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Title: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: MechWild on Fri, 22 April 2022, 11:04:44
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Hey, what’s up. It’s MechWild again with another fun, affordable board. We are proud to introduce you all to the Clunker, a 40% board with half a number row, knob, and a solenoid.

And what’s a solenoid you may be asking? We have a video recorded just for you demonstrating a solenoid on the Clunker.



Group Buy Details
Prototype

(https://i.imgur.com/cR1eqEG.png)

Features:
VERY roughly based on the Van and its spinoffs. It is like a van that is making a questionable noise. You know, like a clunker.

Clunker go brrrrrr


The base kit includes:
We will be offering our usual assortment of extra parts on the product listing (MillMax sockets, extra diodes, etc.).


Layouts

(https://i.imgur.com/kbNA2le.png)

Thank you for checking out this post. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. We love you.

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Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Alejo1707 on Fri, 22 April 2022, 14:42:57
So weird I want it! Plus, split space bar gang forevah <3
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: nickthaskater on Fri, 22 April 2022, 15:15:12
God I love this. I want a bigger solenoid for more thump in my clunk and USB-C as standard (time to let micro die it's worthy death).
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: BrokenFlows on Sat, 23 April 2022, 02:56:40
I love this! I’ve been looking for something with a solenoid I love the half-num-row and the knob. It seems like a really fun board!

With it being Pro Micro powered, would that allow a nice!nano to work as well? I’m nearly all in on ZMK at this point, so that would be a great plus.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: questcraft on Sat, 23 April 2022, 09:25:40
Nice colour, I like  :thumb:
Dont combine international kits plz, thx  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Faceman76 on Sat, 23 April 2022, 10:57:40
I need this so I can drive everyone crazy at work.

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Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: moistbobo on Sun, 24 April 2022, 04:01:37
finally, the ultimate board to annoy my coworkers with
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: sillyworld on Tue, 26 April 2022, 10:23:04
God I love this. I want a bigger solenoid for more thump in my clunk and USB-C as standard (time to let micro die it's worthy death).

FWIW, this will be compatible with the longer USB C pro micro boards.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: sillyworld on Tue, 26 April 2022, 10:25:58
I love this! I’ve been looking for something with a solenoid I love the half-num-row and the knob. It seems like a really fun board!

With it being Pro Micro powered, would that allow a nice!nano to work as well? I’m nearly all in on ZMK at this point, so that would be a great plus.

Yes, it will be able to be powered by the nice!nano HOWEVER (and this is a big list of caveats) solenoids use a LOT of juice that the nice!nano won't like, the electromagnetic ****ery of the solenoid itself might interfere with wireless connection, you'd need a beefy battery, and I don't think that ZMK supports solenoids currently.

If you don't want to use the solenoid, sure, the nice!nano would work.

That being said, the real answer is "yes, but also no"
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: ggggggg on Tue, 26 April 2022, 12:17:03
Is the solenoid striking fr4 or the acrylic guard somehow? And would if be feasible to have it strike a different material? Like an eraser if you need to type on the DL, or a tiny wine glass for toasting purposes?

I wanna make it hit backspace lol
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: MechWild on Tue, 26 April 2022, 12:58:19
Is the solenoid striking fr4 or the acrylic guard somehow? And would if be feasible to have it strike a different material? Like an eraser if you need to type on the DL, or a tiny wine glass for toasting purposes?

I wanna make it hit backspace lol

It is not hitting anything in the video, that is the raw, uncut solenoid in action. You can always jury rig something with zip ties and/or duct tape, like on a beat up car.
Title: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: psxndc on Tue, 26 April 2022, 20:19:00
I love this (yay ISO Row 4), but can't behind the 1.75u enter, or more specifically, the right hand lacking the semicolon/pinky alpha key.

I love my Romeo keyboard, but can't use it for this singular reason (which you fixed on the Mercutio!)
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: BrokenFlows on Wed, 27 April 2022, 15:19:49
I love this! I’ve been looking for something with a solenoid I love the half-num-row and the knob. It seems like a really fun board!

With it being Pro Micro powered, would that allow a nice!nano to work as well? I’m nearly all in on ZMK at this point, so that would be a great plus.

Yes, it will be able to be powered by the nice!nano HOWEVER (and this is a big list of caveats) solenoids use a LOT of juice that the nice!nano won't like, the electromagnetic ****ery of the solenoid itself might interfere with wireless connection, you'd need a beefy battery, and I don't think that ZMK supports solenoids currently.

If you don't want to use the solenoid, sure, the nice!nano would work.

That being said, the real answer is "yes, but also no"
I appreciate the detailed response! Thank you very much. I’ll have a think then. I’d love to have the solenoid and ZMK, but I understand the tradeoffs better now. I’m happy to have more information to make the decision between firmwares and controllers with.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: ggggggg on Wed, 27 April 2022, 23:17:39
I love this (yay ISO Row 4), but can't behind the 1.75u enter, or more specifically, the right hand lacking the semicolon/pinky alpha key.

I love my Romeo keyboard, but can't use it for this singular reason (which you fixed on the Mercutio!)

I usually put it on enter on a layer (that I get to holding space). You could also combo L + enter.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 28 April 2022, 22:07:39
I'd really love more options for the bottom row. I'd personally like to put the 2u and 2.75u keys next to each other and have the 1u off to the right of the 2.75u.

As mentioned before, I'd also really like to have my pinky resting on a semicolon instead of the enter but I suppose that would be difficult to do without changing the stagger or widening the board.
Title: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 28 April 2022, 22:50:39
As mentioned before, I'd also really like to have my pinky resting on a semicolon instead of the enter but I suppose that would be difficult to do without changing the stagger or widening the board.
I was suggesting they give they option of a split Enter like the mercutio. Wouldn’t need to change the stagger or widening the board.

https://i0.wp.com/mechwild.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/mercutio_kle_sizes.png?resize=980%2C367&ssl=1
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 29 April 2022, 01:32:36
As mentioned before, I'd also really like to have my pinky resting on a semicolon instead of the enter but I suppose that would be difficult to do without changing the stagger or widening the board.
I was suggesting they give they option of a split Enter like the mercutio. Wouldn’t need to change the stagger or widening the board.

https://i0.wp.com/mechwild.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/mercutio_kle_sizes.png?resize=980%2C367&ssl=1

The Mercutio uses a 2.25 enter but this one is a 1.75u. It would need to be extended .25u so that it could be split into two 1u keys. Alternatively the stagger for that row would have to be moved to the left by the same amount.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Faceman76 on Fri, 29 April 2022, 03:13:58
As mentioned before, I'd also really like to have my pinky resting on a semicolon instead of the enter but I suppose that would be difficult to do without changing the stagger or widening the board.
I was suggesting they give they option of a split Enter like the mercutio. Wouldn’t need to change the stagger or widening the board.

https://i0.wp.com/mechwild.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/mercutio_kle_sizes.png?resize=980%2C367&ssl=1

The Mercutio uses a 2.25 enter but this one is a 1.75u. It would need to be extended .25u so that it could be split into two 1u keys. Alternatively the stagger for that row would have to be moved to the left by the same amount.
Moving all 3 alpha rows to the left by .25 and splitting the enter key does seem like a great idea.  TBH, other than space bars and the delete key, I feel all keys should be 1u.  Anything else is a waste of space. 

One build where the delete key was a 1u, I used a taller profile cap for ease of access. 

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Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 29 April 2022, 03:40:01
Moving all 3 alpha rows to the left by .25 and splitting the enter key does seem like a great idea.  TBH, other than space bars and the delete key, I feel all keys should be 1u.  Anything else is a waste of space. 

I'd personally rather see the board extended than have the stagger changed. There are lots of people who'd be really put off by any non-standard stagger. Still, I'm keeping an open mind. If no changes can be made at this point I'd be willing to give the layout a try even though it's not my preference.
Title: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 29 April 2022, 11:38:07
As mentioned before, I'd also really like to have my pinky resting on a semicolon instead of the enter but I suppose that would be difficult to do without changing the stagger or widening the board.
I was suggesting they give they option of a split Enter like the mercutio. Wouldn’t need to change the stagger or widening the board.

https://i0.wp.com/mechwild.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/mercutio_kle_sizes.png?resize=980%2C367&ssl=1

The Mercutio uses a 2.25 enter but this one is a 1.75u. It would need to be extended .25u so that it could be split into two 1u keys. Alternatively the stagger for that row would have to be moved to the left by the same amount.
I totally didn’t realize that. My bad. Thanks for the explanation!
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: MechWild on Fri, 06 May 2022, 17:49:25
Hey you guys, we've added some more layout options and decided some GB details. Updated details will be added to the original post.

Thank you for all the support!
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Backspace2 on Fri, 06 May 2022, 22:11:58
I'm a big fan  ;D Gonna learn soldering just to build this!
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Arcoril on Sat, 07 May 2022, 14:52:51
Hey you guys, we've added some more layout options and decided some GB details. Updated details will be added to the original post.

Thank you for all the support!

Welp. I'm getting like three of these now. Split enter is perfection and the 1-6 keys will let me game in a way that I couldn't with the Mercutio. Solenoid will give me new and creative ways of annoying the hell out of everyone around me. Love the changes!
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: psxndc on Sat, 07 May 2022, 16:15:53
Split enter is perfection and the 1-6 keys will let me game in a way that I couldn't with the Mercutio.
But it's not a spilt enter, it's a split right shift. Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Arcoril on Sat, 07 May 2022, 22:43:16
Split enter is perfection and the 1-6 keys will let me game in a way that I couldn't with the Mercutio.
But it's not a spilt enter, it's a split right shift. Or am I missing something?

No, you’re totally right. I was off by a row. Still love the board especially with the bottom row options. I’ll just have to get used to resting my pinky on enter.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: FiEND on Mon, 09 May 2022, 12:24:38
didnt know i needed this until i saw it. count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 09 May 2022, 15:29:53
Love the naming so much I might grab one & I'm not a 40s guy LOL!
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: linell on Mon, 09 May 2022, 18:18:30
I'm gonna clunk so hard
can't wait :)
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: steak7 on Tue, 10 May 2022, 20:44:35
This is a really interesting idea mate. So weird that I just might go for it.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 11 May 2022, 11:24:19
What a weird keyboard.
I'm down to buy one.
Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Faceman76 on Wed, 11 May 2022, 14:56:08
Let's go!!!!

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Title: Re: [IC] Clunker - 40% with half numrow, knob, and solenoid
Post by: Faceman76 on Fri, 13 May 2022, 14:51:02
Just pre-ordered!  I can't wait.

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