[IC] GMK. WOB & BOW. NORDEUK++ EXT. ADD-ON KIT [UPDATE] GB PREP - 26.03.2019

[ideus]

There are four keys that may be dropped off the set to save some bucks. While they are not redundant they may be replaced with other keys in the set:

...

4. Eliminate the number 2 and double quotes key. One more time there are three similar keys where any of the remaining similar keys may replace the one that has these two symbols only.


This may save around five dollars at 150 sets GMK pricing.

This key is used in ISO UK so I'm particularly keen on it staying in, would rather not have tertiary legends that make no sense for my layout.
Additionally, if this is over $5 I'm really not sure it's worth removing keys because some are "similar".

Previous offerings of similar international kits got very low demand. You want this being done even if it does not match what you need exactly than not been done at all. Personally, I would pay for the set as it is even when I may use half the keys, but most people do not buy it at all. Even in sets with huge demand like carbon, people did not buy the Norde kit, as a guy who is trying to sell the eight extra sets he bought just for the purpose to assure that MoQ was reached. Just my two cents. PD if thertiary legends are not included I do not need the set.

[eskimojo]

It just seems counterintuitive to me to try and get more people by catering to less, that's all.

[CandyKeys]

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

[DJSwayde]

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

But then that would screw over people who just want the add-on.

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[dorf]

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

I'm guessing having a vendor onboard would always help a kit like this. I'm saying this without knowing the result of the poll though.

[CandyKeys]

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

But then that would screw over people who just want the add-on.

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Oh that is not what we meant like that, as in we would want to help the add-on so customers can get the add-on or also get a full kit.

[DJSwayde]

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

But then that would screw over people who just want the add-on.

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Oh that is not what we meant like that, as in we would want to help the add-on so customers can get the add-on or also get a full kit.

Gotcha. My apologies.

[ideus]

As long as the add-on kit is available stand alone and optinally with a full set, a few more orders may get generated.

[vegs]

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

Woo!

As long as the add-on kit is available stand alone and optinally with a full set, a few more orders may get generated.

Yes - that and they might be willing to buy several spots just to have some in stock

[RETURNISO]

There are four keys that may be dropped off the set to save some bucks. While they are not redundant they may be replaced with other keys in the set:


1. Eliminate the acute and grave accents only key. There are three keys with acute and grave accents. Two of them are the same but one has a pipe. The last one may replace the former and the key with accents only may be eliminated.


2. Eliminate the greater than, less than symbols key. There are three keys with greater than, less than symbols where the one with symbols only may be eliminated, because this may be easily replaced with any of the two remaining keys, with pipe or backslash.


3. Eliminate the question mark and plus sign key. Again, there are two keys that are very similar. The key with the backslash may replace that with only question mark and plus sign.


4. Eliminate the number 2 and double quotes key. One more time there are three similar keys where any of the remaining similar keys may replace the one that has these two symbols only.


This may save around five dollars at 150 sets GMK princing.

I am double checking everything to make sure that no "stupid" double keys will be there.

There are four keys that may be dropped off the set to save some bucks. While they are not redundant they may be replaced with other keys in the set:

...

4. Eliminate the number 2 and double quotes key. One more time there are three similar keys where any of the remaining similar keys may replace the one that has these two symbols only.


This may save around five dollars at 150 sets GMK pricing.

This key is used in ISO UK so I'm particularly keen on it staying in, would rather not have tertiary legends that make no sense for my layout.
Additionally, if this is over $5 I'm really not sure it's worth removing keys because some are "similar".

Dont worry, the key is important and will stay in the kit. 

There are four keys that may be dropped off the set to save some bucks. While they are not redundant they may be replaced with other keys in the set:

...

4. Eliminate the number 2 and double quotes key. One more time there are three similar keys where any of the remaining similar keys may replace the one that has these two symbols only.


This may save around five dollars at 150 sets GMK pricing.

This key is used in ISO UK so I'm particularly keen on it staying in, would rather not have tertiary legends that make no sense for my layout.
Additionally, if this is over $5 I'm really not sure it's worth removing keys because some are "similar".

Previous offerings of similar international kits got very low demand. You want this being done even if it does not match what you need exactly than not been done at all. Personally, I would pay for the set as it is even when I may use half the keys, but most people do not buy it at all. Even in sets with huge demand like carbon, people did not buy the Norde kit, as a guy who is trying to sell the eight extra sets he bought just for the purpose to assure that MoQ was reached. Just my two cents. PD if thertiary legends are not included I do not need the set.

Hey are they still available?? I need a kit!

As long as the add-on kit is available stand alone and optinally with a full set, a few more orders may get generated.

You've been saying it's good for a while,... What's next? Instead of all this anticipation, just get to the punchline!

Punchline is sooooon to be revealed...

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This whole being a hypeman is somewhat off-putting and tactless.

Sorry if it feels like that. It's not supposed to! I am currently waiting on renders and quote + making sure the keys are correct.

I am doing this complete non profit. And time cought up on me. I do think it was ok to have the IC hanging for a couple of weeks to get some more details and surveys in.

Let me know if I can help answering any other questions for now

It's good to take your time to ensure things turn out right. I surely hope they do, I can help by having friends and others support the project.

I look forward to the next updates. Thanks for your work and diligence

Your are welcome, will do my best!

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

Thanks for stopping by! please contact mykeyboard.eu as they will the vender for this group buy! I do hope we can come together and support each other here in the EU.

Hey all!

Sorry, we just saw this. Our GMK WoB kit is coming shortly now and we totally missed this. We would be interested in somehow making this kit happen since UK and NOR would be a great addition! ANSI is already also planned now so we hope to get that in shortly after the ISO-DE one.

Maybe we could cut up some deal where we can mix this add on kit with our bases so people do not have to buy unnecessary caps?

Woo!

As long as the add-on kit is available stand alone and optinally with a full set, a few more orders may get generated.

Yes - that and they might be willing to buy several spots just to have some in stock

That would be so ideal! 

[ideus]

There are some Carbon's international kits by Slom still available.

[RETURNISO]

There are some Carbon's international kits by Slom still available.

Awesome, will reach out to him 

[RETURNISO]

Would be interested even if located out here in the US

I am actually gonna have a US proxy  

[DJSwayde]

Would be interested even if located out here in the US

I am actually gonna have a US proxy

I like where this is going.

[ideus]

You should open threads at DT and MK, if you do not have them yet.

[RETURNISO]

You should open threads at DT and MK, if you do not have them yet.

Coming up today! I rubbed out and rolled over yesterday night..  The bbcode wasn't the same 

[eskimojo]

Definitely in for BoW if it happens - joined Minimal and hoping to use this with. 

[RETURNISO]

Definitely in for BoW if it happens - joined Minimal and hoping to use this with. 

COOL I am joining minimal too ofc hehehe, Almost ready with the next update

[depletedvespene]

great! also interested in the ISO-PT (Portuguese)

here's what is needed:

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For not that much of an extra effort, the Spanish (Latin America) layout could be added to this as well.

I think that, just as there's the NORDEUK set, ESLAPTIT or even FRESLAPTIT could be a thing.

[KeyCap75]

Hopefully BoW makes it to GB...just bought a Minimal kit!
Stoked! 

[D0oms_Ninth_Cat]

Just hopped onto the Minimal train.
Hope BoW is happening!

[b4d_tR1p]

pls do it, my old friends needs italian pack for gmk set


please please please 

[RETURNISO]

Hopefully BoW makes it to GB...just bought a Minimal kit!
Stoked! 

BoW will be in the GB! its just timing that its hard with minimal ending soon. I am hoping we can push the minimal gb deadline with mykeyboard.eu

great! also interested in the ISO-PT (Portuguese)

here's what is needed:

Show Image

For not that much of an extra effort, the Spanish (Latin America) layout could be added to this as well.

I think that, just as there's the NORDEUK set, ESLAPTIT or even FRESLAPTIT could be a thing.

I am reworking the kit, i got most request for Portuguese. planning to include it.

pls do it, my old friends needs italian pack for gmk set

please please please  :thumb:

I have done extended work with most of the languages, so it will be easier for other people to make a GB.

Its gonna be tough to include all 3 IT, PT, SP in NORDEUK, as its almost the same amount of keys combined. I am almost done with the new KLE.   

Just hopped onto the Minimal train.
Hope BoW is happening!

I will be in the GB ;)

[DJSwayde]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

[RETURNISO]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

[DJSwayde]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

Spanish.

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[RETURNISO]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

Spanish.

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[Prelim]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

Spanish.

Although there are some reasons why Portuguese is here favored over the Spanish (higher users demand and fewer caps needed), there is another major difference that should be pointed out... and that's the fact Cherry didn't ever produce Portuguese WoB caps, so there's no way to get those from Cherry boards. As for WoB Spanish caps, you can get them from G80-11908HRMES and other models:

[RETURNISO]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

Spanish.

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  )

If i add support for Spanish, then it would also make sense to add support for Italian, but its rough 15-18 keys more then. I have cut some "double" keys and removed AZERTY as it dont really makes sense with just the alphas. so instead the closet next layout is Portuguese.

Check the Keyboard layout editor ( KLE ) LINK V.3 Extended ( WORK IN PROGRESS / 03.23.19 ) -  as i have been working on a complete overview

[DJSwayde]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

Spanish.

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  )

If i add support for Spanish, then it would also make sense to add support for Italian, but its rough 15-18 keys more then. I have cut some "double" keys and removed AZERTY as it dont really makes sense with just the alphas. so instead the closet next layout is Portuguese.

Check the Keyboard layout editor ( KLE ) LINK V.3 Extended ( WORK IN PROGRESS / 03.23.19 ) -  as i have been working on a complete overview

Oof, if that is the case I am fine without the Spanish tbh. This is going to be a lot of keys already.

[ideus]

What is the estimated pricing at 150?

[RETURNISO]

What is the estimated pricing at 150?

I still haven't got price n moq possiblites back from GMK, only the early render of the kit. Hopefully gonna hear back next week. Gonna send out the updated kit Monday.

[RETURNISO]

The updated kit looks like this:

[ LANG ] [ SUPPORT ] UK, ISL, NO, SE, FL, FO, DK, DE, PT.



Any objections let me know

FOR PT, the only excluded key is the "4 $ §" please use the "4 $" from a base kit



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Updated 1 error

[dorf]

Looking good!

[eskimojo]

Thought it was missing R4 |\, but on further research it looks like both WoB and Minimal come with those, so it looks good to me. 

[RETURNISO]

Looking good!

Thought it was missing R4 |\, but on further research it looks like both WoB and Minimal come with those, so it looks good to me. 

COOL.

Plan is to kick this off next week! 

[depletedvespene]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

The unified Iberoamerican set, just to frack with everyone. 

[RETURNISO]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

The unified Iberoamerican set, just to frack with everyone. 

Haha, that gives me nightmares  )

[depletedvespene]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

The unified Iberoamerican set, just to frack with everyone. 

Haha, that gives me nightmares  )

Once it's made into the new multinational standard, millions of those sets shall be produced. MOQs for the weirdest colourways you might think of will be met with ease. Spaniards and Portuguese will love us. Catalans will love us. Paraguayans will love us even more. Everyone in Iberoamerica will love us. Except, of course, for those who might have kept a healty stock of pre-unification cheap-ass keyboards. But you can't please everyone, I guess. 

[RETURNISO]

Wanting Spanish and Portuguese.

  And if you could choose one fav?

The unified Iberoamerican set, just to frack with everyone. 

Haha, that gives me nightmares  )

Once it's made into the new multinational standard, millions of those sets shall be produced. MOQs for the weirdest colourways you might think of will be met with ease. Spaniards and Portuguese will love us. Catalans will love us. Paraguayans will love us even more. Everyone in Iberoamerica will love us. Except, of course, for those who might have kept a healty stock of pre-unification cheap-ass keyboards. But you can't please everyone, I guess. 

Well you CAN please everyone, just not in one go , if you run Iberoamerica, I will pick up a set 

[depletedvespene]

Once it's made into the new multinational standard, millions of those sets shall be produced. MOQs for the weirdest colourways you might think of will be met with ease. Spaniards and Portuguese will love us. Catalans will love us. Paraguayans will love us even more. Everyone in Iberoamerica will love us. Except, of course, for those who might have kept a healty stock of pre-unification cheap-ass keyboards. But you can't please everyone, I guess. 

Well you CAN please everyone, just not in one go , if you run Iberoamerica, I will pick up a set 

Wait until I post about it on DT... we should see whether the reception to the little thing I'm preparing is warm or what. 

[tronix_41]

im out, missing some sublegends. glwgb!

[RETURNISO]

im out, missing some sublegends. glwgb!

Which ones? 

[tronix_41]

im out, missing some sublegends. glwgb!

Which ones? 

e €

<> |

[RETURNISO]

im out, missing some sublegends. glwgb!

Which ones? 

e €

<> |

I can include them, i was saving a few keys, and most people do not prefer the € on E..
and i personally think it doesn't matter with the \ | on "><"

but i dont want people to drop the kit just for those "keys"



Yay or nay to add the 4 keys back to the set? let me know!

then "final final" would look like this:

[Prelim]

Also think "E €" is important, not so sure about the rest!

[ideus]

im out, missing some sublegends. glwgb!

Which ones? 

e €

<> |

+1 for <>|

[RETURNISO]

Also think "E €" is important, not so sure about the rest!

im out, missing some sublegends. glwgb!

Which ones? 

e €

<> |

+1 for <>|

Updated!

[ideus]

Cool. Still in. So far so good.

[eskimojo]

Tempted to pick up another set of Minimal for mixing, which would mean another BOW kit of these