Post by: kekkon on Tue, 24 January 2017, 07:45:53
GMK Dolch & x-CMYW Group Buy
Fill in the form if you have address changes (https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2)
GB Timeline
1. GB Period: 24/Jan ~ 22/March
2. Payment to GMK: 22/March ~ 14/April
3. Production Stage: 10~12 weeks
4. Estimate shipping date from GMK: 21 JULY 2018←
5. GB Completion: SEPT/OCT 2017.
Latest Revision (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
* CC space bars come with 6.25u & 7u
** TU2 and MG1 space bars come with 6u,6.25u & 7u
Current Progress :
Dolch Icon: 207/250
Dolch AddOn: 154/150
Dolch Color Kits: 173/150
x-CMYW: 141/150
CC Space bars: 228/250
TU2 Space bars: 92
MG1 Space bars: 49
Paid Progress :
Dolch Icon: 186/250
Dolch AddOn: 145/150
Dolch Color Kits: 158/150
x-CMYW: 130/150
CC Space bars: 205/250
Description:-
1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.
2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1. :thumb:
3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it. :p
4. Color used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
Shipping
With Dolch Icon: Estimate $20~$30 depend on location.
Small kits : Start from $10.
Fill in the form if you have address changes (https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2)
GB Timeline
1. GB Period: 24/Jan ~ 22/March
2. Payment to GMK: 22/March ~ 14/April
3. Production Stage: 10~12 weeks
4. Estimate shipping date from GMK: 21 JULY 2018←
5. GB Completion: SEPT/OCT 2017.
Latest Revision (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
* CC space bars come with 6.25u & 7u
** TU2 and MG1 space bars come with 6u,6.25u & 7u
Current Progress :
Dolch Icon: 207/250
Dolch AddOn: 154/150
Dolch Color Kits: 173/150
x-CMYW: 141/150
CC Space bars: 228/250
TU2 Space bars: 92
MG1 Space bars: 49
Paid Progress :
Dolch Icon: 186/250
Dolch AddOn: 145/150
Dolch Color Kits: 158/150
x-CMYW: 130/150
CC Space bars: 205/250
Description:-
1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.
2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1. :thumb:
3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it. :p
4. Color used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
Shipping
With Dolch Icon: Estimate $20~$30 depend on location.
Small kits : Start from $10.
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 24 January 2017, 07:46:02
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:44:47
And as always, Caveat Emptor (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0)
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:56:44
Post by: romevi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:02:04
Post by: PoisonKing on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:48:11
Post by: gandroider on Thu, 26 January 2017, 19:49:58
Thank you.
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 20:00:04
Post by: YH YOON on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:16:59
Post by: VereChi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:37:47
This is a favorable price:)
Post by: calavera on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:18:50
Post by: asdflkj01 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 02:16:01
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 27 January 2017, 03:25:04
Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort
However, the pricing is decent
Post by: kmba on Fri, 27 January 2017, 08:16:18
As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it
Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort
However, the pricing is decent
Yes, other Gmk dolch offerings have come with some blanks, some mods with cyan legends, some dark and cyan alphas, etc .. but they were more expensive as a result from the base through all the mod packs. This is reasonably priced comparatively I think for what you get.
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 10:12:52
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 27 January 2017, 13:47:21
As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it
Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort
However, the pricing is decent
As a Dolch enthusiast, I don't like it
Apart from the x-CMYW, there is no innovation, there are no blanks, there is a heavy mix of text and icon's, there is no osx-love, even the renders lack effort
However, the pricing is decent
Yes, other Gmk dolch offerings have come with some blanks, some mods with cyan legends, some dark and cyan alphas, etc .. but they were more expensive as a result from the base through all the mod packs. This is reasonably priced comparatively I think for what you get.
This buy was originally intended as just add ons for people with Ivan's Dolch set. People that didn't have it requested a simple Dolch set as well. The x-CMYW was also added on at people's request. Have a look at the IC https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.0)
edit: mistype
Post by: Ail on Fri, 27 January 2017, 16:49:02
Post by: bkw1209 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 11:33:52
please answer.
Post by: poolside on Sun, 29 January 2017, 17:12:26
Post by: airs on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:38:11
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:32:04
Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:32:34
I wrote the same Google form twice. I hope you will do only one ting.
please answer.
I'll delete the first response.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:36:26
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:53:58
Kekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?
I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.
Thanks.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:26:13
I measured the size of the keyset tray, I don't have any of the smaller trays to measureKekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?
I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.
Thanks.
Width x length x height
45cm x 20cm x 3cm
Stacking two trays brings the height to 4.5cm, I think adding another tray should just add 1.5 more cm
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 31 January 2017, 23:16:37
I measured the size of the keyset tray, I don't have any of the smaller trays to measureKekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?
I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.
Thanks.
Width x length x height
45cm x 20cm x 3cm
Stacking two trays brings the height to 4.5cm, I think adding another tray should just add 1.5 more cm
If you don't want the bandalore, then we can use this size. But now GMK has a tray+bandalore as a standard, so this will be a different story.
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 01 February 2017, 00:37:00
I measured the size of the keyset tray, I don't have any of the smaller trays to measureKekkon, what if we order more than one set, does the price for shipping go up a lot?
I am still waiting for the packing size from GMk actually, I remember I saw the packing size from another GMK GB but I forget which, if someone has the idea please enlighten me so I can do some calculation on this.
Thanks.
Width x length x height
45cm x 20cm x 3cm
Stacking two trays brings the height to 4.5cm, I think adding another tray should just add 1.5 more cm
If you don't want the bandalore, then we can use this size. But now GMK has a tray+bandalore as a standard, so this will be a different story.
The white sleeving around the tray? In that case, it should be easier to calculate the dimensions of more than one tray. Just add 3cm for every extra tray
(http://i.imgur.com/U0IpMhs.jpg)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 01 February 2017, 01:24:22
The white sleeving around the tray? In that case, it should be easier to calculate the dimensions of more than one tray. Just add 3cm for every extra tray
:thumb:
I will do the calculation now.
** It appear that it is still ~1kg for 2 Tray, which is around ±$21 shipping to US. But we are thinking on adding some cardbox to protect the top and bottom of the tray, which I think will make the shipping cost become ±$25 due to the size increase.
Post by: lee jeong woo on Wed, 01 February 2017, 11:15:51
I don`t like side printing on the number keypad
Consider it.
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 01 February 2017, 11:32:55
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 01 February 2017, 14:17:25
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?Show Image(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)
Yeah, it's from the Uniqey logo.
(https://uniqey.net/media/image/76/62/53/GMK-Uniqey-Logo_d-RGB.jpg)
Post by: poolside on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:23:28
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.
However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 04:00:19
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.
However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
If so, do you have any suggestion?
** Updated the main post with new rendering.
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 07:53:23
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?Show Image(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)
I am not sure if we are permit to use them. :))
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:02:11
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?Show Image(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)
I am not sure if we are permit to use them. :))
Perhaps we can ask?
At least then it will be a great addition instead of yet another two advertising caps for GMK and its UNIQEY.
Post by: need on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:14:59
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?Show Image(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)
I am not sure if we are permit to use them. :))
Perhaps we can ask?
At least then it will be a great addition instead of yet another two advertising caps for GMK and its UNIQEY.
I agree with this man, what's the point of UNIQEY no one's going to use that ****
Use that money and put in a 2u key instead. It can be used on filco minila as a shift, and planck as a spacebar.
That's just a thought, it just seem like a very dumb decision to have 3 completely useless keys.
Post by: Acerk on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:20:51
Submitted.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:23:44
By the way, what does the 'Q' R1 key stands for?
I think that's representing 'UNIQEY' keyboard, if we are not representing that company, can we get something like the classic "Geek Hack" key or "DT" keys instead?Show Image(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o713/jecrouse/Black%20Friday%20Sale/122-ForumCaps_zpsc688cac8.jpg)
I am not sure if we are permit to use them. :))
Perhaps we can ask?
At least then it will be a great addition instead of yet another two advertising caps for GMK and its UNIQEY.
I agree with this man, what's the point of UNIQEY no one's going to use that ****
Use that money and put in a 2u key instead. It can be used on filco minila as a shift, and planck as a spacebar.
That's just a thought, it just seem like a very dumb decision to have 3 completely useless keys.
2u key (e.g. blank or icon shift) is indeed very practical and useful addition.
The redundant keys issue is also true on the GMK Dolch Color Kits for the two 'GMK' and 'UNIQEY' keys.
Please think about how to make good use of it.
Every GB of GMK Dolch will be popular. Please make it a useful and careful run, so that everyone will have good memory about you.
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:35:46
The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost. :D
I'll ask for the permission on using DT and GH forum keys.
We are now half way to the MOQ by adding up GH+Taobao Orders. (75 for base, 66 for AddOn, 57 for Color Kits & 55 for CMYW), I will start sending out the invoices on next week if the order >100 for base and AddOn.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:51:19
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79535.0
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 09:52:42
Calm down everyone. :)
The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost. :D
I'll ask for the permission on using DT and GH forum keys.
We are now half way to the MOQ by adding up GH+Taobao Orders. (75 for base, 66 for AddOn, 57 for Color Kits & 55 for CMYW), I will start sending out the invoices on next week if the order >100 for base and AddOn.
Will the group buy still be open till March or if we start hitting MOQ sooner will it close sooner?
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:46:02
Post by: kmba on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:35:05
Calm down everyone. :)
The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost. :D
I'll ask for the permission on using DT and GH forum keys.
We are now half way to the MOQ by adding up GH+Taobao Orders. (75 for base, 66 for AddOn, 57 for Color Kits & 55 for CMYW), I will start sending out the invoices on next week if the order >100 for base and AddOn.
Thanks for the update. I definitely want to join, but only if the cyan color kit will hit MOQ, so please keep the numbers coming.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 02 February 2017, 15:54:22
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 February 2017, 19:38:00
@Kekkon what are the color codes for these?
Color used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
Post by: dadoduk on Fri, 03 February 2017, 07:42:17
Post by: need on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:26:43
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:27:34
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:50:08
I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.
I support this idea.
By the way, isn't Minila's space bar 3u?
Post by: r5d on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:16:33
Post by: need on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:39:03
I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.
I support this idea.
By the way, isn't Minila's space bar 3u?
It's the 2u shift key that minila is severely lacking, it's basically non existent...so I think a blanck one would make a good compromise. Planck users can also benefit from it.
enjoypbt makes 3u spacebars in cherry profile, so spacebar is not a problem. Shift key is.
Post by: airs on Fri, 03 February 2017, 14:45:52
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:10:10
Post by: lolitslunchbox on Sat, 04 February 2017, 02:50:20
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 04 February 2017, 07:55:08
Post by: gojira54 on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:34:39
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:10:57
$20-$30 shipping is a bit excessive, otherwise I would consider this GB, great choices ;)
This is because of the trays. :-X
Me and my friend as still discussing if we should allowed people to OPT for old zip-lock bag packing so the shipping cost will be lower, but then if there are scratches, they can't get replaced.
I know chances is slim, but is it there any way to add a 2u blanck? That would at least make this kit usable on a Planck and Minila.
I think this is a good suggestion, I will ask for a new quote together with Forum Logo Keys.
The Windows Diamond logo is doubleshot or pad printed?
Double Shot.
kekkon, can you add x-CMYW kit and MG1 Space bars to my order please? After adding those I should have all kits in my order, correct?
Yeap.
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:20:46
We are currently at around 60(GH+China), so those who order late will not get them, unless we reach 150sets for this GB(which is unlikely) then only we will place order with GMK again.
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:29:55
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:31:27
If I filled out the form from the IC thread do I need to fill out the one from this thread to order, or am I good? Just wanna make sure..
You are good, it is the same form.
Post by: need on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:33:36
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:35:39
If I filled out the form from the IC thread do I need to fill out the one from this thread to order, or am I good? Just wanna make sure..
You are good, it is the same form.
Hey Kekkon, sent you a message concerning my missing keycaps, could you please update me? :(
Post by: lolitslunchbox on Sat, 04 February 2017, 22:26:11
Cyan(TU2) space bars is actually leftover from my previous GB(Dolch Reborn) and only have 50sets available.
We are currently at around 60(GH+China), so those who order late will not get them, unless we reach 150sets for this GB(which is unlikely) then only we will place order with GMK again.
Is there any way to find out if we are within the 50, if we already submitted the form.
Post by: Jumie on Sun, 05 February 2017, 00:01:53
Post by: ctrlX on Sun, 05 February 2017, 02:45:20
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 05 February 2017, 05:11:55
Post by: ctrlX on Sun, 05 February 2017, 05:18:03
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sun, 05 February 2017, 10:46:04
I was hoping to get a Dolch AddOn for my OG WoB set (for hhkb layout), but now I realize that the colors might conflict.
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 05 February 2017, 11:25:27
I have update the 2nd post with order information, please check your order information: goo.gl/uR8YMe (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)
Hey Kekkon, sorry to bug you again but could you please reply to my message concerning the missing keycaps? You told me you'd get back to me on Saturday. :(
Post by: poolside on Sun, 05 February 2017, 11:36:57
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.
However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backtick? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backtick from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
If so, do you have any suggestion?
** Updated the main post with new rendering.
If one can use the ISO XT layout on a non-programmable off-the-shelf board, that's fine.
Otherwise, instead of the R3 tilde/backtick, I would suggest another pipe/backslash cap to support US-International. This layout actually has two of these keys. effectiveduck and Originative did this with their recent WoB keyset. GMK SoWaRe also has two pipe/backslash caps for ISO. Blanks could be an option too.
Post by: soilheart on Sun, 05 February 2017, 13:09:18
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.
However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backtick? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backtick from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
If so, do you have any suggestion?
** Updated the main post with new rendering.
If one can use the ISO XT layout on a non-programmable off-the-shelf board, that's fine.
Otherwise, instead of the R3 tilde/backtick, I would suggest another pipe/backslash cap to support US-International. This layout actually has two of these keys. effectiveduck and Originative did this with their recent WoB keyset. GMK SoWaRe also has two pipe/backslash caps for ISO. Blanks could be an option too.
Yeah, even though neither is correct for Swedish layout I'd prefer the R3 ISO Key to be \| as it's basically a replacement for the R2 \| on an ANSI keyboard. (I would prefer a <>| key for the R2, but I feel like there's more UK ISO users around than NORDE, so I won't argue for that).
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 05 February 2017, 14:05:18
2. Perhaps the two diamond keys on the Add-on set can be 1.5u to resemble better the meta keys of the HHKB.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Metakey.jpg)
Otherwise, one has to use the 1.5u Alt keys or 1.5u Ctrl keys for the HHKB layout.
I'm not an ISO layout user but out of curiosity have dug up some ISO layouts:
More
ANSI (for comparison)
(http://i.imgur.com/kWuSr.png)
ISO UK
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/uk-layout.svg)
ISO German
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/german-layout.svg)
ISO Swedish
(http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png)
ISO Greek
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/KB_Greek.svg)
For reference:
UK international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8d/HONEYB_UK_SPH.png)
DE/DK/NO/SE international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/6/65/HONEYB_INTER_SPH.png)
HHKB support
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8f/HONEYB_HHKBMOD_BLUE.png)
A previous run of SkiDATA+
It actually has 65%/75% support and 1800 support. But it only has 1 HHKB control key, lacking the stepped HHKB control key option, and doesn't have the 1.5 meta keys for the HHKB layout either.
On the other hand, its ISO support was perhaps quite well examined and it has other goodies such as 1u backspace and a few LED key caps etc.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/kWuSr.png)
ISO UK
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/uk-layout.svg)
ISO German
(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/german-layout.svg)
ISO Swedish
(http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png)
ISO Greek
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/KB_Greek.svg)
For reference:
UK international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8d/HONEYB_UK_SPH.png)
DE/DK/NO/SE international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/6/65/HONEYB_INTER_SPH.png)
HHKB support
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8f/HONEYB_HHKBMOD_BLUE.png)
A previous run of SkiDATA+
It actually has 65%/75% support and 1800 support. But it only has 1 HHKB control key, lacking the stepped HHKB control key option, and doesn't have the 1.5 meta keys for the HHKB layout either.
On the other hand, its ISO support was perhaps quite well examined and it has other goodies such as 1u backspace and a few LED key caps etc.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png)
Post by: gojira54 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:42:51
The Fn keys are the only reason I'm buying the add on kit...
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:54:09
>1. Just spotted that the 2 'Fn' keys on the Add-on set are redundant.
The Fn keys are the only reason I'm buying the add on kit...
I see, but they are present on the base kit as well.
Kekkon please think about replacing those 2 'Fn' keys in the base kit with something nice, as seen in the reference post (e.g. GB of GMK SkiDATA+) above.
Edit: But it doesn't make sense not to include those 2 'Fn' keys in the base-kit. It may be nice if those can be supplied as an additional kit for the few buyers. For those who are getting both the Base kit and the Add-on kit, it doesn't hurt to have 2 extra redundant 'Fn' keys (R3 1.25u and R4 1u), despite being a bit wasteful.
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 06 February 2017, 12:03:49
1. Just spotted that the 2 'Fn' keys on the Add-on set are redundant.
2. Perhaps the two diamond keys on the Add-on set can be 1.5u to resemble better the meta keys of the HHKB.Show Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Metakey.jpg)
Otherwise, one has to use the 1.5u Alt keys or 1.5u Ctrl keys for the HHKB layout.
I'm not an ISO layout user but out of curiosity have dug up some ISO layouts:MoreANSI (for comparison)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kWuSr.png)
ISO UKShow Image(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/uk-layout.svg)
ISO GermanShow Image(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/german-layout.svg)
ISO SwedishShow Image(http://hack.org/mc/images/KB_Sweden.png)
ISO GreekShow Image(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/KB_Greek.svg)
For reference:
UK international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8d/HONEYB_UK_SPH.png)
DE/DK/NO/SE international kit for Round 6 (by 7bit)Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/6/65/HONEYB_INTER_SPH.png)
HHKB supportShow Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/8/8f/HONEYB_HHKBMOD_BLUE.png)
A previous run of SkiDATA+
Doesn't have 1800 support or 65%/75% support and only has 1 HHKB control key, lacking the stepped HHKB control key option, doesn't have the 1.5 meta keys for the HHKB layout either.
On the other hand, its ISO support was perhaps quite well examined.Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidataorangemod.png)
<> Near the left shift is the way to go
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:22:16
(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)
I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.
The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.
And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work. ;D
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 06 February 2017, 20:23:45
Hey kekkon, I just want to clarify one thing. The base modifiers is N9 instead of CR because IvanDolch base modifiers were N9 right?
I was hoping to get a Dolch AddOn for my OG WoB set (for hhkb layout), but now I realize that the colors might conflict.
Dolch has always been N9, dark grey. It won't match OG WoB, if you want an hhkb layout you can consider the Wob Icon Mod by zenny, which has some ready stock. :)
Post by: gnmar2723 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:03:48
Hey kekkon, I just want to clarify one thing. The base modifiers is N9 instead of CR because IvanDolch base modifiers were N9 right?
I was hoping to get a Dolch AddOn for my OG WoB set (for hhkb layout), but now I realize that the colors might conflict.
Dolch has always been N9, dark grey. It won't match OG WoB, if you want an hhkb layout you can consider the Wob Icon Mod by zenny, which has some ready stock. :)
I have the icon mod set, I just like the style of backspace on your kit way more than the one in the icon mods kit (It looks like the og backspace keys) My last hope is to try and get one from GMK Originative
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:42:07
kekkon's inclusion of 1u modifiers of the bottom row, on the other hand, are some really nice additions.
kekkon has previous experience of GMK groupbuys, for example GMK UNIQEY-Blue (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84142.msg2243671#msg2243671), GMK DolchReborn (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85147.msg2279414#msg2279414), and the handling of GMK 9009. On the other hand, the previous runs of some GMK kits (such as GMK SKIDATA+) managed to have good layout support with a relatively small set. It is not easy to divide the Dolch set to please all people: 1) the first time Dolch set buyers, 2) those bought Ivan's run of GMK Dolch, and 3) those who has Dolch keyboards (this is only a smaller group comparatively).
Perhaps there can be some slight relocation of keys in the division of GMK Dolch set into the base kit and the Add-on kit.
More
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/skidatabase.png)
Post by: Mykii22 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:48:20
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 08 February 2017, 06:32:56
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this. :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)
those keys are perfect
Post by: Applet on Wed, 08 February 2017, 10:02:51
Post by: autobot on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:52:08
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 February 2017, 23:12:28
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
This should be standard. The XT ISO is the only actually compatible layout to use an ANSI set along with an ISO Enter. Well done.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 February 2017, 23:20:17
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
This should be standard. The XT ISO is the only actually compatible layout to use an ANSI set along with an ISO Enter. Well done.
Edit: is the XT layout going to be finally kept? I just want to double check it before ordering.
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 February 2017, 07:39:46
It seems the GH and DT keys can be used, and I have draft a quick kits for it. Any feed backs are appreaciated.
(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:02:00
Hi everyone,
It seems the GH and DT keys can be used, and I have draft a quick kits for it. Any feed backs are appreaciated.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
not sure of what looks better, but isn't geekhack generally used lowercase?
geek
hack
GEEK
HACK
GH (big standard font)
GH (small font, like function key)
geek (top printed)
hack (front printed)
geekhack (in a 1.25 R4 key) nice one!
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:09:25
Hi everyone,
It seems the GH and DT keys can be used, and I have draft a quick kits for it. Any feed backs are appreaciated.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
not sure of what looks better, but isn't geekhack generally used lowercase?
geek
hack
GEEK
HACK
GH (big standard font)
GH (small font, like function key)
geek (top printed)
hack (front printed)
geekhack (in a 1.25 R4 key) nice one!
Yeah, it's either all caps or all lower case.
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:29:13
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Kd7_15NGZsM/UD9NkkL0KlI/AAAAAAAAB7M/zaVNmY40h5Y/s220/deskthority.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/u7EIj.png)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:41:12
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this. :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)
I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.
The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.
And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work. ;D
These keys belong to the German layout and their legends are redundant with ANSI's keys #3, ,< and .>, how they are suppose to be useful along with an ANSI layout? The Kekkon's proposed keys are compatible with an ANSI set as they provide the symbols to use an ISO Enter without loosing any legend on the keyboard.
The German layout requires many more keys to be completed, including the entire top number row, the symbol keys and the accented special letters, so how having two keys may do any good to an ANSI set? I know that they have been traditionally included in contemporary sets, but that does not make them any more useful.
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:03:56
I don't know where poolside is coming from, but his concern with a redundant Tilde key on the layout.
However, when such a setting is used on a 60%, and the R1 Tilde is replaced by the Esc key, it is just perfect. It is, however, not yet the UK ISO layout, and definitely not the DE / SE / DK / NO etc layout. Instead, I think a good addition can be the R1 1u Backspace key.
Which a proper international set, it is not possible to please users of all other languages.
I guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this. :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)
I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.
The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.
And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work. ;D
These keys belong to the German layout and their legends are redundant with ANSI's keys #3, ,< and .>, how they are suppose to be useful along with an ANSI layout? The Kekkon's proposed keys are compatible with an ANSI set as they provide the symbols to use an ISO Enter without loosing any legend on the keyboard.
The German layout requires many more keys to be completed, including the entire top number row, the symbol keys and the accented special letters, so how having two keys may do any good to an ANSI set? I know that they have been traditionally included in contemporary sets, but that does not make them any more useful.
Poolside, what do you think? The original arrangement fits the rest of the ANSI and the R1 Tilde can be replaced by the Esc key in a 60% setting.
Hi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.
However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:19:44
ISO-Enter-Compatibility could be provided with the two proposed keys (R4 \| and R3 `~) providing flexibility for using an ISO Enter along with the set, at the minimum cost, with no redundant legends. A possible addition would be an R3 \| key, for those that want to use an standard 2.25u left shift and that will keep the R1 `~; along with an ISO Enter.
International-Support is a different animal and it does not seem that providing such support is within the scope of the set. In any case, it will require more keys and the cost of the main set would increase, or additional child sets should be added.
The UK layout is the closest one to ANSI and it could be provided with as few as six keys, or even with alternate side printed legeds (That I think are not aesthetic at all). Any other layout will require far more keys. The best option would be the recent proposed combined set by Wodam's.
Edit: I will provide a few pictures and some additional details tonight, for all to join the conversation on these two options. The OP is very willing to listen to us.
Post by: need on Fri, 10 February 2017, 09:49:41
Examples of DT:Show Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Kd7_15NGZsM/UD9NkkL0KlI/AAAAAAAAB7M/zaVNmY40h5Y/s220/deskthority.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/u7EIj.png)
This one please!
Post by: poolside on Fri, 10 February 2017, 19:01:49
MoreHi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
This should be standard. The XT ISO is the only actually compatible layout to use an ANSI set along with an ISO Enter. Well done.
US-International on physical ANSI + ISO Enter might work too. I am using this right now.
How to use the XT ISO layout with a modern computer? (honest question)
I could not find XT ISO in the input settings of my Windows machine. I don't know what is possible with Unix-like boxes, though.
I agree with you ideus.
I don't know where poolside is coming from, but his concern with a redundant Tilde key on the layout.
However, when such a setting is used on a 60%, and the R1 Tilde is replaced by the Esc key, it is just perfect. It is, however, not yet the UK ISO layout, and definitely not the DE / SE / DK / NO etc layout. Instead, I think a good addition can be the R1 1u Backspace key.
Which a proper international set, it is not possible to please users of all other languages.MoreI guess I will use the 9009 ISO keys for this. :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wJymA2s.png)
I am still waiting for reply regarding the forum keys.
The MOQ now is sitting near 100 for Base, 80 for AddOn.
And for the invoicing, me and my friend found an alternative, which could bring the conversation rate down and in the result, a cheaper price. I will update this when we come out with a result, hopefully this will work. ;D
These keys belong to the German layout and their legends are redundant with ANSI's keys #3, ,< and .>, how they are suppose to be useful along with an ANSI layout? The Kekkon's proposed keys are compatible with an ANSI set as they provide the symbols to use an ISO Enter without loosing any legend on the keyboard.
The German layout requires many more keys to be completed, including the entire top number row, the symbol keys and the accented special letters, so how having two keys may do any good to an ANSI set? I know that they have been traditionally included in contemporary sets, but that does not make them any more useful.
Poolside, what do you think? The original arrangement fits the rest of the ANSI and the R1 Tilde can be replaced by the Esc key in a 60% setting.MoreHi everyone, I am away last week for Chinese New Year. I will start compile the order later. :thumb:Which 1u R3 keycap will be used for ISO to the left of Enter? The mockup has a tilde/backslash keycap in that location, but I assume this is a mistake.
The ISO keys is the same with IBM XT iso. :)
Oh, so you borrowed the idea from ideus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86412.msg2328404#msg2328404). This makes sense now.
However, if one puts the ISO kit on a board, which keycap will then replace the R1 tilde/backslash? The picture in ideus' post shows a "x" keycap. There are no other 1u R1 alpha-colored caps in the set or add-ons which fit though. The R1 pipe/backslash from the HHKB add-on kit could certainly be used but it would "conflict" with the R4 pipe/backslash from the ISO add-on kit. Plus, these two duplicates would be pretty close on the left side of the keyboard.
I also agree about the German R4 <>| and R3 '# caps being redundant when using the ISO Enter + short Shift on top of ANSI.
On 60% boards, the XT ISO kit might be fine with no redundant legends. For bigger keyboards, however, you can keep with the usual R1 `~ from ANSI or use the R1 \| from the HHKB add-on instead. Whichever the choice, you get redundant `~ or \| legends. This, assuming you want to keep the alpha/mods color scheme separation consistent.
US-International on ANSI with ISO Enter + short Shift gets you two \| keycaps (R4 next to the short Shift and R3 next to Enter) as well, but these are both useful as the right char gets printed when you press them. With XT ISO on a TKL or full-size board, what is printed when you hit the leftmost R1 key of the numrow?
ISO-Enter-Compatibility could be provided with the two proposed keys (R4 \| and R3 `~) providing flexibility for using an ISO Enter along with the set, at the minimum cost, with no redundant legends.
Wouldn't the R1 `~ be redundant with the R3 `~?
The UK layout is the closest one to ANSI and it could be provided with as few as six keys, or even with alternate side printed legeds (That I think are not aesthetic at all).
Alternate "international" side prints are the reason why I did not join GMK SoWaRe and did not get the GMK Dolch Reborn base set.
Post by: raigedeg on Sat, 11 February 2017, 07:16:10
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 13 February 2017, 06:38:54
Was travelling last weekend, so am no able to reply to this thread.
The font/image that I will be using is as below, while the image I post up there is for color reference only...sorry for the confusion.
(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DflI9kt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DflI9kt.jpg)
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 07:58:16
Could you modify my form please? I only need the Color kit now, my original form was: Dolch Icon, CC spacebar and Color kit.
I filled the form at work and now that I am home I realize I just need the color kit. Thanks.
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:48:24
Hey everyone!
Was travelling last weekend, so am no able to reply to this thread.
The font/image that I will be using is as below, while the image I post up there is for color reference only...sorry for the confusion.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QsQkEAP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DflI9kt.jpg)
Great, look forward to these GH keycaps.
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 16 February 2017, 02:31:48
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 16 February 2017, 05:09:58
Please help me to add that to my order if you haven't done it yet.
Thanks!
p.s. Please think about some alternative key caps offer for us who are getting both the base and the addon kit, so that we can have the extra 2 Fn keys replaced by some other keys. ;)
Post by: smokemm on Thu, 16 February 2017, 14:32:54
If they have I have not received mine yet.
Post by: airs on Sat, 18 February 2017, 22:28:25
Can you fix please Kekkon?
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 19 February 2017, 08:56:27
On the invoice, as much as I hope to sent invoice out, my new Paypal is not ready yet and need some time to work it out. Please bear with me. :-X
I will PM @ideus later to get the ISO keys update, then only I will publish all changes to the keys, sorry for the delay.
p.s. Please think about some alternative key caps offer for us who are getting both the base and the addon kit, so that we can have the extra 2 Fn keys replaced by some other keys. ;)
Done adding, I am considering to add some keys on 1800 AddON kits to make them more attractive, and hopefully will help them reach the MOQ.
Have invoices been sent out yet?
If they have I have not received mine yet.
Not yet.
Looks like the orders document is wrong for mine - says 0 for x-CMYW and MG1 spacebars. I do want both of those though.
Can you fix please Kekkon?
Fixed.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 19 February 2017, 15:50:24
(http://i.imgur.com/MklK5mr.jpg)
Layout 1: It takes standard ANSI keys and only swaps the Enter for an ISO one and the backspace-pipe is relocated accordingly. It is compatible with full size keyboards that has the Esc key at the fuction row.
(http://i.imgur.com/WOujvdF.jpg)
Layout 2: With 1.25u left shift.
(http://i.imgur.com/GYkOpY1.jpg)
Layout 3: XT Layout. The Esc key replaces the standard ANSI position for the tilde. Appropiate for sixty percent keyboards.
(http://i.imgur.com/8T9AV6B.jpg)
An example of an UK international pack:
(http://i.imgur.com/wIz9WEf.png)
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 20 February 2017, 07:33:59
...p.s. Please think about some alternative key caps offer for us who are getting both the base and the addon kit, so that we can have the extra 2 Fn keys replaced by some other keys. ;)
Done adding, I am considering to add some keys on 1800 AddON kits to make them more attractive, and hopefully will help them reach the MOQ.
...
Thanks Kekkon!
I suggest including a 1u Backspace key at R1. This way, it is possible to have the Japanese ISO layout, like those in the HHKB JP and the Japanese RealForce keyboards.
(http://i.imgur.com/QltK1.jpg)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/u22nSPd.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa348/Crazy9000/P2040548.jpg)
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa348/Crazy9000/P2040548.jpg)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:08:11
I have made a mockup for the changes, please help me check if there are any mistakes.
As for the Paypal, it will be ready within this week.
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.
(http://i.imgur.com/4O99Fp4.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/djzS3M4.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZG4GwXb.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/djzS3M4.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZG4GwXb.png)
Post by: codedisorg on Mon, 20 February 2017, 09:30:19
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.
Is that supposed to be an R4 2u blank? If so, since it is the 2u shift on a Minila, any chance we could actually have a shift key instead of a blank like in Ivan's Odd Mods set?
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 20 February 2017, 10:02:45
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.
Is that supposed to be an R4 2u blank? If so, since it is the 2u shift on a Minila, any chance we could actually have a shift key instead of a blank like in Ivan's Odd Mods set?
Thanks for correcting... I think my memory serve me wrong. :-X
I need to ask if 2u and 3u is available @GMK. :))
(http://romly.com/blog_images/wasd_keyboards_1/Majestouch-MINILA-Air-Keycap-Sizes.jpg)
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 20 February 2017, 10:51:59
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.
Is that supposed to be an R4 2u blank? If so, since it is the 2u shift on a Minila, any chance we could actually have a shift key instead of a blank like in Ivan's Odd Mods set?
The suggestion was to have this R4 2u blank serves both in the Minila layout (as shift) and the Planck layout (and the spacebar).
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 20 February 2017, 11:40:49
Thanks to both ideus and menuhin for the suggestion. :thumb:
I have made a mockup for the changes, please help me check if there are any mistakes.
As for the Paypal, it will be ready within this week.
Changes :-
1. Dolch Icon Base: Added 2 keys to the ISO
2. Dolch 1800 AddOn: Added R1 1u Backspace, R4 2.75u blank
3. Dolch Color kits : Fixed both ANSI Enter and ISO Enter profile error.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4O99Fp4.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/djzS3M4.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZG4GwXb.png)
I'm an ISO user but I feel like the extra keys is just a waste of money as they are very specific and is catering to a few specific US-ANSI-based-layouts that are very rare.
But then again I don't really care about the legends personally, as they're going to be wrong for me anyway. I feel like the basic ISO UK keys (|\ and ~#) makes most sense though, as the ISO UK probably is the most common ISO layout which have the most of the alphas in common with the normal US-layout. Just my $0.02.
Other than that I approve of the additions.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:17:28
The purpose of the suggested keys are to allow and ANSI set to get an ISO Enter with no redundant legends. That may be called ISO-Compatibility. It is very important to differentiate between ISO-Compatibility and International-Adapters. The first is basically an ISO Enter and left shift, plus a couple of keys to fill the two additional spots available when using them. The second option comes at the cost of many more keys. As you rightfully stated, the UK layout is the closest to ANSI requiring six more keys over the ANSI standard, plus the enter and the short shift. The proposed keys do not replace any of the European locale Languages legends, because that is not the scope of those two additional keys. I am not sure about the demand for International kits, though. A previous Dolch offering included the UK legends side printed, that I personally do not like, but they are also a possibility.
I write in English and Spanish and many years ago, I realized that I will not get an Spanish Cherry set ever, unless I find an old keyboard in a recycling center. But, I will never ask an OP to produce Spanish dedicated keys, because I know that those keys will have no use but probably for a couple of fellows that need them. Therefore, I had decided that US International is my best choice, with it, I can take advantage of the new upcoming MX sets or even OG Cherry ANSI sets. But that is just me. It would be great to have enough demand for the many European locale legends though, but that is just not the case.
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:41:39
As I said, the legends doesn't matter that much to me. My point is that I feel like a R3 ~# key will be seen as more useful by more users than a R3 ~`, and that blank R4 have even less use and just add cost to a kit I otherwise find perfect as a base kit.
I will not comment more on the ISO keys because I feel like the ISO key "issues" have been overblown here lately and I don't feel like the issue warrants more discussion. In the end I'll probably buy a kit, or probably two (as long as there is an ISO enter and a short left shift). I just wanted to mention that I felt that the community using ISO layouts could be better served with another (smaller) selection of keys, which should result in a lower price for everyone.
Post by: Leska on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:09:09
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:22:42
This might be a stupid question, but im kinda new to the whole keyboard thing. I got a whitefox with ISO layout, and im really interrested in this set for my whitefox. But will this set fit my whitefox ? If i buy Dolch Icon and Dolch AddOn or do i need the cc spacebar pack aswell ?
You will need Dolch Icon, Spacebar and Dolch addon.
If you only take Dolch Icon you could also fill the entire keyboard, but your Del, Page up and Page Down key would not have the correct profile (meaning that if you look from the side their profile will not match with other keys in the same row)
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:30:21
This might be a stupid question, but im kinda new to the whole keyboard thing. I got a whitefox with ISO layout, and im really interrested in this set for my whitefox. But will this set fit my whitefox ? If i buy Dolch Icon and Dolch AddOn or do i need the cc spacebar pack aswell ?
You will need Dolch Icon, Spacebar and Dolch addon.
If you only take Dolch Icon you could also fill the entire keyboard, but your Del, Page up and Page Down key would not have the correct profile (meaning that if you look from the side their profile will not match with other keys in the same row)
I was just about the reply the same thing, but I forgot at first that the ISO Whitefox have 1u modifiers on the right side, so the DolchAddon is basically essential (although I guess you could use a fn and the two winkeys if you want).
Post by: Phenix on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:52:21
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 20 February 2017, 15:48:24
Please see below for some suggestions.
Base kit (presuming it is for Full size and TKL users):
- Remove
1.75u R4 Shift (this key is required by 3 major layouts in the Add-on kit)
1u R4 Fn (For HHKB)
1u R4 blank (see comments by ISO users, or replaced by one of the suggested NO/DE/SE/ES keys)
- Add
1.25u R4 Alt Gr
1u R1 Backspace (it is part of the ISO support)
NumLock LED cap
CapLock LED cap
CapLock stepped LED cap
ScrollLock LED cap
1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
- Add
2x 1.5u R4 "diamond" modifiers (for HHKB)
1u R2 Tab (for Planck)
1u R3 Esc (for Planck)
1u R4 Shift (for Planck)
1u R4 Return (for Planck)
2u R4 blank (for Planck, can be in grey or dark grey)
1u R2 Backspace (for Planck; although there is a R1 backspace in base kit ISO support, Planck top row starts from R2)
[For Planck's "Raise" and "Lower", users may use the two 1u R4 "diamond" modifiers]
2u R4 Shift (for Minila)
[3u R4 blank/spacebar (for Minila, does GMK have a 3u space bar??)]
(Or you may also consider adding the suggested LED caps of the Base kit here to the Add-on kit instead.)
Color kit:
- Remove
1u R1 Insert
- Add
1u R1 NumLock
1u R4 Raise (for Planck)
1u R4 Lower (for Planck)
2u R4 blank (for Planck)
[2x 1u R4 Windows key or your "diamond" key]
[2u R1 Backspace]
[1.5u R2 Backspace]
[1u R1 Backspace]
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:13:58
1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?
it's impossible to remove anything at this point...
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:18:53
(http://i.imgur.com/YjG6CtZ.jpg)
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:30:26
Post by: ideus on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:38:44
Do any of these come with an extra left shift key for fc660m compatibility?
The base set layout shows two 2.25u shift keys that cover your FC660M layout.
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 00:33:27
1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?
it's impossible to remove anything at this point...
this
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 21 February 2017, 06:02:29
1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?
it's impossible to remove anything at this point...
this
Yes, this is important. Big changes would reset the whole thing.
Also I don't think UK legends should be preferred on the extra 'ISO' keys. Just as ideus said, get US International users happy with many keyboard layouts, it's the most reasonable way forward.
I really hope this Addon kit makes it. Those keys are sorely missing in the Dolch world.
Post by: Phenix on Tue, 21 February 2017, 06:29:27
Post by: ideus on Tue, 21 February 2017, 07:39:22
Is there any chance at all to ONLY get the modifer keys? (I am ISO-DE so 60% will be laying around (+I am only after the mods, dont like the alpha color at all)
I may be interested in your alphas. PMed.
Post by: shensmobile on Tue, 21 February 2017, 12:16:08
For my order I originally requested the base kit and the color kit, as well as spacebars. Is it possible to remove my order for the color kit, and just go with the base kit and spacebars? I PM'd you, but I don't think my order has been changed yet in the spreadsheet. Let me know if that's doable!
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 21 February 2017, 12:37:43
1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?
it's impossible to remove anything at this point...
this
Yes, this is important. Big changes would reset the whole thing.
Also I don't think UK legends should be preferred on the extra 'ISO' keys. Just as ideus said, get US International users happy with many keyboard layouts, it's the most reasonable way forward.
I really hope this Addon kit makes it. Those keys are sorely missing in the Dolch world.
Fair enough.
It is a bit late to make changes to how keys should be relocated into which kits, it should be in the IC process.
However, it is still the time to add some keys, if still possible, to make the Dolch set and its kits more holistic. And mine are just suggestions as Kekkon is looking for ways to add some keys to these kits to make them look more appealing, to up current order number to meet the MOQ.
I hope most if not all of the kits can pass MOQ.
The Dolch caps has never got good layout supports for the community.
Post by: hyonglaw on Wed, 22 February 2017, 04:44:04
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 22 February 2017, 07:36:48
Hello I'd joined this GB right after it started, but I want to change my options now. Can I just cancel the previous order and make my orders again?
try to PM kekkon..
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Wed, 22 February 2017, 16:36:19
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 22 February 2017, 22:53:51
Hello I'd joined this GB right after it started, but I want to change my options now. Can I just cancel the previous order and make my orders again?
Submit a new order, and I will cancel the old one.
I am still working on the new keys, no keys will be removed as it is already too late.
Planck keys are also too much which will cost a bomb to the add on kits, and will become a burden for most of us.
Probably we can make a small kits just for planck at some point.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 23 February 2017, 03:11:41
1800/HHKB/68,75%/Minila/Planck (full support) Add-on kit:
- Remove
1.25u R4 Fn (already in the base kit)
1u R1 Backspace (already in the Base kit for ISO)
So... how about people who already had Dolch base set and didn't take base set from this GB? if they've joined to Add-on kit because of them and those keys get removed?
it's impossible to remove anything at this point...
Do you just need the Fn key?
PM-ing
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 23 February 2017, 07:14:58
The main post had been updated with latest order no, and the new Paypal is also ready for use, I expect to start invoicing on next Monday.
Hopefully by Sunday I will have time to update the keys.
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 26 February 2017, 07:15:29
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 26 February 2017, 20:18:13
So I think the best is we will get a dedicated GB for planck user near future to provide the keys. :thumb:
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:41:43
Changes on 3rd revision compared with 1st revision:-
- Dolch Icon
- Added 2 Iso Keys
- Added 1.25u Alt Gr
- Dolch Add-On Kits
- Added 1u Backspace
- Added 2u Shift
- Added 1.75u Control
- Added 2u Blank
- Dolch Color Kits
- Added Backspace(s) 1u, 1.5u, 2u
- Added NumLock
Expected Price Increased:
1. Dolch Icon -> $2.40
2. Dolch Add-On -> $3.50
3. Dolch Color Kits -> $4.00
** Please note that these are just my assumption, I will get the exact amount after I get the latest quote from GMK.
(http://i.imgur.com/JfYCcae.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8dkYXCf.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8dkYXCf.png)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 27 February 2017, 08:45:03
I will make a separate form for it. :))
(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 09:03:50
With the current surge on split space bar board kits you would like to consider offering some split space bars options in the space bar sets. It may attract some additional orders and it will make this the very first Dolch set with split space bars coverage.
I suggest you to change the thread name to [GB] GMK Icon Classic Dolch, x-CMYK & Split Space Bar Add-ons. Or to [GB] GMK Icon Classic Dolch & x-CMYK Add-on, that last, if the split space bars are not included. The Classic term to differentiate it from the other low contrast sets on offer now.
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.
Please compare this two, it seems to me that the first is more elegant, simple and graphically sound than the second.
(http://i.imgur.com/RTEA2Zy.jpg)
Down arrow.
(http://i.imgur.com/CuNxQHI.jpg)
Hand bag.
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 27 February 2017, 11:24:53
This GB is going to increase a lot the possibility of the Dolch set. :thumb:
I also second the suggestion of ideus about split space bar addition to boost sales, but I am not sure if it is possible to have the split space bars in real space bar profile or are just blanks in R4 profile.
For your information, two current IC/GBs (GMK HADapter kit Round 2 & GMK Yuri) have included a split space bar kit, and this is how they look like:
(http://i.imgur.com/mx9Fijm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/OC8HKy2.png)
For the Forum kit.
If I remember correctly, in the original request of the addition of Forum keys, we were not asking to add a forum kit but to have the forum keys replace the GMK and Q keys that exist in the current templates of both the base kit and the color kit.
I am sure 99.99% of the users will not use the GMK and Q keys - even if GMK gives us free of charge, and it's not like we don't like GMK as a company. It is okay to let us know if these two keys are in fact sponsored by GMK.
Please see if the two forum keys can replace the two GMK and Q keys in the base kit and the color kit.
We will all thank you for this. ;)
1.5u R4 Diamond keys for HHKB.
The diamond icons are the meta-key icons of HHKB and Sun MicroSystem keyboards, and addition of this design is feasible possibly in a lower cost because GMK has recently acquired this design also, i.e. it exists already as an R4 key:
More
(http://imgur.com/HNbqLUk.jpg)
There are quite some HHKB (or the layout) followings, and this addition will make the Add-on kit more complete and special for the HHKB users out there.
P.s. Ah.... can there be LED caps? How much will the inclusion of say 2 to 3 LED caps increase the cost of a kit?
Post by: soilheart on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:02:29
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.
I actually prefer the handbag over the down arrow... can't really say why though, I think I like the distinction from the shift key I guess...
(Although I totally can see what you mean with the simplicity of the down-arrow).
I am sure 99.99% of the users will not use the GMK and Q keys - even if GMK gives us free of charge, and it's not like we don't like GMK as a company. It is okay to let us know if these two keys are in fact sponsored by GMK.
The GMK and "Q" keys are free so they didn't add up in the cost. :D
I doubt GMK would replace those keys for free, as they basically included as "advertising". (And to be honest, I can actually see me using them, at least the Q key, I think it looks rather cool, but I understand that I'm probably in the minority.)
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:06:14
I disagree, it's ugly. I prefer symbol like the lock or as it is now.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:22:25
Edit: I will start using my hand bag's keys on all my boards to get accustomed to that "ugly" icon. Just in case. :p
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:07:14
While I cannot understand why someone does think that the down arrow is ugly as a caps lock icon, I fully respect the opinion. I support the right that the people, who have ordered the set as published, have to define if they want to keep it as advertised, originally. (I can use both, but I prefer the down arrow, it is a simple matter of taste).
Edit: I will start using my hand bag's keys on all my boards to get accustomed to that "ugly" icon. Just in case. :p
I understand where ideus' taste is coming from - the original Dolch PAC in ISO version:
(http://i.imgur.com/eAY8J.jpg)
ideus has a classic taste. :cool:
And I believe Kekkon's current design is also based on this icon-based ISO version of Dolch PAC.
While the handbag like Caps Lock icon looks cute to me and I am fine with it, it does not exist on the original ANSI version of Dolch either:
(http://i.imgur.com/QedS6.jpg)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:16:01
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.
sorry @ideus, but that's completely false!
The only layout using "down arrow" is the German one, all the remaining EU ISO layouts use the hangbag (which I personally prefer as well) or the full text capslock.
I've already clarified this doubt in the last @Wodan GB: https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:40:01
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.
sorry @ideus, but that's completely false!
The only layout using "down arrow" is the German one, all the remaining EU ISO layouts use the hangbag (which I personally prefer as well) or the full text capslock.
I've already clarified this doubt in the last @Wodan GB: https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058
Okay, I looked up another photo of Dolch PAC, and it is a non-German ISO version - a handbag style Caps Lock icon:
(http://s21.postimg.org/s2fgf6jgn/image.jpg)
So I believe the caps of ANSI version of Dolch PAC are more text-based, and those of the ISO versions are more icon-based.
Don't know and don't think ideus is German, but his taste seems to be.
After all both GMK and Cherry are from Germany. ;)
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 27 February 2017, 13:42:26
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:04:47
Furthermore, the down arrow for Caps lock is present on so many cheap Chinese keycaps that whenever I see it i tend to think it's cheap and ugly :)) :))
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:30:18
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.
sorry @ideus, but that's completely false!
The only layout using "down arrow" is the German one, all the remaining EU ISO layouts use the hangbag (which I personally prefer as well) or the full text capslock.
I've already clarified this doubt in the last @Wodan GB: https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058 (https://deskthority.net/help-f53/hadapter-kit-t13731-30.html#p307058)
Yeah, I agree, my bad. I made some research AFTER the comment, I came to the same conclusion: The arrow is a German thing, mainly.
I support the group decision for a hand bag. I really do not find it ugly, or anything close. Being an icon it goes well with the theme. :thumb:
Post by: Phenix on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:39:54
IMHO it just looka nicer, cleaner.
And it plays well with the shift-arrow
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:44:40
(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 14:51:11
Full icon modifiers, maybe?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)
Personally not a fan... :blank:
Post by: ideus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 15:21:22
Full icon modifiers, maybe?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)
Personally not a fan... :blank:
But, this set has icon already??
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 16:22:43
Full icon modifiers, maybe?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/paTTcKE.png)
Personally not a fan... :blank:
But, this set has icon already??
I mean not 100% all icon mods :)
Post by: poolside on Mon, 27 February 2017, 17:34:30
Update on kits, please leave down your feed backs.MoreChanges on 3rd revision compared with 1st revision:-
- Dolch Icon
- Added 2 Iso Keys
- Added 1.25u Alt Gr
- Dolch Add-On Kits
- Added 1u Backspace
- Added 2u Shift
- Added 1.75u Control
- Added 2u Blank
- Dolch Color Kits
- Added Backspace(s) 1u, 1.5u, 2u
- Added NumLock
Expected Price Increased:
1. Dolch Icon -> $2.40
2. Dolch Add-On -> $3.50
3. Dolch Color Kits -> $4.00
** Please note that these are just my assumption, I will get the exact amount after I get the latest quote from GMK.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JfYCcae.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gTUMUEd.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8dkYXCf.png)
Nice additions.
A few more ISO compatibility options. Thanks for including the keycaps suggested by ideus! :thumb: I must not forget to place my order.
Edit: An small detail, I suggest you to consider the down arrow instead of the hand bag for the caps lock, it goes far better in a full icon mod set than the hand bag. All the European OG Cherry sets featuring Icon only mods carries it instead of the hand bag.
Please compare this two, it seems to me that the first is more elegant, simple and graphically sound than the second.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RTEA2Zy.jpg)
Down arrow.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CuNxQHI.jpg)
Hand bag.
I like the two options. The down arrow being more uncommon has its charm. I have not developed a preference for one over the other yet, I guess.
MoreKudos to Kekkon for the additions, it keeps on improving.
This GB is going to increase a lot the possibility of the Dolch set. :thumb:
I also second the suggestion of ideus about split space bar addition to boost sales, but I am not sure if it is possible to have the split space bars in real space bar profile or are just blanks in R4 profile.
For your information, two current IC/GBs (GMK HADapter kit Round 2 & GMK Yuri) have included a split space bar kit, and this is how they look like:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mx9Fijm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/OC8HKy2.png)
For the Forum kit.
If I remember correctly, in the original request of the addition of Forum keys, we were not asking to add a forum kit but to have the forum keys replace the GMK and Q keys that exist in the current templates of both the base kit and the color kit.
I am sure 99.99% of the users will not use the GMK and Q keys - even if GMK gives us free of charge, and it's not like we don't like GMK as a company. It is okay to let us know if these two keys are in fact sponsored by GMK.
Please see if the two forum keys can replace the two GMK and Q keys in the base kit and the color kit.
We will all thank you for this. ;)
1.5u R4 Diamond keys for HHKB.
The diamond icons are the meta-key icons of HHKB and Sun MicroSystem keyboards, and addition of this design is feasible possibly in a lower cost because GMK has recently acquired this design also, i.e. it exists already as an R4 key:MoreShow Image(http://imgur.com/HNbqLUk.jpg)
There are quite some HHKB (or the layout) followings, and this addition will make the Add-on kit more complete and special for the HHKB users out there.
P.s. Ah.... can there be LED caps? How much will the inclusion of say 2 to 3 LED caps increase the cost of a kit?
Some of these diamonds keycaps would be great. I think they would be a pretty replacement to those, which look like Windows 8/10 keycaps too much:
[attachimg=1]
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 01 March 2017, 02:09:26
As for the split spacebar kits, I think we should wait for the new GMK mold to come out and see what they are going to offer, because those are real "spacebars" profile, unlike current one which is in "shift" shape.
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 01 March 2017, 04:23:17
Post by: ideus on Wed, 01 March 2017, 05:42:35
Thanks for all the input, I have made a final adjustment to the Add-On Kits. These will be finalize and I will get quote from GMK, expect invoicing to begin soon. :thumb:
As for the split spacebar kits, I think we should wait for the new GMK mold to come out and see what they are going to offer, because those are real "spacebars" profile, unlike current one which is in "shift" shape.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
I concur that actual space bars are required not blank shift keys.
Is the GB original dead line the same? Current OP's date is March 10.
What would be the payment period? Current OP's date is March 10 - 24.
Are original dates still firm? If not, please update the OP accordingly.
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 01 March 2017, 06:01:54
Post by: mniels on Wed, 01 March 2017, 06:15:16
Post by: soilheart on Wed, 01 March 2017, 07:07:23
Is there a spreadsheet anywhere to doublecheck our orders. I apologize in advance if I am blind and missed the link.... :eek:
Well, the first "reply" seems to be what you're after =P
Please verify if your order information is correct : Check your entry here. (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)
Post by: mniels on Wed, 01 March 2017, 07:08:24
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Post by: poolside on Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:19:52
Thanks for all the input, I have made a final adjustment to the Add-On Kits. These will be finalize and I will get quote from GMK, expect invoicing to begin soon. :thumb:
As for the split spacebar kits, I think we should wait for the new GMK mold to come out and see what they are going to offer, because those are real "spacebars" profile, unlike current one which is in "shift" shape.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Shiny diamonds! I hope the add-on and color kits will both reach MOQ.
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 02 March 2017, 03:05:23
On Forum kits, it will be around $11. Initially I have been wanted to fit them into the Icon and Color kits respectively, but not everyone buy them so I think it is best for us to keep them separate.
I will make a separate form for it. :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ClNvz0n.png)
Where is the order form for the forum keycaps?
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 02 March 2017, 21:02:12
I have also updated the latest count, it seems the base has already made it, while other are not far behind, hopefully they will be 80% paid invoices. :thumb:
Post by: romevi on Fri, 03 March 2017, 13:00:26
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 03 March 2017, 14:26:50
If I want to change my order or add something to the order, do I post it here or can I just PM you?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 04 March 2017, 10:36:26
Is there a spreadsheet anywhere to doublecheck our orders. I apologize in advance if I am blind and missed the link.... :o
Well, the first "reply" seems to be what you're after =PPlease verify if your order information is correct : Check your entry here. (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)
Is the table updated? It shows 102 orders for the base set, only.
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:35:39
@kekkon
If I want to change my order or add something to the order, do I post it here or can I just PM you?
Same question here as well.
Post by: longtran1568 on Sat, 04 March 2017, 12:41:58
@kekkon
If I want to change my order or add something to the order, do I post it here or can I just PM you?
Same question here as well.
I PM him about modifying my order too, and every thing turned out fine, so you guys could just drop him a message :)
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 05 March 2017, 11:39:39
Post by: lunr on Sun, 05 March 2017, 19:45:47
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 05 March 2017, 22:10:39
I am still waiting for GMK on the latest quotation, hope to get it soon. Since the invoicing only started this week, the GB closing date will be extend 1 or 2 more weeks depend on the payments.
Regarding the MOQ, it is actually combination on both GH and Taobao orders.
Post by: gojira54 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 01:36:43
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 06 March 2017, 02:28:27
I have PMd you requesting to add 1x CMYW pack but haven't heard back? Would like to add it pls =]
check the spreadsheet
kekkon didnt reply, but he updated the spreadsheet with my order
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 06 March 2017, 03:31:37
No bar on the numpad 5?
Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?
Post by: romevi on Mon, 06 March 2017, 10:30:53
No bar on the numpad 5?
Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?
Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes. It wouldn't add much and will let people know the set is made with modern layouts in mind, since the "Q" layout is a modern logo.
A modern logo for a modern design.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 06 March 2017, 11:35:57
Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes.I wouldn't mind winkeys with the Q logo, granted that they are 1u R5 of course.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 06 March 2017, 15:08:10
Post by: kmba on Mon, 06 March 2017, 23:54:43
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 07 March 2017, 05:03:33
No bar on the numpad 5?
Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?
Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes. It wouldn't add much and will let people know the set is made with modern layouts in mind, since the "Q" layout is a modern logo.
A modern logo for a modern design.
You can have how many Qs you want, but they need to have an homing bar.
Modern homing bars for a modern design, that bars ancient dots and scoops on new homing concepts.
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 07 March 2017, 08:57:11
I have actually done the "Q" in R4 before this, but it is better in R1 as Esc :p
(http://i.imgur.com/7buXmbG.jpg)
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:01:00
how close is the color kit to MOQ?
I would say it was very close, let's see what is the outcome when the invoicing begin. :)
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:15:33
Post by: romevi on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:19:45
No bar on the numpad 5?
Can't we replace the uniqey Q with the 5 with an homing bar?
Actually, I think it would be best to add more GMK "Q" logos in different sizes. It wouldn't add much and will let people know the set is made with modern layouts in mind, since the "Q" layout is a modern logo.
A modern logo for a modern design.
You can have how many Qs you want, but they need to have an homing bar.
Modern homing bars for a modern design, that bars ancient dots and scoops on new homing concepts.
You're right. :eek:
Post by: need on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:40:33
Post by: ideus on Tue, 07 March 2017, 12:43:20
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:00:19
Let's put in a cherry logo to replace one of the QQQQQ
We can't use the new GMK Cherry Logo anymore, other than one specific company.
Post by: YH YOON on Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:22:17
Post by: romevi on Tue, 07 March 2017, 20:39:25
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 08:21:11
A separate form had been made for the Forum Kits, it will be billed separately. :p
https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2 (https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2)
The front page and order has also been updated with latest price change, and currency change, which result in price reducing/small price increase for all the sets. :thumb:
Post by: need on Wed, 08 March 2017, 08:54:12
(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Post by: diiiP on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:07:52
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
First post and order form shows this:
(http://i.imgur.com/Tkj90fY.png)
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:11:02
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Yeap, this is the one. Do you mean it is too expensive? :-X
...
This is the old 3D rendering, newer one will be updated after this.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:15:46
I have got the latest price, will send out invoice batch by batch this week. :p
A separate form had been made for the Forum Kits, it will be billed separately. :p
https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2 (https://goo.gl/forms/NdetA8YfIiWjOqWl2)
The front page and order has also been updated with latest price change, and currency change, which result in price reducing/small price increase for all the sets. :thumb:
I´d like to get my invoice as soon as possible. I know that I ordered late, though, exchanges rates fluctuate a lot where I live.
Post by: need on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:31:00
Wait, so is this the add-on kit? I'd be surprised if this costs $40.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2TfwM8Y.png)
Yeap, this is the one. Do you mean it is too expensive? :-X
Sorry I was just surprised there's no price increase after having the added support for 68, 75%, Minila. It's still $40 right?
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:34:41
Sorry I was just surprised there's no price increase after having the added support for 68, 75%, Minila. It's still $40 right?
There are actually $2~$3 price increase. :))
Post by: t0rk on Wed, 08 March 2017, 10:40:46
Post by: KHAANNN on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:09:45
Post by: ideus on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:11:29
Not having a paypal stings, that 1.75 Stepped Ctrl is a must have
+1
That key is one of the reasons I am buying this.
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:19:50
Post by: fublamchu on Wed, 08 March 2017, 13:50:39
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Post by: kekkon on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:17:35
Is there an estimate as to what shipping would be for South Korea?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Around $25 for base only using HK Post IINM.
I have started to send out the invoice, currently reach #34 and seems Paypal won't let me send anymore by constantly give me error, I will try again later.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:18:44
Gotta say I was somewhat alarmed when I received an invoice for around $1700 haha
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 09 March 2017, 07:21:57
Paid =]
Gotta say I was somewhat alarmed when I received an invoice for around $1700 haha
I also shocked when I saw the "$" symbol, which is actually HKD, no idea why Paypal use "$" for it. :))
Post by: hoanglh94 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:04:49
Post by: myjoey88 on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:08:19
Please mail to school@tncp.co.kr. :confused:
Post by: calavera on Thu, 09 March 2017, 21:21:44
EDIT: I would like to make change to my order if possible. Please let me know how
Post by: mindxthinker on Thu, 09 March 2017, 22:13:17
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 09 March 2017, 23:53:18
Post by: gojira54 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 00:35:43
Post by: dadoduk on Fri, 10 March 2017, 02:14:20
Thank your GB!!
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 March 2017, 06:29:36
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 10 March 2017, 07:26:22
(http://i.imgur.com/IRLkXTV.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 March 2017, 07:40:12
just noticed an error on GMK render... on the 1.25u mods there should be and Alt + Altgr (the Alt is repeated), as it's on the 1.5u ones bellow ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IRLkXTV.jpg)
Good catch, but it may be intentional. The 1.25 mods may be targeted for US users, while the 1.5 may be designed for the rest of us. I really use the Alt Gr in all my setups, with either mod sizes, because I use the US International layout, to write in non-English languages, but it may be just intentional. If not, I suggest to include the AltGr instead of the Alt, but I am sure many US users may raise their voices against it. I really do not see it as a big deal, the Alt key is perfectly fine, we US-Int users always know that right Alt is actually AltGr.
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 10 March 2017, 07:42:38
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 March 2017, 08:12:29
that doesn't make sense, there will be many US users using the 1.5u mods as well. AltGr on the right is the only way to go! ;)
Both Alt Gr sizes are included in the base set, just double check the last version of the set's layout. Everybody is happy.
Post by: airs on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:52:17
Post by: t0rk on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:55:09
Did we hit MoQ for all kits? My invoice has them all on there.
Which kits did you order?
Post by: airs on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:55:56
Did we hit MoQ for all kits? My invoice has them all on there.
Which kits did you order?
Alllllllllllllll of the kits!
Post by: kekstee on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:24:58
Paid. :)
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:34:58
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 March 2017, 18:37:10
I haven't got my invoice yet?I think he mentioned he's at around #40.
I didn't see it before, but there's a link on the second post of this page. If you click on it you should see what # in line you are.
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:06:53
While I was invoicing, I also added some CC spacebars to those who have ordered Base but not spacebars, or ordered 2 but only take 1, maybe I am wrong with that assumption, if you have any problem with that, please send me a PM so I can change them accordingly.
Post by: airs on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:39:49
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:51:43
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?
If >80% of GHer paid their invoices, I am sure all kits can hit MOQ,except for CMYW which are now around 30sets away.
Post by: baphotmet on Fri, 10 March 2017, 23:01:48
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?
If >80% of GHer paid their invoices, I am sure all kits can hit MOQ,except for CMYW which are now around 30sets away.
If the CMYW can not hit MOQ and I paid for it, can I get CMYW refund?
Because I got the invoice, the CMYW is in the invoice now.
BTW, the shipping is not included in the invoice, is that correct?
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 10 March 2017, 23:45:34
Kekkon, did all sets hit MoQ?
If >80% of GHer paid their invoices, I am sure all kits can hit MOQ,except for CMYW which are now around 30sets away.
If the CMYW can not hit MOQ and I paid for it, can I get CMYW refund?
Because I got the invoice, the CMYW is in the invoice now.
BTW, the shipping is not included in the invoice, is that correct?
shipping is charged when kekkon receives the sets and packs them all
Post by: Weiss on Sat, 11 March 2017, 05:11:44
Just wanted to check in before I pay up.
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 11 March 2017, 05:29:05
Are the Forum Kits not included in the initial invoice? I'm 100% sure I filled out the Forum Kits form, but don't have it on my invoice.
Just wanted to check in before I pay up.
I need an updated invoice for the forum kit too.
Post by: airs on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:34:44
Post by: youbals on Sat, 11 March 2017, 11:51:06
As I recently heard this GB, and placed my order here today. (thru here : DOLCH DOLCH DOLCH - ORDER HERE)
Really hopefully wanna join this GB, please let me know how to do payment.
Regards
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 11 March 2017, 11:54:23
Post by: autobot on Sat, 11 March 2017, 14:21:34
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 11 March 2017, 14:27:45
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Sat, 11 March 2017, 14:43:36
Post by: longtran1568 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 15:20:10
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 11 March 2017, 21:09:25
1. The Forum Kits will be in a separate invoices because it is added so late, and I think not everyone like it. Will have to wait a few more days to see how it goes.
2. The TU2/Cyan spacebars are only for invoices up to #5x because of the limited stock, and the total no. of orders only around 80, so I won't place a new order with GMK, sorry for this.
3. As for CMYW, if in the end we can get around 130~140 orders, I will make it tips.
4. The paypal is giving me weird error since the beginning, and I am yet to received any reply from Paypal suppport, will have to wait till Monday I guess. The invoicing progress is already 60% and I expect to finish them in a days or two.
Post by: PandaRooooong on Sun, 12 March 2017, 05:49:16
I had order a Dolch Icon & CC Spacebars and paid (2 items price) today.
But the order detail is just Dolch Icon.
It's that something wrong?
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 12 March 2017, 06:21:21
Hi
I had order a Dolch Icon & CC Spacebars and paid (2 items price) today.
But the order detail is just Dolch Icon.
It's that something wrong?
I can see the info at my side is Icon & CC Space bars
Post by: PandaRooooong on Sun, 12 March 2017, 07:17:31
um.....Hi
I had order a Dolch Icon & CC Spacebars and paid (2 items price) today.
But the order detail is just Dolch Icon.
It's that something wrong?
I can see the info at my side is Icon & CC Space bars
But it still no CC Space bars in the order detail :confused:
(http://i.imgur.com/s1PjvJb.png)
Anway, the order should be 1 set keycap (including spacebar) and no extra spacebar.
If the order is right in your info, ignore this post
Thanks :thumb:
Post by: calavera on Sun, 12 March 2017, 09:12:18
Post by: bassguy on Sun, 12 March 2017, 12:57:41
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:08:27
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:22:29
Post by: toasters09 on Sun, 12 March 2017, 20:24:12
Post by: shawn o on Sun, 12 March 2017, 20:31:44
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 12 March 2017, 20:41:37
It says that I was sent an invoice but I don't see it in my paypal. Can I double check the email address I put on the form? I think I might have misspelled it.
Shoot me a PM if you still not received it.
Since the layout is pretty much fixed, I will get a new 3D render from my friend and update them on the front page, for now I will replace them with KLE version first. :))
Paypal has also been nice to me this morning, I have been able to send out most of the invoice up to 177, sorry for 178 and 181..you'll need to wait until night where the error count reset again. :))
I will begin to compile the response sheet later.
Post by: jdos on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:00:35
Please check it and msg me which option is available to order or not.
Post by: brizzzle on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:48:34
Sent from my Oneplus using Tapatalk
Post by: lunr on Sun, 12 March 2017, 22:06:25
Post by: pheneto on Mon, 13 March 2017, 02:06:35
Complete payment.
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 13 March 2017, 08:10:27
Post by: -musubi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 12:30:10
Post by: Weiss on Mon, 13 March 2017, 20:31:45
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:04:22
Just checking, last day to pay is the 24th yes?
For now, yes...it all depend on the progress. :P
Post by: palindrome on Tue, 14 March 2017, 00:01:44
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 14 March 2017, 07:46:39
Post by: USER9127 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 08:42:26
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:20:35
Thanks for those who have paid so far. :thumb:
I need to say sorry because I think I just screw up by Paypal Fees. Since the total number of paid invoices reach 100, I thought it might be a good time to start doing some calculation and get ready for GMK invoices, then I realize the amount I received are lesser than I thought. The amount range as small as HKD 2(±USD 0.30) to ±HKD 25($3.30)
After some calculation, I think the Paypal fees charges on me is 4.4% instead of 3.9%.
(I use 4.1% in my invoice base on this calculation: 1/(1-0.039)=1.041
So to get the exact amount I need, I actually need to set the fees to: 1/(1-0.044)=1.046
)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ih5P324.png)
For now, I am currently around HKD1000(±$130.00) short. :-X
I will start to modify unpaid invoices to the newer rate, and still thinking on how to get the shortage cover for now.
For those who has already paid, I will collect the different along with the shipping when the caps arrived.
I am really sorry for this to happen, if you would like a refund I can understand, just shoot me a PM for this.
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:23:16
Hi everyone,
Thanks for those who have paid so far. :thumb:
I need to say sorry because I think I just screw up by Paypal Fees. Since the total number of paid invoices reach 100, I thought it might be a good time to start doing some calculation and get ready for GMK invoices, then only I realize the amount I received are lesser than I thought. The amount range as small as HKD 2(±USD 0.30) to ±HKD 25($3.30)
After some calculation, I think the Paypal fees charges on me is 4.4% instead of 3.9%.
(I use 4.1% in my invoice base on this calculation: 1/(1-0.039)=1.041
So to get the exact amount I need, I actually need to set the fees to: 1/(1-0.044)=1.046
)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ih5P324.png)
For now, I am currently around HKD1000(±$130.00) short. :-X
I will start to modify unpaid invoices to the newer rate, and still thinking on how to get the shortage cover for now.
For those who has already paid, I will collect the different along with the shipping when the caps arrived.
I am really sorry for this to happen, if you would like a refund I can understand, just shoot me a PM for this.
No worries bro~~
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:24:17
I know this is past closing, but it states 188/200. Does that mean it will continue till the limit is reached? Is this GB still open?
Nope, it just mean the no. pass the MOQ 150, we are still open for orders.
** I started to modify 4 invoices...and there are 60 more to go...at this point, I think I am going to give up modifying the rest of it and decide to collect them afterwards... :-X
Post by: romevi on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:25:05
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:27:52
The original invoice doesn't include shipping charges?
The shipping will only be charge after we get the keys.
No worries bro~~
Thanks bro.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 14 March 2017, 09:29:34
The original invoice doesn't include shipping charges?
The shipping will only be charge after we get the keys.No worries bro~~
Thanks bro.
Ah, okay. Well, you can just add the extra fee to mine when you invoice for shipping.
Post by: gandroider on Tue, 14 March 2017, 21:01:54
I still haven't received my invoice. Please re-check your PP and kindly invoice me as I've mentioned on Sunday by PM.
Thank you.
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 14 March 2017, 21:35:05
Hi kekkon,
I still haven't received my invoice. Please re-check your PP and kindly invoice me as I've mentioned on Sunday by PM.
Thank you.
Resend, I think I misread the "-" and "." in between your email address. :-X
Post by: toasters09 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 22:25:17
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 15 March 2017, 04:23:54
Since the GB is closed, would CMYW not reach MOQ because I was reading the forum and you said it needs around 130-140 but right now we only have 80 (from the spreadsheet) so would the GB for that not happen?
Aside from GH, we also have gathered orders from China. x-CMYW is now ±143 sets total orders, we'll only know the exact figure after the due date to see how many actually paid for them.
I also edit the GB Timeline to proper one which reflect the current situation, since we just start the invoicing progress, I am going to extend the GB and payment stage to next week. Hopefully this can help them to recover their pocket. :p
Post by: ash152152 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 05:49:42
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 15 March 2017, 05:53:49
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
I think most of the keys fit~
(http://cdn.matt3o.com/uploads/2016/01/whitefox-all-layouts.jpg)
Credit to matt3o for the picture.
Post by: airs on Wed, 15 March 2017, 12:21:19
Post by: ideus on Wed, 15 March 2017, 12:35:43
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
Post by: ATXTider on Wed, 15 March 2017, 13:47:35
Post by: Hanni on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:00:27
Post by: ash152152 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 23:11:00
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
The one I have is Aria layout
(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 16 March 2017, 00:57:26
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
The one I have is Aria layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)
All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.
Post by: codedisorg on Thu, 16 March 2017, 01:14:41
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
The one I have is Aria layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)
All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.
Originative's sets tend to have that since it's also on the TADA. Skeletor, Keyboard & Co., & Sky Dolch v2 have it for sure. Unsure if GMK Originative has it. Could dig out my tray but I'm lazy. I remapped the right column on mine to ~, pg up, pg dn, and fn which is much much more common.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 16 March 2017, 01:36:52
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
The one I have is Aria layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)
All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.
Originative's sets tend to have that since it's also on the TADA. Skeletor, Keyboard & Co., & Sky Dolch v2 have it for sure. Unsure if GMK Originative has it. Could dig out my tray but I'm lazy. I remapped the right column on mine to ~, pg up, pg dn, and fn which is much much more common.
Agree with you that the WhiteFox layout on that column is quite non-layout: how does the WhiteFox handle the Fn key on these layouts by the way?
For 75% it's also usually R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn. And on a 60%, the key right to the 1.75u R_Shift is usually a Fn key.
Post by: codedisorg on Thu, 16 March 2017, 10:03:23
does this set fit my WhiteFox keyboard?
sorry for noob question because this is my first to buy a keyset.
If you post an image of your particular layout I can verify it for you. WF has more than one layout.
The one I have is Aria layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/2uIhowb.png)
All the keys required to populate the Aria layout are included in the base set; but, the Page Up and Page Down profiles in the Aria are not standard. It takes row 3 and 4 respectively, while the standard are row 1 and 2. The 1800 style, included in the add on set, are 2 and 3. Thus, non of them fit the Aria. I think no set has them in the proper profile to fit the Aria. Maybe some one may enlighten us on a set that carries such keys, if there is any.
Originative's sets tend to have that since it's also on the TADA. Skeletor, Keyboard & Co., & Sky Dolch v2 have it for sure. Unsure if GMK Originative has it. Could dig out my tray but I'm lazy. I remapped the right column on mine to ~, pg up, pg dn, and fn which is much much more common.
Agree with you that the WhiteFox layout on that column is quite non-layout: how does the WhiteFox handle the Fn key on these layouts by the way?
For 75% it's also usually R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn. And on a 60%, the key right to the 1.75u R_Shift is usually a Fn key.
I never used my default caps but I know it comes with a 1u R4 Fn. My guess is that the default layouts are a single layer. If you want more, you can configure them and it is up to you where you place the key.
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 04:52:44
In the mean time I will get contact with GMK to get 2 forum keys without additional charges, if we can place order with MOQ 150 for 3 kits(Base, AddOn and Color).
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 17 March 2017, 05:26:41
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:07:26
Due on receipt
What the? LOL. Can you e-mail me? bmilcs@yahoo.com
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:13:21
Attack GMK sent you an invoice for $1,320.42 HKD
Due on receipt
What the? LOL. Can you e-mail me? bmilcs@yahoo.com
You can still pay the invoice.
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:14:13
What about x-cmyw? Are they gonna make it?
They are now 120/150, and with around 30 invoice not yet paid..We'll find some way to make it tip since it's already 120.
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 17 March 2017, 07:08:12
Attack GMK sent you an invoice for $1,320.42 HKD
Due on receipt
What the? LOL. Can you e-mail me? bmilcs@yahoo.com
I had the same reaction when I saw the invoice formatted with a US dollar sign and in HKD, but it's roughly $170 USD /w conversion.
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 17 March 2017, 08:47:49
What about x-cmyw? Are they gonna make it?
They are now 120/150, and with around 30 invoice not yet paid..We'll find some way to make it tip since it's already 120.
Kekkon, I would love to help and buy 2 sets of x-CMYW. But I already paid for base and other kits...is it possible to send me additional inovice? or should I make new order for x-CMYW?
Post by: iArson on Fri, 17 March 2017, 10:21:44
Post by: kiettv12 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:37:47
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:44:01
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.
Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
Post by: kiettv12 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:21:18
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.
Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:24:07
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.
Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3
You have to wait 2 years for duck viper v3...
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:24:46
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.
Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3
That´s another thing! "Tour: a journey for pleasure in which several different places are visited."
Post by: kiettv12 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 13:26:46
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.
Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3
That´s another thing! "Tour: a journey for pleasure in which several different places are visited."
Thank you for correcting me i not good at english
But i will be vsiting someplace in us not for fun though
Post by: ideus on Fri, 17 March 2017, 18:01:35
is the group buy still open? i see period is 24 march
will you ship to vietnam? estimate cost high though ?
and estimate shipping to usa ? i will be on a tour to usa in the summer not sure when though
You should contact Kekkon, he is a very approachable individual that is willing to help.
Regarding shipping you should consider that ETA will depend on a lot of issues beyond the control of the GB leader, so expecting him to actually be able to synchronize the delivery with you travel schedule is just too insane. Instead, you shall provide an address where the package can be surely delivered at any time and where you can pick it up, at your convenience.
I will be in the us for atleast 4 5 months its more like a business trip, i have family in us or vietnam 2 address can be use even im not in the country, i want save some $ for duck viper v3
That´s another thing! "Tour: a journey for pleasure in which several different places are visited."
Thank you for correcting me i not good at english
But i will be vsiting someplace in us not for fun though
Your English is good, I was not correcting you, just clarifying the reason for my remark.
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:45:02
With the current situation, I think I am gonna stop dragging the GB to the end of the week, instead, I will bring the dateline earlier to this Wednesday, which is March 22.
If you have problem paying the invoice before this date, please PM me and I will reserve the spot for you, else the invoice will be cancel.
Thanks for the support and make this happen. :thumb:
**The x-CMYW will tip.
***I have sent a reminder to all unpaid invoices, if you don't feel like joining anymore, please cancel it.
Post by: Jumie on Sun, 19 March 2017, 20:49:04
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 20 March 2017, 03:20:25
**The x-CMYW will tip.
woot! :thumb:
Post by: gandroider on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:02:20
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:07:26
Post by: gt1989 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:26:06
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.Same thing with mine.
Post by: gt1989 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 10:22:20
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Post by: kekkon on Mon, 20 March 2017, 10:24:01
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.
Kekkon, PM sent. My invoice isn't right.Same thing with mine.
Replied
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:55:17
Post by: iArson on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:32:09
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Post by: kekkon on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:25:35
Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.
Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday. :thumb:
Post by: palindrome on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:44:02
Post by: wangbwhz on Tue, 21 March 2017, 23:48:14
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...
Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.
Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday. :thumb:
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 22 March 2017, 05:36:20
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.
...
Wow, the GMK caps in all those GB do occupy lots of space. :p
Good luck for the move!
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 22 March 2017, 08:38:33
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...
Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.
Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday. :thumb:
The form closed? I was hoping to put in my order today, since it's the deadline...
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:08:18
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...
Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.
Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday. :thumb:
The form closed? I was hoping to put in my order today, since it's the deadline...
I didn't expect such late entry...Send me a PM with your order details. :)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:59:23
Hi everyone, sorry for MIA oneday cause I am moving to a new house.Lol.. I thought end of 22th is the deadline...
Most of the unpaid invoice has been cancelled other than those who place order last 2 days.
Me and my friend will begin compile all these orders and submit to GMK asking for invoice on Friday. :thumb:
The form closed? I was hoping to put in my order today, since it's the deadline...
I didn't expect such late entry...Send me a PM with your order details. :)
Thank you so much for letting me enter late, PMing.
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 23 March 2017, 12:57:13
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:23:06
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P
What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 26 March 2017, 23:25:56
Post by: kmba on Mon, 27 March 2017, 00:51:45
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P
What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.
really want to grab these but the history of replacement topre stems is pretty piss poor. Is there any evidence that the remade jtk stems are really nice?
Post by: neon_tom on Mon, 27 March 2017, 06:45:45
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P
What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.
really want to grab these but the history of replacement topre stems is pretty piss poor. Is there any evidence that the remade jtk stems are really nice?
People are reporting receiving them on the JTK Sophomore thread. Best to keep an eye out there to see.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 27 March 2017, 12:33:59
Man, now I gotta get my hands on some Novatouch stems ;P. Any sellers? :P
What about the JTK sliders? Those are shipping out to folks soon and I think there's still some available (and some retailers will have them, like Originative). Check the JTK Sophomore thread.
really want to grab these but the history of replacement topre stems is pretty piss poor. Is there any evidence that the remade jtk stems are really nice?
Here's a review: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/61rhwd/review_jtk_sliders_from_taobao/
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:26:54
Just an update, I have just sent the final order quantity to GMK and asking for invoice. We took some time to settle orders from other place...hopefully we can get the invoice next week and start making payment early april.
Post by: r5d on Thu, 30 March 2017, 03:18:08
Hi guys,
Just an update, I have just sent the final order quantity to GMK and asking for invoice. We took some time to settle orders from other place...hopefully we can get the invoice next week and start making payment early april.
Great! Excited for this set! :thumb:
Post by: jonovann on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:05:01
Post by: ideus on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:07:13
is there any possible way for me to still get in on this?
You should PM Kekkon, there may be some chance if the order has not been filed yet.
Post by: jonovann on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:19:20
is there any possible way for me to still get in on this?
You should PM Kekkon, there may be some chance if the order has not been filed yet.
Just did thanks for the info!
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:09:23
:)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:10:42
Just a quick update, we have yet to receive invoice from GMK, seems they are pretty busy recently, hopefully we can received it by next week.
:)
:thumb:
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:10:46
Just a quick update, we have yet to receive invoice from GMK, seems they are pretty busy recently, hopefully we can received it by next week.
:)
Thank you for the update.
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 06 April 2017, 22:57:46
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 16 April 2017, 21:42:49
(http://i.imgur.com/CvGpPF1.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/73BiSTi.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Df5NSId.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/LD8zGAZ.png)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 16 April 2017, 22:11:46
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 16 April 2017, 22:43:14
Post by: palindrome on Mon, 17 April 2017, 02:37:49
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 17 April 2017, 06:36:39
(http://i.imgur.com/tJxER4u.png)
do you know if it will be the same or not?
(also noted that cyan ansi enter have a shorter arrow and x-CMYW kit have blue TU1 insted on cyan (TU2) on Control caps, as well as N6 yellow instead of normal CV on Alts)
Post by: poolside on Mon, 17 April 2017, 07:15:48
I have just received latest rendering from GMK, the quotation will take longer time than expected since the PIC is currently on leave till 21th.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CvGpPF1.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/73BiSTi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Df5NSId.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LD8zGAZ.png)
Thanks.
It seems like the 1.5u diamonds did not make it. :'(
I also noticed that the "burger" menu icon from the base set render is different from the icon used in the x-CMYW accent kit:
New:[attach=1]
"Old":[attach=2]
(Edit: These icons were grabbed from the GMK renders.)
I have never seen it before.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 April 2017, 08:44:56
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 17 April 2017, 09:22:57
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 April 2017, 10:20:02
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 17 April 2017, 10:39:09
Post by: ideus on Mon, 17 April 2017, 11:35:51
AFAIK @matt3o himself shared the official DT designs for the Wodan HADapter GB, so I don't think there will be any problem to use it, as GMK already have it in their possession.
That means it is all up to the OP to choose the logo for the set. Being in Dolch color I think it would be great to have the original one. Still, the proposed one looks good but a bit less authentic. More like regular letters than a logo.
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 17 April 2017, 12:48:02
Sharp observation by poolside:
I really hope the 1.5u diamonds are there for the HHKB support.
I hope that is just a mistake mixing up different versions of renders.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:45:08
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 18 April 2017, 20:57:20
Thanks for correcting, I also notice the 2x 1.5u diamond are missing.
As for the DT, I am not sure why GMK come out with this variant, cause I had attach the HADapter picture in my email.
I am waiting for GMK to reply on these matters.
** CMYW also got the wrong color code for Cyan Color. :))
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 18 April 2017, 21:22:57
...
as well as N6 yellow instead of normal CV on Alts)
I have seen CV and N6, and I personally like N6 more, so I have chose N6 for these GB.
Post by: smokemm on Wed, 19 April 2017, 00:34:26
Post by: PoisonKing on Wed, 19 April 2017, 01:48:27
** CMYW also got the wrong color code for Cyan Color. :))
Phew... thank goodness for that. I thought the actual color would be TU1 :eek:
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 19 April 2017, 05:27:54
I have seen CV and N6, and I personally like N6 more, so I have chose N6 for these GB.
then you shouldn't call it CMYW, because the colors do not apply. (N6 yellow is much more oranged)
CMY always was TU2/MG1/CV in all groupbuys so far.
IIRC only paid members of the DT Club are allowed to use the official DT logo? Can someone confirm this?
nops, I've already contacted @matt3o today and he said we can do it without any problem ;)
Post by: romevi on Wed, 19 April 2017, 21:06:16
Post by: jacky on Wed, 19 April 2017, 23:08:42
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sat, 22 April 2017, 03:50:43
is there a chance to order two x-CMYW Addons with shipping to germany?
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 11:14:02
Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 23 April 2017, 12:06:42
no answer :-/
You're probably not getting an answer because the GB has been closed for orders for over a month
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 12:33:07
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 23 April 2017, 12:47:42
But if i understand the first post the payment process isn't complete.
the quantities have probably already been submitted
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 13:47:52
Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 April 2017, 14:51:39
But without the money all is open or not?
You should write Mr. KK directly to ask him about your interest. Nothing can be resolved by arguing in the thread, that is mostly for updates on the GB's progress.
Post by: Zero2Cool on Sun, 23 April 2017, 15:06:30
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 24 April 2017, 21:08:35
I am still waiting for reply after I submit the last email with list of error in last mockup, hopefully we can made payment ASAP.
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 April 2017, 02:58:40
Base: The DT logo has been corrected, the arrow keys will be corrected to ↑↓←→ .
AddOn: Added 2 diamond keys
Color Kits: No Changes
x-CMYW: I mistype Control as Alt in the last email, so the outcome...I kinda like this theme, maybe I will get some TU2 Alt made. The Alt will be corrected to N6 and Control to TU2.
(http://i.imgur.com/mauLeO0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)
Post by: iArson on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:26:41
Just sharing the latest revision from GMK.So are we no longer getting a yellow alt?
Base: The DT logo has been corrected, the arrow keys will be corrected to ↑↓←→ .
AddOn: Added 2 diamond keys
Color Kits: No Changes
x-CMYW: I mistype Control as Alt in the last email, so the outcome...I kinda like this theme, maybe I will get some TU2 Alt made. The Alt will be corrected to N6 and Control to TU2.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mauLeO0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)
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Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:38:43
Just sharing the latest revision from GMK.So are we no longer getting a yellow alt?
Base: The DT logo has been corrected, the arrow keys will be corrected to ↑↓←→ .
AddOn: Added 2 diamond keys
Color Kits: No Changes
x-CMYW: I mistype Control as Alt in the last email, so the outcome...I kinda like this theme, maybe I will get some TU2 Alt made. The Alt will be corrected to N6 and Control to TU2.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mauLeO0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dabK1l0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KJIk93h.png)
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We will get this made
(http://i.imgur.com/P7rwFqX.png)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:55:17
(http://i2.muimg.com/567571/cfe1ad899f865240.jpg)
Post by: Zero2Cool on Wed, 26 April 2017, 13:57:22
Post by: romevi on Wed, 26 April 2017, 14:42:51
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 30 April 2017, 07:23:00
i want buy dolch addon kit
it is possible?
my invoice number is DSP-050
Post by: calavera on Mon, 01 May 2017, 05:36:43
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:51:30
쪽지 주세요 , 키보드랩이나 쿨앤조이 활동하고 있습니다.
Post by: calavera on Mon, 01 May 2017, 06:59:24
Post by: Arcsxum on Mon, 01 May 2017, 09:19:47
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 03:26:18
The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 May 2017, 04:14:50
Hi everyone,
The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.
I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.
Oh dear... Anxious to hear what's wrong
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 04 May 2017, 04:19:12
Hi everyone,
The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.
I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.
If the impact may trigger majority to request for a refund, you may want to disclose the impact / changes first before paying GMK so that just in case you have enough funding for making the refund.
Hope everything will eventually work out.
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 04 May 2017, 09:41:01
Hi everyone,
The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.
I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.
If the impact may trigger majority to request for a refund, you may want to disclose the impact / changes first before paying GMK so that just in case you have enough funding for making the refund.
Hope everything will eventually work out.
Agreed on that statement. I'm curious as to why it's taking so long to pay for this one?
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 09:43:43
Hi everyone,
The invoice is finally here, but there are some huge impacts on this GB, I will post the details by tonight.
I am preparing for the initial payment to GMK to secure a slot.
You'd better share the information ASAP. "Huge impacts" remark makes people wonder and get nervous.
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:10:22
So I received the invoice by today, and there are 2 things that bring up my concern.
1) The shipping fees is more expensive than I thought, and more expensive than my another GB, Dolch Reborn, which is €100 more.
I have send an email to GMK asking for clarification, and will discuss with them to find a way to reduce the shipping cost.
2. The currency conversion between HKD and Euro hike since April.
JAN 2017; 1 EURO = 8.25 HKD
MAY 2017; 1 EURO = 8.51 HKD
(This is the Google rate, actual bank rate will be higher than this.)
This is what worried me most. Before I set the final price for this GB, I actually look at the past 6 months rate as reference and set that rate for this GB at 8.40. The GB met with a few obstacles, the keyset went through a few revision to make sure that everything is in perfect order, and then the GMK person in charge went for a 2 weeks holiday during the invoice stage, which further delay the GB to May.
This GB is now around HKD 10,000 short from the currency exchange, and this includes the mistake I made during the invoicing stage
You might be wondering, since I have set a higher rate, there should be enough money to get this GB moving forward.
Before the rate changes, the price was just able to cover for the Cost+Shipping+Utilities Fees (Bank charges for wire transfer, transportation fees for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets .
Seeing how the price for this GB is going to increase because of the rate changes, I am going to let the GB participants to decide if they wanna pull out or stay with the GB.
The new rate will be set at 8.70, I will send the new invoice out by tomorrow to collect the difference, together with a link to this update.
I hope you all understand the rationale of this, I will see if we still can get this GB going on at the end of the week when the new invoices go out and getting the feedback we need.
Thank you all for the support so far, and sorry that the GB has come to a state like this.
The rate difference that need to be collected.
| Item | HKD | USD | ||
| Base | 33.65 | 4.37 | ||
| AddOn | 16.45 | 2.14 | ||
| Color | 4.05 | 0.53 |
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:16:01
Post by: autobot on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:17:57
I'm sure others would agree.
And thank you for going back to GMK seeing how to reduce cost! ;)
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:26:57
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:28:07
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:35:59
Thanks Kekkon for the elaboration, although I still don't understand why here has to be transportation fees ("...for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets ...") can't GMK deliver to you directly?
I hope the fund collection will not delay the GB for too long.
Post by: romevi on Thu, 04 May 2017, 10:36:39
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:01:40
Luckily that seems manageable.
Thanks Kekkon for the elaboration, although I still don't understand why here has to be transportation fees ("...for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets ...") can't GMK deliver to you directly?
I hope the fund collection will not delay the GB for too long.
HongKong is free of tax, which mean we can save a lot compared to China(17% VAT) or Malaysia (6% VAT).
I will try my best to compile the Chronology of this GB since end of the March to date on why this GB took so long to get the invoice.
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:11:09
I will topup the paypal account and get the refund done.
Post by: krispy on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:12:06
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:18:21
Also, for those who request for refund, this will take a few days, probably next week before I can proceed with it since I have already withdraw most of the money to bank last week.
I will topup the paypal account and get the refund done.
Wouldn't it be better to offer the spots? I have read post of some individuals asking for the chance to join in.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:20:32
Luckily that seems manageable.
Thanks Kekkon for the elaboration, although I still don't understand why here has to be transportation fees ("...for my friend to go HK and pickup the sets ...") can't GMK deliver to you directly?
I hope the fund collection will not delay the GB for too long.
HongKong is free of tax, which mean we can save a lot compared to China(17% VAT) or Malaysia (6% VAT).
I will try my best to compile the Chronology of this GB since end of the March to date on why this GB took so long to get the invoice.
Interesting.
In Forbes top 10 tax Havens, Singapore is in and Hong Kong is out. I wonder if Singapore can serve similar function, or Luxembourg or London. By the way, this is a clever move, your friend will appear to have done just some shopping in Hong Kong. ;)
Post by: iArson on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:27:50
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:43:22
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 04 May 2017, 12:11:47
Please send us a revised invoice.
Post by: airs on Thu, 04 May 2017, 12:14:50
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 04 May 2017, 14:52:54
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 04 May 2017, 15:51:15
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 May 2017, 16:47:43
Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 17:17:14
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)
Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
That vendor's offering is over-priced. But, it is true that this GMK Icon Dolch Set has a great pricing.
Post by: ricyuyc on Thu, 04 May 2017, 18:39:12
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).
Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Post by: YH YOON on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:22:14
Can I send your money to your PayPal account now?
Will you give me an extra invoice?
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:23:08
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).
Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Based on my Dolch Pac I'd say it's closer to creamy white than bright white
Post by: ricyuyc on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:41:47
That's great.Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).
Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Based on my Dolch Pac I'd say it's closer to creamy white than bright white
Thank You~
Post by: palindrome on Thu, 04 May 2017, 20:53:40
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:25:49
That's great.Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).
Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Based on my Dolch Pac I'd say it's closer to creamy white than bright white
Thank You~
This is the true sh.....!
Post by: PoisonKing on Thu, 04 May 2017, 22:23:16
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 23:33:02
For those who wanna refund, please wait for a few days as there will be some times needed for the topup work, please don't dispute and PM me instead, I have already refund 3~4 people until now.
Post by: Zero2Cool on Fri, 05 May 2017, 02:29:08
If someone cancel his CMYW addon i would take it.
Post by: r5d on Fri, 05 May 2017, 05:39:44
Also transparency and communication is very good. Keep it up!
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 07:54:51
After I communicate with GMK regarding this matter, they are willing to offer us some discount to help us get through. The exact amount is not yet known, but I will get in touch with them again next Monday to get more info.
However, the shipping fees is fixed for now, so I will do a recalculation on the amount to fit this changes.
The EURO is rising again today, to 8.55, I am going to work on invoicing now with a details amount posted later.
Once again, thanks for the support.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 05 May 2017, 08:51:36
Your communication is much appreciated! :thumb:
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 05 May 2017, 09:55:49
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:00:38
| Item | HKD | USD(Estimate) | ||
| Base | 33.65 | 4.37 | ||
| AddOn | 16.45 | 2.14 | ||
| Color | 4.05 | 0.53 | ||
| x-CMYW | 23.85 | 3.10 |
Post by: thanhnv244 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:03:40
Post by: Zero2Cool on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:11:41
Post by: soilheart on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:57:58
Post by: lee jeong woo on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:01:10
Can I buy an add-on kit now?
give me invoice
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:11:00
So the latest invoice is only for the price difference? Will there be a third invoice for the shipping from you to us then?
Yeap, shipping will be a different invoice.
On a side note, I am also not sure how I do this, I mange to send out all the155 invoices just now.
An apologize to some people that I revised the invoice for a few times due to my own mistake. :-X
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:11:30
I received an invoice with a revised price
Can I buy an add-on kit now?
give me invoice
is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?
Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list. :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:14:18
Edit: Difference paid.
Post by: longtran1568 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:22:58
Post by: bkw1209 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:39:49
Just paid for the top-up invoice!
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:46:48
Post by: bassguy on Fri, 05 May 2017, 12:00:33
Post by: -musubi on Fri, 05 May 2017, 13:55:51
Post by: Zero2Cool on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:05:03
is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?
Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list. :thumb:
should i wait to pay?
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:15:43
Post by: airs on Fri, 05 May 2017, 17:55:37
Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 05 May 2017, 18:39:20
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 05 May 2017, 19:16:44
Post by: dadoduk on Fri, 05 May 2017, 21:26:20
Thank your GB!!
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 22:12:25
I only ordered the TU2 spacebar. Will I receive an invoice to pay a difference?
Nope, TU2 spacebars was leftover from another Group Buy. :)
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 05 May 2017, 22:12:53
is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?
Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list. :thumb:
should i wait to pay?
Yeap, I will change your invoice if the CMYW is going to happen.
Post by: baphotmet on Fri, 05 May 2017, 23:53:42
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 06 May 2017, 05:53:45
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 06 May 2017, 08:35:27
Post by: ideus on Sat, 06 May 2017, 08:36:39
Paid! Had a minor heart attack before I realised the invoice was in HKD, not USD :-X
:)) :)) :))
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 06 May 2017, 12:39:58
PM'd and e-mailed you about the additional invoice, not a biggy, just want to clarify to see what kits are in my order.
Please answer and / or amend the invoice when you have time.
Post by: palindrome on Sun, 07 May 2017, 22:38:01
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 08 May 2017, 08:34:10
Post by: Zero2Cool on Mon, 08 May 2017, 09:03:20
is someone with CMYW-Kit cancel his order?
Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list. :thumb:
should i wait to pay?
Yeap, I will change your invoice if the CMYW is going to happen.
i'm waiting to pay until you contact me
Post by: Arcsxum on Mon, 08 May 2017, 10:47:49
Thanks!I only ordered the TU2 spacebar. Will I receive an invoice to pay a difference?
Nope, TU2 spacebars was leftover from another Group Buy. :)
Post by: rmearns on Mon, 08 May 2017, 12:36:22
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 08 May 2017, 19:52:22
You answered,
Please wait until next Monday, then I will recompile the latest list.
However, the invoices arrived on May 6 did not include the addon Kit.
Is not it possible to order ?
Waiting for answers
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 May 2017, 22:08:44
Post by: BwackDwagon on Mon, 08 May 2017, 23:14:42
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 May 2017, 23:20:15
Let me know if anybody is looking for someone to takeover the Add-on set. I can't believe I missed this.
You should PM Mr. KK directly to ask if an add-on set may be added to your order.
Post by: gandroider on Tue, 09 May 2017, 00:30:40
I've read about this additional charges that may occur. Just send me the invoice... can't wait for this dolch set LOL..
Post by: bmilcs on Tue, 09 May 2017, 13:42:59
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 09 May 2017, 14:26:13
Thanks Kekkon!
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 10 May 2017, 09:27:42
On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.
It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 10 May 2017, 09:32:43
Post by: calavera on Wed, 10 May 2017, 09:43:53
Post by: ideus on Wed, 10 May 2017, 10:18:26
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.
On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.
It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:
Additional keys, yummy!
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 10 May 2017, 13:16:14
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.
On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.
It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:
It is a shame about the CMYW kits. I would be prepared to get an extra kit or two, but at 30 units short of MOQ, I'm not sure I have enough to take that many units. I would be interested in swapping my CMYW order for the teal accent kit if that's an option.
Post by: palindrome on Wed, 10 May 2017, 23:57:12
It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:
Oh yes! I have a few candidates in mind. :)
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 11 May 2017, 00:22:34
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.
On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.
It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:
It is a shame about the CMYW kits. I would be prepared to get an extra kit or two, but at 30 units short of MOQ, I'm not sure I have enough to take that many units. I would be interested in swapping my CMYW order for the teal accent kit if that's an option.
I'm very disappointed! Where can I get this set?
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:30:25
To answer some question, I send the invoices and PM in batch, if you got question/want to top up just PM me and I will put them on pending status, and made a remark for them.
On the GB, the x-CMYW is now around 120 orders, which unfortunately, I will have to make a refund for it, thanks everyone for the support on this. For Dolch Base, AddON and Color Kits, I am still making some final adjustment and will submit the latest changes to GMK by tomorrow.
It seems the currency is stable after the France Election, should we have enough extra funds after we do the payment, I will open a discussion to see what keys can we add to this GB. :thumb:
It is a shame about the CMYW kits. I would be prepared to get an extra kit or two, but at 30 units short of MOQ, I'm not sure I have enough to take that many units. I would be interested in swapping my CMYW order for the teal accent kit if that's an option.
I'm very disappointed! Where can I get this set?
For CMYW, Originative seems to have ready stock now.
Post by: lunr on Thu, 11 May 2017, 20:10:47
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 May 2017, 00:24:36
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 13 May 2017, 01:17:25
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.
Filco minila and xd60 :)
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 13 May 2017, 04:15:15
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 13 May 2017, 04:18:16
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.
It's so complete that one can lose track of its completeness... :p
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 May 2017, 06:07:55
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.
Filco minila and xd60 :)
Only the Filco Minila has a 2u Control key, but what the other - blank and shift - 2U keys are for? Are they redundant? Wouldn't that money be best invested buying other more useful keys? A second, spare, 6.25U space bar would rock, wouldn't it?
Edit: I just found that the Ergo-Dox takes up to 4, 2U keys; but, again, this set does not cover the Ergo Dox entirely.
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 13 May 2017, 10:42:44
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.
Filco minila and xd60 :)
Only the Filco Minila has a 2u Control key, but what the other - blank and shift - 2U keys are for? Are they redundant? Wouldn't that money be best invested buying other more useful keys? A second, spare, 6.25U space bar would rock, wouldn't it?
Edit: I just found that the Ergo-Dox takes up to 4, 2U keys; but, again, this set does not cover the Ergo Dox entirely.
I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...
EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)
Post by: poolside on Sat, 13 May 2017, 10:51:53
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 13 May 2017, 11:15:25
I wonder what keyboard do the three 2u row 4 keys in the add-on kit are for? I just paid for one add-on set because I want to have this set as complete as possible, but I do not know what are these unusual keys for.
Filco minila and xd60 :)
Only the Filco Minila has a 2u Control key, but what the other - blank and shift - 2U keys are for? Are they redundant? Wouldn't that money be best invested buying other more useful keys? A second, spare, 6.25U space bar would rock, wouldn't it?
Edit: I just found that the Ergo-Dox takes up to 4, 2U keys; but, again, this set does not cover the Ergo Dox entirely.
I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...
EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)
The 2u shift was a primary driver for me buying this because I'm tired of having to rely on blanks. Yes, it's a rare key but for me, it was a great feature of this set.
Post by: soilheart on Sat, 13 May 2017, 12:08:12
I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...
EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)
The 2u shift was a primary driver for me buying this because I'm tired of having to rely on blanks. Yes, it's a rare key but for me, it was a great feature of this set.
Ah, I see. G80-11[8/9]00 user? Or some other funky layout?
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 13 May 2017, 12:12:33
I think the blank 2U was added so you wouldn't be required to use a shift as a control on the minila. Not sure why the 2U shift was kept after that though as 2U's shifts are very rare (or old/odd, like the g80-11800) and could probably use the blank 2U...
EDIT: I obviously missed the 2U Control... My point still stands though, I don't see the use of all the special 2U keys, although I feel like it's too late to change the kits now =P Oh, and the blank was added because someone wanted it for planck spacebar it seems... (isn't GMK working on a convex 2u btw?)
The 2u shift was a primary driver for me buying this because I'm tired of having to rely on blanks. Yes, it's a rare key but for me, it was a great feature of this set.
Ah, I see. G80-11[8/9]00 user? Or some other funky layout?
Tinkering with an XD60 layout
Post by: ideus on Sat, 13 May 2017, 12:33:20
Truth be told, the add-on set was out of my radar until recently, when I decided to add it to my order, so please excuse me for raising these concerns this late. However, if the PO is not set yet, there is still some room for making fine adjustments to the sets. We all know that any key wider than one unit is more expensive, so if one or two out of the three 2U keys included could be replaced with something of broader appeal, it worth the time discussing.
The OP can always claim that time for changes is over and that the set layout is written in stone. But, asking will not do any harm, while we can get a few nice useful keys. ;D
If the three keys have potential use for any of the GB's buyers the issue can be immediately settled. I just would like to know it. Thank you.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 14 May 2017, 21:44:28
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679
It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 15 May 2017, 03:42:12
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679
It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.
Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.
Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.
Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.
As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.
Any comments are welcome on this.
Post by: Ultraman on Mon, 15 May 2017, 03:50:30
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 15 May 2017, 05:45:44
Hey Kekkon, I msg'd you about the refunds if we can't opt into extra charges. What's the timeline on that? Thanks
Pardon me, but what is your invoice no?
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 15 May 2017, 06:03:47
Post by: ideus on Fri, 19 May 2017, 08:07:06
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679)
It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.
Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.
Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.
Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.
As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.
Any comments are welcome on this.
FYI: I have read about an answer on the issue, apparently from GMK, that they consider flash and bad molding defects underneath the cap as cosmetic. That is not acceptable, the reinforcement cross underneath the key cap was included in the original design by Cherry for a reason and having those reinforcements wrong molded is not cosmetic. In the Honeywell set's GB Thread someone wrote that the defect appears to be related with custom colors, I just hope that Dolch is not in that category and no issue would arise. In any case, close communication with GMK is highly advisable. This is the first time this issue arises.
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 19 May 2017, 09:21:31
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679)
It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.
Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.
Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.
Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.
As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.
Any comments are welcome on this.
FYI: I have read about an answer on the issue, apparently from GMK, that they consider flash and bad molding defects underneath the cap as cosmetic. That is not acceptable, the reinforcement cross underneath the key cap was included in the original design by Cherry for a reason and having those reinforcements wrong molded is not cosmetic. In the Honeywell set's GB Thread someone wrote that the defect appears to be related with custom colors, I just hope that Dolch is not in that category and no issue would arise. In any case, close communication with GMK is highly advisable. This is the first time this issue arises.
:eek: We need some other manufacturers to try to kick GMK ass.
Just like how Gateron and others getting some market share of Cherry.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 19 May 2017, 13:07:35
A heads up and flag rising on a manufacturing quality issue reported by a participant of the GMK Honeywell group buy.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89508.msg2422679#msg2422679)
It would be advisable to pass the information to your GMK contact and ask her for implementing preventive quality measures to avoid the error that caused the bad molding on those keys to happen again, particularly with this Dolch Set.
Interesting, let me send an email to GMK and get feedback from them.
Over the weekend, I have compile the final orders quantity and has sent it over to GMK.
Now on the refund for CMYW, for those with CMYW only orders, I will direct refund.
As for those with other kits, what I have in my mind now is that I will use the CMYW as shipping fees when the keycaps arrived. We should able to know what's the price soon when Dolch Reborn start shipping, from there I will refund the remaining throught the ori invoice.
Any comments are welcome on this.
FYI: I have read about an answer on the issue, apparently from GMK, that they consider flash and bad molding defects underneath the cap as cosmetic. That is not acceptable, the reinforcement cross underneath the key cap was included in the original design by Cherry for a reason and having those reinforcements wrong molded is not cosmetic. In the Honeywell set's GB Thread someone wrote that the defect appears to be related with custom colors, I just hope that Dolch is not in that category and no issue would arise. In any case, close communication with GMK is highly advisable. This is the first time this issue arises.
:o We need some other manufacturers to try to kick GMK ass.
Just like how Gateron and others getting some market share of Cherry.
It is not known if the answer came from GMK or from the middle man of that other GB Sherryton's, just be aware of it. Our GB leader has direct contact with the manufacturer, so just keeping him informed may help.
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:20:00
I am still waiting for GMK response, I will shoot them an email today to get an update.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 07:25:28
Hi,Do you think you can add a basekit to the GMK order for me? Thanks in advance.
I am still waiting for GMK response, I will shoot them an email today to get an update.
Post by: iArson on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:11:06
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Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:39:26
If the orders haven't been placed is it too late to cancel. Originally on board because I liked the modifiers but without them I might want out.I'll take your spot for the basekit if kekkon agrees.
Post by: iArson on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:44:08
I have more than just a base. I have everything but the add on. I'll message him and see what can be done. How many CYMK short were weIf the orders haven't been placed is it too late to cancel. Originally on board because I liked the modifiers but without them I might want out.I'll take your spot for the basekit if kekkon agrees.
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Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 12:35:55
How many CYMK short were weBy the look of the first post, nine.
Post by: Cantello on Wed, 24 May 2017, 07:29:59
How many CYMK short were weBy the look of the first post, nine.
If it helps, I'll chime in with a CMYW set.
Post by: iArson on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:06:30
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Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:01:17
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 07:34:53
As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 25 May 2017, 08:38:14
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.
As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.
Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 08:45:53
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.
As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.
Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?
Not yet, only invoice update till now.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:10:21
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.
As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.
Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?
Not yet, only invoice update till now.
it would be very disappointing if this nice and special set comes with defects after feedback on a quality issue has been reported to GMK.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 25 May 2017, 17:54:33
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 27 May 2017, 08:15:51
I have received the invoice and already made a first payment attempt.
As for those who want to refund/modify their orders, I will proceed with these changes next week.
Any feedback on fixing the underneath stem's reinforcements defect?
Not yet, only invoice update till now.
it would be very disappointing if this nice and special set comes with defects after feedback on a quality issue has been reported to GMK.
Perhaps GH, DT, and /r/mk can make a joint online petition addressed to GMK. If pinned on top, hope there'll be at least a few hundard signatures.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 27 May 2017, 10:17:37
I think, that at least this upcoming manufacturing lot should be requested to be defect free. If our GB leader achieves a defect free manufacturing lot, it may be a strong precedent for future productions that they should also be free of these nasty defects. What may be better than a demonstration with evidence that these GMK made sets could be as nice as any old OG Cherry made one.
Post by: shensmobile on Tue, 30 May 2017, 10:18:20
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 30 May 2017, 12:32:58
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 30 May 2017, 14:34:53
Ah, due to poor circumstances, I need to back out of my order. Is there anyone out there who would like to take over my order if Kekkon is unable to refund me? I just have an order for the base set+CC space bars.I will.
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 31 May 2017, 08:42:57
-Dolch Icon
-Dolch AddOn
please PM me thanks :)
Post by: -musubi on Wed, 31 May 2017, 14:10:12
if someone want to sell thier spot
-Dolch Icon
-Dolch AddOn
please PM me thanks :)
I am looking to sell my spot as well, pmed!
For clarity, I have the base + addons + CC spacebars kits.
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 31 May 2017, 22:13:49
if someone want to sell thier spot
-Dolch Icon
-Dolch AddOn
please PM me thanks :)
I am looking to sell my spot as well, pmed!
For clarity, I have the base + addons + CC spacebars kits.
go pm-ing kekkon about this ;)
Post by: Arcsxum on Wed, 31 May 2017, 23:25:52
Any update on a ship date? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar if that helps you determine a time frame.
If not or depending on the date, I might want a refund.
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 00:46:09
Post by: ideus on Thu, 01 June 2017, 09:13:31
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:38:02
The invoice has been paid, and we are now waiting for GMK confirmation on this, should be done within this week.
It is now 12:30am here, so I won't be able to reply any PM for now.
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:49:26
Can you get it before summer is over?
Post by: Arcsxum on Fri, 02 June 2017, 00:23:08
Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.
Please let me know. Thanks.
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 02 June 2017, 01:36:39
We waited too long.No we didn't, it's not how this works
Can you get it before summer is over?
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:35:41
We waited too long.
Can you get it before summer is over?
I expect this will be shipped on September/2017, but I am not sure if it is still summer.
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:36:07
Hey kekkon,
Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.
Please let me know. Thanks.
Ok.
Post by: longtran1568 on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:36:47
We waited too long.
Can you get it before summer is over?
I expect this will be shipped on September/2017, but I am not sure if it is still summer.
It's summer to me whenever I receive it :P
Post by: ideus on Fri, 02 June 2017, 07:42:46
We waited too long.
Can you get it before summer is over?
I expect this will be shipped on September/2017, but I am not sure if it is still summer.
It's summer to me whenever I receive it :p
Or whatever be your favorite season. :))
Post by: ATXTider on Sat, 03 June 2017, 00:34:18
Post by: hyonglaw on Sat, 03 June 2017, 01:19:38
Can you please give me a refund?
September wasn't the expected expected time for this GB and I don't think I can wait for it
Post by: ideus on Sat, 03 June 2017, 05:58:10
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 03 June 2017, 09:21:36
I think you probably don't understand how group buy works.
Kekkon is a nice guy and he can give you a refund, but I suggest you to sell you spot here - there are people waiting in a line to get this kit.
Post by: hyonglaw on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:35:26
I know how group buy works, and also know that most of GBs offer refund when they do not meet their initial estimated shipping deadline for about two months, though not sure if Kekkon accepts the refund.
There are some people who can wait for the extra two months, while some people can't. It's that simple, and not the problem of understanding how GB works.
I also understand if he doesn't accept my refund request, which will lead me to finding someone else to get the keycaps instead.
Post by: codedisorg on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:03:22
Hey kekkon,
Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.
Please let me know. Thanks.
Ok.
Can I take the spacebar? I originally wanted a TU2 set but they ran out before I submitted my order.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:19:12
Post by: Arcsxum on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:43:07
Hey kekkon,
Is it possible for me to get a refund? I only ordered the TU2 spacebar.
Please let me know. Thanks.
Ok.
Can I take the spacebar? I originally wanted a TU2 set but they ran out before I submitted my order.
If kekkon could transfer the order, this works out really well.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 03 June 2017, 20:43:52
@menuhin
I know how group buy works, and also know that most of GBs offer refund when they do not meet their initial estimated shipping deadline for about two months, though not sure if Kekkon accepts the refund.
There are some people who can wait for the extra two months, while some people can't. It's that simple, and not the problem of understanding how GB works.
I also understand if he doesn't accept my refund request, which will lead me to finding someone else to get the keycaps instead.
With three posts you know how GB works? Yeah sure. Maybe somewhere else, but here, beyond rules, there is some basic etiquette and respect for those that take the time to run a GB and delivers. You do not exhibit such manners.
Post by: hyonglaw on Sun, 04 June 2017, 03:08:15
@menuhin
I know how group buy works, and also know that most of GBs offer refund when they do not meet their initial estimated shipping deadline for about two months, though not sure if Kekkon accepts the refund.
There are some people who can wait for the extra two months, while some people can't. It's that simple, and not the problem of understanding how GB works.
I also understand if he doesn't accept my refund request, which will lead me to finding someone else to get the keycaps instead.
With three posts you know how GB works? Yeah sure. Maybe somewhere else, but here, beyond rules, there is some basic etiquette and respect for those that take the time to run a GB and delivers. You do not exhibit such manners.
Oh yeah, there were few misunderstandings
first, the title of GB thread was still 'requesting invoices', and second, I just jumped to the last page and missed Kekkon mentioning about the payment to GMK, so I thought the payment hasn't still been made. As he offered a refund after the delays before, I thought refund would be okay before the payment, and thats why I asked him for refund.
Whatever, as I found out that the payments have already been made, I understand that refund is not the appropriate way.
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:03:13
(http://i.imgur.com/YTuU8DD.png)
Also, the 6U spacebars is compatible with Cherry 1800 layout for those who are wondering. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/NUZLzCl.jpg)
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:05:01
Hello Kekkon
Can you please give me a refund?
September wasn't the expected expected time for this GB and I don't think I can wait for it
Sure, sorry for missing this. :)
I also want to say sorry to everyone for the lack of update recently as my full time job is occupying my time on weekdays and my weekend also more happening than before. If you got question, please send me a PM. :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:09:26
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 12 June 2017, 11:53:59
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.
WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 June 2017, 14:22:54
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.
WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?
You should ask Originative what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.
Post by: ricyuyc on Mon, 12 June 2017, 19:20:50
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 13 June 2017, 01:27:12
(http://i.imgur.com/ZeqJjeg.png)
Updated render for Dolch Icon which I forgot to post long time ago. :-X
The arrow keys had been fixed.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 13 June 2017, 01:29:32
Post by: wangbwhz on Tue, 13 June 2017, 01:49:00
Post by: thanhnv244 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 02:14:20
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 June 2017, 07:36:55
Is it physically possible to have both off-centre and centered stems at the same spacebar? Hybrid?
It is not, apparently.
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 10:47:42
If so and x-CMYW didn't make it when are you going to refund for that set?
Just would like to know what the plan is, not harassing & many thanks again for organising this =]
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 13 June 2017, 11:17:35
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.
WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?
You should ask Originative what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.
I just wonder what keyboard other than the g80-1800 use a 6u spacebar
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:21:47
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.
WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?
You should ask Originative what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.
I just wonder what keyboard other than the g80-1800 use a 6u spacebar
Razer, Patriot, QPAD and a few other gaming style OEMs uses 6u centre stemmed spacebars
Post by: ATXTider on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:30:00
OK... so everything that is getting ordered has been paid for that's the order placed now?
If so and x-CMYW didn't make it when are you going to refund for that set?
Just would like to know what the plan is, not harassing & many thanks again for organising this =]
I ordered x-CMYW only, and got a refund yesterday. I'm guessing you'll see a refund soon for any x-CMYW.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:30:54
This set's 6u space bar is 18xx compatible. Just a heads up for those who are joining other GBs that will include the new centered stem 6u space bar that is NOT compatible with 18xx boards.
WHAT??? Are you telling me that I've ordered some spacebars from originative that are not 1800 compatible?
You should ask Originative what type of 6u space bar you are buying. What we have heard is that now GMK has molds with centered stems for that space bar size. The former standard off-centered stems molds should be still available. However, from now on, each GB leader should discuss what type of 6u space bar would be included if any. If the space bars you are buying are already in stock, it is likely that they are of the off centered stems type.
I just wonder what keyboard other than the g80-1800 use a 6u spacebar
Razer, Patriot, QPAD and a few other gaming style OEMs uses 6u centre stemmed spacebars
Interesting. I thought that the 6u-SB with centered stem was only for Topre modders.
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:24:29
Thanks for letting me know, too bad it didn't make it :/
EDIT: and I have received the partial refund for the x-CMYW today - thanks =]
Post by: ideus on Mon, 19 June 2017, 07:31:16
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 22 June 2017, 06:29:57
Post by: krispy on Fri, 23 June 2017, 08:48:12
Post by: ideus on Fri, 23 June 2017, 12:04:14
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 23 June 2017, 12:40:08
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Post by: kekkon on Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:08:51
On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:26:13
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 June 2017, 07:09:37
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.
On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.
Good news! Thank you for the update. This set is one of the more complete Dolch replicas ever made, thank you.
Edit: If you happen to have a Color Kit dropped, I am interested in getting it, along with my original order.
Post by: pjriot on Fri, 30 June 2017, 14:03:29
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 30 June 2017, 20:17:57
If a space opens up I'd love to get on board for the base set with addons and CC spacebars!
messaged.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 30 June 2017, 21:36:29
Post by: pjriot on Fri, 30 June 2017, 21:58:46
messaged.
Replied!
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 30 June 2017, 23:08:53
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.
On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.
Good news! Thank you for the update. This set is one of the more complete Dolch replicas ever made, thank you.
Edit: If you happen to have a Color Kit dropped, I am interested in getting it, along with my original order.
I do have extra color kits. :p
Post by: Dteach on Sat, 01 July 2017, 00:01:44
Post by: ideus on Sat, 01 July 2017, 09:52:52
For the 6u spacebar, we are getting the off-centered which is the standard for 1800 layout or old cherry board.
On the Dolch itself, the production is yet to be updated from my last email on Monday.
Good news! Thank you for the update. This set is one of the more complete Dolch replicas ever made, thank you.
Edit: If you happen to have a Color Kit dropped, I am interested in getting it, along with my original order.
I do have extra color kits. :p
Awesome, please add one to my order and invoice me.
Post by: gandroider on Mon, 03 July 2017, 22:34:12
Thank you
Post by: pjriot on Tue, 04 July 2017, 19:16:09
Just tried to PM you but I think it was swallowed. (not showing up in my sent items)
If you're not reserving whollypantalones spot I'm still extremely interested!
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:42:32
PM me if you are interested.
Post by: barcode on Wed, 12 July 2017, 03:56:18
I'm selling my order, Base set and CC Spacebars.I'd love to buy in with your order but I need the addon set as well. If anyone has an addon set they'd like to get out of then i'd be willing to buy in with that and your order for a base set + cc spacebars + addon set.
PM me if you are interested.
if that fails and it gets to shipping time then hit me up and I might buy them at that point even without the addon.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 July 2017, 07:10:02
I'm selling my order, Base set and CC Spacebars.I'd love to buy in with your order but I need the addon set as well. If anyone has an addon set they'd like to get out of then i'd be willing to buy in with that and your order for a base set + cc spacebars + addon set.
PM me if you are interested.
if that fails and it gets to shipping time then hit me up and I might buy them at that point even without the addon.
There might be some addon sets available directly from Kekkon, you should write him.
Post by: barcode on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:12:32
There might be some addon sets available directly from Kekkon, you should write him.I sent him a pm about getting a set of caps maybe a week ago? no response
Post by: ideus on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:18:56
There might be some addon sets available directly from Kekkon, you should write him.I sent him a pm about getting a set of caps maybe a week ago? no response
That's not good. I wrote him a few weeks ago also, with no response, either.
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:26:55
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:36:41
Hopefully we can get the estimate delivery date after that.
(http://i.imgur.com/fyQrESo.png)
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 12 July 2017, 10:27:44
Post by: airs on Wed, 12 July 2017, 16:22:23
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 14 July 2017, 08:44:28
Also, I have also asked for the possibility to change the 2U blank key to the 2u spacebars, GMK say they will check if it is possible and give me an update by Monday as well.
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 14 July 2017, 10:50:39
Just contact GMK and they will try to give me an update by next week, Monday.
Also, I have also asked for the possibility to change the 2U blank key to the 2u spacebars, GMK say they will check if it is possible and give me an update by Monday as well.
Brilliant kekkon! :)
You're going to be a champ in GMK Group-buy history by running this comprehensive Dolch set and by managing it well.
Please keep it up.
Love.
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:23:54
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:02:01
I will update again once I got the tracking.
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:02:50
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 18 July 2017, 00:48:30
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 18 July 2017, 02:46:54
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 18 July 2017, 03:13:07
Post by: PoisonKing on Tue, 18 July 2017, 07:14:14
Post by: Gouty on Tue, 18 July 2017, 09:54:40
Post by: ideus on Tue, 18 July 2017, 11:18:53
Got the update, it is schedule to ship on 04 AUG. That being said it is now in sorting and packing stage, and no changes can be made.
I will update again once I got the tracking.
August will be a bright and shiny month.
Post by: thanhnv244 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 20:47:57
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 21 July 2017, 17:36:46
Please add it whenever you get a chance :)
So hyped!!
Post by: ideus on Fri, 21 July 2017, 17:58:56
Just to be thorough, the spreadsheet is missing my x-CMYW kit that I paid for.
Please add it whenever you get a chance :)
So hyped!!
Where is the link for the spreadsheet? I'd like to check my order as well.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 21 July 2017, 18:07:24
Where is the link for the spreadsheet? I'd like to check my order as well.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87191.msg2347333#msg2347333
Here you go.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 21 July 2017, 18:11:13
Where is the link for the spreadsheet? I'd like to check my order as well.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87191.msg2347333#msg2347333 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87191.msg2347333#msg2347333)
Here you go.
Thank you. My order is fine; but, the color kit has not been included yet.
Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:00:11
Post by: ideus on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:59:20
Are there any R5/F row style caps in this?
Cherry nomenclature for the rows begins at the bottom row, so if what you mean is R5/A profile, the answer is no. I am not totally sure, but I recall that the bottom row for the 1.5u mods is B profile, the same as the 1.25u mods.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 25 July 2017, 03:23:15
Are there any R5/A row style caps in this?By the look of the renders, unfortunately, sadly, miserably, somberly, regrettably, no. There's no R5/A in this set, you can tell by the fact there's only one set of arrows, which are most likely R4/B.
Post by: Prelim on Tue, 25 July 2017, 05:04:48
Post by: ideus on Tue, 25 July 2017, 07:42:49
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 July 2017, 02:16:13
I will post update once I get them on hand, cheers.
The shipping form will also be ready in a day for two, should you have any changes on address please fill it up.
I will also include a poll in the form, whether you guys are OK that we strip the plastic wrap on GMK Dolch Tray to slip mods inside to save shipping fees (Down from 2KG to 1KG), which is a lot IMO.
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 26 July 2017, 03:54:48
Dolch has been ship out last week, I expect to get them on next month.If it's shipped through an express courier, namely DHL, you might get the delivery much faster than that.
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 04:50:49
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 26 July 2017, 04:52:04
GMK always ship through DHL service, AFAIK :thumb:Well, I get stuff from Asia to Europe in three working days with DHL. I believe the journey lasts the same backwards.
Post by: Petch on Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:20:23
Wondering if I could pick up a few extra keys later on, then mix and match
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 26 July 2017, 05:26:44
Are these the same colours as the Originative version?
Wondering if I could pick up a few extra keys later on, then mix and match
Fair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).
Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:49:09
Are these the same colours as the Originative version?
Wondering if I could pick up a few extra keys later on, then mix and matchFair and reasonable explanation! Please invoice me for the difference and I will sort it as soon as I can. (Will the shipping fees be invoiced at the same time as well or will you leave that for later?)Edit: I don't see anyone complaining about the price hike, but just to pre-empt any objections, Originative has just put on sale their own GMK Dolch GB, at the cost of $170 excluding shipping, so this will still be a lot cheaper!May I know the exact white colour of the legends of dolch set on ordinary Dolch computer g80-1813?
The dolch set from originativeco use brightening white(WS1) whereas this gb use milky white(CP).
Anyway, I would pay the difference.
Does anyone know if OCO was always using WS1? How about the GB from Ivan?
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:51:08
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:59:02
Dolch GBs were always CP (white) so far! (Ivan included)
So OCO, just changed to WS1? I had a mini-heart attack... :))
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 07:04:50
guess it's ok if you want to use the set as it is, but mixing it with other OG Dolch caps or even other GMK Dolch caps can be problematic.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 July 2017, 07:36:34
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 09:39:13
indeed, for some reason they've change it :/
guess it's ok if you want to use the set as it is, but mixing it with other OG Dolch caps or even other GMK Dolch caps can be problematic.
I was freaking out because I had a set from OCO back in the days and one from Ivan. I wanted to make sure that my keys weren't miss matched. Thank you for your reassurance :)). I literally looked at my keyboard this morning and looked at the legends. I was like the add-on kit is now useless to me! :confused:
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 26 July 2017, 11:00:38
Dolch GBs were always CP (white) so far! (Ivan included)
Why do they use "cream white"?
They couldn't achieve a pure white color back in the days? Or that they have planned for the yellowing of the ABS plastics due to UV related oxidation?
It seems to be nothing was pure white for designs in older era, e.g. Bauhaus, Eames, etc.
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 26 July 2017, 11:52:55
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 26 July 2017, 12:02:57
CP was the original "white" color available in Cherry Corp molds AFAIK (used for their OG hellgrau sets). The GMK white WS1 is a more recent color and I think it wasn't even available when GMK started producing doubleshots (after buying Cherry Corp. machinery)
Oh right, I just looked at the old GMK colour chips and WS1 looks like it's a newer addition.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 July 2017, 14:17:53
indeed, for some reason they've change it :/
guess it's ok if you want to use the set as it is, but mixing it with other OG Dolch caps or even other GMK Dolch caps can be problematic.
I was freaking out because I had a set from OCO back in the days and one from Ivan. I wanted to make sure that my keys weren't miss matched. Thank you for your reassurance :)). I literally looked at my keyboard this morning and looked at the legends. I was like the add-on kit is now useless to me! :confused:
You can always enjoy playing "find the different legends" in your spare time.
Post by: smokemm on Wed, 26 July 2017, 17:55:42
Just read further down.. Already on its way to you! even better :) super excited. thanks for running this...
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 26 July 2017, 20:24:39
We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 July 2017, 20:56:18
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes. :-X
We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.
I hope you get the other two ASAP and it is great to know that you are getting the sets this soon, great.
Post by: mason on Wed, 26 July 2017, 21:01:11
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes. :-X
We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.
I hope they're okay :'(
Post by: airs on Thu, 27 July 2017, 00:24:39
The parcel was delivered yesterday, but we only received 10 boxes instead of 12 boxes. :-X
We have email GMK regarding this and waiting for their reply on this matter, hopefully we can resolve this ASAP.
Good to hear you already have most of the shipment! Thanks for the update Kekkon. I'm sure the remaining two boxes will come soon.
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 27 July 2017, 03:51:17
The parcel was delivered yesterdayCan we have a sneak peek while we wait for the two missing boxes?
Post by: palindrome on Thu, 27 July 2017, 08:26:44
Quote
Can we have a sneak peek while we wait for the two missing boxes?
Exactly what I was thinking.
Post by: smokemm on Fri, 28 July 2017, 13:36:45
QuoteCan we have a sneak peek while we wait for the two missing boxes?
Exactly what I was thinking.
this and.. maybe start shipping from the orders that were placed first? :D
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 31 July 2017, 07:59:09
I can't take any photo now, they are already in another transit, hopefully by this weekend I can share the photo with you. :thumb:
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 03 August 2017, 12:27:10
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 03 August 2017, 12:37:53
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:58:27
Edit:
I think I'm good. Thanks for PMing me guys!
Post by: ideus on Sat, 05 August 2017, 11:36:36
My targeted layout with an upcoming PCB and this Kekkon's super-flexible key set.
(http://i.imgur.com/1ftK6Hw.png)
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 05 August 2017, 13:32:44
The weekend is here and we are waiting for the sneak peak's picture anxiously.
My targeted layout with an upcoming PCB and this Kekkon's super-flexible key set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1ftK6Hw.png)
What PCB is that? I can endure the Numpad on the left hand side.
Looks like a "Monarch" for Alps.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 05 August 2017, 13:45:57
The weekend is here and we are waiting for the sneak peak's picture anxiously.
My targeted layout with an upcoming PCB and this Kekkon's super-flexible key set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1ftK6Hw.png)
What PCB is that? I can endure the Numpad on the left hand side.
Looks like a "Monarch" for Alps.
This (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88951.msg2404853#msg2404853)is in its IC phase now and it is ALPS compatible, as well.
Post by: smokemm on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:12:03
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:26:39
(http://i.imgur.com/Xf2nF8A.jpg?1)
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:55:50
Post by: smokemm on Wed, 09 August 2017, 12:25:58
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 09 August 2017, 13:58:47
Post by: palindrome on Wed, 09 August 2017, 14:06:40
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 09 August 2017, 16:03:44
That's what I've ordered, very interesting. Thanks for sharing.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Xf2nF8A.jpg?1)
Post by: kekkon on Sat, 12 August 2017, 08:28:26
Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 August 2017, 10:31:15
I am preparing the shipping invoices and details atm...but I got confuse by some address so I am going to sent some PM to get it rectify. :))
Good idea. I know you should be very busy, so you have not had the chance to answer my PMs; but, please do not forget to add a color kit to my order before the final invoice and shipping it.
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 12 August 2017, 12:45:59
Post by: poolside on Sat, 12 August 2017, 17:26:00
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Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 August 2017, 18:43:32
I have just noticed that the Enter keycap legends from the base set and cyan accent kit are a little bit different. It is shorter on the accent kit. I hope that is only a render mistake :
(Attachment Link)
I'd love to get something like that.
Post by: lee jeong woo on Tue, 15 August 2017, 20:46:48
Take my money!
Post by: orpheo on Sat, 19 August 2017, 15:46:36
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 20 August 2017, 06:52:41
Initially I plan to send out first batch of shipping invoices by yesterday but I had to deal with some emergency issues that took my weekend away. :-X
Anyway, I will start sending out invoices batch by batch..if you have any question please PM me, I will try my best to answer them ASAP.
The invoices will include shipping fees, as well as packing material fees for the kits and also extra shipping incurs this time.
GMK is using Dachser to deliver the parcel in a pallet, which is a safer ways to deliver 10 boxes, however, the shipping charges are also more expensive than my previous group buys. We have to pay twice shipping fees, 1 to GMK and 1 to Dachser when they deliver the pallet to the door step.
On the shipping parts, we will be using China Post for countries that doesn't have direct SF Express coverage, while still using SF Express as the main shipping agent.
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 20 August 2017, 08:40:05
I want to apologize for MIA so long, I am working on a project related with SEA Games 2017 and had been very busy for last few week.
Initially I plan to send out first batch of shipping invoices by yesterday but I had to deal with some emergency issues that took my weekend away. :-X
Anyway, I will start sending out invoices batch by batch..if you have any question please PM me, I will try my best to answer them ASAP.
The invoices will include shipping fees, as well as packing material fees for the kits and also extra shipping incurs this time.
GMK is using Dachser to deliver the parcel in a pallet, which is a safer ways to deliver 10 boxes, however, the shipping charges are also more expensive than my previous group buys. We have to pay twice shipping fees, 1 to GMK and 1 to Dachser when they deliver the pallet to the door step.
On the shipping parts, we will be using China Post for countries that doesn't have direct SF Express coverage, while still using SF Express as the main shipping agent.
Shipping invoices? I've already paid for sipping?
Post by: iArson on Sun, 20 August 2017, 14:06:43
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Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 20 August 2017, 14:50:19
Either way I am looking forward to getting my add on kit!
Post by: ideus on Sun, 20 August 2017, 15:47:15
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:07:19
Post by: iArson on Sun, 20 August 2017, 18:48:49
Those of us that paid for it had the option of a refund or it going toward shipping. Thats yet to happen so some of should actually be getting some money back because of this.
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 21 August 2017, 09:44:21
(Shipping to USA, 1KG is HKD 180, while CMYW is HKD345+).
I have start to sent out the invoice for USA & South Korea members, others will follow after this.
https://goo.gl/Avq8cr
Hopefully I can send most of these invoices by this weekend.
Post by: bassguy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 11:30:58
Post by: autobot on Mon, 21 August 2017, 12:03:32
Post by: avid on Mon, 21 August 2017, 18:43:26
Post by: ideus on Mon, 21 August 2017, 20:01:25
If anyone want to sell their spot, LMK!
It is sort of doubtful, because this set has some very special features, but, good luck.
Post by: bkw1209 on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:38:35
Post by: dadoduk on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:40:40
Post by: jongaynor on Tue, 22 August 2017, 09:56:00
Post by: baechooboi on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:38:13
Post by: neralo on Thu, 24 August 2017, 22:58:16
Post by: palindrome on Fri, 25 August 2017, 11:25:45
Post by: YH YOON on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:06:37
Post by: kekkon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 05:47:51
Hong Kong and ShenZhen are now hitting by typhoon, heavy rains and storms, so the delivery has been delayed. My friend has ask the courier to come and collect the parcels since last Wednesday but they didn't show up until now.
Hopefully the situation will turn better in this few days so we can start sending out these babies.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:27:29
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:29:08
Will shipping begin right away?
Post by: airs on Wed, 30 August 2017, 11:50:10
My work life is busier than I thought, so I didn't manage to send other invoices,I will try to send out more of them later.
Hong Kong and ShenZhen are now hitting by typhoon, heavy rains and storms, so the delivery has been delayed. My friend has ask the courier to come and collect the parcels since last Wednesday but they didn't show up until now.
Hopefully the situation will turn better in this few days so we can start sending out these babies.
Hi Kekkon, any updates as to when we can expect to get invoices and when the set will be shipped out? I'm anxiously waiting to put Dolch on my LZ CLS!
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 03 September 2017, 08:45:53
But it is too late.
You have not logged in since the last 27 days
Is the progress going on?
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:09:28
Post by: Prelim on Sun, 03 September 2017, 10:54:06
Post by: smokemm on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:20:53
Also moving soon - is it possible to update my shipping address?
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 03 September 2017, 16:11:10
Still waiting for the shipping invoice.
Also moving soon - is it possible to update my shipping address?
I have created a form for those who need address changes : https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2 (https://goo.gl/forms/MyOVSB6ys4jrfOYm2)
I can't take any photo now, they are already in another transit, hopefully by this weekend I can share the photo with you. :thumb:
It's in the title of the thread mate =P
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 04 September 2017, 12:33:14
My work life is busier than I thought, so I didn't manage to send other invoices,I will try to send out more of them later.
Hong Kong and ShenZhen are now hitting by typhoon, heavy rains and storms, so the delivery has been delayed. My friend has ask the courier to come and collect the parcels since last Wednesday but they didn't show up until now.
Hopefully the situation will turn better in this few days so we can start sending out these babies.
Hope kekkon and his colleagues are doing fine. It seems to me that the storm has gone:
http://www.hko.gov.hk/m/satellite.htm
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 05 September 2017, 11:18:11
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:01:19
paid up - thanks =]
Has Kekkon resume the invoicing?
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:03:00
Post by: airs on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:05:42
paid up - thanks =]
Has Kekkon resume the invoicing?
Looks like it - the spreadsheet has a lot more entries in the invoiced column.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:20:59
paid up - thanks =]
Has Kekkon resume the invoicing?
Looks like it - the spreadsheet has a lot more entries in the invoiced column.
Awesome!
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:33:01
I have refund most of the CMYW orders, with around 20 left..I will resume by tomorrow together with other leftout shipping invoices today.
Post by: kekkon on Tue, 05 September 2017, 12:51:02
Post by: baechooboi on Tue, 05 September 2017, 14:29:47
Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.
I have refund most of the CMYW orders, with around 20 left..I will resume by tomorrow together with other leftout shipping invoices today.
Kekkon - Noob question here, so thanks in advance for replying. Is the total $ HKD in the spreadsheet supposed to equal out to the total $ HKD I've paid so far? The spreadsheet says my order was for $1422.35 HKD but my first invoice from March was for $1480.68 HKD and the second invoice on the shipping top-up/FX issue from May was another $82.79 HKD.
I am suspecting the PayPal invoices include (some FX fluctuation + PayPal fees +shipping from GMK to HK) and the amount in the spreadsheet doesn't?
Thanks for your answer on this, kinda got me curious, but with the additional invoice and x-CMYW still not refunded, this one's little confusing.
Post by: avid on Tue, 05 September 2017, 14:34:33
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 05 September 2017, 16:27:33
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 05 September 2017, 19:44:54
Paid the shipping, although my invoice mentioned a colour kit I didn't order? Still, wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Same here...paid it anyways so there are no more delays.
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 06 September 2017, 01:35:38
Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.
I have refund most of the CMYW orders, with around 20 left..I will resume by tomorrow together with other leftout shipping invoices today.
Kekkon - Noob question here, so thanks in advance for replying. Is the total $ HKD in the spreadsheet supposed to equal out to the total $ HKD I've paid so far? The spreadsheet says my order was for $1422.35 HKD but my first invoice from March was for $1480.68 HKD and the second invoice on the shipping top-up/FX issue from May was another $82.79 HKD.
I am suspecting the PayPal invoices include (some FX fluctuation + PayPal fees +shipping from GMK to HK) and the amount in the spreadsheet doesn't?
Thanks for your answer on this, kinda got me curious, but with the additional invoice and x-CMYW still not refunded, this one's little confusing.
The spreadsheet didn't include the 4.6% fees from Paypal, the second is because of the sudden fluctuation on HKD to EURO(From 8.5 to 8.85) and my mistake on calculation of Paypal fees(4.1% instead of 4.6%).
Post by: longtran1568 on Wed, 06 September 2017, 01:44:13
Paid the shipping, although my invoice mentioned a colour kit I didn't order? Still, wouldn't have made much of a difference.
Same here...paid it anyways so there are no more delays.
Same here
weird but I also think it doesn't make much different. Kekkon could you comment on this?
Post by: kekkon on Wed, 06 September 2017, 05:03:17
Post by: baechooboi on Wed, 06 September 2017, 11:53:23
Some people may be inherently more patient than I am, and good for them, but it's not wildly aggressive to ask for an update after acquiescing to news sequence on this GB that's been nothing but unfavorable turn of events: "shipping price higher than expected->PayPal fee calculation mistake->unfavorable fluctuation to the FX rate->GMK rep on vacation->10 out of 12 boxes arrived so 2 are missing so still waiting (THIS WAS IN JULY)->swamped with South East Asian Games project (???)->Hurricane->Busy worklife(???)->Actually a friend is shipping so don't know the shipping sequence->I have about 20 more refunds/invoices remaining will resume tomorrow (this was posted 9/5 which was already after weeks of lead time)"...I understand that your revised timeline suggests completion of GB in Sep/Oct and you will offer free shipping if shipped after 9/30...So if I receive a shipment notice 3 weeks later, I should be just content when I already know this had been sitting in your room for two solid months?...I mean...Is my frustration completely groundless and without merit? I get that it is what it is, but rather than a promise of free shipping with a 3-week buffer, I'd prefer a solid promise on a date.
Post by: adamcobabe on Thu, 07 September 2017, 05:28:36
Post by: lee jeong woo on Thu, 07 September 2017, 21:48:56
Kekkon - I am sure there's a number of participants on this GB quietly wondering why s/he has not received the refund on the x-CMYW and/or the invoice for the shipping. I've heard the rhetoric from the "exalted elders" and "experienced veterans" on "how GB works" and "the GB guidelines/policies", so I am trying best not to offend you/cross the line here, but, there is still a number of people who have not heard on the x-CMYW kit refund and the shipping invoice.
Some people may be inherently more patient than I am, and good for them, but it's not wildly aggressive to ask for an update after acquiescing to news sequence on this GB that's been nothing but unfavorable turn of events: "shipping price higher than expected->PayPal fee calculation mistake->unfavorable fluctuation to the FX rate->GMK rep on vacation->10 out of 12 boxes arrived so 2 are missing so still waiting (THIS WAS IN JULY)->swamped with South East Asian Games project (???)->Hurricane->Busy worklife(???)->Actually a friend is shipping so don't know the shipping sequence->I have about 20 more refunds/invoices remaining will resume tomorrow (this was posted 9/5 which was already after weeks of lead time)"...I understand that your revised timeline suggests completion of GB in Sep/Oct and you will offer free shipping if shipped after 9/30...So if I receive a shipment notice 3 weeks later, I should be just content when I already know this had been sitting in your room for two solid months?...I mean...Is my frustration completely groundless and without merit? I get that it is what it is, but rather than a promise of free shipping with a 3-week buffer, I'd prefer a solid promise on a date.
i agree!
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 08 September 2017, 10:09:00
Post by: baechooboi on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:03:56
Do I have to pay again? I thought that not getting refund for x-CMYW paid for shipping???
This type of confusion is precisely what I was whining about...If I am reading the Google spreadsheet correctly, your shipping invoice has neither been "paid" nor "sent", so you are one of 40ish people in the purgatory...
Post by: avid on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:11:51
Also, i just got a spot in this GB. Is anyone who bought the add-on kit willing to sell keys needed for 1800 layout? Mainly looking for:
R1: delete, end, PgDn
R2: (-)
R3: (+)
R4: 0 (either normal "0" or "00")
I would also be interested if someone dont want the whole add-on kit (and 1 icon pack)
Post by: gojira54 on Fri, 08 September 2017, 11:15:37
Waiting patiently here :p
Post by: VersaceTornado on Fri, 08 September 2017, 13:03:54
Post by: ideus on Fri, 08 September 2017, 14:31:37
Post by: airs on Sat, 09 September 2017, 11:43:22
Post by: avid on Sat, 09 September 2017, 12:40:18
-icon
-add-on kit
-spacebar (cc)
-color kit
Post by: smokemm on Sat, 09 September 2017, 15:25:09
Post by: YH YOON on Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:05:18
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 00:30:06
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 September 2017, 02:23:55
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 10 September 2017, 05:22:30
Finger-crossed that this group-buy will all be fine and Kekkon is making some GMK Dolch history and will have good karma in GH for a long long time.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 September 2017, 08:10:31
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 08:14:44
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:14:14
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:23:27
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:25:30
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose... :rolleyes:
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:54:52
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 09:35:54
I'm guessing it's too late to get in on this?
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
The GB's order period has closed many weeks ago. Although, you may try to get a drop out order. It is unlikely, but still a possibility.
Post by: baechooboi on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:38:06
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose... :rolleyes:
This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:56:58
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose... :rolleyes:
This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL
Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding :))
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:10:28
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose... ::)
This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL
Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding :))
But font is black in my end. Ashame of the confusion, though. There was no way I can get it. :(
Post by: baechooboi on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:44:33
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose... ::)
This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL
Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding :))
But font is black in my end. Ashame of the confusion, though. There was no way I can get it. :(
No worries buddy, this thread needed a good comic relief anyway. Fun times!
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 September 2017, 12:45:45
This is Dolch reborn, a modern version with keys that never existed, before. A set that will be with you always. Nothing to regret, as having fake color legends, or strange side printing. All in all the best ever Dolch.
Dunno if this was by design, but your font colour makes it impossible to read when using the GH dark theme
Colors are chosen, not assigned randomly. The L9 legends was "designed" to match those of OG Cherry Dolch sets. As other sets was chosen to look whiter as coming out of an overexposed picture.
The difference between CP on OG Dolch and WS1 font on Oco's recent Dolch set has nothing to do with what I said, but whatever, I suppose... ::)
This gave me a really good laugh... ROFL
Haha likewise man, such a funny misunderstanding :))
But font is black in my end. Ashame of the confusion, though. There was no way I can get it. :(
No worries buddy, this thread needed a good comic relief anyway. Fun times!
You're right. :thumb:
Post by: airs on Mon, 11 September 2017, 21:43:19
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 11 September 2017, 21:53:13
You can find it in the R column of the Excel chart
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Mon, 11 September 2017, 22:08:27
Post by: PoisonKing on Tue, 12 September 2017, 07:09:13
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 12 September 2017, 07:34:56
(https://i.imgur.com/qHUrEmy.jpg)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 14 September 2017, 10:57:24
Post by: airs on Thu, 14 September 2017, 12:04:09
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 14 September 2017, 12:11:19
Anyone been able to track their shipment? Mine just keeps saying not found :(
Same, I'm guessing the label has been made, but awaiting to drop off the package.
Post by: baechooboi on Thu, 14 September 2017, 14:16:16
Anyone been able to track their shipment? Mine just keeps saying not found :(
Same, I'm guessing the label has been made, but awaiting to drop off the package.
Ditto. I'm just glad Kekkon got to making the labels though...
I kinda knew "shipping out" last week wasn't realistic considering the rate of progress hitherto.
As aside, if you have an SF tracking, that image puzzle verification to prove that you are human is real freakin' pain. LOL
Post by: r5d on Fri, 15 September 2017, 03:38:24
Got it, thanks!
Post by: baechooboi on Fri, 15 September 2017, 20:50:26
Post by: lee jeong woo on Fri, 15 September 2017, 21:12:40
what is mean?
Post by: airs on Fri, 15 September 2017, 21:46:07
Post by: YH YOON on Fri, 15 September 2017, 22:50:21
:(
Post by: avid on Sat, 16 September 2017, 10:10:27
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 16 September 2017, 10:18:32
Well, my keyboard is ready. Don't make it wait too much. ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qHUrEmy.jpg)
Curious. I though Filco keyboards come with Costar stabs. Is this a Phantom PCB and plate in a Filco case?
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 16 September 2017, 11:04:17
A PCB I made with custom plate in a Filco case.Well, my keyboard is ready. Don't make it wait too much. ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qHUrEmy.jpg)
Curious. I though Filco keyboards come with Costar stabs. Is this a Phantom PCB and plate in a Filco case?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 September 2017, 11:52:39
Post by: Prelim on Sat, 16 September 2017, 11:56:58
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 16 September 2017, 12:20:44
What is the period of PayPal protection - has it already expired?
Edit: Found the tracking number of my order! :thumb:
Post by: avid on Sat, 16 September 2017, 12:50:19
Post by: mindxthinker on Sat, 16 September 2017, 12:53:43
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:17:31
Should we be alerted already?kekkon has been running Dolch Reborn as well and some people actually received it. I guess we should not worry.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:23:52
Should we be alerted already?kekkon has been running Dolch Reborn as well and some people actually received it. I guess we should not worry.
I agree that we will get our sets, though, not yet and maybe not as quickly as we would like.
Post by: rmearns on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:26:50
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sat, 16 September 2017, 16:51:02
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 16 September 2017, 17:44:31
Post by: hoanglh94 on Sun, 17 September 2017, 03:32:58
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 04:26:28
My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland :thumb:
Post by: thanhnv244 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 04:56:59
Hi guys, check your tracking number.
My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland :thumb:
Most RR and L...CN work. But my RG isn't :( still waiting for a site can check RG :(
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:26:01
I will start sending out invoices to those had yet to received, and will refund the difference to those already paid for this, it should be a few dollar cheaper to around $8 cheaper for EURO countries like Germany, Sweden & etc. (FROM >$28 to around $20).
We target to all ship all orders out by the weekend, sorry for the waiting, but I personally feel this is more acceptable price for shipping fees.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:28:17
My friend finally found a cheaper and proper shipping solutions after weeks of finding.
I will start sending out invoices to those had yet to received, and will refund the difference to those already paid for this, it should be a few dollar cheaper to around $8 cheaper for EURO countries like Germany, Sweden & etc. (FROM >$28 to around $20).
We target to all ship all orders out by the weekend, sorry for the waiting, but I personally feel this is more acceptable price for shipping fees.
It is very good news. Thank you for all the hard work.
Post by: avid on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:29:07
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:29:36
Hi guys, check your tracking number.
My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland :thumb:
Most RR and L...CN work. But my RG isn't :( still waiting for a site can check RG :(
For Thailand and Vietnam, it is using another tracking system, I am waiting for my friend reply on this, will update you later.
Post by: avid on Mon, 18 September 2017, 07:34:21
Just paste your tracking number after the / in this link:
https://track.aftership.com/instant/
Post by: lee jeong woo on Mon, 18 September 2017, 08:12:33
Please answer me
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 September 2017, 08:38:31
Post by: hoanglh94 on Mon, 18 September 2017, 08:48:29
Hi guys, check your tracking number.
My tracking number works now. It's in transit to Finland :thumb:
Most RR and L...CN work. But my RG isn't :( still waiting for a site can check RG :(
For Thailand and Vietnam, it is using another tracking system, I am waiting for my friend reply on this, will update you later.
Please check my payment. I have paid the shipping more than a week ago :D
Post by: ideus on Mon, 18 September 2017, 12:06:12
Post by: rmearns on Mon, 18 September 2017, 18:46:52
Post by: jdos on Tue, 19 September 2017, 19:38:16
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 20 September 2017, 12:48:22
Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 20 September 2017, 13:40:53
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)
Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
OMG OMG OMG!!!
Post by: baechooboi on Wed, 20 September 2017, 17:04:01
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)
Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
WTF! OMFG! THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL! THANKS KEKKON!
Post by: ideus on Wed, 20 September 2017, 17:42:49
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)
Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
Wow! It is a great key set.
Post by: PoisonKing on Thu, 21 September 2017, 07:45:31
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)
Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
meanwhile, Indonesian buyers are still waiting for our shipping invoices :(
Post by: poolside on Thu, 21 September 2017, 14:46:07
My invoice is a template with all item included, I will manually change their quantity when billing different invoices...probably I forget to change the quantity to 0 for some kits, really sorry about this. :-X
Hi Kekkon, my PayPal is ready but my shipping invoice is missing the extra spacebars kits I ordered.
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:03:07
lol, same here, I didn't even noticed and I've already paid. :eek:My invoice is a template with all item included, I will manually change their quantity when billing different invoices...probably I forget to change the quantity to 0 for some kits, really sorry about this. :-X
Hi Kekkon, my PayPal is ready but my shipping invoice is missing the extra spacebars kits I ordered.
No tracking number yet, though.
Post by: avid on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:14:52
Post by: ideus on Thu, 21 September 2017, 15:51:22
I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."
This paragraph is copied from the OP. See item 2.
Description:1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1. 3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it. 4. Color used:Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
Post by: poolside on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:23:17
I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."
This paragraph is copied from the OP. See item 2.
Description:1. All kits come with Trays, while space bars set will be shrink wrap.2. The base sets doesn't come with space bars, please remember to buy 1. 3. All the kits have a MOQ of 150. Hopefully we can do it. 4. Color used:Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, CP, RO2, N5, DY, AE
I already asked this, got this response: "CC spacebars is by default included in the base already."
Damn, I totally forgot about this. Thanks :thumb:
Post by: Prelim on Fri, 22 September 2017, 06:41:55
Post by: romevi on Fri, 22 September 2017, 07:22:44
^...^
Post by: airs on Fri, 22 September 2017, 12:19:56
Post by: ideus on Fri, 22 September 2017, 13:04:43
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Cn2KNsa.jpg)
Received mine today. Surprised how quickly it got here! (UK)
Is the empty space in the middle of the add-on kit blister pack for a BAE? It is the only key this set is missing.
Post by: e900ee on Sun, 24 September 2017, 10:08:34
Is there something wrong with my package?
Post by: Sputnik on Sun, 24 September 2017, 13:17:11
Any left over???? https://geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/grin.gif
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 September 2017, 15:25:53
(https://i.imgur.com/amkPTJq.gif)
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 24 September 2017, 16:03:49
Post by: airs on Sun, 24 September 2017, 16:44:32
Got mine yesterday, Thanks kekkon :thumb:
Where do you live?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 September 2017, 16:50:27
Got mine yesterday, Thanks kekkon :thumb:
First served fellows are obligated to post pictures of their sets.
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 24 September 2017, 17:26:04
Where do you live?
Southeast Asia - Thailand ^-^
First served fellows are obligated to post pictures of their sets.
Here we go :))
(https://i.imgur.com/i4ew5cS.jpg)
*changed photo cause bad white balance
Post by: ideus on Sun, 24 September 2017, 20:19:52
Where do you live?
Southeast Asia - Thailand ^-^
First served fellows are obligated to post pictures of their sets.
Here we go :))Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i4ew5cS.jpg)
*changed photo cause bad white balance
Not add-on kit? Gee!
Post by: lee jeong woo on Sun, 24 September 2017, 23:41:46
i live in South Korea
(https://i.imgur.com/9sYqPje.jpg)
Post by: thanhnv244 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 00:23:05
On Sunday I finally got it !
i live in South KoreaShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/9sYqPje.jpg)
I'm so jealous right now
Post by: Mykii22 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 00:23:08
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/3251951dfcb1dccab5c28a223c22a1ad.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170925/6d79816d139f642591e039d5b6c12d8b.jpg)
Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 01:26:09
Post by: airs on Mon, 25 September 2017, 01:42:01
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 September 2017, 02:00:01
My package still says Processed Through Facility GUANGZHOU EMS, CHINA. Hasn't changed since the 17th :(
chuck it into 17track, you might get a USPS tracking no. if it's been handed over
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 25 September 2017, 06:27:07
Post by: kekkon on Mon, 25 September 2017, 09:27:38
Those with bases will slowly goes out before end of the month, my friend got some personal issues to settle out on the weekend, sorry for this.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 25 September 2017, 09:41:35
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 25 September 2017, 10:20:24
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:07:16
Not add-on kit? Gee!
ikr, I'm so dumb :'(
Post by: ideus on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:22:37
Not add-on kit? Gee!
ikr, I'm so dumb :'(
Sorry pal. Did not want to make you feeling bad.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:43:07
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 14:00:30
My caps just turned up today, I'm in the UK so you EU peeps out there hold tight, your set will probably be with you soon!
No pic? Come on
Post by: youno89 on Mon, 25 September 2017, 18:15:22
Post by: airs on Mon, 25 September 2017, 18:21:20
I've got a package but does not include x-CMYW.
x-CMYW didn't make MOQ so it wasn't made.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 26 September 2017, 08:12:15
I've got a package but does not include x-CMYW.
CMYW did not get produced. If you followed the thread you would already know this. Also you should already have received a partial refund (minus shipping fees)
Post by: gojira54 on Tue, 26 September 2017, 10:42:27
(https://preview.ibb.co/hY10pQ/jhgfxhjgfx.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mXDrw5)
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 26 September 2017, 11:35:27
SF953262080759
Post by: airs on Tue, 26 September 2017, 11:46:21
Should I be worried? :(
Post by: PutDownTheKeycap on Tue, 26 September 2017, 15:30:20
Does anyone know how to track down below tracking number?
SF953262080759
17track works if you remove the SF prefix: https://www.17track.net/en/track?nums=953262080759
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 28 September 2017, 13:55:26
Shipping will start this week, but the shipping sequence was on my friend...so I don't know what is the sequence, anyway we target to ship all parcel before 30 SEPT, for those parcel we fail to ship out before that, we will bear the shipping fees for it and refund the shipping fees.
seems like many orders are going to be sent out after 30/Sep as well, aren't we going to pay for the shipping?
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 28 September 2017, 14:15:22
Post by: ideus on Thu, 28 September 2017, 14:29:14
What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?
I have the same. No idea what is it.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:00:38
Will there be problem the packages are stuck in German custom again, but the system was not able to show?
I recently have lost another package in the process of being held by the German custom again (from MassDrop), totally not able to track after a certain stage.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:09:23
The tracking info stuck at 20-09-2017, when it was still in China.Haha, tell me about it (different item but from the same region)
Will there be problem the packages are stuck in German custom again, but the system was not able to show?
I recently have lost another package in the process of being held by the German custom again (from MassDrop), totally not able to track after a certain stage.
(http://puu.sh/xLd55/0d4b400903.png)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:32:26
Thanks Kekkon <3
Post by: avid on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:46:28
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 28 September 2017, 17:59:27
What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?
I’m curious about this as well.
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 03:58:14
It has been updated with tracking numbers, I guess it was meant to check what was ordered before packing it up.What does check mean in the tracking number field (http://goo.gl/uR8YMe)?
I’m curious about this as well.
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 07:48:48
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 29 September 2017, 10:01:45
Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?Mine arrived yesterday.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 12:28:34
When was it shipped?Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?Mine arrived yesterday.
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 29 September 2017, 17:18:36
Dunno. Can't recall which date the sheet was updated with a tracking no for my order. About two weeks ago if I have to guess. Never got a shipping notification either.When was it shipped?Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?Mine arrived yesterday.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 17:26:26
Alright, thanks for the info. I guess no one actually got a shipping notification at all.MoreWhen was it shipped?Since we're at it, how long did it take for you european buyers to deliver?Mine arrived yesterday.
Dunno. Can't recall which date the sheet was updated with a tracking no for my order. About two weeks ago if I have to guess. Never got a shipping notification either.
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 03:15:49
I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon :thumb:
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sat, 30 September 2017, 10:51:11
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now :(
I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon :thumb:
Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:05:24
Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now :(
I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon :thumb:
Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:24:10
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
I have the keycaps from Originative and a set of Ivan's dolch, and the legends match well iirc. I can check when I get home today and post a side by side of Ivan's, Kekkon's, and Originative's caps.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:46:28
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
I have the keycaps from Originative and a set of Ivan's dolch, and the legends match well iirc. I can check when I get home today and post a side by side of Ivan's, Kekkon's, and Originative's caps.
That would be the definitive evidence for color matching. Thank you in advance.
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:05:07
IIRC the FJ Addon from Originative usesGot mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now :(
I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon :thumb:
Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:42:42
IIRC the FJ Addon from Originative uses L9 legends, only their newest Dolch set has WS1 legends.Got mine today and realised that base kit is included scooped F/J only :( feel so dump not order Icon pack now :(
I'm in Vietnam and my order was shipped about 10 day ago, hope you guys get your Dolch soon :thumb:
Not sure if they ship to Vietnam but https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j (https://originative.co/products/dolch-f-j) has a small add-on kit that will help you.
For the record. I've read that Originative's Dolch has its legends in a lighter color than L9. If it is true, that means that keys do not match in between, with Kekkon's Dolch, that hass classic L9 legends.
Originative's new Dolch set does not match its own Add-on? Interesting way to "serve" its customers.
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:55:50
Originative's new Dolch set does not match its own Add-on? Interesting way to "serve" its customers.I believe it matched their own previous releases of Dolch, but if it's true that now they use WS1, then it doesn't match the current one. And it doesn't need to, the newer set already has barred FJ keys included in the base set.
Originative is trying variations of their sets, like the new redux version of Hyperfuse. I actually like that they are trying to improve them.
Post by: Endeavour1934 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 13:58:14
Post by: ideus on Sat, 30 September 2017, 14:34:02
I do have Originative FJ addon and I just double checked and it matches perfectly my Dolch set from zFrontier which had CP legends, like this one from Kekkon.Originative's new Dolch set does not match its own Add-on? Interesting way to "serve" its customers.I believe it matched their own previous releases of Dolch, but if it's true that now they use WS1, then it doesn't match the current one. And it doesn't need to, the newer set already has barred FJ keys included in the base set.
Originative is trying variations of their sets, like the new redux version of Hyperfuse. I actually like that they are trying to improve them.
A classic is preserved or restored, but not "improved". Yet, I can see your point.
Post by: kekstee on Sat, 30 September 2017, 18:57:02
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sat, 30 September 2017, 23:39:10
(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 September 2017, 23:41:12
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)
might be the light but they look basically the same colorwise to me
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 October 2017, 00:40:33
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)
Endeavour explained that only the last Originative Dolch set's legends were altered to WS1, what you have should still be L9, that is why they look the same.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 01 October 2017, 04:38:11
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Y6IGOmi.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KecwOPF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yGvuWbO.jpg)
Endeavour explained that only the last Originative Dolch set's legends were altered to WS1, what you have should still be L9, that is why they look the same.
L9? I thought proper Dolch alphas colour was CP
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 01 October 2017, 05:05:24
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 01 October 2017, 15:22:04
Here are some side-by-side photos of different runs of GMK dolchShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KpxOqZV.jpg)
Wow... the F and J look very different!
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 02 October 2017, 13:00:30
Finland, package arrived :D
Thanks kekkon and everyone involved!
Post by: ideus on Mon, 02 October 2017, 13:47:26
Post by: airs on Mon, 02 October 2017, 18:52:32
(https://i.imgur.com/WzecZSO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MbBl9wn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iaNWnNv.jpg)
Post by: avid on Mon, 02 October 2017, 18:54:37
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 October 2017, 21:21:05
Finally arrived! :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WzecZSO.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MbBl9wn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iaNWnNv.jpg)
nice
Post by: theillumedpanda on Tue, 03 October 2017, 04:45:05
Finally arrived! :)Very nice!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WzecZSO.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MbBl9wn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iaNWnNv.jpg)
If there are any leftovers or if someone is interested in transfering, I'd be happy to take it.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 October 2017, 07:59:30
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 04 October 2017, 09:50:37
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 04 October 2017, 09:54:22
I just received my package, and I got an Add-on kit instead of the color kit that I ordered. I PM'd Kekkon but he has been offline for a week, so I doubt he'll answer. What do you guys think I should do?Wait and see who has got mixed orders like yours.
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 05 October 2017, 03:31:10
They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)
Proof that they are real:
(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)
Now I need a keyboard that fits them... :p
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 October 2017, 13:51:51
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!
They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)
Proof that they are real:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)
Now I need a keyboard that fits them... :p
This (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.msg2500995#msg2500995)may fit the bill?
Post by: romevi on Thu, 05 October 2017, 19:48:13
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 06 October 2017, 01:47:03
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!
They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)
Proof that they are real:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)
Now I need a keyboard that fits them... :p
This (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.msg2500995#msg2500995)may fit the bill?
All good until I read that they sports a Type-C... Why?
Hope they'll be competitively priced.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 06 October 2017, 07:30:34
Thanks Kekkon!!! Kudos to you and everyone involved!!!
They are here and without German custom complications (a MassDrop package of mine a few days ago was declared "undeliverable" and returned to the US...)
Proof that they are real:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DCra2ah.jpg)
Now I need a keyboard that fits them... :p
This (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.msg2500995#msg2500995)may fit the bill?
All good until I read that they sports a Type-C... Why?
Hope they'll be competitively priced.
I do not like it either and I concur that pricing might be an issue. There is no reason to ask for higher price than prototype, which, because of learning curve and development is by definition of higher price.
Post by: popkorn62 on Sun, 08 October 2017, 01:51:54
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 09 October 2017, 03:28:16
Post by: PoisonKing on Wed, 11 October 2017, 03:01:23
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 11 October 2017, 04:10:10
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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I got mine yesterday. I didn't get cyan spacebars kit?
Post by: avid on Wed, 11 October 2017, 04:23:45
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 11 October 2017, 16:40:30
Anyone with add-on kit whos interested in selling the R1 delete/end/pgdn and the 0.
I see you trying to put together a Dolch Pac lookalike :))
Don't forget the split numpad plus/minus keys :thumb:
Post by: kekkon on Thu, 12 October 2017, 09:51:54
There are still 3 orders pending for shipping, 2 of them haven't pay the shipping invoices.
And the last 1 is because he only pay on 29th October, which is actually eve of the China long holiday (8 days in total) where the pos services had already stop accepting parcels. The parcel will go out on this weekend.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 October 2017, 10:43:28
Is it normal for the tracking to remain stock at the same original location at China with no additional transactions?
Post by: avid on Thu, 12 October 2017, 10:45:44
Anyone with add-on kit whos interested in selling the R1 delete/end/pgdn and the 0.
I see you trying to put together a Dolch Pac lookalike :))
Don't forget the split numpad plus/minus keys :thumb:
Revo actually posted a picture of a metal Dolch pac, but just going for regular 1800 layout :)
Hmm not sure of big "+" or - and + split.
Post by: kekkon on Fri, 13 October 2017, 22:45:08
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 16 October 2017, 08:47:15
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.
has your friend send it over the weekend?
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 16 October 2017, 10:11:28
Post by: ideus on Mon, 16 October 2017, 12:00:32
still waiting a response @kekkon, I've been refunded without requesting it :(
Uh! That is bad.
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 16 October 2017, 15:22:02
Uh! That is bad.
indeed, and as if it was not enough @kekkon don't reply my pm anymore :(
I even said I want to withdraw the refund and pay the shipping invoice for my order again... this is an extremely unpleasant situation for someone who advanced the money for this GB, waited almost a year and all the sudden sees it all go away from seller's unilateral decision :/
Post by: rmearns on Mon, 16 October 2017, 18:41:58
pretty stoked. :thumb:
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 19 October 2017, 08:54:33
(https://i.imgur.com/RoTrUXd.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/XwEj9PH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/wphVNpb.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/eo5OJyi.jpg)
Thanks kekkon. :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 October 2017, 12:02:12
Post by: soilheart on Thu, 19 October 2017, 14:04:17
I'm kinda starting to get worried...
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 19 October 2017, 15:15:42
My tracking hasn't moved since I was accepted on the 29:th =(Mine never worked. It updated when I got my set delivered.
I'm kinda starting to get worried...
Post by: ideus on Thu, 19 October 2017, 15:26:37
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KZcuhJG.jpg)
pretty stoked. :thumb:
Cool!
Post by: autobot on Thu, 19 October 2017, 21:49:56
I got mine yesterday, I do really like this set.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RoTrUXd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XwEj9PH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wphVNpb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eo5OJyi.jpg)
Thanks kekkon. :thumb:
Waitasec...is the stepped control center-stemmed?!
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 20 October 2017, 04:19:12
is the stepped control center-stemmed?!Nope, offcenter. I have a custom PCB in that case.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 20 October 2017, 06:29:55
is the stepped control center-stemmed?!Nope, offcenter. I have a custom PCB in that case.
Ah, makes sense! Had to ask, as I know stock Filcos have center stem caps lock! :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:06:07
Post by: autobot on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:21:06
I've not seen or hear about a GMK made centered step cap, ever, but some of the hat type that do not count as step, though.
The pic confused me for a sec since it looked like a stock Filco, but it was in fact a custom phantom style tkl pcb (didn't know too much about phantom) in a Filco housing.
edit: I also failed to notice the 1u windows and 1.5 Controls and Alts. I think I was tired when I asked. :p
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:38:50
I've not seen or hear about a GMK made centered step cap, ever, but some of the hat type that do not count as step, though.
The pic confused me for a sec since it looked like a stock Filco, but it was in fact a custom phantom style tkl pcb (didn't know too much about phantom) in a Filco housing.
edit: I also failed to notice the 1u windows and 1.5 Controls and Alts. I think I was tired when I asked. :p
:)) :))
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 20 October 2017, 09:04:31
I also failed to notice the 1u windows and 1.5 Controls and Alts.And the split Backspace but you can actually achieve that on a stock Filco PCB, with a Pegasus Hoof, because it supports JIS.
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 20 October 2017, 10:04:49
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Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 20 October 2017, 10:14:29
Did anyone else receive a T cap with a crooked legend?
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me
This thing happened to GMK Carbon before, don't know why still haven't fixed yet.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 10:58:21
Did anyone else receive a T cap with a crooked legend?
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If it were a coin, the defect would increase it value, although being a key cap, it will not.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:22:04
i have that issue on my GMK olivetti set from 2013 lol
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 20 October 2017, 13:29:26
for some reason GMK's "T" legends always seem to be ****ed up
i have that issue on my GMK olivetti set from 2013 lol
Yeah it’s really inconsistent. Looking at my sets, some of them have it and some of them don’t.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 20 October 2017, 16:16:32
It looks gorgeous, I ain't sure if I want to put a set this handsome to use, or just to stare at it all day.
Thank you Mr. Kekkon, I will join any GB you run anytime. Good job.
Post by: PoisonKing on Sun, 22 October 2017, 21:54:25
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.
any updates? two weekends have passed
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 23 October 2017, 11:57:51
Post by: dcandic on Wed, 25 October 2017, 23:27:16
Why don't you answer the letter I sent you?
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 29 October 2017, 22:19:43
Post by: neon_tom on Mon, 30 October 2017, 06:31:55
Any Canadians got theirs yet?
Got mine a few weeks back
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 30 October 2017, 07:21:54
(https://i.imgur.com/58nP2ES.jpg)
I hope you like it!
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Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 30 October 2017, 08:08:27
Any Canadians got theirs yet?
Got mine a few weeks back
Argh, yours was shipped through China Post EMS while mine is registered snail mail from Malaysia :(.
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 30 October 2017, 09:14:24
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.
Three weekends have passed and still no word from you
Post by: Prelim on Mon, 30 October 2017, 11:26:54
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 October 2017, 13:55:55
Just wanted to share the Dolch setup I went for after I got the caps from this buy :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/58nP2ES.jpg)
I hope you like it!
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It looks very elegant.
Post by: avid on Mon, 30 October 2017, 14:03:51
Post by: honeynugget on Thu, 02 November 2017, 13:14:04
Post by: PoisonKing on Mon, 06 November 2017, 07:27:44
Received the Dolch icon + addon set today, but there's no DR Cyan mod in the package :(Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/29c7c9dbd5ad6bb017d6643f02f59930.jpg)
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My friend miss out the Mod, the mod will ship out by the weekend. Sorry.
Four weekends have passed and still no update
Post by: Prelim on Wed, 08 November 2017, 07:47:42
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I'm still incredulous on how easy I've advanced money to this GB almost 1 year ago (in pratice I've just made a loan to @kekkon), didn't get my order and have been refunded without requesting it, even loosing ~10€ in the convertion rates and PP fees... this is the first time I'm having trouble in a GB :/
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:18:34
Post by: avid on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:27:46
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?
Both mix well, but grey + dolch is one of the best combinations.
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:29:27
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?
Both mix well, but grey + dolch is one of the best combinations.
Thanks. Grey it is.
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:34:57
A quick question: black or grey keyboard case with GMK dolch set, any suggestions?
Both mix well, but grey + dolch is one of the best combinations.
Thanks. Grey it is.
yup, can confirm that Dolch looks better with grey board rather than black
(https://i.imgur.com/u3Kh41H.jpg)
*photo is using OG Dolch
Post by: avid on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:38:30
Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:41:09
Oh damn, incredible photo.Thanks.
Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
It's okay, you can never have too much keyset. Including the set from this GB, I now have three Dolch sets
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 10 November 2017, 20:54:16
Oh damn, incredible photo.Thanks.
Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
It's okay, you can never have too much keyset. Including the set from this GB, I now have three Dolch sets
Looks fantastic. Is this titanium grey txcp?
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 10 November 2017, 22:21:31
Oh damn, incredible photo.Thanks.
Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
It's okay, you can never have too much keyset. Including the set from this GB, I now have three Dolch sets
Looks fantastic. Is this titanium grey txcp?
Yup, titan grey TXCP R2
Post by: ideus on Fri, 10 November 2017, 22:48:30
Oh damn, incredible photo.
Why do i keep buying sets when all i need is dolch and grey.
Classics will be always classics for a reason, the rest are just momentary.
Post by: JulienC on Sun, 12 November 2017, 00:31:43
Any Canadians got theirs yet?
Still waiting for my package in Montreal, it's been 33 days in transit and no sign of it yet :(
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 12 November 2017, 01:17:23
Any Canadians got theirs yet?
Still waiting for my package in Montreal, it's been 33 days in transit and no sign of it yet :(
We are on the same boat...wondering how much longer it'll be...
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 09 August 2018, 14:35:41
Post by: ideus on Thu, 09 August 2018, 16:24:00
does anyone have a set to sell? I'm looking for one ;)
You should know that there is a set that has adopted the popular Dolch in its name. It is not an actual Dolch, but only an inspared on Dolch one. Kekkon's is closer to be the perfect real Dolch set.
Post by: Prelim on Thu, 09 August 2018, 16:36:12
Post by: RominRonin on Tue, 30 October 2018, 15:17:01
;)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 31 October 2018, 10:28:18
So what are the chances of this being re-run then?
;)
Probably none. You can still get GMK Dolch from Originative (though the last round from them had the wrong shade of white used for the legends)
Post by: RominRonin on Fri, 02 November 2018, 12:42:32
I believe Mechmarket is the only option right now...