More of those plates should have the 5 extra keys above the arrow cluster. These are easy extra keys without having to worry about odd keycap sizes with prof's plate. Considering how many Phantom orders there are this time around (and that phantom owners are the primary target of this group buy), I would rather there be extra keys above the arrow cluster than cutouts for controllers boards for keyboards that already have plates.
Perhaps I will just submit my own plate idea:
(Attachment Link)
As many extra keys as possible while still being fully compatible with ANSI keycap sets (you might need a few extra novelty keys for function row).
With this layout, are the "normal" function keys still exactly lined up with the open spots on a filco/plu87 case?No. You could get by with the gap between esc and F1, but the gaps between F4/F5 and F8/F9 would need to be cut. Though if you ask me, it's pretty easy to make cuts in these plastic cases. I removed the plastic above the arrow keys for a Filco case using only a small hacksaw and a utility knife. I was somewhat impatient when I did it, but the end result still looked pretty good.
Here is my ideal layout:
(http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png)
More of those plates should have the 5 extra keys above the arrow cluster. These are easy extra keys without having to worry about odd keycap sizes with prof's plate. Considering how many Phantom orders there are this time around (and that phantom owners are the primary target of this group buy), I would rather there be extra keys above the arrow cluster than cutouts for controllers boards for keyboards that already have plates.
Perhaps I will just submit my own plate idea:
(Attachment Link)
As many extra keys as possible while still being fully compatible with ANSI keycap sets (you might need a few extra novelty keys for function row).
Another vote for ANSI125 with 5 extra keys, hope it goes through.
The reason why I dropped those 5 extra keys above the arrow was because the last phatom GB was huge, and yet only one person (profesist) actually used that space.I used that space :D
Perhaps a regular ANS125 plate with the 5 extra keys above arrow cluster would be better... I cant see much use for the two extra keys in the function row, except as a place to cram in a couple more novelty keycaps...
I'd be very interested if there were an ANSI125 plate with the 5 extra key spots above the arrow cluster.
Another vote for ANSI125 with 5 extra keys, hope it goes through.
Same for me.
One thing to note, although the plates may be compatible with PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers, the Phantom PCB has no holes for them. If you are mounting this plate on a Phantom, you will be using plate mounted stabilizers, either Costar or Cherry.
WFD, if we ordered a Universal TKL plate from you, is that the same as the ANSI125 plate here?
Here is my ideal layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png)
Ok fixed for you guys. Earlier responses hold more weight ;)
Here is my ideal layout:
(http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png)
So this is basically a 1.5x modifier 60% PURE layout with split backspace, and the function row and side "pad" fully populated, right?
What is the difference between ansi125 and ansi 150?
Do I need special keycaps if I order the 150?
It's also winkeyless. I'd prefer winkey ('cause then I don't have to get a tsangan kit for it), but otherwise prefer this layout.Here is my ideal layout:
(http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png)
So this is basically a 1.5x modifier 60% PURE layout with split backspace, and the function row and side "pad" fully populated, right?
Yes, exactly.
WFD, the layout you have pictured for Prof should have the R_SHIFT 1.75 and a 1.0 unit key to the right of it, instead of to the left of R_SHIFT. Phantom PCB doesn't support the layout as pictured.yea didnt notice that when i glanced thans for finding the error
A proper case design needs it's own plate design that integrates to the case, they should be designed as a cohesive unit.
Here is my ideal layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jIPof.png)
WFD, the layout you have pictured for Prof should have the R_SHIFT 1.75 and a 1.0 unit key to the right of it, instead of to the left of R_SHIFT. Phantom PCB doesn't support the layout as pictured.
I'd love an ISO 150 with short right Shift + 1x Fn.
would that be possible?
also form filled.
Form filled. I really hope we get someone to make some sweet aluminum cases to give Korean customs a run for their money.
125 is uniform 1.25x modifiers: ctrl/win/alt spacebar alt/win/menu/ctrl
150 is 1.5x modifiers, often used without any win/menu at all, however sometimes with 1x win/menu caps.
7bit layout anyone?my layout would be the closest, I think it was eliminated because no one has need for 4 keys instead of spacebar.
In regards to your question on whether if similar parts can be counted as the same, although the parts have similar over-all dimensions, each part will still require programming and set-up times factored into the pricing. These two factors are what generally accrue most of the cost when fabricating a part. Due to the programming and set-up times making up the majority of the cost, the price of making one part versus making 100 is slight. You would basically only paying for the cost of material once a machine in running.
If treated as one part there would be only one programming and set-up fee, when in fact there are five programming and set-up times for five different parts.
So basically with a 150 you can also use 1.25 modifiers but just without the menu modifier on the right? Unless I'm completely mistaken, but the 150 has the same mounting holes from what I can tell on the pics. How would a 1.5 modifier fit in there then? *confused*
7bit layout anyone?
Well it's only an interest check, so it doesn't matter too much if it doesn't get filled out. It only for gauging quotes so basically if you don't fill it out your opinion doesn't matter. When the order form goes up, ideally there should be 1 plate with every PCB ordered because the PCBs require a plate to mount it on the case.yep
What is the difference between SS and ALU? different feel? sounds? sturdiness?It says in the OP
Things that needs to be decided are material and color. Aluminum costs less, but weighs less. However it can be anodized to almost any color. Stainless steel is a couple bucks more per plate, but is heavier and most likely won't have any color. It's probably too cost prohibitive to powdercoat, and the powder will throw off the plate tolerances so I'll have to modify the plate of account for this.
Mind you, the week between Christmas and New Years isn't the best time to gauge interest in this sort of thing. ;D
Personally I think the biggest decision is going Winkeyless or not, and having a unique layout such as the Profosist's.
What is the difference between SS and ALU? different feel? sounds? sturdiness?
Another quick question:yep plate mount cherry or costar only
the OP says that these plates are also compatible with Cherry PCB-Mounted stabilizers.
But if I take a look at the Phantom's PCB I don't see the holes needed for those stabs.
So is the Phantom Plate-mounted stabs only?
One thing to note, although the plates may be compatible with PCB-mounted Cherry stabilizers, the Phantom PCB has no holes for them. If you are mounting this plate on a Phantom, you will be using plate mounted stabilizers, either Costar or Cherry.
Alu can be anodized ss has to be powder coated which would screw witb dimentions.
OK, thanks guys.yo ucan get all the parts you need to build your phantom here (http://tinyurl.com/a4qfpsn) and yo ucan even have it built for you if you dont want to or cant do it.
Now I have to look for some plate-mounted Cherry stabs. Can you hint me where I could get them? I've seen Profosist offers them for his assembly services so I guess you know where to get them (though I'd prefer to buy them from somewhere in Europe to save on shipping)?
This also leads me to a further question:
Is it possible to use a stabilizer wire from a 7x PCB-mount Cherry stab on the plate mounted version or do I need to make my own (like for Costars)?
I see the battle for Aluminum vs steel is very close. I REALLY want Stainless. I know people want stainless for the weight and aluminum for the color. Someone mentioned "bluing" the steel. Is that like what you do to your rifle? I've seen them put some pretty cool colors on rifles at my local gun shop.
Is there a way to do both stainless and aluminum? That would make everyone happy happy.
7bit layout anyone?
Anodized aluminum looks cool, and it stabilizes the switches just fine. But after buying 2 Poker plates and 2 Phantom plates in stainless, I now know that stainless is the way to go. My boards with stainless plates all feel rock solid. You might be able to flex the aluminum plate to a very small degree while typing, if you bang away at it. You aren't going to flex that stainless plate. It just ain't gonna happen.If its not too much trouble, would you mind sharing a pic of one of your keyboard with the stainless plate on?
If its not too much trouble, would you mind sharing a pic of one of your keyboard with the stainless plate on?
I can't seem to spot one from the pics on your sig ^^;
Here's my Poker with stainless plate (in imsto alucase):
I would paint a DeLorean. And add ghost flames.
Does anyone know if the Phantom PCB can support a bottom row configuration like the Realforce 87u's? Meaning 1.5x, 1x, 1.5x, 6.25x, 1.5x, 1x, 1x, 1.5x? I'd be highly interested in a plate for that config, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it.
Nope, it doesn't. But the GH60 comes close. Problem is that's not a 6.25u spacebar, it's 6.00.
GH60 supports 1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1.5-1.0-1.0-1.5
Does anyone know if the Phantom PCB can support a bottom row configuration like the Realforce 87u's? Meaning 1.5x, 1x, 1.5x, 6.25x, 1.5x, 1x, 1x, 1.5x? I'd be highly interested in a plate for that config, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it.Nope, it doesn't. But the GH60 comes close. Problem is that's not a 6.25u spacebar, it's 6.00.
GH60 supports 1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1.5-1.0-1.0-1.5
Of course it does!! It was I who designed it =D
But the Realforce/HHKB layout is
1.50+1.00+1.50+6.00+1.50+1.00+1.00+1.50
With the 6x space layout, I'm assuming that the stems are off centered, and is Cherry compatible? :)
TIL.
that ends up on the same location as the center stem on the 7x spacebar.
that ends up on the same location as the center stem on the 7x spacebar.
Which is why Cherry did it.
With the 6x space layout, I'm assuming that the stems are off centered, and is Cherry compatible? :)
Say what? I don't know anything about Cherry spacebars... =P Is this what you are talking about? http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar#6_units_.28114mm_wide.2C_3_keymounts.2C_57mm_and_38mm_apart.29 In that case you'd be lucky, that ends up on the same location as the center stem on the 7x spacebar. I designed the Realforce setup after a center stemmed spacebar though =)
With the 6x space layout, I'm assuming that the stems are off centered, and is Cherry compatible? :)
Say what? I don't know anything about Cherry spacebars... =P Is this what you are talking about? http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar#6_units_.28114mm_wide.2C_3_keymounts.2C_57mm_and_38mm_apart.29 In that case you'd be lucky, that ends up on the same location as the center stem on the 7x spacebar. I designed the Realforce setup after a center stemmed spacebar though =)
This is news to me as well since I never owned an official cherry spacebar. No wonder those universal ones had that extra stem. I'm surprised no one mentioned that none of 125 plates will work with an offcentered spacebar stem since they only have one exact position for the stems.
Dangwang did just sell some Phantom plates, however IIRC they don't work with Filco cases because no "lip"
Does anyone know if the Phantom PCB can support a bottom row configuration like the Realforce 87u's? Meaning 1.5x, 1x, 1.5x, 6.25x, 1.5x, 1x, 1x, 1.5x? I'd be highly interested in a plate for that config, but I haven't seen anyone else mention it.Nope, it doesn't. But the GH60 comes close. Problem is that's not a 6.25u spacebar, it's 6.00.
GH60 supports 1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1.5-1.0-1.0-1.5
Of course it does!! It was I who designed it =D
But the Realforce/HHKB layout is
1.50+1.00+1.50+6.00+1.50+1.00+1.00+1.50
I saw a 6x space bar once... reaper has one on one of his Korean boards. He had to get the space bar imported too and it's the only one he has.
I saw a 6x space bar once... reaper has one on one of his Korean boards. He had to get the space bar imported too and it's the only one he has.This one? Really digging the layout. Too bad that if I did it I wouldn't have the far right row (no big deal) but I wouldn't have profiles right for the keys. :(
I gots some pricing on plates near me
I just got quotes back as well. Profosist's quotes were around $31 per plate. The cheapest place got back to me at $22 per plate:so what price should i put on the form?
I requested for anodizing and surface finishes in either line graining or sandblasting. The aluminum plates will be line grained, then clear anodized. I guess I wasn't specific enough on colors so they did not quote for colors. I'm sure it'll be a tad extra if they add color dye in the process. Sandblasting instead of line graining will also be a few dollars higher per plate. The stainless steel ones were also quoted with uniform grain surface finish and no other color options. So basically aluminum with line graining and clear anodized is the same cost as bare stainless steel with line graining. Other technical details: Aluminum is 6061-T6 grade, with MIL-A-8625, Type II, Class I anodizing. Stainless steel is 304 CRES grade.
One other important thing I was able to negotiate is that they will take any design to count it towards the total plate count as long as there is at least a MOQ of 15 plates per design. This means I'll make some other requested designs if there are at least 15 plates when the actual GB starts.
also adding any plates? If not i can get the form up once i have the pricingI just got quotes back as well. Profosist's quotes were around $31 per plate. The cheapest place got back to me at $22 per plate:so what price should i put on the form?
I requested for anodizing and surface finishes in either line graining or sandblasting. The aluminum plates will be line grained, then clear anodized. I guess I wasn't specific enough on colors so they did not quote for colors. I'm sure it'll be a tad extra if they add color dye in the process. Sandblasting instead of line graining will also be a few dollars higher per plate. The stainless steel ones were also quoted with uniform grain surface finish and no other color options. So basically aluminum with line graining and clear anodized is the same cost as bare stainless steel with line graining. Other technical details: Aluminum is 6061-T6 grade, with MIL-A-8625, Type II, Class I anodizing. Stainless steel is 304 CRES grade.
One other important thing I was able to negotiate is that they will take any design to count it towards the total plate count as long as there is at least a MOQ of 15 plates per design. This means I'll make some other requested designs if there are at least 15 plates when the actual GB starts.
I will be brave and just go ahead and ask this questions. What exactly is this? Is this for what you want to build your own keyboard?The Phantom is (Technically was, but fingers crossed for a round 3!) a custom keyboard PCB that you buy along with a plate, switches, a teensy controller, and a case, and you solder it and you put it together, and you call it your own. You just missed out on Round 2 (unless you actually did buy a PCB), though I hope there'll be a Round 3 a year from now. It's very cool, and I'm glad you asked the question. Don't be worried to ask questions, as the community is very newb-friendly.
Hopefully R3 is for Phantom2.0 :)I hear Phantom 2.0 won't have a Teensy in favor of an onboard controller...that makes me sad. there's something about that little thing...
there's something about that little thing...
Am I correct in assuming all that needs to be done for Filco compatibility is to cutout the 5 keys above the arrow keys?
Second, I remember seeing somewhere that the other SS plate was incompatible with aluminum cases, I believe it was due to the front bend not being present. I can't find the post, and I'm wondering if that was in regards to the Vortex, the MKC, or both. If so does anyone know of an aluminum case that this will work with that is actually being made or any ideas on how to make it fit an MKC?
You probably saw that from one of my post. These plates will not be compatible with a vortex case because those needs the two bends to be mounted, while these plates are just flat throughout. These plates should work with the MKC case, however I don't believe the PCB can go in there. The teensy might add too much thickness, although don't quote me on this.
* ANSI:
*
* ,---. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
* |Esc| |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|NmL|Pau|
* `---' `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
* ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
* |~ | 1| 2| 3| 4| 5| 6| 7| 8| 9| 0| -| =|Backsp | |Ins|Hom|PgU|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Tab | Q| W| E| R| T| Y| U| I| O| P| [| ]| \| |Del|End|PgD|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Caps | A| S| D| F| G| H| J| K| L| ;| '|Return | |???|???|???|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Shift | Z| X| C| V| B| N| M| ,| .| /|Shift| FN1| |???|Up |???|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Ctl| |Alt| Space |Alt| |Ctl| |Lef|Dow|Rig|
* `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
*/
KEYMAP(\
ESC, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, PSCR, NLCK, BRK, \
GRV, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, MINS, EQL, BSPC, INS, HOME, PGUP, \
TAB, Q, W, E, R, T, Y, U, I, O, P, LBRC, RBRC, BSLS, DEL, END, PGDN, \
CAPS, A, S, D, F, G, H, J, K, L, SCLN, QUOT, ENT, 0, 0, 0, \
LSFT, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M, COMM, DOT, SLSH, RSFT, FN1, 0, UP, ), \
LCTL, LALT, SPC, RALT, RCTL, LEFT, DOWN, RIGHT),
/*
* ,---. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
* |Esc| |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|NmL|Pau|
* `---' `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
* ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
* |~ | 1| 2| 3| 4| 5| 6| 7| 8| 9| 0| -| =|Backsp | | / | * | - |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Tab |v++|V--|V__| R| T| Y| U| I| O| P| [| ]| \| | 7 | 8 | 9 |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Caps |MPRV|PLLY|MSTP|MNXT|G| H| J| K| L| ;| '|Return | | 4 | 5 | 6 |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Shift | Z| X| C| V| B| N| M| ,| .| /|Shift| FN1| | 1 | 2 | 3 |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Ctl| |Alt| Space |Alt| |Ctl| | 0 |Dot| + |
* `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
*/
KEYMAP(\
ESC, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, PSCR, NLCK, BRK, \
GRV, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, MINS, EQL, BSPC, KP_MEM_DIV, KP_MEM_MUL, KP_MEM_SUB, \
TAB,VOLU,VOLD,MUTE, R, T, Y, U, I, O, P, LBRC, RBRC, BSLS, 7, 8, 9, \
CAPS,MPRV,MPLY,MSTP,MNXT, G, H, J, K, L, SCLN, QUOT, ENT, 4, 5, 6, \
LSFT, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M, COMM, DOT, SLSH,RSFT, FN1, 1, 2, 3, \
LCTL, LALT, SPC, RALT, RCTL, 0, DOT, KP_MEM_ADD),
};
/*
Copyright 2011 Jun Wako <wakojun@gmail.com>
This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation, either version 2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
*/
/*
* Keymap for Phantom controller
*/
#include <stdint.h>
#include <stdbool.h>
#include <avr/pgmspace.h>
#include "keycode.h"
#include "print.h"
#include "debug.h"
#include "util.h"
#include "keymap.h"
// Convert physical keyboard layout to matrix array.
// This is a macro to define keymap easily in keyboard layout form.
#define KEYMAP( \
K5A, K5C, K5D, K5E, K5F, K5G, K5H, K5I, K5J, K5K, K5L, K5M, K5N, K5O, K5P, K5Q, \
K5B, K4A, K4B, K4C, K4D, K4E, K4F, K4G, K4H, K4I, K4J, K4K, K4L, K4N, K4O, K4P, K4Q, \
K3A, K3B, K3C, K3D, K3E, K3F, K3G, K3H, K3I, K3J, K3K, K3L, K3M, K3N, K3O, K3P, K3Q, \
K2A, K2B, K2C, K2D, K2E, K2F, K2G, K2H, K2I, K2J, K2K, K2L, K2N, K2O, K2P, K2Q, \
K1A, K1C, K1D, K1E, K1F, K1G, K1H, K1I, K1J, K1K, K1L, K1M, K1N, K1O, K1P, K1Q, \
K0A, K0C, K0H, K0K, K0N, K0O, K0P, K0Q \
) { \
/* A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q */ \
/* 0 */ { KC_##K0A, KC_NO, KC_##K0C, KC_NO , KC_NO , KC_NO , KC_NO , KC_##K0H, KC_NO , KC_NO , KC_##K0K, KC_NO , KC_NO , KC_##K0N, KC_##K0O, KC_##K0P, KC_##K0Q}, \
/* 1 */ { KC_##K1A, KC_NO , KC_##K1C, KC_##K1D, KC_##K1E, KC_##K1F, KC_##K1G, KC_##K1H, KC_##K1I, KC_##K1J, KC_##K1K, KC_##K1L, KC_##K1M, KC_##K1N, KC_##K1O, KC_##K1P, KC_##K1Q}, \
/* 2 */ { KC_##K2A, KC_##K2B, KC_##K2C, KC_##K2D, KC_##K2E, KC_##K2F, KC_##K2G, KC_##K2H, KC_##K2I, KC_##K2J, KC_##K2K, KC_##K2L, KC_NO , KC_##K2N, KC_##K2O, KC_##K2P, KC_##K2Q}, \
/* 3 */ { KC_##K3A, KC_##K3B, KC_##K3C, KC_##K3D, KC_##K3E, KC_##K3F, KC_##K3G, KC_##K3H, KC_##K3I, KC_##K3J, KC_##K3K, KC_##K3L, KC_##K3M, KC_##K3N, KC_##K3O, KC_##K3P, KC_##K3Q}, \
/* 4 */ { KC_##K4A, KC_##K4B, KC_##K4C, KC_##K4D, KC_##K4E, KC_##K4F, KC_##K4G, KC_##K4H, KC_##K4I, KC_##K4J, KC_##K4K, KC_##K4L, KC_NO , KC_##K4N, KC_##K4O, KC_##K4P, KC_##K4Q}, \
/* 5 */ { KC_##K5A, KC_##K5B, KC_##K5C, KC_##K5D, KC_##K5E, KC_##K5F, KC_##K5G, KC_##K5H, KC_##K5I, KC_##K5J, KC_##K5K, KC_##K5L, KC_##K5M, KC_##K5N, KC_##K5O, KC_##K5P, KC_##K5Q}, \
}
#define KEYCODE(layer, row, col) (pgm_read_byte(&keymaps[(layer)][(row)][(col)]))
// Assign Fn key(0-7) to a layer to which switch with the Fn key pressed.
static const uint8_t PROGMEM fn_layer[] = {
0, // Fn0
1, // Fn1
2, // Fn2
3, // Fn3
4, // Fn4
5, // Fn5
6, // Fn6
7 // Fn7
};
// Assign Fn key(0-7) to a keycode sent when release Fn key without use of the layer.
// See layer.c for details.
static const uint8_t PROGMEM fn_keycode[] = {
KC_FN0, // Fn0
KC_NO, // Fn1
KC_NO, // Fn2
KC_NO, // Fn3
KC_NO, // Fn4
KC_NO, // Fn5
KC_NO, // Fn6
KC_NO // Fn7
};
static const uint8_t PROGMEM keymaps[][MATRIX_ROWS][MATRIX_COLS] = {
/* Layer 0: Default Layer
*
* ANSI:
*
* ,---. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
* |Esc| |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|NmL|Pau|
* `---' `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
* ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
* |~ | 1| 2| 3| 4| 5| 6| 7| 8| 9| 0| -| =|Backsp | |Ins|Hom|PgU|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Tab | Q| W| E| R| T| Y| U| I| O| P| [| ]| \| |Del|End|PgD|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Caps | A| S| D| F| G| H| J| K| L| ;| '|Return | |???|???|???|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Shift | Z| X| C| V| B| N| M| ,| .| /|Shift| FN1| |???|Up |???|
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Ctl| |Alt| Space |Alt| |Ctl| |Lef|Dow|Rig|
* `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
*/
KEYMAP(\
ESC, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, PSCR, NLCK, BRK, \
GRV, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, MINS, EQL, BSPC, INS, HOME, PGUP, \
TAB, Q, W, E, R, T, Y, U, I, O, P, LBRC, RBRC, BSLS, DEL, END, PGDN, \
CAPS, A, S, D, F, G, H, J, K, L, SCLN, QUOT, ENT, 0, 0, 0, \
LSFT, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M, COMM, DOT, SLSH, RSFT, FN1, 0, UP, 0, \
LCTL, LALT, SPC, RALT, RCTL, LEFT, DOWN, RIGHT),
/*
* ,---. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,---------------. ,-----------.
* |Esc| |F1 |F2 |F3 |F4 | |F5 |F6 |F7 |F8 | |F9 |F10|F11|F12| |PrS|NmL|Pau|
* `---' `---------------' `---------------' `---------------' `-----------'
* ,-----------------------------------------------------------. ,-----------.
* |~ | 1| 2| 3| 4| 5| 6| 7| 8| 9| 0| -| =|Backsp | | / | * | - |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Tab |v++|V--|V__| R| T| Y| U| I| O| P| [| ]| \| | 7 | 8 | 9 |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Caps |MPRV|PLLY|MSTP|MNXT|G| H| J| K| L| ;| '|Return | | 4 | 5 | 6 |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |---|---|---|
* |Shift | Z| X| C| V| B| N| M| ,| .| /|Shift| FN1| | 1 | 2 | 3 |
* |-----------------------------------------------------------| |-----------|
* |Ctl| |Alt| Space |Alt| |Ctl| | 0 |Dot| + |
* `-----------------------------------------------------------' `-----------'
*/
KEYMAP(\
ESC, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, PSCR, NLCK, BRK, \
GRV, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, MINS, EQL, BSPC, PSLS, PAST, PMNS, \
TAB,VOLU,VOLD,MUTE, R, T, Y, U, I, O, P, LBRC, RBRC, BSLS, P7, P8, P9, \
CAPS,MPRV,MPLY,MSTP,MNXT, G, H, J, K, L, SCLN, QUOT, ENT, P4, P5, P6, \
LSFT, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M, COMM, DOT, SLSH,RSFT, FN1, P1, P2, P3, \
LCTL, LALT, SPC, RALT, RCTL, P0, PDOT, PPLS),
};
uint8_t keymap_get_keycode(uint8_t layer, uint8_t row, uint8_t col)
{
return KEYCODE(layer, row, col);
}
uint8_t keymap_fn_layer(uint8_t index)
{
return pgm_read_byte(&fn_layer[index]);
}
uint8_t keymap_fn_keycode(uint8_t index)
{
return pgm_read_byte(&fn_keycode[index]);
}
K1A, K1C, K1D, K1E, K1F, K1G, K1H, K1I, K1J, K1K, K1L, K1N, K10, K1P, K1Q, K1R, \and/* 1 */ { KC_##K1A, KC_NO , KC_##K1C, KC_##K1D, KC_##K1E, KC_##K1F, KC_##K1G, KC_##K1H, KC_##K1I, KC_##K1J, KC_##K1K, KC_##K1L, KC_##K1N, KC_##K1O, KC_##K1P, KC_##K1Q, KC_##K1R}, \And while they should technically work (each part of the macro glues the correct strings together), it would be stylistically correct to have them like this: K1A, K1C, K1D, K1E, K1F, K1G, K1H, K1I, K1J, K1K, K1L, K1M, K1N, K1O, K1P, K1Q, \and/* 1 */ { KC_##K1A, KC_NO , KC_##K1C, KC_##K1D, KC_##K1E, KC_##K1F, KC_##K1G, KC_##K1H, KC_##K1I, KC_##K1J, KC_##K1K, KC_##K1L, KC_##K1M, KC_##K1N, KC_##K1O, KC_##K1P, KC_##K1Q}, \well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
Stainless.
I think a lot of the people that initially voted for Alu were convinced to go SS after hearing everyone's arguments.
I understand the argument for stainless but I still like a bit of flex that alu could provide. And anodizing.well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
Stainless.
I think a lot of the people that initially voted for Alu were convinced to go SS after hearing everyone's arguments.
you shouldnt want flex in a plate...I understand the argument for stainless but I still like a bit of flex that alu could provide. And anodizing.well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
Stainless.
I think a lot of the people that initially voted for Alu were convinced to go SS after hearing everyone's arguments.
It's not flex so much as I don't know how I'd feel about it feeling like a switch mounted to a unmovable board.you shouldnt want flex in a plate...I understand the argument for stainless but I still like a bit of flex that alu could provide. And anodizing.well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
Stainless.
I think a lot of the people that initially voted for Alu were convinced to go SS after hearing everyone's arguments.
huh the stiffer the switch is the better it feels to me at least? have you never tried a plate mounted board?It's not flex so much as I don't know how I'd feel about it feeling like a switch mounted to a unmovable board.you shouldnt want flex in a plate...I understand the argument for stainless but I still like a bit of flex that alu could provide. And anodizing.well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
Stainless.
I think a lot of the people that initially voted for Alu were convinced to go SS after hearing everyone's arguments.
I have, never a SS plate though.huh the stiffer the switch is the better it feels to me at least? have you never tried a plate mounted board?It's not flex so much as I don't know how I'd feel about it feeling like a switch mounted to a unmovable board.you shouldnt want flex in a plate...I understand the argument for stainless but I still like a bit of flex that alu could provide. And anodizing.well i kinda need to know what way were going alu or ss because id like to get the form up tonight. I do have a place that could do anodizing now so idk if that changes any of you opinions
Stainless.
I think a lot of the people that initially voted for Alu were convinced to go SS after hearing everyone's arguments.
Phantom should have a center mount so it wouldn't be that big of a deal. TP, I've used filco, leopold and QFR so whatever those are. I'm not going to make a huge fuss about it if everyone wants SS, just me $.02.those are all steel probably powder coated or maybe some sort of enamel
Do you know if we are considering powder coating?at this time no and if we would the plates would have to be altered to adjust for the thickness of the powder coat
Electrical conductivity shouldn't be a factor. Steel is conductive. The anodizing is mainly for the color, not the extra surface protection or the making it less conductive, although those are bonuses.agreed
Electrical conductivity would really only be an issue if you are using an aluminum case, in which case you would want an aluminum plate to avoid galvanic corrosion. Over time the stainless plate could actually weld itself to the aluminum case. In a plastic case it's completely irrelevant.
which alu case are you going with? Because i dont think any current ones are compatible... Also all the ones being designed i believe have an integrated or semi integrated plate.Electrical conductivity would really only be an issue if you are using an aluminum case, in which case you would want an aluminum plate to avoid galvanic corrosion. Over time the stainless plate could actually weld itself to the aluminum case. In a plastic case it's completely irrelevant.
oh wow, i think a lot of us are going to a aluminium case, and that plates are stainless.
We could still use the plates from this GB though correct because the mounting holes should be the same?which alu case are you going with? Because i dont think any current ones are compatible... Also all the ones being designed i believe have an integrated or semi integrated plate.Electrical conductivity would really only be an issue if you are using an aluminum case, in which case you would want an aluminum plate to avoid galvanic corrosion. Over time the stainless plate could actually weld itself to the aluminum case. In a plastic case it's completely irrelevant.
oh wow, i think a lot of us are going to a aluminium case, and that plates are stainless.
We could still use the plates from this GB though correct because the mounting holes should be the same?which alu case are you going with? Because i dont think any current ones are compatible... Also all the ones being designed i believe have an integrated or semi integrated plate.Electrical conductivity would really only be an issue if you are using an aluminum case, in which case you would want an aluminum plate to avoid galvanic corrosion. Over time the stainless plate could actually weld itself to the aluminum case. In a plastic case it's completely irrelevant.
oh wow, i think a lot of us are going to a aluminium case, and that plates are stainless.
If you're really that concerned you can coat the joints with CPC, but to get the kind of corrosion that guy is talking about would take a LONG time. nothing to worry about.Actually, it can happen pretty rapidly.
As also mentioned, this plate will not fit any of the aluminum cases currently on the market, and probably never will, but just something to bear in mind.
I'm trying to figure out what to do now. :/ Don't have time to build it myself but no cases are out yet to get built in..i mean i could hold onto it... but idk how long itll be...
Even if you get it to fit, it will not be as stiff, the bend on the stock plate adds rigidity, something this lacks. How much you will lose is the only question.As also mentioned, this plate will not fit any of the aluminum cases currently on the market, and probably never will, but just something to bear in mind.
Not even the MKC case which has standoffs?
I guess it'd depend on how much room is left for the teensy.
which alu case are you going with? Because i dont think any current ones are compatible... Also all the ones being designed i believe have an integrated or semi integrated plate.Electrical conductivity would really only be an issue if you are using an aluminum case, in which case you would want an aluminum plate to avoid galvanic corrosion. Over time the stainless plate could actually weld itself to the aluminum case. In a plastic case it's completely irrelevant.
oh wow, i think a lot of us are going to a aluminium case, and that plates are stainless.
would I be able to use this plate on a Quickfire board to have the ability to sap springs/sliders?
would I be able to use this plate on a Quickfire board to have the ability to sap springs/sliders?
These plates will work with the case fine, but it's not compatible with a quickfire PCB. You need the cutout slot for the daughterboard. I posted this a few posts up, but these plates (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36907.0) have direct compatibility with case and PCB of a CM quickfire.
Aluminum won by a 2% margin, but I'm going to decide to get it done in Stainless steel for these reasons:dude i thought i was already doing that....
Bare aluminum is cheaper, but it will only look nicer than steel if it's color anodized, in which case it will cost more than steel. Most people will have plastic cases, so to retain the natural weight of a mechanical keyboard, the heavier steel should be more desirable in this regards. My original Phantom that I have on me has an aluminum plate, and the weight does feel a little awkward because it's lighter than every TKL keyboards that I've worked on. Lastly, going with color-anodized aluminum will require additional quotes, and these take at least a week, assuming I'm only going to ask for 1 color. There's no way I'll be able to request every custom color in the form for every plate. Time-wise, these plates are probably the limiting factor of this phantom round2 GB so I'd like to get into the ordering process without needing to request for anymore quotes.
The GB for these will be in stainless steel, 304 CRES grade with line graining finish only on the top surface. Does anyone want to volunteer to handle the logistics of taking orders, collecting money, and nag for payment? I would handle this, but my plate (pun intended) is full on this forum and real life stuff. Of course I'll help shipping and distribution, but help on collection payment would be nice.
dude i thought i was already doing that....
...or am i wrong?
yea... WFD must be super busy in RLdude i thought i was already doing that....
...or am i wrong?
for a moment I thought we were going to have 2 GBs for the same plates...
Ok I just looked over your order form again, guess you are haha. You didn't mention privately and I didn't assume anything. Quote is $22 per plate, maybe tack on a tad more for handling, but $3 overcharge is a bit much on your order form. I'm guessing you're doing almost all the shipping as well? I'll talk to you on gchat about all this.gahh though i told you ib was adding it to the gb, oops
Prof 125 layout is tempting but I guess finding keycaps to fit it is not gonna be straight forward, am I wrong?
WASDkeyboards is pretty much the only place to get custom caps for that layout. If you want it in PBTs or DS, you're pretty much SOL
Prof 125 layout is tempting but I guess finding keycaps to fit it is not gonna be straight forward, am I wrong?WASDkeyboards is pretty much the only place to get custom caps for that layout. If you want it in PBTs or DS, you're pretty much SOL
Yep wasd is about it unless you want blank caps then anywhere you can find the sizes will do.
I can add as many different plates to my gb as you want, it not hard to edit the for or update peoples orders... I believe there was minimum per plate design right?
I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming
I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming
Pretty please with 2 cherries on top? Double shot cherries that is.
is this only going to be for the non standard plates?I can add as many different plates to my gb as you want, it not hard to edit the for or update peoples orders... I believe there was minimum per plate design right?
There still needs to be a dedicated thread to handle the plates. If all the discussion were to all of a sudden shift to your thread, it'll get too messy with all the other things in there. Switches and stabilizers won't need a thread, but these plates would probably benefit from one.I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming
Pretty please with 2 cherries on top? Double shot cherries that is.
Are plates made from wfd or thebeast all going to prof? I noticed plate and prices were included in profs service thread. I am slightly confused.they were but not anymore. I am now only getting the ones that are specifically labeled to be sent to me.
Could someone tell me which of these plates are compatible with a A.87 Korean PCB?i thought bi answered this once but non of them will most likely.