip. If you mention it explicitly, it'll help with full-text search.
The Savu uses the Omron D2FC-F-7N. Opinions will differ about what is light and what is not. I understand that. Here it is used as a relative term. It is only called light, because it is lighter than most other common alternatives. For example, no one would disagree that the Savu LMB and RMB is fairly light compared to for example the huano switches. That said, the shape and design of the mouse can have an impact on the feel of the LMB and RMB. It is possible to go into the difference in feel of the Omron D2FC-F-7N across different mice, but that is a level of precision that is beyond the depth of this thread/guide.
I prefer to call Huano stiff (there are hardly any stiffer common switches), savu's buttons medium, xornet/spawn's buttons light and whatever is inside pyra, it is very light. The shell makes a huge difference.
Maybe it would be worth mentioning stiffness of the wheel too...? Or is it too much information?
I use the word "ergonomic" meaning "not ambidextrous". I do this simply because this is the way the term is used by both consumers and manufacturers. For example, with the Savu, Roccat themselves market it as an "ergonomic" mouse. I feel that deviating from it might lead to confusion. I do get what you are saying, which is exactly the reason why I added "right-handed". Perhaps a discussion of when mice are shaped enough to the hand to be called ergonomic could be interesting, but it is unlikely to make the info in the OP more clear (simplifications have to be made to keep it concise).
Yeah, but manufacturers will put anything on the box, if it fits the marketing BS-speak. They confuse key rollover with antighosting, make unrealistic claims about polling rate, golden connectors and DPI, etc. Meanwhile, the word "ergonomic" is something quite well defined (i.e. fitting the user), but very subjective in practice. For example, someone with huge hands probably wouldn't consider a small fingertip-grip mouse ergonomic, despite being right-handed.
I think what the OP wrote was very reasonable in response to you.
I think your response was full of ****.
I say it's full of ****, because now you're just arguing semantics now and playing devil's advocate.
Let me demonstrate what you're doing, rhetorically, by your using your very own logic.
Meanwhile, the word "ergonomic" is something quite well defined
1) Palm grip, fingertip grip and claw grip are very well defined grips.
2) You said in a previous post that you wanted to see suggestions. You noted that the preferred grip for the savu is for a claw/fingertip grip. I disagree because somebody I know palms this mouse.
3) Therefore I don't think that's a good suggestion and I dispute your classification of this mouse. In fact I want it removed because I don't consider this to be a claw/fingertip mouse because I think that's way too subjective and somebody with very small hands wouldn't consider this a small fingertip-grip mouse.
but very subjective in practice. For example, someone with huge hands probably wouldn't consider a small fingertip-
grip mouse ergonomic, despite being right-handed.
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Yeah, but manufacturers will put anything on the box, if it fits the marketing BS-speak.
Then you go on about manufacturing wording?
So you don't like manufacture wording? Well again, the rest of us can play devil's advocate too.
Roccat calls this mouse - ROCCAT Savu Mid-Size Hybrid Gaming Mouse.
Well I think that's just marketing buill**** because, you see, have quite small hands and tiny fingers and I think this mouse is quite large to me. Mid-size is clearly inaccurate and marketing bullspeak because again it's very subjective in practice.
subjective in practice
Meanwhile, the word "ergonomic" is something quite well defined (i.e. fitting the user), but very subjective in practice. For example, someone with huge hands probably wouldn't consider a small fingertip-grip mouse ergonomic, despite being right-handed.
I think this says it all though.
We can always make this sort of argument.
A paraplegic wouldn't consider anything anything sort of highly specialized equipment suited for his/her needs to be ergonomic now, right?
Oh and no two paraplegics would consider the same highly specialized device to be same type of "ergonomic" aka fitting the user.
If you're going to criticize somebody else for using ergonomic, you should also hold yourself to that same standard and refrain from making any statement which could possibly be construed as "over generalizations" or "blanket statements".
