in for the pinkLol of course you are.
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.
Do you mean the black on gray with the orange (I think? Or red) escape, on the wooden background? If so, that's just a keyset that was put on the prototype, not a rendered keyset.
I apologize if I'm misunderstanding you!
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For more background information on the project
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.0Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9XeuT5u.jpg)
First of all I would like to apologize for the delay in launching the GB. Lots of details need to be finalized, Chinese New Year preparation and also my brother's family visiting from New Zealand. It has been an intensive week for me.
The prototype we made is perfect. The Kustom elements added to it by yuktsi blended really well with Rama's design. An actual board tells a lot more than just renders, in this case. Everything was very different from how I expected EXENT would be. The board weighed reasonably nice, it sits sturdily on my table and the height is just right. Most important of all the actual board looks a lot more buff. It looks like a gangsta when sitting next to any TKL. I love it very much. ntw couldn't stop touching it.
It has been pointed out by many that it's unrealistic to just add a few dollars on top of the cost. The poly-carbonate bottom and stainless steel feet are really difficult to be machined. There are chances of defective parts during production that has to be accounted for. We also foresee the unavoidable import tax on the GMK set. The initial design fee and cost of prototyping was sunk cost and were not costed into our selling price.
Due to the circumstances we had to place 10% increment to our original proposed price, for contingency purposes (toughest decision I ever made in my life). EXENT is something I wish to do for the community. 2016 was an amazing year for me because of you guys. XOXO
Engineering SampleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/BzvmNqE.jpg)
more http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m (http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m)
DesignShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VG6XQQP.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jNHEp9d.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YV3hbEw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Asg14LW.jpg)
GMK KeysetShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/CTcAAsP.png)
We are still waiting for the render with ISO and more keys
LayoutsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)
Finish
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/W1HOAR0.jpg)
SilverShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pKLt7Nf.jpg)
GreyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/WlZlAC5.jpg)
BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/4S4DVOJ.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/TbjKmC4.jpg)
Tech Specs
Material: 6 series Aluminum (top housing), Polycarbonate (bottom housing), Stainless steel (feet)
Dimension: 140 x 400 mm (5.5 x 15.7 inch)
Angle: 8 or 12 degree
Weight: 1.6kg (3.5lbs)
PCB: Developed based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI with permission from Winkeyless.kr
Price
- Exent Basic Kit: from $198 (inclusive of housing, plate and PCB)
- Exent Premium Kit: from $275 (inclusive of basic kit, stabs, switches and GMK Keyset)
Additional Parts
- PCB $35
- Aluminium plate $30
- Brass plate $55
- 8 deg feet $25
- 12 deg feet $40
- Polycarbonate bottom case $50
- Aluminum bottom case $80
Ill take one in each colour please. Delivered to my doorstep by amos. With angpao. ThxK
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How do we order two boards? I wanted to have two sets of options for this, but it only lets me submit one form.
How do we order two boards? I wanted to have two sets of options for this, but it only lets me submit one form.
Incognito mode is your friend.
Wait, a question- do I need to have a polycarbonate bottom to retain the lighting to the ground?Yes
Are there no options for MOD switches (for an extra fee of course)? I thought it was hinted that there would be, both on geekhack and reddit. That was the biggest attraction to the Premium kit for me :(.
EDIT: Also, there was mention of a Factory Assemble option for premium kits. Did that fall through, or am I just missing something on the order sheet?
Finally, I don't see any details about the stabilizers. I'm assuming they aren't screw in, and there's no way to order screw-in stabilizers with the Premium kit?
This is my first group-buy, so sorry for any silly questions. Really excited about this; I'm in love with the grey color. Very happy it appears to be more of a carbon-grey than a space grey (although I'll be fine it it turns out to be space grey too).
Actually, I've only read the 1st page of the form thus far but is factory assembly still being offered or did you opt out of that? Additionally how's the shipping being handled, is it still being proxy'd by people in the UK/US for EU/NA orders?
3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?The plate material will affect the feel of the keyboard. The brass should feel stiffer/less flexible than the aluminum. People seem to generally prefer brass and steel for linear switches and aluminum for tactile.
Ill take one in each colour please. Delivered to my doorstep by amos. With angpao. ThxK
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3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?The plate material will affect the feel of the keyboard. The brass should feel stiffer/less flexible than the aluminum. People seem to generally prefer brass and steel for linear switches and aluminum for tactile.
Hmm that's interesting.
So I take the strongest/least flexible switch plate is NOT always the best and there are suitable/more preferred switch plates for different switches?
I've seen some people prefer Poly carbonate plates- how do they feel?
Poly carbonate is like the plastic that Samsung uses a lot on their phone, correct?
I wish someone had identical 4 keyboards with different switch plates from brass, aluminum, poly carbonate, and carbon fiber! :D
Would you say if I was going to go for Vintage Cherry MX Black/Brown or Zealious 62/65g I should go for aluminum switch plate?
Would brass too stiff for tactile switches and poly carbonate not as good as aluminum?
Very interesting.. never thought about all these before and this is making me a headache lol
Hmm that's interesting.
So I take the strongest/least flexible switch plate is NOT always the best and there are suitable/more preferred switch plates for different switches?
I've seen some people prefer Poly carbonate plates- how do they feel?
Poly carbonate is like the plastic that Samsung uses a lot on their phone, correct?
I wish someone had identical 4 keyboards with different switch plates from brass, aluminum, poly carbonate, and carbon fiber! :D
Would you say if I was going to go for Vintage Cherry MX Black/Brown or Zealious 62/65g I should go for aluminum switch plate?
Would brass too stiff for tactile switches and poly carbonate not as good as aluminum?
Very interesting.. never thought about all these before and this is making me a headache lol
So I haven't tried comparing identical boards, but I have tried putting tactile switches on my steel plate board and found that I didn't like it at all, and I didn't like linear switches until I tried them on that steel plate.
For the tactile switches(tried greens and zealios) I think the issue was bottoming out on steel felt really harsh and sudden.
Polycarbonate and carbon fiber should be more flexible than aluminum.
I personally bottom out a lot harder on tactile switches than I do with linear switches. I think its because of the extra force I use to overcome the bump/click.
Wouldn't the bottoming out be even harsher on a steel plate when using linear switches?
I personally bottom out a lot harder on tactile switches than I do with linear switches. I think its because of the extra force I use to overcome the bump/click.
Wouldn't the bottoming out be even harsher on a steel plate when using linear switches?
1. MOD switches?
2. Factory Assembly?
3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
4. ETA for GMK render?
P.S. Can we please get a a video of the engineering sample? I'd really love to hear how it sounds.
I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?
Thanks
I think that since its based on ps2avrGB it should be fully RGB.I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?
Thanks
I'm sure it's not just white, I'm however less sure whether it is fully RGB configurable or just a few colours you can scroll by.
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!I think slash emperor is buying 1 M65 and 2 EXENTs
Anybody here buying both?
How dark is the grey finish, anyone know? In the render it looks closer to the black than the silver, and I really like that, hoping the actual product will be equally dark?? before I commit.
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!I am! Ordered in grey, hoping to put SA oblivion on this and GMK Penumbra on my M65. I'm going to be waiting a while. Very excited nonetheless!
Anybody here buying both?
Any chance the GMK set can have keys for split spacebar?Oh yeah, I forgot that I would definitely need that :thumb:
Any chance the GMK set can have keys for split spacebar?
Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? In case we change our mind about choosing black when we might want the grey, even though we probably want the black, despite really being drawn to the grey, but deciding ultimately that the black will match better in more circumstances and with a wider range of keycaps, even though the grey would be a unique color compared to all the black electronics I already have, but black. But grey. But black?
Some good questions in here. Consolidating with latest info.
Maybe OP can create a FAQ at top.
1. MOD switches?
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2. Factory Assembly?
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3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
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4. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
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5. ETA for GMK render?
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6. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
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7. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
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8. Is underglow LED configurable?
Probably yes. Not sure if full RGB or fixed colors.
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!I think slash emperor is buying 1 M65 and 2 EXENTs
Anybody here buying both?
Some good questions in here. Consolidating with latest info.
Maybe OP can create a FAQ at top.
1. MOD switches?
?
2. Factory Assembly?
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3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
?
4. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
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5. ETA for GMK render?
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6. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
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7. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
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8. Is underglow LED configurable?
Probably yes. Not sure if full RGB or fixed colors.
If you do make some renders could you share them?Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? In case we change our mind about choosing black when we might want the grey, even though we probably want the black, despite really being drawn to the grey, but deciding ultimately that the black will match better in more circumstances and with a wider range of keycaps, even though the grey would be a unique color compared to all the black electronics I already have, but black. But grey. But black?
This has been me the past 18 days. I've even tried making renders with my favorite keysets (and failing spectacularly). The ultimate first-world problem.
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.Same here
What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. I think you don't really have to worry about it in the US? Feels like its people in Europe who always end up with issues.
What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. I think you don't really have to worry about it in the US? Feels like its people in Europe who always end up with issues.
Ordered 1x Grey base kit with PC bottom @ 8° tilt.
Planning to pair this with GMK Terminal if all goes well.
Q: I was curious if the 12° option also includes the 8° foot? If not, can we buy both?12° doesn't include 8°, you can buy both though.
Q: Also what brand are the different stabilizers?
Are the only layouts the ones seen on the layout image? Can we expect three 1u keys (as shown on the prototype) instead of the two 1.5u keys on the bottom row?I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the IC thread that 3 1u would be supported, don't remember exactly where though. It was one of the first pages though.
Q: I was curious if the 12° option also includes the 8° foot? If not, can we buy both?12° doesn't include 8°, you can buy both though.
Q: Also what brand are the different stabilizers?
What kind of difference can I expect between standard and screw-mount stabs? I'm assuming the backplate or PCB allow for the screw holes for the latter? What are your preferences?It's just how the stab is mounted to the PCB.
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.
I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?RGB are configurable by using BootMapper. Standard win keyless firmware
Thanks
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.
And, if we already used the form, can we change it after when the mod switch options are added?
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juahenza, just to confirm, we can submit the order now and pay in Feb? (Payment deadline 28th February 2016)
January has already been devastating on my wallet so an extra few weeks to come up with the money would be super helpful, and it also sounds like there will be the option of adding MOD switches (which are not currently on the order form.)
how is GMK gonna support those split-spacebar layouts? hmmm???
Is it just me, or is the colored plate (Black, silver, blue, pink, etc.) a bit transparent?
Is it just me, or is the colored plate (Black, silver, blue, pink, etc.) a bit transparent?
Can we buy more than one?
Can the under-light shine through if we get the metal bottom?
Who is this? :eek:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)
Who is this? :eek:.. who is it?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)
How can we order extra parts?Have you tried the google form? Hmm
How can we order extra parts?
How can we order extra parts?Have you tried the google form? Hmm
No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.How can we order extra parts?Have you tried the google form? Hmm
Oh sorry, I'm stupid, looks like it's all there :D
I was just afraid to press "next" because I might want to change the color later on
I also want to buy both the poly bottom and the metal bottom, is that possible?
Can we buy more than one?
Can the under-light shine through if we get the metal bottom?
So I picked up the prototype from the factory a week ago. It was an exciting moment for me to finally place my hand on the fruits of labors from many people.You are the boss! Seriously, the assembly could have been better if you didn't use those mx grey.
After assembling the EXENT, I compared it with other custom keyboards I have. The machining for the EXENT is programmed in a way that all curves and sides from the design are translated perfectly into the end product. The anodizing is also done with such perfection that I think its on par as the Dolphin and even better than my 360C.
Typing on the EXENT feels way premium than it costs. The aesthetics of the keyboard was designed to look classy and outstanding from the current line of keyboards available in the market.
There was a major concerns from the team regarding the stability of the keyboard. We were worried that the sides will tilt too easily. It turns out the combination of aluminium top, polycarbonate bottom and stainless steel feet give enough weight to the keyboard that it is stable as a rock.
Another concern was the thick bezels on the EXENT. Its a homage to the vintage apple keyboards styling but we were worried that its won't get enough appreciation from the community. The bezels doesn't affect the usability at all but gives a rather comforting resting space for your palms. I thought I was the weird one out to be typing this way, but turns out yuktsi enjoyed the extra palm resting spot on the keyboard too. I am now sure that the bezels are working out aesthetically and practicality.
Overall I felt that EXENT not only feels like a premium custom keyboard with a an statement. Its clean and unique design will look like an art piece on your desk. But who am I to judge, right?
Can I still edit my previous submitted form?
No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
I can?Can I still edit my previous submitted form?
I dunno, can you?No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
I can?
Still trying to decide on a color :-\
I can?Can I still edit my previous submitted form?
I dunno, can you?No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
I can?
He can. Point was he would've known if he'd have scrolled up a couple posts haha
Still trying to decide on a color :-\
FTR, I can't. I filled out the form yesterday, wanted to edit, and only get a new (blank) form.
Edit: Doh. Ninja'ed by a few seconds.
I quite like GMK even it is ABS material its quite solid and well engineered. Just so you know, if you buy the GMK set and decide you don't want it later I'm pretty sure it could easily be sold to someone who would give it a loving home (i.e., reddit.com/r/mechmarket)
Keycaps black? Or more greyish like they appear in the renders?
Black or Silver?! BLACK OR SILVER!??! :confused:why not both since you can't decide now? Just give one to your friend later.
Black or Silver?! BLACK OR SILVER!??! :confused:
Black or Silver?! BLACK OR SILVER!??! :confused:why not both since you can't decide now? Just give one to your friend later.
$360 for two TKL sized boards, that's...
Black or Silver?! BLACK OR SILVER!??! :confused:
Grey!
Who is this? :eek:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)
So handsome~
Black or Silver?! BLACK OR SILVER!??! :confused:
Grey!
Oh man. I know. :'( Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through? I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate. If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that. Thanks all!
The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.
Oh man. I know. :'( Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through? I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate. If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that. Thanks all!
The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.
Sorry if it has been mentioned previously but is there a weight estimate for the board with the alu lower?
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.
I can?
He can. Point was he would've known if he'd have scrolled up a couple posts haha
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.
Planning for Oblivion is an odd thought given that it's most likely going to land next year. Plenty of other boards in between.
juahenza - how would you prefer those who wanted to edit their forms but are unable to, to proceed? Should we just fill out a new form?Just fill a new form and put a remark at the note section.
juahenza - how would you prefer those who wanted to edit their forms but are unable to, to proceed? Should we just fill out a new form?Just fill a new form and put a remark at the note section.
Is it possible to buy just an extra top plate?Sorry, I am afraid that is not possible.
Figured I'd update (and rearrange) the question list that rmendis started. Anything in brackets are my notes. I'll try to keep this comment updated when answers are posted and I get spare time.Thank you for the effort. I've updated the second post of this GB thread with FAQ based on your compilation. Will update that from time to time.MoreANSWERED QUESTIONS:
1. How long will the GB be open for and when is payment due?
I've seen this question a few times. Answer is at the bottom of the original post, under "Project Timeline".
2. MOD switches?
Form has been update. MOD-L and MOD-M are available now for +$40.
3. Factory Assembly?
No, new manufacturer doesn't seem to offer it.
4. ETA for GMK render?
No ETA. Sherryton/the team will keep us informed as details develop.
5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
Only an ISO enter has been confirmed. [I would expect more keys, but we'll have to wait on the renders from GMK]
6. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
In the order form you can choose PCB Mount or Screw In. [no answer to second half of question]
7. Is underglow LED configurable and RGB?
Yes, through BootMapper Client winkeyless.
8. How do we order two boards?
You can now submit another order form. Might have to pay a second shipping charge though; try asking about that in the Note section on page 3 or contact jau.
9. Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? If we already used the form, can we change it?
Kind of. People are having mixed results doing so. Seems like if you order more than one or wait a while before trying to edit it, you are unable to.
10. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. Typically not necessary for USA residents.
UNANSWERED QUESTIONS (6):
1. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
2. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference? Does one let the LED light shine through more than the other?
3. When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout? Are these extras standard or screw-in?
4. What brand are the stabilizers?
5. How dark is the grey finish? The photoshop example looks more black that it does dark-silver.
? [speculated that the finish will look more like this http://i.imgur.com/liwOndP.png]
6. Will the GMK set in the Premium kit support the split spacebar layout?
7. Will the GMK set ever be sold seperately, like on the Originative store?
Who is this? :eek:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)
So handsome~
More like Han Some :)Black or Silver?! BLACK OR SILVER!??! :confused:
Grey!
Oh man. I know. :'( Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through? I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate. If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that. Thanks all!
The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.
Deciding between 8deg and 12deg feet. Could somebody provide a comparison for reference? I typically use all keyboards with the feet engaged and my daily driver is an HHKB using the tallest feet. Thanks!12 deg is for you then :-*
The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?blackish grey
Are the only layouts the ones seen on the layout image? Can we expect three 1u keys (as shown on the prototype) instead of the two 1.5u keys on the bottom row?I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the IC thread that 3 1u would be supported, don't remember exactly where though. It was one of the first pages though.
edit: found it https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.msg2336146#msg2336146
FAQ
5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with?
The keys shown in the existing render + 4 keys for ISO + 3 keys for split spacebar.
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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I have two questions, one dumb on and one technical one:
1. I'm a total n00b: what three keys would I need to achieve the split spacebar? 3u, 2u, and 1.25u? Or 2.75u, 2u, and 1.5u? Something else entire?
2. Since this is based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI, what keymap would I use if I'm following this tutorial http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183? keymap_gb_B87(EX).hex? Or will the keyboard have it's own keymap and instructions that will be published for us to reference?
You need a 2.75 1.25 and 2.25. easy was to remember is that it adds to be the same as 6.25 spacebars.
If they don't release a new keymap then that one should be right
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
MiTo Canvas or Granite
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
MiTo Canvas or Granite
Mito Canvas here.
Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...
GMK HoneywellSo I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.
Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.
Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.
The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?blackish grey
I believe so. They are more accurate in representing the actual color than small anodized piece. I think.The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?blackish grey
Do you guys have a sample? I am really torn between black/grey/silver. I assume the pics in OP are just renders?
I have two questions, one dumb on and one technical one:the keymap will be provided for the PCB and it has its own set of instructions (how to enter boot loader mode).1. I'm a total n00b: what three keys would I need to achieve the split spacebar? 3u, 2u, and 1.25u? Or 2.75u, 2u, and 1.5u? Something else entire?
2. Since this is based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI, what keymap would I use if I'm following this tutorial http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183? keymap_gb_B87(EX).hex? Or will the keyboard have it's own keymap and instructions that will be published for us to reference?
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.
Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.
Wow just realized how amazing GMK Lazer would look on the pink Exent: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85585.0
I feel like I'm gonna have to buy one in every color.
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
MiTo Canvas or Granite
Mito Canvas here.
Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...
Damn Canvas will match the grey top plate really well. I'm super tempted to get the grey also, but I think Penumbra and/or Round 6 will go better with black or blue.
Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...Grey is better
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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.
In other news - I'm worried my order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
MiTo Canvas or Granite
Mito Canvas here.
Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...
Damn Canvas will match the grey top plate really well. I'm super tempted to get the grey also, but I think Penumbra and/or Round 6 will go better with black or blue.
Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.
Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.
Haven't typed on them yet, but I think it's my next switch. Didn't think about the Fosens, but maybe I'll consider those instead.
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.
Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.
Wow just realized how amazing GMK Lazer would look on the pink Exent: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85585.0
I feel like I'm gonna have to buy one in every color.
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not. :-\I'd just wait and try to nab a dasher specialty set on r/mechmarket after it drops.
If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not. :-\
If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.
I doubt this is at all possible, but is there any chance of getting a beige colorway for the anodization? Or are things set as they are? I think quite a few people would be interested...
I doubt this is at all possible, but is there any chance of getting a beige colorway for the anodization? Or are things set as they are? I think quite a few people would be interested...
I'd definitely be interested, but I think its a little late at this stage m8.
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?
Is it possible to buy just an extra top plate?
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not. :-\
If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?
This is not really a church board. I'm pretty sure that animatronic bobblehead-caps that sing _We Are The Champions_ at top volume wouldn't be overkill.
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?
This is not really a church board. I'm pretty sure that animatronic bobblehead-caps that sing _We Are The Champions_ at top volume wouldn't be overkill.
Think I just found a new end game.
No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).
They are meant to be a little more matte/dull than the conventional silver anodise we see.No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).
I agree about the picture of the silver board, but I'm guessing it's because four of the five pictures are edited versions of the original, where the color has been altered. I think the black is the original, and the other four are edited. Maybe starting with black makes all of the other colors a little less vibrant?
I don't know, but I'm guessing silver will be closer to what we typically see in "silver" on other boards.
Matte of the KMAC2 style?kmac2 isn't really that matte. More LZ Iron kinda matte.
No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).
I was banking on rose gold for the EXENT, myself, since it was initially going to have that option and I committed to Hydro Blue instead of Rose Gold when I submitted my M65-A form (back when it was still a raffle instead of an open GB). Figured I'd get my rose gold fix with the EXENT to make up for it.
I was banking on rose gold for the EXENT, myself, since it was initially going to have that option and I committed to Hydro Blue instead of Rose Gold when I submitted my M65-A form (back when it was still a raffle instead of an open GB). Figured I'd get my rose gold fix with the EXENT to make up for it.
Oh no! Guess it's too late to edit your M65-A order? That really sucks.
I'm really interested in getting into this group buy, however as this would be my first custom keyboard GB if I commit, I have the following questions:
- If I order this keyboard with certain switches, say the MOD M which isn't that well known yet, how easy would it be to change them to something else if I don't like them or they break? Is it just a matter of desoldering them and soldering in different switches?
- Regarding the bottom case type options, do they affect the underside lighting at all? Or can I only get underside lighting if I choose the sandblasted poly-carbonate option over the aluminum ones?
- Also what's the difference between the standard and screw-in stabilizers and which ones should I get?
I'm really interested in getting into this group buy, however as this would be my first custom keyboard GB if I commit, I have the following questions:
- If I order this keyboard with certain switches, say the MOD M which isn't that well known yet, how easy would it be to change them to something else if I don't like them or they break? Is it just a matter of desoldering them and soldering in different switches?
- Regarding the bottom case type options, do they affect the underside lighting at all? Or can I only get underside lighting if I choose the sandblasted poly-carbonate option over the aluminum ones?
- Also what's the difference between the standard and screw-in stabilizers and which ones should I get?
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?yes
Is there a way to review an already submitted order? I am considering pre-ordering a second board, but want to know, and can't remember, some of the options I chose the first time around
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?yes
yes
Just got refunded for a playing card project on Kickstarter for near $400, I have no excuse not to get a second one now so I can have Black AND Grey...What was it? Just wondering what would cost 400
Just got refunded for a playing card project on Kickstarter for near $400, I have no excuse not to get a second one now so I can have Black AND Grey...What was it? Just wondering what would cost 400
Oh, these look pretty cool. I might try to get a set.
This project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/legal-tender-currency-inspired-playing-cards for the two legacy editions for each deck. I have been heavily collecting playing cards for years, this designer is one of the best in the community, but I am trying to move away from that collection
Oh, these look pretty cool. I might try to get a set.
This project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/legal-tender-currency-inspired-playing-cards for the two legacy editions for each deck. I have been heavily collecting playing cards for years, this designer is one of the best in the community, but I am trying to move away from that collection
Yeah, they're premium, some of the best cards you can get for your money.
So what is everyone's thoughts on stabalizers? Standard or screw in?
... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.
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All top/bottom case and the feet are CNC milled.So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?yes
yes
Okay good. Wanted to make sure it wasn't cast. Def gonna join now.
Updated!Oh :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)
Ahhh.Updated!Oh :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)
No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)
Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Hi there, we can't possibly offer all the keys in the supported layouts. The price of GMK keys are no secret, this is the best we can offer.Updated!Oh :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)
No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)
Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Hi there, we can't possibly offer all the keys in the supported layouts. The price of GMK keys are no secret, this is the best we can offer.Updated!Oh :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)
No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)
Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Btw bro, I couldn't find your order form submission in the google sheet. Do you mind filling the form again? Thank you =)
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.
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What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:
Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink
I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.
Oh, that's a shame. I will definitely participate if any of your future XXX board comes with a keyset.Hi there, we can't possibly offer all the keys in the supported layouts. The price of GMK keys are no secret, this is the best we can offer.Updated!Oh :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)
No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)
Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Btw bro, I couldn't find your order form submission in the google sheet. Do you mind filling the form again? Thank you =)
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.
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What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:
Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink
I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.
Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.
Still deciding on a color...
Still deciding on a color...
When in doubt, black. :thumb:The black does look really nice, but almost all my boards are black. Maybe that's just because it always looks good haha. :-\
What's your favorite keyset? Gotta pick the color that matches. ;)
Still deciding on a color...Pink is love, pink is life
When in doubt, black. :thumb:The black does look really nice, but almost all my boards are black. Maybe that's just because it always looks good haha. :-\What's your favorite keyset? Gotta pick the color that matches. ;)
Well I am in GMK Soware and waiting on SA Oblivion, those would probably look good with silver or grey.
I'm probably going to use this board at work and I'm not brave enough for pink in public. I'd take a pink TGR-910 though ;).Still deciding on a color...Pink is love, pink is life
Not GMK though! Red accents are super tasteful too.:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.
Oh, that's a shame. I will definitely participate if any of your future XXX board comes with a keyset.:-*
All the best my bro :thumb:
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(
$30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town... What was I thinking?
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(
Reminds me of when I was a sugar daddy of a 20 year old stripper. Everyone told me I was too old for that. I refused to believe it. She was super cute, made me feel young, we listened to the same music, and we had a lot of fun. Then after a couple months, I realized, I was indeed too old for all that. $30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town... What was I thinking?
Of course, I had a ton of fun, but it could never last... So yeah, take warning. If you want to have some fun for a few months as dude in your 30s, feel free. Your pink laser lady might just not last much longer than that!
I know the payment deadline isn't until 28 Feb, but when should we expect to be invoiced? I'd rather pay sooner than later.
I think invoicing after the submissions end will make sure it's more organized and allows people to make any changes to their order.I know the payment deadline isn't until 28 Feb, but when should we expect to be invoiced? I'd rather pay sooner than later.
Anybody?
I just want to make sure my order was received and I didn't somehow miss the invoice.
All top/bottom case and the feet are CNC milled.So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?yes
yes
Okay good. Wanted to make sure it wasn't cast. Def gonna join now.
It's going to be expensive to have a mold made for casting, with such low quantity.
I think... Hehe
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.
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What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:
Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink
I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.
Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.
Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:
Here's a horrible mockup for you:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)
Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:
Here's a horrible mockup for you:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(
Reminds me of when I was a sugar daddy of a 20 year old stripper. Everyone told me I was too old for that. I refused to believe it. She was super cute, made me feel young, we listened to the same music, and we had a lot of fun. Then after a couple months, I realized, I was indeed too old for all that. $30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town... What was I thinking?
Of course, I had a ton of fun, but it could never last... So yeah, take warning. If you want to have some fun for a few months as dude in your 30s, feel free. Your pink laser lady might just not last much longer than that!
I mean, but did you sell your girl off to another 30 year old guy? cause juah could ez sell laser to someone else if he got tired of it.
I just joined the buy. So I guess nothing gets charged till the GB is over? Never done this before.They will start invoicing soon. Should be fine as long as you paid before the payment deadline.
What's dull polished brass(switch plate) ? Do you get a picture?Like one of those brushed sus plate, but in brass.
I just joined the buy. So I guess nothing gets charged till the GB is over? Never done this before.They will start invoicing soon. Should be fine as long as you paid before the payment deadline.
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.
(Attachment Link)
What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:
Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink
I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.
Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.
Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:
Here's a horrible mockup for you:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fAsPwBq.jpg)
This suits me more :cool:
Ordered two!Thank you sir!
Just looking over the FAQ, so the the PCB supports split backspace, but the keyset doesn't?It seems like there isn't enough keys from the bundled GMK set for all supported layout.
Who do I talk to if I ****ed up my order?the thread starter juahenza?
Ordered two!Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro :'(Ordered two!Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!
It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?
Did you receive an invoice? I have placed two pre-order forms and have not received and invoice yet, I do not believe invoicing will happen until the deadline
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro :'(
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?
Did you receive an invoice? I have placed two pre-order forms and have not received and invoice yet, I do not believe invoicing will happen until the deadline
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro :'(Ordered two!Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!
It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro :'(Ordered two!Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!
It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
Oh, I think I have pressed the "send email" button. Maybe in your mail?
Edit: sent again as pm
Wait, have you started invoicing? I'm confused.
Wait, have you started invoicing? I'm confused.I've been wanting to start doing a little bit in the last couple of days, but I was just too busy.
Is there a photo of aluminum bottom? I wonder how uniform it will look.Unfortunately we don't have one in hand now.
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
My name is yuktsi, I have a keyboard problem too :confused:Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
Uhhhhhhh. No, I don't know anyone that would do that. Uh uhh. ;D
My name is yuktsi, I have a keyboard problem too :confused:Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
When I look at all the keyboards that I have, I don't feel using like any of them (Or I don't have a keyboard to use)
Like a girl with a closet full of clothes, but telling you she has nothing to wear :'(Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
Uhhhhhhh. No, I don't know anyone that would do that. Uh uhh. ;D
You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)My name is yuktsi, I have a keyboard problem too :confused:Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
When I look at all the keyboards that I have, I don't feel using like any of them (Or I don't have a keyboard to use)
That sounds an awful lot like my Steam library. 500 games and nothing to play.
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
On another note, any way I can edit my submission? I'm thinking about getting the setup with the caps.
You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)
You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)
Slide them wallies into my DMs homie, those are sick
I just took them from the OP. I wish I had them in a little bigger resolution, the one on the left I had to upscale and it looks a little iffy.
I just took them from the OP. I wish I had them in a little bigger resolution, the one on the left I had to upscale and it looks a little iffy.
Ah yea, I'd just seen the sized down forum version of the screenshot so thought you'd converted them or found them in proper wallpaper resolution. I need to ask one of them people that do all sorts of wallpapers of Rama's designs (they're mostly over on Reddit I think)!
You may send me a PM <3Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...? :-X
I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking :-X
His name was MythicalWagyu.
On another note, any way I can edit my submission? I'm thinking about getting the setup with the caps.
If I buy two top cases, can i exchange it with screwdriver instead of welding tools?yeah. You can disassemble the board with screw driver. :thumb:
Will there be an option for the GMK set to support WKL?
Seems silly to only be 3 keys missing for compatibility for a common layout.
whoa... just stumbled into this..............................
my wallet, oh my wallet!
edit: can someone explain the stab options - standard vs screwed in?
Is there any additional info on the PCB?any info you would like to know about the PCB?
Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
Is there any additional info on the PCB?any info you would like to know about the PCB?
Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
not too sure about the plate, but the PCB does not have the required screw mounting holes of the TADA68.
Is there any additional info on the PCB?any info you would like to know about the PCB?
Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
not too sure about the plate, but the PCB does not have the required screw mounting holes of the TADA68.
any info you would like to know about the PCB?
any info you would like to know about the PCB?
Where will we eventually find instructions to program it? Printed on a piece of paper included with the board, or here in this thread? Or is it exactly the same files and instructions as the B.87 as described here http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183) ? For some reason this is the one question that weighs on my mind the most and that I haven't gotten much of an answer on (other than a vague "it will be available").
It seems the PCB uses bootmapper so it will be like Winkeyless.kr's other keyboards. Its very easy to program them.
Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!
Which switches provide the most calories?Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!
Welcome. Can I interest you in group buys? You can join as many as you like. Don't worry about food and shelter. You will be OK.
Which switches provide the most calories?Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!
Welcome. Can I interest you in group buys? You can join as many as you like. Don't worry about food and shelter. You will be OK.
custom keymap file. to enter boot mapper,just hold one of the key and plug in the USB (i forgot which key i map it too, i think it's backspace)It seems the PCB uses bootmapper so it will be like Winkeyless.kr's other keyboards. Its very easy to program them.
Right, I'd just like to know if it uses the B87 hex file or a custom one. And if we're going to get instructions (such as the key combo to put it in boot mapping mode) with the shipment or if it will be posted else elsewhere. Guess it doesn't matter though; a rather minor thing. Just haven't heard anything so I thought I'd ask.
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so :thumb:
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so :thumb:
This. I need this. GMK Snes with Silver ExentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/rJMrq4T.jpg)
Decided to see Grey (http://i.imgur.com/oSGgEhC.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/oSGgEhC.jpg)) and Black (http://i.imgur.com/kOtf8Pq.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/kOtf8Pq.jpg)) also. I'm undecided!
Even the Silver extent with the default keycaps mimics an NES controller pretty well with the silver border, darker inlay and red highlights.
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so :thumb:
Can't. I get a new empty form every time. Which is why I was asking. :-/
Just submit another one or you may pm Juahenza about it :)I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so :thumb:
Can't. I get a new empty form every time. Which is why I was asking. :-/
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any
And so on. It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render. I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.
If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine. It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images. If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it. Don't you want to show it off? I'm so confused...
Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for. I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding. If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any
And so on. It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render. I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.
If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine. It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images. If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it. Don't you want to show it off? I'm so confused...
Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for. I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding. If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
MoreSo the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any
And so on. It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render. I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.
If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine. It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images. If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it. Don't you want to show it off? I'm so confused...
Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for. I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding. If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.
There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)
Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any
And so on. It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render. I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.
If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine. It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images. If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it. Don't you want to show it off? I'm so confused...
Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for. I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding. If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)
Yeah! Reduced from 22 to 18 for better light distribution.Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent. What gives?
Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any
And so on. It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render. I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.
If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine. It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images. If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it. Don't you want to show it off? I'm so confused...
Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for. I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding. If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)
Is that 18 LEDs?! :D
Is that 18 LEDs?! :DYeah! Reduced from 22 to 18 for better light distribution.
This is very close to closing and I am considering buying extras. Quick question... how does the plate fit the top housing? Can it fit other cases similar to Whitefox or the Ramabae65/ JC65?I am not sure about whitefox or JC65. The internal of the EXENT is similar to most Kustom, where the plate is mounted to the top housing.
Mayhap I paid an invoice :rolleyes:Thank you bro <3
Mayhap I paid an invoice :rolleyes:Thank you bro <3
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.Mayhap I paid an invoice :rolleyes:Thank you bro <3
Invoices have gone out?
So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?You'll have to solder the switches in along with installing stabilizers.
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.Mayhap I paid an invoice :rolleyes:Thank you bro <3
Invoices have gone out?Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/e7/13/f1e7135dfb5810abed95993f26e1637e.jpg)
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.Mayhap I paid an invoice :rolleyes:Thank you bro <3
Invoices have gone out?Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/e7/13/f1e7135dfb5810abed95993f26e1637e.jpg)
Ah man, no idea how to do that. Is it difficult? Is it possible to take it somewhere for someone to do? I probably sound like an idiot haha, apologies.So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?You'll have to solder the switches in along with installing stabilizers.
Ah man, no idea how to do that. Is it difficult? Is it possible to take it somewhere for someone to do? I probably sound like an idiot haha, apologies.
It's not difficult at all, since all the smd components come pre soldered. You should total try it out yourself first.Ah man, no idea how to do that. Is it difficult? Is it possible to take it somewhere for someone to do? I probably sound like an idiot haha, apologies.So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?You'll have to solder the switches in along with installing stabilizers.
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.Mayhap I paid an invoice :rolleyes:Thank you bro <3
Invoices have gone out?Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/e7/13/f1e7135dfb5810abed95993f26e1637e.jpg)
Thanks Pixel and juahenza, I'll try and make a project out of it but if I don't have the time I'll end up at a computer repair store or something! Worth it for the board :)I'd say if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself you'll probably have better luck contacting someone here or over on /r/mechmarket to do it for you. There are plenty of reputable people that offer assembly services for very reasonable prices.
Hi, this is my first group buy and I submitted my order on Feb. 20. I read invoices have gone out but I still have not received one. Will I get the invoice through paypal or in a PM? When will all the invoices have been sent?The invoices are expected to be all out in 24 hours. Once they are all out, I will post an update here.
Are the invoices going out via email ?
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...
No invoice here yet. He did say he would make a post here when invoicing is complete.
SilverShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pKLt7Nf.jpg)
I sent in a form for a Fullkit, but I haven't received an email with any confirmation.... really don't want to miss out.
The invoices are expected to be all out in 24 hours. Once they are all out, I will post an update here.
I still haven't received an invoice
How concerned should I be?
I still haven't received an invoiceI haven't received an invoice either, but juahenza said they would post once all invoices were out so I think we're ok. I hope. I'll be super sad if I messed up something on the order and don't get an invoice :-X
How concerned should I be?
I still haven't received an invoiceI haven't received an invoice either, but juahenza said they would post once all invoices were out so I think we're ok. I hope. I'll be super sad if I messed up something on the order and don't get an invoice :-X
How concerned should I be?
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.
I'm sure that's true, but my concern is that "all invoices were to be sent out within 24 hours." Obviously it's been longer than that.
Not at all trying to say that there isn't a lot of work to be done and stuff to go through, it's just conflicting information that's got me anxious.
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.
I'm sure that's true, but my concern is that "all invoices were to be sent out within 24 hours." Obviously it's been longer than that.
Not at all trying to say that there isn't a lot of work to be done and stuff to go through, it's just conflicting information that's got me anxious.
I agree, but I'll just stay chill until "all invoices HAVE gone out" and I haven't gotten one, even then I'm sure it'll be taken care of just fine.
I haven't received my invoice. Halp.
Just to be sure, everyone else who ordered here and still doesn't have a paypal invoice, did you get any confirmation email or something when you ordered? Because there is none, I'm kind of worried about whether my order even went through. Or is there any other way to check that you indeed have placed an order?
Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.
Yes you are right. Sorry guys, I am still in the middle of invoicing, please ignore NTW.Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.
If you view the invoice you received (before paying), you should be able to see the line items for the Exent options you selected in the spreadsheet.
Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.
If you view the invoice you received (before paying), you should be able to see the line items for the Exent options you selected in the spreadsheet.
Already paid my invoice but looking it over again I've got a question, when it says "Silver color anodized aluminum +$30" that is the 30 to upgrade to the aluminum bottom right?Hello, yeah you are right.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
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Am I the only one not excited to get and pay my invoice? Love the board but could do without this whole paying thing ;P
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
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Probably because I am not that young anymore. :confused:
Not using my VE.A, don't really like the typing feel.Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
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Probably because I am not that young anymore. :confused:
But are you using your VE.A ergonomic keyboard?? ;D
Thanks for working on these tho, sounds like a pain!
Not using my VE.A, don't really like the typing feel.Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
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Probably because I am not that young anymore. :confused:
But are you using your VE.A ergonomic keyboard?? ;D
Thanks for working on these tho, sounds like a pain!
I think it's my mouse that was causing the pain! =/
My invoice is incorrect, please see slack :)Send me a PM here. Faster.
PM'ed for invoice detailsHey bro, I don't see any msg from you.
99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.
Once again, thank you all for joining!
Omg...I can't believe I missed this... is it too late to join???
Bro, I still don't see any PM from you. :rolleyes:99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.
Once again, thank you all for joining!
PM'd for corrections to invoice
Bro, I still don't see any PM from you. :rolleyes:99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.
Once again, thank you all for joining!
PM'd for corrections to invoice
I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.Bro, I still don't see any PM from you. :rolleyes:99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.
Once again, thank you all for joining!
PM'd for corrections to invoice
Mine too? :(
I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.
Next week is fine if you can't make it before the deadline. Thank you.I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.
We still have another like 12 hours to pay the invoices correct? I'm gonna be out most of the day as I have some stuff to tend to, I'm not really sure which time zone we're following hence my asking.
Next week is fine if you can't make it before the deadline. Thank you.I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.
We still have another like 12 hours to pay the invoices correct? I'm gonna be out most of the day as I have some stuff to tend to, I'm not really sure which time zone we're following hence my asking.
I've also managed to get my invoice paid!when is your birthday? :eek:
Now for the wait on my very very very early birthday gift to myself :))
when is your birthday? :eek:
Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!
There are some pretty good videos on youtube by whitefiredragon.Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!
Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.
Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
There are some pretty good videos on youtube by whitefiredragon.Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!
Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.
Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
I will share some later.
he has been mia for some time I thinkThere are some pretty good videos on youtube by whitefiredragon.Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!
Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.
Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
I will share some later.
the last videos i saw from wfd were ollllllllllllld. has he posted anything recently?
Exent prototype PCB arrived ;DDarn, I should've bought an extra PCB to use it caseless, it looks awesome.
Purple and gold
Exent prototype PCB arrived ;D
Purple and gold
Exent prototype PCB arrived ;D
Purple and gold
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.
Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.
Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.
Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.
Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?
I'm not sure what you mean, but the EXENT keyset fits the EXENT keyboard perfectly. There are extra keys for spacebars and ISO keys as well.
Right but I'm not buying the Exent/GMK set. I'm putting something else on. Ergo, I don't have two R4 1.5 u keys or a R4 1.75u shift.
Right but I'm not buying the Exent/GMK set. I'm putting something else on. Ergo, I don't have two R4 1.5 u keys or a R4 1.75u shift.
I personally am having a hard time understanding what you're saying/asking. The PCB covers the layouts pictured and the GMK keyset accurately displays every key available. How's any of this confusing? If you're putting a different key set on it then make sure it comes with two R4 1.5s and a 1.75u rshift - how's this complicated?
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.
Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.
Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?
Whether the plate supports it? If so, the layout graphic should be updated to include that layout right?
Exent prototype PCB arrived ;D
Purple and gold
Exent prototype PCB arrived ;D
Purple and gold
The question is, does the Exent PCB and switch plate allow it?
Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.
Reading these comments was pretty entertaining haha; I wish I would have checked this thread earlier. I immediately knew what PancakeMSTR was trying to ask and might have been able to clear some things up.Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.
Here's a link to a pic of the prototype brass plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pnjnAou.jpg)It's completely open on that right side of the spacebar. Assuming nothing changes from the prototype it looks like you can achieve this layout as long as the PCB supports it (and I think others have confirmed it does).
EDIT: And what a gorgeous PCB that is. Whew. I bought a second one in case I screwed up the first one somehow during my build, and I'm glad so. Best case scenario I can just look at the spare and admire how pretty it is.
Reading these comments was pretty entertaining haha; I wish I would have checked this thread earlier. I immediately knew what PancakeMSTR was trying to ask and might have been able to clear some things up.Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.
Here's a link to a pic of the prototype brass plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/pnjnAou.jpg)It's completely open on that right side of the spacebar. Assuming nothing changes from the prototype it looks like you can achieve this layout as long as the PCB supports it (and I think others have confirmed it does).
EDIT: And what a gorgeous PCB that is. Whew. I bought a second one in case I screwed up the first one somehow during my build, and I'm glad so. Best case scenario I can just look at the spare and admire how pretty it is.
Jesus christ.
Yeah thanks, looks like what I wanna do will work.
Wow though kinda regret not getting the brass plate now. Holy goddamn.
Exent prototype PCB arrived ;Ddope af
Purple and gold
who is "QUADCUBE" ?
who is "QUADCUBE" ?
who is "QUADCUBE" ?hi ;D
who is "QUADCUBE" ?hi ;D
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photoThe one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.
Finally, I paid up! WOOOT WOOT!Thank you bro.
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photoThe one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photoThe one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.
:( Sadness.
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photoThe one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.
Why did the order form say dull polished brass then? To me that does not mean brushed finish, but I'd be happy to hear others' opinions. People paid $30 extra for a polished brass plate, so if after payment it is now not polished, please share the reason.
Now I'm wishing I had ordered two instead of just one. :confused:
Now I'm wishing I had ordered two instead of just one. :confused:
Two? Don't be ridiculous.
Any sane person would want 3. ;D
I... only ordered one. Not sure if I'm insane or just a filthy casual.
I... only ordered one. Not sure if I'm insane or just a filthy casual.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
A Photoshop I made after Bro announced the new gamer sets. Exent + GMK Cyrillic + Brocaps Murderface Gamer set.
(Attachment Link)
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I couldn't :-[
Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser
And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I couldn't :-[
Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser
And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!
So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.
Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I couldn't :-[
Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser
And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!
So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.
Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.
Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I couldn't :-[
Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser
And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!
So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.
Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.
Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.
Yeah, I've thought about that. I probably could have bought two exents and two F77s and sold the spares each for what I paid for both and essentially broken even, but it's just too much anxiety to be honest. Mostly I suppose I'm just glad that if I decide at some point getting into keyboards was stupid, I can sell everything for at least what I paid, if not (possibly significantly) more.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I couldn't :-[
Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser
And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!
So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.
Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.
Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.
Yeah, I've thought about that. I probably could have bought two exents and two F77s and sold the spares each for what I paid for both and essentially broken even, but it's just too much anxiety to be honest. Mostly I suppose I'm just glad that if I decide at some point getting into keyboards was stupid, I can sell everything for at least what I paid, if not (possibly significantly) more.
Don't worry, it was stupid regardless ;). I think most of us share the similar outlook.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.
My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.
My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction
That sounds terrible.
I guess I'm lucky: silver silver silver only thing I'm ever interested in. Goes for all (aluminum housed) keyboards. Blue with Dasher (or dancer? Whichever) is tempting, admittedly, but I didn't buy that set anyway so doesn't much matter.
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.
I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.
My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction
That sounds terrible.
I guess I'm lucky: silver silver silver only thing I'm ever interested in. Goes for all (aluminum housed) keyboards. Blue with Dasher (or dancer? Whichever) is tempting, admittedly, but I didn't buy that set anyway so doesn't much matter.
It's okay, it happens to me too, I just kinda sugarcoated the stress and process in picking colors. E8-V1 and the MIRA were even more stressful, had me actually agonizing over choices/options for a bit.
Personally, this board, more than any other coming my way, has me pondering all the different configurations possible. That is my idea of fun. So two Exents...? More fun? Or a cry for help? According to "rustywok" logic, if one Exent is a very good thing, surely two must be a very, very, very good thing.Show Image(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/scout222/Doublemint1_zpszaw6dt6k.jpeg?t=1489440404)
Personally, this board, more than any other coming my way, has me pondering all the different configurations possible. That is my idea of fun. So two Exents...? More fun? Or a cry for help? According to "rustywok" logic, if one Exent is a very good thing, surely two must be a very, very, very good thing.Show Image(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/scout222/Doublemint1_zpszaw6dt6k.jpeg?t=1489440404)
Can't hotlink from photobucket, afaik
looking for someone to take over my order
Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) + Dull polished brass
looking for someone to take over my order
Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) + Dull polished brass
What color?
Is this GB still open?!?! some please let me know
Is this GB still open?!?! some please let me know
It is not still open.
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?Yeah it is. :thumb:
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?Yeah it is. :thumb:
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?
Link?
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?
Link?
Google.
https://world.taobao.com/item/546714072033.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.nOBTuK#detail
Any status update on the group buy?
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
Don't tease!!! ;)
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
Don't tease!!! ;)
I mean according to paypal it was updated with the tracking # and set as "shipped"
I'm so hyped ;D
watyeah idk that's why i'm asking
That sounds like an error on paypal's part, there's absolutely no way these are shipping.
Any status update on the group buy?
I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
Tempting. Do you have any actual photos of the keys yet? I might have missed it, but all I've seen are renders and a photo of only the ESC key.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
Yes please. I have two Premium kits on order, would it be possible to add the bonus keys for both?
Not really interested in a full set but I wouldn't mind some other ESC/enter accent colored keys. Not sure how possible that would be.+1
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
We have a lot of extras made due to the large MOQ. The boards are already in production already. Don't worry.Any status update on the group buy?
I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.
Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong. Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
Does that mean we can get extra bottoms and plates later or just extra keyboard kits?We have a lot of extras made due to the large MOQ. The boards are already in production already. Don't worry.Any status update on the group buy?
I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.
Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong. Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
Is it possible to upgrade if we didn't buy premium originally? The lack of support of other layouts was a deal-breaker for me. I'm not really interested in the other premium stuff, just want the full keycap set.
We have a lot of extras made due to the large MOQ. The boards are already in production already. Don't worry.Any status update on the group buy?
I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.
Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong. Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?
1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
Is it possible to upgrade if we didn't buy premium originally? The lack of support of other layouts was a deal-breaker for me. I'm not really interested in the other premium stuff, just want the full keycap set.
I'd like to know this as well. I passed on the keyset due to lack of compatibility but I'd have picked it up if this was the case.
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #. :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #. :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.
I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged orders
You can pregenerate shipping labels pretty far in advance of actual shipping with USPS
Mine does this sometimes and I noticed it all depends on my form of payment. My bank account and 2 cards have verified addresses through PayPal and 1 of my cards doesn't. If I use the card that doesn't have the address linked it shows up as not verified. Might be different than your situation though.got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #. :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.
I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged orders
Thanks. Much appreciated. I noticed that my Paypal account has recently been labeled "unverified" when it's been a "verified" account for the last 8 years or so. (Hopefully that's not bouncing me out of raffles because it's not true.) Time to rattle PP's cage and see what is up. I've been using Paypal much more then usual for all these group buys. That and a recent burst of MM aftermarket purchases coupled with a lot of eBay camera buys might have flagged me. Hopefully it's random and not something screwy in the system.
Very likely that's what happened. Sounds right. Bank account and a couple of cards here as well. Thanks. I'll watch what happens when I change funding sources.Mine does this sometimes and I noticed it all depends on my form of payment. My bank account and 2 cards have verified addresses through PayPal and 1 of my cards doesn't. If I use the card that doesn't have the address linked it shows up as not verified. Might be different than your situation though.I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged ordersgot a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #. :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.
Thanks. Much appreciated. I noticed that my Paypal account has recently been labeled "unverified" when it's been a "verified" account for the last 8 years or so. (Hopefully that's not bouncing me out of raffles because it's not true.) Time to rattle PP's cage and see what is up. I've been using Paypal much more then usual for all these group buys. That and a recent burst of MM aftermarket purchases coupled with a lot of eBay camera buys might have flagged me. Hopefully it's random and not something screwy in the system.
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Is it possible to add on a brass plate to my order?
Ah cool, thanks for that. :)Is it possible to add on a brass plate to my order?
It seems like when everything with the main order is settled we'll have a chance to add on to what we've got. I had been waiting to see if I could add an additional aluminum base and was told that was possible. I'm sure we'll know prices and availability of additional pieces in the next month or two. <3
Any updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!
Any updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!They are working on the top now. There isn't really much to show at this moment, besides blocks of aluminum.
Any updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!They are working on the top now. There isn't really much to show at this moment, besides blocks of aluminum.
I will post some pic once the top is almost ready (as in when you can see the shape of it)
Haha. Have a nice week ahead guys!
Any updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!They are working on the top now. There isn't really much to show at this moment, besides blocks of aluminum.
I will post some pic once the top is almost ready (as in when you can see the shape of it)
Haha. Have a nice week ahead guys!
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)
;DAny updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)
;DAny updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!
Goddamn I'm so hyped for mine
I forgot to ask, but came to mind just now.We are looking to use Pos Malaysia (Ems?) for now. DHL and S.F. Express have pretty good deal for parcel over 3kg, so we might use them as well.
What shipping method would be used for this buy? I don't think the question popped up over the course of the thread. Feel free to correct me, though.
I am looking to pass my spot on to someone else. Base kit for a Black Exent
Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) $198 - Black $198.00
Stabilizers $6 per set (screw-in) $6.00 1 $6.00
Stabilizers $6 per set (standard) $6.00 1 $6.00
Shipping $40.00 1 $40.00
Fee $11.83 1 $11.83
Subtotal $261.83
Total $261.83 USD
http://i.imgur.com/7CfKURn.png
Message me here, on slack with the same username or /u/greychillstep on reddit.
I have already talked to Juahenza who approved the swap.
Hey guys,We still allow the color change for whoever taking over these orders.
Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!
Hey guys,
Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!
Hey guys,
Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!
I'd like to take over this order, but I don't want the keycaps. Possible?
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)
;DAny updates guys? :-* Show us some more pics!
Goddamn I'm so hyped for mine
I just send that order doc, any chance to get one?
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Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks
We did have have a small amount kept at PayPal for occasion like this, but the money is being held by PayPal =(
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)
Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.
The stickers only went to the people who's money was being held up by PayPal is my understanding.Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)
Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.
Did you get an email for tracking or any information before you received it? I'm in Toronto and was part of the Gb but haven't received anything yet. q.q. Can you share a picture or tell us what it was?
The stickers only went to the people who's money was being held up by PayPal is my understanding.Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)
Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.
Did you get an email for tracking or any information before you received it? I'm in Toronto and was part of the Gb but haven't received anything yet. q.q. Can you share a picture or tell us what it was?
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Ohhhh interesting, thank you! Would still love to see a picture if possible! (:
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Oh Senpai thank you! If you don't mind, what is that keycap set? Love at first sight.
Those were the same stickers I got that were pictured above, btw.
So what was the deal with the Paypal money holdup that resulted in this sticker thing?
Ooooh I see. Is there a contact person I could talk to, at least to thank them for the stickers and make sure my payment is in good shape? I'd hate to miss out on this board after dropping a ton of cash on it just because of Paypal weirdness.
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
If anyone is still looking to get rid of their order in black let me know. :thumb:
Isn't Originative going to be selling them?
Isn't Originative going to be selling them?
There are going to be some available through Originative afterwards, I believe that try purchased a couple through this group buy with the express intent of keeping stock and reselling. Prices will be inflated as a result though.
From what I know, they are exclusive to the Exent. They will not be sold outside of this GB.
Isn't Originative going to be selling them?
From what I know, they are exclusive to the Exent. They will not be sold outside of this GB.
I'm looking for someone to take over my order, it's a silver Exent with a silver aluminum bottom (base kit 198$, silver aluminum bottom +30$, shipping 40$ and fee 12.66$ for a total of 280.66$). Juahenza's told me it's still possible to change colour for someone taking over, though I assume you can't opt out of the aluminum bottom. Proof: http://i.imgur.com/6vcOSkh.jpg.
If interested, PM me here or on reddit (u/gauntz).
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going? Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.A few production photos would be killer.
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going? Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.A few production photos would be killer.
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)
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Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)
Can you do all the colors?
Black:<3Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)
Silver:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)
Grey:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)
Blue:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)
Pink:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)
Black:<3Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)
Silver:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)
Grey:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)
Blue:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)
Pink:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)
Black:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)
Silver:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)
Grey:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)
Blue:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)
Pink:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)
I did some pixel art too, I hope you don't mind. Here's the Exent with XDA Canvas, GMK Laser and SA DasherShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/IzRUfWb.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0KVIagN.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ALsTW9S.png)
I did some pixel art too, I hope you don't mind. Here's the Exent with XDA Canvas, GMK Laser and SA DasherShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/IzRUfWb.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0KVIagN.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ALsTW9S.png)
This makes me so excited to see what keys people end up putting on their boards!
SA Ashen:https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/sa-max-ashen . Can you maybe do a pixel art for that keyset? On silver.
SA Ashen:https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/sa-max-ashen . Can you maybe do a pixel art for that keyset? On silver.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o2Ok4T0.png)
Here you go!
Here's one of eachShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0TYPuzI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ak8ZLSo.png)
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going? Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.A few production photos would be killer.
I can feel the hype building.
We are still in schedule to start shipping in late June. I am too waiting for some pictures from the manufacturer. EXENT will be done by a different manufacturer.Anybody heard anything about how the production is going? Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.A few production photos would be killer.
I can feel the hype building.
also curious about this...
I saw m65 moving along on time, is Exent done by the same manufacturer?
We are still in schedule to start shipping in late June. I am too waiting for some pictures from the manufacturer. EXENT will be done by a different manufacturer.Anybody heard anything about how the production is going? Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.A few production photos would be killer.
I can feel the hype building.
also curious about this...
I saw m65 moving along on time, is Exent done by the same manufacturer?
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?God yes.
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
how does ortho layout look like?A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
I'd be interested in an ortho layout as well for both boards.
how does ortho layout look like?A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
I'd be interested in an ortho layout as well for both boards.
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Wow, quite a board to start with!Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Wow, quite a board to start with!Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
The LEDs aren't presoldered?
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
The LEDs aren't presoldered?
RGB underglow should already be attached, but individual in-switch LEDs for obvious reasons do not come pre-assembled.
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
I've been looking around for soldering tutorials and a few people have mentioned this guy. It's a 3 part you tube tutorial and the basic soldering techniques are really well explained. Not keyboard specific but still pretty valuable for people just starting out...of which I include myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611)
EDIT: The first two tutorials are the ones to watch. The third one is for more advanced soldering.
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
I've been looking around for soldering tutorials and a few people have mentioned this guy. It's a 3 part you tube tutorial and the basic soldering techniques are really well explained. Not keyboard specific but still pretty valuable for people just starting out...of which I include myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611)
EDIT: The first two tutorials are the ones to watch. The third one is for more advanced soldering.
Ahh thanks man! I was watching the series I found on input club but I will watch this now. You're the best!
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
OCD tendencies strong. I am super excited to start this. Going to pick up that Hakka 888 and make sure I get lots of use out of it. Love this community.Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
You will do great! My first was an ErgoDox (original) and the SMDs were difficult to learn on. Remember, heat the element (post) and push solder in. Don't heat solder and expect it to stick to a cold post. Try to keep solder for each switch to a minimum. Clean little cones of metal. Just shoot for those.
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
OCD tendencies strong. I am super excited to start this. Going to pick up that Hakka 888 and make sure I get lots of use out of it. Love this community.Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
You will do great! My first was an ErgoDox (original) and the SMDs were difficult to learn on. Remember, heat the element (post) and push solder in. Don't heat solder and expect it to stick to a cold post. Try to keep solder for each switch to a minimum. Clean little cones of metal. Just shoot for those.
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.
We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.
Keyboards are on track to ship late June
When is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Unfortunately for those who have opted for the premium kit, you will need to wait on the keyset.Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.
We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.Keyboards are on track to ship late JuneWhen is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Unfortunately for those who have opted for the premium kit, you will need to wait on the keyset.Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.
We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.Keyboards are on track to ship late JuneWhen is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Unfortunately for those who have opted for the premium kit, you will need to wait on the keyset.Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.
We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.Keyboards are on track to ship late JuneWhen is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
so.. what? sorry, i have not been tracking this lately. the premium kit is going to ship with a GMK set that does not support all the layouts that the pcb supports?
so.. what? sorry, i have not been tracking this lately. the premium kit is going to ship with a GMK set that does not support all the layouts that the pcb supports?
The GMK set is going to ship with the set that was listed with the premium kit, http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png
While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.
While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.
The GMK set covers a single layout in ANSI and ISO. So if you want the stock setup of the board, it works, otherwise, it doesn't. I don't see it covering anything 'usual' let alone anything unusual.
Exactly, what usual layout do you want this to cover? I see it's missing (please say if I'm wrong or missed anything):While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.
The GMK set covers a single layout in ANSI and ISO. So if you want the stock setup of the board, it works, otherwise, it doesn't. I don't see it covering anything 'usual' let alone anything unusual.
Those two layouts are pretty usual.
Maybe you're right. I suppose with the premium kit being only ~$80 more than the standard kit, and that's for more than just the keyset, I can only assume it was very price sensitive.
I wouldn't have minded seeing keys for a split backspace and a stepped capslock, other than that I'm fine with the set as is.
It would be cool to maybe see an add-on kit with some other options and maybe a few different colored accent keys, then again I already don't want to wait until August for this let alone the wait for more caps that I don't really need. :))
I wanna buy this keyboard...The group buy has been over for a while but there may be extras when all the shipping is done.
it is so complicated...I send GB. How can I buy this keyboard???
I wanna buy this keyboard...
it is so complicated...I send GB. How can I buy this keyboard???
Does anyone know how I might be able to change an option on my GB order? I tried contacting Sam by email but didn't get a response, is there someone that might be able to pm? Thank you
Does anyone know how I might be able to change an option on my GB order? I tried contacting Sam by email but didn't get a response, is there someone that might be able to pm? Thank you
Yeah, I emailed the pp email address several times without any response. Will try PMing. Thanksit can take some time (sometimes even a couple weeks) but I always get a response and they always solve my problem. Yuk Tsi has also been a big help. If you don't mind me asking what was the issue, maybe someone here can answer it for you.
I just wanted to change my base colorway from Grey to Silver, thanks for the help.:thumb:
Any new ETA since we are almost entering week 14? :)after I added my second base I was told shipping is on track for late June.
As we get closer, I become more unsure if I have all the information I need to make sure I can make this board as awesome as it deserves. Currently my order comes with the Gateron Blacks, but I've been more and more curious about Zealios switches. If I got the additional brass-plate, does that mean I would need plate-mounted switches? As I've stated in a previous comment, this will be my first true board, definitely first one I've had to build. Currently using a Glorious Modular, which is pretty great, but I haven't been able to justify the purchase of anything else until I get my hands on this (and return from vacation to California after next week.) I've been doing a lot of research into many aspects and will be purchasing a Hakka to ensure soldering goes as smoothly as possible. I'm just wondering if there's anything else I should be considering as we approach the end of production.Both pcb and plate mounted switches will work well on exent.
Love you all, this community is the place to be. Only been here since February, but I will probably never leave. <3
As we get closer, I become more unsure if I have all the information I need to make sure I can make this board as awesome as it deserves. Currently my order comes with the Gateron Blacks, but I've been more and more curious about Zealios switches. If I got the additional brass-plate, does that mean I would need plate-mounted switches? As I've stated in a previous comment, this will be my first true board, definitely first one I've had to build. Currently using a Glorious Modular, which is pretty great, but I haven't been able to justify the purchase of anything else until I get my hands on this (and return from vacation to California after next week.) I've been doing a lot of research into many aspects and will be purchasing a Hakka to ensure soldering goes as smoothly as possible. I'm just wondering if there's anything else I should be considering as we approach the end of production.Both pcb and plate mounted switches will work well on exent.
Love you all, this community is the place to be. Only been here since February, but I will probably never leave. <3
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)
I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)
I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)
You sure it's not the beer?
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)
I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)
You sure it's not the beer?
well, it was definitely hard because you were so handsome so maybe i was staring at you and not the exent.
Can love bloom on a keyboard forum? Yes.Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.
Thank you.
Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)
I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)
You sure it's not the beer?
well, it was definitely hard because you were so handsome so maybe i was staring at you and not the exent.
Hahaha... pls
I hope there are extras or someone backs out. I really want an endgame keyboard. I just missed sooooo many GB I woulda jumped on if I hadn't slacked on checking the forums >_<.
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Can love bloom on a keyboard forum? Yes.YES <3
I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T
Any idea on the number of kits sold in this GB?Not a lot. 100+
I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)I believe he had already corrected the address and responded to you :)) :))
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T
Any idea on the number of kits sold in this GB?Not a lot. 100+I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)I believe he had already corrected the address and responded to you :)) :))
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T
Where can we check the address we put down, for the order?You may check with Juahenza or me.
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
That machine is huge bro. Bigger than my room back in Hong Kong.As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
Please bring me that CNC machine brother! Looks like production is going great, cannot wait to have one in my hands :)
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
Yeah, there's actually another stack of them.As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
Thanks so much for sharing. I can only guess all those folded newspapers are Exents, so... we are nearly there?
And the feet in the third look hefty.
Yeah, there's actually another stack of them.As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
Thanks so much for sharing. I can only guess all those folded newspapers are Exents, so... we are nearly there?
And the feet in the third look hefty.
Does anybody know what kind of USB connector it has? I want to get in on the Miami Dolch cables on Massdrop.Mini
Thank yoU! :thumb:Does anybody know what kind of USB connector it has? I want to get in on the Miami Dolch cables on Massdrop.Mini
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested. Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate. Message me if you are interested....
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested. Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate. Message me if you are interested....
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested. Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate. Message me if you are interested....
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!
Nice! Looking forward to seeing it. I went for blue and shall be pairing it with Godspeed!Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!
That's my plan! With green LEDs.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing it. I went for blue and shall be pairing it with Godspeed!Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!
That's my plan! With green LEDs.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing it. I went for blue and shall be pairing it with Godspeed!Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!
That's my plan! With green LEDs.
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.
The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.
The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.
Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.
Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.
The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.
Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.
Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.
I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly. Any switches where this is less noticeable? I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!
That's my plan! With green LEDs.
I heard Panda's have nearly no wobble, you might want to check it out.That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.
The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.
Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.
Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.
I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly. Any switches where this is less noticeable? I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.
The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.
Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.
Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.
I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly. Any switches where this is less noticeable? I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.
I'd probably try a black or red; less moving parts?
Definitely not zealios. that **** wobbles like a bowling pin.
any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.
I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?
wobble has a minimal effect on typing experience IMHO..
SA/hi-pro caps will make this more noticeable
zealios do make the feelios and R4+ has improved on the wobbling
any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.I have a board with zealios and honestly the wobble does not affect me at all. The only time I notice it is when I rest my fingers on the keys and move them on purpose. To me they are perfectly fine.
I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?
I have zealios as well but only use DSA caps at the moment. I have never noticed any wobble so this comment is reassuring.any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.I have a board with zealios and honestly the wobble does not affect me at all. The only time I notice it is when I rest my fingers on the keys and move them on purpose. To me they are perfectly fine.
I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?
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Anyone know if the PCB is holtite compatible for switch and LED?
Anyone know if the PCB is holtite compatible for switch and LED?
This has been asked a few times and I don't think anyone knows the answer yet.
I can only guess the PCBs haven't been manufactured.
For the cost of holtites, I found it to be easier just to add an extra plate and PCB to my order. :))
For the cost of holtites, I found it to be easier just to add an extra plate and PCB to my order. :))
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.
I don't think it's even remotely possible for something of this value/volume to be sent (especially internationally) without tracking and insurance.
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.
I don't think it's even remotely possible for something of this value/volume to be sent (especially internationally) without tracking and insurance.
You'd be surprised. International shipping is like international bank wires. You just hope it makes it.
the order form is open, can i still buy a kit?
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.Looking good and can they finish on time?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
Any update on the shipping guys? Any kind of estimation would be really nice as its summer and it would suck to be away when it arrives.
Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...
Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...
It was said in the last few pages that the GMK kit would be ready in August, so we'll be waiting until then at least until ours ship.
I hear that! Last few parts I need are on their way, I'm ready to build.Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...
It was said in the last few pages that the GMK kit would be ready in August, so we'll be waiting until then at least until ours ship.
Yeah I saw that. Just not delayed beyond August! I can handle another month or so.
So are we at this point
1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above
So are we at this point
1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above
I'm actually typing this on a keyboard, so waiting for another one to ship, even if it takes longer than normal, isn't really hurting me at all
So are we at this point
1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
What key set do you have planned for Exent in your pixel signature?
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Oh sh..., It was a bait for the unfaithful, I swear.Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Shhhhhhhhh. The gods will hear you. >:D
Oh sh..., It was a bait for the unfaithful, I swear.Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Shhhhhhhhh. The gods will hear you. >:D
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
How are you guys doing?
Well, you know, using a framed printed picture of the black Exent prototype to cry myself to sleep at night until it arrives.
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
...
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
If you have such an amount of extras is it possible to change the color or buy an extra case?
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
If you have such an amount of extras is it possible to change the color or buy an extra case?
I am interested in this as well. In other news, I had to laminate my printed out picture of my extent because tears kept ruining it. Hope all is wells with you guys.
Possible. We can talk about that later. :thumb:YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
...
Would it be possible to add an extra color case to the order in that... case?
Will any of these extras be put up for sale at the conclusion of the GB? :thumb:I'm quite sure you should be able to snag one when extras come.
I think this board is very attractive. Sad I wasn't around to join it in january.
Will any of these extras be put up for sale at the conclusion of the GB? :thumb:Yeah I wouldn't want to keep the extras. They will be up for sale when this GB is concluded.
I think this board is very attractive. Sad I wasn't around to join it in january.
Any updates about the bottom?
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend. He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person. Can't wait!That's exciting!
THE HYPE IS REAL.
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend. He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person. Can't wait!That's excitingg!
THE HYPE IS REAL.
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend. He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person. Can't wait!That's excitingg!
THE HYPE IS REAL.
Exent in the wild and our glorious leader is keeping it a secret? :O (Attachment Link)
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.
Thank you ;D
Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?
Need to do this as well
I PM'd juahenza to change my shipping address.
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?
Need to do this as well
I PM'd juahenza to change my shipping address.
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
I would definitely get one. Juahuenza will answer hopefully.Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
I asked about a plate file back in the IC phase but never really got a reply that I remember. In any case, I planned on reverse engineering it and getting a couple other plates made myself. Issue with that is I don't want to sell anything without proper permission.
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
Dang it, I forgot about that, lfk78 had some %65 Alps PCB, but its not a centre port as you've guessed.Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
I can send you the plate and PCB layout file. Just PM your email.Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
I asked about a plate file back in the IC phase but never really got a reply that I remember. In any case, I planned on reverse engineering it and getting a couple other plates made myself. Issue with that is I don't want to sell anything without proper permission.
Dang it, I forgot about that, lfk78 had some %65 Alps PCB, but its not a centre port as you've guessed.Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
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Dang it, I forgot about that, lfk78 had some %65 Alps PCB, but its not a centre port as you've guessed.Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
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You're also forgetting that the LFK follows Varmilo's interpretation of the 65% form factor, with two additional rows that is spaced away from the main alpha cluster. I don't think you really thought your plans through...
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August
This is basically how I feel. An updated expected ship date would be pretty nice.
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August
This is basically how I feel. An updated expected ship date would be pretty nice.
An update on the GMK set would be appreciated as well, since i haven't heard any news about that for a while.
Still need to change shipping address and no word from Juahenza.Sorry bro, will reply you in a bit. Don't worry.Show Image(https://i.redd.it/9xfvbxoentdy.png)
Sorry bro, will reply you in a bit. Don't worry.
I see the order form is still open, are these all sold/shipped yet?
Is that legit? **** yes. ETA please.
Is that legit? **** yes. ETA please.
no eta
but its legit. it was on the instagram story.
i like it :thumb:
Guys, I can confirm that everything is in progress. We will come up with an update in awhile. Apology for the lack of update.
Guys, I can confirm that everything is in progress. We will come up with an update in awhile. Apology for the lack of update.
Don't worry about empty updates, it's a waste of your time and ours. I feel like we only need to know if something goes wrong or if the project is going to be more than a month or two late. 'We're on track, nothing of note to report' is just wasted effort.
Wow, was not expecting such a massive delay, that's quite the under estimate on the time to complete. How did you get so behind?
Seems keyboard won't been shipped until October :blank:
You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.
Second post in the thread was updated.You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.
How do we know this? Where is juahenza?
Second post in the thread was updated.You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.
How do we know this? Where is juahenza?
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well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...
well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...
I didn't get the GMK set - wasn't interested. I though the hierarchy was something to the effect of
First Shipment: No GMK, Polycarb
Second: (?) GMK, Polycarb
Third: (?) No GMK, Aluminum base
Fourth: (?) GMK, Aluminum base
I could believe third and fourth are in the wrong order. Or on identical schedules.
I didn't order mine to get it quicker, I just ordered what I wanted. It was an added perk that my selections mean receiving it faster. That may still be the case but I'm not excited to wait till October.
well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...
I didn't get the GMK set - wasn't interested. I though the hierarchy was something to the effect of
First Shipment: No GMK, Polycarb
Second: (?) GMK, Polycarb
Third: (?) No GMK, Aluminum base
Fourth: (?) GMK, Aluminum base
I could believe third and fourth are in the wrong order. Or on identical schedules.
I didn't order mine to get it quicker, I just ordered what I wanted. It was an added perk that my selections mean receiving it faster. That may still be the case but I'm not excited to wait till October.
There is no shipping hierarchy, and the polycarbs are being completed second per a previous post
Well I was under the impression that there was a hierarchy, at one point. This appears to have changed. Regardless, I'm not thrilled by October. Such is life, though.
Personally I've got no problem with the delay, delays are to be expected. The only thing that is a little annoying is that we are only finding out now.
Nope, there never was a hierarchy. Nothing changed. Regardless I'm sorry that was what you thought and it really would suck to find out that's not the case. October isn't so far off, I think once we have them it will be worth the wait.
And it's not going to be the last Keyboard project that is going to have delays and ship late, I suspect these delays aren't the worst we will see on future projects by other creators, and definitely not the longest delay we have seen before as a community by far.
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.
agreed. too many people apologizing for poor planning and lack of foresight in here.Nope, there never was a hierarchy. Nothing changed. Regardless I'm sorry that was what you thought and it really would suck to find out that's not the case. October isn't so far off, I think once we have them it will be worth the wait.
And it's not going to be the last Keyboard project that is going to have delays and ship late, I suspect these delays aren't the worst we will see on future projects by other creators, and definitely not the longest delay we have seen before as a community by far.
You're disagreeing with what the GB runner posted:Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.
If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.
On topic, I don't mind delays (and we've had multiple in this buy already let's don't kid ourselves) but going delay, delay, delay then "oops, we're still 2-4 months away from fulfillment" when we're already 2 months overdue is frustrating and unprofessional.
With the timeline as it is i don't think that the GMK set isn't going to hold back the ship date, considering the kit itself had more delays than the GMK set, which is more or less right on time.An update has been posted at the third post of this thread
I would really want an updated timeline, even if it is an estimate. I initially thought i'd have to wait multiple weeks for the GMK set to arrive before my kit would ship but it looks like the former would wait for the latter.
If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.
naw we definitely are entitled to updates especially since this run is running extremely behind.If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.
Who cares if I look foolish once in a while, out of the thousands of online posts I make in any given week, in front of maybe 15 complete strangers, that I will never meet, a fraction of whom will never even catch that I made a mistake in the first place, and which will be forgotten figuratively 15 minutes later and will be buried obscurely in hardly any more time that that. You caught me! How ever will I recover from what a fool I look like.
And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.
naw we definitely are entitled to updates especially since this run is running extremely behind.
"what gives you that entitlement"naw we definitely are entitled to updates especially since this run is running extremely behind.
Entitled by what? What gives you the entitlement? A casual, forum based, consumer run crowd funding project fell behind and their level of communication isn't matching a professional company level and you feel like they owe it to you personally to handhold you through the process because why? It's how you want it to be? **** doesn't work like that. Be happy it's a cool keyboard and you get to have one, there are a ton of people that weren't able to that would be super stoked just to be a part of the project and would gladly wait through radio silence just to get one even if it took until next year. It doesn't matter that they aren't communicating, all that matters is that the keyboard gets made. You aren't entitled to anything just because you preordered someone's side hobby on a niche forum in some random corner of the internet.
the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/
the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.
Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/
the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.
Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/
the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.
Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
Demorior clearly hasn’t been part of this community long enough to know how these things go. And handles the delay with teenage impatience.
Groupbuys are 90% not on time. Any communication is great. I have sometimes gone several months without hearing anything about the status or the reasons behind a delay. Some group buys even fail and you will not even see your money back.
Pleas just relax, calm down, grow up and look forward to the awesome keyboard you will receive this year.
Thank you.
Money has changed hands. Like it or not, this is a business transaction and there are certain reasonable expectations that come with it. They may not be "professionals" but the team behind this GB has an obligation to keep us informed. And it looks like they intend to do that, so everything is as it should be. /shrugIf you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.
Money has changed hands. Like it or not, this is a business transaction and there are certain reasonable expectations that come with it. They may not be "professionals" but the team behind this GB has an obligation to keep us informed. And it looks like they intend to do that, so everything is as it should be. /shrug
Money has changed hands. Like it or not, this is a business transaction and there are certain reasonable expectations that come with it. They may not be "professionals" but the team behind this GB has an obligation to keep us informed. And it looks like they intend to do that, so everything is as it should be. /shrug
You can have a reasonable expectation of without being entitled. I'm not being ridiculous, I just realize that giving someone money doesn't indebt them to me. Sure it's nice when there is information, but I don't care when there isn't. This isn't a medicine I need to live, where not getting it exactly when I need it will cause me harm. It's a toy, I would argue that it is a toy that literally everyone who is getting it already has at least one other toy that does the exact same thing this one does, so what if it's late, like nearly every crowd funding project of the nearly 200 I have been a part of (many of which have been offered by actually professional companies) has been. They don't have an obligation to keep us informed, it would just be swell if they did, but we aren't paying them for information; they have an obligation to deliver a product, you just have this assumption 'I want this so it should be this way because it's what I want' that makes you feel like they owe you information.
You can have a reasonable expectation of without being entitled. I'm not being ridiculous, I just realize that giving someone money doesn't indebt them to me. Sure it's nice when there is information, but I don't care when there isn't. This isn't a medicine I need to live, where not getting it exactly when I need it will cause me harm. It's a toy, I would argue that it is a toy that literally everyone who is getting it already has at least one other toy that does the exact same thing this one does, so what if it's late, like nearly every crowd funding project of the nearly 200 I have been a part of (many of which have been offered by actually professional companies) has been. They don't have an obligation to keep us informed, it would just be swell if they did, but we aren't paying them for information; they have an obligation to deliver a product, you just have this assumption 'I want this so it should be this way because it's what I want' that makes you feel like they owe you information.
ah yes, more people to apologize for people not doing their jobs. if you're going to run a group buy and take several people's money, you accept responsibility for that money. this community and group buys could be better if some accountability was put into place. if you think it's ok to not provide updates after several weeks have passed beyond the expected ship time please do not ever run a business or try to arrange a group buy yourself."don't be ignorant" ironic :-/
the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.
Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
Demorior clearly hasn’t been part of this community long enough to know how these things go. And handles the delay with teenage impatience.
Groupbuys are 90% not on time. Any communication is great. I have sometimes gone several months without hearing anything about the status or the reasons behind a delay. Some group buys even fail and you will not even see your money back.
Pleas just relax, calm down, grow up and look forward to the awesome keyboard you will receive this year.
Thank you.
ah yes, more people to apologize for people not doing their jobs. if you're going to run a group buy and take several people's money, you accept responsibility for that money. this community and group buys could be better if some accountability was put into place. if you think it's ok to not provide updates after several weeks have passed beyond the expected ship time please do not ever run a business or try to arrange a group buy yourself.
your issue is you think just because you're ok with not receiving updates and massive delays that everyone should also be, too. not how the world works, unfortunately.ah yes, more people to apologize for people not doing their jobs. if you're going to run a group buy and take several people's money, you accept responsibility for that money. this community and group buys could be better if some accountability was put into place. if you think it's ok to not provide updates after several weeks have passed beyond the expected ship time please do not ever run a business or try to arrange a group buy yourself.
It's not a job they are doing. And there isn't anything to indicate they aren't treating our money with the utmost responsibility. I'm just saying 'ok'/'not ok' doesn't play into the equation, it just doesn't matter. It's not causing a problem, it's not hurting anyone, it's not an important product that is going to disrupt the marketplace, it's a tiny hobby project that's taking longer than expected. Whooptidoo. Your money hasn't gone anywhere, your keyboard will show up eventually. And I have no doubts the creator will happily refund you if for some reason a surprise delay makes it impossible for you to exercise some patience.
It's not a job they are doing.
your issue is you think just because you're ok with not receiving updates and massive delays that everyone should also be, too. not how the world works, unfortunately.
It's not a job they are doing.
How is getting paid to design and produce a product not a job?
It's not a job they are doing.
How is getting paid to design and produce a product not a job?
Especially:
TGR
Aconic
RAMA
Originative
This isn't some neckbeard in his or her parent's basement (or at least it was advertised as being that way).
And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.
WTF? Any given one of us as over 200$ sunk into this. Most of us probably a lot more than that. I'm not gonna throw that kinda money at people who don't act professional, and they damned well do have an obligation to update us. Especially if they hope to have us join another GB of theirs. This isn't a ****ing charity here. Get your head out of your ass.
Wow I read some more of your comments. Your head is so far up your ass it's gone back up through your torso and neck and up into outer space. You're a goddamned moron.
I'm super patient and I usually am super understanding of delays and unforeseeable obstacles that pop up but honestly, Demorior has a point.
If things were handled better and people were held accountable for mistakes that happen (as they are with bigger businesses) then maybe things would be less sloppy. A delay of like 3 months should not be announced like the exact moment the product is meant to be starting to be sent out for delivery.
Can WE do anything about it? No. Am I annoyed that it's taking forever and that it was announced way too late? A little. Am I going to complain? No, I don't think it's really warranted, it sucks that the QC of the anode etc or what it was exactly had to be redone but I rather that than getting a ****ty finish.
Additionally, we don't know the details and don't know who should be held accountable for what happened - I feel raging at GB runners can be unfair depending on how exactly things went down. Whether or not this should be disclosed it another thing entirely.
A delay of like 3 months should not be announced like the exact moment the product is meant to be starting to be sent out for delivery.
but I'm not trying to rage at anyone in particular.
Get your head out of your ass.
Your head is so far up your ass
You're a goddamned moron.
isn't it reasonable to assume that they just wanted to wait to update us until they had the information on hand?
Ok, my weird 'consumers have no rights' dogma aside, isn't it reasonable to assume that they just wanted to wait to update us until they had the information on hand? I don't know if it would have been better if they had just messaged us saying 'there is going to be a sizeable delay, we don't have any information yet' and let peoples imaginations go wild.
but I'm not trying to rage at anyone in particular.Get your head out of your ass.
Your head is so far up your ass
You're a goddamned moron.
Looks like you're trying to rage very specifically at someone.
I'm not a moron for understanding that **** happens and not getting upset about it. For being a mature adult in accepting that there was a delay and not getting bent out of shape because there wasn't immediate coddling. I'm not a moron for having a healthier perspective on the situation that doesn't equate person's communication with the quality of their product, for realizing there would likely be delays ahead of time (which everyone seems to have expressed believing) and when they happened being able to say 'saw that coming' to myself instead of 'I demand information immediately or I'm not buying your **** again' to them.
I would thank everyone for being patient with us. All of you to be exact. We are discussing with the manufacturer now, to see if it's possible to deliver those bottom in batches by not affecting much to the cost. If that is possible, we will be able to start delivering earlier.
With only 3/5 of the MOQ is fulfilled, aggreesively priced kit, money being withheld by PayPal, the delays and also issues with the QC, these are clearly the things that I have underestimated, when I naively pull Sherry and Sam in, to "give something back to community".
I understand that the lack of communication in the last few weeks have been worrying for you guys, I will check in more often to keep you posted. And mentioned earlier, there will be an update at least from us every week.
Cheers, enjoy your weekend.
Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.
Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.
I'm betting you picked alu instead of PC eh? Nice attempt at trying to skip the queue :thumb:
Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.
I'm betting you picked alu instead of PC eh? Nice attempt at trying to skip the queue :thumb:
I don't remember if I ordered an aluminum bottom or not, but after seeing Rama's M65-A with an aluminum bottom I kinda really super want the aluminum bottom on the Exent <3
I have locked to Alu bottom at the first move since myself hate bottom lighting/RGB shine through.I don't remember if I ordered an aluminum bottom or not, but after seeing Rama's M65-A with an aluminum bottom I kinda really super want the aluminum bottom on the Exent <3
After seeing everything about RAMA's M65-A I really regret not getting one. There might be extra parts after this ships for people to get extra bits and pieces. I ended up getting one full kit for this and one barebones because I couldn't decide on just one color, or poly/alu bottom. Oh and because I have horrible financial prioritization.
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.Awesome!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.Looking good. :cool:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)
That dark gray looks amazing, so happy I went with it. The excitement is creeping up more and more everyday.
Damn these are turning out gorgeous hope there's extras too.
Still looking for someone to take over my order.sorry but no love for basic
Basic kit
Black top
Poly bottom
8° tilt
No extras
Basics are keyboards tooStill looking for someone to take over my order.sorry but no love for basic
Basic kit
Black top
Poly bottom
8° tilt
No extras
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.
I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.
I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.
If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.
I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.
I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.
If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.
Yes. Plastidip a perfect, gorgeous machined and anodized aluminum surface, because all of us the first thing we do when we get a nice thing is throw it into the dirt to give it that beautiful, covered in scratches dust and grime finish. I suggest you do that, and THEN plastidip it, just to extra ruin the keyboard.
If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.
I don't know what your PC budget is like but Caselabs sells a gunmetal gray case. Not cheap, but not that hard to source.
http://www.caselabs-store.com/magnum-sma8-customizable/
Also, it's my dream PC case. :) Next year, maybe. Good luck. Sounds like an interesting project, matching PC case and keyboard case.
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.
I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.
If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.
Yes. Plastidip a perfect, gorgeous machined and anodized aluminum surface, because all of us the first thing we do when we get a nice thing is throw it into the dirt to give it that beautiful, covered in scratches dust and grime finish. I suggest you do that, and THEN plastidip it, just to extra ruin the keyboard.
What are you even talking about? He is having second thoughts about the color and I offered a completely harmless and easy solution.
Sorry to break up the pointless bickering, but:So beautiful
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/)
Any more pictures? I'd love to see a silver case.The silver will come later, after pink and blue. I was informed that the pink was already ready on last Friday, didn't have the time to check though. Will most probably do it tomorrow.
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
So, so tempted for that purple!
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Got some of these today
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)
PinkShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)
Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Oh my, PMing.
Hi guys, I've just responded to all the address change pm/email. Haven't gotten the time to reply to those who requested for the purple top though. Will try to do it tonight or tmr morning. Thank you guys.How many of those purple one existed?
Less than 10 I'm afraid.Hi guys, I've just responded to all the address change pm/email. Haven't gotten the time to reply to those who requested for the purple top though. Will try to do it tonight or tmr morning. Thank you guys.How many of those purple one existed?
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
Is there a website or something that you use to generate these? I see them in people's signatures and would like some of my own!
Ah thanks! I'll look into it. :)In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
Is there a website or something that you use to generate these? I see them in people's signatures and would like some of my own!
People make them with MS paint. It's really not too difficult. If you're not so artistically inclined there's a pixel art thread somewhere full or these images (too lazy to find it), most common keyboards have already been done. If you have any specific requests feel free to PM me too, I think they're pretty fun to make.
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
Nice! I think you should add a purple exent with SA troubled minds, would be great I think :))
If there are any purple left, would it be possible to just buy it in addition to my existing order?
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
Awesome!! Can I have a pixel of silver Extent with Godspeed? ;D
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)
Awesome!! Can I have a pixel of silver Extent with Godspeed? ;DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/vFhOTx2.png)
Like this?
Edit: I got reply #1000. Woo!!
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.
How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.
How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?
Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A
I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.
How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?
Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A
I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.
There should be kits available after the GB. If you go back a page or two it was said that only 2/3 of the MOQ was filled and the other 1/3 was purchased to make it happen. So you should definitely have a chance if you keep a tab on when its shipping etc.
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.
How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?
Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A
I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.
There should be kits available after the GB. If you go back a page or two it was said that only 2/3 of the MOQ was filled and the other 1/3 was purchased to make it happen. So you should definitely have a chance if you keep a tab on when its shipping etc.
Yep, checking this thread daily, thanks :)
All PM replied, do send another one if I'd missed anyone of you by chance.
Btw, all purple tops are taken. Thank you :)
Filled out form, this build looks awesome! :cool:The buying phase is over, you need to wait for the extras.
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.mine is still available if you were still interested
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.mine is still available if you were still interested
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
What key set do you have planned for Exent in your pixel signature?
Forgive me for being ignorant, but does anyone know when this is shipping?
It's been quite a while.
I'm down for an extra!!
Forgive me for being ignorant, but does anyone know when this is shipping?probably not until next month. 2nd post on the first page contains all updates.
It's been quite a while.
I'd take an extra :DStill waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.mine is still available if you were still interested
Hey! I have a question about the board. Does it arrive completely assembled? Id like to have the premium bundle but without the switches as I want some Zealios. Thank you!
Is it possible to purchase a second set of switches?I am afraid that it is not possible.
Any updates on the bottoms? :)
Hopefully we're on track to a late sept/early october ship date :D
The anodizing for the tops are almost done. Only silver is left at this moment. As for the bottom, only one process of machining is left. I will try to get some pics tmr. As for now, here's the blue topShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/pjJGnEp.jpg)
just for nautilus.This is exactly my plan now!
I'm probably the last one that get in! so excited! thx mrdar206!
I have a little question. I would like to go with the splitted space bar layout on the exent (purple line). I never used one before and my question is:The usual 2u, 2 of it.
What kind of stabilizer do we need for the two spacebar?
Thanks :D
I have a little question. I would like to go with the splitted space bar layout on the exent (purple line). I never used one before and my question is:The usual 2u, 2 of it.
What kind of stabilizer do we need for the two spacebar?
Thanks :D
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.It does. :))
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.It does. :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.It does. :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.It does. :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.
Any new ETA? We're approaching October. ;D+1 ! ;D
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.It does. :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB. Just had a few tested with. Everything seems good :thumb:
It's approaching the last week of September, while there's only one process left for the bottom case. We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gVLtlqj.jpg)
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB. Just had a few tested with. Everything seems good :thumb:
It's approaching the last week of September, while there's only one process left for the bottom case. We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gVLtlqj.jpg)
Btw, I've already responded to all DMs and emails. If I happened to miss any of yours out, do send me another one. Thank you and have a nice weekend ahead.
We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.
We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.
Thanks for the update!
Does this include the orders with GMK keycaps?
Have a nice weekend ;D
Can I still order this? The order form seems to be open but the GB was way back in Jan?
Can I still order this? The order form seems to be open but the GB was way back in Jan?I don’t think so... just contact juahenza to know if there are any left overs
@juahenza, what's the footprint around the top right switch center mount, the four pads in a square?
Is anything extra broken out aside from the ICSP?
Yeah, correct.@juahenza, what's the footprint around the top right switch center mount, the four pads in a square?
Is anything extra broken out aside from the ICSP?
4 pin SMD LED pad, if I was gonna make an educated guess, I'd say this pcb most be related to the one used in the TGR910, since that board eschews the top right switch in favour of an illuminated logo
How would one go about cancelling an order?
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB.
How would one go about cancelling an order?
How would one go about cancelling an order?
Any chance you ordered a premium kit? I need dem keps
:-*How would one go about cancelling an order?
Any chance you ordered a premium kit? I need dem keps
I did, but I've decided I'm staying in until it arrives.
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.We should give credit where it's due, Juahenza has been giving us updates real nicely for a while, no need to rush things now.
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.We should give credit where it's due, Juahenza has been giving us updates real nicely for a while, no need to rush things now.
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.
Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
Excellent.Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
That's great news. So the polycarb bottoms will ship out first right? We won't have to wait for the Aluminum bottoms?seems that way. said he'll start shipping next week.
That's great news. So the polycarb bottoms will ship out first right? We won't have to wait for the Aluminum bottoms?seems that way. said he'll start shipping next week.
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Anyone know if extra aluminum bottoms will be for sale ?
Anyone know if extra aluminum bottoms will be for sale ?
doubt it
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.How about the aluminum bottom?
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Is it possible to purchase a second set of switches?I am afraid that it is not possible.Any updates on the bottoms? :)
Hopefully we're on track to a late sept/early october ship date :D
The anodizing for the tops are almost done. Only silver is left at this moment. As for the bottom, only one process of machining is left. I will try to get some pics tmr. As for now, here's the blue topShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/pjJGnEp.jpg)
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Is... is it happening? :-XHYPE
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
WOOT!!! Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting! :p
Thanks All!
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
WOOT!!! Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting! :p
Thanks All!
Anyone get their tracking # yet?
What's the status on the alu bottoms? :)Machining is in progress already. Expected to be finished by the end of this month, then will be sent for anodizing.
Anyone get their tracking # yet?Parcel hasn't been shipped yet, you guys will start receiving it in the next few days.
What's the status on the alu bottoms? :)Machining is in progress already. Expected to be finished by the end of this month, then will be sent for anodizing.Anyone get their tracking # yet?Parcel hasn't been shipped yet, you guys will start receiving it in the next few days.
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.
Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate. :thumb:
Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
WOOT!!! Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting! :p
Thanks All!
Where did you guys go? I hope you had a lot of fun!
We went to Italy!!! It was great. 3 days in Rome, 3 days in Perugia, and 3 days in Florence. One more night in Rome, then back to Portland! It was the first time I've been away from work/kids in... almost a decade. It was very refreshing. Re-entry back into work has been a bit rough, but... hard to complain!
I'm one of the suckers with an aluminum bottom, so it looks like it might be a bit until our marriage bears an EXENT. Still can't wait!!!
My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?
There will be plenty of extras when the GB ends, keep an eye on here.My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?
Wondering if there is any extras as well ;D
There will be plenty of extras when the GB ends, keep an eye on here.My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?
Wondering if there is any extras as well ;D
Hey Juahenza and Yuktsi, when will the shipping start? I'm quite hyped about seeing other people's EXENTs.Where are you seeing other EXENTs?
Hey Juahenza and Yuktsi, when will the shipping start? I'm quite hyped about seeing other people's EXENTs.Where are you seeing other EXENTs?
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Here's the "concept art" for mine :))That's a proper endgame, just needs a split spacebar ;)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H2dE2C6.jpg)
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like ;DHave you considered a back up setShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like ;DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like ;DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)
Anyone get their tracking # yet?
Feel like we're probably a few weeks out yet, but I dunno, just my inkling.
Not to be that guy but an actual, official announcement regarding the polycarbonate bottom kits is overdue by now - "tracking within x days probably" is really not optimal at this point, in my opinion, people get antsy and rightfully so.
Not to be that guy but an actual, official announcement regarding the polycarbonate bottom kits is overdue by now - "tracking within x days probably" is really not optimal at this point, in my opinion, people get antsy and rightfully so.
I'll be fairly impressed if the polycarb kits ship by december - or even at all, frankly. It would be nice if Juahenza, after all the times it's been requested, would actually make regular announcements, e.g. on a weekly basis.
At any rate, I'm pretty antsy. Pretty nervous too.
I just feel like we need something concrete now.
I am so worried that how proceed my alubottom exent now...Hello Koo, the machining for the aluminum bottom should be finishing anytime this or next week. The next step is going to be anodizing, which isn't going to take too long. I will have an estimated time once the machining is done.
promise date is october but it's almost november...
sure, it can be delayed. it's not big problem in this time.
but until now, no update news makes me so disappointed.. :(
I am so worried that how proceed my alubottom exent now...Hello Koo, the machining for the aluminum bottom should be finishing anytime this or next week. The next step is going to be anodizing, which isn't going to take too long. I will have an estimated time once the machining is done.
promise date is october but it's almost november...
sure, it can be delayed. it's not big problem in this time.
but until now, no update news makes me so disappointed.. :(
Hi Juahenza, is there any update on the expected shipping date for the polycarbonate bottoms?We gonna start working on it next week. Got procrasinated a little because we couldn't find a good place to sort and pack. But the owner of the cnc manu is kind enough to lend us a place at his factory office now. Just bought some tables yesterday and have most of the things sorted.
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Please post some photos while shipping :)Hi Juahenza, is there any update on the expected shipping date for the polycarbonate bottoms?We gonna start working on it next week. Got procrasinated a little because we couldn't find a good place to sort and pack. But the owner of the cnc manu is kind enough to lend us a place at his factory office now. Just bought some tables yesterday and have most of the things sorted.
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We gonna start working on it next week. Got procrasinated a little because we couldn't find a good place to sort and pack. But the owner of the cnc manu is kind enough to lend us a place at his factory office now. Just bought some tables yesterday and have most of the things sorted.
I missed this GB! Are you going to do R2?
I’m curious as well, I got all hyped thinking I was getting it this month. Any updates?
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.Where do you live?
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.Where do you live?
I'm in NYC area, I can build it for you.Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.Where do you live?
NYC area
We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.
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We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.
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I'm in Toronto, I would love to connect with someone to help me with this. I've got a couple Primecaps offshoots I could throw in. Plus love and extras.
I'm in Toronto, I would love to connect with someone to help me with this. I've got a couple Primecaps offshoots I could throw in. Plus love and extras.
PM 27 (of mech27)
He'll help you connect with Canadians.
We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.
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I'm in NYC area, I can build it for you.Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.Where do you live?
oh cool, I will pm u once the board arrive
NYC area
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Juahenza what is your malfunction? Everything going on lately points to a problem with the groupbuy. Is there one? Are you deliberately withholding information? Because it's getting hard to not see it that way, given that we haven't seen any pictures in months, we aren't provided with good or consistent updates, and you've missed every single ship date estimate.
IF there are problems, you need to tell us what they are. Spare no details.
IF there are no problems, you need to do one of two things. Either
A) Provide at minimum weekly updates, with pictures, absolutely without fail.
B) Hand communication over to someone who can do the above.
Juahenza what is your malfunction? Everything going on lately points to a problem with the groupbuy. Is there one? Are you deliberately withholding information? Because it's getting hard to not see it that way, given that we haven't seen any pictures in months, we aren't provided with good or consistent updates, and you've missed every single ship date estimate.
IF there are problems, you need to tell us what they are. Spare no details.
IF there are no problems, you need to do one of two things. Either
A) Provide at minimum weekly updates, with pictures, absolutely without fail.
B) Hand communication over to someone who can do the above.
Not just Juahenza. This buy has other partners that are damaging their reputations, whether or not they realize it, by allowing this to continue to run as poorly as it is.
TARO, remember?
Yuktsi, Sherryton, RAMA, it's time to step up and get Juahenza back on track or replaced.
No one is saying "ship our boards tomorrow or else" but damn it give us a straight answer on what's going on and when shipping in starting.
Ah we have finally reached that phase of the group buy again.
It is the same in nearly every group buy i ever joined. The information flow has very seldomly been perfect and close to nothing arrived on time. However I have always received what I payed for.
Calm down people, relax a bit!
Asking for updates is not a sin but there is no need to question the existence of the boards. Plenty pictures during anodising and of the pcb were posted.
Your boards will arrive...
If we are lucky maybe even before Christmas.
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Ah we have finally reached that phase of the group buy again.
It is the same in nearly every group buy i ever joined. The information flow has very seldomly been perfect and close to nothing arrived on time. However I have always received what I payed for.
Calm down people, relax a bit!
Asking for updates is not a sin but there is no need to question the existence of the boards. Plenty pictures during anodising and of the pcb were posted.
Your boards will arrive...
If we are lucky maybe even before Christmas.
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Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.
I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor". This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse. STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT. You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.
This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February. That's 4-5 months. We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers. This is not acceptable. No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud. We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past. You can take that advice and shove it.
No more empty promises. Give us the god damn product that we paid for.
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.
I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor". This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse. STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT. You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.
This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February. That's 3-4 months. We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers. This is not acceptable. No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud. We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past. You can take that advice and shove it.
No more empty promises. Give us the god damn product that we paid for.
Edit: I really screwed up the math there. Fixed.
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.
The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.
I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor". This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse. STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT. You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.
This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February. That's 3-4 months. We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers. This is not acceptable. No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud. We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past. You can take that advice and shove it.
No more empty promises. Give us the god damn product that we paid for.
Edit: I really screwed up the math there. Fixed.
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.
The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.
What's particularly frustrating is that the people running this group buy are on GH every day. Active last night, the night before, etc. They're here, they're just avoiding answering questions. I've participated in 4 group buys in the last year, 3 of them have been utter disasters. I think I too am going to be done with this for the foreseeable future. Too many people running buys without any ability to actually do what they've promised.
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.
The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.
So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.
I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.
I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/2397e2f83be4aea80a2a03e04c8b400a.jpg)
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.
I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor". This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse. STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT. You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.
This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February. That's 3-4 months. We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers. This is not acceptable. No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud. We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past. You can take that advice and shove it.
No more empty promises. Give us the god damn product that we paid for.
Edit: I really screwed up the math there. Fixed.
I'm starting to think its Stockholm syndrome since the GB organizers already have our money so we need to keep them happy or something?
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
I remember my first group buy ;)
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.
The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.
So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.
I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.
I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/2397e2f83be4aea80a2a03e04c8b400a.jpg)
You are dumb well beyond words. The goddamn nerve on you.
I have patiently waited for over 9 ****ing months for this keyboard. Did I say anything when it blew by the June deadline? No. I have, along with many others, have sat quietly by waiting for the keyboard to be produced.
But we are now blowing right by the October deadline, and at this point it looks more like the production cycle is going to continue indefinitely.
On top of that, we are given no information about what's going on.
This, as others have said, has gone way past "delays happen," and, yes, into "I want it now!"
This group buy needs to get its ass in ****ing gear or none of us will ever see this keyboard and, yes, Juahenza will be buried in paypal disputes.
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.
The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.
So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.
I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.
I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/2397e2f83be4aea80a2a03e04c8b400a.jpg)
You are dumb well beyond words. The goddamn nerve on you.
I have patiently waited for over 9 ****ing months for this keyboard. Did I say anything when it blew by the June deadline? No. I have, along with many others, have sat quietly by waiting for the keyboard to be produced.
But we are now blowing right by the October deadline, and at this point it looks more like the production cycle is going to continue indefinitely.
On top of that, we are given no information about what's going on.
This, as others have said, has gone way past "delays happen," and, yes, into "I want it now!"
This group buy needs to get its ass in ****ing gear or none of us will ever see this keyboard and, yes, Juahenza will be buried in paypal disputes.
I think what most people are missing that want others to "calm down" is that it takes 2 seconds to say anything about whats going on, even if its nothing. The lack of updates just shows how little effort they want to put into it. Id rather hear bad news then nothing, and with October already over it seems like we still have longer then they want to say left to wait.
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs.
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@PancakeMSTR was right. HUGE Indicators... lol
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@PancakeMSTR was right. HUGE Indicators... lol
Got any pics of a pink one? I thought I’d want black but I think I may have to try for a pink extra. Just to have something different.
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Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photot.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque. Would be happy to wait longer...
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Would be happy to wait longer...
Would be happy to wait longer...
I wouldn't.
Seems highly unlikely to me.
Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?
Thanks :D
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.
I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.
I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs. People have a right to complain, but personally I'm not at all worried. These delays are super common, and people that come into these buys expecting them to be timely should modify their expectations. These are community group buys, not sales from Razer or another established business.If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community. Why are YOU okay with this?
Damn... I really want pink. I really hope there are extras, I know he said no extras of purple, but that was ordered on accident right? I guess worst case I'm gonna have to fight someone for one on MM.
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs. People have a right to complain, but personally I'm not at all worried. These delays are super common, and people that come into these buys expecting them to be timely should modify their expectations. These are community group buys, not sales from Razer or another established business.If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community. Why are YOU okay with this?
Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for. You're out of your mind. In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.
It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop. People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community. Why are YOU okay with this?
Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for. You're out of your mind. In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.
It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop. People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community. Why are YOU okay with this?
Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for. You're out of your mind. In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.
It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop. People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!
This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation. I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.
I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.
I don’t really get where you are going... I’ve had really bad delays on Massdrop as well.
Maybe you should try running a group buy.
The mech community can’t really be compared to any other communities either. Show me one, where every part from the product is custom machined. Even in real life every custom project has delays. Try building a house or get software developed. Those projects are really often behind schedule as well!
We received a lot of pictures throughout the whole group buy to know it’s not scam. So please calm down.
And people like PancakeMSTR who are rude, overly demanding and who insult people should have no place in this community.
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community. Why are YOU okay with this?
Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for. You're out of your mind. In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.
It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop. People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!
This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation. I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.
I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.
Clearly agree with you, is it super unlikely that someone here really "need" the exent as a primary keyboard! Nevertheless, I understand the reaction of some people here (I do not caution getting rude!), but as I told I faced a "failed" kickstarter project which provide this kind of not so good communication, even with pictures and so on for about 2 years, then they stopped taking pic and responding.. They add the very bad taste to send a message one month ago telling "we will finish with our own money".. No they will not, I lost almost 300 bucks on this, but this is life of GB... I really think (and HOPE !) this will finish and that we will get our amazing keebs soon enough and everything will be okay :) ! But for sure, communication is good and it not that time consuming. I think the main point of a lot of people here is to have update on regular basis even if it is to tell bad news, delay and so on. I really agree with you that this delay, for this kind of product is "okay" at the end, but for sure communication was not the best here.
All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures! So I would say they read this post and care, but It would be nice to have some words for them also with some expected delay, avancing for process and packing...
...last I heard there were no pink extras unfortunately
Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photo.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque.
...I can just take sandpaper to the inside of it once I get it to make it a little more 'frosted'
Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?
All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures!
...
In closing, I just want to say that we’re close to the finish line (for the polycarb kits at least), hopefully the pictures posted are proof enough. I’m super stoked for this board myself (I paid full price like everybody here), and I’m very impressed by what I’ve seen so far. This might be a stretch, but I suspect you might just forget the delays and radio silence once you’ve had the chance to unbox your package and hold the Exent in both arms ;)
This is patently false. Pics would have been posted regardless of the “storm”, I’m just sorry it wasn’t done before this guy decided to unload (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518526#msg2518526) and open the floodgates.
Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.
It's not too much to ask.
Eat ****
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?
I would like to point out to you, however, that if you (collectively) we're aware that we were promised pictures and knew that you had no pictures to post, you could have simply said "Oops forgot pics, you'll see them Monday night".
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?
I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.
Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.
It's not too much to ask.
This is another civil way to put it. Well said.
Edit: aw **** clean up's here.
Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.
It's not too much to ask.
This is another civil way to put it. Well said.
Edit: aw **** clean up's here.
Yeah I really appreciate the mods removing any comments I made defending myself, including the civil ones for which there was no reason to remove them. Now I just look exclusively like the person stirring up a storm. Jerks.
Definitely seen enough of this community to be done with it once I get out of the buys I'm in.
Hi guys,
I’ve been helping Aconic and TGR prep the boards for shipping. I never intended to post here, but I feel the degree of escalation in this thread over the past two days has been unwarranted and unjustified. Allow me to explain.
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Hi guys,
I’ve been helping Aconic and TGR prep the boards for shipping. I never intended to post here, but I feel the degree of escalation in this thread over the past two days has been unwarranted and unjustified. Allow me to explain.
Firstly, do remember that we are working out of someone else’s premises, as explained by Jua in this post. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2512857#msg2512857)
Secondly, when Yuktsi posted this update (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2516872#msg2516872) last Friday, it was already 5:30pm over here. We’d just left the facility after a long day of sorting and packing; each of us assumed the other had taken pictures when in fact nobody did. By the time we realized this, it was too late to go back for pictures as the owner had already locked up for the weekend. This is not an excuse, it was an honest mistake on our part and I'm just pointing out what happened.
We finally got around to taking some pics late yesterday (Monday 6 Nov) and posting them today (Tuesday 7 Nov), I hope this is sufficient proof that progress is being made and people can feel more at ease.
Moving on. I’ll try to steer this thread back on track by addressing some questions/statements from you guys (*DISCLAIMER*: I could be mistaken, Jua or Yuktsi please do step in and correct me)....last I heard there were no pink extras unfortunately
You’re right.Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photo.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque....I can just take sandpaper to the inside of it once I get it to make it a little more 'frosted'
The pic of the engineering sample was taken in lower light compared to today’s pics. In a bright room, you can definitely see the PCB clearly when looking at the Exent from underneath, but IMO that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I’d strongly advise you to at least test the RGB underglow/diffusion before taking a piece of sandpaper to the bottom.Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?
Well obviously we have missed this deadline. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2512824#msg2512824) It is not within my jurisdiction to tell you what the new deadline is, that would be best answered directly by Jua or Yuktsi. All I can do right now is to humbly ask for a bit more patience, and hopefully that you can adjust your expectations. You are welcome to yell at me if you feel like it.All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures!
This is patently false. Pics would have been posted regardless of the “storm”, I’m just sorry it wasn’t done before this guy decided to unload (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518526#msg2518526) and open the floodgates.
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In closing, I just want to say that we’re close to the finish line (for the polycarb kits at least), hopefully the pictures posted are proof enough. I’m super stoked for this board myself (I paid full price like everybody here), and I’m very impressed by what I’ve seen so far. This might be a stretch, but I suspect you might just forget the delays and radio silence once you’ve had the chance to unbox your package and hold the Exent in both arms ;)
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community. Why are YOU okay with this?
Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for. You're out of your mind. In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.
It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop. People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!
This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation. I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.
I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.
Clearly agree with you, is it super unlikely that someone here really "need" the exent as a primary keyboard! Nevertheless, I understand the reaction of some people here (I do not caution getting rude!), but as I told I faced a "failed" kickstarter project which provide this kind of not so good communication, even with pictures and so on for about 2 years, then they stopped taking pic and responding.. They add the very bad taste to send a message one month ago telling "we will finish with our own money".. No they will not, I lost almost 300 bucks on this, but this is life of GB... I really think (and HOPE !) this will finish and that we will get our amazing keebs soon enough and everything will be okay :) ! But for sure, communication is good and it not that time consuming. I think the main point of a lot of people here is to have update on regular basis even if it is to tell bad news, delay and so on. I really agree with you that this delay, for this kind of product is "okay" at the end, but for sure communication was not the best here.
All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures! So I would say they read this post and care, but It would be nice to have some words for them also with some expected delay, avancing for process and packing...
I think you're conflating an articulated need with a degree of subjective acceptance related to delays. This is a logical fallacy.
I may not need a particular product. But if I buy it, I have a reasonable expectation as a consumer that it will be delivered at some time roughly around the stated delivery window, and that the selling party will keep me informed of any and all developments. This is basic commerce and customer service stuff. It's not rocket science.
"**** happens", as they say, and some delays are expected. I thought I was clear on this, so it's incredibly frustrating that I have to keep repeating the point. No one said all delays were unacceptable. This isn't my first rodeo. The delays in this GB are extraordinary and when combined with wholly inadequate communication they make a trainwreck. The team has failed to deliver the product in a reasonable time (commerce) and failed to explain why (customer service). It's the double failure that's not acceptable.
All I'm asking is for sellers to hold up their end of the bargain and for "buyers" to stop giving them a limp-wristed pass every time they **** up. Let's set some standards and hold people accountable to them.
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?
I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.
It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?
I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.
It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.
So,
1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)).
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.
2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.
3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.
4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?
I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.
It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.
So,
1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)).
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.
2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.
3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.
4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.
So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...
So,
1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)).
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.
2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.
3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.
4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
Are you sure?Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.
4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
Are you sure?
Would like clarification on this too
So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...
Same here with a polycarb gray basic kit
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
Are you sure?Would like clarification on this too
As in, haven't got to the facility we're using to do the packing. Someone will bring them over by car. I don't know whose house they're in.
So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...
Same here with a polycarb gray basic kit
Let me check on the status of the greys and get back to ya.
Any info about the 12 degree feet?
1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate.
Latest news:
1) Polycarb basic kits:
- Sorry I made a mistake with the previous update. This is the corrected post:1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate.
- This means if you picked the brass plate or 12deg feet, or if you added any extras to your basic kit order (e.g. a second PCB), it was filed under a different spreadsheet and will be packed later.
- Today's job will be packing the basic Grey orders (8deg feet, alu plate) with no extras
I made all the wrong choices...
Dark gray, brass plate, 12* feet. Well at least not the Alu bottom. So I guess it could be worse :D
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Dark gray looking great! Glad I went for it :)
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Bunch of packed exents ready to be shipped.
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Hi!
Sharing some pics of the Black and Blue.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/soJ0SxV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/u61MHl4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1wu7CyL.jpg)
Full album here: https://imgur.com/a/p0HkI
Enjoy :)
A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!
Black - Grey - Silver:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/B8x9bFE.jpg)
A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!
Black - Grey - Silver:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/B8x9bFE.jpg)
Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.
A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!
Black - Grey - Silver:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/B8x9bFE.jpg)
Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.
Could be fingerprints. You can (barely) see it on the black case too, and it's not present in later photos of the black case. Just a guess.
Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.
1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)). *Note: edited*
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
Any word on when that "later" would be for the brass plates/12º feet?
I was wondering if we could see an updated photo of the keycaps?
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
The pics look great, I can't wait for mine :pThey are still finishing on the machining. We have requested for some photos and update, still waiting on the reply.
Any ETA for the aluminium bottoms?
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
I think the process for grey or silver is different from the others.Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
The dark gray was the only one affected by this issue? The anodisation process is somehow different to the other color?
I think the process for grey or silver is different from the others.
I think the process for grey or silver is different from the others.Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
The dark gray was the only one affected by this issue? The anodisation process is somehow different to the other color?
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.
So there are issues with the dark grey, but no issues with the rest of the colors right? We won't be waiting for the dark grey to be fixed before the other colors are shipped out ya?
People who chose other colors also have to wait for the dark grey ones to be fixed? Hope it goes well.
So there are issues with the dark grey, but no issues with the rest of the colors right? We won't be waiting for the dark grey to be fixed before the other colors are shipped out ya?People who chose other colors also have to wait for the dark grey ones to be fixed? Hope it goes well.
No. We are bottlenecked by physical space. We need as many to go out as soon as possible.
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?
Are there actually Micro USB pcbs? Pretty much every board I'm aware of has MiniUSB and a few new ones have USB-C. The ONLY microusb board I'm aware of is the Anne Pro.
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?
Are there actually Micro USB pcbs? Pretty much every board I'm aware of has MiniUSB and a few new ones have USB-C. The ONLY microusb board I'm aware of is the Anne Pro.
The novatouch also uses micro usb. Not sure if there are any custom pcbs with micro usb.
You see it on boards that use a Pro Micro as the controller like Gherkins and Let’s Split. I really don’t like it as a connector though, I don’t find it stands up very well to regular plugging/unplugging like mini can.
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?
I think my experience is based on cheap pro micro clones where the USB port breaks a little too easily!You see it on boards that use a Pro Micro as the controller like Gherkins and Let’s Split. I really don’t like it as a connector though, I don’t find it stands up very well to regular plugging/unplugging like mini can.
micro is actually rated for more plug cycles than mini
I...
I think I just got a... is this a tracking number?
What? :-X
I...
I think I just got a... is this a tracking number?
What? :-X
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
could be international carrier atm?
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
track.aftership.com/
Just put the tracking number after that and you will find it.
Does yours retrieve? Mine connects to a shipping company in Spain, which I assume is wrong.
Oh man this board looks so neat, I hope it's not too late to submit an order
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.
If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?
purely speculating but i doubt they'll be able to fix the greysSpoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.
If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?
Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
purely speculating but i doubt they'll be able to fix the greysSpoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.
If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?
Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
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:(purely speculating but i doubt they'll be able to fix the greysSpoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.
If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?
Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
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that's not a very nice thing to be speculating
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
track.aftership.com/
Just put the tracking number after that and you will find it.
Does yours retrieve? Mine connects to a shipping company in Spain, which I assume is wrong.
They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.
They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.
I got the tracking number yesterday. No Carrier.
Question of the month.They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.
What company?
I'd also like to know what is going on with the tracking numbers.Give it a couple of days for the tracking to appear in their system. All US orders were shipped using S.F. Express. While non-US were shipped using EMS, which we haven't updated to PayPal yet.
How are you getting on with premium kits with the key caps? Are they shipping yet?I'd also like to know what is going on with the tracking numbers.Give it a couple of days for the tracking to appear in their system. All US orders were shipped using S.F. Express. While non-US were shipped using EMS, which we haven't updated to PayPal yet.
Thanks.
How are you getting on with premium kits with the key caps? Are they shipping yet?
Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks! :thumb:Called this morning. They haven’t looked at it yet
Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks! :thumb:Called this morning. They haven’t looked at it yet
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Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks! :thumb:Called this morning. They haven’t looked at it yet
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Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.
The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.
To be fair, that second part happens on quite a few boards. Use a non-conductive washer or some tape and it's fine... the more layouts you make a PCB compatible with, the more likely it has to have a contact where that screw goes - hell, I had it happen with a NERD60 and I would hardly consider that a low quality PCB.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
You're damn right we paid money for this board, and it should arrive perfect. I didn't pay a bunch of money and wait nearly a year for something I need to fix when I get it. Sending a broken PCB is a pretty ****ty thing to do, and having the attitude that it's okay because it's "a community thing" a total slap in the face.
No changing it now, but, once again, you guys need to get your act together.
For a fix like this, I wouldn't have suggested you get the boards re-manufactured either, but if it's so simple, why didn't you guys do it?
For a fix like this, I wouldn't have suggested you get the boards re-manufactured either, but if it's so simple, why didn't you guys do it?
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.
Top case: Machining has been completed, anodizing is in progress. We had received of the gray parts, finishing isn't really up to our expectation, they were sent back for rework. The top part will be delivered in batches according to colors.
Bottom Polycarbonate: Machining in progress.
Bottom Aluminum: Will commence as soon as the machining for polycarbonate bottom is completed.
Plate brass: Fabrication in progress.
GMK set: Fabrication in progress.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
So yet another problem with the production, and you guys say "**** it, we'll do it live!" Bill O'Reilly would be proud. :rolleyes:
I can understand how that might be the path of least resistance given everything that's happened up to this point, but that doesn't make it OK. It's true that I can probably fix a bad solder joint on my own. But I shouldn't have to.
The way you've (plural) handled this tells me I should never touch another project associated with codywanks, yuktsi, juahenza, RAMA, Originative, TGR, TARO, NTW, or ACENIC. That's probably a little unfair to RAMA, among others, but it's clear now this is not a team that can get the job done in a timely, professional, and respectful manner. Even if every single problem that's plagued this project was out of your control, it shows that you chose your partners/vendors poorly and you still shoulder 100% of the blame. Why the hell would anyone want to work with you after this?
Thanks for at least trying to deliver something, I guess. That's more than I can say for some of these failed GBs. :( Your brutal (if mildly insulting) honesty is also better than what we usually get in these situations: radio silence. So there's something to be said for that too. Trying to find a silver lining here...
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.
I give a lot of leeway to group buy runners. Joined Round 6 like two years ago; still waiting on two Model Fs I purchased the beginning of 2016; and generally have no complaints about group buys that deliver the product advertised.
I ordered four Exents. I went all in on SA Oblivion, SA Dasher, and GMK Laser specifically for these Exents. I have soldered quite a few boards, and I've also had issues with PCBs in the past that consumed a lot of my time and energy, and some PCBs I couldn't save.
I'm excited about this project, and I'm glad you guys have been working hard to bring it to fruition. However, if I receive four malfunctioning PCBs, I'll be contesting the original payment through my credit card company. I just don't personally have the time or energy to troubleshoot an issue that exists out of the box. It could be a simple fix, but it's possible and even probable based on the experience of the user here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520913#msg2520913) that troubleshooting may fail and require additional time and energy to diagnose. You are selling a product, and you should deliver that product, not a malfunctioning version of that product. I don't expect everyone to feel this way, and that's fine.
Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused. I hope that doesn't come off poorly, but I also don't think that this is at all an unreasonable position to take. Either way, thanks for the time and effort you have been putting into this group buy, and please continue to put in that same time and effort until the buy is complete.
agreedSo how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.
I give a lot of leeway to group buy runners. Joined Round 6 like two years ago; still waiting on two Model Fs I purchased the beginning of 2016; and generally have no complaints about group buys that deliver the product advertised.
I ordered four Exents. I went all in on SA Oblivion, SA Dasher, and GMK Laser specifically for these Exents. I have soldered quite a few boards, and I've also had issues with PCBs in the past that consumed a lot of my time and energy, and some PCBs I couldn't save.
I'm excited about this project, and I'm glad you guys have been working hard to bring it to fruition. However, if I receive four malfunctioning PCBs, I'll be contesting the original payment through my credit card company. I just don't personally have the time or energy to troubleshoot an issue that exists out of the box. It could be a simple fix, but it's possible and even probable based on the experience of the user here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520913#msg2520913) that troubleshooting may fail and require additional time and energy to diagnose. You are selling a product, and you should deliver that product, not a malfunctioning version of that product. I don't expect everyone to feel this way, and that's fine.
Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused. I hope that doesn't come off poorly, but I also don't think that this is at all an unreasonable position to take. Either way, thanks for the time and effort you have been putting into this group buy, and please continue to put in that same time and effort until the buy is complete.
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?For the orders that haven’t been picked up. We will see what we can do.
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?For the orders that haven’t been picked up. We will see what we can do.
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Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?For the orders that haven’t been picked up. We will see what we can do.
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Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.
You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.
To answer your questions:
Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.
I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.
Are you planning on doing anything for those of us who's orders were shipped before being made aware at all of the PCB issues? Could you at least release the PCB files so that when we need to make new PCBs for our Exents we don't have to reverse engineer the thing, or are those files already available somewhere? Also, I've seen exactly zero information on how to customize the layout on this board, could we get some details on that?
However apparently small the issue with the PCBs, I find it incredibly insulting that we had to find out from a customer. Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
Managed to pick up some of the machined bottoms before the factory closes. Will send them for anodizing on Friday. About 50% more are still in the law few processes of machining. Meanwhile, we are yet to hear back from the anodizing guy regarding the gray tops.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GLWE7i5m.jpg)
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My PCB is fine, so I don't think all PCBs are effected.
I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
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Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.
You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.
To answer your questions:
Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.
I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.
Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused.
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.
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EXENT SMD LED REPAIR GUIDE (https://imgur.com/a/qaj50)
Please read this if you have received an Exent kit, or a tracking number for an Exent kit.
Sorry this was not published earlier.
_____________Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused.Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?
Having your blessing to allocate additional time towards further QC is much appreciated and does relieve some pressure. After all, the boards were rushed out for a reason.
The challenge will be differentiating those who want their boards hand-checked from those who no longer want to wait (almost an equal split judging from the forum posts & PM's I've received). This is something we will have to figure out.
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.
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I have the plate file straight from Rama. I'll ask him if he's ok with me sharing :)Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.
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I suggest something similar to the XD75, which is pretty flexible in terms of layout, including two split ortho 'halves' with a numpad in the middle, as well as placements for a few different 2u spacebar options. I think this would offer a lot of flexibility (basically just one large grid with a few different positions possible for 2u spacebars on the bottom row.
@juahenza and co: would it be possible for you guys to share the plate files? Not only would it be useful for making ortho plates when this plans out, but it will also be useful for those of us planning to make our own exotic plate options (perhaps polycarbonate or CFRP plates. I know I can wait for my kit to get here, measure the plate and draw up my own, but for the sake of accuracy it would be great to get it straight from the source.
Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?
No offense whatsoever meant, but could you take the conversation about creating a different PCB for the Extent into a separate IC thread so we don't lose the conversation here about all the various things going on with the current GB for Extent itself? Would be much appreciated.
Was thinking of supporting these basic layouts:Send me a PM, I will provide you with the files required. Thanks
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/67ff3b23664de587b64d96b123185b2e
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To answer your questions:
Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.
I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.
If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)
I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.
Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.
To answer your questions:
Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.
I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.
If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)
I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.
Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.
Actually, I had nothing to do with that, I handed off the original design, it was modified and all the names where added. Past the initial design I had no input whatsoever. I presented a concept, then it was taken.
To answer your questions:
Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.
I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.
If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)
I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.
Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.
Actually, I had nothing to do with that, I handed off the original design, it was modified and all the names where added. Past the initial design I had no input whatsoever. I presented a concept, then it was taken.
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.
Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.
Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.
Except...that's kinda what it looks like is happening. A marked disassociation. "My role was just barely this tiny..." etc.
And still, it changes exactly **** all.
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.
Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.
Except...that's kinda what it looks like is happening. A marked disassociation. "My role was just barely this tiny..." etc.
And still, it changes exactly **** all.
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.
You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc.
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.
You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc.
More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai" :D
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.
You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc.
More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai" :D
You are missing the point - I don't know whether it's intentional or not.
RAMA can (and should have) taken a greater interest in the project that bears his name. They all should have.
Could RAMA have designed the PCB? No. No one is saying he should have. RAMA should have said though: "Hey, this project has my name on it, and I have a reputation for perfection. I don't want to be associated with a project shipping defective PCBs. Please correct prior to shipment."
You four have created your respective brands - and they obviously have value or Juahenza wouldn't have felt the need to plaster them everywhere. Take better care of them.
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.
You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc.
More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai" :D
You are missing the point - I don't know whether it's intentional or not.
RAMA can (and should have) taken a greater interest in the project that bears his name. They all should have.
Could RAMA have designed the PCB? No. No one is saying he should have. RAMA should have said though: "Hey, this project has my name on it, and I have a reputation for perfection. I don't want to be associated with a project shipping defective PCBs. Please correct prior to shipment."
You four have created your respective brands - and they obviously have value or Juahenza wouldn't have felt the need to plaster them everywhere. Take better care of them.
So now we want designers doing QA on PCBs?
What exactly do you think RAMA could have done to change this current situation? The DESIGN of the PCB is sound if it really is fixed with a reflow. What would make you think the designer would be involved now? Especially if the other peoples statements are true and this was was a commission. RAMA probably wasn't even aware some PCBs had issues until you started name dropping him. And regardless, what is it you think he could do? Someone bought a design from him. They would have no obligation to notify him of any issues to begin with, but even if they had, do you think he could just magically demand that they fix the PCBs "OR ELSE!!!" and then situation fixed just "cause RAMA said so"?
I do however think RAMA would do himself a service if he created a separate label to differentiate commissions from stuff he sells himself. I would expect him to hold a great deal more responsibility for the M6-A. I'm not actually sure which way M65 goes. I dunno if RAMA was involved throughout or if JChan did the more of it or what, regardless, it would benefit rama to make it more clear what products hes involved with end to end and what products are just commission designs to avoid situations like this.
But again, I think you like the other guy are still not understanding what a designer does.
This will be the most exciting keyboard of 2017, which grew from a 2-person project, to a collaborative effort of a group of keyboard hobbyists. At the time of writing, the CNC machine in the factory are working hard on the first Exent prototype. Excited as a kid on Christmas day, I am proud to share with you, Exent.
Where in my post did I say I wanted RAMA doing QC on PCBs? Let's please keep the straw men out of the discussion.
Where in my post did I say I wanted RAMA doing QC on PCBs? Let's please keep the straw men out of the discussion.
When you assumed RAMA was somehow a PCB whisperer and KNEW there was an issue with the PCB to begin with.
EDIT: To be more clear... QC is how you determine that a PCB is flawed. You are holding RAMA responsible for QUALITY CONTROL which means you expect him to be handing the QC of PCBs. The design IS NOT flawed (based on the provided info) and not all boards are flawed. This is not a design issue. It's not as if RAMA is there shipping them out. He has no power to stop anything. You are wanting to him to have done something he does not have the ability to do.
"If you don't fix the PCB's I'll never sell you a design again" is not really very threatening. And again, you are making an assumption that anyone told him they were flawed to begin with.
I am not contesting RAMA's actual role within the project. I am pointing out that a 4 group collaborative effort, really is not.
If this were a true collaboration, the 4 members would've discussed and agreed on a course of action regarding the PCBs that need some level of rework.
RAMA had Massdrop deal with his M10 project for him and they ****ed it up so badly that he's now running the M6 by himself instead of relying on an actual vendor.
I posted on RAMA facebook page. They said that the software developer went awol and they will be releasing something new to replace the configurator.
Been trying to get into contact with Machine Industries for the past few weeks with no avail, hoping he touches base soon with an update for us.
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.Just checked, it does. PMed you the tracking in case you didn’t have the right one.
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.Just checked, it does. PMed you the tracking in case you didn’t have the right one.
Thanks
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Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?
Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?
I'm also interested in getting a reasonable date for premium kits (with keyset) to start shipping. Has anyone heard anything?
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.Just checked, it does. PMed you the tracking in case you didn’t have the right one.
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what shipping service is it for USA orders? my tracking number didn't yield any search results.Someone mentioned S.F. Express but I haven't been able to see any results with that carrier across a couple of different tracking sites.
Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.As far as I can tell only some of the basic kits have shipped. They don't have the aluminum bottoms yet (as far as I can tell) so I don't think any of those kits have shipped.
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Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.
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Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.
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Pretty sure the ONLY orders that have shipped thus far have been the basic kits containing 1. polycarb bottoms, 2. standard feet, 3. alu plates and nothing else. Everything else isn't ready (produced) and/or hasn't been packed.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
So yet another problem with the production, and you guys say "**** it, we'll do it live!" Bill O'Reilly would be proud. :rolleyes:
I can understand how that might be the path of least resistance given everything that's happened up to this point, but that doesn't make it OK. It's true that I can probably fix a bad solder joint on my own. But I shouldn't have to.
The way you've (plural) handled this tells me I should never touch another project associated with codywanks, yuktsi, juahenza, RAMA, Originative, TGR, TARO, NTW, or ACENIC. That's probably a little unfair to RAMA, among others, but it's clear now this is not a team that can get the job done in a timely, professional, and respectful manner. Even if every single problem that's plagued this project was out of your control, it shows that you chose your partners/vendors poorly and you still shoulder 100% of the blame. Why the hell would anyone want to work with you after this?
Thanks for at least trying to deliver something, I guess. That's more than I can say for some of these failed GBs. :( Your brutal (if mildly insulting) honesty is also better than what we usually get in these situations: radio silence. So there's something to be said for that too. Trying to find a silver lining here...
Don't blame RAMA, he only designed it and thats where hes relationship with it ends.
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.
You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
You guys have been really great lately. The Exent was my first GB ever, and I am not disappointed. In the mean time I've picked up a POK3R RGB, dropped way too much on keycaps, and developed an awesome business relationship with Rama. I'm really proud to be part of this community. Everything will be worth it when the board is in hand, I'm not speaking for anyone else, because they're allowed to be unhappy. I spent more money on this than almost anything else before in my adult life, but as a writer I want to have a beautiful statement piece that I use every day.
Fixing the LEDs? That's just one more project I get to do with this awesome build.
Can't wait. <3
...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!
Ok.Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
That's definitely not a premium kit.The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.
Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.
We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.
No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.
Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.
Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.
You guys have been really great lately. The Exent was my first GB ever, and I am not disappointed. In the mean time I've picked up a POK3R RGB, dropped way too much on keycaps, and developed an awesome business relationship with Rama. I'm really proud to be part of this community. Everything will be worth it when the board is in hand, I'm not speaking for anyone else, because they're allowed to be unhappy. I spent more money on this than almost anything else before in my adult life, but as a writer I want to have a beautiful statement piece that I use every day.
Fixing the LEDs? That's just one more project I get to do with this awesome build.
Can't wait. <3
I'm less concerned about the led issue, and more concerned about the lack of updates and responses to PMs. I don't mind delays, but I like to have some rough sense of status.
Just because a GB is a "community purchase", it doesn't mean it can't be managed well.
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.
I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.
I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.
I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.
I'm just asking for any update or a response to my PM. Not even looking for a shipping update, tbh. I have a lot of patience, but this is just totally unprofessional.
I have only PM'd these guys *once* since I paid their invoice in Feb. A simple courtesy response would be nice. I also don't understand people making excuses for them. If this is a "community" buy, then how about just showing some decency and providing updates to the community members that support you?
Their lack of response to the questions people are asking on this thread, and the lack of replies to PM, speak volumes about what they think about this community.
Heyy!
Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.
1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)
2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.
I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing. :thumb:
Heyy!
Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.
1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)
2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.
I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing. :thumb:
1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.
2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?
Heyy!
Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.
1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)
2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.
I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing. :thumb:
1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.
2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?
It look amazing and I'm sure it is, maybe I am wrong but I don't think so. And I was not targeting you, but just globaly, there was a lot of people saying "i don't want to buy anymore" , okay , do what you want, no need for 20 post!
Heyy!
Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.
1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)
2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.
I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing. :thumb:
1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.
2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?
It look amazing and I'm sure it is, maybe I am wrong but I don't think so. And I was not targeting you, but just globaly, there was a lot of people saying "i don't want to buy anymore" , okay , do what you want, no need for 20 post!
Fair enough. I mean, I bought it because I think it looks great, too. That doesn't mean everything is good with the buy.
It would be nice to have communication from the seller on the status, no? I asked via PM to confirm my order and get a quick status that I haven't been forgotten. I think I bought the base kit, which people are saying has shipped, but I don't have tracking. So no clue what's going on.
I guess if you are still happy regardless of no status and no delivery, and some bad PCB news, no need to worry. =)
All basic kits with no additional/upgraded parts had been shipped except for the grey top. Half of the aluminum bottom had been sent to anodizing, while the other half are still machining. No update for the grey top so far, they have still yet to work on it. A brief chat with the person in charge, the rework will involve stripping the anodized layer, sandblast, chemical etch and anodizing again. They will try to get some overtime workers to work on it in the coming weekend.Thank You for your update. Would the remained EXENT PCB be checked and fixed for the LED issue before shipping out?
We will be working on the basic kits with the brass plate and 12 deg this week. Expected to have all of these shipped by the end of the week. Ideally, we will start working the premium kit the week after. All tracking will be updated to the PayPal once the parcel has been shipped.
Would appreciate a little more patience, slowly but surely, we are delivering. When there's any progress, I will update here. Else we are busy checking and packing the parts. Thanks.
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
He said:아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
Wut :rolleyes:
He said:아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
Wut :rolleyes:
Oh, I'd like to pick you up soon ... ㅠ. ㅠ.
English is hard and waiting is too hard. Big ...
Lord Achan, please send me my deer!
...
Haha, thought so, that you‘d gooled it, but it was too funny to not post it..! ;)He said:아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
Wut :rolleyes:
Oh, I'd like to pick you up soon ... ㅠ. ㅠ.
English is hard and waiting is too hard. Big ...
Lord Achan, please send me my deer!
...
Yeah yeah I also google translate it, but made me laugh to see that here XD
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
translation:
OMG, I really want to receive my board ASAP.
In fact, I’m not good at English, and it’s extremely hard to wait for something.
Oh, Juahenza, please send me my board quickly. plz, plz, plz, plz!
Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.
I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.
Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?
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Thank you sir for being a reasonable and rational person.Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.
I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.
Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?
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Personally, I have zero issues with delays. My issue is with lack of status updates and responses.
I have asked nicely, and I don't spam. I only come here to complain if I don't get a response. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a reply.
Finally, I did get a response to my PM from juahenza, and I appreciate it.
Participating in a community buy and expecting reasonable communication are not mutually exclusive things.
Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.
I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.
Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.
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Hi y’all, just received it. Tested the pcb and it works.
https://imgur.com/a/5JygE
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I just want you all to know that my purple Exent is going to sport beige matt3o dev/tty caps with navy novelkeys switches (and dark yellow, and burnt orange if I can get 4); and it will be awesome!
And if that doesn’t work, then GMK Laser, whenever that shows up.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IAwLSYs.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VsembBD.jpg)
Finally, I got this board. Unfortunately, I have the issue regarding PCB, too.
As seen in this pic, one LED isn't functioning properly, but it doesn't matter, cuz I'm planning to use just pink colors.
Thanks for my joining this GB.
Hi y’all, just received it. Tested the pcb and it works.
https://imgur.com/a/5JygE
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so i plugged mine in and no lights at allTry turning the led on with bootmapper client.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)
thanks that worked. only 1 led works :-/so i plugged mine in and no lights at allTry turning the led on with bootmapper client.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)
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thanks that worked. only 1 led works :-/so i plugged mine in and no lights at allTry turning the led on with bootmapper client.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)
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thanks that worked. only 1 led works :-/so i plugged mine in and no lights at allTry turning the led on with bootmapper client.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)
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Only one alive? Unlucky. Did you change Num of LEDs into 18?
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50thanks!
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
May I suggest you update the first page post with FAQs? I don’t think it’s a surprise that people don’t go back through pages of discussion to try find the answers they want.Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.
I don’t think it’s a surprise that people don’t go back through pages of discussion to try find the answers they want.
Why wouldn't you be surprised that people keep asking the same question
I'll be honest, I don't actually know in what way you are affiliated with the buy
Dealing with and answering the same **** every time is part of the job...
...Whether or not that is your job, you solved it to a satisfactory level. Don't **** it up now.
As for a new question - are premium kits inclusive of upgraded parts still on track to ship next week?
then don't update. let someone competent do it.Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
I don’t think it’s a surprise that people don’t go back through pages of discussion to try find the answers they want.Why wouldn't you be surprised that people keep asking the same question
I'm not surprised that people keep asking the same question. But I'm quite amused that they're getting upset about answers not being provided when they actually have already been ;DI'll be honest, I don't actually know in what way you are affiliated with the buy
To clarify, I'm a regular participant like you. I paid full price for my order. Only difference is I know the GB runners personally, I think they are cool people, I consider them friends, and I don't like seeing the toll this GB has taken on them. Which is why I gladly volunteered my free time to help with packing and assembly.Dealing with and answering the same **** every time is part of the job...
...Whether or not that is your job, you solved it to a satisfactory level. Don't **** it up now.
I don't think it's part of my job, but thanks I guess?As for a new question - are premium kits inclusive of upgraded parts still on track to ship next week?
No, actually we're looking to start filling some brass plate/12 deg feet basic kit orders next week. If we're lucky, some might even start shipping at the end of the week.
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
So I just received my Exent and am beyond disappointed. I will be back later to discuss why that is, but at this instant my issue is that I cannot make one single LED light up. I have followed both instructions posted in this thread, e.g. that by catweewee to no avail. I've also reflowed the solder on every single LED. So either I'm doing something wrong, or my PCB is so dead not a single LED will light. For reference, I have loaded a keymap onto it and under the small amount of testing I've done the keys appear to be working.
What are my options for the LEDs? What the hell radio button are you talking about in the SMD LED repair guide? Could I get precise instructions for getting the LEDs to light up in case I'm making a mistake here?
Thanks.
i believe when looking at the board bottom side up with the usb port facing away from you, LED #1 is the one on the far leftSo I just received my Exent and am beyond disappointed. I will be back later to discuss why that is, but at this instant my issue is that I cannot make one single LED light up. I have followed both instructions posted in this thread, e.g. that by catweewee to no avail. I've also reflowed the solder on every single LED. So either I'm doing something wrong, or my PCB is so dead not a single LED will light. For reference, I have loaded a keymap onto it and under the small amount of testing I've done the keys appear to be working.
What are my options for the LEDs? What the hell radio button are you talking about in the SMD LED repair guide? Could I get precise instructions for getting the LEDs to light up in case I'm making a mistake here?
Thanks.
Because of the way these LEDs work, a dead one will keep the ones after it from working, even if they're good.
So potentially you could only have one dead LED in position one. You'll have to start diagnosing there.
**No affiliation with GB runners**
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
add a FAQ, that's what they're for
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.
1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.
2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.
3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.
4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.
5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.
Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:
1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.
2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.
3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. )
4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.
5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)
6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of (15$, or 6.25$ given that I need to be reimbursed for the stabilizers I just purchased).
Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc
These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.
Thanks.
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.
1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.
2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.
3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.
4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.
5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.
Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:
1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.
2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.
3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. )
4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.
5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)
6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of (15$, or 6.25$ given that I need to be reimbursed for the stabilizers I just purchased).
Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc
These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.
Thanks.
I think they should exchange your PCB, not just send you a second one. And why would you buy stabs before reaching out to get the ones you ordered and then expect them to pay you back for the stabs your ordered, again, before reaching out to get the ones you should have gotten?
I am really bummed to see so many problems with what feels like every board people are getting... I have not had any problems with the wait or the lack of communication because I believed what I was getting would make up for both. Very concerning.
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.
The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from my request.
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.
The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from my request.
You need Cherry PCB mount stabilizers; these come in clip in and screw in variations.Show Image(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/20n-beoOgO8/maxresdefault.jpg)
Not sure what region you're from for a link, but it isn't a difficult thing to find with Google.
Sorry to hear about your kit.
After looking at PancakeMSTR's album, how can you guys claim that there is any QC going on at all?
After looking at PancakeMSTR's album, how can you guys claim that there is any QC going on at all?
Could be shipping related to be fair, polycarb is not exactly the most durable under stress (eg. point of screw insertion and whatnot) as we well know so maybe those were not actually there prior and only happened (or got exacerbated) because of bumps and whatnot whilst on the way.
Hardly acceptable even in that scenario but it all depends on how they handle his replacement.
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.
1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.
2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.
3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.
5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.
Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:
1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.
2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? )These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy.PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.
5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)
6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.
Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc
These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.
Thanks.
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So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.
1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.
2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.
3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.
5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.
Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:
1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.
2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? )These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy.PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.
5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)
6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.
Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc
These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.
Thanks.
This is pretty ****ed up and I sympathize.
One thing you might want to note, however: You have to manually enable the LEDs in the configurator. If you haven't already, you should try that before you call it dead. It's my understanding that they aren't enabled out of the box... for some reason.
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.
The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from my request.
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.
1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.
2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.
3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.
5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.
Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:
1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.
2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? )These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy.PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.
5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)
6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.
Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc
These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.
Thanks.
This is pretty ****ed up and I sympathize.
One thing you might want to note, however: You have to manually enable the LEDs in the configurator. If you haven't already, you should try that before you call it dead. It's my understanding that they aren't enabled out of the box... for some reason.
All I did was follow the instructions. I tried the guide posted by catweewee, I tried the SMD repair guide posted by I think codywanks (I think) - for that one I haven't got the ****ing slightest clue what radio button he's talking about, and I even tried looking up "winkeyless bootloader LED guide" or something and followed instructions there to no avail as well.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iPTEizf.jpg)
My bootmapper version looks slightly different from yours but yup doesn't work.
Oh my client is Version 0.10.0, if that matters.
I'm gonna keep looking at the PCB, fiddling with reflow etc to see if I get anywhere, but let me just say: after 10 or so months of waiting, this is not an experience I'm pleased with. Not by a long shot.
My bootmapper version looks slightly different from yours but yup doesn't work.
Oh my client is Version 0.10.0, if that matters.
I'm gonna keep looking at the PCB, fiddling with reflow etc to see if I get anywhere, but let me just say: after 10 or so months of waiting, this is not an experience I'm pleased with. Not by a long shot.
Have you tried other versions of the client? Even though it's a small chance maybe it's a compability thing, 0.8.3 here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3bn9flirkb49ahz/BootMapperClient.zip?dl=0
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!
For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!
If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!
For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!
If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
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This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!
For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!
If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
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Anyway, I don’t know wich one to trust here, but the pictures are not looking good!
Also, the most important part of my message was about getting 100% functional pcb for the remainder order that have not shipped yet!
You did not answer this part.
This would be much better that you fix this, incase the fix is not easy, we will gain time infine (if you have to replace pcb you can do it directly, not adding further wait!).
Please tell us it is possible!!
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!
For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!
If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
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Anyway, I don’t know wich one to trust here, but the pictures are not looking good!
Also, the most important part of my message was about getting 100% functional pcb for the remainder order that have not shipped yet!
You did not answer this part.
This would be much better that you fix this, incase the fix is not easy, we will gain time infine (if you have to replace pcb you can do it directly, not adding further wait!).
Please tell us it is possible!!
The trust question is indeed an interesting one, especially as PancakeMSTR has a history of very negative opinions towards the group buy for some time and might be a bit biased.
The cracks look to me as if they are the result of applying too much torque to the screws aka. pulling them too tight during assembly of the feet.
Has anyone else received cracked screw holes like that?
Anyways you should be careful during assembly, as polycarbonate can indeed be quite brittle and prone to cracking.
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We didn’t send any cracked polycarbonate, nor a pcb like what you mentioned. Every parts were QC and assembled before packing and shipping.
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What kind of insurance is there on the shipping of these? I know it's not ideal, but if the shipping company is to blame for both the PCB and polycarbonate bottom maybe we need to contact them about PancakeMSTR's package and have them reimburse the damages. If they reimburse in full then you could use that money to get PancakeMSTR replacement parts.
Time to get in the habit of recording opening packages from group buys....
Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.
Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8
I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.
Haha!Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.
Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8
I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.
It's almost like the post office overtightened the screws!
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.
Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.the polycarb bottoms come already attached and tightened to the boards. entirely possible that it came broken.
Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.
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EDIT: upon further inspection it looks like screw overtightening... the screws don't come tightened, so i've heard from a few people
looks like he just ****ed up and wants yutski to fix it
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.
Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.
I wonder if the poly bottom could have cracked because of temperature changes in transit?
It really does look like it was just over tightened when they put it together; I would think you would hear it crack or at the very least see it before packaging. I'm sure it must have happened during shipping.
Regardless I hope you get it replaced.
Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.
Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8 (https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8)
I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.
It's almost like the post office overtightened the screws!
If I may, there is one explanation that satisfies the situation assuming no one is lying.
1) Pancake - it came this way
2) Yutski - we don't tighten the screws down
So if we've got a weight loosely screwed into the bottom, so that there is movement allowed then you could've transformed the assembly into a form ofShow Image(http://prospot.com/images/features-ss_spot-hammer.jpg).
Picture the screw as the end of the hammer and the weight as the pull, working on the acrylic layer. How many bounces, how many tosses would be needed to crack that acrylic?
Thermal expansion is another likely explanation and these could go together. Shipping them assembled is probably not a great idea.
I've seen another instance of a cracked bottom but the buyer is fine with it.
Anyway you can just ship mostly un-assembled?
Anyway, we will look into the issues with the polycarbonate bottom and PCB.
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Anyway, we will look into the issues with the polycarbonate bottom and PCB.
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What does this mean with regards to getting a replacement for the cracked bottom I received? I wasn't afforded the option to have my keyboard shipped disassembled, or aware for that matter that having it shipped disassembled might have not resulted in a cracked bottom.
Is this bottom-row layout possible on the Exent?
https://imgur.com/GVIZNKJ
No if fine. I will otherwise go for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 2.25, 1.25, 2.75, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1, 1 bottom row.
Is this bottom-row layout possible on the Exent?
https://imgur.com/GVIZNKJ
No is fine. I will otherwise go for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 2.25, 1.25, 2.75, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1, 1 bottom row.
Without seeing the PCB to verify, based on the plate photos and the images in the OP it looks like it would support it.
I dont have one to confirm though.
edit: well nvm, idk if 1.5 1.5 will work, OP has 1u it looks like.
Going off of catweewee's photos https://imgur.com/a/p0HkI looks like there are quite a few options so you could probably get it pretty close.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1IBGbGo.jpg)
PancakeMSTR’s theory of the different thermal expansion coefficients is quite interesting and could explain the cracks.
As stainless steel does expand and contract a lot less than polycarbonate when temperatures change, the strain caused perpendicular to the screws could be enough to cause those cracks.
The higher the temperature changes, the higher the strain. If the keyboards are assembled in a relatively warm country at let’s assume 30 degrees Celsius and shipped by plane with temperatures of less than -30, the temperature difference would be at least 60kelvin.
A quick calculation for Stainless Steel shows that the Stainless Steel part would contract about 0.5mm while the polycarbonate contracts about 1.5mm
I am not sure how much space there is between the screws and the holes, but it is quite likely that it is a lot less than the 1mm in difference that is the result of thermal contraction.
If you guys are interested I can do a full calculation and document it, so you can follow it; also taking into account the strain caused on the carbonate and the safety factor before they break.
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i'm no engineer, but i bugged a friend who is about this a bit earlier, here's some paraphrasing
thermal coefficient theory is pretty bogus, most airplane windows are polycarbonate (albeit probably a higher grade), and besides, those are clearly radial fractures from over-tightening or an object puncture, not temperature damage
thermal fracturing would split the whole piece in half, not fracture locally like in these pictures
i've shipped/recieved lots of polycarb parts overseas, both by boat and by air, and it has always comes out fine -- look at the TGR A.17, for example, or the polycarb duck viper cases
i've heard from 4 people now (including pancake) of similar cracking (radial fractures around the screw closest to the USB port, and one ****ed corner)
i doubt it was anything malicious, that just doesn't fit with the rest of the puzzle
i'm sure yutski is looking into it and will offer an explanation once it's solved
above all, this is devolving into a ****show and i'm gonna stay out of this for a few days until further updates are provided
The flex part is more likely to happend.. the thermal dilatation could.. be keep in mind the screw would have been tightened in Asia, in a hot place. The high thermal delta would be towards negative temperature.. meaning that the poly would contract and not expend (I did not check but from my knowledge, very few material increase in volume when cooled , except the msot famous one, water!). So it would have make the screw loose and not overtight...
Cracking
Unexpected cracking by polycarbonate is often due to stress corrosion. Remember that both tensile stress and an attacking chemical are needed. The stress can either be applied stress, residual stress or both. An example of applied stress: a female pipe thread tapped into the polycarbonate part. The male thread screws into it and the taper expands the female part, putting it into tension. Residual stress comes from quenched in stress, after dropping out of the mold, when the different areas of the part cool at different rates. Applied stress has to be designed out of the part by varying the cross sectional thickness of the part. Residual stress gets annealed out. The time and temperature is dependent on the particular plastic. A quick check to tell if residual stress is present in a transparent polycarbonate part is to place a polarized filter or even a pair of polarized sunglasses in front of a light bulb and let the now polarized light shine through the part.
nigga did u try to skate on it?
Amnesia I think you hit the nail on the head, this feels like less of a community driven thing and a fight that we all know between customer and company. Very disheartening.
As for the cracked polycarb bottom, I'm amazed that other people have suffered from this problem and were okay enough with it to not say anything. Or maybe they did and I missed it? I don't know. At any rate, regardless of how other people feel, I consider the damage done to be unacceptable.
As I said, I bought some lexan and m3 screws, which will arrive this week. I've already measured the thickness of polycarbonate where the foot mounts, and I'll machine the lexan I bought to that same thickness (approximately), punch and countersink some holes, and see what kind of torque you need to crack it. I'm not sure if I think it's going to be a little or a lot.
Maybe I'll make some attempts at testing thermal stress stuff while I'm at it.
add a FAQ, that's what they're for
and this brings me to my updated set of requests:
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.
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Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.
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Actually, I feel the same way.
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.
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Actually, I feel the same way.
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no kiddingAlso requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.
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Actually, I feel the same way.
third
Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
no kiddingAlso requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.
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Actually, I feel the same way.
third
Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
no kiddingAlso requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.
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Actually, I feel the same way.
third
Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
Showing the defects to identify their reason and show people what to look out for is good and should be encouraged.
What I/we don’t believe should be in this thread are specific requests for a specific order. Such as: “I didn’t receive stabs with my order #282 pls refund me 12,75€” or similar. This is something that should be between the GB Organizers and the buyer until a solution has been found or too much time has passed.
“I got refunded the 12,75€ for the Stabs” or “I still haven’t received an nascent after a month” would be fine, because that is useful information for everyone.
Not all information is relevant and interesting to everyone I this GB. And our point was to try to keep that information out of this thread, in order to not waste everyone’s time.
What I/we don’t believe should be in this thread are specific requests for a specific order. Such as: “I didn’t receive stabs with my order #282 pls refund me 12,75€” or similar. This is something that should be between the GB Organizers and the buyer until a solution has been found or too much time has passed.
So I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.
this is what it looks like(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/40b0431b8b1f2dfcaa750a3c501817e1.jpg)So I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.
Can you take a picture of it plugged it. Easier to tell that way
#crackgate ;D
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
#crackgate ;D
Good thing I got that alu bottom :D
this is what it looks likeSo I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.
Can you take a picture of it plugged it. Easier to tell that wayShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/40b0431b8b1f2dfcaa750a3c501817e1.jpg)
While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
- The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining. This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
- The material is not polycarbonate. It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.
PC is strong. They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake. It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe. No way. It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.
I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell. From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb. Maybe we can find out on our own.
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
The cases are aluminum. I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway. We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it. ;)While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
- The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining. This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
- The material is not polycarbonate. It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.
PC is strong. They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake. It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe. No way. It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.
I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell. From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb. Maybe we can find out on our own.
Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.
As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping. :))
The cases are aluminum. I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway. We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it. ;)
The cases are aluminum. I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway. We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it. ;)
Better add proximity to magnetic fields and radiation too, just in case.
The cases are aluminum. I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway. We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it. ;)
Better add proximity to magnetic fields and radiation too, just in case.
OK, just to be safe, I'm writing an equation to account for gravity waves, dark matter, AND dark energy.
The foot is steel.The cases are aluminum. I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway. We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it. ;)While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
- The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining. This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
- The material is not polycarbonate. It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.
PC is strong. They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake. It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe. No way. It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.
I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell. From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb. Maybe we can find out on our own.
Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.
As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping. :))
I ran some very quick numbers with a more conservative temperature range (4.44 to 35.0°C) and found a difference of only 0.4mm across the entire 250mm length; 0.1mm expansion for the PC and 0.5mm expansion for the steel. I'm using linear temperature expansion coefficients of 0.000012 for steel and 0.0000675 for "standard" polycarbonate. It's fall/winter across the Northern Hemisphere so I think this temperature range is probably more representative of the real world.The foot is steel.The cases are aluminum. I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway. We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it. ;)While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
- The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining. This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
- The material is not polycarbonate. It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.
PC is strong. They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake. It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe. No way. It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.
I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell. From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb. Maybe we can find out on our own.
Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.
As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping. :))
The problem here is that the shipping company has to pay nothing if the problem is due to the temperature differences, as it is listed in the terms of service.
I ran some very quick numbers with a more conservative temperature range (4.44 to 35.0°C) and found a difference of only 0.4mm across the entire 250mm length; 0.1mm expansion for the PC and 0.5mm expansion for the steel. I'm using linear temperature expansion coefficients of 0.000012 for steel and 0.0000675 for "standard" polycarbonate. It's fall/winter across the Northern Hemisphere so I think this temperature range is probably more representative of the real world.
Moreover, the photographic evidence suggests the stress occurs radially from the screw center and not from linear "stretching" along the length of the board/foot. I'm not a materials scientist so you can take all this with a grain of salt, but I would expect a difference in thermal expansion to cause fractures in a linear pattern matching the "faces" of polycarb most closely aligned with the expanding metal -- fractures pointing out, away from the relative center. We don't see that here. If there's expansion relative to the foot then it's probably not an issue.
I'd like to suggest that, if there's thermal expansion at play here, perhaps it's between the screw and the screw hole. Material expansion would naturally translate to the screw growing and the hole shrinking relative to each other. If the PC bottoms were machined with very tight tolerance at the screw holes that could definitely be a problem, and could produce the pattern of cracking that we've seen so far.
Or it could even be some critical combination of over-tightening AND thermal expansion -- a "snug" screw head expanding down into the PC while the PC expands up into the fastener. :confused:
I think you got the numbers swapped, the PC expands more than the steel.
Remember that the keyboard would likely have been assembled warm, and then flown in a very cold airplane. Temperature difference between Malaysia and The northwest isn't what matters, it's the difference between Malaysia and air temperature at 30,000 feet. Unless the airplane cargo hold is heated and pressurized, which I imagine it isn't. Also was it flown or transported by ship? That makes a difference I think.
Then, two things happen: One, the polycarbonate hole shrinks against the threads and head. Meanwhile, the the polycarbonate pulls together against the two screws on the end. I'm not saying it's thermal expansion, but I still can believe it.
Anyway it's a moot point from the perspective of those of us who received defective products, we need parts replaced until we have in hand what we paid money for.
Q. Can panels be nailed into place instead of screwing?
A. It is not recommended to nail sheets rather than screw. Polycarbonate expands in hot weather and contracts in cold. Pre-drill and screw panels in place to allow for panel expansion and contraction with temperature changes.
Q. Is it necessary to pre-drill holes before installing polycarbonate sheets?
A. When it comes to the installation of polycarbonate sheets, pre-drilling is a must! Pre-drilling allows for the sheets to expand and contract due to changes in temperature. Failure to pre-drill can result in the sheet warping and/or cracking around the screw.
To whoever said the areas around the screws shouldn't be the coldest, you are wrong. Plastic is an insulator, metal is a thermal conductor. The plastic parts touching metal will always be the coldest/hottest points because the metal will pull the heat from the plastic. The center hole would be the most impacted as it is the furthest from any direct heat source. Basically the foot works like a heatsink. Now whether or not this is the problem remains to be seen, but it COULD be.We will discuss with the manufacturer. By the way, Juahenza will put up a google sheet form at the 2nd post of this thread later for those have received cracked bottom.
Other things to check:
If you install the left and right bolts, is the center hole correctly centered between the foot and the base?
Is there any sort of chemical on the screws? Lube, machine oil, etc?
Was the foot cleaned before being installed (for chemicals, as if for example there was still machine oil in one of the threads, that could cause issues)?
Are all the threads in the foot the same depth, could the center hole for example be slightly (less than 1mm) deeper and the screw head itself is cracking the plastic?
Are the holes milled to the same size?
Are the holes clean? Are there any burrs or anything else that could cause uneven force distribution?
Were the screw holes predrilled? (To avoid cracking polycarbonate, you normally drill out a smaller hole and then ream it out bigger so cut is clean):
http://www.ameriluxinternational.com/faq.phpQuoteQ. Can panels be nailed into place instead of screwing?
A. It is not recommended to nail sheets rather than screw. Polycarbonate expands in hot weather and contracts in cold. Pre-drill and screw panels in place to allow for panel expansion and contraction with temperature changes.
Q. Is it necessary to pre-drill holes before installing polycarbonate sheets?
A. When it comes to the installation of polycarbonate sheets, pre-drilling is a must! Pre-drilling allows for the sheets to expand and contract due to changes in temperature. Failure to pre-drill can result in the sheet warping and/or cracking around the screw.
Do you have a rough ETA on the premium kits shipping out?
Do you have a rough ETA on the premium kits shipping out?
When I asked last page I was told they'd start shipping out not this week but the next.
We will discuss with the manufacturer. By the way, Juahenza will put up a google sheet form at the 2nd post of this thread later for those have received cracked bottom.
#crackgate ;D
Good thing I got that alu bottom :D
Same same :D !
Saw some pictures of a black EXENT on Reddit today and it looked just as awful and smudgy as the dark gray did when I first brought that to attention (which, side note: If I had not asked why they looked so bad here in this thread, would this GB have just shipped awful dark grey cases to everyone? Seems like it.) Not holding out a lot of hope for good news on the dark gray case front.
Between the bad cases, the cracked poly carb, the silence... this has been an epic disaster.
When people first started complaining about all the big names attached to this and saying they should be held accountable... I was not really in agreement. But the deeper this disaster goes, the clearer it becomes to me that those well-known names were used to convince a lot of people to join an expensive buy which was being run by a crew not actually capable of delivering. I don't have past history with Juahenza but just from this GB alone it's starting to feel like this was a large promise that could not possibly have been fulfilled. If not that, then apparently literally everything went wrong and they can't fix it.
Either way, this has turned into quite a depressing situation.
I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered,
I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered,
Four boards; wow. I can't imagine having that much money tied up in this GB.
I'm really hoping the smudges in those Reddit pics are from finger grime. Because boy are they noticeable. That's the first time I've seen any imperfections on a black case.
Saw some pictures of a black EXENT on Reddit today and it looked just as awful and smudgy as the dark gray did when I first brought that to attention (which, side note: If I had not asked why they looked so bad here in this thread, would this GB have just shipped awful dark grey cases to everyone? Seems like it.) Not holding out a lot of hope for good news on the dark gray case front.
Between the bad cases, the cracked poly carb, the silence... this has been an epic disaster.
When people first started complaining about all the big names attached to this and saying they should be held accountable... I was not really in agreement. But the deeper this disaster goes, the clearer it becomes to me that those well-known names were used to convince a lot of people to join an expensive buy which was being run by a crew not actually capable of delivering. I don't have past history with Juahenza but just from this GB alone it's starting to feel like this was a large promise that could not possibly have been fulfilled. If not that, then apparently literally everything went wrong and they can't fix it.
Either way, this has turned into quite a depressing situation.
Just saw that one, and it did look smudged. I'd like to give the GB runners the benefit of the doubt, but that seems difficult to do while considering the facts of this buy.
While retaining full self-awareness and a strong desire to avoid being dramatic, I don't at this point find it overly dramatic to say that I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered, and am considering preemptively having the charges to my credit card reversed, unless the GB runners can come out and state unequivocally that any issues with remaining stock to be shipped will be fixed in their entirety before shipping.
If such a statement is not made with clarity and specifics in the next few days, it seems like self-infliction to simply wait for damaged boards to arrive, at which point I would be making it more difficult for myself to secure a credit card charge reversal. While this is definitely something I consider a last resort, and while I do wish the best for the GB runners, at some point self-preservation kicks in when it's becoming more and more clear that timeliness is being prioritized over quality, which is not acceptable in my humble view.
I don't want a broken product earlier; I'd like the advertised product when it is ready. Thanks for reading.
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I don't know what to say anymore.
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I don't know what to say anymore.
While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved
While I can certainly acknowledge that replacing my PC bottom is less important than shipping the rest of the GB board, at the same time I am unwilling to wait another 9 months for replacement.
While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved
...except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.
And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.
Hey guys,
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:
(https://imgur.com/7xcU3KU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/4RWvRaz.jpg)
While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved
...except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.
And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:
Do they look a little more grey in person? The grey and the black next to each other look very very similar
This was probably done because you achieve more consistent results the darker the anodizing. Going back to light gray would have given the same splotchy results in this grade of aluminum. I'd rather have clean anodizing even if it's not quite medium gray than splotchy medium gray.
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:
Thanks for the update, though I find it a bit ridiculous that codywanks, who is not officially part of the crew who is running this GB, is the only person giving us real, relevant information. I appreciate the updates, but don't appreciate the lack of transparency and info directly from the GB runners themselves. Oh well.
The gray top look awesome now!
Gray tops are looking pretty good. Thanks for sharing.
Woo! Grey tops looks fantastic.
It might just be the photo or the camera (or me) but some of those tops still look a little splotchy when you zoom in :/
Do they look a little more grey in person? The grey and the black next to each other look very very similar
This was probably done because you achieve more consistent results the darker the anodizing. Going back to light gray would have given the same splotchy results in this grade of aluminum. I'd rather have clean anodizing even if it's not quite medium gray than splotchy medium gray.
Which brings me to my next point. Is there a bootclient for linux or mac?
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It seems there are a lot of PCBs that need reflowing, did PCB factory mess thing up?
Also any update on Alu bottoms which went to anodizing?
Do you have any information on the alu bottom ? :)
It seems there are a lot of PCBs that need reflowing, did PCB factory mess thing up?
YesAlso any update on Alu bottoms which went to anodizing?Do you have any information on the alu bottom ? :)
These updates remain the most current.
1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2525400#msg2525400) 2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2527199#msg2527199)
The anodizer was told to prioritize the Grey tops. I doubt he had enough time left over to make progress with the bottoms.
Hey guys,
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:
(https://imgur.com/7xcU3KU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/4RWvRaz.jpg)
While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved
...except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.
And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.
Codywanks (or Yuktsi or Juahenza or anyone who is listening)
I'm not sure what your plans are for those of us who received bum PCBs, but I wanted to talk negotiable options. In either case, I need my polycarb replaced.
- Option A: Refund me the price of the PCB, and approximately 15$ on top to cover the cost of replacement LEDs. They'll get here faster if I order them locally, and doesn't burden you guys with shipping them out. I will then repair my PCB myself (or try to I guess), and you ship my replacement polycarbonate out within the next week or two.
- Option B: Send me a new PCB and an aluminum switchplate, which I will pay 50% of the cost of (15$). Ship these two items out along with my replacement polycarbonate bottom, in, I dunno, something like the next month.
Let's discuss these two options. Happy to take discuss in private if that's what you'd prefer.
Codywanks (or Yuktsi or Juahenza or anyone who is listening)
I'm not sure what your plans are for those of us who received bum PCBs, but I wanted to talk negotiable options. In either case, I need my polycarb replaced.
- Option A: Refund me the price of the PCB, and approximately 15$ on top to cover the cost of replacement LEDs. They'll get here faster if I order them locally, and doesn't burden you guys with shipping them out. I will then repair my PCB myself (or try to I guess), and you ship my replacement polycarbonate out within the next week or two.
- Option B: Send me a new PCB and an aluminum switchplate, which I will pay 50% of the cost of (15$). Ship these two items out along with my replacement polycarbonate bottom, in, I dunno, something like the next month.
Let's discuss these two options. Happy to take discuss in private if that's what you'd prefer.
Hey, I think that TARO et al needs to do more than they're currently doing to make things right - and my posts bear that out - but asking for a full refund on a PCB that needs a little rework is excessive.
Hey dev/ship/staff/assistants, would it be possible to get a few more shots of the black and grey side by side? I'm worried about how dark the grey appears to have turned out.
I still have not recieved a tracking number or anything in regards to the worldwide shippingWhat kit did you get, I believe they have only started shipping the basic kits with 8° feet.
I still have not recieved a tracking number or anything in regards to the worldwide shippingWhat kit did you get, I believe they have only started shipping the basic kits with 8° feet.
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I ordered the premuim kit, any ETA on that?
I ordered the premuim kit, any ETA on that?
when will it be shipped..alu bottom..
please....I want to get it in 2017..
Does anyone here know who can I ask about my Exent shipment? It's been stuck for 12 days in Malaysia and "in route to spain". I tried contacting to the gmail in the paypal invoice, but noone responds. Any ideas?You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.
Does anyone here know who can I ask about my Exent shipment? It's been stuck for 12 days in Malaysia and "in route to spain". I tried contacting to the gmail in the paypal invoice, but noone responds. Any ideas?
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.
I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.
My hope is that they can ask to the courier, since it being in Malaysia makes things a bit difficult for me to reach them and ask. Also, thanks for the offer, but as you can see in the link below, there's not much to look at hahah
https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv (https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv)I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.
I know that it can take quite some time to pass customs and as you say, they usually won't give any info about it when it's passed to the destination country, but in those cases you should be able to reach to your postal office and ask them with the same tracking number. If it's in their hands, they will give you tracking info, even if it's only that they have it or it's in route. This time though, it's been 2 weeks since last update, and Correos (Spain's postal service) doesn't know anything about it.
Of course I'm sure it will arrive, but at this point I'm starting to get worried because it may be stuck somewhere and I can't do anything about it. Anyway, I PMd yuktsi, juahenza and cody to ask them for some help.
Thanks for the fast response and help guys!
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.
My hope is that they can ask to the courier, since it being in Malaysia makes things a bit difficult for me to reach them and ask. Also, thanks for the offer, but as you can see in the link below, there's not much to look at hahah
https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv (https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv)I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.
I know that it can take quite some time to pass customs and as you say, they usually won't give any info about it when it's passed to the destination country, but in those cases you should be able to reach to your postal office and ask them with the same tracking number. If it's in their hands, they will give you tracking info, even if it's only that they have it or it's in route. This time though, it's been 2 weeks since last update, and Correos (Spain's postal service) doesn't know anything about it.
Of course I'm sure it will arrive, but at this point I'm starting to get worried because it may be stuck somewhere and I can't do anything about it. Anyway, I PMd yuktsi, juahenza and cody to ask them for some help.
Thanks for the fast response and help guys!
From my knowledge, most probably has left the origin country (malaysia) and is currently going through spain customs.
Please take notice that it is also December, which can take a toll on shipping times due to the influx of holiday shipments.
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
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With a half price switch plate?Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
With a half price switch plate?Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
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Why do you need another plateWith a half price switch plate?Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
Why do you need another plateWith a half price switch plate?Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
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Why do you need another plateWith a half price switch plate?Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb
Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so. And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
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Or, more to the point: why do you think you're PCB issues entitle you to a discounted switch plate?
Reparations; my experience has been bad. Frankly I'm surprised you're so accepting of the situation. But I reiterate, the terms offered in my comment are fully negotiable. The only thing I'm 100% inflexible on is getting a replacement polycarbonate bottom.
I'm fine with discussing my offers communally, but it would be nice to actually hear back from the GB leadership some day.
At any rate, I'm more inclined at this point to go for a simple refund, since I finally managed to fix the PCB, and have only the polycarbonate replaced. That's the simpler and I think most mutually beneficial option.
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Reparations; my experience has been bad. Frankly I'm surprised you're so accepting of the situation. But I reiterate, the terms offered in my comment are fully negotiable. The only thing I'm 100% inflexible on is getting a replacement polycarbonate bottom.
I'm fine with discussing my offers communally, but it would be nice to actually hear back from the GB leadership some day.
At any rate, I'm more inclined at this point to go for a simple refund, since I finally managed to fix the PCB, and have only the polycarbonate replaced. That's the simpler and I think most mutually beneficial option.
You say you want reparations (actual damages) but the rest of your post makes clear that you want punitive damages.
This isn't McDonald's. You don't get free fries because they screwed up your burger.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means. However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.
Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means. However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.
Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
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I think it's ok to ask for a refund and return everything, or ask for a replacement for the damaged parts and return the damaged parts.
I think it's ok to ask for a refund and return everything, or ask for a replacement for the damaged parts and return the damaged parts.
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I don't share your perspective. I don't feel we have been treated poorly. And I don't feel we deserve more than replacements (with them requesting we return the damaged part first) or refunds (with them requesting a return first). I can see your perspective, I just don't share it. I feel like you are asking too much. But ultimately it doesn't matter what I think, and it doesn't matter what you think, all that matters is how the person making the decisions thinks your damaged items should be handled, and they have offered refunds if you don't agree with their decision as your only investment in this project has been money that is a 100% recoup of investment, which is pretty damn good.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means. However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.
Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
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This seems like the most reasonable solution to me. I'd be happy if they could manage this.Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means. However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.
Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
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I'm with you on this. My expectations are (for me specifically):
1) Replaced polycarb bottom (with no need for return of the original - it's not like they can rework it)
2) Replacement RGB LEDs or funds to cover their cost (minimal, but the principle of the matter)
Generally speaking, I think the GB runners should offer the following:
1) Polycarb bottom - no hassle replacement. Maybe offer alu bottom upgrade at cost if any extras are available.
2) Offer of exchange of defective PCB for working replacement at no cost to purchaser or RGB LEDs for self-repair
Even though I think this GB was handled poorly with somewhat of a turnaround at the very end, I'm not looking to profit in order to punish TARO. The damage Juahenza has done to their reputations is punishment enough IMO.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means. However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.
Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
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I'm with you on this. My expectations are (for me specifically):
1) Replaced polycarb bottom (with no need for return of the original - it's not like they can rework it)
2) Replacement RGB LEDs or funds to cover their cost (minimal, but the principle of the matter)
Generally speaking, I think the GB runners should offer the following:
1) Polycarb bottom - no hassle replacement. Maybe offer alu bottom upgrade at cost if any extras are available.
2) Offer of exchange of defective PCB for working replacement at no cost to purchaser or RGB LEDs for self-repair
Even though I think this GB was handled poorly with somewhat of a turnaround at the very end, I'm not looking to profit in order to punish TARO. The damage Juahenza has done to their reputations is punishment enough IMO.
I think they should do at least one other thing, assuming they haven't already: I think they should release at least the PCB and Switchplate CAD drawings to us, if not the whole keyboard. At some point this group buy will close entirely and won't be supported anymore. It would be nice, if nothing but for the comfort, to be able to get replacement parts, even if they have to be acquired of our own volition.
I think they should do at least one other thing, assuming they haven't already: I think they should release at least the PCB and Switchplate CAD drawings to us, if not the whole keyboard. At some point this group buy will close entirely and won't be supported anymore. It would be nice, if nothing but for the comfort, to be able to get replacement parts, even if they have to be acquired of our own volition.
The switchplate design is exceedingly simple. It probably looks complicated to you if you've never been involved in the design of one before, but honestly it's a perfectly normal tray mount plate with switch holes for a 65% layout.
Would it be nice to do? Sure. But there's nothing exceedingly special about the PCB or plate design. Someone with some experience could create us a PCB and plate with some pictures and measurements in a handful of hours.
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.
I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.
I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.
Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).
This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.
I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.
Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).
This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.
k. I think what was delivered to me was pretty egregious, but what can you expect right? It's just a group buy.
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.
I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.
Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).
This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.
k. I think what was delivered to me was pretty egregious, but what can you expect right? It's just a group buy.
Dude. You've been reading my posts through this thread. I'm no fan of Juahenza at this point for what he's done with the buy, or TARO for at a minimum turning a blind eye and letting things devolve into a ****storm. You know that.
But I'm telling you, you're off-base on this. Even in a retail setting, you wouldn't be owed what you're asking.
If I was going to have a new switch plate cut I'd want to support switch top opening.
For what happens with PancakeMSTR, the big question is THERE IS NO STANDARD to judge the quality of a community GB. People use their own standard to measure whether PancakeMSTR's demand is fair or so much, while these standard is very unclear and sometimes influenced by their own taste or even their feelings to what's PancakeMSTR said.
If this happens on Amazon or Taobao, buyers can keep everything and get a full refund, cuz Amazon and Taobao's strategy tends to protect buyers other than sellers. But clearly, it won't happens here, technically sellers never made any promise, and it nearly stupid for them spend so much on customers service for reputation, and we do should not treat GB organizer so strictly in case hurt their passion, anyway MK GB is a relatively new-born industry.
But I think it's time to set a standard.
For what happens with PancakeMSTR, the big question is THERE IS NO STANDARD to judge the quality of a community GB. People use their own standard to measure whether PancakeMSTR's demand is fair or so much, while these standard is very unclear and sometimes influenced by their own taste or even their feelings to what's PancakeMSTR said.
If this happens on Amazon or Taobao, buyers can keep everything and get a full refund, cuz Amazon and Taobao's strategy tends to protect buyers other than sellers. But clearly, it won't happens here, technically sellers never made any promise, and it nearly stupid for them spend so much on customers service for reputation, and we do should not treat GB organizer so strictly in case hurt their passion, anyway MK GB is a relatively new-born industry.
But I think it's time to set a standard.
You are not understanding how GB work at all...
PancakeMSTR isn't wrong to want a partial refund... he DIDN'T get what he expected, BUT, this is a GB and as such was never guaranteed to receive anything. Either way though, wanting a refund may be reasonable, expecting one in a GB is something all together different because in a GB, all funds are allocated.
You have to be able to FUND reFUNDs.
Who would you suggest PAYS for the refunds? The money you paid was used to produce keyboards. There might be some left, but they still need to do shipping and try and replace what parts they can. Do you want the people who get non-defective boards to pay the ones who didn't?
Offering a refund without a return is not a "strategy". Amazon and Tao-Bao are businesses with financing. Amazon likely has a massive pot of funding just for refunds and customer satisfaction. This is money with NO OTHER PURPOSE aside from paying out refunds. Sure they might reinvest it somewhere else if they don't need it all, but this is something that is budgeted into their cost of operations. It's rolled into their pricing structure. Every single product amazon sells has a few extra cents of markup JUST for refunds. Or maybe it comes out of the prime fees. maybe both. The point is it's not just some happy accident. They specific have funds and budget for it.
That can totally be done with GBs, but you need to understand what you are actually asking. If you want to have a fund to cover issues, then you need to expect to pay into it. Would you for instance be interested in paying in an extra $50 a person as a sort of "compensation/issue fund". This is the basic concept behind insurance. Everyone pays a bit extra and then since more often than not the issues impact a small subset of the total, you can use that fund to compensate their issues. If every board is flawed though, then all you get back is your own $50.
The next question then becomes what happens to that money if it ISN'T spent at the end of a GB? Do you refund it back after? How do you prove it wasn't spent? Do you let the GB runner keep it?
NO ONE will run a GB if they themselves are personally liable for the flaws of whatever they receive. If you expect a refund, you grossly misunderstand what a GB is. A GB IS NOT A RETAIL PURCHASE. You are as a group collectively buying something. The reason you use the term GB runner and not vendor or retailer is because the "runner" is just another member of the collective who has volunteered to coordinate the collective's purchases, usually for a tiny bit of compensation. Sure some of the people running GB are businesses, and sure some of the businesses call things GB when they are in fact retail sales, but THIS is clearly not one of those cases. If you can't deal with this, then DON'T JOIN GBs and stick to retail.
Quick update on the shipping. All basic kits with no add-ons of the aluminum bottom, 12 deg feet and brass plate had been all shipped. Tracking will be updated to your PayPal if you still don't receive on in the next 24 hours. Feel free to send me a PM.
Next, we will be getting orders with brass plate and 12 deg feet out. Cheers.
and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.
Quoteand I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.
roflmao
I am not trying to make a big deal of this.
Quoteand I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.
roflmao
Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?
I just personally can't hack it.
I'm [...] a pain in the ass.
Quoteand I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.
roflmao
Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?
I don't think you understand what out of context is. He didnt take that quote out of context. You feel you're entitled to that $15-$30 in compensation. Deleting the rest of the post doesn't change the meaning of your statement.
This is out of context quoting:QuoteI just personally can't hack it.
I'm [...] a pain in the ass.
For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.
Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan?
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?
idk if you were paying attention but yes, they did request us to repair our pcbs themselves... hence why they sent out the broken pcbs knowing they qere not fully functioning.One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?
You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
idk if you were paying attention but yes, they did request us to repair our pcbs themselves... hence why they sent out the broken pcbs knowing they qere not fully functioning.One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?
You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
idk if you were paying attention but yes, they did request us to repair our pcbs themselves... hence why they sent out the broken pcbs knowing they qere not fully functioning.One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?
You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
Maybe there should be a fee attached to every group buy as a "**** up" fund? I know I would be happy to pay into such a thing.
For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.
As for how the group buy leaders should be dealing with their **** up fund, yeah, it really should be factored into both the timeline and the price they charge for their product. It works right? There are two cases: (A) Something goes wrong, but lucky for them they have some money to fix the problem or (B) Everything goes perfect and they keep the money, and deservedly so because they clearly ran a great GB if nothing failed.
Everyone would be happier if we knew that if something went wrong, we would be compensated (in one form or another) without a huge amount of hassle.
Also, if you can't deal with what a group buy is, don't join one goes both ways Amnesia. Know what you're getting into if you want to run one. Sure as **** keeps me out of the game.
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?
You're right though, I'm intent on making these my last group buys, but that's not necessarily because I don't give a **** about the keyboard community. No, I just personally can't hack it. The waiting, the worrying, the delays, the nervousness. It's more stress than it's worth. I basically, at this point, refuse to buy a product that isn't already sitting on a shelf in a warehouse or storage room somewhere, waiting to be shipped. The only things I'll make exceptions for are keycaps that are really special in some way to me (that's why I joined GMK 9009 R2 for example).
All that though is until I see that the community changes on a fundamental level the way it runs group buys, or in general produces products. This system we have? It's a pain in the ass. We need some more structure, some better pathways. Easy to achieve a better system? Definitely not. Necessary? I think so, otherwise we are going to repeat this cycle endlessly, until everyone gets so sick of dealing with a GB they stop joining them altogether.
Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan? When do you intend on shipping out replacement parts? What is the response of the group buy leadership to what's been discussed regarding replacement parts/receipt of damaged products/compensation?
Quoteand I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.
roflmao
Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?
I don't think you understand what out of context is. He didnt take that quote out of context. You feel you're entitled to that $15-$30 in compensation. Deleting the rest of the post doesn't change the meaning of your statement.
This is out of context quoting:QuoteI just personally can't hack it.
I'm [...] a pain in the ass.
Yes it is taken out of context. Omits the reasoning behind the conclusion, makes it looks like I'm saying I feel arbitrarily entitled to the money, which isn't true (although I expect most of you to interpret the complete statement that way anyway).
Quoting out of context (sometimes referred to as contextomy or quote mining) is an informal fallacy and a type of false attribution[citation needed] in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.
Maybe there should be a fee attached to every group buy as a "**** up" fund? I know I would be happy to pay into such a thing.There is for most, and probably was for this, but you don't plan the intensity of **** ups.
For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.
This is just straight up stupid. You know that won't work. You already have an agreement with the runner when you personally sign up and expect perfection, knowing that that won't happen. You ***** about the waiting with the modern IBM boards Eclipse is doing, but you know he's going for your perfection. The group buy you want where it takes no time and it's 100% doesn't, and will never exist, so make your mind up about your expectations.
As for how the group buy leaders should be dealing with their **** up fund, yeah, it really should be factored into both the timeline and the price they charge for their product. It works right? There are two cases: (A) Something goes wrong, but lucky for them they have some money to fix the problem or (B) Everything goes perfect and they keep the money, and deservedly so because they clearly ran a great GB if nothing failed.
As noted above, it's a thing that is factored in always. You make it sound easy, but you'd struggle to do better than what they are as you have no experience. Or prove everyone wrong with your lawyer GB.
Everyone would be happier if we knew that if something went wrong, we would be compensated (in one form or another) without a huge amount of hassle.
You aren't owed compensation. Only the working product. I understand you don't have that, but expecting more? C'mon dude.
Also, if you can't deal with what a group buy is, don't join one goes both ways Amnesia. Know what you're getting into if you want to run one. Sure as **** keeps me out of the game.
I wish you knew all of this going in. You shouldn't join any group buys.
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?
Do you know how long it'll take for them to fix it on their side? I'm pretty sure they said at least a few weeks. They made the (better) decision to ship it and allow purchasers but fix it, as it'll mean people getting boards sooner etc. I don't think they expected someone to constantly whine about compensation. It's ridiculous that you're this entitled. Absolutely unreasonable.
You're right though, I'm intent on making these my last group buys, but that's not necessarily because I don't give a **** about the keyboard community. No, I just personally can't hack it. The waiting, the worrying, the delays, the nervousness. It's more stress than it's worth. I basically, at this point, refuse to buy a product that isn't already sitting on a shelf in a warehouse or storage room somewhere, waiting to be shipped. The only things I'll make exceptions for are keycaps that are really special in some way to me (that's why I joined GMK 9009 R2 for example).
Good.
All that though is until I see that the community changes on a fundamental level the way it runs group buys, or in general produces products. This system we have? It's a pain in the ass. We need some more structure, some better pathways. Easy to achieve a better system? Definitely not. Necessary? I think so, otherwise we are going to repeat this cycle endlessly, until everyone gets so sick of dealing with a GB they stop joining them altogether.
I agree that the current standards held by the community and members running buys probably aren't high enough, but we can only have people such as senter set shining examples about what the perfect group buy is. Nobody aims to run a ****/slow/bad group buy, but with the amount that are happening, it's unrealistic to expect every single one to go without issues.
Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan? When do you intend on shipping out replacement parts? What is the response of the group buy leadership to what's been discussed regarding replacement parts/receipt of damaged products/compensation?
As a group buy runner, you aim to deal with problems after shipping. If there are 4 problems in 100 orders, and the 10th person has a problem, you have to delay 90 people. That simply doesn't make sense to force others to wait. They'll have a plan, as they're all big names in the community, but give them time to assess everything completely and finish shipping before looking at the more serious fixes (changing packaging method does not fall under this).
As a group buy runner, you aim to deal with problems after shipping. If there are 4 problems in 100 orders, and the 10th person has a problem, you have to delay 90 people. That simply doesn't make sense to force others to wait. They'll have a plan, as they're all big names in the community, but give them time to assess everything completely and finish shipping before looking at the more serious fixes (changing packaging method does not fall under this).
Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!
@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? [...] ****.Off.
I expect opposition. I expect most of you to disagree with what I have to say, to hate me, to ridicule me, to disregard me, to insult me. But if no one acts as a voice of dissent, a voice of difference, then no new information flows into the community, and that's damaging.
Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? [...] ****.Off.
:rolleyes:
I'd continue talking about your points, but it's like talking to a wall, so I tap out already.
Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? [...] ****.Off.
:rolleyes:
I'd continue talking about your points, but it's like talking to a wall, so I tap out already.
Hey Terry Mathews? There's out of context for you.
If everyone around you is saying you're acting like a duck, maybe, just maybe, you are a duck.
If everyone around you is saying you're acting like a duck, maybe, just maybe, you are a duck.
Everyone around Noah was saying he was a duck too, but he built that ark anyways and then saved Jesus from Poseidon's water attack. Usually probably a duck though. A duck or an Islamic Apostle, those are your options.
That's all I have left to say.
Loving the thinly veiled passive aggression. Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain. **** me for trying, right.
You know what? It was Cherry picking. That's what Clasicks did (and continues to do), vs. taking what I said out of context (though I maintain that, colloquially, my usage was acceptable).
Who ****ing cares.
Is it possible for mods to remove Pancake from this thread for some time? Like a month or something... anything...
That's all I have left to say.
...Loving the thinly veiled passive aggression. Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain. **** me for trying, right.You know what? It was Cherry picking. That's what Clasicks did (and continues to do), vs. taking what I said out of context (though I maintain that, colloquially, my usage was acceptable).
Who ****ing cares.
I think you are wasting your breath at this point, you have made your perspective abundantly clear, some of us half agree, most of us don't and it clearly isn't getting you anywhere with the GB runners. I think at this point you aren't helping your cause and you're just getting into fights with people or defending yourself against antagonism that is better left ignored.
I'm sure you have better things to do than type your fingers raw repeating yourself feeling like you're trying to punch through brick for all the good it's doing. I believe the creators will do something to take care of the issues your board has, it might not end up being as much as you want, and I'm sorry if that ends up being the case, but at this point do yourself a favor and let it go for now, come back to it later and see where things are at, or wait for their next official update and hopefully it won't make you even more upset.
You're right. I agree completely. And that's fine if what the leaders do doesn't match exactly my requests, as long as they are met to some reasonable degree (in the interest of avoiding ambiguity, something to the effect of at minimum replacing the polycarb, which I think we all agree is reasonable).
But as much as I'm frustrated, angry, and disappointed with the group buy leadership, I'm nothing short of appalled by the experiences and interactions I've had with this community in this GB. Having gotten in totally non-constructive altercations in the past, I've put a lot of effort recently into voicing my opinions and positions in a as firm but non-inflammatory way as I know how.
I want to step back, just wait for an actual update from the leadership, but honestly? It's hard when my character is being disparaged from every direction, directly and indirectly. As stupid as it is, I have a strong innate desire to defend myself. I should let the opinions of internet strangers slide off may back, but it's not easy for me.
You're right. I agree completely. And that's fine if what the leaders do doesn't match exactly my requests, as long as they are met to some reasonable degree (in the interest of avoiding ambiguity, something to the effect of at minimum replacing the polycarb, which I think we all agree is reasonable).
But as much as I'm frustrated, angry, and disappointed with the group buy leadership, I'm nothing short of appalled by the experiences and interactions I've had with this community in this GB. Having gotten in totally non-constructive altercations in the past, I've put a lot of effort recently into voicing my opinions and positions in a as firm but non-inflammatory way as I know how.
I want to step back, just wait for an actual update from the leadership, but honestly? It's hard when my character is being disparaged from every direction, directly and indirectly. As stupid as it is, I have a strong innate desire to defend myself. I should let the opinions of internet strangers slide off may back, but it's not easy for me.
I agree that the polycarb should absolutely be replaced. I know they haven't said anything formal about it, but I really do believe they will replace those, even if it's after handling some other things. I totally understand wanting to defend yourself, especially when your character gets called into question like it does so often on the internet. I have had to work really hard to learn to let things go and my post history shows I'm not very good at it.
despite the flak the GB leadership has been getting in this thread, mostly for not communicating as much as many of us feel they could be, and for the production/shipping issues with the boards, I really do believe they will step up and make sure everything gets addressed by the end of this.
And so far the cases are looking gorgeous, I'm still a little concerned with the update to the grey cases looking so much darker and very very similar to the black case, but am hoping that was just the lighting in that one picture...
Just wondering how many people actually checked the update section (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880) on the first page?
The polycarbonate bottom will be replaced. We have still yet to come with a quantity to reproduce, but it's going to take awhile. All orders that went out in the last 2 weeks have the feet detached, so there won't be anymore cracked bottom, same goes with the PCB.This is good news. Thanks.
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.
The polycarbonate bottom will be replaced. We have still yet to come with a quantity to reproduce, but it's going to take awhile. All orders that went out in the last 2 weeks have the feet detached, so there won't be anymore cracked bottom, same goes with the PCB.
There's no question they got that right: https://imgur.com/a/CryyS
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.
Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself ;D
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.
Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself ;D
Check the update section on the first page: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880)
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.
Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself ;D
Check the update section on the first page: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880)
There's only a form for cracked bottoms there?
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(
That info will be on your paypal invoice.
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(
That info will be on your paypal invoice.
Which is why it would've been pretty cool if the invoice contained the word "Exent" or anything remotely pertaining to the buy with which to search a year's worth of email :P
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(
That info will be on your paypal invoice.
Which is why it would've been pretty cool if the invoice contained the word "Exent" or anything remotely pertaining to the buy with which to search a year's worth of email :P
Just go to paypal and limit it to Feb-Mar, it should be somewhere right around there.
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(
Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?
But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes? I've heard people say "there will be extras" since this GB started. Any reason you guys couldn't take polycarbonate from the extra kits, so that those of us who received damaged bottoms get a replacement faster, then manufacture new bottoms for the extra kits which aren't gonna start being sold for, I imagine, quite a while anyway?
I dunno if this is possible but I'd like to know if this can or cannot be done. I'd obviously like to get my replacement bottom sooner rather than later, so anything that can be done to expedite the process is appreciated.
"Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB)"Check your PayPal. I remember I did update the tracking of yours. Thanks <3
I remember I ordered grey, so I assume these are the ones that were planned to ship on the 11th last we knew?
Is there any good documentation for ps2avr/bootmapper? The best I can find is this Geekhack post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0), but it only seems to cover the basics. Or is that all there is to bootmapper? The only firmware I'm (slightly) familiar with is QMK, which doesn't have a GUI but has lots of documentation and many features.
"Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB)"Check your PayPal. I remember I did update the tracking of yours. Thanks <3
I remember I ordered grey, so I assume these are the ones that were planned to ship on the 11th last we knew?
You may have been spoilt a little by QMK. Bootmapperclient is great in terms of ease of use but it’s far less powerful than QMK.
I maybe wrong but a lot of the special function keys you can do in QMK aren’t in bootmapper, like tap/hold differences etc.You may have been spoilt a little by QMK. Bootmapperclient is great in terms of ease of use but it’s far less powerful than QMK.
What are the extra function missing in bootmapper?
There is a port of QMK to ps2avrGB boards here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). I haven't tried it so I'm not sure how well it works, but I hope to be able to use it on my Exent.
How's the status of the premium kits and alu bottoms? Have the bottoms finished anodizing yet? :)
Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.
I just realised the update on the first page was from 7th December so you’re probably right. I thought it was more recent than that.Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.
I assume they haven’t due to the additional work resulting from the cracked bottoms and dark gray reanodization.
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Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.
Man, can't you just enjoy it quietly? No need to further poke the hornets' nest.Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.
It's a Christmas miracle.
Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.
Man, can't you just enjoy it quietly? No need to further poke the hornets' nest.Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.
It's a Christmas miracle.
Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.
Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.
It's a Christmas miracle.
Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.Blotchy anodizing?
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
You're the second person in this thread with missing stabilizers. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a common thing. I ordered two sets of stabilizers; it'd suck if I got neither. The blotchy anodizing sounds pretty disappointing too.
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
Was yours shipped assembled? Or since they changed packaging?
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
*rollseyes* Sigh....
Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.
I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat. :rolleyes:
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
*rollseyes* Sigh....
Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.
I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat. :rolleyes:
Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:
https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS
It’s hard to capture in pictures because it just looks like the light reflecting off the board. But in person, you can better see the inconsistencies in the color - darker and lighter patches, as well as spots that look like fingerprint marks on the board. I wiped it clean and it still looks the same.
It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.
It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.
Welp, I'm starting to get worried about Aluminum bottoms' anodizing. But hopefully they will be fine since silver and black boards have been spectecular so far.black and silver are much easier to anodize. especially silver since its just clear, nearly impossible to **** up
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
*rollseyes* Sigh....
Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.
I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat. :rolleyes:
Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:
https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS
It’s hard to capture in pictures because it just looks like the light reflecting off the board. But in person, you can better see the inconsistencies in the color - darker and lighter patches, as well as spots that look like fingerprint marks on the board. I wiped it clean and it still looks the same.
It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.
****ing cracked bottoms for real...Juahenza has his work cut out for him. I still personally think that getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority right now (seeing as re-anodizing is already in progress).
Yeah anodizing looks iffy, probably more noticeable in person.
getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority
getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority
I think it would make more sense to complete delivery first so they get total numbers on replacement parts needed.
Has anyone with a premium kit gotten a shipping notice?
No shipping notice on premium here either.
And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.
No shipping notice on premium here either.
And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.
Let's have some decency, though. Christmas time, NYE coming up, his latest update is fairly extensive so I'd say it still qualifies as current. I'd say expecting any relevant news through the next week is pretty unrealistic, we can go back to gauging each others' eyes out after that.
No shipping notice on premium here either.
And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.
Let's have some decency, though. Christmas time, NYE coming up, his latest update is fairly extensive so I'd say it still qualifies as current. I'd say expecting any relevant news through the next week is pretty unrealistic, we can go back to gauging each others' eyes out after that.
Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.
The shtick is getting worn out.
Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.
The shtick is getting worn out.
I mean no disrespect but I was not responding to you, hence the quote. Am I just missing how your personal experience in private (or lack thereof) with the GB runners is relevant to what I just said?
I never said your case should be dismissed, I find it very crass that they've been remiss of your problem and I do agree it should be solved with the utmost urgency. What I said has absolutely nothing to do with that however and furthermore, we don't have to be ****s towards them just because they've been ****s towards us. That's not how I was taught, at least.
I hope they have a good time with their family and dear ones over Christmas time. That doesn't disqualify me from also wanting them to get their **** together asap.
Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.
The shtick is getting worn out.
I mean no disrespect but I was not responding to you, hence the quote. Am I just missing how your personal experience in private (or lack thereof) with the GB runners is relevant to what I just said?
I never said your case should be dismissed, I find it very crass that they've been remiss of your problem and I do agree it should be solved with the utmost urgency. What I said has absolutely nothing to do with that however and furthermore, we don't have to be ****s towards them just because they've been ****s towards us. That's not how I was taught, at least.
I hope they have a good time with their family and dear ones over Christmas time. That doesn't disqualify me from also wanting them to get their **** together asap.
It’s absolutely reasonable to expect an update by now, even if it doesn’t have a timeline. Is anything happening at all right now? Are they even still shipping orders? No one knows. Updates aren’t all that matters. People care about engagement.
It’s absolutely reasonable to expect an update by now, even if it doesn’t have a timeline. Is anything happening at all right now? Are they even still shipping orders? No one knows. Updates aren’t all that matters. People care about engagement.
I don't think any update at this point will be satisafcotry enough for this threads community.
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?
I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!I hear this. As for your tracking, have you tried 17track? If that finds nothing it’s probably either an incorrect reference or it hasn’t been picked up/scanned yet by the courier.
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?
I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.
I don’t entirely understand the need to white knight for them at this juncture.
Let’s not act like making a post on a forum every few days requires some sort of tremendous effort and time investment.
I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!I hear this. As for your tracking, have you tried 17track? If that finds nothing it’s probably either an incorrect reference or it hasn’t been picked up/scanned yet by the courier.
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?
I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.
I suspect it’s just Christmas causing huge back logs unfortunately. Bad time of year for all this!I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!I hear this. As for your tracking, have you tried 17track? If that finds nothing it’s probably either an incorrect reference or it hasn’t been picked up/scanned yet by the courier.
I have tried everything, it is sf-express, on there website it says shipment picked up.
Since Dec. 15th tho...nothing has changed..
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?
I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.
But it's bull****.
he's asking they address him after 3 weeks of no response. Either "We'll refund" or "We'll ship replacements". All he wants is just a response from the team on a small matterBut it's bull****.
If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?
But it's bull****.
If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?
he's asking they address him after 3 weeks of no response. Either "We'll refund" or "We'll ship replacements". All he wants is just a response from the team on a small matter
But it's bull****.
If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?
But it's bull****.
If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?
No. I want them to acknowledge my specific issue. It's not unreasonable.
I got mine yesterday. I'm missing the screws that hold the foot onto the keyboard and the stabs that I ordered.. Anyone else have this problem? Am I missing something here?
What’s been the best way to reach out to the GB runners about my stuff?
Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?
But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes?
There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.
The shtick is getting worn out.
The level of disrespect these joker's are showing us considering they're logging on is beyond belief.
Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.
Has anyone with a premium kit gotten a shipping notice?
Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:
https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS
Anyone got their tracking working?
I have a basic kit with grey top case, got the tracking 10 days ago and it's still not moving!
yuktsi said he was gonna looking into my tracking, and then went silence.
TBH, after months of delay and lack of response, I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!
I have tried everything, it is sf-express, on there website it says shipment picked up.
Since Dec. 15th tho...nothing has changed..
I suspect it’s just Christmas causing huge back logs unfortunately. Bad time of year for all this!
Usually I’d be more than happy to help out with this, but what you’ve said in the thread about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is nothing short of slander.
You’re welcome to PM me again after you’ve made a public apology. As it stands, I’m only a volunteer on the project and I don’t owe you any answers.
I haven’t been “active” by any stretch of the imagination. My last login was on the 15th of December; I even got one of my mates to screenshot my profile page in case you wanted proof.
It’s one thing to make valid accusations, I can deal with that, but all this talk about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is absolutely baseless and will not be tolerated.
The level of disrespect these joker's are showing us considering they're logging on is beyond belief.
Not sure what gave you that idea, but I just got back from a cruise. I haven’t been “active” by any stretch of the imagination. My last login was on the 15th of December; I even got one of my mates to screenshot my profile page in case you wanted proof.
It’s one thing to make valid accusations, I can deal with that, but all this talk about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is absolutely baseless and will not be tolerated.
Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.
Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.
Second, and more important, as far as I’m aware you aren’t even officially part of this GB... (snip)
Hmmm. I wonder how you knew to preserve the evidence if you weren't active (my emphasis added above)... Care to explain?
I'll eat the damn $6 before I'll apologize to you
Oh, here comes the ultimatum. Just in time when we thought it could not get any worse.
Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.
As far as I’m concerned, he worded “they” to mean and include me. And the simple facts of the matter are I have NOT been active, I have NOT logged on, and I DID NOT choose to dodge his PM.
Second, and more important, as far as I’m aware you aren’t even officially part of this GB... (snip)
I believe in helping out and picking up the slack whenever/wherever I can, and not asking for/expecting anything in return. That’s what friendship & community both mean to me. However, if the consensus here is that my updates are not helping, not useful, or not appreciated, I’d be more than willing to take a step back and let this thread take its course.
Hmmm. I wonder how you knew to preserve the evidence if you weren't active (my emphasis added above)... Care to explain?
That’s simple. Someone from my keyboard chat group informed me that you were falsely accusing me of being online but not responding. So I told them to grab a screenshot of my last active status (https://i.imgur.com/CQ8Jlmc.jpg) and forward it to me to for proof.
Grow up. You WANTED to be insulted, and then you acted like a child when you tried to FORCE him to apologize or else you will STEAL his money. Remember, this isn't some favor, he PAID for stabs, and didn't get them. IT IS NOT OK to threaten to not give something they paid for because you felt insulted. Especially when YOU are the one inferring that insult.I'll eat the damn $6 before I'll apologize to you
Great, eat it in quarters, let me know what it feels like coming out the other end.
Finally, if you ARE the contact person, and you are going on vacation, you should either designate someone else to do it OR simply let people know. This isn’t hard. Had you said a week ago “I will be handling all communication for this GB going forward. I am going on a cruise for the next week, but if you have any questions I’ll try and respond when I get back. I will be unreachable from x-y, so don’t expect a response before then. I should also have another update on around 12/28.”
No one woulda said ****. Ok, maybe PancakeMSTR would be mad, but it’s the holidays and people would get it. But that is NOT what you did.
Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?
But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes?
The replacement polycarb bottoms do indeed have to be remade.
Extras get manufactured together with replacements (mainly to fulfill the MOQ). This is a routine thing with most GBs.
Honestly I'll take radio silence over Cody doing the updates at this point
it's christmas can we please not flame this thread today
:)
I’m going into work tomorrow, so I’m going to do a little light reading before I retire after a busy Christmas. Ooooh, I wonder what’s up with the EXENT GB, maybe there’s an update on aluminum bottoms, maybe not.
;D
MaNiFeX reads two pages of comments.
:confused:
:eek:
Maybe I’ll check back later.
:rolleyes:
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.
Mine just arrived to my surprise By the looks of it no cracks or anything.
So uh, shipping updates?
I’ll try to post a meaningful update as soon as I get brought up to speed, but this will likely only happen next week as the GB leaders are currently off on holiday with their families.
Until then, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:
https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS
Quoting to remind myself to raise this issue the next time we meet. Ditto for @TheWuggening.
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.
Was yours shipped assembled or unassembled?
Mine just arrived to my surprise By the looks of it no cracks or anything.
If it was shipped assembled, make sure to remove the feet and check for cracks underneath.
That said, my foot bar did not come attached, and I did not receive any screws with which to attach it. I also do not have any spare rubber feet if I were to not use the bar. I'm not sure if this is normal, I got the basic kit and it does say it's just inclusive of housing, plate and PCB.
Can anyone tell me what kind of screws I need to attach that, and also should I be looking at plate mounted or pcb mounted stabilizers for this?
I did not receive any screws with which to attach it.Show Image(https://imgur.com/yMeukKj.jpg)
Can anyone tell me what kind of screws I need to attach that, and also should I be looking at plate mounted or pcb mounted stabilizers for this?
Received my dark gray Exent today. No cracks in the PC. Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway. All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign. I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.
Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for.
Received my dark gray Exent today. No cracks in the PC. Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway. All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign. I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.
Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for. So hoping there's more to come on that... But for the moment, counting my blessings. :-[
Yeah. Honestly, it's good. It's not as dark as those last few photos. There's definitely no mistaking it for black. I'm pretty happy with how it came out.Received my dark gray Exent today. No cracks in the PC. Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway. All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign. I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.
Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for. So hoping there's more to come on that... But for the moment, counting my blessings. :-[
How do you like the color on the grey? I have been anxious about their moving to a much darker looking grey being too close to black. Are you happy with the color/shade?
Yeah. Honestly, it's good. It's not as dark as those last few photos. There's definitely no mistaking it for black. I'm pretty happy with how it came out.
I don't know how everyone else feels but this stalkerish vibe being passed on is making me a little uncomfortable at this point and I'm not even remotely involved in it - I was one of the first ones to scold the GB runners for doing a poor job of communicating but lately it's getting harder and harder to side with the customer in general (even though I am one myself), I really hope I get my shipment sent out soon so I can just ignore the fact this abomination of a thread exists.
I mean no disrespect and I understand the frustration that has built up but digging people's online status and doing **** like this is more telling of one's personality than it is of the GB runners. Just my opinion. If we wanna continue roleplaying as the crazy girlfriend that followed you at night and took pictures of you paying the girl at the gas station and then demanded an explanation or that asked "who's Becky" in a degrading tone when you answer a work call then by all means do continue, I guess I'll have to eat it up until my stuff ships.
I really love the Exent and can't wait to get mine. I'm really sad to think the creative team behind this might not work on any future projects because of the ****ty experience they have had with backers on this thread. If you have aired a grievance then assume it's been seen, and if you didn't get a response, assume there is a reason, there isn't anything you can do about it at this point but wait.
Everyone has made their side abundantly clear on the situation and it clearly isn't making a difference, so maybe it's time to just wait and see what happens and stop filling this thread with more of the same tired crap.
Everyone agrees it sucks, saying it over and over again isn't a solution. Stalking the parties involved isn't going to help. And complaining repeatedly about the issue you have isn't going to fix it.
Vigrith I think it's pretty insulting that the leadership comes on to geekhack, browses around doing whatever they do, and then choose not to respond either in this thread or to PMs. They should absolutely be held accountable for that. I consider what they are doing a total offense to the community.
Oh boo ****ing hoo. No sympathy from me.
all the creative backers did their job. it's the GB runners who haven't.I really love the Exent and can't wait to get mine. I'm really sad to think the creative team behind this might not work on any future projects because of the ****ty experience they have had with backers on this thread. If you have aired a grievance then assume it's been seen, and if you didn't get a response, assume there is a reason, there isn't anything you can do about it at this point but wait.
Everyone has made their side abundantly clear on the situation and it clearly isn't making a difference, so maybe it's time to just wait and see what happens and stop filling this thread with more of the same tired crap.
Everyone agrees it sucks, saying it over and over again isn't a solution. Stalking the parties involved isn't going to help. And complaining repeatedly about the issue you have isn't going to fix it.
The ****ty experience they've had? Oh boo ****ing hoo. No sympathy from me.
Maybe they would've had a better experience if they could do their ****ing job.
If you didn't receive screws for the steel foot, check the outside of your shipping box.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/N9EvUyv.jpg)
Apparently some of our orders had the screws taped to the outside. Mine presumably escaped their plastic & tape prison in transit and someone actually bothered to come along afterward and put more tape over the (now) empty bag. That was awfully nice of them!
The list of crazy **** that happened in this GB just keeps growing at every turn. All I can do is laugh. :))
Full disclosure: The team has assured me in private that they will replace the missing screws. This is merely a public service announcement.
I bought the premium kit, still not get any tracking number, is this normal?
I bought the premium kit, still not get any tracking number, is this normal?
Yes
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Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...
I’ll try to post a meaningful update as soon as I get brought up to speed, but this will likely only happen next week as the GB leaders are currently off on holiday with their families.
Until then, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...
It is my understanding that the aluminum bottoms have been milled and are waiting for anodization. I ordered the aluminum bottom as well and I don't expect a tracking number for at least a few more weeks.
Have a Happy New Year all! Take a deep breath and relax a bit.
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...
It is my understanding that the aluminum bottoms have been milled and are waiting for anodization. I ordered the aluminum bottom as well and I don't expect a tracking number for at least a few more weeks.
Have a Happy New Year all! Take a deep breath and relax a bit.
I just think it's weird what people will deal with on geekhack
I just think it's weird what people will deal with on geekhack
Have you been reading this thread? This has become one of the most toxic GB threads I've seen because people are not dealing. Your sentiment is months behind the curve here.
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me upYeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I had a whole post written out and decided it was pointless, rude and antagonistic.
The truth is, they are doing something cool for us by making this board, and we are acting like petulant children because they aren't doing what we want when we want it. They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked. Would it be nice if there was better communication and no delays? Sure, of course it would. But that's not the case, so you either take you refund, or accept that there are going to be continued delays and ****ty communication. Because there are going to continue to be both, whether you think that's ok or not.
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.
this is correct. Paypal only has a 90 day window. i have no idea what dead pixel is talking about.They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.
It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
this is correct. Paypal only has a 90 day window. i have no idea what dead pixel is talking about.They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.
It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
my mistake 180 days. safe to say we're quite a bit beyond that.this is correct. Paypal only has a 90 day window. i have no idea what dead pixel is talking about.They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.
It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
180 day window
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I had a whole post written out and decided it was pointless, rude and antagonistic.
The truth is, they are doing something cool for us by making this board, and we are acting like petulant children because they aren't doing what we want when we want it. They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked. Would it be nice if there was better communication and no delays? Sure, of course it would. But that's not the case, so you either take you refund, or accept that there are going to be continued delays and ****ty communication. Because there are going to continue to be both, whether you think that's ok or not.
As others have said, this is nonsense. Been more than the 180 days to open a dispute so I have no idea where you're getting this unless you're now yet another person not involved with the GB making statements about the GB ala cody? I ended my post on a positive note and somehow you read between the lines I'm rage mode angry and want only a refund. Please re-read my post because I definitely said I only want one IF there's problems with my board, and that's a big if. I'm 99% all of the people in the group buy think the Exent is cool... that's why we're in it... but again, that doesn't mean you can ignore glaring issues. "pointless, rude, antagonistic"... next sentence, calls anyone criticizing a petulant child. Mhmm...
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up
Back in the thread somewhere one of the runners offered refunds to anyone that wants one. But I don't so I don't care enough to look for it
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.
you aresearched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.
I'm not.
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.
I'm not.
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks. How wrong do you have to be in order to have some self-awareness?
"no body cares"searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.
I'm not.
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks. How wrong do you have to be in order to have some self-awareness?
No body cares about your $6. I'm talking about refunds offered for people who have not received anything yet.
dead pixel has been licking the GB runners boots since at least August and offering absolutely nothing of value. i love his refutation of my claim that they've never offered a refund. it was essentially "nuh uh". the guy is definitely not intelligent.
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks.
ah the ol' strawman chestnut. your stupidity has nothing to do with the disagreement. you make baseless claims and refuse to support them with facts. where's the refund offer from the GB runners?dead pixel has been licking the GB runners boots since at least August and offering absolutely nothing of value. i love his refutation of my claim that they've never offered a refund. it was essentially "nuh uh". the guy is definitely not intelligent.
Ah yes.. The ol' "I don't agree with you so you must be stupid" chestnut. And I have been licking boots since the first concept picture, this board is gorgeous and I can't wait to get one.
ah the ol' strawman chestnut. your stupidity has nothing to do with the disagreement. you make baseless claims and refuse to support them with facts. where's the refund offer from the GB runners?
lol what a cop out. pathetic.Ah yes.. The ol' "I don't agree with you so you must be stupid" chestnut. And I have been licking boots since the first concept picture, this board is gorgeous and I can't wait to get one.ah the ol' strawman chestnut. your stupidity has nothing to do with the disagreement. you make baseless claims and refuse to support them with facts. where's the refund offer from the GB runners?
Not only do I not care enough to try and find it, I don't care enough to have any strong feelings about being right. I remember it, I think I'm right and I don't have to prove waste effort trying to prove it because it doesn't matter. At all. I'm not upset with the delays or lack of communication, I'm pretty content with this Group Buy.
lol what a cop out. pathetic.
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks.
PM your paypal and I will send you $6 if that is a priority to you.
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up
Back in the thread somewhere one of the runners offered refunds to anyone that wants one. But I don't so I don't care enough to look for it
Almost positive you are mixing up this GB with the m65a.
lol what a cop out. pathetic.
Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.
Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.
Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
the guy is dense. dead pixel the same guy back in august who was critical of everyone who complained about the lack of communication 4 months ago and look at this GB now. the amount arrogance he possesses is palpable.lol what a cop out. pathetic.
Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.
Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.
Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
Hey if you ordered a premium kit youd still be waiting for anything at all to happen. Just watching this thread makes me more and more nervous by the day as to what's finally going to ship out to me but seriously dude, take it to PMs at this point - I don't care if they aren't responding to you, they aren't responding to anyone and you're just clogging up the entire thread with your toxic ****.lol what a cop out. pathetic.
Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.
Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.
Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
Hey if you ordered a premium kit youd still be waiting for anything at all to happen. Just watching this thread makes me more and more nervous by the day as to what's finally going to ship out to me but seriously dude, take it to PMs at this point - I don't care if they aren't responding to you, they aren't responding to anyone and you're just clogging up the entire thread with your toxic ****.lol what a cop out. pathetic.
Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.
Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.
Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
the guy is dense. dead pixel the same guy back in august who was critical of everyone who complained about the lack of communication 4 months ago and look at this GB now. the amount arrogance he possesses is palpable.
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?the guy is dense. dead pixel the same guy back in august who was critical of everyone who complained about the lack of communication 4 months ago and look at this GB now. the amount arrogance he possesses is palpable.
Spare the thread your insults. At the very least keep the conversation on topic if you can't help yourself from being an insulting ****. My point is sound regardless, poly replacements likely need to be ordered from the manufacturer and it makes more sense to wait until they know how many they will need to order total
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?
lead by example and we'll do the same budis this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?
I still think I am right about the refunds. But you don't have to be insulting, simple as that. Regardless of whether you agree with my perspective or not, doesn't matter, I don't care, but I do believe that it's important that everyone makes an effort not to be a ****bag.
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.
I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.
Thank you and happy new year.
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.
I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.
Thank you and happy new year.
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.
I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.
Thank you and happy new year.
Are you able to lock the thread to all but OP?
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?
I still think I am right about the refunds. But you don't have to be insulting, simple as that. Regardless of whether you agree with my perspective or not, doesn't matter, I don't care, but I do believe that it's important that everyone makes an effort not to be a ****bag.
I don’t give 2 ****s about the delays, delays happen, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep updating. As soon as we left the 12-16 week window, a new one should have been established. If it was gonna be missed, then there should have been a new update and a new window.
Could anyone with a PCB check if holtites work with it?
I'm not sure about holtites too but I was thinking of using them on the bottom row and stabilized keys until I'm %100 sure with the layout and stabilizers. I really suck at desoldering.Could anyone with a PCB check if holtites work with it?
I remember asking this back when and I'm fairly certain the answer was yes - probably best get confirmation from someone who's already gotten their board and/or the GB runners, however. I'm not 100% sure any more, was such a long time again and I gave up on my idea to hotlite it months ago.
I'm not familiar with hotlites, they are what allow switches to be hotswappable right? What defines whether or not they can be used?
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.Thanks Juahenza and happy New Year to you too. Please post some pics if you can when you get them as we only have a vague idea of how Aluminum bottoms look.
Thank you and happy new year.
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.
Thank you and happy new year.
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.
Thank you and happy new year.
Any pictures of the GMK set for premium? Just curious how it looks :)
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.
Thank you and happy new year.
Hey there,
Can anyone who have received his/her exent tell me if there was any type of bill or receipt attached to the outside of the box?
Customs is holding mine and asking me to declare it and I have the option to do it as a gift, but if they have a receipt I will have to declare it as a commercial buy and pay higher taxes.
So please, can someone let me know?
Thanks!
Hey there,
Can anyone who have received his/her exent tell me if there was any type of bill or receipt attached to the outside of the box?
Customs is holding mine and asking me to declare it and I have the option to do it as a gift, but if they have a receipt I will have to declare it as a commercial buy and pay higher taxes.
So please, can someone let me know?
Thanks!
The way this usually works is that you print out the PayPal Receipt of Payment and send/give that to customs.
It always worked for me.
Depending on where you are you will probably have to pay vat and/or customs on the board.
Good luck
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Hey there, thanks for your response. You are correct, that'd be the usual procedure, but I have the option to declare it as a gift and (presumably) pay less taxes or even none but I need to know if they have a receipt, because if they do, I cannot realistically declare it as a gift and expect no problems. Otherwise, if they don't have any receipts I can declare it as a gift from a lower value and as I said pay less or nothing at all.
So te question still is, is there any receipt or bill taped outside of the box for customs to see?
11. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80? Can you mark the parcel as gift?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. All parcel will be marked as gift.
I just noticed that Post #3 was updated on Jan. 2nd. Premium kits are currently being worked on; nice :thumb: . I wonder if that's Premium + addons or just Premium alone.
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can actually track my package, have the number just dont know who it was shipped through.
Hey there, thanks for your response. You are correct, that'd be the usual procedure, but I have the option to declare it as a gift and (presumably) pay less taxes or even none but I need to know if they have a receipt, because if they do, I cannot realistically declare it as a gift and expect no problems. Otherwise, if they don't have any receipts I can declare it as a gift from a lower value and as I said pay less or nothing at all.
So te question still is, is there any receipt or bill taped outside of the box for customs to see?
Please do not take my statement as fact BUT as someone from Europe, I duly checked how shipping was going to be handled prior to purchasing a slot and I am almost 100% certain there was a tick box for International customers that allowed us to request that the GB runners under declare the value of the package (I believe down to something like $150, maybe?) and mark it as a gift.
I would assume this would obviously mean there's no notice of the price paid anywhere, especially on the outside of the box. That said, and again, please do not take this as fact because not only was this a thousand months ago before the GB ended but it's also not something I've followed up on since. I've also not seen it mentioned anywhere within the thread since then, so... Yeah. Grain of salt et al, probably best to wait for official response if nothing else.
11. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80? Can you mark the parcel as gift?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. All parcel will be marked as gift.
From the FAQ on the first page ;D
Is there anyone who did not get a tracking number yet?
Is there anyone who did not get a tracking number yet?
Has anyone gotten backlight working? Does this support it? it has leds and I tried putting some in to see if it works... not sure if i need to activate it via key press or what not.
Edit: got it working with bootmapper, anyone have the matrix layout or a way to put qmk onto it
I took over someone else's place in this buy. When I didn't receive a tracking number I contacted them and they told me that they sent the keyboard to the other guy and that they should try to fix it. Now they wont answer my PM's.
Has anyone gotten backlight working? Does this support it? it has leds and I tried putting some in to see if it works... not sure if i need to activate it via key press or what not.
Edit: got it working with bootmapper, anyone have the matrix layout or a way to put qmk onto it
There's a port of QMK to PS2avrGB PCBs here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). I have no idea how well it works or how many changes need to be made to support the Exent, but I'll try it out when mine arrives.
QMK is cool when it works, but it's kicked my -ss so many times I'm almost tired of it. I need to desolder one of my boards and use an ISP programmer to reflash the bootloader because something randomly got corrupted.
Which board? A TADA68 or one of the BootMapper boards?
A 32u4 based board should be immune to bootloader problems, except for the TADA68 because of the terrible decision to use the Mass Storage bootloader. It's 6kb, and the max protected bootloader size is 4kb, so part hangs over into program space.
Which board? A TADA68 or one of the BootMapper boards?
A 32u4 based board should be immune to bootloader problems, except for the TADA68 because of the terrible decision to use the Mass Storage bootloader. It's 6kb, and the max protected bootloader size is 4kb, so part hangs over into program space.
A UK78, which uses an at90usb1286. Every time I try to flash a new hex the memory is supposedly cleared successfully, but when it checks it's never actually clear. I've been able to flash a hex but the board randomly disconnects from my PC.
Tried the force erase?
Dfu-programmer at90usb1286 erase -f
I bought someone else's spot, how do I track?
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping
Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?
Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?
Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?
Juahenza was supposed to update us on the status of the aluminum bottoms themselves on January 3rd or 4th, but he hasn't posted anything. I'm guessing things are being worked on behind the scenes and nobody is providing updates. Hopefully we'll get some news soon.
As far as I know, the anodizing is still in progress for both black and silver. But it's close to completion.Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?
Juahenza was supposed to update us on the status of the aluminum bottoms themselves on January 3rd or 4th, but he hasn't posted anything. I'm guessing things are being worked on behind the scenes and nobody is providing updates. Hopefully we'll get some news soon.
Right on cue with another delay.We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.
By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.
Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)
Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
Right on cue with another delay.We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.
By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.
Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)
Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
I'm not familiar with hotlites, they are what allow switches to be hotswappable right? What defines whether or not they can be used?
the size and shape of the holes in the PCB, usually
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Thank you guys! :thumb:
Right on cue with another delay.We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.
By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.
Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)
Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
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Thank you guys! :thumb:
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Thank you guys! :thumb:
What caps are these?
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Thank you guys! :thumb:
What caps are these?
https://originative.co/products/originative-cyrillic
What's the status of the premium kits? Are they all shipped, a few shipped...? I haven't seen a tracking number.
Sorry, waybill (080019452301) information not found, please check waybill number or contact SF costomer service at 1 855 901 1133.
Mine did that too, until it was actually in the shipper's possession. You may have a waybill number but that doesn't mean much. Good chance the GB crew hasn't turned it over to the shipper yet.
so everyone got invoice?? as I know, all basic kit was already shipped..no
I have no invoice number in paypal yet.
yuktsi. please check the meassage box(about shipping address) and also check my invoice plz.
so everyone got invoice?? as I know, all basic kit was already shipped..no
I have no invoice number in paypal yet.
yuktsi. please check the meassage box(about shipping address) and also check my invoice plz.
I don't think any prem kits have shipped
I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB. The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.
I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB. The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.
I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB. The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.
I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795
Hey look at that :thumb:
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB. The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.
I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795
Hey look at that :thumb:
Just in case you didn't know, cody is not actually one of the GB runners, he's just helping them. As far as I'm aware, none of the GB runners themselves have really commented on the issue. Don't get me wrong, cody has been helpful in keeping people informed, but let's not act like that's a suitable replacement for actual direct communication from one of the people actually responsible for the GB.
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.
I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.
Thank you and happy new year.
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.
I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.
Thank you and happy new year.
Can we get this locked already? Does this forum not have the ability to make posts that only a single user can post to? Would be nice if juahenza was the only user who could post.
Any news on the bottoms? I didn't see any posted on the main page. Thank guys! :thumb:
Any news on the bottoms? I didn't see any posted on the main page. Thank guys! :thumb:
I finally received an answer regarding my remaing shipping for the EXENT from Juahenza earlier today and it told me it would invoice me when before shipping, and add a « Which should be soon » ! So since I have an alu bottom, I think it should be soon :D !
Any news on the bottoms? I didn't see any posted on the main page. Thank guys! :thumb:
I finally received an answer regarding my remaing shipping for the EXENT from Juahenza earlier today and it told me it would invoice me when before shipping, and add a « Which should be soon » ! So since I have an alu bottom, I think it should be soon :D !
Received an answer from him too. He said he should have an update on the bottom this week.
SnipFinally something positive, thanks for the review. With feets coming unscrewed and PCB's fixed, only issues left will be missing stabs, loose PCB in the box and replacement bottoms. Let's hope GB runners will take a look. The top piece looks amazing as always.
Finally something positive, thanks for the review. With feets coming unscrewed and PCB's fixed, only issues left will be missing stabs, loose PCB in the box and replacement bottoms. Let's hope GB runners will take a look. The top piece looks amazing as always.
Thanks for the appreciation. I wanted to give some light, confirm some issues and show everyone what they will be getting as best as I could, while giving an overall positive message. Although the runners do have a lot of things to improve.
Thanks for the review Marvellion! :thumb:
I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked? My main concern is having to reflow SMD components. That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.
Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.
Thanks All!
Thanks for the review Marvellion! :thumb:
I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked? My main concern is having to reflow SMD components. That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.
Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.
Thanks All!
Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).
Im not sure if you checked already but just would like to share cause it happened to me that they default to 12 leds only. You need to change to 24 leds in the bootmapper to light all the smd. Lets just hope that would fix your issue about the bottom smd.
The PCB was not fully working
As we all know now, not all the PCB's will arrive fully working and will need to have a bit of work done on them.
Knowing that, I plugged mine in and opened up bootmapper client to try the LED's.
You can see the result below.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bD4U4hN.jpg)
I'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.
I'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.
Kind of hard to find keycap match though. Seems the blue is the same blue with M65-A. Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
GMK AeroI'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.
Kind of hard to find keycap match though. Seems the blue is the same blue with M65-A. Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.
Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
Thanks for the appreciation. I wanted to give some light, confirm some issues and show everyone what they will be getting as best as I could, while giving an overall positive message. Although the runners do have a lot of things to improve.
I also want to extend my gratitude for the review - the biggest take away for me however has to be the fact you didn't get taxed; I'm glad the gift declaration worked for you and I'm hoping it works for me too, our customs tend to not be the most observant people out there. Going to save me a lot of money and most of all, a lot of trouble and headaches.
Beautiful board, too, the finish really is delightful.
Im not sure if you checked already but just would like to share cause it happened to me that they default to 12 leds only. You need to change to 24 leds in the bootmapper to light all the smd. Lets just hope that would fix your issue about the bottom smd.
The PCB was not fully working
As we all know now, not all the PCB's will arrive fully working and will need to have a bit of work done on them.
Knowing that, I plugged mine in and opened up bootmapper client to try the LED's.
You can see the result below.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bD4U4hN.jpg)
Obviously there needed to be some washers or a metal support strap on the other side of the polycarb to distribute stress across a wider surface area. That foot is heavy and it's held to the keyboard by 5 screws. Design flaw.
Goddamn that is some cracking.
You are very much welcome :thumb:Thanks for the review Marvellion! :thumb:
I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked? My main concern is having to reflow SMD components. That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.
Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.
Thanks All!
Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).
Whoops. Was on mobile! Thanks d.caminero!!! :thumb:
Thanks for the review Marvellion! :thumb:
I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked? My main concern is having to reflow SMD components. That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.
Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.
Thanks All!
Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).
Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
Put Nautilus keycaps on your Exent!!! :thumb:
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.
They hold stuff for 18 days mate, 21 if there is a customs fee to pay. Had the same worry when I went on holiday last year :thumb:
So what does it look like when you get the updated notification for shipping? Mine was one of the premium kits, so I guess it should be moving soooonish?
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.
They hold stuff for 18 days mate, 21 if there is a customs fee to pay. Had the same worry when I went on holiday last year :thumb:
You mean last year when these kits were initially scheduled to ship out? :(
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database. Does anyone have any suggestions for this?
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database. Does anyone have any suggestions for this?
Have alu bottom orders started shipping? I recall there was a post about them being picked up a few weeks back.
Have alu bottom orders started shipping? I recall there was a post about them being picked up a few weeks back.
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database. Does anyone have any suggestions for this?
Is the code the right length/format?
Best you could hope for is 1) random delivery, or 2) juahenza caring.
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database. Does anyone have any suggestions for this?
Is the code the right length/format?
Best you could hope for is 1) random delivery, or 2) juahenza caring.
Yeah its the right length. It always says the same thing though. Just dont want to miss it being stuck somewhere because of something I need to do
I apologise for asking such a trivial question, but where can we check our orders again? Don't think I ever got a shipping notification for mine.
Right on cue with another delay.We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.
By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.
Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)
Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
It's been a week and a half; any updates for us? And how are the premium kits coming along? Haven't heard any news about them in a while.
Hey, any information on firmware? Sorry but I haven't really been able to find any guides or anything, except for this: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 Is that a good guide to follow? Wasn't sure since it doesn't say anything about the EXENT.
Hey, any information on firmware? Sorry but I haven't really been able to find any guides or anything, except for this: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 Is that a good guide to follow? Wasn't sure since it doesn't say anything about the EXENT.
Aside from that all I've seen is this: https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper)
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!
You might have better luck PM'ing Yuktsi. I don't think Juahenza checks geekhack very often.
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!
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Update would be really nice.. I also realized, we never saw the alu bottom I think? Even before anodizing or anything. This would be very very very nice to have some pic of the progress made on thoses alu bottom !
Thanks
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.
If my tracking number worked, or someone could tell me when it'll actually work so I stop checking it all the time that'd be great.
Got my "tracking" number December 29thIf my tracking number worked, or someone could tell me when it'll actually work so I stop checking it all the time that'd be great.
Mine took about 2 weeks before it appeared on the sf
Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
Put Nautilus keycaps on your Exent!!! :thumb:
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.
Yeah honestly I'd probably buy one. I sorta regret the polycarbonate.
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.
Yeah honestly I'd probably buy one. I sorta regret the polycarbonate.
Once you get it replaced will you like it? I mean, if it weren't damaged would you like it more than the alu?
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Oh man. It's true.
On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .
Looks good!
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Oh man. It's true.
On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .
Looks good!
Damn. This exent look so sick... I want mine so badly, I hope it alu bottom ship sooooooon!
That's the thing is I think I'd prefer aluminum over polycarbonate, damaged or not. I'd like to see what options the GB leadership would be willing to make available, but I'd be able to live with just the polycarb being replaced so I can finally forget about this disaster of a GB.
Can't wait to get mine! :cool: Has anyone else with Grey Premium received tracking yet? I haven't and was just wondering.
Is it a year already. Btw, all units that went out after the first 20+ units won’t have issues with pcb or bottom case.Happy 1 Year Anniversary everyone!Show Image(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5d/24/af/5d24af11327ed31ad903365801f9f601--garden-birthday-bat-man.jpg)
Oh man. It's true.
On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .
Looks good!
I finally got mine in today! & I cautiously opened the box hoping for a non-cracked poly-carb. Thankfully mine was immaculate. Everything was shipped sandwiched together, but not screwed, except the plate. Package foam was very tight though, which is great to see.congrats! looks amazing. can't wait till i get my replacement bottom. just want it to be built already.
My only issue was the PCB; last 4 LEDs weren't working, & figured it was the 'reflow' issue. I'm no soldering expert, but I was able to do it after a few attempts and actually felt a little click of the pin reflowing when I finally got it. Beginners shouldn't be worried.
now I'm just waiting to get stabilizers, (I guess I didn't order any?)
*edit: I got the brass plate. It's a matte powder finish, not mirror - in case anyone was wondering. Anodizing on both is rather gorgeous.
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Is it a year already. Btw, all units that went out after the first 20+ units won’t have issues with pcb or bottom case.
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Is it a year already. Btw, all units that went out after the first 20+ units won’t have issues with pcb or bottom case.
I finally got mine in today! & I cautiously opened the box hoping for a non-cracked poly-carb. Thankfully mine was immaculate. Everything was shipped sandwiched together, but not screwed, except the plate. Package foam was very tight though, which is great to see.
My only issue was the PCB; last 4 LEDs weren't working, & figured it was the 'reflow' issue. I'm no soldering expert, but I was able to do it after a few attempts and actually felt a little click of the pin reflowing when I finally got it. Beginners shouldn't be worried.
now I'm just waiting to get stabilizers, (I guess I didn't order any?)
*edit: I got the brass plate. It's a matte powder finish, not mirror - in case anyone was wondering. Anodizing on both is rather gorgeous.
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
black bottom looks so beautiful. I want to marry with exent black bottom!!Can you send me another PM? Thanks
yuktsi. please check my pm. I'm worried that you will ship my exent to wrong address..
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?
They're already made. Sherry posted a picture on his instagram a few months ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/For some reason at the time I thought it was a "sample set" for the GB runners to approve. Didn't realize they already produced all the caps. Thanks again!
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Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
We are just protecting the interest of our partner. I’m not sure what Sherry told you, we are still waiting for the shipment from him.Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
We are just protecting the interest of our partner. I’m not sure what Sherry told you, we are still waiting for the shipment from him.Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
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Hello Terry,
It's definitely hard for me to contact the partners since we work on different schedules (them being in SEA). Nonetheless we did get recent updates, the sets are ready to ship. They are also expecting me to send them the GMK sets so they can ship the premium kits within Asia. I don't have any guaranteed dates yet though.
Here's what he said, 3 months ago...Hello Terry,
It's definitely hard for me to contact the partners since we work on different schedules (them being in SEA). Nonetheless we did get recent updates, the sets are ready to ship. They are also expecting me to send them the GMK sets so they can ship the premium kits within Asia. I don't have any guaranteed dates yet though.
GMK has had GBs fulfill faster than this.
That what we were told, that's why we've been saying that we gonna ship the premium kit since 2-3 months ago. Then again Sherry is part of us. I don't know what to say.Here's what he said, 3 months ago...Hello Terry,
It's definitely hard for me to contact the partners since we work on different schedules (them being in SEA). Nonetheless we did get recent updates, the sets are ready to ship. They are also expecting me to send them the GMK sets so they can ship the premium kits within Asia. I don't have any guaranteed dates yet though.
GMK has had GBs fulfill faster than this.
Not to play devil's advocate again as I don't actually feel it is warranted this time around, however is there any chance something got lost in translation along the way and he interpreted the "you" as being collective rather than singular? As in maybe he felt Sherry having them on hand after manufacturing and shipping from GMK was through was inclusive of their team of responsible people rather than having them on site. Likely grasping at straws but still feel like he/they wouldn't lie about something that can so easily be contradicted by others involved. Maybe I give people too much credit, wouldn't be the first time, probably won't be the last.
That said, what I don't really understand is why Sherry didn't just ship them over 3 months ago when he received them - I assume everyone knew they'd need them so they could actually ship stuff to their customers, unless there were/are problems with transactions (eg. Sherry not having been paid for shipping yet or something) I find it odd that nothing has happened for several months when shipping stuff is literally what they do on a daily basis. Again, just conjecture but it all seems very odd.
Either way, sad to see such small things get in the way in such a meaningful manner; be nice to get all this wrapped up now that the aluminium bottoms are finally culminating.
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
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We are just protecting the interest of our partner. I’m not sure what Sherry told you, we are still waiting for the shipment from him.Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?Yeah. :cool:
Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
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edit: It's not nice to just call someone a liar without knowing the full story. Juahenza and I do not owe Sherry any payment for the premium kit to be shipped over. No pointing fingers, we are working on the issues.
So now they're waiting on keysets that were manufactured months ago and no one ever bothered to send them to the people who needed them? It's just one pathetic excuse after another isn't it? Impossible to trust anything anyone says at this point.
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
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Uggh, i'm salivating. Those look like thicc, hefty chunks of aluminium. Looking forward to seeing if they're hefty enough to use as bludgeoning instruments.
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are? I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs. It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
So is there an estimate on when the keysets will arrive? we've been through been so much **** throughout this whole group buy good lord more delays.
At this point I'm expecting the cracked poly bottoms to be replaced sometime in Q3 of this year.So is there an estimate on when the keysets will arrive? we've been through been so much **** throughout this whole group buy good lord more delays.
Oh there will definitely be more delays to come.. ;D
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are? I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs. It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are? I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs. It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are? I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs. It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
I really wish I could just cut the GMK caps from my premium order and receive my board. I don't care about the caps, honestly, and if I had known it would add a year to the shipping time I wouldn't have ordered them. Is it possible to just ship my kit without them so I can be done already?
Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.
I really wish I could just cut the GMK caps from my premium order and receive my board. I don't care about the caps, honestly, and if I had known it would add a year to the shipping time I wouldn't have ordered them. Is it possible to just ship my kit without them so I can be done already?
I didn't get them and my order hasn't shipped either. I just replace the word "week" with the word "month" in this thread and my expectations are about on point. :thumb:
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Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are? I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs. It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5EOIWW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are? I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs. It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.
I don't think lying was the intention; I think it was just poorly worded/formatted. Something more along the lines of "premium kits are currently being packaged". I've seen some of his other comments worded a bit weird/poorly.
I could be wrong though; that's just how I perceive it. Once again, more communication would clear things up. I think it's sad that this delay probably could have easily been avoided, but eh. We've been through so much that I'm just emotionally tired out on this project. No excitement, no anger, just nothing. I hope that once I get my board I won't be a constant reminder of the less-than-smooth experience we've had. I'm scared of that.
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So aluminium bottom basic orders will ship tomorrow?
Yeah. I’ve so many customs but the anodizing of the exent is the best that I’ve ever seen.Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.
I don't think lying was the intention; I think it was just poorly worded/formatted. Something more along the lines of "premium kits are currently being packaged". I've seen some of his other comments worded a bit weird/poorly.
I could be wrong though; that's just how I perceive it. Once again, more communication would clear things up. I think it's sad that this delay probably could have easily been avoided, but eh. We've been through so much that I'm just emotionally tired out on this project. No excitement, no anger, just nothing. I hope that once I get my board I won't be a constant reminder of the less-than-smooth experience we've had. I'm scared of that.
I saw one in person at the PDXKBC meetup and my excitement came right back! It's a solid hunk of aluminum and the anodization is spectacular.
Hi, I haven't been following the GB super closely since joining and the order I placed for a basic kit(PCB, Case, plate, and polycarbonate bottom plate) arrived with the PCB and bottom plate missing.
Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?
Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?
You'll want to PM Juahenza and/or Yuktsi. I haven't seen Juahenza around here much lately so I would try Yuktsi first. PM seems to be hit or miss though, so be prepared to send more than one.
Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?You'll want to PM Juahenza and/or Yuktsi. I haven't seen Juahenza around here much lately so I would try Yuktsi first. PM seems to be hit or miss though, so be prepared to send more than one.
I wouldn't send more than one, that just makes it harder for them to go through them and overall causes more problems and more delays than there already are. If they aren't going to respond to one message they aren't going to respond to 6.
if you don't hear back in a week it's probably safe to assume your message was read
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.
Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?
UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.
Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?
UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.
I wouldn't risk causing further damage, wait until the GB period has ended and try to get it replaced.
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.
Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?
UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.
I wouldn't risk causing further damage, wait until the GB period has ended and try to get it replaced.
I appreciate your comment, but I'm not in the mood to wait months just to get an answer with problems because technically I screwed it up. Shipping my PCB to them will be expensive, and I doubt they will ship a replacement to me, since it would open the door to lots of replacements of other faulty PCB's we know are out there.
If I can get an LED of the same kind I will try to solder it and fix the problem myself, as we are supposed to do in this GB.
I appreciate your comment, but I'm not in the mood to wait months just to get an answer with problems because technically I screwed it up. Shipping my PCB to them will be expensive, and I doubt they will ship a replacement to me, since it would open the door to lots of replacements of other faulty PCB's we know are out there.
If I can get an LED of the same kind I will try to solder it and fix the problem myself, as we are supposed to do in this GB.
My concern would be screwing it up, or damaging something else that makes the keyboard itself not work, and then seeing other people just get free replacements without having to go through any of the repair process themselves, without risking screwing anything up, and without a problem they get a working PCB that just plugs in and works and they are happy and I am miserable.
Regardless I hope you can get it working and not have any issues with it, I would love to see it once you get it up and running
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
yuktsi - do you know, for those of us that ordered switches as well, is this part of the premium kit you are waiting on? I ordered MOD-M switches for an addt'l $40 at the time of the GB.
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).
Thanks !
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).
Thanks !
So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).
Thanks !
So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.
What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).
Thanks !
So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.
yuktsi - do you know, for those of us that ordered switches as well, is this part of the premium kit you are waiting on? I ordered MOD-M switches for an addt'l $40 at the time of the GB.
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.
You might have missed it, but Vigrith asked about details of the GMK set and what kind of timetable you guys are looking at for getting Premium kits out. I would like to know this too. The details provided have been very vague, so an explanation of what went wrong and what is happening to get back on track would be very much appreciated.
I know Juahenza might be tired of this project, but I think an update on the current state of everything would do use all some good. The "update comment" on the first page hasn't been updated in a month, and as mentioned earlier we are all quite in the dark about what's going on with premium kits, other than "there's some issues and they're being worked on".
By now you'd think that the group buy runners would have learned that people will grant then more leeway if they simply provide any kind of basic ongoing updates. Also this thread would become less cluttered, people would stop bugging them, and the general attitude would be much more positive.
Any word on the aluminum bottom anodization? That's the only part I'm waiting on for my order.
Any word on the aluminum bottom anodization? That's the only part I'm waiting on for my order.
I've been following this thread fairly closely, but I could have missed something. My understanding is that the aluminum bottoms have come back from anodization and is starting to ship. ;D
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.
No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.
No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.
No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.
Nah, even if I get a messed up board, a board that is so messed up that it doesn't even work when I plug it into my computer, and I can't set it down because the poly bottom is shattered and there isn't enough base to attach to the top, and the second board I also got is in the same shape (Yeah, twice the investment of most of the people crying over a couple cracks, and still patient, happy and excited) I still get it, **** happens, and I will send the busted parts back and continue to wait, patiently, for the replacements, and still be just as in awe of how gorgeous it is, and just as stoked to get it and twice that once I have it all put together.
It sucks people are having problems, I'm not saying it doesn't, but there isn't **** all we can do but wait. Would it be nice if we had more information? Sure. But there isn't. Would it be nice if there weren't defects? Of course, but there are. Complaining, whining, and getting ****ty at people trying to be supportive and positive isn't changing ****. Grow a ****ing modicum of acceptance for things that are 100% out of your control and exercise some patience.
edit: grammar
but here we are wondering where the GB runners are *crickets*. Takes how long to make a post?
By now you'd think that the group buy runners would have learned that people will grant then more leeway if they simply provide any kind of basic ongoing updates. Also this thread would become less cluttered, people would stop bugging them, and the general attitude would be much more positive.
He wouldn't know, maybe not even care, since he's been out for a month at this point. Glad yuktsi is giving us updates, if not we'd be blind for another month.
Well at least this whole thread is a lesson on how not to be a group buy runner lol
We've also learned which GB runner(s) to avoid in the future.
sigh...We've also learned which GB runner(s) to avoid in the future.
Even if these guys run another group buy that plays out exactly like this one, as long as a get a board as sweet as the Exent at the end of it I will definitely come back.
sigh...
if you're the only backer for the next run cause everyone else is unhappy with how this run went then there is no funding which means no end product.sigh...
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
if you're the only backer for the next run cause everyone else is unhappy with how this run went then there is no funding which means no end product.sigh...
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
sigh...
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
It absolutely is not. That makes no sense whatsoever, you're basically stating customer support is irrelevant and no service/product providers should care to properly handle their dealings, you're saying deadlines are moot so long as the end product is up to snuff and you're saying total disregard for the process in general is acceptable and to be expected.
All of the above is the polar opposite of the truth. You keep trying to inject some excitement and positivity into what has been a rather unpleasant experience for everyone involved (whether they care for it or not) in more ways than one and absolving the responsible folk of any guilt or omission when that's not what they need nor what will earn you their, or anyone else's, respect. They know they've ****ed up, just as everyone inevitably does in life, your words for a while now are not helping anyone, in fact they are damaging to the ones targeted by the scrutiny of the unsatisfied customers. I have been nothing but fair to them, I have also not felt the need to shroud their obvious disregard and my wish that they (and everyone else that takes it upon themselves to run a GB) do better in the future.
Not only are you (in)advertently doing the above mentioned, you are also passing off ill behaviour as acceptable and potentially altering the course/handling of future group buys. Mind your words, you're on an internet forum but if everyone acted the way you do buys like this would be the norm - and they unfortunately are not short in number, at least not of late. There is a crucial part of all GBs that is strictly business so please don't respond with some kumbaya philosophy about the caveat emptor and how everyone should go into a group buy expecting nothing.
Find better ways to voice your optimism that don't completely discredit your opinion(s) and influence others in less than desirable ways.
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
sigh...
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
sigh...
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
I think at this point you've said many things to the same effect many many many times now. It probably isn't worth repeating yourself anymore.
so braveI think at this point you've said many things to the same effect many many many times now. It probably isn't worth repeating yourself anymore.
So just like the people complaining and whining who are continuing to repeat themselves..?
I don't worry about the worth of repeating myself, don't worry that I will.
so brave
so brave
Our names will be written on the stones of Hliðskjálf in the halls of Valhalla
Our names will be written on the stones of Hliðskjálf in the halls of Valhalla
MOD Edit: Chill
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
Quick question, and I apologise if this is crass of me to ask but I don't really know how things work over there - would CNY/Lunar Fest affect the potential shipping of the premium kits over the next couple weeks?
Not sure about the other countries, but we have holidays only on the 16th and 17th.Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
Quick question, and I apologise if this is crass of me to ask but I don't really know how things work over there - would CNY/Lunar Fest affect the potential shipping of the premium kits over the next couple weeks?
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.
How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.
How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?
Toggle bootmapper will make it so when you hit a key on the keyboard, it is selected in Bootmapper Client so you can map it. Is that not working?
I'm in Hanoi to see some family for CNY, basically ****'s get all backed up and everything grinds to a halt for most of next week, nothing's gonna get done because everyone just wants to scrape by and spend more time with their families, and same usually goes for a lot of SEA countries that celebrate new years. Most things should start moving again around the 5th of Jan (Feb 20th or so).
Not sure about the other countries, but we have holidays only on the 16th and 17th.
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.
How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?
Toggle bootmapper will make it so when you hit a key on the keyboard, it is selected in Bootmapper Client so you can map it. Is that not working?
Ah okay, thank you, I see how it's supposed to work.
Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?
I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
I do not.
Can you try use tweezers on the switches that don't work? If you haven't soldered them, they might not have a good enough connection.
Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?
I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
I do not.
Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.
Can you try use tweezers on the switches that don't work? If you haven't soldered them, they might not have a good enough connection.
Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?
I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
I do not.
Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.
It doesn't seem fair that I should have to troubleshoot this myself given that it arrived this way. PCBs should arrive in working condition.
Review some previous pages ITT. I assure you that you are preaching to the choir on this issue.
That said if you get tired of waiting, it's probably fixable. Get a multimeter or find someone in your country you can ship the PCB to for repair.
I do not.
Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.
It doesn't seem fair that I should have to troubleshoot this myself given that it arrived this way. PCBs should arrive in working condition.Can you try use tweezers on the switches that don't work? If you haven't soldered them, they might not have a good enough connection.
Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?
I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
This is what I am saying, there are several points on the board that do not give a signal when bridged with tweezers.
Anyone know off the top of their head other PCBs that might fight the Exent.
Obviously not ideal to buy a whole separate piece when this should just work as expected in the first place, but might ease some minds for people that don't want to fuss with home repairs and don't want to wait on replacement announcements.
Anyone know off the top of their head other PCBs that might fight the Exent.
Obviously not ideal to buy a whole separate piece when this should just work as expected in the first place, but might ease some minds for people that don't want to fuss with home repairs and don't want to wait on replacement announcements.
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
I haven't received any tracking number yet
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.
Any help would be very greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
This worked for me.
I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
I haven't seen a tutorial or preferred way of programming the EXENT on the front page/original post. Is there a 'correct' way to program this? I remember someone recommended a way at one point, but there's a lot of pages to dig through. It would be helpful to have the information posted on the front page. Thanks!!!
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
I haven't received any tracking number yet
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?
I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
I haven't seen a tutorial or preferred way of programming the EXENT on the front page/original post. Is there a 'correct' way to program this? I remember someone recommended a way at one point, but there's a lot of pages to dig through. It would be helpful to have the information posted on the front page. Thanks!!!
That link by catweewee is the closest thing to a tutorial or correct way that we have I believe. That's all that I've seen anyway.
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?
Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?
Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.
literally everything is made, just has to ship to you
not saying that'll happen overnight
but it will probably happen
I get what you're saying, but those keycaps have been sitting in the US since ~November when they were supposed to be in SEA and neither side is stating why.
Hello ...,
We're currently awaiting the EXENT sets right now to ship to our customers. We have sent the payment, but we haven't received anything product-wise yet for our customers.
As soon as we receive the EXENT keyboards, we'll be sending an invoice to group buy participants, and then we'll be shipping out the keyboards.
Kind Regards,
Sheraton
Well that’s bloody confusing.
Especially considering this: https://instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/
Genuinely can’t work out who Sherry is referring to (such as who “we” is, who the customers are). Also sounds like theyre proxying something, which doesn’t add up, as noted above.
literally everything is made, just has to ship to you
not saying that'll happen overnight
but it will probably happen
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?
Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.
literally everything is made, just has to ship to you
not saying that'll happen overnight
but it will probably happen
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.
I have a black exent with small cracks in the polycarbonate bottom and a PCB with one LED working. I wouldn’t mind selling. Anyone interested?
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So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
At the same time, I'm sure some people just want to get out of the GB and recoup what they can.
That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.
Similar vibes to jchan refunding people that bought the M65-A at retail for $250, then sold the extras/refunded cases later for $430 upwards.
I have a black exent with small cracks in the polycarbonate bottom and a PCB with one LED working. I wouldn’t mind selling. Anyone interested?
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So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
- Basic Aluminum Kit Shipping Progress
- Premium Kit Timeline Information
- Replacement Poly Bottom Plan and Timeline
- Faulty PCB Replacement Plan and Timeline
- Firmware and Programming Guide/Software
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
Hm, I'm glad I have a week to think about it. Very tempting to request a refund if that goes through. I'd hate to give up this far into the group buy but due to the lack of info on the Premium kits for the last month and a half I'm getting a little tired of being in the dark with nothing but fading hope and faith that things will work out. I've also been needing a numpad more lately for work and my hobbies, so I'm not sure how much I would use a keyboard that didn't have one.
- Basic Aluminum Kit Shipping Progress
- Premium Kit Timeline Information
- Replacement Poly Bottom Plan and Timeline
- Faulty PCB Replacement Plan and Timeline
- Firmware and Programming Guide/Software
Might want to add missing stabilizers to the list. Probably not as important as the first four things on your list, but it sucks having to spend an extra $5-$10 rebuying something.
It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)
I received a pm of yuktsi containing this:
« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »
So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?
This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)
Me too, basic with aluminum and no trackingI received a pm of yuktsi containing this:
« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »
So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?
This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)
Also a basic kit with aluminum bottom. No tracking, yet.
Me too, basic with aluminum and no trackingI received a pm of yuktsi containing this:
« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »
So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?
This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)
Also a basic kit with aluminum bottom. No tracking, yet.
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GMK keyboards and switches I _don't want_. This is such awful nonsense.Tell me about it, I only got the premium kit as it seemed great value to get the switches and figured I'd just sell the keycaps. Wish I hadn't bothered now!
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping
Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping
Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.
No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping
Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.
No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.
Has it really been 6 weeks? :eek:
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.
I'm jealous, and kicking myself, for not picking up 9009, such a gorgeous set
No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.
Has it really been 6 weeks? :eek:
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.
I'm jealous, and kicking myself, for not picking up 9009, such a gorgeous set
It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).
It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).Come and gone.
It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).Come and gone.
The M65-A overstock ran me a little dry of funds, and then I went and picked up another keyboard from a local user just because I could still afford rent after the M54-A. I couldn't have justified a keycap set on top of it (I will tell myself to make myself feel better. But I am looking forward to seeing people's 9009 builds.
Well, my guess is it will run again within the year. Early 2019 if nothing else. I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone just started stocking 9009 and every one of its child kits somewhere.
Well, my guess is it will run again within the year. Early 2019 if nothing else. I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone just started stocking 9009 and every one of its child kits somewhere.
What I'm really holding out for, and what I think would look really good on the Exent is SA Jukebox. I saw on MD that they have TaiHao Cubic Jukebox, but I'm not sure how I feel about the cubic profile... It's a pretty cheap set though...
No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.
Yuktsi's last update regarding the GMK sets was on the 31st, not the 2nd.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2555563#msg2555563
Not saying that's excusable in any way, just saying spreading misinformation is far from optimal/fair not only to them but to the rest of us.
#Update 9th August 2017
Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.
I don't intend to pick through 47 pages to find sporadic posts. They need to add information to the update section at the front of the thread, that's why it exists. The last update was on January 2nd.
imagine ordering a basic poly bottom kit that shipped last year but the gb runners decided it would be a smart idea to ship assembled so your poly bottom is ****ed up and the pcb is disfunctional so even though you should've been the first to have a functioning product you're going to end up being the last. yay.
#Update 9th August 2017
Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.
Hahahahahahahaha.
I don't intend to pick through 47 pages to find sporadic posts. They need to add information to the update section at the front of the thread, that's why it exists. The last update was on January 2nd.
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!
I assumed most people like myself just read 'Panca.....' and immediately move on to the next post?
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!
Your definition of "white knight" seems warped, I think you spend too much time on the internet. I understand you're upset and trying to instigate again just because I didn't reply to the highly friendly PM you sent me after you got shunned off the thread a few weeks back but there really is no need to try and escalate things publicly. Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?
Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?
Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?
fremdschämen? Everything is better with friends.
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!
Hi DPD!
For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.
E.g.
QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.
For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.
E.g.
QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.
This is really ****ty. I don't think it was anything you did. I had a similar issue with my VE.A, the whole bottom row was outputting similar, odd strings of characters. It was after I tried to remap it, I was able to get it working again just by unplugging it from the USB cable, rebooting my computer, and plugging it back in. After which I had to go in an remap a few keys. If you haven't tried that yet it is worth a shot. Seems too simple to work, but it did work for me with Bootmapper. I hope that does work...
Do we know what other PCBs will work with Exent?
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.Try unplugging/restarting/replugging and bootmapper mode a few times. Also change the language to ENG while in the bootmapper mode if you haven't yet. My b.fake PCB does that sometimes.
It's typing out like random sequences of numbers and commas. I tried to follow the catweewee guide "firm up" then download, but I can't get it to give me the rows and columns of "bad" anymore.
I can't map anything. I can't get some keys to respond.
Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.
I guess my Exent is shot. Does anyone have a PCB they'd be willing to sell me?
FYI it shows up as ps2avrgb (or whatever), regardless of if I'm shorting the control key or not.
So I don't understand this. For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.
E.g.
QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.
I'm guessing those are rows/columns, but it would be nice if it could output letters instead.
Also, bootmapper won't pick up the far left column. ESC, and all the other keys below it don't work. Although I've intermittently gotten it to load into bootmapper mode with the LCRTL key held down.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.Try unplugging/restarting/replugging and bootmapper mode a few times. Also change the language to ENG while in the bootmapper mode if you haven't yet. My b.fake PCB does that sometimes.
It's typing out like random sequences of numbers and commas. I tried to follow the catweewee guide "firm up" then download, but I can't get it to give me the rows and columns of "bad" anymore.
I can't map anything. I can't get some keys to respond.
Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.
I guess my Exent is shot. Does anyone have a PCB they'd be willing to sell me?
FYI it shows up as ps2avrgb (or whatever), regardless of if I'm shorting the control key or not.
So I don't understand this. For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.
E.g.
QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.
I'm guessing those are rows/columns, but it would be nice if it could output letters instead.
Also, bootmapper won't pick up the far left column. ESC, and all the other keys below it don't work. Although I've intermittently gotten it to load into bootmapper mode with the LCRTL key held down.
Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?
That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.
If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?
That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.
If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.
I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.
I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.
I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?
That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.
If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.
I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.
I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.
I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.
Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot. I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?
That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.
If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.
I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.
I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.
I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.
Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot. I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.
I'll upload tonight.
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?
That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.
If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.
I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.
I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.
I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.
Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot. I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.
I'll upload tonight.
Pretty sure I've had this problem before on a different board based on this firmware and I solved it by getting the latest firmware and bootloader etc from the site. This link should be the latest version I think:
http://blog.winkeyless.kr/222
It's in Korean which I'm assuming you don't speak. My advice would be to use a google translate browser extension to translate it (works out easier than using the actual site imo) assuming you don't already have one. I'm pretty sure I just followed instructions and made sure the date on everything was the latest, may have had one or two issues but I managed to figure them out (it was a while back and I can't really remember exact details I'm afraid). I haven't got my Exent yet so I'm not familiar with any possible specifics however or if it needs a certain version.
Either way I'd give it a crack and if it doesn't work/you can't figure it out if you wait a day or two I'm sure somebody far more knowledgeable than myself will post in here and be able to help you out. I'd be pretty surprised if it does actually turn out to be a hardware issue/something getting knocked off.
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0gHave you tried just cleaning it up with an alcohol wipe? Sometimes I've found just giving it a good clean will resolve strange keymap issues if there's a short somewhere. Also, I saw you mention your issues above, is there a firmware file you can flash to the board at all (I haven't seen the guide, just thinking out loud)? I only ask as I had a FaceW board that was playing me up in similar ways to yours, and it was because I had flashed the wrong firmware so the keys were all over the place.
Let me know if I need a better picture.
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g
Let me know if I need a better picture.
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g
Let me know if I need a better picture.
Picture is good. Some observations:
- Microcontroller, USB connection, diodes, and pads all look good.
- Besides the unsoldered switches, soldering looks good and does not interfere with components around it.
- Today I learned the EXENT supports plate mount switches...
- No lifted pads or weird traces
From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue. I'd finish soldering and give it another go. Anyone else have any ideas?
Indeed, they do. Unless the PCB somehow doesn't allow a plate...PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g
Let me know if I need a better picture.
Picture is good. Some observations:
- Microcontroller, USB connection, diodes, and pads all look good.
- Besides the unsoldered switches, soldering looks good and does not interfere with components around it.
- Today I learned the EXENT supports plate mount switches...
- No lifted pads or weird traces
From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue. I'd finish soldering and give it another go. Anyone else have any ideas?
Surely EVERY PCB supports plate-mounted switches?
In another matter, has anyone noticed that the Exent support lots more layouts than the disclosed when the keyboard was created? You can fill the entire right side of the bottom row with 1x's and combine 1.25x with 1x's as well, not only 1.5x with 1x's. If I remember correctly, you could also put all 1x's in the left side of the bottom row, and for the split space there are more options as well, pretty exciting. Yesterday I did play with it for more than an hour and a half.This may be true, but you'll want to confirm by following the traces. It's possible that some switch positions aren't supported by the matrix due to overlap. I've seen this on at least one other board (GH-122).
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."
I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?
Thanks.
My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.
Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.
@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?
Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."
I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?
Thanks.
My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.
Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.
@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?
Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.
Something interesting about boot mapper mode is that instead of keystrokes it does send out column+row information, which kinda sounds like your issue. But the entire board should be doing that, so it really does sound like your firmware is jacked up.
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g
Let me know if I need a better picture.
Picture is good. Some observations:
- Microcontroller, USB connection, diodes, and pads all look good.
- Besides the unsoldered switches, soldering looks good and does not interfere with components around it.
- Today I learned the EXENT supports plate mount switches...
- No lifted pads or weird traces
From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue. I'd finish soldering and give it another go. Anyone else have any ideas?
Surely EVERY PCB supports plate-mounted switches?
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.
What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?
That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.
If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.
I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.
I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.
I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.
Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot. I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.
I'll upload tonight.
Pretty sure I've had this problem before on a different board based on this firmware and I solved it by getting the latest firmware and bootloader etc from the site. This link should be the latest version I think:
http://blog.winkeyless.kr/222
It's in Korean which I'm assuming you don't speak. My advice would be to use a google translate browser extension to translate it (works out easier than using the actual site imo) assuming you don't already have one. I'm pretty sure I just followed instructions and made sure the date on everything was the latest, may have had one or two issues but I managed to figure them out (it was a while back and I can't really remember exact details I'm afraid). I haven't got my Exent yet so I'm not familiar with any possible specifics however or if it needs a certain version.
Either way I'd give it a crack and if it doesn't work/you can't figure it out if you wait a day or two I'm sure somebody far more knowledgeable than myself will post in here and be able to help you out. I'd be pretty surprised if it does actually turn out to be a hardware issue/something getting knocked off.
I'm already using Version 0.10.0.
Where's a link to the latest firmware you're talking about? the ps2avrNRKO or whatever?
I'll get around to uploading a picture of the PCB later, but I'm kinda worried the left column is seriously dead. I have no idea how to check for sure.
The reason I say that is I'm not convinced I'm actually getting the thing into bootloader mode, which requires the left CRTL key to be held down. Is there any way to beyond a shadow of doubt tell if I'm in bootloader mode? Is there a way of jumping terminals on the MCU to get it into the bootloader?
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."
I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?
Thanks.
My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.
Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.
@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?
Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.
I doubt it will help, but here's a nice mini guide to using bootmapper:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0)
Really sucks that the left side of your board is broken; you need a key from that side to put the board into boot mapper mode.
Something interesting about boot mapper mode is that instead of keystrokes it does send out column+row information, which kinda sounds like your issue. But the entire board should be doing that, so it really does sound like your firmware is jacked up.
As far as a way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself, I would think that would be possible. Toward the bottom left of the PCB when it's face down like that you can see the six pins that you need (https://i.imgur.com/hRj1rBI.png). Unfortunately I'm not familiar with them in that orientation so I'm not sure which ones do what. I would assume the last two are the reset and ground, but I don't like assuming things. If you can find out you can use these with an ISP programmer if necessary to revive the board.
I've never had a pleasant experience with QMK, so I'd carefully consider before trying to flash it. My current QMK-powered board is a brick right now until I can get everything desoldered and ISP program it. For some reason whoever designed the PCB decided to stick the ISP connectors on the top of the PCB and not underneath, so I can't access said connectors with the switch plate on.
The label starts at the square pin and is labelled as ICSP01, so that should be the #1 pin. If there are any active GB leaders here, or others that have run into initiating bootloader mode, they could confirm.
I still don't think this is a physical issue. It sounds like a firmware issue. As long as you can find a way to get into bootloader mode, you should be able to erase/load the memory. I don't understand why all PCB designers don't have a small button for that can be used to get into bootloader mode instead of using jumps? The switch part is not expensive and it only takes two leads to bridge the pins you need.
PLease report back with what you find!
My guess is you're shorting the bootloader key, which is the "top left key in the matrix". I can check tonight, but it'd likely be ESC or l_ctrl.
Control has so many pads, I'd check there first. Have a multimeter?
Put it in continuity mode and see if the upper and lower pins show continuity. Without the switch depressed, they shouldn't.
Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?
Couple new pieces of information.
- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.
- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.
- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.
Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?
Couple new pieces of information.
- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.
- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.
- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.
Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?
Couple new pieces of information.
- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.
- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.
- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.
I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.
Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?
Couple new pieces of information.
- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.
- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.
- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.
I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.
The GB version I tried completely broke everything. I'll try the others, see what the do.
- ESC key is not shorted.
- I'll try other suggestions over the weekend
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Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?
Couple new pieces of information.
- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.
- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.
- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.
I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.
The GB version I tried completely broke everything. I'll try the others, see what the do.
- ESC key is not shorted.
- I'll try other suggestions over the weekend
Yeh I'd try from bottom upwards basically. What controller does it use exactly? I'm assuming one of the megas? Might be worth speaking to the guy who made EasyAVR in this thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0), seems to be really knowledgeable and helpful. Also, would it not be possible to just use flip and reload/use a different firmware?
Has anyone with the alu bottoms gotten a tracking number?I certainly haven't
Has anyone with the alu bottoms gotten a tracking number?I certainly haven't
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Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message. I don't know how to use flip.
@Pancake: Try this please.
- Disconnect your Exent if connected
- Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
- Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
- Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
- Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
- When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
- Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
- Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
- Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps
You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.
Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.
Hope this helps man
No tracking here either. Hope this doesn't turn into another Smart68 situation.
Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message. I don't know how to use flip.
Pancake, have you tried any of this?@Pancake: Try this please.
- Disconnect your Exent if connected
- Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
- Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
- Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
- Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
- When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
- Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
- Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
- Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps
You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.
Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.
Hope this helps man
Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message. I don't know how to use flip.
Pancake, have you tried any of this?@Pancake: Try this please.
- Disconnect your Exent if connected
- Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
- Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
- Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
- Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
- When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
- Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
- Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
- Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps
You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.
Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.
Hope this helps man
No tracking here either. Hope this doesn't turn into another Smart68 situation.
What situation was that?
Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message. I don't know how to use flip.
Pancake, have you tried any of this?@Pancake: Try this please.
- Disconnect your Exent if connected
- Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
- Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
- Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
- Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
- When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
- Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
- Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
- Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps
You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.
Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.
Hope this helps man
- Left column remains unresponsive.
o- Left column remains unresponsive.
Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.
https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a
o- Left column remains unresponsive.
Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.
https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a
No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.
Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.
How did you end up discovering that? Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?
o- Left column remains unresponsive.
Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.
https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a
No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.
Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.
How did you end up discovering that? Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?
I started following the trace from the end of the column. Test for continuity at every via all the way up to the MCU. When I got to the MCU I noticed the lack of soldering and I didn't have any continuity at the pin, but had continuity if I probed the pad right in front of the pin.
o- Left column remains unresponsive.
Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.
https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a
No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.
Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.
How did you end up discovering that? Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?
I started following the trace from the end of the column. Test for continuity at every via all the way up to the MCU. When I got to the MCU I noticed the lack of soldering and I didn't have any continuity at the pin, but had continuity if I probed the pad right in front of the pin.
I sort of understand what you just said but it would be a huge, huge favor if you could draw on the picture of my PCB a path of vias I should be testing along. It would really help me out.
So I've effectively done this. I tested it a little bit just now and it confirms the results I've gotten before.
- On plugging in the keyboard, it outputs the row/col info for the ESC key (0,.14 or something). EK picks this up, meaning specifically it picks up that "0", ",",".","1","4" were "pressed."
- Toggling bootmapper off sort of lets me type normally. Like pressing "q" gives me an actual q, not row/col. My guess is EK would pick this up.
- I can in fact download and upload layouts from and to the exent, and typing confirms this. For example I can map "q" to the number "1," and type it out.
- Unplugging then plugging it back in puts me back into the row/col output state, but does retain the programmed layout.
- Left column remains unresponsive.
o- Left column remains unresponsive.
Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.
https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a
So I've effectively done this. I tested it a little bit just now and it confirms the results I've gotten before.
- On plugging in the keyboard, it outputs the row/col info for the ESC key (0,.14 or something). EK picks this up, meaning specifically it picks up that "0", ",",".","1","4" were "pressed."
- Toggling bootmapper off sort of lets me type normally. Like pressing "q" gives me an actual q, not row/col. My guess is EK would pick this up.
- I can in fact download and upload layouts from and to the exent, and typing confirms this. For example I can map "q" to the number "1," and type it out.
- Unplugging then plugging it back in puts me back into the row/col output state, but does retain the programmed layout.
- Left column remains unresponsive.
I can't be 100% sure, but this means to me that there's a short anywhere in the left column, thus putting it in bootmapper mode when plugged in, since you press the LCTRL when pluggin in to put it in bootmapper mode.
The left column was unresponsive at every stage of the troubleshooting? Even in the bootmapper client?
Also, to check continuity you need to put one terminal on a pad of a switch and the other terminal on a pad that should be at the end of the (visible) trace. There are some traces than go to a little hole, that's a via. It's only proposit is to follow the path to the other side of the board, so check connectivity at the via and the flip the PCB to continue. I can't provide a pic now, but I'll try this weekend.
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.
So, fixed. **** knows what happened, probably a short somewhere like everyone was saying.
Anyway, thanks for the help though, much appreciated the advice.
Oh PS XDA Canvas looks absolutely incredible on it. I though ashen would be perfect for it but these might be even better.
https://imgur.com/a/q0p03
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.
Oh man, I am really glad you got it working, sorry it was such a ****ing hassle. Really loving the Canvas set on it as well, gorgeous board!
It's pretty infuriating that Yuktsi is so active in the tgr910 thread and ignoring simple questions in this one.
Now if the actual group buy runner would go on here that'd be great too. 2 months MIA lmao
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.
So, fixed. **** knows what happened, probably a short somewhere like everyone was saying.
Anyway, thanks for the help though, much appreciated the advice.
Oh PS XDA Canvas looks absolutely incredible on it. I though ashen would be perfect for it but these might be even better.
https://imgur.com/a/q0p03
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
To be honest I'd rather get my board, but either way I'd just like to know what's going on.So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...
He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...
Frankly, after a year of financing the production of this board to "merely" receive a refund and then for them to turn around and sell them for more on Oco? I'd be highly pissed.
On a seperate note, I've been thinking about buying a newer larger 3d printer. If I got one big enough to print an EXENT bottom would there be any interest in a replacement printed 3d bottom?
On a seperate note, I've been thinking about buying a newer larger 3d printer. If I got one big enough to print an EXENT bottom would there be any interest in a replacement printed 3d bottom?
I may be able to cast a few if there is a real need, have to get my kits in the mail first though...
I may be able to cast a few if there is a real need, have to get my kits in the mail first though...
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.
What was your order?
Praying for mine :pray:
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.
What was your order?
Praying for mine :pray:
Basic kit with brass plate, 8/12 deg feet, aluminum bottom, and it was one of the purple.
Tracking here as well, any idea what the shipping company is? Expected timeframe to US?
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.
Hey, only 2 weeks later than they said. Not bad! :rolleyes:
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Has anyone heard anything about the status of premium kit orders with the GMK set + MOD switches?
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This is the latest update form Sheraton.
Unless you count the email I got when I asked Sheraton about it. But his email was vague and confusing; basically all I got out of it was that the GMK sets haven't even been produced yet.
I wish they would just forget the premium features. "Downgrade" all of us to standard kits and refund us some money, and ship without the GMK set and switches.
There may not be any money left to "refund" at this point... :-[
Hence the numerous, unaccounted-for delays.
Unless you count the email I got when I asked Sheraton about it. But his email was vague and confusing; basically all I got out of it was that the GMK sets haven't even been produced yet.
I wish they would just forget the premium features. "Downgrade" all of us to standard kits and refund us some money, and ship without the GMK set and switches.
Yeah.. I'm starting to realize that we probably won't get our boards or our money back.
Has anyone heard anything about the status of premium kit orders with the GMK set + MOD switches?
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!
Hype agained ! :cool:
The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.
Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel :thumb:
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Take it easy guys. Boards are made, and have been shipped. I don't think a refund is necessary at this point, since we've all waited for so long and the problems are with just shipping the stuff out.
If you're really antsy about getting the board you can probably pm yuktsi about it.
When was this? In case it was recently then either you misunderstood what Sherry said or he gave you (or the people whom I know that spoke to him personally) the wrong information - the GMK sets are and have been finished for quite the while now, there was some sort of internal miscommunication between the Originative side and Juahenza/Yuktsi and co which led to Sherry to hold on to the sets until recently; I believe he thought he would be in charge of shipping US orders but then that wasn't the case.
Here's where I posted about it a few weeks ago:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2562136#msg2562136 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2562136#msg2562136)
Using that information that you've provided (and the invoice of the dude who recently had a premium kit shipped) it looks I probably asked him about it before the misunderstanding was resolved. In the email he sent me it looked like he was waiting to ship the US orders himself like you said. Thanks for fact checking me and clearing things up for us too.
I'm not sure whether DPD's order that was shipped includes his premium kit too or just the aluminium bottom basic (seeing as he has 2 different kinds on order), would make sense if they both went out at the same time but until further clarification we won't know for sure. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how it unfolds.
Again, would be nice if Yuktsi or, god bless his cotton socks, Juahenza would just reappear like the second coming of Christ and let us know what actually is happening with the GMK sets but yea.
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Edit: just realised it's pretty much the eve of my payment anniversary... Yay me!
Edit #2: It seems shipping was already charged according to my invoice. Are people getting getting invoiced extra for shipping??Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!
Hype agained ! :cool:
The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.
Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel :thumb:
Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address... I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is. Looking forward to getting this guy!
I'll keep you posted.
It's okay, REDACTED is friend of Yuktsi also he's a Malaysian
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!
Hype agained ! :cool:
The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.
Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel :thumb:
Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address... I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is. Looking forward to getting this guy!
I'll keep you posted.
Where exactly are you supposed to see the tracking number anyways?They update my PayPal order and PayPal sent me an email with tracking
Also still waiting on Premium Black with one of each base. <3
Still no update on tracking number, it is still inactive :( meaning they still did not drop it I think!
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Edit: just realised it's pretty much the eve of my payment anniversary... Yay me!
Edit #2: It seems shipping was already charged according to my invoice. Are people getting getting invoiced extra for shipping??
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.
Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!
Hype agained ! :cool:
The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.
Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel :thumb:
Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address... I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is. Looking forward to getting this guy!
I'll keep you posted.
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."
It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
:mad:
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."
It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
:mad:
Also, after this GB is finished, I do hope there will be additional GB regarding aluminum bottoms for people who chose PC ones. The crack of my bottom is getting worse.
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."
It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
:mad:
Thats it exactly. I questioned why mine too so long to update way back when. "SF is slow to to process."
My C225 shipped SF Express and it was here in like a week, end to end.
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.
He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.
I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.
However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.
He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.
I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.
However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.
He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.
I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.
However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(
Yuktsi is the T(GR) in TARO - it's his or her buy too.
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.
He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.
I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.
However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(
Yuktsi is the T(GR) in TARO - it's his or her buy too.
He :rolleyes:
But yeah, you're right. (Although I wouldn't say it's RAMA's buy, but we've already beat that topic.)
yuktsi did respond to my PM.
"I actually just created a request to my courier to pick them up instead. Will see it goes for the next couple of days."
yuktsi did respond to my PM.
"I actually just created a request to my courier to pick them up instead. Will see it goes for the next couple of days."
Was this the PM about the Premium kits? So he's having his courier pick up the GMK sets + switches?
That's right. I'm not sure, I just copy/pasted...those two sentences are the entire PM.
Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?
Yeah but still no update on this POS Malaysia code for you too I think :(Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?Me.
I paid for premium kit with both silver alu and black alu bottom. No tracking inform received yet.Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?
Me.
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Yep, that's the one.
That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!
REDACTED
Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?
Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.
i know it's a long shot but any resolution on what's happening for those who received cracked poly bottoms?
hoping it gets addressed soon but i know that's asking a loti know it's a long shot but any resolution on what's happening for those who received cracked poly bottoms?
AFAIK it's been radio silence on this issues (cracked poly, missing stabs) for quite a while now.
I wouldn't expect anything about cracked bottoms, faulty PCB's and missing stabs in less than 6 months, but we'll see. People with premium kits still haven't received their tracking and this is being even more ridiculous than it's been before.
Considering this project has four well known community members, you think someone would step up and take a leadership role here. RAMA, TGR, Originative, and Aconic all have their names on this group buy... You think one of them could set the record straight here.
Considering this project has four well known community members, you think someone would step up and take a leadership role here. RAMA, TGR, Originative, and Aconic all have their names on this group buy... You think one of them could set the record straight here.
Although this would be repeating the discussion (and I'm not saying that I agree or I don't) it's been said that RAMA was just the designer, so I doubt that he would like to take this GB and do something with it. Originative is in the other side of the world AFAIK, so they can't do much either. I think this is now more of dodging the ****storm than to solve our problems as their customers. This is not the first ****-up for some of them and they are still "prestigious" in the community, so I doubt they care about this affecting their reputation. It's just not fair for us because we have no power at all or any way to enforce anything of them. We can only wait and praise they fulfill our orders and solve our problems. Unless we go to every thread, page, forum, etc and start spamming their products, buys and whatever with comments regarding this, but we all know how this ends in GH
No one wants to take responsibility, and that's unacceptable behavior to me.
That's my point. Yuktsi, of all the names attached to this GB, has been the most responsive and available to me. E-mail and PMs responded to quickly, fairly regular updates in the forum, and has worked with me on changing my shipping address.
Juahenza seems to have perished, Originative is across the world and Rama has nothing to do with the project except them having used his (unfinished) design - Yuktsi seems to be the only one actually able and willing to work toward getting this sorted and as much as I imagine he wants to do right by people, he also has his 910 GB he's been working toward finishing.
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Yes... They did this with the first wave of shipments too. Just because you have a tracking number doesn't mean the parcel is in possession of a mail carrier. Most (all?) of the shipping companies will let you print a label for drop-off or pick-up at some undetermined future date. And that's exactly what's taking place now. Whoever has the labeled packages needs to drop them off or schedule the pick-up. I don't know how it works in SE Asia, but in the US we call that just being ****ing lazy.
Got a PM from juahenza today. He just received the GMK caps! All remaining orders will ship by end of next week! :p
GET READY
It's a Christmas miracle.
Easter miracle?
Miracle.
PS: you best not be trolling homie, I will clap cheeks.
This is the same guy who said Juahenza was going to start offering refunds after Feb. 22 (which never came to pass, at least not publicly).
Got a PM from juahenza today. He just received the GMK caps! All remaining orders will ship by end of next week! :p
GET READY
It's a Christmas miracle.
Easter miracle?
Miracle.
PS: you best not be trolling homie, I will clap cheeks.
I'm not sure how to say this politely, so eh: I have doubts about the validity of this guy's statement. This is the same guy who said Juahenza was going to start offering refunds after Feb. 22 (which never came to pass, at least not publicly). I've asked him when Juahenza said that and he never responded to me. If I'm looking at the site right Juahenza hasn't been on geekhack since Feb. 7, so unless Juahenza is PM'ing this guy via a different method it doesn't sound too legit to me.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QRW1xDa.jpg)
POS Malaysia or SF Express?
Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.
POS Malaysia or SF Express?
Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.
POS Malaysia or SF Express?
Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.
It is POS Malaysia for me and since today it says «Item posted over the counter»!
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.gl
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.
lol
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.
lol
Sorry, it's been over 1 year guys! : (
lol
Sorry, it's been over 1 year guys! : (
Several of us asked to cancel months ago, but they're not willing to refund anyone's money.
The reason people are laughing is because you can't cancel anyway—that would require the GB runners ever check this thread again.
We should start posting in the TGR-910 thread. :eek:
We should start posting in the TGR-910 thread. :eek:
I wouldn't advise "brigading" other threads with your concerns. That's poor form. But if it's the only way to get a response and some closure on our GB then they've left us with very little recourse. Tough call.
You gotta give him points for the confidence, even if it's delusional.
extra bonus 4 triggering? alright i'll just wait for the keyboard, dang!
[...] Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.
[...] Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.
pray for gnarlsagan
[...] Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.
pray for gnarlsagan
brutal....
Did anyone who had to update their address receive their order at their new address? My PayPal was updated with tracking on December 28th, and the tracking number doesn't show a result on sf-express.com anymore (in the past the tracking number showed that the shipment had been created but no activity had registered).
I updated my address through PMing juahenza last September, and he confirmed, but I'm wondering if they still sent my order to my old address, since that is the address listed on PayPal.
Obviously already PMed juahenza with my concerns, but he hasn't been active here since Feb 7th. Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.
hey juahenza
hope all is great with you man
not sure how much this thread is being checked based on the chatter but if it is i was hoping i could grab an update on a couple orders from you guys
for my order, i cant remember if its being sent to me or jokrik, and is there any way to follow if this has shipped or not
secondly, i believe baldgyes board is shipping to me to be assembled, so same thing goes, any way to know if we are shipped yet or lost in transit
sorry to be a bother, im completely happy waiting i just know both of the above orders had address changes etc and im not sure if my email has been attached to either for me to have gotten a notification, hopefully all this hasnt been addressed somewhere obvious
anyway, thanks for all the hard work, excited to see these in person finally after all of your hard work comes to fruition
hey juahenza
hope all is great with you man
not sure how much this thread is being checked based on the chatter but if it is i was hoping i could grab an update on a couple orders from you guys
for my order, i cant remember if its being sent to me or jokrik, and is there any way to follow if this has shipped or not
secondly, i believe baldgyes board is shipping to me to be assembled, so same thing goes, any way to know if we are shipped yet or lost in transit
sorry to be a bother, im completely happy waiting i just know both of the above orders had address changes etc and im not sure if my email has been attached to either for me to have gotten a notification, hopefully all this hasnt been addressed somewhere obvious
anyway, thanks for all the hard work, excited to see these in person finally after all of your hard work comes to fruition
Your best bet for an answer would be to PM Yuktsi. Pretty sure Juahenza has decided to abandon geekhack altogether and never check it again (he might have even abandoned the entire project, who knows). Yuktsi has refused to answer anyone or update anything in this thread, but I've heard he's relatively helpful with PMs. Best of luck to you.
Did anyone who had to update their address receive their order at their new address? My PayPal was updated with tracking on December 28th, and the tracking number doesn't show a result on sf-express.com anymore (in the past the tracking number showed that the shipment had been created but no activity had registered).
I updated my address through PMing juahenza last September, and he confirmed, but I'm wondering if they still sent my order to my old address, since that is the address listed on PayPal.
Obviously already PMed juahenza with my concerns, but he hasn't been active here since Feb 7th. Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.
Please help, my Exent got bricked.
Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).
It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.
It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.
Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.
Please help, my Exent got bricked.
Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).
It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.
It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.
Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.
Please help, my Exent got bricked.
Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).
It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.
It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.
Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.
Have you tried a different USB cable?
To me that sounds like connection issues. Maybe you worked the USB receptacle in the Exent out of place. Try a new cable, and if that doesn't work take a look at the USB plug on the PCB and see if there's any obvious damage to it. You know, broken solder joints, stuff like that.
Please help, my Exent got bricked.
Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).
It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.
It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.
Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.
Dang, another PCB horror story. Is it possible that you have a bad solder joint? That's what happened to the last guy. Do you have another machine you can try, preferably with a different OS like macOS or Linux?
How did the other guy fix it?
I tried different cables and different PC's. Same problem at all situations. I can't see any obvious damage to the USB port on the board, but I can't see it that well because of the plate. I can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches. Also I have a small USB hub on my desk, and when I changed ports it was on my PC, I didn't touch the boards port.
I can get a hold of most tools I think. When you say a picture of the pcb, you mean this?: (https://i.imgur.com/DQhEuzv.jpg)
How did the other guy fix it?
I tried different cables and different PC's. Same problem at all situations. I can't see any obvious damage to the USB port on the board, but I can't see it that well because of the plate. I can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches. Also I have a small USB hub on my desk, and when I changed ports it was on my PC, I didn't touch the boards port.
I'm the other guy, as I said previously (in an edit). I "fixed" it by desoldering the entire board. For the second time. I needed to replace a few parts and it ended up needing a complete desolder. So I did that, and then started experiencing problems while I was soldering the switches back into the board. So I gave up and took the switches out again and the PCB somehow fixed itself. Don't look at me.
But I was getting different symptoms. I was getting power and pressing keys even worked, kind of. Basically, it was like my PCB was stuck in bootloader mode I think?
So you're gonna need to start by taking keyboard apart and uploading a picture of the PCB. Don't take out the switches yet, though.
Maybe, though don't quote my cause I'm not electricamicalenginerdo, maybe when you unplugged the USB cable you fried something. What kind of electronics tools do you have? Do you have an oscilloscope and/or a voltmeter?
Here's my suggestion: Post in the TGR910 thread, Yuktsi is responding there.
Before anyone lights me up, the EXENT PCB is the TGR910 PCB. Just the solder mask and silkscreen are different. The EXENT has the same top side RGB mount location the TGR910 does.
Thanks a lot dude, I appreciate it. It's a bad feeling having a broken piece of hardware, especially when it's so unique.Here's my suggestion: Post in the TGR910 thread, Yuktsi is responding there.
Before anyone lights me up, the EXENT PCB is the TGR910 PCB. Just the solder mask and silkscreen are different. The EXENT has the same top side RGB mount location the TGR910 does.
I'm on your side about this. Yuktsi told me as much in a PM that the PCBs are identical.
I would also maybe make a separate thread in the workshop/making stuff together or whatever forum, and also try looking through the "PCB design" thread or whatever to see if he can get an idea of what should be working but isn't.
Also PM Yuktsi directly, not that I think that will be terrible useful. He did tell me, though, that if it came to that he would sell me a new PCB. Given the way this project is I wouldn't put too much faith in that prospect though.
I'm sorry dude, as for your PCB picture I can't see anything obvious, aside from some cold solder joins on LEDs. The solder on the switch terminals also look dangerously close to their respective diodes in some places, but if it was working before hand I don't know how likely it is one of these is what's causing problems.
I guess what I would do is seeing if I could backtrace the continuity from the USB plug to...somewhere else on the board. I might also see what signals things are getting on a functional keyboard and compare those with what's going on with your exent.
I really feel for you, and I wish I could do more. I've gone through this multiple times now where I've had PCB issues and haven't really gotten, I dunno, the best help from posting online. In every case I've ended up in one way or another finding the fix myself, usually from blind luck.
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?
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Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?
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I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?
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I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?
Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv)
https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)
I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?
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I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?
Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:Show Image(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)
I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.
That does nothing.Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?
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I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?
Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:Show Image(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)
I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.
****ing weird. Have you tried holding LCRTL when plugging it in? That's the go into bootmapper button.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.Yes, same here. :(
Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.Yes, same here. :(
Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
PM yuktsi?
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.
Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
like shouting into a black hole at this point.
Yes, same here. :(
I had an address change and received my order at the new address (the paypal invoice still showed the old one). WRT sf-express and tracking numbers - I got the tracking number and the sf-express site showed nothing until 3 weeks later when it showed up and progressed through the system.
PM yuktsi?
The number of Exent PMs Yuktsi has ignored greatly outnumbers the total count of shipped Exents.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.
Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.
Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.
they're a trollI heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.
Curious, where did you hear that?
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.
Heard where? lol
Also why are you still here? I thought you already got a refund :^)
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.
Heard where? lol
Also why are you still here? I thought you already got a refund :^)
Heard from himself when he claimed to receive a PM from someone who hasn't signed into GH or sent PMs in more than a month. Honestly don't know why he continues to come back to the thread to fill it with misleading info.
Really really nice job! :(That took me a while to notice, the heck? How did this happen, the CNC machine just stopped working?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?
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I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?
Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:Show Image(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)
I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.
****ing weird. Have you tried holding LCRTL when plugging it in? That's the go into bootmapper button.
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)
Exent high-quality QA strikes again.
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)
Exent high-quality QA strikes again.
Could you put the switch in this hole?
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)
Exent high-quality QA strikes again.
Could you put the switch in this hole?
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)
Exent high-quality QA strikes again.
Could you put the switch in this hole?
Absolutely can't!
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)
Really really nice job! :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)
whaaaaat the fuuuuuuck
That's egregious. This whole ****ing group buy is. Everyone attached to this project should be ashamed of themselves.
@GreyAmbience: Congrats on the fix. Like I said, blind luck is usually what prevails. That's what my experience has been.
At what point do we as a group decide that enough is enough? I have tried to be patient and not jump on the bandwagon, but at this point I feel like waiting has gotten me nowhere. In addition to that the posts with newly defective PCBs and plates makes me think that even if I get my board it will be damaged. Is there anything we can do as a group to respectfully and safely put pressure / remind the runners that they have an obligation to us?
I am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.
It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.
I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.
I absolutely agreeI am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.
It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.
I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.
I agree. But this thread just keeps going in circles of hope and disappointment.
Mods should keep it clear with only troubleshooting/update posts imo.
I am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.
It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.
I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.
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No one involved is doing much of anything to fix problems period, let alone when they arise. To say otherwise is simply wishful thinking.
The group buy runners seem to have stopped communicating, with no update by juahenza since January 2nd.
Occasionally an individual participant receives some info which usually doesn't pan out.
*Maybe* all of the participants will get functioning boards, at some unknown point wildly beyond any of the promised timelines, but the conduct of the GB so far makes that wishful thinking at best.
No one involved is doing much of anything to fix problems period, let alone when they arise. To say otherwise is simply wishful thinking.
The group buy runners seem to have stopped communicating, with no update by juahenza since January 2nd.
Occasionally an individual participant receives some info which usually doesn't pan out.
*Maybe* all of the participants will get functioning boards, at some unknown point wildly beyond any of the promised timelines, but the conduct of the GB so far makes that wishful thinking at best.
We don't know what is being done behind the scenes, to claim anything else is just conjecture and feeds a pool of misinformation about what is going on. Communication has stopped, that's all we know. While that is super ****ty and is only causing problems, people have gotten boards, and emails and PMs and tracking information that doesn't seem to work universally, so things are happening on the GB runners end and even if it is happening painfully slowly things are being addressed. Because things are still moving, and boards are showing up I don't think it's wishful thinking, I really do think that everything will be addressed, I just think it's going to take a lot longer than it ever should have.
A few people have gotten boards. Some of them even function properly! The lack of communication and conduct so far means it is completely reasonable to speculate things will continue in the same vein and may not get any better.
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J
/end tp4
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J
/end tp4
And they're located in SEA. The plot thickens...
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J
/end tp4
And they're located in SEA. The plot thickens...
I dont get it. Who is the other J guy?
Here's my exent buildThank you, Sebastian.
https://imgur.com/a/k6bfj
At first I thought I got a faulty PCB, because row 14 and 15 is not responsive at all, then I desolder all the switch in row 14 and 15, and resolder it again carefully. Now my EXENT works normal. :p
Maybe for you that got a 'faulty' PCB can try to desolder all the switch in the faulty row and resolder again with a little amount of solder.
Hope this help :D
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
Yeah, they have been collected. I am aware that some of the trackings are not moving, along with my some other shipments. I've contacted them and hope that things get sorted soon.OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
I will refund you for the stabilizers since they are still not with us yet. We have no update on the replacement bottoms yet, and it might take awhile. The plan right now is to have the remaining units shipped out as soon as possible.OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
It's good to see a response in this thread finally. Can we get an update on replacement bottoms and stabilizers?
Really really nice job! :(Yeah, the anodizing on your full silver unit is really nice. I've not said this enough, it's probably the best I've seen.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Yeah, they have been collected. I am aware that some of the trackings are not moving, along with my some other shipments. I've contacted them and hope that things get sorted soon.OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
I will refund you for the stabilizers since they are still not with us yet. We have no update on the replacement bottoms yet, and it might take awhile. The plan right now is to have the remaining units shipped out as soon as possible.OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
It's good to see a response in this thread finally. Can we get an update on replacement bottoms and stabilizers?
Yeah, they have been collected. I am aware that some of the trackings are not moving, along with my some other shipments. I've contacted them and hope that things get sorted soon.OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....As long as it doesn't show "device not recognized", I am relieved. Send me a PM. I will guide you through.
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?
Is it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....As long as it doesn't show "device not recognized", I am relieved. Send me a PM. I will guide you through.
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?
Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast
Yeah that's where I've been for the last couple of weeks, I'm hoping it just shows up one day.Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?
Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast
Mine still says 'No Record Found' on both POS Malaysia and SF Express. :-[
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?
Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast
Mine still says 'No Record Found' on both POS Malaysia and SF Express. :-[
I got my tracking number back in December, SF-Express is still listing it as an invalid way bill... and the GB runners aren't replying to my polite messages.Well that is disconcerting
Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode. I really hoped for better support on this PCB. Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional? Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?
Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!
Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode. I really hoped for better support on this PCB. Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional? Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?
Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!
FYI:
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
Built the board and no worky :(Try checking the "toggle bootmapper" to map the keys, just hit upload when you are done.
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode. I really hoped for better support on this PCB. Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional? Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?
Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!
FYI:
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.
Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.
Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode. I really hoped for better support on this PCB. Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional? Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?
Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!
FYI:
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.
Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.
UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here?
Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode. I really hoped for better support on this PCB. Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional? Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?
Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!
FYI:
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.
Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.
UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here?
Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.
Yeah, of course.There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.
What about people who ordered both aluminium and poly bottoms? Would they have have had their LEDs reflowed?
Yeah, of course.There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.
What about people who ordered both aluminium and poly bottoms? Would they have have had their LEDs reflowed?
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.Built the board and no worky :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.
Here is the layout:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)
Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.
Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.
Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode. I really hoped for better support on this PCB. Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional? Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?
Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!
FYI:
https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.
Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.
UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here?
Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.
I tried them, holes are too big and you'd need to solder them in, so at this point just solder the switches since it'll be easier than soldering holtites.
Here is the unboxing: https://imgur.com/gallery/FLDz0(https://i.imgur.com/Y6NDJcz.jpg)
Here is the unboxing: https://imgur.com/gallery/FLDz0Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Y6NDJcz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fAPFgO1.jpg)
Quick question, as I'm still one of those waiting patiently: How do I know when it ships? Do I just get an email with the tracking number, or do I have to check PayPal manually?
An update:It seems like the entire column is not functioning. Most likely the pin on the MCU is not properly soldered. Also, you could use a small rubber washer to avoid the screw from shorting the PCB.
I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow
Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.
Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.
I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:
Down Arrow:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)
Left Shift:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)
]}:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)
=+:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
Small question, the polarity of inswitch led is not written anywhere on the pcb. I need help here :3Negative is the one that connects the ground, the pad that is not connected to any track. You could also tell by shorting a LED without soldering.
Small question, the polarity of inswitch led is not written anywhere on the pcb. I need help here :3Negative is the one that connects the ground, the pad that is not connected to any track. You could also tell by shorting a LED without soldering.
It seems like the entire column is not functioning. Most likely the pin on the MCU is not properly soldered. Also, you could use a small rubber washer to avoid the screw from shorting the PCB.
Send me a PM, I will check with the designer of the PCB to identity the pin.
An update:
I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow
Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.
Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.
I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:
Down Arrow:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)
Left Shift:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)
]}:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)
=+:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
Insane anodizing quality.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/91d4dad54d7fdb84dfd43d46808195bf.jpg)
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
An update:
I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow
Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.
Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.
I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:
Down Arrow:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)
Left Shift:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)
]}:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)
=+:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
An update:
I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow
Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.
Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.
I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:
Down Arrow:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)
Left Shift:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)
]}:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)
=+:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.
Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?
No, who does that? In all my years I have never had a bad PCBAn update:
I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow
Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.
Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.
I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:
Down Arrow:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)
Left Shift:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)
]}:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)
=+:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.
Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?
Since you mentioned using zeal stab, I think you have already soldering the switches.
Didn't you test the PCB before soldering?
I used hostites and haven't soldered yet. but every other key works except that row.An update:
I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow
Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.
Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.
I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:
Down Arrow:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)
Left Shift:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)
]}:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)
=+:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.
Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?
Since you mentioned using zeal stab, I think you have already soldering the switches.
Didn't you test the PCB before soldering?
How can I opt into this haha? At this point I rather have the board and wait on the keysIs it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?
I believe the keysets aren't in possession of gb runners yet. I opted for my shipping to get split, which means my keyset/switches will get sent at a later date.
How can I opt into this haha? At this point I rather have the board and wait on the keysIs it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?
I believe the keysets aren't in possession of gb runners yet. I opted for my shipping to get split, which means my keyset/switches will get sent at a later date.
What a disaster. This keyboard is a piece of ****. Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected. Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot. TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.
Still can't get the PCB working. Is there a possibility to get a replacement PCB?What's the problem with it? Did you see my post about my issue?
What a disaster. This keyboard is a piece of ****. Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected. Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot. TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.
What a disaster. This keyboard is a piece of ****. Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected. Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot. TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.
At first I didn’t know about a macos version of bootmapper (I only run on macos). So I created a virtual machine with windows 10, and it failed very hard to flash anything on the keyboard. But then I discovered the native macos version of bootmapper and it work like a charm. So I don’t know which setup you used, but maybe it can be a source of issue if you use a virtual machine.
I did not face any other issue while flashing, all my keys are working, strange issue that some have :/
row starting from the left shift not working at all.Still can't get the PCB working. Is there a possibility to get a replacement PCB?What's the problem with it? Did you see my post about my issue?
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Oh okay, and the other keys work?yea, tried everything software/firmware wise without success. It could be the MCU soldering. Might need to add some solder to the pins around the MCU
Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
Damn, sorry dude, I know the feeling too well by now. I couldn't find rest until I had fixed my problem.Oh okay, and the other keys work?yea, tried everything software/firmware wise without success. It could be the MCU soldering. Might need to add some solder to the pins around the MCU
Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
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thx man. Think we are kind of on our own at this point. What makes me sad is everything else looks perfect, but they are useless w/o a working PCBDamn, sorry dude, I know the feeling too well by now. I couldn't find rest until I had fixed my problem.Oh okay, and the other keys work?yea, tried everything software/firmware wise without success. It could be the MCU soldering. Might need to add some solder to the pins around the MCU
Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
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Hope you succeed
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So many broken PCBs. I'm glad I ordered two. Surely I can get one of them working. If the Premium kits ever ship, that is.
For those with recent issues, did said issues exist before soldering? I'm assuming some yes and some no, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
So many broken PCBs. I'm glad I ordered two. Surely I can get one of them working. If the Premium kits ever ship, that is.I used the hostiles to hold the switches in place, no soldering yet. So I'm 100% sure it's not me that broke it.
For those with recent issues, did said issues exist before soldering? I'm assuming some yes and some no, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
soooo when's that exent replacement pcb run and who's running it? also replacement poly bottom run. thanks.
Considering the quality of the soldering on these boards to date, I'd imagine retouching the solder on the appropriate MCU pin will restore that row's functionality if you have a soldering iron with a fine enough tip, fine enough diameter solder, and a steady enough hand.
If you're not confident in your skills, farm it out cause bridging those pins is hella easy.
FYI if someone does a PCB + plate run I'm in 100%.
I've asked repeatedly for the PCB and plate CAD files to be released to us to no avail, so someone is going to have to take up designing them.
Considering the quality of the soldering on these boards to date, I'd imagine retouching the solder on the appropriate MCU pin will restore that row's functionality if you have a soldering iron with a fine enough tip, fine enough diameter solder, and a steady enough hand.
If you're not confident in your skills, farm it out cause bridging those pins is hella easy.
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.
I tried them, holes are too big and you'd need to solder them in, so at this point just solder the switches since it'll be easier than soldering holtites.
do you have to fill the hole with solder or you just have to make sure it's fixed in the hole (not moving)?
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again! Screws short some switches.
What about some electric tape?I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again! Screws short some switches.
I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...
Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
What about some electric tape?I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again! Screws short some switches.
I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...
Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
What about some electric tape?I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again! Screws short some switches.
I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...
Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
Other than it looks like poop? I suppose it could work in a pinch, or just for testing. Maybe I'll try it. Doesn't seem like a good long-term solution to me though.
What about some electric tape?
Guys, I've been patiently waiting and staying out of this thread with my requests for attention.
The tracking number I have been provided with in December is invalid according to SF Express. Can you please provide a view on where the keyboard I ordered and paid for is?
It's kind of amazing. I figured after the initial LED fiasco the PCBs would start getting better, but somehow the opposite has happened. What the ****? Just what the **** is going on with this group buy?
I guess, like, thanks Yuktsi for being literally the only one actually communicating with us at all, but, jesus christ, you guys seriously need to collective pull your heads out of your asses.
My favorite part of this has been the total abandonment by every single person involved (except, to be fair, Yuktsi). I honestly was kinda hoping that the more I pissed and moaned about the other names attached to this they would come in here and, I dunno, offer some kind of support but goddamn they've impressed even me with their total apathy.
Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
What about some electric tape?
That's what I was planning to try when my set arrives. Washers would probably be better, but eh. Last time I checked the hardware store I had problems finding a plastic washer small enough to work. Maybe I was looking in the wrong area.
Somebody (the Hero of 2018) offered to send me some M2 nylon screws that should take care of the issue. Fingers crossed.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
my dibs>ur dibs :p :pStill no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
Dibs? But really, don't go!
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
I'm in complete agreement. Yuktsi is doing a good job at communicating about the logistics of the group buy, but leadership is sorely lacking from TGR, Aconic, RAMA, and Originative.
I have bought from Sherry before and, ****, he's even sent me stuff for my meetups in Portland. Despite hearing lots of issues previously, I've never had any with his services until now.
I've said this before, but I think it would do the community good to have some sort of statement from the designers and organizers. I don't advocate brigading other threads or badgering them, it should be done on their own accord. Having not done so (and I'm assuming the same into the future), I don't know why anyone would do business with them after this GB.
I'm really hoping for some leadership/resolution/statement here to, at least, salvage the dignity of the GB.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
Dibs? But really, don't go!
yutski, please send my exent order to MaNiFeX.
And thank you to everyone who sent messages, really means a lot. After taking inventory of my collection, this could be trickier than I thought... I may donate most of my boards to a local school and just sell keycaps.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
I've been building toward this conclusion also. Exent was the final straw. I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash. A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards. It isn't worth the stress and heartache.
I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0). It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype. The guy obviously knows what he's doing.
I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground. And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year. But beyond that... I'm over it. Time to move on.
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???Mike nuuuuuu
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???Mike nuuuuuu
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???
I'm in complete agreement. Yuktsi is doing a good job at communicating about the logistics of the group buy, but leadership is sorely lacking from TGR, Aconic, RAMA, and Originative.
I have bought from Sherry before and, ****, he's even sent me stuff for my meetups in Portland. Despite hearing lots of issues previously, I've never had any with his services until now.
I've said this before, but I think it would do the community good to have some sort of statement from the designers and organizers. I don't advocate brigading other threads or badgering them, it should be done on their own accord. Having not done so (and I'm assuming the same into the future), I don't know why anyone would do business with them after this GB.
I'm really hoping for some leadership/resolution/statement here to, at least, salvage the dignity of the GB.
I personally don't fully agree with this. Yes their names are on it, but I believe Juahenza should be the one held accountable. He commissioned the design, he ran the IC and GB, this is HIS gb that he is ignoring. All Rama did was design the case, that's all he is/was responsible for. Sherry arranged the caps/switches, which to my understanding the hold up there, surprisingly enough was due to lack of communication and he also picked up extra kits to help with moq. Yuktsi helped with things and bless him for at least attempting to try and keep us updated, but this is not his gb.
Choosing not to do business with any of them is obviously your choice, but for now, the only one I'm pissed off about is Juahenza.
This GB has been a dumpster fire. That I can 100% agree with. Garbage pcb's, broken bottoms, delay after delay, complete lack of communication and transparency. 100% regret.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
Dibs? But really, don't go!
yutski, please send my exent order to MaNiFeX.
And thank you to everyone who sent messages, really means a lot. After taking inventory of my collection, this could be trickier than I thought... I may donate most of my boards to a local school and just sell keycaps.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
I've been building toward this conclusion also. Exent was the final straw. I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash. A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards. It isn't worth the stress and heartache.
I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0). It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype. The guy obviously knows what he's doing.
I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground. And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year. But beyond that... I'm over it. Time to move on.
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
I've been building toward this conclusion also. Exent was the final straw. I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash. A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards. It isn't worth the stress and heartache.
I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0). It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype. The guy obviously knows what he's doing.
I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground. And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year. But beyond that... I'm over it. Time to move on.
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???
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Q4 2018. Keep an eye on the IC thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.0
Oblotsky is working on some sick renders for me.
Also considering running a second group buy.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
I may not be done with this hobby, but I definitely understand where you guys are coming from. I'm really new to the mechanical keyboards scene, so I haven't been burnt as much as most of you. But I've been a part of four GBs, and I can count on one finger how many of them went smoothly (UK78). And even at that the PCB has issues.
I'll be doing a lot more research if I join more groupbuys for something expensive like keyboards or premium keysets. And that's certainly an "if". I'm pretty content with what I have so I don't expect to be buying much more unless it's something I really want from someone I can really trust.Also considering running a second group buy.
Is it a bit early to ask what you'll be offering? I scrolled through your Stormtrooper GB and was very satisfied with how you ran that.
Thanks man, that means a lot! I tried to keep it positive, constant updates, fun images, etc. And most importantly reasonably priced.
I should probably put up an IC at this point, lol. I hope someone doesn't beat me to this, so SHHHHHH! Mums the word. ;D
I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray. Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like). Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide. N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.
If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini. If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.
Thoughts? I'll post up once I make an interest check. I've got a bit of homework to do. I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark. Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.
I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again. What do you think?
Thoughts? I'll post up once I make an interest check. I've got a bit of homework to do. I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark. Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.
I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again. What do you think?
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
Dibs? But really, don't go!
yutski, please send my exent order to MaNiFeX.
And thank you to everyone who sent messages, really means a lot. After taking inventory of my collection, this could be trickier than I thought... I may donate most of my boards to a local school and just sell keycaps.
Thanks man, that means a lot! I tried to keep it positive, constant updates, fun images, etc. And most importantly reasonably priced.
I should probably put up an IC at this point, lol. I hope someone doesn't beat me to this, so SHHHHHH! Mums the word. ;D
I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray. Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like). Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide. N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.
If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini. If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.
Thoughts? I'll post up once I make an interest check. I've got a bit of homework to do. I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark. Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.
I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again. What do you think?
With you running such a smooth GB, anything will be amazing. :-*
Thoughts? I'll post up once I make an interest check. I've got a bit of homework to do. I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark. Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.
I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again. What do you think?
I don't know the color codes, and I did a little googling but it is hard for me to picture them as a set together just looking at them one at a time between search queries, but I am very interested in affordable, but not poor quality kits, so I am excited to learn more. Recently I have gotten more boards than I have either switches or caps for, so I am looking for good sets of both..
That said one of the Exents I got was a base kit, and while I haven't heard back yet about being able to upgrade the kit to premium I will probably need switches and caps and I am severely short both
I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray. Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like). Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide. N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.
If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini. If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.
Thoughts? I'll post up once I make an interest check. I've got a bit of homework to do. I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark. Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.
I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again. What do you think?
I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray. Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like). Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide. N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.
If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini. If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.
Thoughts? I'll post up once I make an interest check. I've got a bit of homework to do. I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark. Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.
I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again. What do you think?
Nice; I'll stay tune. I'm not sold on the colorway but it sounds very nice. Something I'd probably be interested in if I didn't already have GMK Oblivion and monochrome mods. Maybe the two sets will mix and match well.
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again! Screws short some switches.
I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...
Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Make that three of us.
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Make that three of us.
Make that four of us...
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Make that three of us.
Make that four of us...
I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
What I've gathered is the boards are either coming from the Malaysia postal service or through SF express, but my tracking number from the 27th hasn't shown up on either yet.
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
I got a tracking number Feb 27 but I don't know what service it is for so I can't actually track it. Needless to say it hasn't shown up yet.
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Make that three of us.
Make that four of us...
I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?
Basic kit with aluminum bottom. Got the tracking number but it doesn't show up.That's where I'm at as well. Been a month now... how long is this going to take? Seems nearly everyone is in this boat :'(
Basic kit with aluminum bottom. Got the tracking number but it doesn't show up.That's where I'm at as well. Been a month now... how long is this going to take? Seems nearly everyone is in this boat :'(
Now there's a party boat?!?! Where does it embark from, Hades?
Now there's a party boat?!?! Where does it embark from, Hades?
Pretty sure we've been on this boat for a while. Embarked from purgatory and the captain's taking us the wrong way. Things have been feeling pretty toasty.
Now there's a party boat?!?! Where does it embark from, Hades?
Pretty sure we've been on this boat for a while. Embarked from purgatory and the captain's taking us the wrong way. Things have been feeling pretty toasty.
I think that's just global warming :p
Don't worry, when our boards are delivered and Hell freezes over, it will take the edge off the heat :))
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Make that three of us.
Make that four of us...
I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?
Premium kit here (EU-based), no tracking number provided yet either.
I guess this party is gonna be wild!
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Make that three of us.
Make that four of us...
I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?
Premium kit here (EU-based), no tracking number provided yet either.
I guess this party is gonna be wild!
Seven now and this party is turning in to a riot!
So, I got some news!
This apparently is my board on the way to the shipping office. I hate how long this has taken, I'm still excited to get my hands on it. Looks like Laser will match quite well.
Add me to the list boys. No tracking, no anything. The wait really hasn't bothered me - Can't believe it's been a year though. I just want to know if I will ever see it or if I'm out the money.
Same here. Premium kit, no shipping. I was hopeful when I received a PM reply from Yuktsi the other day after asking if he could ship me my kit minus the caps and switches and stabs and ship those to me whenever OCO finally gets those over to him, but he never replied back again.
Same here. Premium kit, no shipping. I was hopeful when I received a PM reply from Yuktsi the other day after asking if he could ship me my kit minus the caps and switches and stabs and ship those to me whenever OCO finally gets those over to him, but he never replied back again.
Last I heard I'm pretty sure the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago, it'll probably still take a little while to get to the runners because of how far apart they are but yea. Don't think it'd be worth it for them to send over the board without the sets any more, and that's probably why you've not heard back.
They've been saying that for months. Honestly, zero trust in that being true.
Last I heard I'm pretty sure the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago, it'll probably still take a little while to get to the runners because of how far apart they are but yea. Don't think it'd be worth it for them to send over the board without the sets any more, and that's probably why you've not heard back.
Sherry said that like a month and a half ago, correct. That was the only time it was said, and I also have very good reason to believe I'm being told the truth but I suppose we'll have to wait and see. I'm hopeful is all I'm saying, but I absolutely understand and respect the sentiment (especially as someone who bought a premium kit).
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Wouldn't surprise me if OCO accidentally shipped them late, so "the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago" sounds just about right to me. Depending on how he shipped them they could take a few weeks to get to yuktsi, and then a few weeks to get packaged and shipped out to us. If I were an optimist I could possibly see the light at the end of the tunnel. Too bad I'm not an optimist.
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue. I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem. I've put the board away for now. I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now. This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue. I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem. I've put the board away for now. I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now. This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.
Backspace column. Includes Pipe, Enter, Up and Down keys in my layout. I'm guessing that's Column 2 but it's a little confusing.
Not only do those keys NOT REGISTER, but when I plug the board in I get flashing in-switch LEDs in a FLASH-FLASH-PAUSE pattern and no keys function at all, though the device is properly recognized in Windows. I assume this indicates a short and it's a sort of "safe mode" operation. The bottom RGB LEDs don't come on at all.
If I plug the board in with Keymapper running and flash a firmware HEX (any) to it, the flash is successful. In-switch LEDs stop flashing and the bottom LEDs come on, but then the board starts sending an infinite string of rapid-fire inputs I THINK from the Backspace key. That's the limit of troubleshooting I've done so far.
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue. I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem. I've put the board away for now. I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now. This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue. I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem. I've put the board away for now. I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now. This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.
Nylon screws, or nylon washers? I've had one board where I couldn't manage to prevent the screw from shorting it despite using nylon washers, so if you're using them maybe try without the stabs at all just to confirm they are not the issue?
For those who have received their package, how long did you guys get the package after you got the tracking number? Was it always that slow?
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?
Very possible airwaybills are swapped out and tracking doesn't work. I asked yuktsi why mine hasn't been moving yet, and clarified that it has and provided me with an updated tracking number. I'm not really sure if its the case for everyone but it could be.
A month is definitely too long of a wait honestly, even if you are quite a ways away from Malaysia.
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.
**** it. I'm out.
Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.
I just got a message back from Yuktsi, he should have the key caps by today and so the premium kits should head out soon enough now.
He is the true saviour of this GB. He’s run his own GB and probably has a day job but has still made time to reply to messages and bring this back on course.
Here’s hoping there are no more dud PCBs!
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?
Very possible airwaybills are swapped out and tracking doesn't work. I asked yuktsi why mine hasn't been moving yet, and clarified that it has and provided me with an updated tracking number. I'm not really sure if its the case for everyone but it could be.
A month is definitely too long of a wait honestly, even if you are quite a ways away from Malaysia.
Being that I'm from Australia I'm really not that far from Malaysia at all (although I figure that doesn't really dictate how quickly a package will post). But yeah, the number was issued on the 28th of February and according to PayPal it is marked as shipped. However, my number shows "No record found" on POS Malaysia's tracking and nothing's turned up at my doorstep, soo.. :( I've just sent a PM to yuktsi so hopefully some light can be shed on the situation. For curiosity's sake, I had an alu bottom + poly bottom order, no keycaps.
Edit: yuktsi did reply to my PM. Now just awaiting investigation. Good man.
I just got a message back from Yuktsi, he should have the key caps by today and so the premium kits should head out soon enough now.
He is the true saviour of this GB. He’s run his own GB and probably has a day job but has still made time to reply to messages and bring this back on course.
Here’s hoping there are no more dud PCBs!
Received my basic kit with alu bottom yesterday. Dark grey. Too dark.
Received my basic kit with alu bottom yesterday. Dark grey. Too dark.Did you ever get a tracking number that worked?
Glad to hear you've finally got yours, but sad to hear that the grey is too dark for you. From the photos I've seen I can see where you think that. I always mistaken photos of a dark grey Extent as a black Extent.
I ordered a dark grey Exent but later changed my mind and asked Juahenza for black. He said he could change it for me but that was so long ago and now that he's gone I'm not sure what I'll get. Since there isn't much difference I'll probably be happy with the color either way lol.
Did you ever get a tracking number that worked?
Can we get one freaking update from the runners? Like seriously.Yeah I've had a tracking number since February 27th and it still doesn't actually work. I'd love any kind of update.
Can we get one freaking update from the runners? Like seriously.
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Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!
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Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!
Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!
Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!
So far as I can tell the tracking numbers haven't panned out for anyone that has received anything, I wouldn't put much stock in one, your board will likely show up without you having been able to track it
So you never even receive notification it has shipped through paypal or anything? It just shows up?
Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!
So, astonishingly, people are getting their kits? So when can we start bringing up the polycarbonate bottoms again? I have zero hope that this group buy will follow through on its promise to deliver replacement bottoms but, hey, apparently kits have actually been delivered recently, and also I guess pigs are flying, so I might as well ask?Keep me in the loop too!
+1 hereSo, astonishingly, people are getting their kits? So when can we start bringing up the polycarbonate bottoms again? I have zero hope that this group buy will follow through on its promise to deliver replacement bottoms but, hey, apparently kits have actually been delivered recently, and also I guess pigs are flying, so I might as well ask?Keep me in the loop too!
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Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!
So far as I can tell the tracking numbers haven't panned out for anyone that has received anything, I wouldn't put much stock in one, your board will likely show up without you having been able to track it
I'm really hoping mine will be here soon (fellow Portlander!). Tracking not working, no boxes on doorstep... I ordered a basic kit with an aluminum bottom added. I'll be sure to post when I get mine. Glad to hear these are arriving! :thumb: Hoping PCBs are working on arrival.
I'm really hoping mine will be here soon (fellow Portlander!). Tracking not working, no boxes on doorstep... I ordered a basic kit with an aluminum bottom added. I'll be sure to post when I get mine. Glad to hear these are arriving! :thumb: Hoping PCBs are working on arrival.
Also a fellow Portlander, also waiting and have never received tracking or any notice on my premium kit.
Just to clarify (Portlander) I have not received my premium kit and none of my tracking info was checked and may not have worked at all, I have only received my basic kit.
anyone know if it's possible to use costar stabilizers on this ?
I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.
anyone know if it's possible to use costar stabilizers on this ?
I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.
I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.
Great to see kits arriving on this again, haven’t been able to get in contact with anyone involved to check on the questions I posted in this thread, but I’d rather the available time was spent getting things out to people than messaging me anyway
Really looking forward to seeing this in person
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Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Three kits on this page alone.
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Three kits on this page alone.
Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Three kits on this page alone.
Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Three kits on this page alone.
Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?
Yeah i think that's the first in the thread. My switches and keyset ain't here yet, and yuktsi hasn't responded to my discord pm.
Premium kits?
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Three kits on this page alone.
Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?
Yeah i think that's the first in the thread. My switches and keyset ain't here yet, and yuktsi hasn't responded to my discord pm.
I've received nothing for my premium kit and Yuktsi stopped responding to PMs.
Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
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Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
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Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
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And how does that help our situation here?Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
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No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
And how does that help our situation here?Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
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No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
And how does that help our situation here?Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.Just checking in, I see things are the sameEh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
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No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
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Has Oco shipped the premium kit keyset yet? Also who would they even ship the keys too? lol there's no one here.. :blank:
I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
In.
I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.
But he is alive and well.
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
In.
I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.
As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.
Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.
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Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
In.
I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
In.
I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.
As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.
Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.
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Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?
In.
I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.
As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.
Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.
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So the group buy runner has not only abandoned the GB but left the community entirely? Well that’s fantastic news.
Not another Ivan, I hope! :eek:
FYI 910 isn't done shipping yet, think there are some extras and the polycarb version is slated to begin shipping out in the next week or so. yuktsi is a busy boy.
And if Alice provides some extra income to help out with Exent in the long run then maybe it'll be ok.Gotta be careful, that's close to pyramid scheme territory
It's not that bad, at least the boards are made already. Its just that Yuktsi has a lot of his own GB's boards to ship first, there's still a good chance that we will get our stuff.
Finally got my Premium kit (polycarb bottom, brass plate). My friend helped to self collect from one of the guys involved in the GB a couple of weeks ago and assembled it for me. The GMK keycaps have already arrived at yuktsi's place, but im yet to get mine since my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number (more than half of total orders are with gmk keycaps bundled (?) and my order is one of the last).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SDVwI75.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FDpSbgB.jpg)
small crack at one of the screw holes for the metal stand :/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ETvsflG.jpg)
size comparison with norbatouchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/nr44xKu.jpg)
No defect on my PCB or the LEDs. The anodization is excellent, noticeably better than norbauer's. Almost similar to iphone's aluminum anodization. Not sure the exact weight, but the exent feels slightly heavier than norbatouch.
Hopefully the group buy runners can sort the rest of the orders as fast as possible.
Finally got my Premium kit (polycarb bottom, brass plate). My friend helped to self collect from one of the guys involved in the GB a couple of weeks ago and assembled it for me. The GMK keycaps have already arrived at yuktsi's place, but im yet to get mine since my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number (more than half of total orders are with gmk keycaps bundled (?) and my order is one of the last).That looks fantastic.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SDVwI75.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FDpSbgB.jpg)
small crack at one of the screw holes for the metal stand :/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ETvsflG.jpg)
size comparison with norbatouchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/nr44xKu.jpg)
No defect on my PCB or the LEDs. The anodization is excellent, noticeably better than norbauer's. Almost similar to iphone's aluminum anodization. Not sure the exact weight, but the exent feels slightly heavier than norbatouch.
Hopefully the group buy runners can sort the rest of the orders as fast as possible.
my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number
Invoice #:Shipping-024
Anyone got anything?
With a situation like this one, I feel almost guilty having my broken Exent. What a joke of GBWhat do you mean broken? How so?
What a joke of GB
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
Why? Once you have it.. It's still a gorgeous board. People wouldn't be nearly so on tilt about it if it wasn't something we all want
Yeah, you should def just give that pesky board to me when you get it <_< >_>QuoteWhat a joke of GB
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
If you don't want it, I'll be the trash can.QuoteWhat a joke of GB
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
The "I'm so over it I'll literally throw it away or give it to someone for free" comments are so distasteful (unless you're actually going to do it like the person a few pages back did).
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
Why? Once you have it.. It's still a gorgeous board. People wouldn't be nearly so on tilt about it if it wasn't something we all want
it represents everything wrong with this hobby, that's why
I'd probably find myself selling it too
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Thread cleaned up a little bit to remove personal insults, which are against the ToS.
With a situation like this one, I feel almost guilty having my broken Exent. What a joke of GBWhat do you mean broken? How so?
Anyone got anything?
Still waiting for an update on why my February tracking number was and is still a complete dud, so that's a no from me. :thumb:
Me three, tracking number back in February and still no movement.Anyone got anything?
Still waiting for an update on why my February tracking number was and is still a complete dud, so that's a no from me. :thumb:
Same here... If it shipped, it would be here by now. Just left wondering if I will ever see an EXENT on my doorstep. Aluminum Bottom, Basic.
I haven't even gotten my tracking number on my premium kit...
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.
...We are at a point where we are chipping in our own money on this project. Would appreciate a little more patience and understanding, as we will always be around to ensure that all orders are delivered. By the end of the day, I hope it's worthwhile for us to go through all this stresses and hassles.
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.
Yuktsi and I have spoke about the situation on a few occasions (very recently) and the main predicament was that he was basically riding this solo for a while and he's only been able to ship a couple boards a week; be it due to restricted time, lack of access to logistics to move a significant amount of units at a time, funds (which I personally find unlikely) or whatever else.
Seems he's getting some backup starting this week or the next so hopefully things progress in a more meaningful way by then.
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.
Yuktsi and I have spoke about the situation on a few occasions (very recently) and the main predicament was that he was basically riding this solo for a while and he's only been able to ship a couple boards a week; be it due to restricted time, lack of access to logistics to move a significant amount of units at a time, funds (which I personally find unlikely) or whatever else.
Seems he's getting some backup starting this week or the next so hopefully things progress in a more meaningful way by then.
Might be off topic, but I just want to thank you immensely for providing insight/updates when possible. Really helps keep me sane(ish).
Thanks for the news Vigrith. Yuktsi is in Malaysia, correct? Is Juahenza there as well? It seems prudent to whomever is now left running EXENT to have a 'packing party' and just put in one last effort to close out the GB.
Thanks all who are involved in getting this moving!
Might be off topic, but I just want to thank you immensely for providing insight/updates when possible. Really helps keep me sane(ish).Thanks for the news Vigrith. Yuktsi is in Malaysia, correct? Is Juahenza there as well? It seems prudent to whomever is now left running EXENT to have a 'packing party' and just put in one last effort to close out the GB.
Thanks all who are involved in getting this moving!
It's easier to do so as an "outsider" compared to someone responsible for the project because I don't get bombarded with questions and complaints (and/or insults) like they would. I try to not get super involved because I don't want to get people too riled up on either side (be it for good or for bad) but I figure if I can share some insight, many of you guys deserve to be in the know too.
Juahenza is in Malaysia too yea, I'm hoping with him being back to ship/help Yuktsi we get to see some progress with the remaining aluminium bottom kits as well as premiums.
I have a tracking number, but it's not functioning (No record error). Do you think it's worth PMing Yuktsi, or should I just wait? I don't want to take up time that could be used for packing/shipping.
Received an update regarding the shipping of my Exent. I've been issued a new tracking number which does have a record. It appears Vigrith is likely right, in that yuktsi is working to complete the groupbuy even if he is only able to send out just one or two boards a week.
I hope that bodes well for the rest of you with dud tracking. The expected arrival is next week so I'll update when I receive it.
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.Did you get ever get a tracking number?
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.Did you get ever get a tracking number?
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
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Received an update regarding the shipping of my Exent. I've been issued a new tracking number which does have a record. It appears Vigrith is likely right, in that yuktsi is working to complete the groupbuy even if he is only able to send out just one or two boards a week.
I hope that bodes well for the rest of you with dud tracking. The expected arrival is next week so I'll update when I receive it.
This is what happened with mine, he initially wondered why the tracking number wasn't working because i asked. They used different waybills. Hopefully the others get theirs settled soon.
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.
Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Whoa. I know people keep praising the anodization of this board, but the way the light is hitting it in your photos... I finally believe the hype.
Does anyone know if whoever is running the GB has the mod switches on hand for premium orders or that another mystery?
That looks stunning!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uc5vbd2.jpg)
Finished it up this morning. It's a dream to type on :)
My only actual complaint so far (besides the delays) is that the stabilisers weren't sent. I think I'm not the first to be missing stabilisers either. I can't build the board without stabs as they need to go on first, so.. I guess I'll just order some separately so I can get on with it.I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.
Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p
I just saw some transparent screw in stabalizers on MD for like $35
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.
Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p
Cherry produces the screw-in stabs which GMK then resells. They're the same physical items. Much better value than Zealstabs unless you must have transparent stabs
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.
Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p
Cherry produces the screw-in stabs which GMK then resells. They're the same physical items. Much better value than Zealstabs unless you must have transparent stabs
You say this like I haven't ordered 270 sets from GMK ;)
It would be nice to know how many orders were sent/received compared to total orders.
Who else should I contact if no one reply?
Have to move and just pm’ed yuktsi and juahenza.
Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
Or I'll lose it :(
Who else should I contact if no one reply?
Received both of my EXENTs today (in USA via UPS from SF Express): space gray premium, and basic pink, both polycarbonate bottoms. Anodizing job on both is great, there is one tiny nick in the pink one that you can only see if you know where to look for it. GMK set also looks good at a glance, although will unwrap and note any issues once I get to building these. Also received my Mod switches which also seem fine. No stabilizers with either case, but at this point the $12 is a sunk cost that I'm not going to spend a lot of effort worrying about. Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.
All in all, happy to finally receive these after 1+ year. For those still waiting, I recommend reaching out to Yuktsi via PM and having some patience. Took a little over a week for him to get me sorted out, but once I got updated tracking numbers I did not have any issues. Now the wait for GMK Laser begins in earnest...
Received both of my EXENTs today (in USA via UPS from SF Express): space gray premium, and basic pink, both polycarbonate bottoms. Anodizing job on both is great, there is one tiny nick in the pink one that you can only see if you know where to look for it. GMK set also looks good at a glance, although will unwrap and note any issues once I get to building these. Also received my Mod switches which also seem fine. No stabilizers with either case, but at this point the $12 is a sunk cost that I'm not going to spend a lot of effort worrying about. Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.
All in all, happy to finally receive these after 1+ year. For those still waiting, I recommend reaching out to Yuktsi via PM and having some patience. Took a little over a week for him to get me sorted out, but once I got updated tracking numbers I did not have any issues. Now the wait for GMK Laser begins in earnest...
Whoa, a premium kit in the USA! Sounds pretty similar to my order. That makes me excited. Good to know I shouldn't be expecting my stabilizers. I was having second thoughts on using the screw-in stabilizers anyway.
Do you happen to know what your order number was? It should look something like "Invoice ID Shipping - 024" on your invoice.
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.
Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?
I had to use https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper and followed instructions there, default had no keys mapped.
Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.How exactly does one go about testing the PCB before soldering switches in, or is that possible? Asking for a friend... ;)
How exactly does one go about testing the PCB before soldering switches in, or is that possible? Asking for a friend... ;)
(really just for me in case the sarcasm is lost :p )
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.
Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?
From what I've read your best bet is PM'ing Yuktsi. Unfortunately it might take him a while to respond, and he might miss or forget your PM.
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?
From what I've read your best bet is PM'ing Yuktsi. Unfortunately it might take him a while to respond, and he might miss or forget your PM.
Yuktsi has stopped responding to my messages.
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.
Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.
Haven't checked this GB in a couple months, any update on replacements for cracked poly bottoms?
Haven't checked this GB in a couple months, any update on replacements for cracked poly bottoms?
I believe they haven't been talked about since January 2nd. As long as you've filled out the google form I think that's all that can be done for now. Replacement bottoms won't be worked on until all shipments are finished, so at this rate you still have a ways to go.
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??
No, it closed months ago
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??
First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.
First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??
Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??
No, it closed months ago
Oh. thanks for that.I thought it still alive since the google form is there.
First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.
This is really helpful Traveler, thanks! I just got a PCB made and shipped and was trying to think of the best way, once all of the components are soldered on, I could test the board without soldering in switches.
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks
GB ended in 2016 lol. Maybe check https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/. Boards are still trickling out..
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.
Board is huge, almost same as my full layout ducky3. Anod is super nice as everyone mentioned it is.
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.
Board is huge, almost same as my full layout ducky3. Anod is super nice as everyone mentioned it is.
Congrats! What country you in?
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.
There is no way to count it all as they are grouped by boxes per parts and not assembled boards. there are some packed boards too that are waiting to be shipped. i guess i dont have much good news but all i can say is that they are coming and will be shipped eventually.just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.
Curious, how many boards did you see? Just thought I'd use that as a rough estimate of when my board might be shipped lol.
Did you happen to see a pile of replacement acrylic bottoms?sorry man, i am not sure if those are replacements or for remaining orders.
(Yuktsi) has his own Alice GB he's been handling last couple weeks, he had to put up the threads, organise everything, go through entries, verify them, schedule machining, pick and order materials, etc so surely it's understandable that he hasn't been able to get around to shipping things himself and/or updating us here.
I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack
...but from what I can tell he is paying for things out of pocket now, so Exent will only be moving forward as long as someone can afford to move boards. And if Alice provides some extra income to help out with Exent in the long run then maybe it'll be ok.
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.
It would be nice to know how many orders were sent/received compared to total orders.
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?
I had to use https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper and followed instructions there, default had no keys mapped.
...i guess i dont have much good news but all i can say is that they are coming and will be shipped eventually.
Guys, I need some help with my PCB, unfortunately my _- , [{ , ;: , / ? \ and Left arrow column is not working at all and does not show up on Bootmapper. Should I touch up some pins on the MCU, if so any pointers about which ones would be really appreciated.
Are you using screw-in stabs? I believe a workaround was discussed a few pages back.
Are you using screw-in stabs? I believe a workaround was discussed a few pages back.
Nope, the board is still fully unbuilt and I'm just using a tweezer and holtites to test it. The whole column is unresponsive unfortunately.
There are a couple TGR GBs lined up over the next few months, obviously I can't say how the revenue will be utilised, but earning some extra $ can't hurt at this point.
I got a PM from Yuktsi out of the blue saying my Exent had been picked up this morning. He gave me a new tracking number too.
I got a PM from Yuktsi out of the blue saying my Exent had been picked up this morning. He gave me a new tracking number too.
I also just received an email from Yuktsi saying my Exent had been picked up as well and got a tracking number. (!!)
Still nothing yet for me. Hopefully soon...Me either, gray premium kit
I also just received an email from Yuktsi saying my Exent had been picked up as well and got a tracking number. (!!)
Could you share the kit whether is premium or basic ?
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)
Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.
My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios. Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/
*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)
Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.
My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios. Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/
*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*
Wait, are those the only caps that comes with the premium sets?
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)
Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.
My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios. Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/
*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*
Wait, are those the only caps that comes with the premium sets?
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.
Funny too because the mockups showing the different color options have a mocked up version of the keycaps which include a stepped caps lock.
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.
Funny too because the mockups showing the different color options have a mocked up version of the keycaps which include a stepped caps lock.
I dun goofed and assumed that this has stepped caps as well. Must've missed out on an update or two some time back about the keyset specifically.
Oh well...
This GB just keeps getting better and better..
This GB just keeps getting better and better..
What do you mean? The keys offered were and are shown on the first page, first post, 3 or something images down. If people didn't realise it didn't cover every possible layout that's entirely on them, it's understandable one may undergo such a lapse but out of everything you can rightfully complain about regarding the way this was handled, the contents of the GMK set are absolutely not it. Does anyone see a stepped caps lock? No. Same goes for the other "missing" keys.
I think you’re on a different page, tonally, than we are—we were just saying it’s silly that the keycaps set doesn’t cover the layouts the board can do (which I think is true), not they they’re in the wrong for doing so or that we were mislead.
My comment about the stepped capslock was just trying to make light of the fact that all the mockups of the keyboard and GMK set show it.
I think you’re on a different page, tonally, than we are—we were just saying it’s silly that the keycaps set doesn’t cover the layouts the board can do (which I think is true), not they they’re in the wrong for doing so or that we were mislead.
My comment about the stepped capslock was just trying to make light of the fact that all the mockups of the keyboard and GMK set show it.
I understood your comment as well as everyone else's, I was specifically referring to gumeraser apparently sounding surprised that this is the case - lack of compatibility the set suffers from (which I agree is bad by design) was discussed both during IC as well as at least once early on the GB before it ended, which is why I'm kinda confused that someone says "wow as if this could be even worse lmao".
I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?
I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?
Would also like to know as mine will be blue as well .. (I have shipping no. 005)
According to the tracking my blue one is arriving today. I'll post some pictures later tonight.I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?
Would also like to know as mine will be blue as well .. (I have shipping no. 005)
Great news, hope mine order get the tracking number soon! My invoice number is 0189 though. ;D. Godspeed to you guys!
Blue Exent arrived today and despite the wait overall I'm pleased. The blue anodizing looks top notch, though a little more teal than expected. The silver bottom has a couple of dings (shown in the close up pictures) and some striations all the way across but since it's the bottom I'm not overly concerned.
Blue Exent arrived today and despite the wait overall I'm pleased. The blue anodizing looks top notch, though a little more teal than expected. The silver bottom has a couple of dings (shown in the close up pictures) and some striations all the way across but since it's the bottom I'm not overly concerned.
As with just about everyone else I didn't get the stabilizers I order but I'm not going to lose any sleep over them.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/df26dd0236edd57d7634bb4dd0801c7c.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/b8519c1048212af4923a8e1bdc67cf6f.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/a63c8a35a654bd8ee3a910e4d70cd82e.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/300e1565eaab5ed4e5c24c87c285dfdd.jpg)
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OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
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God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
****ing
God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.
Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
****ing
God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
****ing
God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Same for my order if you have anything specific to share - hopefully this is the last flurry?Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
****ing
God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Thanks for checking in Yuksti! Seems like shipping has ramped up. Thanks for all you're doing to keep this GB moving. Still no movement on my order from what I can tell (feel free to PM me if it's shipped and I missed something). Take care and good luck finishing this GB up!
Hi Yuktsi, any updates on replacement polycarbonate bottoms?Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
****ing
God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.OhI really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
My
****ing
God
I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet
Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Can’t believe I’m finally saying this: My Exent arrived today. Premium kit, gray. No cracks in bottom, all LEDs work and no other PCB issues I could find. Finish on the gray looks great, glad they redid them. Looking forward to building it on a stream soon!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/dc625294b041b4f4af49542bab563522.jpg)
Just paid my 50 bucks customs bill for this... Fingers cross that there are no cracks or PCB issues either
Just paid my 50 bucks customs bill for this... Fingers cross that there are no cracks or PCB issues either
Was that with the under-declare/gift option ticked or naw?
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither.
Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???
Good lord. Imbeciles.
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither.
Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???
Good lord. Imbeciles.
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither.
Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???
Good lord. Imbeciles.
You are an exceedingly unpleasant presence on this forum.
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.
The non-working keys, outlined in red:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.
The non-working keys, outlined in red:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)
YAAAAY! GROUP SHAMING! LET'S ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE INSULTED SOMEONE ELSE!
Jerks.
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.
The non-working keys, outlined in red:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)
I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)
It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.
Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.
YAAAAY! GROUP SHAMING! LET'S ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE INSULTED SOMEONE ELSE!
Jerks.
I was with you in sentiment in your original comment about the missing PCB, right up until you insulted someone else.
Voice your displeasure or disapproval, but leave the insults out please. I suspect that's probably the reason for the backlash you're experiencing.
As for the missing orders, you're right of course that's not really e acceptable, no matter which way you slice it, especially since incorrect orders have been a persistent issue ever since they started shipping. There should have been plenty of time to get that sorted out and procedures changed so incorrect or missing orders no longer is a problem.
It's not what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.
I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.
Then why do you continue to participate in it?
Then why do you continue to participate in it?
My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though. :thumb:
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.
The non-working keys, outlined in red:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)
I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)
It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.
Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.
My Hero <3
Got the board working, will post pics later today!
YAAAAY! GROUP SHAMING! LET'S ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE INSULTED SOMEONE ELSE!
Jerks.
I was with you in sentiment in your original comment about the missing PCB, right up until you insulted someone else.
Voice your displeasure or disapproval, but leave the insults out please. I suspect that's probably the reason for the backlash you're experiencing.
As for the missing orders, you're right of course that's not really e acceptable, no matter which way you slice it, especially since incorrect orders have been a persistent issue ever since they started shipping. There should have been plenty of time to get that sorted out and procedures changed so incorrect or missing orders no longer is a problem.
It's not what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
Well, that the group buy leaders - whoever they are at this point - forgot to ship you a PCB makes them, objectively, imbeciles, particularly given their behavior since this buy began. Might be forgivable if this were one mistake on a list of, like, two, but we all know that's not the case.
As for everyone else who enjoy unprompted insulting of me so much, I just want to point out that I expressed deep concern over the state of this group buy literally (almost) a year ago, and no one listened. And then I was the first (I think?) to get a cracked PCB, and it was suggested that I broke it myself and was looking for a quick buck.
I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.
Then why do you continue to participate in it?
My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though. :thumb:
Then why do you continue to participate in it?
My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though. :thumb:
He can wait silently like an adult though, not lash out like a child. I think that's really all anyone is saying.
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)
In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built... >:D
Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.
Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)
In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built... >:D
Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.
Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.
The non-working keys, outlined in red:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)
I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)
It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.
Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.
My Hero <3
Got the board working, will post pics later today!
Can confirm. I just tested every single set of pads with a tweezers after soldering pin 43 on the microcontroller and my PCB is now fully operational. Thanks Cerasis!
So I see I can still access the google form are there extras for order? If not is there plans on a R2 in the somewhat not-so-far-away future?
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)
In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built... >:D
Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.
Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)
What's the bandwidth widget thing in your dock?
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:Code: [Select]05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).
Overall pretty happy.
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:Code: [Select]05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).
Overall pretty happy.
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:Code: [Select]05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).
Overall pretty happy.
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
A bit clearer pic i hopeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)
I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
A bit clearer pic i hopeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)
I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
If i remember correctly, only the upper left pin needs soldering. That's for the z row.
Edit: Board is beautiful. That color combo. :thumb:
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
A bit clearer pic i hopeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)
I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
If i remember correctly, only the upper left pin needs soldering. That's for the z row.
Edit: Board is beautiful. That color combo. :thumb:
I was thinking the same thing, "only the upper left pin needs soldering". According to the diagram that was posted a few comments above those middle pins don't do anything, so they may not need soldering.
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:Code: [Select]05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).
Overall pretty happy.
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
A bit clearer pic i hopeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)
I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Nice pic. I wonder if I could be having a similar problem.
I will check mine tonight when I finally go pick it up from where I had it shipped. I suspect they were unused pins that were intentionally left unsoldered
Do test the PCB first before reflowing the pins.Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:Code: [Select]05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).
Overall pretty happy.
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
A bit clearer pic i hopeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)
I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Finally got mine! This thing looks snazzy. Packing worked well, and nothing was damanged in shipment. No stabs, but that's no surprise.
Now that I've got this thing, I'll be starting another thread on the ortho plate and PCB package, if anyone is still interested in that. I know I am!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180609/718760a1a9feafe34b7d31d965a22222.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180609/e747d781b1fd3718737dc28f763b1c84.jpg)
Finally got mine! This thing looks snazzy. Packing worked well, and nothing was damanged in shipment. No stabs, but that's no surprise.
Now that I've got this thing, I'll be starting another thread on the ortho plate and PCB package, if anyone is still interested in that. I know I am!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180609/718760a1a9feafe34b7d31d965a22222.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180609/e747d781b1fd3718737dc28f763b1c84.jpg)
I spy with my little eye a Rama M4a in the corner :)
And yes still interested in the ortho PCB :thumb:
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects
Still nothing here, not a notification,email or any other form of communication in regards to my premium order.
Id love an update.
Ok, finally got around to getting a pic of the dark grey and black next to each other. In person I feel like the dark grey reads much darker than it looks in person and at a glance I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart, but lit up with a bright cool tone on my bench the difference seems much greater. No stabs, haven’t counted screws, but annodization is flawlessand polycarb is in perfect condition. Haven’t tested the PCB’s yet either.
I do gotta say though after the M65-A’s polished brass plate the matte brass plate on this looks kindof bland. I almost like the silver more.
Edit: One PCB is perfect, one has issues.
Are those annodization splotches, or something else on the top housing? (left hand side most noticeable)
Ok, finally got around to getting a pic of the dark grey and black next to each other. In person I feel like the dark grey reads much darker than it looks in person and at a glance I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart, but lit up with a bright cool tone on my bench the difference seems much greater. No stabs, haven’t counted screws, but annodization is flawlessand polycarb is in perfect condition. Haven’t tested the PCB’s yet either.
I do gotta say though after the M65-A’s polished brass plate the matte brass plate on this looks kindof bland. I almost like the silver more.
Edit: One PCB is perfect, one has issues.
Are those annodization splotches, or something else on the top housing? (left hand side most noticeable)
Those look like handprints to me.
Those look like handprints to me.
Yeah, just my oily hands
cool cool, thought maybe that was it
Is there a guide in here for fixing this or can someone suggest how to fix this? Cheers guys :)
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:Code: [Select]05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AMItem delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AMItem arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AMItem en route to IRELANDMYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PMConsignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AMConsignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PMConsignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PMItem processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PMItem posted over the counter Puchong POShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).
Overall pretty happy.
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)
Congrat and thank you for reply
A bit clearer pic i hopeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)
I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Is there a guide in here for fixing this or can someone suggest how to fix this? Cheers guys :)
See this:
Edit 2:
Just plugged it back in after testing with the multimeter and now row 11 is constantly active. Just opened notepad and was greeted with spam of "4rfc" over and over.
Got my board!!
Edit 2:
Just plugged it back in after testing with the multimeter and now row 11 is constantly active. Just opened notepad and was greeted with spam of "4rfc" over and over.
Congrats on the fix! Hope that works well for you longterm. I'd be screwed if I had to do something like that. I have no knowledge or experience with wiring and tracing routes.
I've messaged yuktsi about buying another PCB because this is beyond me now hahah. Doing patch fixes like this shouldn't be necessary in the first place :(
I got more problems guys, this time with the switch LED's...
Anyone interested in buying my Exent? Black case, Cracked poly bottom and questionable PCB...
Anyone interested in buying my Exent?
Black case, Cracked poly bottom and questionable PCB. Would be willing to let it go for a pretty low price.
Just sick of waiting on Juahenza and Yuktsi. Yuktsi won't even answer my PMs and I'm not going to wait another year
to have a fully functioning keyboard.
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.Same here
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Got a request for anyone with a pcb in easy reach. I'm pretty sure my pcb is missing three resistors. In the first picture I've outlined where on the pcb they seem to be missing from, the second picture is a closeup of where one isn't. If your pcb does have a resistor here and you can tell me what it's value is I will be eternally grateful.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/foDaKpL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d2GgbMp.jpg)
My build at work:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QLOO8xr.jpg)
Still can't get the damn thing back into bootloader mode. Anyone know which pads to short? Left CTRL stopped working after I flashed it. :confused:
Thanks!
Got a request for anyone with a pcb in easy reach. I'm pretty sure my pcb is missing three resistors. In the first picture I've outlined where on the pcb they seem to be missing from, the second picture is a closeup of where one isn't. If your pcb does have a resistor here and you can tell me what it's value is I will be eternally grateful.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/foDaKpL.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d2GgbMp.jpg)
Your close up picture looks like my board does. I don't see transistors/resistors on those pads... Which is weird. I've got it in a fairly functioning state, so I imagine this is by design.
Unfortunately, I can't get the damn thing to load into bootload mode after I initially flashed the controller. Does anyone know which pads to use to throw this into bootload mode?
There were some talks about the ICSP01 pads being shorted to force into bootloader. Anyone have any success with that?
My build at work:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QLOO8xr.jpg)
Anyone interested in a premium kit (grey)? I have paid $355 and willing to let go at $300.
Anyone interested in a premium kit (grey)? I have paid $355 and willing to let go at $300.
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?
Can most of the broken PCBs be easily fixed? Just reflowing or it is more severe than that?
Can most of the broken PCBs be easily fixed? Just reflowing or it is more severe than that?
Some of it is that simple but a lot of the issues require adding solder to some of the pins on the microcontroller. If you aren't careful you can accidentally bridge connections between pins and make a huge mess.
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?
No word yet. Shipping has also not concluded.
I'm becoming really worried now that everyone seems to have received their kit. Is there kits been sent out on a regular basis?
I've not received any updates and no one is responding to my emails either...
but truth is they are already entangled like romeo and juliet.
Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.
Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.
Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.
I got some tracking info as well, but haven't been able to track it. It says "Aramex/UPS," but the aramex.com site doesn't seem to know it exists.
Anyone know if that's typical or if I'm using the wrong site?
Miracles do happen.My lawdShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Suh2IZT.jpg)
Thanks again yuktsi and weewee <3
Anyone noticed that they ****ed up on the split spacebar keys?
https://i.imgur.com/iqTRpO5.jpg
The original render shows a space bar kit without any legends but the actual set comes labeled with "shift". I kinda wanted mine without labels. not a big deal since i already have a decent split spacebars kit ready but this wasn't what was advertised. Asides from that i still haven't received my keyboard. Hopefully i get mine soon and it's just slow because premium kits are being shipped last.
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.
<3
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?
I think that's a one-off issue, my backspace is perfectly fine as are all my other keys from the set. Not sure how much luck you're gonna have getting a replacement one, though, since this set was so limited.
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mEdRWdp.jpg)
it's very obvious.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/y1n7JTt.jpg)
Close lookingShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KQjDffC.jpg)
The switch is box white.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jRZyUDf.jpg)
I use HF origin to prove that the switch is no problem.
https://imgur.com/a/MNNklGF
Could I change the Backspace for a new one?
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mEdRWdp.jpg)
it's very obvious.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/y1n7JTt.jpg)
Close lookingShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KQjDffC.jpg)
The switch is box white.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jRZyUDf.jpg)
I use HF origin to prove that the switch is no problem.
https://imgur.com/a/MNNklGF
Could I change the Backspace for a new one?
I wonder if you could try to contact GMK directly
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.
<3
Same here. Switzerland
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.Same here, in US with premium grey. PM'd Yuktsi like a month ago just asking if there' an update and provided my order number. No reply. Wish I could just be assured that it's coming and generally when.
<3
still nothing here, i received a tracking number that doesn't work, been 3 weeks since i got the tracking number it hasn't been activated if that's the situation.
hope to hear an update and hope to receive the keyboard premium kit before the 2 year mark.
Successfully built the Exent this weekend. No issues with the PCB. LED's worked and all keys are functional. Used Cherry snap-in stabs and 67g Zealios. Looks and types fantastic.
Here's a little album:
https://imgur.com/a/6DyD2gy
Successfully built the Exent this weekend. No issues with the PCB. LED's worked and all keys are functional. Used Cherry snap-in stabs and 67g Zealios. Looks and types fantastic.
Here's a little album:
https://imgur.com/a/6DyD2gy
So, I'd pretty much checked out of this GB, as around 8 or 9 months ago I just sort of gave up and figured it wouldn't actually happen, writing off everything as a loss. As it appears things are happening, I was curious who I can message to double-check if my two premium kits really do exist, and if so how to get a tracking number.
I appreciate any help.
So, I'd pretty much checked out of this GB, as around 8 or 9 months ago I just sort of gave up and figured it wouldn't actually happen, writing off everything as a loss. As it appears things are happening, I was curious who I can message to double-check if my two premium kits really do exist, and if so how to get a tracking number.
I appreciate any help.
Send a PM to yuktsi and hope that you receive a reply within a month, pretty much. He is fulfilling orders, just at a snail's pace.
Is there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.PMed
He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
Hey Yuktsi, is there anyway to get some info on an order? I have it shipping to what is now an old address which is fine I can pick it up but I just need to know when. PM'd a while ago and never heard backIs there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.PMed
He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
Is this board still available for order?? The form isn't closed yet.
Hi Yuktsi, I had already Pm'd about a week ago. Just wondering what the latest is on the remaining orders. Thanks as always.Is there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.PMed
He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.
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Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Someone share this earlier but not sure if this is what u want.
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Thanks I appreciate it!I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.
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You can buy any PCB mount stabilizers. It's recommended to go with GMK Screw In Stabilizers.
Thanks I appreciate it!I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.
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You can buy any PCB mount stabilizers. It's recommended to go with GMK Screw In Stabilizers.
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Nevermind, figured that the board ships without firmware. Still having issues with select keys mainly: 2 W S and Z not registering. seems odd to be an MCU issue when its not the entire column but select ones from it. Any advice?
I may be a fool but, does someone know anything about replacement bottoms? Is people still waiting for their orders?
My Exent arrived here in Ireland today, a blue one with silver alu bottom. I didn't get charged any customs fees; it was marked as a gift and the insured value was put down as €100, €40 of which was the shipping cost.
I'm like 90% sure I didn't order any extra stabs or PCB or anything, and didn't receive any either. Everything was very well packaged with lots of packing foam, and the steel foot was detached even though there is zero chance of an alu bottom cracking.
As others have said the anodising quality is amazing. The board is also very heavy, it's about 2.5kg with the alu bottom and steel foot.
I was able to get the PCB working with bootmapper with Catweewee's guide. I hope to get QMK running on the PCB using this port for ps2avrGB PCBs (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). If I succeed I'll probably make a guide if anyone else wants to do the same ;D
I haven't put the board together yet, but I put some random switches in the plate/PCB and put on some keycaps to see what it would look like.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0pf546m.jpg)
I was worried at first that the board would feel and sound really inconsistent given there are only four screws holding on the plate, two at either end. However it turns out the mounts for the bottom housing actually sit slightly below the edge of the plate, so the bottom housing is in contact with the plate rather than the top housing. I guess this makes the Exent sandwich mount rather than top mount.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q15ZdiY.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qqGEMkN.jpg)
One thing I did notice is that my plate doesn't have the little extra cut out to ensure the stab wire doesn't hit the plate for the 7u stab. In my case the stab wire just doesn't hit the plate, so it makes little difference to me anyway.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cJnoh8O.jpg)
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
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Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
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You shouldn’t give up quite yet.
It took me ages to fix mine too. First some rows were unresponsive because my stab screws were screwed in too much. Then somehow my PCB was not recognised by my pc anymore.
I had nearly given up. Windows was giving me unrecognised device notifications and even that only once in a blue moon. Most of the time it didn’t say anything.
I reinstalled the usb drivers and tried flashing the firmware. The first five times when i managed to flash it I got no response and it was gone after.
Somehow after numerous tries the firmware stayed and it was stable.
Finally I was able to push my key mapping onto the device and it now works fine.
It was an absolute nightmare but I’m glad I didn’t give up. You shouldn’t either. You can do it.
Here some links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6m98fc/kbd75_device_not_recognized/
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Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
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the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?
following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.
any help would be appreciated.
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalkthe catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?
following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.
any help would be appreciated.
I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.
I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS.
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.
I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.
My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.
Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
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Did you ever get this working with QMK? I am having some trouble with bootmapper client on macOS.
To put the board into bootloader mode you hold backspace (or the left split backspace key if you use split backspace) while plugging it in. I think the left ctrl is a mistake in catweewee's guide (it is left ctrl for a lot of other ps2avrGB boards but not the Exent). Not sure if it'll fix your problem though
...
Anyone willing to help me troubleshoot what is wrong with my board? Having a hard time figuring out what I am doing wrong.PMed.
I've come to the conclusion something is wrong with my PCB. Anyone who had a lot of PCB issues have any troubleshooting steps I can take?
I am afraid you will need Windows if you are using the 2016 Macbook or newer. Here's my keymap file in case anyone needs it.Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalkthe catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?
following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.
any help would be appreciated.
I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.
I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS.
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.
I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.
My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.
Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
MoreUnfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalkthe catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?
following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.
any help would be appreciated.
I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.
I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS.
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.
I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.
My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.
Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
To put the board into bootloader mode you hold backspace (or the left split backspace key if you use split backspace) while plugging it in. I think the left ctrl is a mistake in catweewee's guide (it is left ctrl for a lot of other ps2avrGB boards but not the Exent). Not sure if it'll fix your problem though...
Did you ever get this working with QMK? I am having some trouble with bootmapper client on macOS.
Mine's sort-of working with QMK, but it still needs a bit more work. I'll post a guide here if/when it's properly working.
MoreI am afraid you will need Windows if you are using the 2016 Macbook or newer. Here's my keymap file in case anyone needs it.Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...
Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.
TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalkthe catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?
following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.
any help would be appreciated.
I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.
I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS.
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.
I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.
My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.
Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ippylkaswwnyswv/Exent_keymap_gb_20180922152011.hex?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ippylkaswwnyswv/Exent_keymap_gb_20180922152011.hex?dl=0)
Open Bootmapper Client > hit "Load .hex/ .hex > select the file above > check "Reboot after uploading" > hit upload
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.
I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).
https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.
I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).
https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper
So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.
I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).
https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper
So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.
yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.
I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).
https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper
So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.
yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)
bootmapper gets stuck on processing... message while uploading the keymap exent file.
i have updated to the latest firmware and the latest boot mapper.
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.
I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).
https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper
So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.
yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)
bootmapper gets stuck on processing... message while uploading the keymap exent file.
i have updated to the latest firmware and the latest boot mapper.
What happens when you download the keymap from the PCB after 'firm up' of the firmware?
What I did was just remap the keys myself instead of using Yuktsi's keymap as I have a UK ISO layout. On Upload this works every time. If this still doesn't quite work, I have uploaded my keymap (Exent_keymap_gb_SM.hex.zip) to the github. Try that as well.
Same here waiting for my kit or any information about my order
Why is the order form still live? Are orders still going... 2 years later?
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Why is the order form still live? Are orders still going... 2 years later?
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It definitely shouldn't be. The OP has been MIA for a long time and has not been maintaining this thread. I will edit out the order form link.
Finally rolled in! Had to replace 4 of the ws2812s to get the LEDs working, as well as additional paste/solder on the mc (pcb assembly is definitely a mess per everyone else) but everything works. Thanks to sachin for the updated guide, re-flashed the hex, all the keys did show as BAD (no pre-configured keymap, but uploading the one from the repo worked just fine).
Now I have to find where I put the keycaps I was going to put on this.
Many thanks to Yuktsi for picking up the pieces on this buy.
Finally rolled in! Had to replace 4 of the ws2812s to get the LEDs working, as well as additional paste/solder on the mc (pcb assembly is definitely a mess per everyone else) but everything works. Thanks to sachin for the updated guide, re-flashed the hex, all the keys did show as BAD (no pre-configured keymap, but uploading the one from the repo worked just fine).
Now I have to find where I put the keycaps I was going to put on this.
Many thanks to Yuktsi for picking up the pieces on this buy.
Ah, the silver one is gorgeous. Great to see it fully functional!
I need to track down an unused plate from someone in here. I want to get a batch of them cut, but I need one that isn't in a board and I am too lazy to desolder my grand new r/mm find. Anyone have one they are willing to sell?It’s moving but slowly. We have <20 orders more boards to ship now. Hopefully can be done ASAP.
Any word on whether all the original GB orders have shipped? Still eagerly waiting on a Silver Premium Kit.
Any word on whether all the original GB orders have shipped? Still eagerly waiting on a Silver Premium Kit.
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.
I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.
I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.
Doesn't seem to be the issue.
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.
I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.
Doesn't seem to be the issue.
I had this issue on a previous keyboard (not an Exent), and the problem was that a slightly misaligned diode needed to be resoldered. When I was looking at the diodes it wasn't very obvious at all, as the misalignment was very minor, so I felt like I was guessing. Turned out to be right.
Looking for an aluminum bottom. If anyone has an extra one, pls hit me up.
Day 1068......
Still empty handed......
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I told Yuktsi that all i wanted was a complete kit and that i was willing to put extra money to cover for shipping/manufacturing of a polycarbonate bottom just so that i could get one.
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So who do i have to talk to so i can find out more about replacement bottoms or if that is happening at all anymore?
Yeah my Exent was going fine and then the PCB died all of a sudden. Contacted Yuktsi and he replied to me once but hasn't responded since. Dunno what to do, big stupid expensive paperweight I have now.
If they released the PCB files I would literally just have my own made.
Yeah my Exent was going fine and then the PCB died all of a sudden. Contacted Yuktsi and he replied to me once but hasn't responded since. Dunno what to do, big stupid expensive paperweight I have now.
If they released the PCB files I would literally just have my own made.
Zeal's Zephyr PCB, of which there are some available on his site right now, fits great!
Zeal65 PCB has RGB LEDs. Are you sure it fits your exent?
According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.
According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.
Those LEDs are under PCB and they are very bright. I am sure Zeal's PCB would have similar underglow effect.
( https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Zeal65_PCB3.jpg )
[/youtube]Zeal65 PCB has RGB LEDs. Are you sure it fits your exent?
According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.
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I told Yuktsi that all i wanted was a complete kit and that i was willing to put extra money to cover for shipping/manufacturing of a polycarbonate bottom just so that i could get one.
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So who do i have to talk to so i can find out more about replacement bottoms or if that is happening at all anymore?
As for who you have to talk to, Yuktsi would be your only hope. You could try getting a hold of codywanks but I doubt he's still involved with this group by.
Just have an Idea about wrist rest for exent, how do you guys think? ;DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/mBgvtj0.jpg)
updated with sage waves:
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Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S
Yes, I'm also waiting for my two orders to come in. I've pm'd Yuktsi on Feb 1st and she replied on Feb 11th, that she could most likely have my order fulfilled the same week. I haven't heard from her since.
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S
Yes, I'm also waiting for my two orders to come in. I've pm'd Yuktsi on Feb 1st and she replied on Feb 11th, that she could most likely have my order fulfilled the same week. I haven't heard from her since.
Ok that's slightly reassuring haha. Not that it matters but I'm pretty sure Yuktsi is male, hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer!
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S
Still waiting. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if I ever see anything. The closer to the end you are, the higher the likelihood of any of money, parts, or manpower being exhausted.
Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously
it may be worth dropping him a message to set things in motion though.Let us know if you get any traction.
Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously
it may be worth dropping him a message to set things in motion though.Let us know if you get any traction.
Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously
still waiting on mine, looking forward to it, have built a couple for people and its a cool little board in person
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made
Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made
Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?
there are a few companies that will laser cut a plate from (laserboost, etc.). I'd like to try and find a place that can do a polycarb plate, but worst case scenario an easy option is to laser cut it out of acrylic.
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made
...Let me know if you also find the plate file as I want to try to make a PC plate as well.
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made
Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?
there are a few companies that will laser cut a plate from (laserboost, etc.). I'd like to try and find a place that can do a polycarb plate, but worst case scenario an easy option is to laser cut it out of acrylic.
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!
I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)
PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!
I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)
PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm
NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)
Thanks!
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!
I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)
PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm
NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)
Thanks!
Of course! Im trying to find somewhere to get a Polycarb plate cut for mine. If i happen to find one i may do a quick little GB for them if anybody is interested
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!
I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)
PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm
Would be interested in PC plateI was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!
I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)
PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm
NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)
Thanks!
Of course! Im trying to find somewhere to get a Polycarb plate cut for mine. If i happen to find one i may do a quick little GB for them if anybody is interested
I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.
I've been seeing TGR-910s being used with EXENT-branded PCBs. It seems the EXENT's fits the 910. I'd wager that the inverse is also true!
An interest check for 910 PCBs just went up. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101897.msg2794761.msg#2794761
For anyone else picking that PCB up, what do you guys plan to do about this notch? The plate beneath will be empty, so the PCB will be visible unless you slap some kind of sticker on the plate or something. Pretty sure the TGR-910 plate won't fit in the Exent, right?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R1x56Jl.png)
Folks,
At this point I am seriously considering resorting to one of the PCB reverse engineering services to generate the data required for production of clones, so to say. I am sure it will not be cheap, but I am willing to give it a shot as I've had some experience with it in the past. What I need though is an existing PCB from someone, ideally a non working one but one that did work at some point (as we don't want to recreate PCB from the one with the manufacturing defect), so component failure is preferred. I wouldn't want to sacrifice a working one but it it comes to that I will - mine. If anyone has a non working one to donate I would repay by exchanging it for a new working one if we ever reach a production run.
You might want to try reaching out to PancakeMSTR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62185). His PCB used to work, but it's dead now.
Let me know how that reverse-engineering project goes, especially if it's something you're going to be doing soon. I'm assuming you've taken a look at the PCB files Yuktsi shared with nephlock? My PCB is mostly functional but it's not in the greatest of shape and I'd really love a spare or two.
Would your version be running QMK or bootmapper? Any chance of underglow LEDs?
You might want to try reaching out to PancakeMSTR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62185). His PCB used to work, but it's dead now.
Let me know how that reverse-engineering project goes, especially if it's something you're going to be doing soon. I'm assuming you've taken a look at the PCB files Yuktsi shared with nephlock? My PCB is mostly functional but it's not in the greatest of shape and I'd really love a spare or two.
Would your version be running QMK or bootmapper? Any chance of underglow LEDs?
Thanks for the tip, I will try to get in touch with PancakeMSTR. I am planning to move on with it as soon as I get the suitable PCB in my hands. PCB files shared previously are useless for this purpose as someone already noticed. I am not planning any changes to the original design, it will be 1:1 copy, but once I get all the files from the physical PCB and that should include circuit layers, netlist and schematic I will share them with the community for everyone to use them as they please.
It's yours. Send me your details and I'll send it to you.
I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.
Same. I'd certainly chip in if someone wanted to do a GB.
I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
I've been seeing TGR-910s being used with EXENT-branded PCBs. It seems the EXENT's fits the 910. I'd wager that the inverse is also true!Yeap, Exent and 910 share the exact design (electrical and mechanical layout).
An interest check for 910 PCBs just went up. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101897.msg2794761.msg#2794761
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
The red line right the question mark on the top left, they are on different row (row3, row4). but if the red line that you traced out (row3) to the via (row3) isn't present, then there's a problem.My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.
I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.
Doesn't seem to be the issue.
I had this issue on a previous keyboard (not an Exent), and the problem was that a slightly misaligned diode needed to be resoldered. When I was looking at the diodes it wasn't very obvious at all, as the misalignment was very minor, so I felt like I was guessing. Turned out to be right.
I'm wondering if I have a blown diode or something. All my diodes look good, though.
I've been tracing leads (checking continuity), and I've attached an image of what I've come up with so far. Can anyone tell me where the path should go next (from the question mark)?
BTW green indicates good continuity, while red indicates no continuity.
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Did you ever end up thinking about this? I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Also very interested in this
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Did you ever end up thinking about this? I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMCI can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Also very interested in this
trying to make a small run of 20 units of the PCB (direct replacements for EXENT and 910), just have to figure out how can I start a GB on GH.
Folks, I'll be porting the Exent into QMK tonight 10/08/19
Join in at roughly 7:30 PM PST on https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin and hang out =)
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Did you ever end up thinking about this? I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC
I'd also like to get a new pcb as mine is dead
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Did you ever end up thinking about this? I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMCI can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Also very interested in this
trying to make a small run of 20 units of the PCB (direct replacements for EXENT and 910), just have to figure out how can I start a GB on GH.
Great to hear! I'd also love to join in on this if still possible.
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.
Also very interested in this
The port is successful and is now available on QMK Configurator
https://config.qmk.fm/#/exent/LAYOUT_65_ansi
Pls report back any problems/issues/comments you may have!
So my kit arrived mid house move and I’ve only just got round to properly checking. Turns out there’s no screws in the box! :'(
Could someone let me know the screw type/length that secures the base to the case, and also the foot to the base?
Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?
Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Ah, thanks so much!So my kit arrived mid house move and I’ve only just got round to properly checking. Turns out there’s no screws in the box! :'(
Could someone let me know the screw type/length that secures the base to the case, and also the foot to the base?
This might help. Search "screws" as it's been talked about quite a bit :)Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?
Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?If I ever receive mine, I'll keep you in mind.
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?If I ever receive mine, I'll keep you in mind.
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?If I ever receive mine, I'll keep you in mind.
Thank you.
Anyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.
Anyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.
You should be able to get one exclusives E6.5 pcbs (he’s currently running an order for them). It should fit the exent with a small widening of the base to allow for USB-CAnyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.
Price is attractive, I'd be keen for an aluminium one. I meant to get a PCB when the latest GB ran for that but forgot to, oh well.
A quick update - visited the shop yesterday, they appear more than capable of pulling this off. Good news is that I can actually get the aluminum ones anodized but that will increase the price by a few bucks. I will probably get 10 made, and and get them anodized in black. If someone wants them untreated, let me know. Pics in a few days. Final price to be determined but I expect it to be in $20-$25 range.I'd probably nab one, but how much is shipping from your location to the US?
Folks, I'll be porting the Exent into QMK tonight 10/08/19
Join in at roughly 7:30 PM PST on https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin and hang out =)
Special thanks to Carcha for letting me borrow his Exent.
i'm wondering if there's an MCU issue.
So with the help of discord, I solved this! A stabilizer screw (on backspace) was shorting the entire column to ground. I wonder if other people have experienced this with screw-in stabs.
Seeing as I said I'd let people know how I got on and it's been nearly a year since I said that, here is the first yearly update:
Seeing as I said I'd let people know how I got on and it's been nearly a year since I said that, here is the first yearly update:
You can try to PM codywanks. It's a bit of a long shot but he's had some experience with helping to get the boards out, and tends to have good information when we need it most.
If that doesn't produce any results, after waiting another month or two for a response from yuktsi you might want to consider asking for an update in public places such as yuktsi's GB posts and IC posts. It's kind of a d-ck move, but it might be your only hope of getting a response. And other people deserve to know that it appears yuktsi ghosts some of his customers.
Bit disappointing but not surprising unfortunatelyI have a nearly identical story. Good communication for a bit, an aramex number provided that never worked, and radio silence since then.
Bit disappointing but not surprising unfortunatelyI have a nearly identical story. Good communication for a bit, an aramex number provided that never worked, and radio silence since then.
Can I render my keyset on these?
Hey everyone,
I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?
Hey everyone,
I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?
Hey everyone,
I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?
Hey everyone,
I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?
Interested for sure!
Updated the first round PCB GB thread.Hey everyone,
I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?
I WOULD LOVE ONE!
Interested. Have you made any changes to this PCB since the original run? Would it be directly compatible with QMK?Nope, haven't made any changes unless the majority prefers certain minor changes. the initial version was compatible with QMK, someone here ported EXENT keyboard to QMK successfully (VIA compatibility too) https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tgr/910.
Been out of the mk loop for a while, so not sure if anythings changed on this front. Thanks
Well this is....unexpected. Not sure I'd believe based only on this screenshot. Doesn't even mention a year. :)
So Originative just teased Round 2 of Extent on their Facebook page...
Praise be, finally! They better come through on this, lol.
So Originative just teased Round 2 of Extent on their Facebook page...
Praise be, finally! They better come through on this, lol.
This is just enraging to those of us who received nothing from the original buy.
In principle I agree with you, but the first GB was not run by Originative. I guess they secured the rights to (re)use the design. I guess we will find out more as time passes, maybe it will not happen at all at the end....just as the first GB didn't for some people sadly.
Pretty sure this isn't a "reused design". This is all the units they picked up when the GB literally fell apart years ago, and that they've had sitting in storage for years for their supposed major "TypeMachina" release and opening.
Good chances these will be quite marked up, just like the Jane v1.5s they sold recently.
Pretty sure this isn't a "reused design". This is all the units they picked up when the GB literally fell apart years ago, and that they've had sitting in storage for years for their supposed major "TypeMachina" release and opening.
Good chances these will be quite marked up, just like the Jane v1.5s they sold recently.
If this is indeed the case, they should be ashamed. They slapped their name and advertised all over the original buy. They are complicit. If they are now selling units that were bought and paid for by others, that's completely unacceptable.
I wouldn't mind getting a second PCB, as the first round were... not that great. TARO should really fulfill all previous orders prior to starting a new buy!
Great board design, just a little bit of a weak execution.
Are there more people still waiting on this board to be delivered from GB?
Popping out of the woodwork to say that I am. I have no hope of ever receiving it, but theoretically, I’m still waiting for it.
Hi all,
The yearly update is arriving slightly early this year with some surprising news. Seeing the recent posts above this I'm sure you can probably guess what it is.
I also received an email from yuktsi about a month ago asking to confirm if my address was still correct, and was told to expect the board in a week. Much to my surprise, a week later I did indeed receive a package from DHL with an Exent inside!
It is a silver top and black bottom piece instead of the black top I ordered, it did have the brass plate however. I also received the Mod M switches and GMK keycaps that I ordered with it, but not the two sets of stabs. No dings or scratches so that was good news too. Whilst it's not quite what I ordered I'm genuinely surprised to have received anything, it's been a bit of a journey with ups and downs but thanks to yuktsi for eventually getting something shipped to me.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Whk4lSp.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3xEr7eJ.jpg)
Looks like Originative is doing their sale this Friday: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)For the low, low, low price of 700$! LOL! I though it was going to be another GB round, not them selling extras from some ancient GB that finally came in, and charging a crazy amount in order to fix someones screw up.
Looks like Originative is doing their sale this Friday: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
anyone happen to have a spare pcb for sale? mine had the leds dod for me. have the poly bottom so led kind of important for me