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About
1.65mm thick PBT keycaps manufactured by Keyreative
Overall Dye sublimation
Live until February 28th
Shipping time is estimated for Sept. 2020
IC thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97181.0)
Vendors
Novelkeys US:
- Keyset (https://novelkeys.xyz/products/kam-wraith-gb)
- Deskmat (https://novelkeys.xyz/products/wraith-deskpad-gb)
Candykeys EU:
- Keyset + Deskmat (https://candykeys.com/group-buys/kam-wraith)
Zfrontier Asia:
- Keyset + Deskmat (https://www.zfrontier.com/m/5734)
Zfrontier International:
- Keyset + Deskmat (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kam-wraith)
Dailyclack Oceania:
- Keyset + Deskmat (https://dailyclack.com/products/kam-wraith)
Pricing
| Kit | Novelkeys | Candykeys | Zfrontier | Zfrontier CN | Dailyclack |
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| base | $95.00 | 93.00€ | $95.00 | ¥578.00 | $152.00 |
| calc | $16.00 | 20.00€ | $17.00 | ¥100.00 | $26.00 |
| ergo | $65.00 | 58.00€ | $65.00 | ¥395.00 | $104.00 |
| extension | $30.00 | 34.00€ | $30.00 | ¥185.00 | $48.00 |
| intl | $35.00 | 38.00€ | $35.00 | ¥216.00 | $56.00 |
| nav | $15.00 | 19.00€ | $12.00 | ¥72.00 | $24.00 |
| space | $22.00 | 23.00€ | $23.00 | ¥135.00 | $35.00 |
Kits
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Samples
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Renders
by Oblotzky
Grid 600
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Rama M65-A
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HBCP
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Campine
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Rama M60-A
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Keycult No.2 Rev 1
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Deskmat
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Numbers
Updated on March 4th
| base-kit | 705 |
| calc-kit | 181 |
| ergo-kit | 184 |
| extension-kit | 161 |
| intl-kit | 70 |
| nav-kit | 92 |
| space-kit | 312 |
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Approved, GL w GB!
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Yes !! Thanks for this, biip.
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RIP wallet
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RIP wallet
RIIP? :p
also, woohoo!
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I don't think there is a set of yours that I haven't bought on day 0. Can't wait for this one
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I don't think there is a set of yours that I haven't bought on day 0. Can't wait for this one
What devotion! Thanks, my fellow!
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Awesome to see this come to life, fingers crossed I can get in before the GB ends!
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Too late but a 1.75 Up on the Extension kit would've made sense for the 60% arrowed usages
Regardless, it's a great set, and since it's too chaotic (in a good way), accuracy doesn't matter anyway
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It's also a bit of a gut punch that one must purchase both the extension and the spacebar kit for the signature look
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This set is brilliant. In for one of each kit + a few extra base ones.
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Put in my order, thanks. Now for the inevitable months long wait.
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There isn't a way to get an extra B for alice type layout, right?
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There isn't a way to get an extra B for alice type layout, right?
buy 2 base or ergo kits 🙃
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Really nice start!
| base-kit | 153 |
| calc-kit | 46 |
| ergo-kit | 51 |
| extension-kit | 44 |
| intl-kit | 19 |
| nav-kit | 25 |
| space-kit | 52 |
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Hello, i’m new to this, so my question is this. Will this fit a Varmilo keyboard?
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Hello, i’m new to this, so my question is this. Will this fit a Varmilo keyboard?
hey, yes the base kit covers that layout :thumb:
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Ty
You just got orderd! ;)
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I see there is a lot of compatibility in the base kit (looks like even 40s), what keyboards/layouts would the extension be used to fill? Trying to figure out whether I should drop cash on that or skip and maybe squeeze for the ergo kit.
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Isn’t the Symbol Shift key you have labeled as 2.00u in the Base kit meant to be 1.75u?
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Isn’t the Symbol Shift key you have labeled as 2.00u in the Base kit meant to be 1.75u?
fixed!
thanks :thumb:
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Really nice start!
| base-kit | 153 |
| calc-kit | 46 |
| ergo-kit | 51 |
| extension-kit | 44 |
| intl-kit | 19 |
| nav-kit | 25 |
| space-kit | 52 |
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I wasn't even that hyped for this dvorcol chart and it was my mistake because this things lit
small brain: design kits to use as keys
mid brain: design kits to use as memes
big brain: design kits to see dvorcol's graphs
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I wasn't even that hyped for this dvorcol chart and it was my mistake because this things lit
small brain: design kits to use as keys
mid brain: design kits to use as memes
big brain: design kits to see dvorcol's graphs
Thank you! :) I really enjoy making these, I'm glad you like them. Or, at least, this one.
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They are always awesome, but you outdid yourself with this one.
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Was there ever a MOQ discussed?
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Maybe I'm dumb, but what is the extension kit for? Is it a novelty kit or a layout compat kit? I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what it is with the custom legends.
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Was there ever a MOQ discussed?
My understanding is KAT/KAM has one single MOQ for the entire GB. It is the total keycap units* sold, there are no individual kit MOQs. I'm guessing Wraith has a 54,000u MOQ, but there are at least three possible levels so it could be different.
*for example, a 1U keycap is 1, an ISO enter is 2.75 (1.5+1.25), etc.
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Quick color check: is the base plastic going to be blue-tinted gray? How noticeable is the blue element with lower indoor lighting? The renders show a bluish gray, but photographs of the sample caps are more toward neutral dark gray (I know it's difficult to get tints correctly in photos). The main legends are a pale pink?
Also, is the matte but smooth texture of these caps going to be basically the same as for KAT caps?
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Maybe I'm dumb, but what is the extension kit for? Is it a novelty kit or a layout compat kit? I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what it is with the custom legends.
Just an addon pack, basically.
Quick color check: is the base plastic going to be blue-tinted gray? How noticeable is the blue element with lower indoor lighting? The renders show a bluish gray, but photographs of the sample caps are more toward neutral dark gray (I know it's difficult to get tints correctly in photos). The main legends are a pale pink?
Also, is the matte but smooth texture of these caps going to be basically the same as for KAT caps?
The colors of the photo are the most accurate.
Yes the surface will be smooth af :thumb:
Was there ever a MOQ discussed?
My understanding is KAT/KAM has one single MOQ for the entire GB. It is the total keycap units* sold, there are no individual kit MOQs. I'm guessing Wraith has a 54,000u MOQ, but there are at least three possible levels so it could be different.
*for example, a 1U keycap is 1, an ISO enter is 2.75 (1.5+1.25), etc.
Correct!
Numbers without extras
Updated on Jan. 29th
| base-kit | 181 |
| calc-kit | 58 |
| ergo-kit | 54 |
| extension-kit | 56 |
| intl-kit | 20 |
| nav-kit | 30 |
| space-kit | 68 |
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Quick color check: is the base plastic going to be blue-tinted gray? How noticeable is the blue element with lower indoor lighting? The renders show a bluish gray, but photographs of the sample caps are more toward neutral dark gray (I know it's difficult to get tints correctly in photos). The main legends are a pale pink?
The colors of the photo are the most accurate.
That helps, thanks. So but to confirm, is there a slight pink-cream tint to the main legends? Or is that a play of light to give that impression? (I like it for the unusual color combinations, so I'm hoping the answer is yes).
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Quick color check: is the base plastic going to be blue-tinted gray? How noticeable is the blue element with lower indoor lighting? The renders show a bluish gray, but photographs of the sample caps are more toward neutral dark gray (I know it's difficult to get tints correctly in photos). The main legends are a pale pink?
The colors of the photo are the most accurate.
That helps, thanks. So but to confirm, is there a slight pink-cream tint to the main legends? Or is that a play of light to give that impression? (I like it for the unusual color combinations, so I'm hoping the answer is yes).
If you're talking about the white, it's supposed to be a pure white :D
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Quick color check: is the base plastic going to be blue-tinted gray? How noticeable is the blue element with lower indoor lighting? The renders show a bluish gray, but photographs of the sample caps are more toward neutral dark gray (I know it's difficult to get tints correctly in photos). The main legends are a pale pink?
The colors of the photo are the most accurate.
That helps, thanks. So but to confirm, is there a slight pink-cream tint to the main legends? Or is that a play of light to give that impression? (I like it for the unusual color combinations, so I'm hoping the answer is yes).
If you're talking about the white, it's supposed to be a pure white :D
That's why I asked, since there are no color values listed that I could find, and the legends look off-white on those photographs. Appreciate the quick replies :thumb: :-*
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Quick color check: is the base plastic going to be blue-tinted gray? How noticeable is the blue element with lower indoor lighting? The renders show a bluish gray, but photographs of the sample caps are more toward neutral dark gray (I know it's difficult to get tints correctly in photos). The main legends are a pale pink?
The colors of the photo are the most accurate.
That helps, thanks. So but to confirm, is there a slight pink-cream tint to the main legends? Or is that a play of light to give that impression? (I like it for the unusual color combinations, so I'm hoping the answer is yes).
If you're talking about the white, it's supposed to be a pure white :D
That's why I asked, since there are no color values listed that I could find, and the legends look off-white on those photographs. Appreciate the quick replies :thumb: :-*
yeah, I tend to get rid of colors in the ICs when I already have the samples.
But since you're talking about that:
- Grey 5415 C / 5405 C
- Red Warm Red C / 1788 C
- Green 374 C
- Blue 2171 C / 2191 C
- Cyan 2905 C
- Magenta 529 C
- Yellow 101 C
We're working on contrast with the manufacturer atm to find the perfect balance :thumb:
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Numbers without extras
Updated on Jan. 29th
| base-kit | 181 |
| calc-kit | 58 |
| ergo-kit | 54 |
| extension-kit | 56 |
| intl-kit | 20 |
| nav-kit | 30 |
| space-kit | 68 |
Only the second day and already 80% of the way toward MOQ!
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Updated on Jan. 29th
| base-kit | 181 |
| calc-kit | 58 |
| ergo-kit | 54 |
| extension-kit | 56 |
| intl-kit | 20 |
| nav-kit | 30 |
| space-kit | 68 |
Only the second day and already 80% of the way toward MOQ!
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These numbers don't include orders from Zfrontier website because of CNY btw.
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Numbers without Zfrontier numbers and without extras
Updated on Jan. 31st
| base-kit | 205 |
| calc-kit | 64 |
| ergo-kit | 64 |
| extension-kit | 67 |
| intl-kit | 32 |
| nav-kit | 37 |
| space-kit | 80 |
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I'm in for Base + Nav ;D
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Just joined for 2 ergo kits + extension + intl + nav + space. Thanks again Biip for such an amazing keyset !
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biip doing pioneer work here - again - really awesome.
What I find best is compatibility: thanks to the uniform profile, it's possible to have Colevrak the easy way (just mind the homing keys) :thumb:
Also, with this I can finally upgrade the keycaps of my first mech (with exception of the dreaded 6.5u spacebar :rolleyes:), which has a quite weird setup: 2.25u left Control, 6.5 spacebar, 1u and 2u Shift ... it is going to look great with this, very retro.
Thank you for your diligent work!
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biip doing pioneer work here - again - really awesome.
What I find best is compatibility: thanks to the uniform profile, it's possible to have Colevrak the easy way (just mind the homing keys) :thumb:
Also, with this I can finally upgrade the keycaps of my first mech (with exception of the dreaded 6.5u spacebar :rolleyes:), which has a quite weird setup: 2.25u left Control, 6.5 spacebar, 1u and 2u Shift ... it is going to look great with this, very retro.
Thank you for your diligent work!
edit: goofed
Thanks for your kind regard! I appreciate it a lot. I'm not there to break records, I'm definitely happier to see people's issues getting solved :thumb:
Numbers without Zfrontier numbers and without extras
Updated on Feb. 3rd
| base-kit | 267 |
| calc-kit | 88 |
| ergo-kit | 91 |
| extension-kit | 88 |
| intl-kit | 35 |
| nav-kit | 48 |
| space-kit | 125 |
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Numbers without Zfrontier numbers and without extras
Updated on Feb. 3rd
| base-kit | 267 |
| calc-kit | 88 |
| ergo-kit | 91 |
| extension-kit | 88 |
| intl-kit | 35 |
| nav-kit | 48 |
| space-kit | 125 |
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one question, the samples look a bit pinky is that some kind of filter or that is how the kits will look?
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one question, the samples look a bit pinky is that some kind of filter or that is how the kits will look?
That's due to lighting. Legends are white :thumb:
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Updated with 11 Feb numbers.
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Will there be samples with the final colors & texture sometime before the expected ship date?
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Will there be samples with the final colors & texture sometime before the expected ship date?
aren't samples in the first post good enough already? legends and textures are shown well. :rolleyes:
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aren't samples in the first post good enough already? legends and textures are shown well. :rolleyes:
Those samples are not the final color or texture, as biip has mentioned (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97181.msg2844138#msg2844138).
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So...
I was lucky enough to receive my KAM Starry Night set yesterday. I REALLY wanted to test out this profile before buying another KAM set and I gotta say, I'm not disappointed at all. I love this glossy look, and they feel great. My fingers do not slide off these at all (this was my concern with the shiny coat). They're thicker and taller than DSA - DSA is really too small and feels a bit thin and cheap for me. I was worried that the similar uniform profile might bother me but it doesn't at all.
Now I'm REALLY excited about this set and (I believe?) these will be more of a matte finish! Will be fun to compare. In any case I LIKE the profile.
ALL IN! :thumb:
BiiP, please take about 6 months off after Bushido. My wallet has had it!
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Cracked and ordered the base, calc and spacebar kits. Now to design a Speccy inspired keyboard and numpad kit for them.
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Will NovelKeys have extra kits for sale when this is released?
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Will NovelKeys have extra kits for sale when this is released?
yep :thumb:
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Will NovelKeys have extra kits for sale when this is released?
yep :thumb:
what about candykeys, any chance of them having extras? cannot quite afford it this month.
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Damn, can't believe I missed this!
If anyone wants to sell their spot please contact me!
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I'm mad I missed the deskmat! Such a great simple design that just has that perfect minimal pride feeling to it. Let me know if you have a spot you don't want anymore :)
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yoyoyo biip, any updates? pictures? shipping dates?
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bump for an update, we hear anything? Still on track for this goodness? :)
edit: Just saw this on the NovelKeys site: Just received an update that the factory has delayed this project until October, 2020.
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bump for an update, we hear anything? Still on track for this goodness? :)
edit: Just saw this on the NovelKeys site: Just received an update that the factory has delayed this project until October, 2020.
why isnt that posted here? ... guys come on, you can do better.
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Matte molds have been finalized.
Color sampling is almost done (I'm waiting for the final yellow batch atm).
Then we should have a more precise ETA :thumb:
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Matte molds have been finalized.
Color sampling is almost done (I'm waiting for the final yellow batch atm).
Then we should have a more precise ETA :thumb:
So glad you got them to make matte molds, would have skipped this one otherwise.
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bump for an update, we hear anything? Still on track for this goodness? :)
edit: Just saw this on the NovelKeys site: Just received an update that the factory has delayed this project until October, 2020.
my luck with GBs has been abysmal lately :(
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Any update on the new samples?
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Any update on the new samples?
Keyreative is working on the last batch of samples. Sadly they had to delay all the sets a second time (first time because of Covid) due to Milkshake QC issues.
ETA was supposed to be September tho.
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Hi, any updates on where we are with this one? Very much looking forward to seeing if it’s on track.
Thanks
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Hi, any updates on where we are with this one? Very much looking forward to seeing if it’s on track.
Thanks
Novelkeys page for wraith still says this is estimated to ship in July but the updates page says October.
https://novelkeys.xyz/pages/updates
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Hi, any updates on where we are with this one? Very much looking forward to seeing if it’s on track.
Thanks
Novelkeys page for wraith still says this is estimated to ship in July but the updates page says October.
Right - thanks for that. Shame there’s no more official news. Have to hope it’s all going well.
https://novelkeys.xyz/pages/updates
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Any news from Keyreative now that it's October?
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Sounds like Nov
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Sounds like Nov
oh sweet, an update in the GB thread from the GB organizer...
(though, seriously, thanks @kajahtaa for the update!)
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Sounds like Nov
oh sweet, an update in the GB thread from the GB organizer...
(though, seriously, thanks @kajahtaa for the update!)
But now it sounds like December. Sorry.
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My bad, I tend to post updates on my discord server and forgot to post it there.
Due to the KAT Milkshake QC issue and the pandemic, the manufacturer timeline has been heavily affected. Keyreative is actually working on the production batch. ETA is early December.
Sorry for the delay, sorry for the lack of updates and sorry the inconvenience.
Here is a pic of approved samples, natural cloudy lighting, no adjustments.
Might do more soon. (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615925193432367149/775376374416146442/IMG_8592.jpg)
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New samples look good to me. Although the blue of the 'blue/edit' keycap looks fairly light/desaturated in that pic.
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Jesus, what an awesome set. Will there be extras? It would fit my keeb perfectly.
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My bad, I tend to post updates on my discord server and forgot to post it there.
Due to the KAT Milkshake QC issue and the pandemic, the manufacturer timeline has been heavily affected. Keyreative is actually working on the production batch. ETA is early December.
Sorry for the delay, sorry for the lack of updates and sorry the inconvenience.
Here is a pic of approved samples, natural cloudy lighting, no adjustments.
Might do more soon. Show Image
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hey biip,
has that error in the intl kit in german language been fixed? Short reminder: Y and Z are swapped in german, so the red writings are not correct anymore.
KR
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My bad, I tend to post updates on my discord server and forgot to post it there.
Due to the KAT Milkshake QC issue and the pandemic, the manufacturer timeline has been heavily affected. Keyreative is actually working on the production batch. ETA is early December.
Sorry for the delay, sorry for the lack of updates and sorry the inconvenience.
Here is a pic of approved samples, natural cloudy lighting, no adjustments.
Might do more soon. Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615925193432367149/775376374416146442/IMG_8592.jpg)
hey biip,
has that error in the intl kit in german language been fixed? Short reminder: Y and Z are swapped in german, so the red writings are not correct anymore.
KR
Hey, KAM is a uniform profile which means you can swap keycaps without having a sculpt issue :)
I hope it was what you were worried about!
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Hi,
Am I missing something in the images, or are the images on the single-quote key on the intl-kit set "the wrong way around" for a UK keyboard?
E.g., I see the hash key has a large white # and smaller red ~, which is what I'd expect.
So I'd expect to see a white single-quote key, with a red @, but the colours are the other way around in the image of the intl-set set (bottom left)?
The base-kit key does have large white single quote, small red double quote, which is again what I'd expect.
I found the sets on candykeys, I think this is the best way to buy in UK? I am *very* excited:)
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Hi,
Am I missing something in the images, or are the images on the single-quote key on the intl-kit set "the wrong way around" for a UK keyboard?
E.g., I see the hash key has a large white # and smaller red ~, which is what I'd expect.
So I'd expect to see a white single-quote key, with a red @, but the colours are the other way around in the image of the intl-set set (bottom left)?
The base-kit key does have large white single quote, small red double quote, which is again what I'd expect.
I found the sets on candykeys, I think this is the best way to buy in UK? I am *very* excited:)
I don't know the answer to your question, but you're also about a year too late to make any suggestions to the kitting.
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Ah, ok, thanks anyway for replying.
I'm absolutely getting this anyway if I can<3
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Hey, will extras be released soon after shipping is completed?
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My bad, I tend to post updates on my discord server and forgot to post it there.
Due to the KAT Milkshake QC issue and the pandemic, the manufacturer timeline has been heavily affected. Keyreative is actually working on the production batch. ETA is early December.
Sorry for the delay, sorry for the lack of updates and sorry the inconvenience.
Here is a pic of approved samples, natural cloudy lighting, no adjustments.
Might do more soon. Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615925193432367149/775376374416146442/IMG_8592.jpg)
hey biip,
has that error in the intl kit in german language been fixed? Short reminder: Y and Z are swapped in german, so the red writings are not correct anymore.
KR
Hey, KAM is a uniform profile which means you can swap keycaps without having a sculpt issue :)
I hope it was what you were worried about!
Yeah, but thats the issue ;) if you change Y and Z, RETURN and AND is not longer next to OR, but next to CLEAR.
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So I'm realising now these seem to be sold out everywhere (Candykeys have a preorder button, and it goes in my basket, but says base-kit not in stock at checkout) :(
Is a second batch likely or something, I'd love to get a set somehow?
I'm new to all of this, is this thread the best place to "watch" the set?
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So I'm realising now these seem to be sold out everywhere (Candykeys have a preorder button, and it goes in my basket, but says base-kit not in stock at checkout) :(
Is a second batch likely or something, I'd love to get a set somehow?
I'm new to all of this, is this thread the best place to "watch" the set?
Most proxies have extras which they would let go. Some sell them immediately after the group buy period is over like Daily Clack. Some sell them once they have fulfilled orders like Novelkeys and ZFrontier.
The best way to know is to drop the proxies a query to see if they have extras of a set you're looking for and then subscribe to their newsletter to keep track of when they release the extras.
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very cool !!
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Most proxies have extras which they would let go ... drop [them] a query to see if they have extras of a set you're looking for and then subscribe to their newsletter to keep track of when they release...
Thanks! I've been in touch with CandyKeys and NovelKeys, and am now subscribed, very excited, I got a Spectrum on release when I was 7 years old, and programming has been my life ever since<3
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So, any update? Perhaps a member of the secret discord where all the updates seem to be posted want to share with the plebs? :p
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So, any update? Perhaps a member of the secret discord where all the updates seem to be posted want to share with the plebs? :p
Not a secret discord at all: http://discord.biipmk.com/
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last update from Keyreative:
in production - should be rolling out around Christmas-New year
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Currently in sorting phase.
Shipping to vendors should start next week or right after the new year, and this week to Asian customers.
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Currently in sorting phase.
Shipping to vendors should start next week or right after the new year, and this week to Asian customers.
Nice. Should be getting the e-white Cajal right before this, so that may be a nice combo.
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Shipping phase has begun!
(https://www.keebtalk.com/uploads/db8059/original/3X/e/2/e2915c81b8a27e64cef7e25ab7f9c88640820ede.jpeg)
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Could there be extras?
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Could there be extras?
Yes! All the vendors bought some :thumb:
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Wow! Nice!!!
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The legend spacing for each key is highly inconsistent. For example, the letter Q vs the letter U.
The U and the number 6 is about to fall off the edge of that keycap.
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The legend spacing for each key is highly inconsistent. For example, the letter Q vs the letter U.
The U and the number 6 is about to fall off the edge of that keycap.
It really depends on the batch. Some people will receive their set with legends perfectly aligned (and centered) while others might have some issues.
That's up to the manufacturer who's doing the QC. And well you can't expect all-over dye-sub to be perfect.
Customers are free to contact the vendors if the issue is too blatant though.
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Some people already get this keyset.
I am still waiting :-(
I ordered it thru CandyKeys company.
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Looks like novelkeys page has this set shipping out this month:
https://novelkeys.xyz/pages/updates
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Looks like novelkeys page has this set shipping out this month:
https://novelkeys.xyz/pages/updates
Its said that for quite a while. I saw someone in US hocking a set on mechmarket but they probably ordered from ZF
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Looks like novelkeys page has this set shipping out this month:
https://novelkeys.xyz/pages/updates
Its said that for quite a while. I saw someone in US hocking a set on mechmarket but they probably ordered from ZF
That’s still our latest estimate. zF is supposed to have the sets to us by the end of the month. If that changes, we will make an update on the page.
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Dear all,
I have not followed the GB very carefully, my bad, but I joined.
Can I ask why the pictures of the samples are currently not available?
I would like to re-see them because I have just seen a supposed real KAM Wraith picture and it looks very different (too much blue tone with a very "sad" rainbows) from renders and from the samples that I have seen some time ago and I am worried about the real look of this set.
Cheers
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Dear all,
I have not followed the GB very carefully, my bad, but I joined.
Can I ask why the pictures of the samples are currently not available?
I would like to re-see them because I have just seen a supposed real KAM Wraith picture and it looks very different (too much blue tone with a very "sad" rainbows) from renders and from the samples that I have seen some time ago and I am worried about the real look of this set.
Cheers
Hey, my Imgur account got banned.
You can still find those over the internet though:
(https://ucarecdn.com/09def91a-6aff-42cf-aa29-3d76aa0a5112~9/nth/1/)
(https://www.keebtalk.com/uploads/db8059/original/2X/e/e7555bdb54b9fcad19513ac9c16f6377750584cc.jpeg)
Note that the temperature of the pic is definitely too warm.
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Dear all,
I have not followed the GB very carefully, my bad, but I joined.
Can I ask why the pictures of the samples are currently not available?
I would like to re-see them because I have just seen a supposed real KAM Wraith picture and it looks very different (too much blue tone with a very "sad" rainbows) from renders and from the samples that I have seen some time ago and I am worried about the real look of this set.
Cheers
Hey, my Imgur account got banned.
You can still find those over the internet though:
Show Image
(https://ucarecdn.com/09def91a-6aff-42cf-aa29-3d76aa0a5112~9/nth/1/)
Show Image
(https://www.keebtalk.com/uploads/db8059/original/2X/e/e7555bdb54b9fcad19513ac9c16f6377750584cc.jpeg)
Note that the temperature of the pic is definitely too warm.
Thank you very much for re-sharing these pictures, it is really appreciated. They look definitively different from the other pictures I saw.
Cheers
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Are you ppl still waiting for this?
I got a set on candykeys and i'ts still on manufacturing state.
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Yeah, nothing happenwd so far for US and EU
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Novelkeys started sending them out now, got my shipping notification today.
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set came in today. Looks great and excited to try them out as my first KAM set.
I would say it is not quite as blue as the renders or samples seem. But that could be my monitor or the light i am in.
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They’re a *little* lighter than I was expecting. My homing bars are all haloed, which I’m not thrilled about, but other than that, really happy with the set.
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Any idea when us poor EU folk can expect our sets? Can't wait :)
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Squee! I got my extras (I'm in UK) from NovelKeys! Very pleased!
Edit: This is gone now->I have an international set, minus the UK "2", "3" and "¬" keys (which I'm using), if anyone needs them.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4HEa3aWUAQfIQD?format=jpg&name=large)
My first ever keyboard is pictured below my current one:)
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I almost got one those extas from novel keys, but they didn't have any of the space bar novelty sets available, and i just had to have that as part of the set, so I had to pass. I hope theres another round one day. I'd actually prefer a white version..
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Any idea when us poor EU folk can expect our sets? Can't wait :)
this is a real sad story - people even have all the exras before we get anything
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My first ever keyboard is pictured below my current one:)
I had a Timex-Sinclair 1500 with the rubber chicklets when I was a kid. (still have it, but it hasn't been turned on since 1988) I arrived at geekhack too late for this group buy, tho.
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I had a Timex-Sinclair 1500 with the rubber chicklets when I was a kid. (still have it, but it hasn't been turned on since 1988) I arrived at geekhack too late for this group buy, tho.
Oh, nice!
That's like a hybrid ZX-81/Spectrum, it seems! I sold all my Spectrum hardware a couple of years ago. I'd've kept hold of the Spectrum itself, but it was weird and glitchy and the keyboard wasn't working properly any more, so I eBayed it (all worth surprisingly much money!).
Candykeys said they'd make extras available after the main group buy ships, and I should subscribe to their mailing list to get notified.
It seems NovelKeys extras are sold out already (apart from international kit).
Edit: this is gone now->Ah, if anyone wants the international kit, I have all of it except 3 UK keys (2, 3, ¬), free to a good home (just pay postage), DM me or whatever.
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(https://pbase.com/bkrownd/image/156968429/original.jpg)
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<3!
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So any explanation and / or update on the EU orders ? The EU proxy (candykeys) says
we dont really know anymore, we had contact now nothing
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Now im desperate enough to register on strange forums and ask there :(
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No answers. No updates. But plenty of new products to buy from the group runner...
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No answers. No updates. But plenty of new products to buy from the group runner...
It seems like Keyreative is ghosting everyone while they figure their new process out, so I’m not sure what info you’d like from biip. “I reached out to find out what was going on and they haven’t responded” would be what’s happening with others.
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No answers. No updates. But plenty of new products to buy from the group runner...
It seems like Keyreative is ghosting everyone while they figure their new process out, so I’m not sure what info you’d like from biip. “I reached out to find out what was going on and they haven’t responded” would be what’s happening with others.
That’s what happened.
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Sad business. I think I'm going to give up all hope of ever receiving these.
Ho hum. Caveat Emptor Groupbuy.
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
My actual set isn’t nearly as saturated as the “actual sets” pic you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/mnu4wj/new_caps_day_kam_wraith_on_cajal/
It is definitely bluer than the sample pic you posted, but I feel like what I got matched my expectations.
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
My actual set isn’t nearly as saturated as the “actual sets” pic you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/mnu4wj/new_caps_day_kam_wraith_on_cajal/
It is definitely bluer than the sample pic you posted, but I feel like what I got matched my expectations.
Your picture is "better" than others, but it seems still much more bluish than the sample pictures, thus, for me, it is still desirable to clarify if something happens during the production of actual sets. I hope that the GB runner and/or the producer can clarify soon the reason for such differences (and giving a shipping timeline for EU customers).
By the way, the picture I posted is not mine, it is only a side-by-side comparison of the pictures afore posted.
My best regards.
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
My actual set isn’t nearly as saturated as the “actual sets” pic you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/mnu4wj/new_caps_day_kam_wraith_on_cajal/
It is definitely bluer than the sample pic you posted, but I feel like what I got matched my expectations.
Your picture is "better" than others, but it seems still much more bluish than the sample pictures, thus, for me, it is still desirable to clarify if something happens during the production of actual sets. I hope that the GB runner and/or the producer can clarify soon the reason for such differences (and giving a shipping timeline for EU customers).
By the way, the picture I posted is not mine, it is only a side-by-side comparison of the pictures afore posted.
My best regards.
The final color is the same as the one approved during the sampling phase (You can find the colors samples pics above, but as mentioned the temperature is slightly too warm).
My desire was to offer a cold gray, as the renders showed.
I reached Zfrontier (who's acting as middle-man between the manufactory and me) and got some info:
All kits are ready to ship. Zfrontier will proceed to the shipping of all the packages as soon as possible.
Candykeys should have more news (than me) in the upcoming days.
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
My actual set isn’t nearly as saturated as the “actual sets” pic you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/mnu4wj/new_caps_day_kam_wraith_on_cajal/
It is definitely bluer than the sample pic you posted, but I feel like what I got matched my expectations.
Your picture is "better" than others, but it seems still much more bluish than the sample pictures, thus, for me, it is still desirable to clarify if something happens during the production of actual sets. I hope that the GB runner and/or the producer can clarify soon the reason for such differences (and giving a shipping timeline for EU customers).
By the way, the picture I posted is not mine, it is only a side-by-side comparison of the pictures afore posted.
My best regards.
The final color is the same as the one approved during the sampling phase (You can find the colors samples pics above, but as mentioned the temperature is slightly too warm).
My desire was to offer a cold gray, as the renders showed.
I reached Zfrontier (who's acting as middle-man between the manufactory and me) and got some info:
All kits are ready to ship. Zfrontier will proceed to the shipping of all the packages as soon as possible.
Candykeys should have more news (than me) in the upcoming days.
Dear biip, I am very happy to hear that also EU customers will have soon our sets, good news finally. By the way, all the pictures I saw of US sets are far from your samples pictures and I have doubts that the differences are due to only warm lights. Let us see what will get.
My best regards.
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
My actual set isn’t nearly as saturated as the “actual sets” pic you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/mnu4wj/new_caps_day_kam_wraith_on_cajal/
It is definitely bluer than the sample pic you posted, but I feel like what I got matched my expectations.
Your picture is "better" than others, but it seems still much more bluish than the sample pictures, thus, for me, it is still desirable to clarify if something happens during the production of actual sets. I hope that the GB runner and/or the producer can clarify soon the reason for such differences (and giving a shipping timeline for EU customers).
By the way, the picture I posted is not mine, it is only a side-by-side comparison of the pictures afore posted.
My best regards.
The final color is the same as the one approved during the sampling phase (You can find the colors samples pics above, but as mentioned the temperature is slightly too warm).
My desire was to offer a cold gray, as the renders showed.
I reached Zfrontier (who's acting as middle-man between the manufactory and me) and got some info:
All kits are ready to ship. Zfrontier will proceed to the shipping of all the packages as soon as possible.
Candykeys should have more news (than me) in the upcoming days.
Dear biip, I am very happy to hear that also EU customers will have soon our sets, good news finally. By the way, all the pictures I saw of US sets are far from your samples pictures and I have doubts that the differences are due to only warm lights. Let us see what will get.
My best regards.
Indeed, it's also due to white balance.
The pics (randomly found on Twitter) are definitely heterogeneous though.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErXTYyRU0AECbh_?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErL3wfrVkAUIOce.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErMcd6EVEAIfP5n.jpg:large)
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Hi all,
I saw some pictures of the very lucky customers that have already got their own sets: all the pictures look very different from the sample ones (much more bluish/greenish than the sample grey), I think that the differences cannot be explained only by means of different pictures lights.
Are there some problems during the production of actual sets?
Is there a shipping timeline for EU customers and/or a timeline for new updates?
Regards
My actual set isn’t nearly as saturated as the “actual sets” pic you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/mnu4wj/new_caps_day_kam_wraith_on_cajal/
It is definitely bluer than the sample pic you posted, but I feel like what I got matched my expectations.
Your picture is "better" than others, but it seems still much more bluish than the sample pictures, thus, for me, it is still desirable to clarify if something happens during the production of actual sets. I hope that the GB runner and/or the producer can clarify soon the reason for such differences (and giving a shipping timeline for EU customers).
By the way, the picture I posted is not mine, it is only a side-by-side comparison of the pictures afore posted.
My best regards.
The final color is the same as the one approved during the sampling phase (You can find the colors samples pics above, but as mentioned the temperature is slightly too warm).
My desire was to offer a cold gray, as the renders showed.
I reached Zfrontier (who's acting as middle-man between the manufactory and me) and got some info:
All kits are ready to ship. Zfrontier will proceed to the shipping of all the packages as soon as possible.
Candykeys should have more news (than me) in the upcoming days.
Dear biip, I am very happy to hear that also EU customers will have soon our sets, good news finally. By the way, all the pictures I saw of US sets are far from your samples pictures and I have doubts that the differences are due to only warm lights. Let us see what will get.
My best regards.
Indeed, it's also due to white balance.
The pics (randomly found on Twitter) are definitely heterogeneous though.
Show Image
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErXTYyRU0AECbh_?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Show Image
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErL3wfrVkAUIOce.jpg:large)
Show Image
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErMcd6EVEAIfP5n.jpg:large)
Thank you again biip. I hope that the actual set is much more like the last 2 pictures that are much close to your sample (the grey-greenish seems to be closer to renders than bluish pictures).
My best regards.
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Remaining sets are now on their way to Candykeys!
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Finally :p
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Got shipping notification from CK yesterday!
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Yay, I finally received my shipping message from CandyKeys.
Brexit has come and gone since I ordered this set, it'll be fun to see what new and exciting guff I have to deal with importing stuff from the EU now!
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am i the only one who didn’t get a shipping notification from candykeys?
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Nope, some are still waiting.
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My all KAM Wraith sets arrived from Candy keys.
I did my keyboards, but I made mistake. On Ergo kit I miss. I would make one more keyboard with it. :-(
Now I have many control keys without base… :-(
About KAM Wrait, I miss:
-1U ESC on Ergo
-more 1U Symbol Shift
-1.25U Symbol Shif
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am i the only one who didn’t get a shipping notification from candykeys?
I got a notification that they had them and that I’d get an email from DPD or someone. Heard nothing. So excited for this set. Now I couldn’t care less about it.
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am i the only one who didn’t get a shipping notification from candykeys?
I got a notification that they had them and that I’d get an email from DPD or someone. Heard nothing. So excited for this set. Now I couldn’t care less about it.
Yep, that's been my experience too.
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Small update: to date, some of the orders from Candykeys.com are still unfulfilled.
Also, wanted to flag that, to date, the communication with them (Candykeys.com) is borderline infuriating:
- their updates are rare: last update from them was Sept 9th in Biip's Discord. The last update in their Discord was September 1st.
- their updates are vague and uninformative: we don't know what's wrong, don't have ETA, commitment on timelines doesn't exist.
It's 7 days I'm waiting for a reply in their Discord. I have the feeling this should not take so much effort.
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Dealing with Candykeys is always incredibly difficult. I know the missing units aren’t their fault but their communication is inexcusably bad, KAT Milkshake was the same. I’m still waiting for my Milkshake deskmat. Two years after ordering it. At this point I refuse to order through them again.
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Dealing with Candykeys is always incredibly difficult. I know the missing units aren’t their fault but their communication is inexcusably bad, KAT Milkshake was the same. I’m still waiting for my Milkshake deskmat. Two years after ordering it. At this point I refuse to order through them again.
I hate to say it, but if you start posting on their social media accounts that they are screwing you over, they will get back to you with-in MINUTES.
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Got my shipping notification in July, still nothing from CK. What the actual **** are they up to?
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Candykeys was selling extra base kits this morning. I thought I had missed out on this one! No extra spacebar kits tho.
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Candykeys was selling extra base kits this morning. I thought I had missed out on this one! No extra spacebar kits tho.
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That's why i decided to pass on it.
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Welp, that's another year gone. Still f**k all.
Going to write this one off, not going to touch either the creator nor the vendor again.
Shame, this is a nice looking set.
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Welp, that's another year gone. Still f**k all.
Going to write this one off, not going to touch either the creator nor the vendor again.
Shame, this is a nice looking set.
I doubt you can accuse me to be related to the delay regarding the delivery of the set since somehow Novelkeys was able to deliver it on April.
If you encounter issues with the delivery of your order, please contact the proxy you went through.
Sorry for the trouble.
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I've been typing on mine for a month now. If you ordered a set I hope it gets to you soon.
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Welp, that's another year gone. Still f**k all.
Going to write this one off, not going to touch either the creator nor the vendor again.
Shame, this is a nice looking set.
I doubt you can accuse me to be related to the delay regarding the delivery of the set since somehow Novelkeys was able to deliver it on April.
If you encounter issues with the delivery of your order, please contact the proxy you went through.
Sorry for the trouble.
I have. Repeatedly. All I get is excuses. It's CandyKeys by the way, he seems to have some issues.
Sorry I guess I shouldn't have laid into you personally, but it's very frustrating even if it's something of a first world problem.
Maybe you should avoid CK as a proxy in future?
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Welp, that's another year gone. Still f**k all.
Going to write this one off, not going to touch either the creator nor the vendor again.
Shame, this is a nice looking set.
I doubt you can accuse me to be related to the delay regarding the delivery of the set since somehow Novelkeys was able to deliver it on April.
If you encounter issues with the delivery of your order, please contact the proxy you went through.
Sorry for the trouble.
I have. Repeatedly. All I get is excuses. It's CandyKeys by the way, he seems to have some issues.
Sorry I guess I shouldn't have laid into you personally, but it's very frustrating even if it's something of a first world problem.
Maybe you should avoid CK as a proxy in future?
The 'creator' you should be concerned about is the manufacturer, Keyreative. I'm not sure to what extent/if there was a mistake on Candykeys' end, but a shortage of kits was created and IMO the manufacturer doesn't seem to treat replacements with enough priority (e.g. KAT Milkshake replacement ISO Enter keys only being sent recently). It's frustrating as hell, but my advice would be to avoid KAM and KAT sets in future, especially since Keyreative's communication is garbage and it often translates into limited communication from vendors too.
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Candykeys listed extras of the extension kit in-stock this morning.
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Great layout, but doesn't seem to have the extra B