Author Topic: [GB] Double shot replacements ROUND FOUR! - SHIPPING! (Read 1124789 times)

7bit · « **Reply #5150 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 14:46:21 »

Quote from: cyclonechuah;600018

why the price is still increasing for SPH?

i think i'm going to jump off, this feels not worth it anymore. TENKEYLESS and STANDARD KIT price increase, Shipping price increase. Sorry, i'm jumping out of this.

I've thrown out the low quantity fees, so I had to compendate them with slightly higher prices. Also, they can't double shot the J-shape return key. Engraving costs more, so price for it raised a bit too.

7bit · « **Reply #5151 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 14:56:24 »

Quote from: grik;600084

Precisely the Sets were the ones raising prices

Today´s INVOICE

Previous INVOICE

I know im the only portuguese here so i get all the fees. I dont know when will this stop...

Sorry for that. But it does not get up further.

cyclonechuah · « **Reply #5152 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 15:19:26 »

Hello, 7bit.

I'm sorry if i'm being a d*ck or a j*rk.

Quote from: 7bit;600097

I've thrown out the low quantity fees, so I had to compendate them with slightly higher prices. Also, they can't double shot the J-shape return key. Engraving costs more, so price for it raised a bit too.

From what i readed in Deskthority Wiki regarding about the Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4 Wiki.
SPH/TENKEYLESS and SPH/STANDARD KIT does not have J-Shape return Key which Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4 Wiki has show the example with the picture.
Link : http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4

Engraving? i never saw anything about Engraving in the Wiki, and btw, how does it related to our kit that has increase price?

AKIMbO · « **Reply #5153 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 16:26:08 »

Quote from: 7bit;600093

I know, but this will not happen again. The problem was that on DT your e-mail address was reset, and forwhatever reason the DT user list is looked up first so there is a match against your user name and off goes the mail to:

Yes to nowhere. Now it's changed, so the empty email addresses do not shadow the real ones.

Just got the final invoice. I paid in full my remaining amount to Game Theory.

7bit · « **Reply #5154 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 16:28:43 »

Quote from: cyclonechuah;600118

Hello, 7bit.

I'm sorry if i'm being a d*ck or a j*rk.

From what i readed in Deskthority Wiki regarding about the Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4 Wiki.
SPH/TENKEYLESS and SPH/STANDARD KIT does not have J-Shape return Key which Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4 Wiki has show the example with the picture.
Link : http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4

Engraving? i never saw anything about Engraving in the Wiki, and btw, how does it related to our kit that has increase price?

They found a tool for the key, but it is not for double shots.

I really like how they find suddenly tools for keys which they claimed to have for quite some time.

Maybe, when they really search, they find the 2.25 and 2.75 units keys as well ...

cancelx · « **Reply #5155 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 18:29:32 »

Got an email, but it says I should send money to rknize, not Game Theory. Is it okay? I thought rknize can't accept more payments

cyclonechuah · « **Reply #5156 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 19:16:52 »

Quote from: 7bit;600161

They found a tool for the key, but it is not for double shots.

I really like how they find suddenly tools for keys which they claimed to have for quite some time.

Maybe, when they really search, they find the 2.25 and 2.75 units keys as well ...

SPH/STANDARD 138 100 n/a Standard kit (101-104 keys)

if you're planning to add the J Shape Enter into those Stardard Kit, Honestly, i have no use for J Shape Enter, and i certainly think not much people would be interested on the J shape Enter, and this should be separated to justify the price.
But seriously, what the J Shape Enter has anything to do with SPH/Standard Kit and SPH/TENKLESS Kit.

You mention that you're trying to get the price down as more people join. But so far, what i see is,
*Price was mention to be low, but never release any information*
*More People Join!*
*Situation Continue as no information regarding about pricing*
*More People Join!*
*Price Information Released*
*Community : OMG WTF BBQ and some others Jump Off/Quit Group Buy*
*Price Gets Lower to be reasonable with Community*
*More People Join*
*Introduce Low Quantitiy Fee*
*Community : WTF!? and some others Jump Off/Quit Group Buy*
*Low Quantity Fee is reduced to be reasonable, and not 100 or 50 USD*
*Some Community went along, and some others Jump Off/Quit Group Buy*
*Invoice has been sent, and Introduced Leftovers for sales*
*more people joining for the leftover sales*
*Removed Low Quantity Fee and increase overall Keycap Pricing*

Basically, this is how the stories goes, with price originally was high, and lowered to let more users to join, and in the end, it raises up, and end up more higher then when it first announced. And even Shipping which was promised to be cheap, end up to be $31 USD, and could be going for $38 USD and might even OVER $38 if there's no complain about the Shipping like how the first promise was given.

In the end, i`m just whining because i`m poor, and i`m unable to afford the FOREVER INCREASING PRICE TAG, which at first was reasonable at USD 190, now USD 230, future might USD 260 or USD 300.

I Work to get money to buy this, and sadly I'm unable to Print Money. Sorry.

Overall, i just had a feeling this Group Buy is treating me like a stupid person. To the community, i`m sorry for everything(my childish ranting, and whining regarding about this) because i couldn't face the fact that i'm poor and not rich.

I'm here to say good bye to this Group Buy. and 7bit, please return my 50% of my payment. i`m quitting, thanks for everything, and sorry for disappointing you.

Kalcifer · « **Reply #5157 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 21:42:27 »

The initial prices on the price list should already cover all the associated costs. Taking out low quantity fees and then absorbing them in shipping costs amongst everyone will just be unfair to buyers who purchase sets / items that don't attract any "low quantity fees". Fees and charges will only decrease over time as more people are in, not the other way around. Heard of the term allocating cost drivers in a cost pool?

At the end of the day, I appreciate the time and effort the organiser put in, also recognise he's doing the community a favour. I agree the organiser should get something in return, namely monetary benefit. But before setting up a group buy, make sure the prices are set with SPH at the lowest tier achievable and then work your way down. In my opinion, from a buyer's perspective, this means the organiser didn't the take time to do thorough planning to cover his/her expenses plus some monetary benefit. And then at the end, realises the initial prices isn't sufficient to cover the costs.

I'll stay in the group buy, but this makes me lose some degree of confidence in future group buys.

emptythecache · « **Reply #5158 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 21:52:41 »

good lord you can't win with you people. some of you need to take a deep breath and realize that 7bit is not trying to rob you. he's been trying for months to make this as fair and affordable to everyone as he can. Not to mention the fact that he's making available products that for all intents and purposes didn't exist until we wanted them.

Salisen · « **Reply #5159 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 05:18:02 »

Wait, no J-return doubleshot?

Does that apply to just SPH or does it apply to RETRO/NOIR too?

rindorbrot · « **Reply #5160 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 05:24:53 »

Quote from: Salisen;600488

Wait, no J-return doubleshot?

Does that apply to just SPH or does it apply to RETRO/NOIR too?

only for SPH I think.

mayhemw1ns · « **Reply #5161 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 05:59:54 »

Did all invoices go out? If so I have not received one.

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5162 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 07:10:54 »

Just got some spam, price went down again \o/

7bit · « **Reply #5163 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 07:15:44 »

Quote from: cancelx;600229

Got an email, but it says I should send money to rknize, not Game Theory. Is it okay? I thought rknize can't accept more payments

He can, but not all what still has to be paid. Some invoices are to be paid to rknize, others to Game Theory and many others must wait a bit. We don't want the money to come in within a few days.

zulios · « **Reply #5164 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 07:32:56 »

Thanks for removing the low qty fees, now I can jump back on the BEPO train

Feels so good !

Glissant · « **Reply #5165 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 07:35:13 »

7bit, I don't know about others, but my bank requires a full address of the recipient of funds. I won't be able to transfer any funds via direct deposit without it.

7bit · « **Reply #5166 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 07:35:22 »

Quote from: zulios;600527

Thanks for removing the low qty fees, now I can jump back on the BEPO train
Feels so good !

I've squeezed the prices a bit down, but there is no air left.

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5167 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 07:37:33 »

BÉPO* please

It's not because 7bit can only work with 7bits encoding that we must too !
Expecially if we use a keyboard layout designed to do capitalized accentuated letters.

Glissant: I was able to just use the iban he gave me.

zulios · « **Reply #5168 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 08:01:44 »

Quote from: 7bit;600530

I've squeezed the prices a bit down, but there is no air left.

That's OK, Ripster can wait for Round 5 to get his replacement keys :lol:

@Djuzuh : Sorry but I'm still stuck to FR for now ^^ I'll start with it once I get my keys, that will motivate me.

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5169 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 08:03:29 »

Quote from: zulios;600541

That's OK, Ripster can wait for Round 5 to get his replacement keys :lol:

@Djuzuh : Sorry but I'm still stuck to FR for now ^^ I'll start with it once I get my keys, that will motivate me.

Meh, I think it's better learn to touch type bépo, and then use the keycaps to show off once you don't need them

.

You might never learn to touch type correctly if you learn with the legends.

nntnam · « **Reply #5170 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 10:32:25 »

So... it's final now? Or there will be final of final (and so on...) in the future..?? :nerd:

emptythecache · « **Reply #5171 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 10:44:36 »

yeah but even you have to admit that the world ending kind of makes your need for corrected keycaps inconsequential.

AKIMbO · « **Reply #5172 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 10:47:54 »

Quote from: 7bit;600522

He can, but not all what still has to be paid. Some invoices are to be paid to rknize, others to Game Theory and many others must wait a bit. We don't want the money to come in within a few days.

Oh balls...I already paid the rest of my invoice to Game Theory. Maybe I was premature. $:-\$

Game Theory · « **Reply #5173 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 10:49:27 »

I promise the world is not ending in 2012:)

7bit · « **Reply #5174 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:12:43 »

Quote from: Djuzuh;600533

...

Congrats to your 666th post!

7bit · « **Reply #5175 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:13:17 »

Quote from: ripster;600616

Yeah but your screen name is Game Theory and my 2x2 matrix spidey sense says don't trust you.

And then it also must be sent to an untrusted e-mail address ...

:?

7bit · « **Reply #5176 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:14:29 »

Quote from: Game Theory;600613

I promise the world is not ending in 2012:)

But for me, Round 4 is the world!!!

7bit · « **Reply #5177 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:16:53 »

Quote from: ripster;600611

It's the principle of the thing. Shipping defective keys then saying, "Sorry, no money left to send you replacement keys I HAVE RECEIVED FROM SIGNATURE PLASTICS" was not cool.

Plus Soarer I think has over $50 of keys that are sitting around unused because he needs replacement keys.

Why didn't you drive up to iMav's place and take pictures!

It is all your fault! You troll the whole day, but when it comes to real work, you hide behind a sofa!
:behindsofa: <---Ripster

7bit · « **Reply #5178 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:18:53 »

Quote from: ripster;600637

Do I get a free key for being post 5000?

No, only for the 10,000th.

7bit · « **Reply #5179 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:21:16 »

Quote from: ripster;600641

I'm sure it'll hit that before you ship.

That was my plan from the beginning!
:-)

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5180 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:23:33 »

Quote from: 7bit;600627

Congrats to your 666th post!

Already? damn, I need to stop before I end up like ripster.

Glissant · « **Reply #5181 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:23:57 »

Anything on the address issue I mentioned earlier? My bank is adamant that I attach the person's address. All the other info is clearly not enough for this backwater country.

dko2o · « **Reply #5182 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:24:09 »

How is the shipping calculated? I'm trying to reduce my shipping cost

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5183 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:27:26 »

It's calculated with the total price you have.

It's not only shipping btw, it also includes the creation of tools for*SP, the shippping from SP, the creation of new molds, and a lot of other things.

The high shipping costs are the reason everything else is so cheap despite the low orders.

Just accept it and pay the price asked

.

dko2o · « **Reply #5184 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:32:55 »

Ha ha I would if I was rich but sadly I'm not. I wonder how much are others paying for shipping??

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5185 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:34:51 »

I'm paying 32$. Maximum is 39.

dko2o · « **Reply #5186 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:40:09 »

Is there a minimum for shipping cost?

7bit · « **Reply #5187 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:44:31 »

Quote from: Djuzuh;600645

Already? damn, I need to stop before I end up like ripster.

There is no danger that this will happen:
57460/38=1512.11

669/3==223

Djuzuh · « **Reply #5188 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:56:01 »

Quote from: 7bit;600662

There is no danger that this will happen:
57460/38=1512.11

669/3==223

You forgot the rollbacks which hit me while I was blooming xD.

7bit · « **Reply #5189 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 12:00:20 »

Quote from: ripster;600664

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Anyway I'm not trolling you. Trolling means trying to evoke a emotional response. You're German. That's impossible.

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7bit · « **Reply #5190 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 12:01:18 »

Quote from: Djuzuh;600669

You forgot the rollbacks which hit me while I was blooming xD.

This is why we must post more unnecessary posts in the thread to compensate for th list in post counts.

7bit · « **Reply #5191 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 12:02:03 »

BUMP!*

*) This bump has been typed on a Cherry G80-9013HAD

nntnam · « **Reply #5192 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 12:20:55 »

Quote from: 7bit;600679

BUMP!*

*) This bump has been typed on a Cherry G80-9013HAD

hmm, 7bit, do you have any spare black on white cherry DS sets?

zulios · « **Reply #5193 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 13:28:06 »

Quote from: Djuzuh;600543

Meh, I think it's better learn to touch type bépo, and then use the keycaps to show off once you don't need them .

You might never learn to touch type correctly if you learn with the legends.

Hmm, right. The sooner the better anyway.

7bit · « **Reply #5194 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 14:22:27 »

Quote from: nntnam;600688

hmm, 7bit, do you have any spare black on white cherry DS sets?

7bit · « **Reply #5195 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 14:25:02 »

Quote from: zulios;600729

Hmm, right. The sooner the better anyway.

Without the legends, you never know which key does what!

Order your key caps while you can!

kalrykh · « **Reply #5196 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 22:37:03 »

You seem to have a lot of stuff left. I really hope you put a bit of margin on this stuff so you're not having to eat the cost of stuff that doesn't sell. Are iMav's children providing the slave labor to sort these this time?

dko2o · « **Reply #5197 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 23:52:49 »

there is retro/symbols kit... when was this added i would have got this instead of all the separate keys

u got spares 7 bit?

metafour · « **Reply #5198 on:** Sun, 27 May 2012, 02:03:20 »

I asked this before and was told that unpaid orders were dropped. I received an invoice today for the keys that I still have on order but haven't paid for yet. One is listed as "SOLD OUT" in your list above. If I paid for both am I still able to get both or will you be short a set and thus one of us will not get it?

Thion · « **Reply #5199 on:** Sun, 27 May 2012, 03:40:53 »

Quote from: metafour;601127

I asked this before and was told that unpaid orders were dropped. I received an invoice today for the keys that I still have on order but haven't paid for yet. One is listed as "SOLD OUT" in your list above. If I paid for both am I still able to get both or will you be short a set and thus one of us will not get it?

I too couldn't really pay yet, as i'm waiting for someone to merge my order with (he only needed a neo set).
Will that still work?

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