Duck Viper and Eagle Group Buy

[minho]

no, only 2x keys and higher need stabilizers.

[loud_asian]

where are you guys getting stabs from?

Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.

I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.

He does?

Where?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270

So we'd need a:

7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?

First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need.  And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want.  But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.

I mean for a viper in hhkb layout

The OP says that a plate is included

Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout

If you go for a layout that follows exactly like a HHKB you'll have the bottom layout in this picture. The bottom layout only requires 2 2x stabs and 1 7x stab

[Rewind]

where are you guys getting stabs from?

Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.

I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.

He does?

Where?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270

So we'd need a:

7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?

First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need.  And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want.  But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.

I mean for a viper in hhkb layout

The OP says that a plate is included

Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout

1.75x keys do not need a stab (caps lock, hhkb right shift). I think stabs are only for keys 2x and up.

[feizor]

where are you guys getting stabs from?

Ivan has a gb for stabs right now. I think it would probably arrive before this GB ships.

I also ordered an extra set from GON's website when I got my NerD TKL.

He does?

Where?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60789.msg1406270#msg1406270

So we'd need a:

7x plate mount space bar stab
(2) 2x plat mount stab for the left shift and the enter key?

First off these are pcb mounted stabs you need.  And the stabilizers you need depends on what layout you want.  But you will need a spacebar, left shift, enter, and potential backspace+right shift depending on what layout you prefer.

I mean for a viper in hhkb layout

The OP says that a plate is included

Does the 1.75x right shift need a stab? I assume the backspace is 1.5x or something on a hhkb layout

No stab needed for 1.75x shift.

[StylinGreymon]

When are we gonna get invoiced?
Sorry for my lack of patience.

[loud_asian]

When are we gonna get invoiced?
Sorry for my lack of patience.

elton said a few pages back that once he founds out how much shipping costs, he'll start invoicing

[elton5354]

I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet or anything for that matter..

I just received the weight of each unit. I'll start invoicing maybe tomorrow or Tuesday.  I'll update the spreadsheet tomorrow night as well.

Viper
Housing : 1206g
PCB : 84g
Plate : 139g
Accessories : 4g

Eagle
Housing : 1128g
PCB : 89g
Plate : 143g
Accessories : 4g

Packaging is 0.69 kg

Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.

[Lingj]

Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 

[elton5354]

They haven't tested ALPs on the PCBs and I don't think they are planning on doing it as well.

Using ALPs requires a plate so... 

[jorgenslee]

I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet or anything for that matter..

I just received the weight of each unit. I'll start invoicing maybe tomorrow or Tuesday.  I'll update the spreadsheet tomorrow night as well.

Viper
Housing : 1206g
PCB : 84g
Plate : 139g
Accessories : 4g

Eagle
Housing : 1128g
PCB : 89g
Plate : 143g
Accessories : 4g

Packaging is 0.69 kg

Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.

Wow, never knew the case is that heavy. It's even heavier than Hammer case I think.

[epzy]

I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet or anything for that matter..

I just received the weight of each unit. I'll start invoicing maybe tomorrow or Tuesday.  I'll update the spreadsheet tomorrow night as well.

Viper
Housing : 1206g
PCB : 84g
Plate : 139g
Accessories : 4g

Eagle
Housing : 1128g
PCB : 89g
Plate : 143g
Accessories : 4g

Packaging is 0.69 kg

Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.

Wow, never knew the case is that heavy. It's even heavier than Hammer case I think.

Yeah, Hammer cases weigh around 1.1kg.

[elton5354]

The biggest weight is the packaging. That weight accounts only for the box.  With bubble wraps and all, it weighs a little over .8 kg, but I guess they aren't going to add that to the total packaging weight..

Either way each set w/ packaging will weigh a little over 2 kg, so you'd have to look at the 2.5 kg shipping rate.

If you want to make your own ALPs plate, I have the file for it.  Let me know if you want it.

[CPTBadAss]

Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.

They haven't tested ALPs on the PCBs and I don't think they are planning on doing it as well.

Using ALPs requires a plate so... 

Sigh. Thanks elton. If they haven't tested functionality then I really don't want to spring for the board only to find out something is wrong with the PCB. Guess I'm not getting one of these after all.

[geniekid]

Oh and there won't be any ALPs plate available.

They haven't tested ALPs on the PCBs and I don't think they are planning on doing it as well.

Using ALPs requires a plate so... 

Sigh. Thanks elton. If they haven't tested functionality then I really don't want to spring for the board only to find out something is wrong with the PCB. Guess I'm not getting one of these after all.

I feel your pain.  If there was a PCB only option I'd take the risk and worst case have an MX board, but Elton says there will be no PCB only option

[StylinGreymon]

I-invoicing today?

[elton5354]

Okay, I asked TrueCustom if he could get a smaller box for single unit orders to reduce the weight under 2 kg for cheaper shipping and he has done it today.  I'll start organizing everything tonight for invoice over the next few days.

If you order 1 unit, we will use .56 kg packaging weight and 2 units and more will be .69 kg.

There are 40 vipers and 31 eagles available immediately.  They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.

The rest will have to wait 2 months for the next round..

[Xenderwind]

Okay, I asked TrueCustom if he could get a smaller box for single unit orders to reduce the weight under 2 kg for cheaper shipping and he has done it today.  I'll start organizing everything tonight for invoice over the next few days.

If you order 1 unit, we will use .56 kg packaging weight and 2 units and more will be .69 kg.

There are 40 vipers and 31 eagles available immediately.  They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.

The rest will have to wait 2 months for the next round..

Awesome!  Thanks for the updates and getting us reduced shipping elton.

[minho]

Okay, I asked TrueCustom if he could get a smaller box for single unit orders to reduce the weight under 2 kg for cheaper shipping and he has done it today.  I'll start organizing everything tonight for invoice over the next few days.

If you order 1 unit, we will use .56 kg packaging weight and 2 units and more will be .69 kg.

There are 40 vipers and 31 eagles available immediately.  They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.

The rest will have to wait 2 months for the next round..

Will these be distributed in order of order submissions on the form?

[osi]

Yay. There will be a next round!

[elton5354]

Will these be distributed in order of order submissions on the form?

Yes.  That would be most fair.

[minho]

What is the deadline to pay after invoice? 24 hours?

[Fnzzy]

Great news, thanks for the update. Can't wait!

[asassdsd]

Will these be distributed in order of order submissions on the form?

Yes.  That would be most fair.

Elton Ive sent u an email about changing my order, have u receive it?

[jameslr]

Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?

[Xenderwind]

Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?

Not sure when the spreadsheet was last updated but it only shows 27/31 eagles.

[epzy]

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[jameslr]

Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?

Not sure when the spreadsheet was last updated but it only shows 27/31 eagles.

K - I just ordered then. Not sure if it's going to make it in R1 if he's already submitted though :/

[Xenderwind]

Anyone interested in selling their R1 spot for Black Eagle?

Not sure when the spreadsheet was last updated but it only shows 27/31 eagles.

K - I just ordered then. Not sure if it's going to make it in R1 if he's already submitted though :/

I would imagine the 31 they had available would be just for elton's GB and they would order the pcb/plates for those regardless.  Only thing left would be to pick the color for annodizing.  And even if no one ordered the last 4 I would assume they would just annodize them anyway and sell them as leftovers.

Though there is also a fairly high chance that elton hasn't been updated the spreadsheet and there are already others ahead of you for the remaining 4 eagles.

[tjweir]

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This picture makes me happy I picked Blue-grey.

[StylinGreymon]

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This picture makes me happy I picked Blue-grey.

Right?

So, after invoicing, will we just be waiting on the cases being anodized before they'll be ready to ship?

[cooldiscretion]

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This picture makes me happy I picked Blue-grey.

Right?

So, after invoicing, will we just be waiting on the cases being anodized before they'll be ready to ship?

It sounded to me like PCBs as well, but I could be misinterpreting.

[Xenderwind]

So, after invoicing, will we just be waiting on the cases being anodized before they'll be ready to ship?

They just need to produce PCBs, plates, and anodizing the cases.

[StylinGreymon]

Any ideas on how long that generally takes?

[osi]

Definitely in for round 2!! Form filled out!!

[StylinGreymon]

How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.

[feizor]

How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.

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+1 I would also like to know. I suspect it's shining onto the red PCB and the camera exposure enhances the effect.

[dorkvader]

How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.

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+1 I would also like to know. I suspect it's shining onto the red PCB and the camera exposure enhances the effect.

I got a very similar effect with mine: I'm using blank cherry POM, which is very opaque. The light bounces off the nice stainless steel plate and gets that effect. I suspect it's just the fact that none of it can shine through the thick cherry keycaps he has on there.

[bazh]

How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.

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shouldn't be that hard, especially when Duck use SS plate, which is support backlit lighting better than alu one.

This is my 38GT, using a red alu plate

[minho]

How does Duck get this uniform glow in his Eagle and Light Pad?
I don't think I've ever seen it so smooth.

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shouldn't be that hard, especially when Duck use SS plate, which is support backlit lighting better than alu one.

This is my 38GT, using a red alu plate

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What kind of keycaps is that? I have thick IMSTO PBT, and the back lighting on my NerD TKL can shine through the keycaps...

[elton5354]

I'm sending invoices now.  If I missed sending one with combined shipping because you want to send it to someone to have it soldered, please PM me.

[epzy]

Noice!

[minho]

PAID AND DAMN EXCITED

[elton5354]

Oh Crap....I've sent them in CAD and not USD...please do not pay..I'm going to change the invoice...I'm going to refund you minho...

[cooldiscretion]

Oh Crap....I've sent them in CAD and not USD...please do not pay..I'm going to change the invoice...I'm going to refund you minho...

Whoops, I just paid.

[elton5354]

Sorry about that. I'll refund those who paid...

[minho]

Sorry about that. I'll refund those who paid...

doh. np

[StylinGreymon]

Man, that was the fastest transition from excited to disappointed I've had in a while 

[elton5354]

Lol sorry I'm taking a break.  I'll continue invoicing in a moment.

[StylinGreymon]

[StylinGreymon]

Paid!