[IC] GMK Klaxon

[tjcaustin]

It's time for me to start planning the return of the legend.  Klaxon with GMK plastics. But I'm worried about two things, one of which being will there be 250 people interested in white on red or red on white?  I'll be running a unified set similar to red alert v2 where it has white on red mods and red on white alphas in a similar key set as to what succeeded with GMK dolch (with the addition of 1 more 2.25x shift). Depending on opinion, I might add a white on red alpha add on.

These colors:


This layout:


Add-on, these alphas:


More picture:

[Sifo]

not interested

ok fine i'm in

[tjcaustin]

**** yes, only posted once.

[epzy]

I want dis.

[LechnerDE]

I don't understand the question.

OF COURSE I AM IN!!!!!


One request though:

Please include the "`~" and "\|" keys in both colors so people can chose between classic and symmetrical look.

Thanks!

[Puddsy]

if the legends are right i might pick up a set

[tjcaustin]

if the legends are right i might pick up a set

They will be cherry standard legends.  I put my klaxon set on my fc today and was unhappy with the feel and wyse font.  It's time klaxon is part of the current generation of cap stuffs.

[Puddsy]

Ivan says his GBs are cherry standard legends then puts the handbag capslock and blank shifts on an ANSI set

i meant the mod legends, not the alphas, i figured they'd be correct

[Signature]

I liked the original font :/

[tjcaustin]

Ivan says his GBs are cherry standard legends then puts the handbag capslock and blank shifts on an ANSI set

i meant the mod legends, not the alphas, i figured they'd be correct

I get what you're saying now.  Yeah, dunno.  I like both symbol mods and alpha mods, so I'll let the group decide that.

[nuclearsandwich]

yip yip yip yip yip

[jdcarpe]

Damn you. I'd be in.

Symbol mods, please.

[IvanIvanovich]

You know it's good!


I have no doubt many people would be eager to jump on a much cheaper keycaps only alternative to buying that special edition 3000.

[yicaoyimu]

I prefer red on white mod personally.

[pichu23]

uh... in of course!
btw can we get the wins logo. don't want a blank keycap
doesnt matter if its old school/wins 8.

[bianco]

I don't understand the question.

OF COURSE I AM IN!!!!!


One request though:

Please include the "`~" and "\|" keys in both colors so people can chose between classic and symmetrical look.

Thanks!

i'm in as well!
and +1 on the symmetrical

[CPTBadAss]

Damn interested, my liege.

[HoffmanMyster]

I'M TOTALLY IN FOR THIS

[HipsterPunks]

i have the red klaxon SP mods, goes perfect with the GMK Cyrillic. Would love a set just for the logo'd mods as well 

[tjcaustin]

Monday, I'll email gmk for a quote with win logos for the super keys.  The reason I'm just locking down to the red alert v2 colorway is because it's by far the most popular and I feel the easiest to get 250 for.  That being said, instead of doing just the inverse alphas, I could throw up a full inverse set as an option with the understanding that I won't let it stagnate if it doesn't match numbers.  Thinking more, I'll just throw both colorways up and add extra mod packs for those than want ANSI word mods instead of symbols.  Won't hurt to see how popular they are, too.

So to tl;dr:
1. WoR mods/RoW alphas with symbol mods, both color ~ and \| keys and win super
2. RoW mods/WoR alphas with symbol mods, both color ~ and \| keys and win super
3. WoR ANSI mods (with words)
4. RoW ANSI mods (with words)

[yicaoyimu]

For the Dolch group buy in Korea, they managed to get WoB full set produced together with Dolch, even though WoB set does not meet MOQ. I wonder if something similar can be worked out for this group buy so that we could have inverse alpha or mod without worrying about MOQ.

[jorgenslee]

How about \| in Num row? Is that possible for HHKB layout?

[Elocutive]

In for 2 red on white sets

[bazemk1979]

Can I suggest for 4 blank windowed caps perhaps 2 in red and 2 in white for R1 x1 size to be added to the set?, there are a lot of full keyboards that don't have the LED above the number pad and instead there are 4 additional keys.

I gave the same idea to Ivan for his next GB to include them to the basic set, what ya guys think?

[Flamingchook]

Ohhh I'm definitely in!

I'm liking the idea of the inverse set too. I'll definitely get both.

Also my vote goes to text mods. I'm not a big fan of the symbols. Especially the caps lock handbag.

[lionblinds]

 interested

[Easonic]

not  interested

[bueller]

In like you wouldn't believe. It's taken way too long for this, thanks TJ!

[okwchin]

Interested.

Ideal set - RoW Alphas, WoR Icon Mods, matching colour \| key (to mods), logo for super key.

With option to add RoW mods.


Although I'm probably just as interested to pick up someones WYSE klaxon as I don't mind the WYSE at all.

[GSimon]

I'd be down, Canada Day with GMK

[bueller]

Please people, make this happen. And remember that sometimes you can't always get what you want, GMK sets always need to drop extra keys to keep the price down.

Here is a teaser of what the alphas will look like if we can work together and get this to MOQ.



I would like to propose keeping the number of individual kits to a minimum as well, add ons like WASD or enter keys are cool but you really need to do the full set as the main pack otherwise the fragmentation of sets hurts your ability to meet MOQ.

[whentheclouds]

all white set looks nice in those few photos, but i feel they would look very bland when you actually put them on a keyboard

[nubbinator]

It looks interesting and I may be in just because GMK (even though klaxon isn't my bag),  I just wish we had more novel GMK buys instead of rehashes.

[Elrick]

TJ all you have to mention are those three famous letters "GMK" and I'm in  .

Don't really care what the colours look like as long as it's coming out of authentic German Cherry Molds.  Heaven on earth when it comes to getting REAL Cherry keys.

[Rotaku]

intrested

[Karura]

Interesting set, so what differs this from Red Alert?

For the Dolch group buy in Korea, they managed to get WoB full set produced together with Dolch, even though WoB set does not meet MOQ. I wonder if something similar can be worked out for this group buy so that we could have inverse alpha or mod without worrying about MOQ.

Do you have more information about that? Like what sort of numbers did they have for the WoB?

[whentheclouds]

GMK sets everywhere  going to enjoy the upcoming influx of GMK sets. stark contrast to when i joined, there were only 3 sets produced then.

Interesting set, so what differs this from Red Alert?

same color scheme, but Cherry legends instead of Wyse, Cherry profile instead of DCS (though the differences are minimal), and thick GMK ABS plastic vs thin SP plastic

Don't really care what the colours look like as long as it's coming out of authentic German Cherry Molds

i'm pretty sure i recall you being less than enthusiastic with the manly unicorn IC

[Karura]

I want to say that I'm only in if this uses icon legends, since I think they're a lot cleaner

I would consider letters, but icons are a lot cooler imo. Think Raindrop (all icons too)

[Flamingchook]

i'm pretty sure i recall you being less than enthusiastic with the manly unicorn IC

Funny I was just thinking that.

[whentheclouds]

I want to say that I'm only in if this uses icon legends, since I think they're a lot cleaner

I would consider letters, but icons are a lot cooler imo. Think Raindrop (all icons too)

i like the old school text mods myself, but ultimately it isn't a big deal. a few people may pull out if they don't get their preferred mods, but i think the majority care more about the color scheme than anything else

[Karura]

I want to say that I'm only in if this uses icon legends, since I think they're a lot cleaner

I would consider letters, but icons are a lot cooler imo. Think Raindrop (all icons too)

i like the old school text mods myself, but ultimately it isn't a big deal. a few people may pull out if they don't get their preferred mods, but i think the majority care more about the color scheme than anything else

Definitely, just stating my preference 

I feel the caps would be appealing in the end, simply due to the colour scheme, no doubt. Might even pick up a set.

I just can't get enough of icon modifiers, it's just so clean and adds a lot to the colour

[bueller]

I think we should just do a poll for things like W7 vs W8 logos and text vs icon mods and then just go with the majority. I honestly couldn't care less so long as we get this set made.

[JaccoW]

Interested. And I agree on the winkeys. Blank mods look boring.

[LechnerDE]

Just for the record:


I prefer ANSI text mods. IF you decide to go for icon only please don't use the lock icon, but a down arrow like in this pic:

[lightsout714]

Just for the record:


I prefer ANSI text mods. IF you decide to go for icon only please don't use the lock icon, but a down arrow like in this pic:

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Handbag caps lock ftw!

[blighty]

Text on mods please.  I don't use my white on purple mods at all because I can't stand to look at the ANSI enter arrow.   )

[lightsout714]

Text on mods please.  I don't use my white on purple mods at all because I can't stand to look at the ANSI enter arrow.   )

Haha I do kind of agree with this. I prefer all standard. I kind of like both but I do think that enter with no text is pretty ugly.

[whentheclouds]

haha yeah, symbol enter is definitely the worst of the bunch due to the way the icon spreads over the key

[JaccoW]

I prefer the symbol + text mods as well. Just plain text is difficult to see sometimes.

[whentheclouds]

isn't text + symbols the de facto standard anyway? from what i know text-only mods are just an SP thing

[Puddsy]

people who put ISO mods on ANSI sets are not my friends

[IvanIvanovich]

GMK has all three type. Symbols, text only and symbols with text. Symbols with text are most common on English language sets but can be found on others as well sometimes. Symbols only are most common on all other languages as I think they wanted to avoid all the localization with text. Text only can be found on some of the earliest models, terminal models, typewriters and stuff.
I like them all OK really, having variety is always best.

[jameslr]

Looks nice. I think if you put out an IC for baby **** yellow caps from GMK you would meet moq.

[GSimon]

GMK has all three type. Symbols, text only and symbols with text.

I'd prefer: Symbols with text as first pick, Symbols only 2nd, Text only last.

[Puddsy]

GMK has all three type. Symbols, text only and symbols with text.

I'd prefer: Symbols with text as first pick, Symbols only 2nd, Text only last.

wham bam

this

[LechnerDE]

GMK has all three type. Symbols, text only and symbols with text.

I'd prefer: Symbols with text as first pick, Symbols only 2nd, Text only last.

+1

[Flamingchook]

Symbols with text I can get behind.

[bianco]

i prefer the icons only for modifiers, 2nd icons with text and wouldn't really want text only.

[TLSC.wipeOut]

I'm interested in this and all things GMK =D

[3Love]

Red should be good. But we need creative idea.

[tjcaustin]

It sounds like the majority so far are happy with the 60th anniversary layout with WoR mods and whatever extra keys ivan's dolch kit had.  I'll email GMK for pricing on both red alert and it's inversion (RoW mods and WoR alphas) monday.  I'll have them price including both color ~ and \| keys as well.  I think I'll just run the two options instead of trying to muddle with offering separate mod packs.

[bueller]

It sounds like the majority so far are happy with the 60th anniversary layout with WoR mods and whatever extra keys ivan's dolch kit had.  I'll email GMK for pricing on both red alert and it's inversion (RoW mods and WoR alphas) monday.  I'll have them price including both color ~ and \| keys as well.  I think I'll just run the two options instead of trying to muddle with offering separate mod packs.

I would be cautious about offering two full sets, fragmenting the buyers like that will be a killer for MOQ.

[apathy3cs]

Interested for RoW with WoR mods with text+sym if possible.  I most likely will jump in no matter though.  Are we talking DCS or DSA? (for everyone's reference as I've not seen it called out yet)

[whentheclouds]

all GMK sets are in Cherry profile, which is very similar to DCS

[bueller]

all GMK sets are in Cherry profile, which is vastly superior to DCS

Fixed that for you

[whentheclouds]

Cherry masterrace 

[WinterIsle]

Interested with all white base with red fonts/legends.
Maybe red on light grey will be nice too.

[infiniti]

I'm definitely interested!

[IvanIvanovich]

Might be worth considering offering red/white and white/red as separate alphanumerics and mods+nav sets. That way if someone wants an all red/white set they can, or if all white/red set they can... or buy one of whatever to mix/match with other existing stuff they might have. It will probably be priced slightly higher that way, but would be better to most buyers than having to buy 2 full sets to get one of those options if they want it.

[Signature]

You mind changing the Control to Ctrl? Makes the set look more appealing imo

[Puddsy]

You mind changing the Control to Ctrl? Makes the set look more appealing imo

NO

ANSI for lyfe

actually i can deal with this but i don't like it

[Signature]

You mind changing the Control to Ctrl? Makes the set look more appealing imo

NO

ANSI for lyfe

actually i can deal with this but i don't like it

Shoo

[Puddsy]

I mean if it's gonna have an ISO kit, the CTRL legends over the CONTROL legends are perfectly fine

[IvanIvanovich]

Technically Ctrl is more consistent. We don't have Alternate just Alt, Esc, Pg Up, Del, etc... just saying.

[tjcaustin]

I was thinking about it last night and ended up checking the numbers from round one after bueller mentioned fragmentation and while I don't think that there would be much of that, I don't think the alternative colors have the same chance to succeed as the WoR mod/RoW alphas set up.  That pairing was close to 200 purchased while everything else sat around 75 - 100 so it feels like that might just end up being a distraction more than anything else.

[IvanIvanovich]

They might be willing to run flipped colors and wave the MOQ on the 2nd run though. Since it's the same layout and same colors just opposite you might be able to get them to do it as long as one version meets the usual MOQ.

[Karura]

They might be willing to run flipped colors and wave the MOQ on the 2nd run though. Since it's the same layout and same colors just opposite you might be able to get them to do it as long as one version meets the usual MOQ.

That is really reassuring to hear! I hope that's also the case for just modifiers

[bueller]

TJ can you put the photo I posted in the OP? Might help to encourage some more people to get on board

[tjweir]

You know it's good!

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I have no doubt many people would be eager to jump on a much cheaper keycaps only alternative to buying that special edition 3000.

I want this in my life!

[skipped]

Will definitely buy this!

Text + Symbol > Symbol > Text and RoW alphas + WoR mods would be awesome

[Karura]

Just curious, any updates on the pricing, and most importantly: Control or Ctrl?

[IPT]

i can get behind symbols with text mods!
and windows key

[KatzenKinder]

I'd definitely be interested in red on white set...

[Orca]

what about black legends on all teh keycaps...

[bueller]

what about black legends on all teh keycaps...

Ewwwwww nooooo!

[pichu23]

what about black legends on all teh keycaps...

no please. hah 

[keyit]

GMK red alert would be pretty cool, RoW alphas and RoGrey mods

[keymaster]

RoW looks incredible. Does GMK do PBT or dyesublimation? Or are they strictly double-shot ABS?

[Puddsy]

RoW looks incredible. Does GMK do PBT or dyesublimation? Or are they strictly double-shot ABS?

'

DS ABS only

because it's the best

[ninjadoc]

What is the status on this?

[JYJelly]

I'm interested

[Rainbow_]

Not enough GMK buys! Seems interesting

[ItsWhatIDo]

Interested. Need some red caps to match red tex case

[viin_viin]

I'm interested. 

[LechnerDE]

Any news on this?

Didn't you mention that GMK send you Mockups?

[goflo]

Is there a ergodox kit possible?

[IvanIvanovich]

GMK does have 1.5 key for each rows, that would be fitting to have proper sculpted set on an EDOX... I offered it once in interest check and got an entire 7 people that wanted to buy it so it's possible but perhaps not feasible if there aren't enough people that want it to get 250MOQ.
I think the main issue was that the only real option for EDOX is blanks, since there is no real standard layout that everyone uses having legends becomes impossible since everyone wants different things.

[Data]

GMK does have 1.5 key for each rows, that would be fitting to have proper sculpted set on an EDOX... I offered it once in interest check and got an entire 7 people that wanted to buy it so it's possible but perhaps not feasible if there aren't enough people that want it to get 250MOQ.
I think the main issue was that the only real option for EDOX is blanks, since there is no real standard layout that everyone uses having legends becomes impossible since everyone wants different things.

Matt3o managed OK with Granite. To my knowledge the Ergodoxian kit was fairly popular.

[Puddsy]

GMK does have 1.5 key for each rows, that would be fitting to have proper sculpted set on an EDOX... I offered it once in interest check and got an entire 7 people that wanted to buy it so it's possible but perhaps not feasible if there aren't enough people that want it to get 250MOQ.
I think the main issue was that the only real option for EDOX is blanks, since there is no real standard layout that everyone uses having legends becomes impossible since everyone wants different things.

Matt3o managed OK with Granite. To my knowledge the Ergodoxian kit was fairly popular.

Yeah, but granite was hugely popular. GMK is notorious for being much more expensive than SP, which might turn some people off of buying an ergodox kit from GMK. Plus, I don't think that there are 250 people who would actually want an ergodox kit for this set anyway. It's not usually the #1 selling part of a set.

It might not hurt to offer it, of course. You never know.

[ApocalypseMaow]

grey on red son!!! I'm down either way!

[minho]

If GMK is in the name, I'm interested

[Data]

GMK does have 1.5 key for each rows, that would be fitting to have proper sculpted set on an EDOX... I offered it once in interest check and got an entire 7 people that wanted to buy it so it's possible but perhaps not feasible if there aren't enough people that want it to get 250MOQ.
I think the main issue was that the only real option for EDOX is blanks, since there is no real standard layout that everyone uses having legends becomes impossible since everyone wants different things.

Matt3o managed OK with Granite. To my knowledge the Ergodoxian kit was fairly popular.

Yeah, but granite was hugely popular. GMK is notorious for being much more expensive than SP, which might turn some people off of buying an ergodox kit from GMK. Plus, I don't think that there are 250 people who would actually want an ergodox kit for this set anyway. It's not usually the #1 selling part of a set.

It might not hurt to offer it, of course. You never know.

You might be surprised. 

Anyway, I was only responding to Ivan's comment about "legended" (is that a word?) Ergodox kits.

[IvanIvanovich]

DSA has the advantage of being all the same profile, there are not sculpted with different row shapes so it's much easier to move the keys around for the desired layout which is what seems to make it popular with users of non standard boards and layouts.
That really isn't possible with sculpted legend keys unless you don't care at all about having random row profile keys scattered all about. Now, GMK does have a uniform profile short spherical key similar to DSA... but the key sizes are extremely limited and don't cover all the sizes needed for standard boards so probably a non starter for anything else besides things like EDox, JD40, etc.

[Data]

If you did an Ergodox kit one would assume you'd do it in your chosen profile's equivalent of row 3/flat. It's typically a mods kit and row profiles don't matter that much.

Just saying. I'm not likely to buy Klaxon so I don't care what you do -- I've got no horse in this race.  It makes no difference to me.

[renne]

interested.

[frostylove]

Definitely I'm in.
RoW Alphas and RoGrey mods please! You know just like the original OTD RA sets

[Hellcatz]

**** YES!!!

[Okonomiyaki#2832]

Does this fits a Filco MJ2? If so I am so gonna snap up 4 sets, Red on White or White on Red
It looks so pretty.

[LechnerDE]

Does this fits a Filco MJ2? If so I am so gonna snap up 4 sets, Red on White or White on Red
It looks so pretty.

Yes, this will perfectly fit a Majestouch 2 

[Okonomiyaki#2832]

This needs more love, when will ordering begins :O

[Elrick]

Yes, this will perfectly fit a Majestouch 2 

GMK ONLY fits quality Keyboards hence time for noobs to drop their current el-cheapo, chinese made junk and join the winning team here on GH.

Better get a GON or any quality, Korean made setup to really highlight the pure perfection of GMK made key-caps.

[whentheclouds]

Filcos are very high quality as far as 'noob' keyboards go. i'd take one over a Ducky/Noppoo/gamer oriented board (Razer CM et al) any day of the week

[Elrick]

Filcos are very high quality as far as 'noob' keyboards go.

Nothing wrong with Filcos although they were once made in Taiwan, a district belonging to the Chinese mainland  .

[ice31000]

I think White on Red would be a more universal choice.

[JaccoW]

I would definitely be interested in the red modifiers at the very least

[DelKey]

A Red on white set would get my wallet open!

Ok- that's not hard to do...

[domoaligato]

yes sir I am totally interested. I have asked ivan a few times to make this happen...

I will buy the Photekq version and this one both. kinda like how I  have both the sherry and ivan dolch sets

edit: add red alert to the thread title and you might get more interest.

[sethk_]

I would be in for it, I like the set, but the price is kind of throwing me off from the one Photek is proxying

[HoffmanMyster]

I would be in for it, I like the set, but the price is kind of throwing me off from the one Photek is proxying

A US-run GMK buy won't have that price tag.  That's an artifact of taxes, shipping, and other fees, which this buy wouldn't be subject to - it would be more in line with GMK Dolch or HyperFuse.

[hwood34]

definitely interested in a set

[sethk_]

I would be in for it, I like the set, but the price is kind of throwing me off from the one Photek is proxying

A US-run GMK buy won't have that price tag.  That's an artifact of taxes, shipping, and other fees, which this buy wouldn't be subject to - it would be more in line with GMK Dolch or HyperFuse.

Oh I know it won't. I also want GMK Olivetti, both sets are amazing. Granted, both of Photek's set come with a Hammer keycap, but I also don't have enough boards. I would probably put RA on DrHubble's board

[HoffmanMyster]

I would be in for it, I like the set, but the price is kind of throwing me off from the one Photek is proxying

A US-run GMK buy won't have that price tag.  That's an artifact of taxes, shipping, and other fees, which this buy wouldn't be subject to - it would be more in line with GMK Dolch or HyperFuse.

Oh I know it won't. I also want GMK Olivetti, both sets are amazing. Granted, both of Photek's set come with a Hammer keycap, but I also don't have enough boards. I would probably put RA on DrHubble's board

Oh I thought you were saying you weren't interested in this set due to the potential cost.  But now I see you meant you are interested in this one due to the cost of the other one.    

[sethk_]

I would be in for it, I like the set, but the price is kind of throwing me off from the one Photek is proxying

A US-run GMK buy won't have that price tag.  That's an artifact of taxes, shipping, and other fees, which this buy wouldn't be subject to - it would be more in line with GMK Dolch or HyperFuse.

Oh I know it won't. I also want GMK Olivetti, both sets are amazing. Granted, both of Photek's set come with a Hammer keycap, but I also don't have enough boards. I would probably put RA on DrHubble's board

Oh I thought you were saying you weren't interested in this set due to the potential cost.  But now I see you meant you are interested in this one due to the cost of the other one.   

Yeah, I am up for a set as long as it would be under 130 or around that area

[pr1me]

interested in white on red legend, no text on mod 

[ATXTider]

Interested.  -1000000000000000 for symbol mods tho.  Caps Lock Handbag is the absolute worst.

[Weltschmerz]

I would definitely be interesed

[choc]

I prefer orange on white or orange on black just like the Cherry 60 anniversary edition---G80-3060.

[domoaligato]

I prefer orange on white or orange on black just like the Cherry 60 anniversary edition---G80-3060.

maybe you should open a new IC thread for that?

[choc]

I prefer orange on white or orange on black just like the Cherry 60 anniversary edition---G80-3060.

maybe you should open a new IC thread for that?

(-¡-;) haven't tried it before.

orange on white is a bit similar to this IC's idea.

[pr1me]

This beauty deserve a bump ^_^ (almost a necro)
Hopefully it will bring more interest.

Don't let the dream die!

[lunr]

definitely interested with the only symbol versions

[ninjadoc]

I'm in for a set

[ghostjuggernaut]

Didn't this die, awhile ago?  And isn't this basically Red Alert, or am I missing something?

[HoffmanMyster]

Didn't this die, awhile ago?  And isn't this basically Red Alert, or am I missing something?

Klaxon is tj's spin on Red Alert.  The SP groupbuy had slight differences in legend/key choices from the Red Alert sets (as well as the addition of the RoG colorway), which would (presumably) be carried over to GMK here. 

But yeah, this hasn't gone anywhere in awhile. 

[ghostjuggernaut]

Didn't this die, awhile ago?  And isn't this basically Red Alert, or am I missing something?

Klaxon is tj's spin on Red Alert.  The SP groupbuy had slight differences in legend/key choices from the Red Alert sets (as well as the addition of the RoG colorway), which would (presumably) be carried over to GMK here. 

But yeah, this hasn't gone anywhere in awhile. 

Thanks for the clarification Hoff.

[trenzafeeds]

Would love to see the dream revived!

[mbrown559]

I would also love this set to get revived.