Cool! Any chance for a 1u backspace/delete icon like this ?Why would that icon go on the big ass enter? This is only a group buy for those.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BtrQH2O.jpg)
It's not out of the question to add a 1U backspace key to match each keyset.Cool! Any chance for a 1u backspace/delete icon like this ?Why would that icon go on the big ass enter? This is only a group buy for those.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BtrQH2O.jpg)
Ah. Makes more sense now.It's not out of the question to add a 1U backspace key to match each keyset.Cool! Any chance for a 1u backspace/delete icon like this ?Why would that icon go on the big ass enter? This is only a group buy for those.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BtrQH2O.jpg)
I wanted to leave that decision to the community, as it increases the price a little bit.Ah. Makes more sense now.It's not out of the question to add a 1U backspace key to match each keyset.Cool! Any chance for a 1u backspace/delete icon like this ?Why would that icon go on the big ass enter? This is only a group buy for those.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BtrQH2O.jpg)
Yuri
I've spoken with tomb3ry and he has given me permission to add Carbon, Yuri and Eclipse to the list. If he said no I would not have felt confortable running the IC.Yuri
is MD exclusive
I've spoken with tomb3ry...
Can any PCB with ISO support and QMK be used for BAE layout?
Can any PCB with ISO support and QMK be used for BAE layout?As long as it supports split backspace and ISO enter,it should be fine
Can you genuine own a set of colors, though? Seems like a weird idea to me.I've spoken with tomb3ry...
That's good, but to do this you have to run it through MD? I asked about getting other add-ons for Yuri before, and that was my understanding of them having exclusivity on the colorway.
Can you genuine own a set of colors, though? Seems like a weird idea to me.
Let me email Yanbo about it to see where he stands.Can you genuine own a set of colors, though? Seems like a weird idea to me.
If they were willing to pay for it, Massdrop or anyone else could certainly get a contractual agreement with GMK that GMK will not mix the particular combinations of red on blue for anyone else, either for some months or years, or permanently.
Let me email Yambo about it to see where he stands.
Depending on the price, I'll most likely get 1 to match a few of my GMK sets. Not sure if I'd actually use it, but it looks super cool.Can any PCB with ISO support and QMK be used for BAE layout?As long as it supports split backspace and ISO enter,it should be fine
Idk. Maybe he meant I had the Go ahead for the IC and then if it reached GB status I would need to speak with YanboLet me email Yambo about it to see where he stands.
Maybe the exclusivity already expired? If T0mb3ry said you're good to use this and didn't mention MD perhaps it's not any issue now?
As long as it supports ISO enter and split backspace and is programable, you should be fine.Depending on the price, I'll most likely get 1 to match a few of my GMK sets. Not sure if I'd actually use it, but it looks super cool.Can any PCB with ISO support and QMK be used for BAE layout?As long as it supports split backspace and ISO enter,it should be fine
Could you let us know if a regular PCB supports the big ass enter key? Getting a special PCB would definitely make this less appealing.
Idk. Maybe he meant I had the Go ahead for the IC and then if it reached GB status I would need to speak with Yanbo
Very cool idea, although I'd be more interested in a regular-ass enter pack to go with the pile of Esc keys I've amassed from various packs to accent some of my more plain sets ;D
Just in case someone wonder how the GMK BAE fits on a board. In a programmable PCB the BAE can be easily swapped with ISO Enter.I'm afraid it wont fit. On the iso enter the vertical stems are at the center of the 1.25U area, while in the bae enter they are centered at the 1.5U area. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h00LTrn.jpg)
Just in case someone wonder how the GMK BAE fits on a board. In a programmable PCB the BAE can be easily swapped with ISO Enter.I'm afraid it wont fit. On the iso enter the vertical stems are at the center of the 1.25U area, while in the bae enter they are centered at the 1.5U area. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h00LTrn.jpg)
You would need new pcbs and plates.
edit: though gmk might have different stabilizer setups for this key, maybe worth asking. ANSI stabs and top key would be the most compatible.
IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME.Peanut buttah ;D
Very cool idea, although I'd be more interested in a regular-ass enter pack to go with the pile of Esc keys I've amassed from various packs to accent some of my more plain sets ;D
There is a sort of "regular" Enter pack coming at reddit and DT.
Very cool idea, although I'd be more interested in a regular-ass enter pack to go with the pile of Esc keys I've amassed from various packs to accent some of my more plain sets ;D
There is a sort of "regular" Enter pack coming at reddit and DT.
do you have a link?
Very cool idea, although I'd be more interested in a regular-ass enter pack to go with the pile of Esc keys I've amassed from various packs to accent some of my more plain sets ;D
There is a sort of "regular" Enter pack coming at reddit and DT.
do you have a link?
Pretty sure this is the one -
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6rsrb1/ic_shtpost_return_key/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6rsrb1/ic_shtpost_return_key/)
https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/****post-return-key-t17131.html#p381732 (https://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/****post-return-key-t17131.html#p381732)
Not exactly "regular", but might have to jump on it if it goes to GB.
Except that this does not fit on a ISO layout board. See how the vertical stems are aligned on the 1.25U part in the ISO enter and on the 1.5U part in the BAE.Just in case someone wonder how the GMK BAE fits on a board. In a programmable PCB the BAE can be easily swapped with ISO Enter.I'm afraid it wont fit. On the iso enter the vertical stems are at the center of the 1.25U area, while in the bae enter they are centered at the 1.5U area. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h00LTrn.jpg)
You would need new pcbs and plates.
edit: though gmk might have different stabilizer setups for this key, maybe worth asking. ANSI stabs and top key would be the most compatible.
I agree that the stems positions of the mold intended to be used should be checked.
... Personally, I would prefer this same design, because it fits over an standard ISO layout, which most contemporary PCBs fit ...
Cherry key capShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/r94Xjxr.jpg)
The email I got from GMK stated that the stabilizer is the same as ISO boards.Except that this does not fit on a ISO layout board. See how the vertical stems are aligned on the 1.25U part in the ISO enter and on the 1.5U part in the BAE.Just in case someone wonder how the GMK BAE fits on a board. In a programmable PCB the BAE can be easily swapped with ISO Enter.I'm afraid it wont fit. On the iso enter the vertical stems are at the center of the 1.25U area, while in the bae enter they are centered at the 1.5U area. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h00LTrn.jpg)
You would need new pcbs and plates.
edit: though gmk might have different stabilizer setups for this key, maybe worth asking. ANSI stabs and top key would be the most compatible.
I agree that the stems positions of the mold intended to be used should be checked.
... Personally, I would prefer this same design, because it fits over an standard ISO layout, which most contemporary PCBs fit ...
Cherry key capShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/r94Xjxr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ShzHp.jpg)
New PCBs and plates are needed for the keycap posted by ideus. We should ask if they have BAE with stem positions that would be compatible with either ansi or ISO layout switch & stabilizer locations.
I guess they have then updated their mold since the time they made the key ideus posted (I can make an overlay picture for you ideus if you still don't see the difference).The email I got from GMK stated that the stabilizer is the same as ISO boards.Except that this does not fit on a ISO layout board. See how the vertical stems are aligned on the 1.25U part in the ISO enter and on the 1.5U part in the BAE.Just in case someone wonder how the GMK BAE fits on a board. In a programmable PCB the BAE can be easily swapped with ISO Enter.I'm afraid it wont fit. On the iso enter the vertical stems are at the center of the 1.25U area, while in the bae enter they are centered at the 1.5U area. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h00LTrn.jpg)
You would need new pcbs and plates.
edit: though gmk might have different stabilizer setups for this key, maybe worth asking. ANSI stabs and top key would be the most compatible.
I agree that the stems positions of the mold intended to be used should be checked.
... Personally, I would prefer this same design, because it fits over an standard ISO layout, which most contemporary PCBs fit ...
Cherry key capShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/r94Xjxr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ShzHp.jpg)
New PCBs and plates are needed for the keycap posted by ideus. We should ask if they have BAE with stem positions that would be compatible with either ansi or ISO layout switch & stabilizer locations.
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170907/a6ee9ba676e5b1ded66f9f51cadce19c.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170907/47f292bb9216fa03f4dd0858e6d05ccf.jpg)
what kind of keyboard do you want this enter for? Id assume most custom doesnt support this layout.
You nasty freak. i'm so in... i've wanted to build a bigass 60% for a while.
You nasty freak. i'm so in... i've wanted to build a bigass 60% for a while.
+1Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nd4ztBz.png)
I just hope that the upcoming BAE keys do actually fit ISO layouts as the communication posted witnessed; otherwise, as pomk pointed, the vertical three stems in the available pictures of the BAE design are slightly off the positions of contemporary ISO stems, the only way to reconcile them is if the BAE design has been adjusted to fit the ISO's.
You nasty freak. i'm so in... i've wanted to build a bigass 60% for a while.
+1Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nd4ztBz.png)
I just hope that the upcoming BAE keys do actually fit ISO layouts as the communication posted witnessed; otherwise, as pomk pointed, the vertical three stems in the available pictures of the BAE design are slightly off the positions of contemporary ISO stems, the only way to reconcile them is if the BAE design has been adjusted to fit the ISO's.
hzfaq from DT made an alps BA60. so ****in baller.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GvNDY16.jpg)
There's something irresistible about building a tiny board, ostensibly for space-saving, with that unnecessarily huge continent of plastic taking up so much area. :))
How's the survey going jihadu? I can't stop thinking about bae. ^-^19 respondents so far. 9009 is ruling the pack
I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
Meanwhile, I will launch a poll to figure out which stem position is favorable (ANSI will likely come on top)
It is _similar_, just shifted by some millimeter to the left.I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
Meanwhile, I will launch a poll to figure out which stem position is favorable (ANSI will likely come on top)
It is _similar_, just shifted by some millimeter to the left.I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
Meanwhile, I will launch a poll to figure out which stem position is favorable (ANSI will likely come on top)
I know that, thanks. Just pointing out that the wording used by GMK is valid. "The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO"It is _similar_, just shifted by some millimeter to the left.I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
Meanwhile, I will launch a poll to figure out which stem position is favorable (ANSI will likely come on top)
The shift, while small, requires a different mold, not matter how small the difference is.
I know that, thanks. Just pointing out that the wording used by GMK is valid. "The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO"It is _similar_, just shifted by some millimeter to the left.I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
Meanwhile, I will launch a poll to figure out which stem position is favorable (ANSI will likely come on top)
The shift, while small, requires a different mold, not matter how small the difference is.
Exactly. If the BAE is slightly off stabilizer wise, It becomes impossible to use on standard boards. This limits it right away to the handful of people looking to use custom keycaps on old boards and given the MOQ, means this will be dead in the waterI know that, thanks. Just pointing out that the wording used by GMK is valid. "The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO"It is _similar_, just shifted by some millimeter to the left.I just got an OG Cherry set with BAE and I can confirm that it does not fit the mechanics of the ISO Enter. As previously reported, the vertical stems do not match in between the BAE and the ISO Enter keys. It implies that BAE requires a different PCB layout. Personally, I am disapointed because it means that no current sixty PCB in the market fits a BAE.I would have to speak with them to figure out if a new mold is needed. The guy in customer service claims that the stem position is similar to ISO, but I'm sure that the manufacturing team knows better.
Meanwhile, I will launch a poll to figure out which stem position is favorable (ANSI will likely come on top)
The shift, while small, requires a different mold, not matter how small the difference is.
Semantically, maybe. But, for practical use of the available BAE, it should fit exactly the stem's positions of either an ANSI or an ISO enter keys.
Please update the first post so that it does not convey incorrect information about ISO compatibility.Fixed!
any idea on timings?I would prefer running around jan/february 2018 and shipping later that summer. Right now I'm in uni and I don't have the time, but running this in my winter break would give me some peace of mind.
The BAE is so retro that it is a-must-have key for any serious keyboard aficionado. Even if you do not use it, it is like an icon for the era mechanical keyboards reign in the input devices landscape.This. I daily drive an ISO, but I love the BAE because its just so f*ing cool.
The BAE is so retro that it is a-must-have key for any serious keyboard aficionado. Even if you do not use it, it is like an icon for the era mechanical keyboards reign in the input devices landscape.This. I daily drive an ISO, but I love the BAE because its just so f*ing cool.
36-24-36 :thumb:only if she's 5'3"
36-24-36 :thumb:only if she's 5'3"
Where in THE hell would this fit on a keyboard? :)) Also why does this idea exist? Am I missing a backstory? I saw this out of sheer chance and was curious.It's basically an enter format popular on alps keyboards and some OEM's. Cherry made a couple of boards using it but it was not super popular and ended up ditching it for a standard backspace and ISO/ANSI enters.
tai-hao BAE keys for SteelSeries 6gV2 (leftovers selling on aliexpress - https://aliexpress.com/item/32824755255.html (https://aliexpress.com/item/32824755255.html)) would sit perfectly on a ANSI keyboard, they use ANSI Enter stem and the top "stem" corresponds to backslash switch position.
I call it the top "stem" because it's not a stem but long tube, that on 6gV2 went to water well like hole installed instead of ANSI backslash switch.
So if the GMK BAE mold will be finally created, I suppose it should sit on a ANSI Enter and backslash switches...
I'm more inclined to go for the ANSI BAE route, it's a wider market and for a niche group buy it I'll help lower the cost for everyone.
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Can the "Reverse L" or "slim ass" Enter get into this set somehow?
No. I mean this enter key:Show Image(https://deskthority.net/wiki/images/6/68/Cherry19_006.jpg)
There was a time when I was very interested in this. Now my layouts have moved to ANSI. Still, I use one with ISO Enter. The ANSI has the advantage that it can have a short backspace on top of it, instead of the big ass.Very nice. You could almost say it's not ide(o)us
This is my upcoming build. My own interpretation of an International Danish layout.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oHOYDDe.jpg)
There was a time when I was very interested in this. Now my layouts have moved to ANSI. Still, I use one with ISO Enter. The ANSI has the advantage that it can have a short backspace on top of it, instead of the big ass.Very nice. You could almost say it's not ide(o)us
This is my upcoming build. My own interpretation of an International Danish layout.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oHOYDDe.jpg)
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No. I mean this enter key:Show Image(https://deskthority.net/wiki/images/6/68/Cherry19_006.jpg)
That's nice. I haven't seen one. What keyboard is that?
No. I mean this enter key:Show Image(https://deskthority.net/wiki/images/6/68/Cherry19_006.jpg)
That's nice. I haven't seen one. What keyboard is that?
That's a G80-0778. Sorry for the tardy reply
Here's a board I built with a set of DCS keycaps that had a BAE, if it's possible I think it would be alot easier to reach MOQ if the keycap could be tooled to use ANSI Enter stabilizer positions, with a stem in the spot of the Pipe key for a dummy switch at the top half of the keycap - that would allow alot of non-ISO boards to use the BAE, and also allow for easy switching back to ANSI enter. My opinion is that if you're already using an ISO enter, there's no real need to change to a BAE, but if you're using ANSI enter, a BAE would be a fun way to get ISO-esque aesthetic without having to rebuild your keyboard (or buy a new PCB/Plate in the case of boards that don't support ISO)
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