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Offline LeandreN

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 12 June 2015, 17:23:38 »
Looks like this is a "post your layout thread now. Keep them coming, amazing designs :)

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 12 June 2015, 18:27:11 »
Mine would be a standard ISO 60%, just like the one I have on the way, only the 6.25 spacebar would be split into four keys: 1+2+2.25+1.

I have noticed I always use my left thumb for space, so it makes sense for me to split the spacebar in two and use the right half for Fn. But then it would be very hard to find 3u or 3.25u caps.

However, 1u spares are easy to find, the 2u is the numpad 0, and the 2.25u is the ANSI left shift. So this layout can be covered with any full ANSI keycap set + ISO kit (or the other way around).

I would want a hole between the G, H and B for a Trackpoint as well, but that's easy enough to drill at home.
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 13 June 2015, 17:45:17 »
Thanks for all your cool designs :)

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 14 June 2015, 03:59:02 »
I hope I'm not too late for the party! Here are my thoughts:

I'd like to have a mostly standard 60% layout, but with thumb buttons.
For example one of these:
(both compatible with standard bottom row and ISO if possible)



http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/635fb954a2e7752eb8fc822e7ea214ee
(I don't know how to generate plates compatible with different layouts in the plate builder)

Additionally to the standard keycaps the first layout would need one 1.75u and two 1.25u caps (+ two 1u, but you can use the arrow keys for that)
and the second one would need one 1.75u and two 1.5u (+ four 1u)

These caps shoud be easy to source, even with sculptured profiles, because there is almost always a child deal for nonstandard mods.
« Last Edit: Sun, 14 June 2015, 04:29:30 by _nowai »

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 14 June 2015, 05:02:48 »
I hope I'm not too late for the party! Here are my thoughts:

I'd like to have a mostly standard 60% layout, but with thumb buttons.
For example one of these:
(both compatible with standard bottom row and ISO if possible)

Show Image


http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/635fb954a2e7752eb8fc822e7ea214ee
(I don't know how to generate plates compatible with different layouts in the plate builder)

Additionally to the standard keycaps the first layout would need one 1.75u and two 1.25u caps (+ two 1u, but you can use the arrow keys for that)
and the second one would need one 1.75u and two 1.5u (+ four 1u)

These caps shoud be easy to source, even with sculptured profiles, because there is almost always a child deal for nonstandard mods.

I would stick to 1.75u or less so they don't need stabilizers.

With a single Gateron PBT keyset (right now there are two GBs, plus a Massdrop - all of them about to end) you get a standard ANSI layout and plenty of spares, among them three 1.5 + one 1.75 keycaps, enough to fill the 6.25 space. No extra kits needed, no caps missing: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/600187b527db410ddcacb8bc75dd93b4

Splitting the spacebar seems a popular option (add Fn, backspace, mouse buttons...) but everyone would split it differently. How about a standard 60% plate with a wide 6.25 slot on the spacebar, so that up to 6 switches could fit anywhere on that slot?

You would have to either use a PCB or glue the switches to prevent them from sliding horizontally, but this would accomodate any 6.25u spacebar layout.

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 14 June 2015, 05:42:50 »
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I'd be ok with one big slot, but i think this solution it's a bit too "dirty" to make everyone happy. I'd rather let the community decide which segmentation of the spacebar is the most popular (if LeandreN chooses to go this route).

I for example would be perfectly fine with your submission as it makes sense to use nothing bigger than 1.75u and it's very close to the standard layout.
« Last Edit: Sun, 14 June 2015, 05:45:51 by _nowai »

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 04:34:02 »
This is just an idea for a universal 40% plate.
R4 should give the possibility to put switches in different positions. It has to be used along with a PCB otherwise the switches might end being unstable.
It might actually be unusable since the stabilizers cutouts would be a little off on the Y axis unless one uses a switch in place of a stabilizer.
ISO Enter is not supported.
Any idea is welcome.

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« Last Edit: Mon, 15 June 2015, 04:46:40 by TalkingTree »
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 05:21:25 »
This is just an idea for a universal 40% plate.
R4 should give the possibility to put switches in different positions. It has to be used along with a PCB otherwise the switches might end being unstable.
It might actually be unusable since the stabilizers cutouts would be a little off on the Y axis unless one uses a switch in place of a stabilizer.
ISO Enter is not supported.
Any idea is welcome.

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Awesome! The only problem is that we need a PCB, and I cannot design that :-/

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 07:22:39 »
The only problem is that we need a PCB, and I cannot design that :-/
I'm not concerned about the PCB because someone in this large community might eventually design one. The main issue at the moment is with the stabilizers.
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 07:40:01 »
The only problem is that we need a PCB, and I cannot design that :-/
I'm not concerned about the PCB because someone in this large community might eventually design one. The main issue at the moment is with the stabilizers.
Just stick to 1.75u or smaller for the bottom row - no need for stabilizers then.
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 07:50:37 »
Just stick to 1.75u or smaller for the bottom row - no need for stabilizers then.
True, but bottom row is usually home to the spacebar, everyone would seek at least 2u.
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:09:55 »
You could always use two or three sub-2u keys and map all of them to Space. Put them on the most worn spots of your usual spacebar.

There must be some way to mount stabilizers on a slot like this, though.
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design Your Plate, an idea by me
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:38:05 »
There must be some way to mount stabilizers on a slot like this, though.
Custom stabilizer is the only thing that comes to my mind at the moment, aside the use of a switch as stabilizer.
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design a Plate
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 17 August 2016, 03:41:56 »
Ok I definitely have to check every day if LeandreN submitted something new. How could I miss this thread?
So I made a couple attempts, all (but the ortho one) with the idea in mind to use as much standard sized caps as possible AND with split spacebars. I "reasearched" my own typing a little and found out that one thumb is slacking around 90% of the time. So: (click images for KLE)

ISO HHKB split


43% happy even stagger

I mean. Why is the lower row differently staggered than the upper one?

43% happy normal stagger (for the sake of completeness)


Ortho happy


Damn am I late to this thread...

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design a Plate
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 17 August 2016, 04:02:31 »
How could I miss this thread?

The last reply before you necro'd it was around a month before you registered your account, that is probably the reason.

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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design a Plate
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 17 August 2016, 04:09:41 »
How could I miss this thread?

The last reply before you necro'd it was around a month before you registered your account, that is probably the reason.

Try a year and 1 month  :p
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Re: [IC][POST YOUR LAYOUT] Design a Plate
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 17 August 2016, 05:07:23 »
How could I miss this thread?

The last reply before you necro'd it was around a month before you registered your account, that is probably the reason.

Try a year and 1 month  :p
lol I just read ...06-15 and thought it was weeks ago. sorry guys :D