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TypicalOranges:

--- Quote from: mgsickler on Wed, 29 May 2024, 15:00:35 ---

Shouldn't Keycon be a US-only event?

Given that Keycon is a Geekhack-based event, I don’t think so. Our community is global, and making Keycon international allows many more people to attend who otherwise couldn’t.


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Is this really true anymore? You should be honest and just say it's an NK-based event now. Y'all have changed everything about how it is run.

iamtootallforthis:

--- Quote from: TypicalOranges on Thu, 30 May 2024, 08:37:06 ---
--- Quote from: mgsickler on Wed, 29 May 2024, 15:00:35 ---

Shouldn't Keycon be a US-only event?

Given that Keycon is a Geekhack-based event, I don’t think so. Our community is global, and making Keycon international allows many more people to attend who otherwise couldn’t.


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Is this really true anymore? You should be honest and just say it's an NK-based event now. Y'all have changed everything about how it is run.

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Considering it's no longer up to a community vote I find it hard to call it geekhack based event.

LightningXI:
As much as I too appreciate the sentiment of global inclusion, I agree wholly with the points brought up by shell058 and echoed by the others. Not having a community vote is a nail in the coffin for a "geekhack-based" event, but more importantly, I believe that the better compromise would indeed have been to organize a large event that covers the European continent as well as one that still is for the US/NA-based community, at a location that is determined by the community as well.

One may argue in contrary that there are other large events to attend, like regional events (SMK, NorCal, SoCal, NYC) or even vendor-sponsored events ("The Keyboard Meetup" by NK, CK's Providence meet, Mode Designs in Boston), etc, but these, again, carry none of the community's ability to have a choice on where and when to meet.

It's sad to me that the name of Keycon won't carry the same meaning it has for many of us, especially those here active on geekhack, as these decisions are made on the organizing end without the community's input.

Joey Quinn:

--- Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 30 May 2024, 09:10:25 ---
--- Quote from: TypicalOranges on Thu, 30 May 2024, 08:37:06 ---
--- Quote from: mgsickler on Wed, 29 May 2024, 15:00:35 ---

Shouldn't Keycon be a US-only event?

Given that Keycon is a Geekhack-based event, I don’t think so. Our community is global, and making Keycon international allows many more people to attend who otherwise couldn’t.


--- End quote ---

Is this really true anymore? You should be honest and just say it's an NK-based event now. Y'all have changed everything about how it is run.

--- End quote ---

Considering it's no longer up to a community vote I find it hard to call it geekhack based event.

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As much fun as SLC was and going to Germany sounds I agree, this doesn't feel like a geekhack event anymore.

jacobsmirror:

--- Quote from: TypicalOranges on Thu, 30 May 2024, 08:37:06 ---
--- Quote from: mgsickler on Wed, 29 May 2024, 15:00:35 ---

Shouldn't Keycon be a US-only event?

Given that Keycon is a Geekhack-based event, I don’t think so. Our community is global, and making Keycon international allows many more people to attend who otherwise couldn’t.


--- End quote ---

Is this really true anymore? You should be honest and just say it's an NK-based event now. Y'all have changed everything about how it is run.

--- End quote ---

As someone who's pretty involved with the recent history of KeyCon, and put a good amount of work into building up the event over the last few years, I wanted to weigh in. The event has evolved into something that is bigger and more complex to be handled by a fluctuating cast of community members and volunteers. You simply cannot run an event that'll pull at a minimum of 400 people without some serious capital, planning, time, and effort. And as I thought about the future of the event, it started to become very clear that help was needed, and I approached Mike (and others, mind you) about the possibility of taking over KeyCon. What the event needs is someone who has history with the community who will be around for years, the resources and experience to pull off large events, and the access to relationships with companies and makers. NK checks all those boxes. They understand the history of KeyCon, have a heart to carry it on as an event where the community can come together, but they also have the resources to provide new experiences that a typical meetup runner would not have access. Also, they won't say this, but meetups aren't a money-making endeavor, and are almost always run at a loss (not even accounting for time spent and opportunity cost).

Is KeyCon something different than it has been? Yeah, it's become a monster of an event. And with that, you can't always bend that amount of effort to the changing tastes of community opinion. I think the event is in good hands, and I trust Mike and his team to run great meetups that pull widely from the community both in the US and abroad.

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