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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: inlikeflynn on Fri, 05 April 2013, 16:15:34
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What you're ordering:
A 16 gauge (0.0625"), grade T304, 2b finished, laser cut, stainless steel 1800 (ANSI or ISO), 185x (ISO), 186x (ANSI), 3700 plate. These are based off design files from KBD and have been modified bt The_Beast to have phantom style cutouts to allow switch tops to be removed without de-soldering everything. A prototype plate design has been made and tested with the only issue being that the 2x stab switches didn't have their cutouts to allow top removal, which will be corrected before these are made
Prototype:
1800 plate on a keyboard. NOTE that you will have to cut out parts of the inside of your case for these or any 1800 plate to fit. I will have instructions on this later
(http://i.imgur.com/fy3JVnR.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/fy3JVnR.jpg)
Images:
image graphic of 1800 ANSI plate. This will fit any 101 key (winkeyless) 1800 with ANSI layout such as 1800/1813/1838
(http://i.imgur.com/TYeynVJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/TYeynVJ.png)
image graphic of 1800 ISO plate. This will fit any 102 key (winkeyless) 1800 with ISO layout
(http://i.imgur.com/CEZzONu.png) (http://i.imgur.com/CEZzONu.png)
image graphic of 185x ISO plate. This will fit any 105 key (winkey) 185x with ISO layout
(http://i.imgur.com/O4IMBuf.png) (http://i.imgur.com/O4IMBuf.png)
image graphic of 186x ANSI plate. This will fit any 104 key (winkey) 186x with ANSI layout such as 1863, 1865, & 1867 only
(http://i.imgur.com/Rxj2RuJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Rxj2RuJ.png)
image graphic of 3700 numpad plate
(http://i.imgur.com/c9SQDUL.png) (http://i.imgur.com/c9SQDUL.png)
1800/185x/186x Pricing:
still TBD for the larger quanties as the shop is very busy and we don't want to bug him a million times.
Remember these are big plates compared to a poker, so that is why they cost more.
FYI Each plate type has its own price tier, so I expect the 1800 to have many more orders than the 186x
1-2 plates are $33 each
10+ plates are less (TBD still)
20+ plates are even less (TBD still)
3700 Pricing:
still TBD for the larger quanties as the shop is very busy and we don't want to bug him a million times.
I just put the starting price as around a poker plate price as it shouldn't be more than that and to have something there
1-2 plates are $20 each
10+ plates are less (TBD still)
20+ plates are even less (TBD still)
Shipping:
Another TBD item here as I need to actually package up my other prototype plate and see. Again these are big plates and are harder to ship
Time Frame:
Orders are closed and I'm collecting payments now and hopefully enough are paid so that I can submit the order early next week. The_Beast will pickup the plates in late July or early August when they are done and ship them to me and then i'll ship out to everyone else
Payment:
Payment by Paypal only, +4% Paypal fee.
How to Order:
Fancy Order Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qre1lqEkZzDSP5hKezC5GQ1MJrry0ceKr1-GgY2RU24/viewform)
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current order numbers:
Quantity 1800 ANSI plate (101key winkeyless) = 14
Quantity 1800 ISO plate (102key winkeyless) = 5
Quantity 185x ISO plate (105key winkey) = 3
Quantity 186x ANSI plate (104key winkey) = 7
Quantity 3700 plate = 4
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WOooOooOoo! Let's do this!
Edit: 3700 plates?
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Ok order form link is fixed now
moose/turtle/troll/blower what r u talking about 3700 plates?
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So will this plate will fit into my Dolch PAC case, too? I know the PAC keyboards are a little different (lock LEDs are on a tiny daughter board for non-standard placement compared to the other G80-1800's I've seen), but if it will work, I'm in for one.
Edit - okay, so it looks like I'd probably have to mod the case a bit. Sounds fun.
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If we find me a dolch keyboard sans caps, I will get one of these plates!
So will this plate will fit into my Dolch PAC case, too? I know the PAC keyboards are a little different (lock LEDs are on a tiny daughter board for non-standard placement compared to the other G80-1800's I've seen), but if it will work, I'm in for one.
Oh I think it would, I hope so.
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Will you also post a guide on how to modify the case to support these?
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Ordered!
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So will this plate will fit into my Dolch PAC case, too? I know the PAC keyboards are a little different (lock LEDs are on a tiny daughter board for non-standard placement compared to the other G80-1800's I've seen), but if it will work, I'm in for one.
Edit - okay, so it looks like I'd probably have to mod the case a bit. Sounds fun.
yea I think it will fit just fine in a dolch with the same spots needing to be cut out. inside of the case is the same except the LED's being horizontal or vertical
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Will you also post a guide on how to modify the case to support these?
I sure will be
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Which cheap G81 do I need to buy on eBay to put my PAC62 board into?
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Which cheap G81 do I need to buy on eBay to put my PAC62 board into?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-1800-G81-1800HBAUS-Wired-Keyboard-/171007412694?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=BZkSK5U1f8fmjs6gjrHMRu9EWyQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-1800-G81-1800HBAUS-Wired-Keyboard-/171007412694?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=BZkSK5U1f8fmjs6gjrHMRu9EWyQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
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Which cheap G81 do I need to buy on eBay to put my PAC62 board into?
this guy usually is the cheapest and they are new: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHERRY-NEW-PC-KEYBOARD-G81-1800LUMUS-0-16-USB-/140937937377?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20d08e41e1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHERRY-NEW-PC-KEYBOARD-G81-1800LUMUS-0-16-USB-/140937937377?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20d08e41e1)
I'm also working on a write up on how to change a dolch 1813HFX into a normal 1800 in one of these cases
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Got one. Now to order a PS/2 cable from MiMiC...
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Got one. Now to order a PS/2 cable from MiMiC...
Just ordered one from him! A rose pink one! :)
And just filled out the form for a 1800 plate!
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WOooOooOoo! Let's do this!
Edit: 3700 plates?
I haven't tested the G80-3700 plates yet, but I don't know why it wouldn't work since it came with the other plates
Flynn can add it if he wants
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Ok order form link is fixed now
moose/turtle/troll/blower what r u talking about 3700 plates?
They were mentioned in passing to possibly be included with this buy.
I'm willing to take the risk, Beasty. What's the worst that could happen?
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These look massive compared to the plates we're use to seeing.
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Ach, you're fookin' killin' me! Didn't you just finish the Poker plate GB?! Must... have... moar... plates...
Order placed. I'll eat beans and rice for a month, but I'll have plates for the G80 on the way.
:'(
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So i can just build this in by desoldering all switches and resoldering them?
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What next, a G80-1800 PCB group Buy?
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So i can just build this in by desoldering all switches and resoldering them?
Yes, and modifying the case, which flynn will let us know how to do.
What next, a G80-1800 PCB group Buy?
I'd be in.
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So i can just build this in by desoldering all switches and resoldering them?
Yes, and modifying the case, which flynn will let us know how to do.
What next, a G80-1800 PCB group Buy?
I'd be in.
Somebody would probably make a G80-1800 Alu case too.
Wallethack at it's best
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No love for ISO?
I'd be interested in a 3700 plate if they are offered.
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What next, a G80-1800 PCB group Buy?
I'd be in.
Somebody would probably make a G80-1800 Alu case too.
Wallethack at it's best
master plan for 1800 world domination :
phase1 = 1800 specific keys, put on hold due to lack of interest & high cost: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39731.0
phase2 = 1800 plates in this thread
phase3 = custom 1800 PCB to get rid of stupid jumper requirement with diodes on PCB for NKRO (with controller support of course) and maybe LEDs
phase4 = custom 1800 controller to support NKRO/6KRO, LEDs, & other TBD features.
phase5 = custom case
phase5 though is the only one which isn't a sure thing as the cost there will be through the roof. phase3/4 will likely not be until next winter, but will happen and then anyone can have an 1800 without the difficulty of finding one in the US
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Ok order form link is fixed now
moose/turtle/troll/blower what r u talking about 3700 plates?
They were mentioned in passing to possibly be included with this buy.
I'm willing to take the risk, Beasty. What's the worst that could happen?
oh yea, I forgot we had the files for 3700 too (and well 3000's as well). I'll add 3700 plates into this GB as well then later this weekend.
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flynn, do you think a 1800 case that is made sort of how the LZ cases are made (the top piece is the most intricate, the bottom just being a plate) would be possible and possibly cheaper than one that has two milled pieces, top and bottom?
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When you add the 3700 plates, just go ahead and add one to my order.
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These look massive compared to the plates we're use to seeing.
instead of a BFG you can think of these as a BFP ;D
only thing larger would be a 3000 plate
Ach, you're fookin' killin' me! Didn't you just finish the Poker plate GB?! Must... have... moar... plates...
Order placed. I'll eat beans and rice for a month, but I'll have plates for the G80 on the way.
:'(
lol. well the poker plates was Beast's GB, which in a way this is as well as he is the magic man who gets them made
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flynn, do you think a 1800 case that is made sort of how the LZ cases are made (the top piece is the most intricate, the bottom just being a plate) would be possible and possibly cheaper than one that has two milled pieces, top and bottom?
it might be. the bottom part on an existing 1800 case is pretty basic to begin with. the top part though with its size and cutouts and angles is what will be so expensive to get made i suspect. i haven't thought about this part much as its the last phase of the master plan
When you add the 3700 plates, just go ahead and add one to my order.
ok will do
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No love for ISO?
I'd be interested in a 3700 plate if they are offered.
only reason I don't have ISO on here is because we don't have the files made. I see WFD has made ISO phantom plates, so maybe if he can share the file or dimensions with The_Beast, then I can get him to modify one of these into ISO. No promises but I will ask these guys about that
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No love for ISO?
I'd be interested in a 3700 plate if they are offered.
only reason I don't have ISO on here is because we don't have the files made. I see WFD has made ISO phantom plates, so maybe if he can share the file or dimensions with The_Beast, then I can get him to modify one of these into ISO. No promises but I will ask these guys about that
If you send me the plate drawing, I can swap an ISO enter and short left shift in there.
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No love for ISO?
I'd be interested in a 3700 plate if they are offered.
only reason I don't have ISO on here is because we don't have the files made. I see WFD has made ISO phantom plates, so maybe if he can share the file or dimensions with The_Beast, then I can get him to modify one of these into ISO. No promises but I will ask these guys about that
If you send me the plate drawing, I can swap an ISO enter and short left shift in there.
I don't have the files, so I asked Beast if he would have time todo this himself or send them to you if not. thanks for offering to help jdcarpe!
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Beast already has my Phantom plate files. He can do it himself or send this G80 plate file to me or jdcarpe.
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I don't own g80 but I think it's layout is cool. Do these not come plate mounted? This buy is pretty rare no? It would be fun to build a custom g80 no doubt but I really do not need this at all. Not even a little bit. So I will order ASAP.
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Flynn, just found this GB plates going, FOR A G80-1800 :p Placed my order.
Nice to finally see the 1800 series get some more loving here on Geekhack. And a BIG YES if you ever decide to make PCB's and/or FULL Aluminum Cases for these wonderful creations.
This is were money needs to be spent on. Filco's, poker's, KMac's and LH-GZ's already get so much attention but the 1800 keeps getting ignored on here, but I was right about you Flynn. If there is going to be a huge renaissance with the Cherry 1800 series, it'll always start with you. 8)
Thank you so much for this.
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If anyone needs a project board - donor G80-1800 - to use this steel plate with, they're currently on Ebay.de for about $13.00.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Shipping to the US will probably triple the price, but you may be able to work a deal with someone to defray the costs/share shipping. I ordered one of these, waiting to see if I win another auction before getting it shipped to me.
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If anyone needs a project board - donor G80-1800 - to use this steel plate with, they're currently on Ebay.de for about $13.00.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
Shipping to the US will probably triple the price, but you may be able to work a deal with someone to defray the costs/share shipping. I ordered one of these, waiting to see if I win another auction before getting it shipped to me.
Damn fine price there. Interested in buying a couple to do some mods with. How much to ship it to a Prison Colony known as Australia, that's if it's available?
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If anyone needs a project board - donor G80-1800 - to use this steel plate with, they're currently on Ebay.de for about $13.00.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
Shipping to the US will probably triple the price, but you may be able to work a deal with someone to defray the costs/share shipping. I ordered one of these, waiting to see if I win another auction before getting it shipped to me.
Damn fine price there. Interested in buying a couple to do some mods with. How much to ship it to a Prison Colony known as Australia, that's if it's available?
You'd have to check with the seller. I'm having a proxy in Germany buy it for me, ship it plus some other board(s) in a DHL package. Be aware these are "refurbished," that can mean "rather grubby." I think this link is to the units with USB connections, they're also selling PS/2 cabled units for one Euro less. Pics at the link from someone who bought one from this seller;
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-g80-1800-refurbished-for-14-t5501.html
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In for one plate since I only have one 1800, but if someone wants to sell me another 1800 I'm interested and I'll get an additional plate.
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OP has been updated with new plate options
-3700
-1800 ISO (102key winkeyless)
-185x ISO (105key winkey)
big thanks to jdcarpe for agreeing to modify the ANSI files into ISO
moose I added a 3700 to yours as requested
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Sweet. Thanks, flynn, Beast, jd, WFD, and everyone else who had a hand in these plates coming to fruition.
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I don't own g80 but I think it's layout is cool. Do these not come plate mounted? This buy is pretty rare no? It would be fun to build a custom g80 no doubt but I really do not need this at all. Not even a little bit. So I will order ASAP.
pretty much all Cherry branded boards are PCB mounted. there is one super rare terminal board one that has a plate. But anything recent like 1800s or 3000s are PCB mount
I like your logic on deciding to order or not :) sounds a lot like myself
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Flynn, just found this GB plates going, FOR A G80-1800 :p Placed my order.
Nice to finally see the 1800 series get some more loving here on Geekhack. And a BIG YES if you ever decide to make PCB's and/or FULL Aluminum Cases for these wonderful creations.
This is were money needs to be spent on. Filco's, poker's, KMac's and LH-GZ's already get so much attention but the 1800 keeps getting ignored on here, but I was right about you Flynn. If there is going to be a huge renaissance with the Cherry 1800 series, it'll always start with you. 8)
Thank you so much for this.
thanks for the kind words my friend from down under :)
If anyone needs a project board - donor G80-1800 - to use this steel plate with, they're currently on Ebay.de for about $13.00.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/120985659205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
Shipping to the US will probably triple the price, but you may be able to work a deal with someone to defray the costs/share shipping. I ordered one of these, waiting to see if I win another auction before getting it shipped to me.
I just added the ISO option to the op, so now there actually is a plate you can use on the ISO boards you linked
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I just remembered. On the G80-3700's, since the plate is so short, it cannot go through the large deburring/sanding machine so the don't really have the brushed look like all the other plates I've done. They can be ground by hand (angle grinder) by the laser shop, but the finish isn't nearly as consistent as if it had gone through the sanding machine (even the machine isn't 100% consistent, but it's miles ahead of the hand ground).
Just a word of warning!
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image's of ISO plate design added to OP and order numbers updated!
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Sent in a new order (hoping this replaces my older order...), to get one of each of the 18xx variations. No idea which board I'm going to use these on, so I'm covering all my bases. :D
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By the way, I installed my G80-3700 plate and there is one thing that needs to be changed so that it will allow you to change the two 2u vertical keys. Also, the case does need a bit of filing/cutting since there is a rib on the top of the case that doesn't allow you to close the case without filing.
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Would it be possible for the plate to be adjusted to add a slot/place for that rib?
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No. If I did then it would be a 2 piece plate
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Okay, just curious. I haven't opened my 3700 yet, so no idea what the rib in question looked like or how big it was. Thanks, Beast.
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Okay, just curious. I haven't opened my 3700 yet, so no idea what the rib in question looked like or how big it was. Thanks, Beast.
No problem. See the center hole thingy, where the top (esc, ctrl...) attaches to the bottom, you have to cut or file that part of the top of the case. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.
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Any possibility of getting sand blasted plates? They look really good.
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Any possibility of getting sand blasted plates? They look really good.
Unless Flynn has plans for offering more finishes (he'd have to fined someone himself), no
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I think I'll just need to buy an air compressor eventually and make my own sand blasting kit. Would also come in handy for giving texture back to keyboard keys. I wonder if people would pay for that as a service.
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How much would it cost me to have a one-off stainless steel plate made for the SkiData? I like the keyboard a lot, but it does have a certain amount of flex, as it's not really supported very will in the big blue case.
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Any possibility of getting sand blasted plates? They look really good.
Unless Flynn has plans for offering more finishes (he'd have to fined someone himself), no
what would a sandblasted plate look like?
How much would it cost me to have a one-off stainless steel plate made for the SkiData? I like the keyboard a lot, but it does have a certain amount of flex, as it's not really supported very will in the big blue case.
You're talking about just the bottom part of the keyboard which works right? Not all the worthless keys up top that don't work?
And even the bottom part isn't the exact same as an 1800. the space between the alpha/arrows/numpad is larger than on a real 1800. So you'd have to get Beast or jdcarpe or someone with CAD skills to make the modifications. I would guess it would cost about the same as a single 1-off 1800 plate. Also, I don't recall what the inside bottom of the SkiData case looks like, so it may need more or less modifications than a normal 1800 case
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WFD has a sandblasted plate picture in one of the plate threads. It looks really nice just like a titanium or aluminum sandblasted spacebar.
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How much would it cost me to have a one-off stainless steel plate made for the SkiData? I like the keyboard a lot, but it does have a certain amount of flex, as it's not really supported very will in the big blue case.
You're talking about just the bottom part of the keyboard which works right? Not all the worthless keys up top that don't work?
And even the bottom part isn't the exact same as an 1800. the space between the alpha/arrows/numpad is larger than on a real 1800. So you'd have to get Beast or jdcarpe or someone with CAD skills to make the modifications. I would guess it would cost about the same as a single 1-off 1800 plate. Also, I don't recall what the inside bottom of the SkiData case looks like, so it may need more or less modifications than a normal 1800 case
I'd be interested in a complete plate - the Function row is part of the upper keyboard area, and those keys do work.
I suspect it's a lot of work for a very small sub-set of keyboards, but I figured I'd ask!
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How much would it cost me to have a one-off stainless steel plate made for the SkiData? I like the keyboard a lot, but it does have a certain amount of flex, as it's not really supported very will in the big blue case.
You're talking about just the bottom part of the keyboard which works right? Not all the worthless keys up top that don't work?
And even the bottom part isn't the exact same as an 1800. the space between the alpha/arrows/numpad is larger than on a real 1800. So you'd have to get Beast or jdcarpe or someone with CAD skills to make the modifications. I would guess it would cost about the same as a single 1-off 1800 plate. Also, I don't recall what the inside bottom of the SkiData case looks like, so it may need more or less modifications than a normal 1800 case
I'd be interested in a complete plate - the Function row is part of the upper keyboard area, and those keys do work.
I suspect it's a lot of work for a very small sub-set of keyboards, but I figured I'd ask!
yea I mean above the function row being the part which doesn't work at all. to plate all those non-working keys likely would make this a $50-60 plate as it would be massive
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I ordered a 3700 plate to try out :) could you let me know if you got the order because the number of orders hasn't been updated yet. Thanks!
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A few issues with the G80-3700 plate have been fixed.
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the date on this is going to be extended out a bit as i'm too busy with the MY7000 doubleshot stuff and other projects to close out another GB right now
New last order date will be May 24th, payments collected that next week, and order placed on May 31st.
Beast is confirming what the price tiers will be as well.
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Sounds perfect to me!
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the date on this is going to be extended out a bit as i'm too busy with the MY7000 doubleshot stuff and other projects to close out another GB right now
New last order date will be May 24th, payments collected that next week, and order placed on May 31st.
Beast is confirming what the price tiers will be as well.
Bless you, my son!
And my wallet gives a sigh of relief as well... For some reason, there sure seem to have been a lot of GBs all coming to fruition at the same time as taxes were due, not an auspicious confluence of events.
:-X
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I can't remember will one of these plate options fit a regular Dolch PAC?
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I can't remember will one of these plate options fit a regular Dolch PAC?
it should if you cut out the case. someday I will have to try that along with finally writing up how/where to cut out a normal case. I have a bunch of extra dolch pac cases so I can cut one up no problem
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Ordered one!
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New last order date will be May 24th, payments collected that next week, and order placed on May 31st.
Very nice, a quick Group Buy to end so perfectly. Thank you Flynn ;D .
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Just placed another order for an ISO plate for a very special keyboard.
Thank you buddy, just add this plate with the previous others I've already selected. I want to drown with these babies, very soon ;) .
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Bring on da plates!!!
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Any update on this? It's been so quiet for so long :)
Does the 3700 case still need to be modified to fit the plate?
And is the timeframe still going to work?
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Does the 3700 case still need to be modified to fit the plate?
Yes it does
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I didn't realize it was a holiday weekend when I set the new end date. I'm going to try and PM everyone tomorrow to confirm their order, as i'm worried I messed up the google doc when I added the other 3 options in and don't want to get stuck with a bunch of ISO plates people don't want
I haven't opened up an 3700 yet, but Beast said its case needs to get cut, so i'd say yes
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I haven't opened up an 3700 yet, but Beast said its case needs to get cut, so i'd say yes
It really isn't much of a mod. It's around 10 minutes of filing and isn't hard at all
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ok PM's have been sent out to confirm orders.
If you ONLY ordered the 1800 ANSI plate (101key winkeyless) then I did not PM you as I know that column for sure didn't get messed up in the form
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Quotes are in an sent to inlikeflynn
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I have a feeling that after doing this mod I'll get the itch to wire my G80-1813 for >2KRO. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and track down a G80-1865 (I actually need the winkeys for windows 8 anyways). So... can anyone confirm that a G80-1865 PCB will fit in a Dolch PAC case?
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I have a feeling that after doing this mod I'll get the itch to wire my G80-1813 for >2KRO. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and track down a G80-1865 (I actually need the winkeys for windows 8 anyways). So... can anyone confirm that a G80-1865 PCB will fit in a Dolch PAC case?
As long as you are planning on having to cut out the back of the Dolch case already for the USB connectors, there shouldn't be any other reason it wouldn't fit. I've never tried it myself, but haven't had any issues moving around any other 18xx's and 186x's between each others top case parts
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Ok here is what the prices are going to be then at the various quantities things are currently at:
$23.50 = 1800 ANSI plate (101key winkeyless)
$24.50 = 185x ISO plate (105key winkey)
$14.50 = 3700 plate
$28.50 = 1800 ISO plate (102key winkeyless)
$24.50 = 186x ANSI plate (104key winkey)
There is $.50 added onto each to cover shipping the big old box of plates to me.
Shipping from me-to-you isn't known yet and likely will invoice that separately after I have the plates
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Cool :) those are pretty decent prices. Good job guys!
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Aye, I'm very pleased with that price. When are you going to close orders?
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oh, just saw yr pm....and replied.....pls check flynn.
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at long last invoices have been sent out for these plates!
Once the majority have paid i'll have Beast submit the order which will then hopefully put us on schedule for these getting to me in early August and then shipping out shortly thereafter
So about a month behind what I originally hoped :-[
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Just got my invoice. Planing to pay on Friday, is that okay?
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Just got my invoice. Planing to pay on Friday, is that okay?
no problem
and no surprise who the 1st one to pay was here mr. jd :)
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Yep, just made the payment for this. Thanks Flynn.
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Yep, just made the payment for this. Thanks Flynn.
Thanks Elrick and everyone else who is paying up so quickly!
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I thought this was dead.
Good job flynn! Paid.
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I thought this was dead.
Same here but so glad Flynn is still running it. After all we are all looking for that something special for our 1800's and Flynn is always the one that delivers.
Besides he is a fanatic and they take the longest time to perfect an order/item so that it arrives in our hands perfectly ready to use.
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Paid.
;D
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Order has been sent in!
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(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu254/OnThInIcE911/2p2%20random/Alison%20Brie/Yay.gif)
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Picked up the plates today. However, there is some bad news. I'll be uploading pictures in a bit and updating with options going forward.
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So the plates look like this. Which isn't what I wanted since you can see splatter marks on the front (look at the top of the switch cutout). They should have a brushed type finish on the front. I've determined that the cutter didn't sand the burrs off giving the plate a brushed finish since they may not have been too many burrs.
(http://i.imgur.com/EszTQcIh.jpg)
But that's not so bad. However, on some of the plate they did take an angle grinder to get rid of some burrs (apparently not enough to send through the machine like they have every other time I've ordered from them). You can see in the image below the ground and 2b stainless finish mixed together.
(http://i.imgur.com/yvGGOjxh.jpg)
Here is a picture of all 3 finishes. The top plate on the left is the finish they should have came with. The plate under it, in the middle is what I did in my shop. and the bottom is the standard 2b finish not showing any of the angle ground finish (it seems like a lot of them have it)
(http://i.imgur.com/9djJ50Th.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NNHsslDh.jpg)
So here are the options with pros and cons
A) Send them back to the cutter to have the top left finish applied
- Pro
- Finished with no cost (I think)
- Cons
- This could take a while. If I does, I won't be able to ship them myself. That means I have to ship all of them to Flynn and he would ship them. It seems like Flynn is short on time, so I don't know when you would get your plate
B) Have me finish them with the middle plate finish
- Pro
- I have them sooner and I wouldn't need to ship to Flynn to ship to you (Again, Flynn doesn't seem to have a lot of time, so that could take a while)
- Seems to be more consistent than sending back to the cutter (The cutters finish sometimes misses spots and he doesn't care since the only thing he cares about are burrs)
- Con
- Takes my time, material and machines so I'm going to charge $4 per plate to refinish
C) Do nothing
- Pro
- Get you plates the fastest and cheapest
- Con
- Have to finish yourself (elbow grease, + sandpaper)
So what do you guys want to do? Also, as stated in the OP, 3700 plates cannot be finished by me or the cutter. You'll have to do that yourself.
***********Also, about shipping. I was thinking there are 3 ways to ship. Wrapped in thick packing paper + 1 layer of bubble wrap, a backer board make of 1/4" hardboard + 1 layer of bubble wrap + packing paper or a large game board box (that's the only box that will fit a 1800 that is a standard size USPS shipping box).
Thoughts?
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B) Have me finish them with the middle plate finish
- Pro
- I have them sooner and I wouldn't need to ship to Flynn to ship to you (Again, Flynn doesn't seem to have a lot of time, so that could take a while)
- Seems to be more consistent than sending back to the cutter (The cutters finish sometimes misses spots and he doesn't care since the only thing he cares about are burrs)
- Con
- Takes my time, material and machines so I'm going to charge $4 per plate to refinish
I choose the one above. I don't mind paying an extra $4.00 per plate (even though I forgot how many I paid for) if you can guarantee a near PERFECT finish that is all uniform across the plate.
All laser cutting services don't care about the quality of finish as long as a cut was made. Usually someone else will need to finish the item off (always the customers).
Just let me know how much you'll want in total. Thank you.
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I saw a sandblasted plate once and it looked amazing, why isn't it an option in any plate buys?
PS: I'll take what ever is most convenient for you guys running the group buy.
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I saw a sandblasted plate once and it looked amazing, why isn't it an option in any plate buys?
PS: I'll take what ever is most convenient for you guys running the group buy.
I don't know of any sandblasters and it would more then likely cause this con
- Cons
- This could take a while. If I does, I won't be able to ship them myself. That means I have to ship all of them to Flynn and he would ship them. It seems like Flynn is short on time, so I don't know when you would get your plate
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Personally I'd prefer Option C, as I have a crate full of different grades of sandpaper after my case painting experiment. But I'll go along with the majority vote, the estimated extra costs are very reasonable.
For shipping, I really liked the hard backer-board included with the Poker plates, packaging/shipping the G80 plates the same way would be swell.
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I'll be picking up the hardboard and cutting it today and will more than likely sanding them tomorrow unless there is a large out cry for another option. Invoicing will be Friday/Saturday if Flynn gets me who ordered them and shipping Monday. Please pay ASAP so I can get this done before I head back to school
Estimated Conus shipping: $13 (Priority)
Estimated Inter. shipping:$24 (First class)
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I'm fine with either B or C.
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Run mine through your machine, Beast.
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Doesn't matter for me since I only ordered a 3700.
I'll be picking up the hardboard and cutting it today and will more than likely sanding them tomorrow unless there is a large out cry for another option. Invoicing will be Friday/Saturday if Flynn gets me who ordered them and shipping Monday. Please pay ASAP so I can get this done before I head back to school
Estimated Conus shipping: $13 (Priority)
Estimated Inter. shipping:$24 (First class)
Is only shipping the 3700 also this expensive international?
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Doesn't matter for me since I only ordered a 3700.
I'll be picking up the hardboard and cutting it today and will more than likely sanding them tomorrow unless there is a large out cry for another option. Invoicing will be Friday/Saturday if Flynn gets me who ordered them and shipping Monday. Please pay ASAP so I can get this done before I head back to school
Estimated Conus shipping: $13 (Priority)
Estimated Inter. shipping:$24 (First class)
Is only shipping the 3700 also this expensive international?
I doubt it will be $24 since that should be the price of 1 1800 plate + backer wrapped in packing paper and bubble wrap. I'll look at just shipping the 3700 plate later.
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so the good man Mr_Beast will be doing everyone a huge favor by shipping these out directly. Instead of all to me and then everyone waiting for slow old me. So the good is that you will get them much much sooner than otherwise.
please do let him know though if you would like option "B" or "C" done on your plates.
also he has access to the spreadsheet and all the info, so he will be invoicing you directly for shipping
thanks thanks thanks to The_Beast
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so the good man Mr_Beast will be doing everyone a huge favor by shipping these out directly. Instead of all to me and then everyone waiting for slow old me. So the good is that you will get them much much sooner than otherwise.
please do let him know though if you would like option "B" or "C" done on your plates.
also he has access to the spreadsheet and all the info, so he will be invoicing you directly for shipping
thanks thanks thanks to The_Beast
I'd really like to do everything at once. If you'd REALLY like option C, let me know before tomorrow morning (I'll be leaving for the shop around 9am CST) otherwise everything will be finished to option B
Again, since the 3700 plates are so small, they cannot be refinished by me or my laser cutter. You'll have to finish them yourself with some sand paper. (All this info should have been in the OP if it wasn't)
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I'm fine with b or c, but whatever is most convenient for you guys.
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I'm fine with b or c, but whatever is most convenient for you guys.
I can tell you that when I had the prototype 3700 plate made, it took at least 1 hour (maybe 2) of wet sanding with a 220 grit sanding stone to take off the 2b finish get a consistant brushed finish look. Granted, 60 grit would have been fast so, your results may vary.
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Plates are sanded and packed. Invoicing for shipping will be happening soon
(http://i.imgur.com/dGmfQx8.jpg)
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Everyone should have been invoiced! Pay as soon as possible please since I want these out of my hair
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Everyone should have been invoiced! Pay as soon as possible please since I want these out of my hair
Just paid in full your requested amount.
Thank you for arranging this I can't wait to start removing all the switches off the pcb and placing them unto these plates. Although I do need the pics on how to dremel out the casing of the 1800 so that it all sits in tight and comfortable.
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Ok here is a quick and dirty summary on what to cut out of your case to make the plate fit. I will re-do this with a beige case eventually so its easier to see, but for now here it is on the original black case
I'd strongly recommend using an X-acto knife and NOT a dremel to make these cuts. The plastic is soft and easy to cut with a knife. The dremel will just melt the plastic and you'll have to clean it up with a knife anyways
In total there are 8 different spots you need to remove case material. Cuts #1 & #2 are the only tricky ones. The rest will not matter if you remove a longer section than needed
(http://i.imgur.com/cPND7US.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/cPND7US.jpg)
On all of the cuts you should remove about 1/3rd of the height to allow room for the plate
(http://i.imgur.com/nQBq8Ye.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/nQBq8Ye.jpg)
Close up of the cuts around the arrow keys (1,2,3 &4). Be extra careful with #1 & #2 to not cut off the corner or the removal will be visible from above and not look clean.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZK3eJDW.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ZK3eJDW.jpg)
Close up of the cuts up between the LED's/alpha/numpad area:
(http://i.imgur.com/hz8ZoJr.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hz8ZoJr.jpg)
Close up of the cuts up between the number row and the function row:
(http://i.imgur.com/mH4NnQ3.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/mH4NnQ3.jpg)
And then you are done! If you have the 2 screws for connecting the bottom half to top half of the case, i'd recommend installing those as well. With the plate + those screws it is like a tank
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Ok here is a quick and dirty summary on what to cut out of your case to make the plate fit.
Thank you so much for this visual presentation :thumb: . So it looks like the plate simply drops into position within the case structure (after making the modifications)?
Can't wait to try it out on one 1800 keyboard. Hope not to stuff it up.
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Paid! Looking forward to trying out the plate :) thanks for doing this guys!
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Paid.
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Dianoda
esoomenona
BimboBB
ApocalypseMaow
binge
dorkvader
Quick list of unpaid. I'll be shipping paid orders tomorrow
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Paid, sorry for the delay. Was away from computers all weekend but figured you couldn't ship until Monday anyways :p
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Paid, sorry for the delay. Was away from computers all weekend but figured you couldn't ship until Monday anyways :p
I just printed labels..... :(
I'll just have to print yours in the morning
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Will pay tonight.
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I just printed labels..... :(
I'll just have to print yours in the morning
No rush I won't have my custom 1800 PCB from Korea for several weeks
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Paid, thanks.
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Oops... I'll send the moneys now!
I just printed labels..... :(
I'll just have to print yours in the morning
No rush I won't have my custom 1800 PCB from Korea for several weeks
HEY!!! Where you getting those... ;D
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Unpaid:
BimboBB
binge
dorkvader
Unshipped:
ApocalypseMaow
ApocalypseMaow, if you would have paid like 15 minutes early than you did, I would have shipped today :(
Please pay shipping by Thursday since I'll be moving back to school this Saturday!
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ApocalypseMaow, if you would have paid like 15 minutes early than you did, I would have shipped today :(
No worries Beast! Sorry for the late payment.
P.S. I'm drop off the poker plate for bending this week. I'll keep you posted! ;D
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ApocalypseMaow, if you would have paid like 15 minutes early than you did, I would have shipped today :(
No worries Beast! Sorry for the late payment.
P.S. I'm drop off the poker plate for bending this week. I'll keep you posted! ;D
P.S. I am excite!
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HEY!!! Where you getting those... ;D
Trade nice things to Koreans :(
wish there was an easier way or that I had better hookups.
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HEY!!! Where you getting those... ;D
Trade nice things to Koreans :(
wish there was an easier way or that I had better hookups.
Bummer... Thanks for reply Dan! Sorry for the OT here Beast, but yeah. Pumped to see how it turns out!!!
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HEY!!! Where you getting those... ;D
Trade nice things to Koreans :(
wish there was an easier way or that I had better hookups.
Bummer... Thanks for reply Dan! Sorry for the OT here Beast, but yeah. Pumped to see how it turns out!!!
I have no problem with OT post (to an extent). I am excited too!
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The remaining plates will be shipped today!
BimboBB
binge
dorkvader
ApocalypseMaow
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Plate arrived safely. Packaged very well! Looks awesome.
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I received my plate today, as well. Nice job with the sanding, Beast. :)
Now where did I pack that Dolch PCB when I moved?...
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I received my plate today, as well. Nice job with the sanding, Beast. :)
Now where did I pack that Dolch PCB when I moved?...
Not sand blasted. It's the same machine the laser place has but much much smaller (they have a surface sand with a digital thickness gauge, I just have a surface sander that is manual). They only do one pass and that's why my plates tend to be bowed a bit. I did 5-6 lighter passes and they shouldn't be bowed nearly as much. They also may use a higher grit than I did, I used 60, I think they may use around 80 or 120 since the grain of there's is much finer
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I got my plates too :)
I'd like to say thanks yet again to The_Beast as without him this GB could have never happened!!!!
Also thanks to jdcarpe for helping with the ISO plate cad files
and of course KBD for the original plate designs
and somebody needs to hook me up with one of these korean 1800 PCBs......kinda strange how mr. 1800 will be the one without one :-\
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I too would like to at least see what the custom PCBs have to offer!
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I too would like to at least see what the custom PCBs have to offer!
single PCB, USB, 6KRO, LED's on every switch & programmable is my understanding of what they offer
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I got my plates too :)
I'd like to say thanks yet again to The_Beast as without him this GB could have never happened!!!!
Also thanks to jdcarpe for helping with the ISO plate cad files
and of course KBD for the original plate designs
and somebody needs to hook me up with one of these korean 1800 PCBs......kinda strange how mr. 1800 will be the one without one :-\
Let's just make our own 1800 PCB's
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I too would like to at least see what the custom PCBs have to offer!
single PCB, USB, 6KRO, LED's on every switch & programmable is my understanding of what they offer
Oh wow! Now you have to find one for the both of us!
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Let's just make our own 1800 PCB's
that was one of the phases in my 1800 world domination master plan....maybe it will continue more this winter or maybe not
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Let's just make our own 1800 PCB's
that was one of the phases in my 1800 world domination master plan....maybe it will continue more this winter or maybe not
Should have ran plates and PCBs at the same time!
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I'm in for a PCB.
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I'm in for a PCB.
Same here.
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I'm in for a PCB.
Same here.
Ditto.
At least one. Maybe three.
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Posting this here for exposure
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48078.0
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Posting this here for exposure
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48078.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48078.0)
Very smart. Looks like the 1800 is finally being recognized in 2013. I hope I can still fit the Stainless Plate into this keyboard housing?
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Received my 3700 plate last week. Perfect as always :)
Now to find time to sand it and build it into my 3700 ^^
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Would users be interested in this? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48221
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There wouldn't happen to be any spares left for the 1800 right? :-X
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Got the plates.
Not sure what switch should i replace the Dolch PCB with.
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Would users be interested in this? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48221 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48221)
YES, this user is interested 8) .