GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?

[aggiejy]

May I suggest that we create a 'standard' language-pack for all the non-English users needs
and always offer it as an option, provided it meets minimum order ?
Like in the 'Dolch'-buys from SP .. I think it was 37 extra caps, covering most European needs ..

(I'm willing to pay real money for those caps, other non-English natives are probably also.
It would be nice to be able to just re-key, instead of having a danish, english and german keyboard)

This sounds like a really simple solution.  A single add-on pack that includes the more common non-english extra keys.  This makes a lot more sense than to include the extra keys in the base set, and allows the cost of producing the extra legends to be shared by people ordering them.  Keeps the base set as low as possible.   I'd say the same for number pad keys too... so many people don't have a use for them.  No one minds getting extra keys, but plenty of people mind sharing the cost of them if they have no use for them.  But, all depends on pricing and how they work vs SP.  (With SP, what is suggested makes a lot of sense.)

[tsangan]

I don't know of many companies that is willing to waste time on make a bunch of small kits at a small quantity, SP does it but that's not to say GMK does it too

We still don't have a MOQ and pricing correct? Well it's not like they are answering emails at a fast speed sadly

Here is to me hoping the MOQ and pricing isn't redic so we can make many different sets

[Alessandro]

Coffee on cream FTW!

[Soarer]

I started musing on the language kits issue on DT... essentially to cover Nordic and European languages, even allowing for some shared keys, is probably something between 75 and 100 keys (it's about 100 before allowing for shared keys). Any regional modifier texts would be on top of that. So yeah, it all depends on the MOQ.

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes the main problem is even though many language have same characters, many of them are placed on different rows and keys especially on the numeric row. Will probably need to poll for what languages have the highest userbase or least differences and focus on those first.

[nokcha]

I can help with helping meet the MOQ if needed. Definitely excited for this.

[The_Ed]

Typically it's easiest and cheapest to find black set with 1.25, and beige set with 1.5. Other colorways can vary greatly but most typical 1.5 or something totally odd. People that find the opposite are just lucky/have stupid amount of money to drop, or have some mystery hook up or something. In any case getting new sets made is the easiest way to solve these problems.

I guess?

Mine was purchased just by searching on google and 2 pages later

http://www.tedss.com/2099001441

3 boards were purchased

...So then do people constantly hound you for 7x spacebars and 1.5x mods? Or is that just me?...

[Alessandro]

Typically it's easiest and cheapest to find black set with 1.25, and beige set with 1.5. Other colorways can vary greatly but most typical 1.5 or something totally odd. People that find the opposite are just lucky/have stupid amount of money to drop, or have some mystery hook up or something. In any case getting new sets made is the easiest way to solve these problems.

I guess?

Mine was purchased just by searching on google and 2 pages later

http://www.tedss.com/2099001441

3 boards were purchased

...So then do people constantly hound you for 7x spacebars and 1.5x mods? Or is that just me?...

Just let your signature do its job.

[Peter]

I started musing on the language kits issue on DT... essentially to cover Nordic and European languages, even allowing for some shared keys, is probably something between 75 and 100 keys (it's about 100 before allowing for shared keys). Any regional modifier texts would be on top of that. So yeah, it all depends on the MOQ.

Forget French AZERTY , Italian, Greek and Spanish, they practically require their own full set to get it right .
But, ignoring the num-pad and keeping modifiers etc in English, you can convert a US-ANSI cap-set to proper UK-English, Danish/Norwegian, Swedish,
German QWERTZ ISO-layout (also acceptable to Austrians and the German-speaking Swiss), and a few more languages i don't remember ATM, with just 37 extra caps .
That's a couple hundred million more potential customers for one keyset, for a few euro-cents extra worth of plastic . 


The way I see it, these guys are in the business of selling custom-made key-caps .
Now will you please take my money ??

[guilleguillaume]

I started musing on the language kits issue on DT... essentially to cover Nordic and European languages, even allowing for some shared keys, is probably something between 75 and 100 keys (it's about 100 before allowing for shared keys). Any regional modifier texts would be on top of that. So yeah, it all depends on the MOQ.

Forget French AZERTY , Italian, Greek and Spanish, they practically require their own full set to get it right .

[...]

What do you mean with that sentence?

[Peter]

I mean that there are so many differences between those layouts and US-'English' ANSI
that they need their own, complete, sets to get the authentic Cherry-look .

English modifiers/numpad etc are acceptable to many North-European users, many already have them !
German enthusiasts can probably live with 'Print' instead of 'Druck' usw,
but wouldn't surprise me if there also is a home-market for a full German replica-set .

The French in particular, but also the Spanish and Italian prefer to have everything in their own language ..
Entree !!

EDIT :
IBM once offered language-conversion kits as did a few other quality-manufacturers, like NorthGate and DEC .
Existing stock could quickly be re-keyed and directed to another market where they where needed .
Of course it's a lot easier if you don't have to worry about row-profiles

[tsangan]

Looks like EK is doing business with them already

[SmallFry]

I saw that! RED ESC FOR EVERYONE!

[demik]

hopefully stuff like that will balance out this community again.

chance to get what you want easily.

[Halverson]

hopefully stuff like that will balance out this community again.

chance to get what you want easily.

Not me though, thanks to you I'll never be easy to get again!!!

[demik]

hopefully stuff like that will balance out this community again.

chance to get what you want easily.

Not me though, thanks to you I'll never be easy to get again!!!

yeah right, dinner and sweet talking and you're putty.

[Halverson]

hopefully stuff like that will balance out this community again.

chance to get what you want easily.

Not me though, thanks to you I'll never be easy to get again!!!

yeah right, dinner and sweet talking and you're putty.

****.....whatever. At least it's more than nothing.

[SmallFry]

hopefully stuff like that will balance out this community again.

chance to get what you want easily.

Not me though, thanks to you I'll never be easy to get again!!!

yeah right, dinner and sweet talking and you're putty.

****.....whatever. At least it's more than nothing.

*cooks dinner*

[Halverson]

hopefully stuff like that will balance out this community again.

chance to get what you want easily.

Not me though, thanks to you I'll never be easy to get again!!!

yeah right, dinner and sweet talking and you're putty.

****.....whatever. At least it's more than nothing.

*cooks dinner*

....is it Thai?

[SmallFry]

How'd you smell that all the way up in Canada?

[demik]

wizard shark girl.

three sets of nostrils

[maxmalkav]

Forget French AZERTY , Italian, Greek and Spanish, they practically require their own full set to get it right .

I guess you are talking about modifiers. BTW, I've just counted only 6 different keys between Italian and Spanish layouts. Finnish layout is also pretty similar to Spanish one. Maybe there are even more similarities between some layouts than expected, "dunno" ...

Regarding modifier labels, maybe we should ask "other-European-languages-speakers" if they are OK with more international labels. Personally, I don't care too much about the language of the modifiers, and a Spanish layout would be nice, but I can also live without it.

[Halverson]

How'd you smell that all the way up in Canada?

And no it's not cause of my third nostril demik!
Currently in Utah, land of the Mormons.

[noxwood]

It appears EK has already contact GMK and has ordered a batch, and will be ordering more.

They're selling "Authentic Cherry Red Esc" (DS). I feel bad for the suckers that bought them for 200+.

[hashbaz]

I wonder if GMK has non-Cherry fonts available.  I do love me a Cherry font, but other options in high-quality 2-shots would be nice too.

[IvanIvanovich]

Maybe EK will start stocking standard full set from GMK? Wouldn't that be nice.

[penoulum]

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_redesc

ESC  !!!!!!!!!!!

[alaricljs]

How long is this going to go on?

[Soarer]

The Winter of Esc.

[SmallFry]

And the summer of PING!

[Soarer]

Yeah.

Geekhack. Not good for notable autumns.

But did have an rm spring.

[SmallFry]

Springs are in the boards, Summer of PING, and now the Winter of the Esc!

[Soarer]

There must be a play on Fall in there somewhere.

[jil_jil32]

And this one, don't forget it!

[SmallFry]

herm... R4 Fall of 2016?

[IvanIvanovich]

Perfect candidate to replace red esc if we can do our buy. Obliterate rareness of all the keys!

[Shadovved]

Perfect candidate to replace red esc if we can do our buy. Obliterate rareness of all the keys!

We shall revolutionise this era! Back into the medieval ages of Cherry DS! 

[rainb1ood]

Obliterate rareness of all the keys!

I'm with this! For Dolch, for Beige!

[aggiejy]

Though, I'd be very shocked if they'd make something with the cherry logo on it.  Being that they bought their molds, and list them in their references on their site.  Unless Cherry allowed it, but that's doubtful.

[IvanIvanovich]

I think we are just coming out of the dark age. When Cherry discontinued doubleshots it was like the sacking of Rome. Now we are coming into the Renaissance. We will reach the age of enlightenment when doubleshots are a common stock keycap again.

[tsangan]

please find cherry dyesubs

[jil_jil32]

Hey lysol, can GMK produce the dyesub caps?

[Shadovved]

Yay! The age of enlightenment! 

[pitashen]

Eagerly awaits the tanking of red Ecs market price

[tsangan]

Hey lysol, can GMK produce the dyesub caps?

They only list laser, pad print and doubleshot on their website so I would go with no unless they do but don't advertise it

[IvanIvanovich]

No, I was pointed to another company by Cherry for dyesub. But we already have imsto who does some pretty nice stuff so I didn't investigate it yet. I put the link in the keycap manufacturing sources thread.

[jil_jil32]

It would be very cool if they can do the dyesub job!

[tsangan]

No, I was pointed to another company by Cherry for dyesub. But we already have imsto who does some pretty nice stuff so I didn't investigate it yet. I put the link in the keycap manufacturing sources thread.

The quality of the keys are DEFINITELY not the same

Not to sound like a snob but I own imsto PBT and cherry PBT and the difference is huge

[IvanIvanovich]

I do as well. I can tell the difference by just touching them, but imsto's cap are still very high quality and it's good enough for me. imsto caps have more of a noticeable grainy texture than my Cherry. But I feel the overall quality and printing is pretty close.

[tsangan]

I do as well. I can tell the difference by just touching them, but imsto's cap are still very high quality and it's good enough for me.

I guess I'll follow your contact and see what I can find when I have time then.

imsto not up to par once i tried the original Cherry not to say imsto is bad, just different.