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Title: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: xiaoxiaoQAQ on Mon, 11 May 2020, 10:58:18
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Hello everybody
Thank you very much for your supports and responds. This is the updated ic post for JTK Avocado.


GB dates: TBD
Pricing: TBD
Vendors: TBD
Manufacturer:JTK double&triple-shot


Design

I love avocados. I mean, who doesn't love avocados? Okay maybe... not everyone... but you have to admit, not only they are healthy, but the colours they have also look very pleasing. Nowadays, we have avocado-coloured cars,  avocado-coloured clothes and even fridges, why not bring them on our keyboard?

The colours of this keyset are taken straight from an avocado. Iconic avocado green legends over greenish-blond and dark reddish-brown coloured alpha base and modifier base. With the keyset on, your keyboard just looks like a fresh cut avocado!
 

 No avocados were harmed during the design process.



Updates:

1. New kits
Since some people are asking for a green color themed alphas kit and also the first version of the kits have some problems( ie. some unneeded keys could have been removed), I then decided to re-think about what to put in each kits. Me personally is not a big fan of having too much kits(which could be really frustrating when deciding which kits to buy).

So in order to simplify the kits, JTK Avocado will only be having 4 kits: Green Alphas kit, Yellow Alphas kit, Modifiers kit and Spacebars kit. Novelties will be included in the alphas kit and modifiers kits.


2. Icon kits removed.
I have decided to remove the icon kit which I have designed before. Since new icons will needs new moulds and will lead to a rise in price, JTK Avocado will be using the icons that JTK already have(Same to JTK Arctic's Icons). I will try my best to lower the price.

3. About the yellow colour that I have chosen.
Many of my friends keeps worry about that the yellow color that I have chosen because it is similar to GMK Corsa's color. And GMK Corsa is a keyset that wasn't selling very well since the color looked so much different in real life comparing to the renders. To prevent this (Actual product colour different from renders) from happening, after the group buy is closed, JTK will send me color samples that they have ordered from the factory which makes raw ABS plastics. If the samples aren't accurate enough, I will let JTK to ask them to re-adjust the colours until it meets my standards. Also, all my renders are done by myself and the colours are chosen from Pantone colours

4. Added another deskmat design.

Colours
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New Kits

Alphas Green

Green alphas kit with Novelties included
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Alphas Yellow

Yellow alphas kit with Novelties included
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Modifiers

Modifier kit that supports most layouts. With Novelties included
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Spacebars

More spacebars to support your exotic layouts
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Preview of Alphas kit + Modifiers
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Two deskmats that I have designed

Keyboard: DolchCR by Cary Works
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New Renders

Bear by Jackey

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Fuji 65 By Sakura Studio(NightSakura & Mellperbia)
Link to the IC post on zFrontier: https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/epwK8z1NjwYd

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Tartan 65 by Joyeux

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PAD@Left-980 by 夏大勇 aka: xia

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Please feel free to fill out our New Interest Check Form!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXXolKqXO6aiJDVOhDkDtERzuKrk4nR3Gt4KfuKlJa2H0ttw/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXXolKqXO6aiJDVOhDkDtERzuKrk4nR3Gt4KfuKlJa2H0ttw/viewform?usp=sf_link)


Thank you very much!
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Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: BapoDonu on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:03:34
Good use of triple shot
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:13:26
Really dig this set OP! Gonna keep my eye on this one & I agree with BapoDonu, really good use of JTK's tripleshot capabilities! Not every tripleshot set has to have sublegends.

Edit: Any chance of getting an extra B key in the spacebars kit for us Alice layout users?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: xia0ti on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:17:36
Im IN
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: DrHigsby on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:47:49
Alright, I'm gonna need an avoCATo novelty please. For the fans.

I'd also be interested in seeing an inverted alphas kit.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: dlavelle94 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:03:53
Find the set interesting, will be following.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: hkhawk on Mon, 11 May 2020, 14:34:58
The novelties are beautiful!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 11 May 2020, 18:01:47
Alright, I'm gonna need an avoCATo novelty please. For the fans.

I'd also be interested in seeing an inverted alphas kit.

I didnt even know this was a thing but now its a deal breaker if we don't get it.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Merloobi on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:19:42
Love the mat, in for one of those!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: PoohGom on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:25:39
Ooooooh very nice design! I especially love the novelties! I am very interested! Any chance for an alpha colored spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: xiaoxiaoQAQ on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:48:03
Ooooooh very nice design! I especially love the novelties! I am very interested! Any chance for an alpha colored spacebar?
Yes, currently I am thinking of reverse coloured alphas and accents since many people are worried about the light yellow colour will look similar to GMK Corsa Auto(which I guess are not in many people's favour).

Thank you for your response!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: TaurusTrades on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:53:47
Yes, yes, yes. especially love the desk mat  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:14:49
very handsome, i like it a lot
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: tofulo on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:24:05
love the novelties
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Rayndalf on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:03:50
The tripleshot novelties are incredible. Any chance for a basic ortho kit? The icons are legible but still general enough that planck compatibility might just need a couple more keys.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 12 May 2020, 03:31:35
gmk kerrysgold
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Tomothy on Tue, 12 May 2020, 20:17:15
I'm sold on this set, count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:33:04
 brings all the hipsters to the yard!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: LovesThe on Wed, 13 May 2020, 19:52:04
A very pleasing aesthetic. The colours look very good, and nice novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: wil on Wed, 13 May 2020, 22:47:13
it's a small thing, but i'd recommend losing the shadows on the deskmat. they just make me think i've spilt something.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 14 May 2020, 07:51:25
A stepped Caps Lock is curiously missing from the base kit. JTK has the tooling for that keycap (as seen in previous JTK sets), so I guess you forgot to include it?

Are you planning for your set to support 40% boards? If not, you should remove the 1.5u and 1.75u space keys. But good on you for including 3u.

The mod-colored R1 1u \| key can be removed (see here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103904.msg2903219#msg2903219)).

The second 1u Ctrl and Fn keys can also be considered superfluous:

The Delete icon seems unnecessarily complicated. If Backspace is a leftwards harpoon arrow (https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/arrow-symbols/#harpoon-arrows) with barb downwards (), why not use the same arrow, just rightwards (), for Delete?
I'm not a huge fan of the Shift and Caps icons either, but I know how hard it is to come up with a good design for those that's different to what we're used to seeing.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: xiaoxiaoQAQ on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:11:45
A stepped Caps Lock is curiously missing from the base kit. JTK has the tooling for that keycap (as seen in previous JTK sets), so I guess you forgot to include it?

Are you planning for your set to support 40% boards? If not, you should remove the 1.5u and 1.75u space keys. But good on you for including 3u.

The mod-colored R1 1u \| key can be removed (see here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103904.msg2903219#msg2903219)).

The second 1u Ctrl and Fn keys can also be considered superfluous:
  • 2× 1u Ctrl — Used on OG 1800 (https://www.computeruniverse.net/images/1000/90313972F6A8229D39454779B916962B.jpg) keyboards, but not seen in modern 1800/CP layouts. Can be removed if there's no plan to support 40% boards (and if there is, it should be in the 40s kit instead; but even this is debatable as not many 40s use 2× 1u Ctrl).
  • 2× 1u Fn — The only use that I can think of outside of 40% boards is as Fn2 on M60-A–like HHKB layouts. But I don't think that's common enough to warrant including this key. It can also be removed or moved to a 40s kit (although for 40s it'd be better to have Lower and Raise instead of 2× Fn).
  • 2× 1u Alt — It's fine to keep this because of the 2× 1.5u Code keys.

The Delete icon seems unnecessarily complicated. If Backspace is a leftwards harpoon arrow (https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/arrow-symbols/#harpoon-arrows) with barb downwards (), why not use the same arrow, just rightwards (), for Delete?
I'm not a huge fan of the Shift and Caps icons either, but I know how hard it is to come up with a good design for those that's different to what we're used to seeing.

Thank you very much for all of your advice! This was my first time designing keycaps and I admit there are lots of improvements needs to be done. Will start changing some of the kits and icons right now. Thank you again for pointing out what could be improved!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Owl on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:35:14
Really fun colors and intuitive use of the tripleshot on those novelties. Super cool mat and great kits. This isn't the set for me but this is no doubt going to be a hit. Excellent job OP.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: rabbbit on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:38:11
really good, absolutely in

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Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: jmsp0511 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 16:49:00
I really like the over all colors! it's a very soothing green theme, I really like the deskmat too
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: L8T on Sat, 30 May 2020, 17:27:10
As a millennial it is my duty to support this set.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: rabbbit on Wed, 03 June 2020, 16:43:16
anyupdate

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Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Bonsa on Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:03:18
I love the novelties.
I would like to see an ortho/40 kit too.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: Luciqueii on Fri, 05 June 2020, 15:54:08
Wow :D
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado
Post by: xiaoxiaoQAQ on Fri, 31 July 2020, 13:37:34
Wow :D
Thanks XD
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Lizcuits on Fri, 31 July 2020, 18:46:15
While I really love your idea of the secondary alphas color, it looks awfully similar to GMK Hero with the green ones: https://kono.store/products/gmk-hero

I don't think you should cancel the idea or anything, just wanted you to be aware!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: DrHigsby on Fri, 31 July 2020, 19:17:02
Hot dang. You absolute mad lad! Inverted alphas! I love it!

My wallet is ready.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: fish_oh on Fri, 31 July 2020, 21:17:20
Anyone knows anything about this keyboard PAD@Left-980 by 夏大勇 ??

Tried googling and searching but found nothing.

Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: BapoDonu on Fri, 31 July 2020, 21:24:59
Nice update,not sure how it is with JTK but it might be better to offer 2 base kits instead of 2x alphas and 1x mods
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: xiaoxiaoQAQ on Sat, 01 August 2020, 02:55:17
Anyone knows anything about this keyboard PAD@Left-980 by 夏大勇 ??

Tried googling and searching but found nothing.

Check this link :https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/D7XWmBaqEro6
However the group buy has already ended... And since its mainly focused on Chinese market, they don't have an discord server yet... only QQ groupchats...
Thank you for your interest!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: vi0till on Sat, 01 August 2020, 02:57:20
Any chance to get tripleshot version of alpha kit witth sublegend something?

Also, in the Baer65 render can see the additional B for alice layout, but dont see in the alpha or spacebar kit.

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Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: fish_oh on Sat, 01 August 2020, 07:12:45
Any chance to get tripleshot version of alpha kit witth sublegend something?

Also, in the Baer65 render can see the additional B for alice layout, but dont see in the alpha or spacebar kit.

Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk

Thanks for the link.
Shucks...thought I could get in on it.  Damn...
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Heist Morty on Tue, 06 October 2020, 14:04:44
any updates on this? would still love to see this set come to fruition
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: hkhawk on Mon, 12 October 2020, 15:23:32
any updates on this? would still love to see this set come to fruition

Pun intended?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Jyll on Mon, 23 November 2020, 19:02:53
With all the green boards coming up, it’d be great to see this set get made!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Avocadough on Tue, 24 November 2020, 03:23:01
I'm sold... count me in  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: DrHigsby on Wed, 13 January 2021, 17:39:34
Any updates on this project? I am looking forward to it!  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Vegas_ on Wed, 13 January 2021, 23:05:33
very nice design! tastes like guacamole..
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: slavastartsev on Fri, 15 January 2021, 11:44:21
Colors are so nice. I need it!
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Tue, 19 January 2021, 09:04:21

almost a year has passed, there is no information ...
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: 傻子 on Wed, 24 March 2021, 08:44:38
FINALLY, IT IS COMING
according to JTK,the group buy may start at end of this month in China. But Kono has started GB ?
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 09 April 2021, 00:33:40
Live on Kono (https://kono.store/products/jtk-avocado) March 23rd to April 28
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: aleeex on Fri, 09 April 2021, 16:46:01
Very cool - JTK is the way
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Fri, 23 April 2021, 08:28:27
So this is selling on Kono, and I don't see an official GB thread for it.  Is there anywhere we can reliably go to for information?  The avocado channel on the JTK Discord has been awfully quiet too.

Mostly I'm just curious how close we are to MOQ, among other things.
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Tue, 27 April 2021, 16:05:17
just in time,a year of silence, and an abrupt launch, without any additional information  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 06 May 2023, 17:42:26
Just noticed this is again for sale on Kono.  Anyone know if it's in-stock or pre-order?
https://kono.store/products/jtk-avocado
Title: Re: [IC] JTK Avocado - Updates: New kits & Renders
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 08 May 2023, 10:58:39
Just noticed this is again for sale on Kono.  Anyone know if it's in-stock or pre-order?
https://kono.store/products/jtk-avocado

So the GB orders finally got shipped some while ago without any fanfare. I would expect those are in-stock.