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im sure people won't compare this to oblivion
im sure people won't compare this to oblivion
love the error modules. i'm in
Please consider adding R3 1.75u ERROR! novelties.
Any chance we could sneak a 1.25u R3 key into one of the side kits for the 40% crowd? I'm sure there are at least a few people out there who'd pick up a novelty kit if it also meant they could get 40s keys. It might be fitting in the Error kit (either 40s are an error, or you appeal to the programmer 40% user) as long as it doesn't jack up the price too much.
This is a really nicely formatted IC. I'd definitely be up for checking out the GB post if it happens.
Also would be great to have an alpha only kit ( cadet sub legend alphas ?) to go with night mode etc.
Any chance on Colemak support? This is a killer set that I would love to be a part ofStrong username to post content ratio
- Consider adding one more 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl bottom-row keys for consistency of HHKB layout.
- Consider adding 1.5u bottom-row Super keys for HHKB layout consistency (using 1.5u keys programmed as the OS key)
YeetAny chance on Colemak support? This is a killer set that I would love to be a part ofStrong username to post content ratio
Not for a meme's sake, but looking at alphas made me realize for some reason the letters and base color remind me of glow in dark yellowish/white fonts.
I don't know if this was ever done, but is there any chance the letter parts on caps can be glow in dark doubleshot? Lol
Probably gonna cost a lot, I bet... ;D
We looked into your request. This is certainly interesting and we put it on our internal list.
Currently we have other priorities and therefore don't have the capacities to undergo testing etc.
Feel free to contact us again, in a year's time or later.
Thank you everyone for such great feedback. All your ideas and suggestions will be taken into consideration moving forward. I worked really hard to present a well thought out initial IC, and I'm glad it paid off, reading all these comments :)Not for a meme's sake, but looking at alphas made me realize for some reason the letters and base color remind me of glow in dark yellowish/white fonts.
I don't know if this was ever done, but is there any chance the letter parts on caps can be glow in dark doubleshot? Lol
Probably gonna cost a lot, I bet... ;D
I actually contacted GMK about exactly this a few weeks ago. It was like they had never heard of such a thing:QuoteWe looked into your request. This is certainly interesting and we put it on our internal list.
Currently we have other priorities and therefore don't have the capacities to undergo testing etc.QuoteFeel free to contact us again, in a year's time or later.
So, that's how that went …
Ne F13 avail :D
But srs this is great, interested to see it progress
Ne F13 avail :D
But srs this is great, interested to see it progress
It is actually included in the ERR! Module currently. Or did I completely miss the joke?
Please can you add the UK ISO 2 and 3 keys to the base set? Then I'll be in for sure.
yea this is pretty fresh. check out SP for color codes, you might be able to get some really close with the ABS chips and GMK can match those pretty well.
I would recommend looking into RAL to match colors -- I think GMK has been having a lot of good results by going with RAL matching instead of Pantone matching. Otherwise this set is looking good, really love how it looks.
- Consider adding one more 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl bottom-row keys for consistency of HHKB layout.
- Consider adding 1.5u bottom-row Super keys for HHKB layout consistency (using 1.5u keys programmed as the OS key)
yea this is pretty fresh. check out SP for color codes, you might be able to get some really close with the ABS chips and GMK can match those pretty well.I would recommend looking into RAL to match colors -- I think GMK has been having a lot of good results by going with RAL matching instead of Pantone matching. Otherwise this set is looking good, really love how it looks.- Consider adding one more 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl bottom-row keys for consistency of HHKB layout.
- Consider adding 1.5u bottom-row Super keys for HHKB layout consistency (using 1.5u keys programmed as the OS key)
seconding these, also consider removing numpad sublegends
Please can you add the UK ISO 2 and 3 keys to the base set? Then I'll be in for sure.
Agreed - I'd be 100% in for this if the base had full ISO UK (see below, shaded keys are already in base)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nIU3vpi.png)
This is a really nicely formatted IC. I'd definitely be up for checking out the GB post if it happens.
I think the renders have more of a purple cast than I expected. Maybe it's just an optical illusion.
Love everything about this except for the wacky coloured mods. I'm just not big on that at all, for any set, it almost works here but still. Great set though honestly.
yea this is pretty fresh. check out SP for color codes, you might be able to get some really close with the ABS chips and GMK can match those pretty well.
I love this. Possibly a 2U Shift in core set? Thanks!
Any chance there would be mods only kit? I feel like this would work really well with the alphas from other sets as well
Please consider adding R3 1.75u ERROR! novelties.
And a R3 2.25 as well. ;D
Can I request some renders with Nightmode + Black TKL keyboards? Cheers!
Personally I think the colours are a bit off. There is too much red/purple in the base colour. It should be a dark blue.
Also I personally would prefer it to have mods and alphas with the same base colour. It would separate it from the other IDE theme based GMK sets as well as being more faithful to the theme.
what are the odds youll separate out the numpad at this point? lol need to start thinking about budget to get all the extra kits
Btw, on top clack's stream last night, chat went mental for this set and Garrett of Dixemech said in chat he would take your set in a second if you are looking for vendors still.
Please can you add the UK ISO 2 and 3 keys to the base set? Then I'll be in for sure.
Agreed - I'd be 100% in for this if the base had full ISO UK (see below, shaded keys are already in base)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nIU3vpi.png)
yea this is pretty fresh. check out SP for color codes, you might be able to get some really close with the ABS chips and GMK can match those pretty well.I would recommend looking into RAL to match colors -- I think GMK has been having a lot of good results by going with RAL matching instead of Pantone matching. Otherwise this set is looking good, really love how it looks.- Consider adding one more 1u Alt and 1u Ctrl bottom-row keys for consistency of HHKB layout.
- Consider adding 1.5u bottom-row Super keys for HHKB layout consistency (using 1.5u keys programmed as the OS key)
seconding these, also consider removing numpad sublegends
Looks really nice.
My only suggestions so far would be to remove Numpad and ISO from base. :thumb:
Looks really nice.
My only suggestions so far would be to remove Numpad and ISO from base. :thumb:
I agree. Recent sets have proven it's much more of a total financial burden on the majority that don't use it and pay for it than it is for the few that use to pay for it as an extra kit. The difference in price between people that don't use it and pay for it is noticeably more (~30$) than the difference in price between getting it included vs buying a separate kit (~15-18)
Just my .02
Personally I think the colours are a bit off. There is too much red/purple in the base colour. It should be a dark blue.
Also I personally would prefer it to have mods and alphas with the same base colour. It would separate it from the other IDE theme based GMK sets as well as being more faithful to the theme.
Yeah, I think I need to adjust the white balance a bit more.
I'm very much set on using the different base colors on mods and alphas. I think it works really well with the color-scheme. Then again how cool it would be to have a separate kit with space cadet alphas using the same base color as the modifiers, right?
Would also be interested in a deskpad if:
1. Artwork is geometric/pattern based and doesn't actually have any vampires/bats on it.
2. Deskpad only uses alpha & modifier colours rather than the bright legend colours.
I'm boring :)
Would also be interested in a deskpad if:
1. Artwork is geometric/pattern based and doesn't actually have any vampires/bats on it.
2. Deskpad only uses alpha & modifier colours rather than the bright legend colours.
I'm boring :)
Hey, that's pretty much exactly what I had in mind, something stylish. It's not like I'm going full on Halloween all of a sudden after specifying that this set has a software aesthetic :P
Looks really nice.Why don't we just make the set only include keys that you personally will be using on your keyboard? Sounds fair
My only suggestions so far would be to remove Numpad and ISO from base. :thumb:
Super glad to hear this! I checked the Dracula theme website and saw a few cartoon halloween graphics which made me nervous regarding how far you would take the theme :D
Super glad to hear this! I checked the Dracula theme website and saw a few cartoon halloween graphics which made me nervous regarding how far you would take the theme :D
The theme is literally a set of colors that code is rendered in: https://github.com/dracula/dracula-theme/#color-palette
It would be wonderful to add Hiragana【 MODULE】There are so many Haranga sets tho
It would be wonderful to add Hiragana【 MODULE】There are so many Haranga sets tho
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It would be wonderful to add Hiragana【 MODULE】There are so many Haranga sets tho
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No more hiragana stuff please lol
It would be wonderful to add Hiragana【 MODULE】There are so many Haranga sets tho
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No more hiragana stuff please lol
This. Please. Otherwise, this is an awesome set. Probably set of the year and I'd be in to buy like, 2 or 3.
I think we can rest easy about the hiragana. Pretty sure OP agrees that it's not fitting with the set, could be wrong tho
I think we can rest easy about the hiragana. Pretty sure OP agrees that it's not fitting with the set, could be wrong tho
Yes, rest assured there will be no Hiragana Module. Instead, I will change the alphas in the Core Module to Hiragana /s
Really like this, but lots of effort will have to go into getting the right colors :'(
Really like this, but lots of effort will have to go into getting the right colors :'(
Glad you like it! I am fully aware that getting the colors just right will be the biggest challenge with this colorway, however I'm also confident I can achieve just that.
This set is beautiful! I'm in for sure.
Any chance of separating the numpad/iso off from the base kit? I have a feeling I'm already going to be shelling out a pretty penny for the extra kits I want, and any reduction in price on the base kit would be quite welcomed.
Now this is an idea I can get behind.This set is beautiful! I'm in for sure.
Any chance of separating the numpad/iso off from the base kit? I have a feeling I'm already going to be shelling out a pretty penny for the extra kits I want, and any reduction in price on the base kit would be quite welcomed.
Im feelin this one too
This set is beautiful! I'm in for sure.
Any chance of separating the numpad/iso off from the base kit? I have a feeling I'm already going to be shelling out a pretty penny for the extra kits I want, and any reduction in price on the base kit would be quite welcomed.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
+1 no iso no numpad
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty ****ing stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits and at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just fill 1 board they use. ****ing Americans.
I get that youre heated, but you need to calm down my dude. No need for attacking nationalities.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just be able to fill 1 board they use.
You are correct, excluding is the wrong word in your example because it makes no ****ing sense. In the case of pushing ISO and numpad out into it's own kit is excluding if it does not make MOQ and does not get manufactured.
The beauty of GMK sets is being able to cover pretty much every conceivable layout with a base kit. Imagine if all GMK sets were just the stupid 65%, TKL, etc "sets" they are now doing on Massdrop like for red samurai. I don't expect you to understand though as you are probably American.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty ****ing stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits and at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just fill 1 board they use. ****ing Americans.
As an entitled American, calm down and be nice.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty ****ing stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits and at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just fill 1 board they use. ****ing Americans.
As an entitled American, calm down and be nice.
Going to use this quote because it has your true feelings, unedited.
If this is your attitude regarding keycaps, I think you might need to take a step back from this hobby. We're all in this to get cool things and share the joy associated with said things, not to draw lines between nationalities and create animosity between each other.
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More on topic though, that Jane CE render looks fantastic. This is one of the first sets in awhile that has gotten me really excited and I'm very much looking forward to future updates. Keep it up man, you're absolutely on track to have an easy run at that 250 MOQ.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just be able to fill 1 board they use.
You are correct, excluding is the wrong word in your example because it makes no ****ing sense. In the case of pushing ISO and numpad out into it's own kit is excluding if it does not make MOQ and does not get manufactured.
The beauty of GMK sets is being able to cover pretty much every conceivable layout with a base kit. Imagine if all GMK sets were just the stupid 65%, TKL, etc "sets" they are now doing on Massdrop like for red samurai.
Mod edit: Why you have to be mad :( Keep tone civil, or warnings are going to be issued
Please keep ISO in! Really important to us Brits.And to us Euros in general.. The main reason this hobby is not catching up as much around here is the lack of ISO support in most cheaper kits. I expect GMK to at least help us a bit here given the premium price of their kits.
I'd really like to be able to grab a couple base kits
So you would like to exclude a bunch of people by leaving out numpad and ISO just so you can pick up a couple of base kits to flip. Nice man.
How is making a separate kit for numpad/iso "excluding?" They would still be able to get the keys they need.
And let's be real "a bunch of people" is a bit of a stretch.
Is having a separate 40s/ortho kit "excluding" 40% users? You aren't even making sense. With the different child kits here I think this set can work on a number of very different levels that I really like, and I'd like to be able to use it on more than one board. I just love the colorway, and I'd like to be able to get all the kits I want without breaking the bank.
I could argue that including numpad/iso in the base kit is "excluding" ansi/tkl/75%/65%/60% users etc. by making them all pay extra for a bunch of keys they don't need just to bring down the cost of numpad/iso a bit for the few people who need it. Calling it "excluding" wouldn't really make sense, though.
I'm not saying "forget them," because I'd probably grab the kit myself just for the extra coverage incase I ever need it. I just dont want 2 sets of iso and numpad. This interest check already seems to have a lot of hype around it. I'm pretty sure that a numpad/iso kit would make MOQ just fine.
Also, while I'm genuinely not interested in "flipping" some base kits, I really don't see a problem with purchasing extras in an unlimited groupbuy that you think will be popular enough to make some money on. Even vendors buy extras and charge a significant markup for the extra kits. If I was looking to flip some base kits the addition of a numpad really wouldn't affect my bottom line very significantly, based on how ridiculous the aftermarket prices on certain popular sets can get. You could always charge a little more for a large base kit with lots of coverage.
Either way, like I said, I don't really see a problem with such practices in an unlimited run group buy. It's not at all the same as having a bunch of bots get you a couple spots for a tgr board or something that you don't even want, thus keeping others from having a fair chance at getting one and then flipping them for an exorbitant profit.
It's not even comparable to the "future crime" you're acusing me of, Tom Cruise.
Quit acting like I'm oppressing people or something. You sound paranoid.
It was a simple suggestion.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just be able to fill 1 board they use.
You are correct, excluding is the wrong word in your example because it makes no ****ing sense. In the case of pushing ISO and numpad out into it's own kit is excluding if it does not make MOQ and does not get manufactured.
The beauty of GMK sets is being able to cover pretty much every conceivable layout with a base kit. Imagine if all GMK sets were just the stupid 65%, TKL, etc "sets" they are now doing on Massdrop like for red samurai.
Mod edit: Why you have to be mad :( Keep tone civil, or warnings are going to be issued
Entitled? I'm just asking you to consider the needs of people like me. There's no expectation that this set, or anything, should be catered to my every whim, and to clarify, I want to pay less for ONE kit, as I'm sure many people do. Pointing out my specific case of considering multiple base kits just highlights the issues associated with having that much coverage included in the base kit. Moving some of the less used coverage to it's own kits (ex. Jamon, Striker) can bring the base kit down from around $140 to a cool $100.
Again, it could be counter-argued that you are the entitled one by expecting others to pay 40% more just so you can get what you want. In the example of Striker, 728 base kits were sold. Of those only 200 people actually wanted numberpads. To put that in context, that's almost the same amount of people who wanted 40%/orthodox coverage (197), generally considered a niche of a niche. More people bought spacebar kits than numberpads (271).
I think those numbers also pretty thoroughly disprove that "the beauty of gmk sets is coverage." I'm fairly new to the hobby, but even with my relative lack of experience in the community I'd say that the beauty of gmk sets are colors, quality, and profile, not coverage you can get that anywhere and for much cheaper.
I'm not trying to dump on iso either, if they can't make moq I don't care if that's included in the base kit. The main issue for me is cost and numberpad being put on it's own will help more significantly with that.
In the example of Jamon, according to the numbers on the massdrop page, 846 base kits were sold. Of those, 250 numpads and only 23 ISO kits were sold. A literal meme kit, "the eρe survival kit," sold 137 units. In this example the base kit+numpad+iso would run you around $154. If it were all thrown together in a base kit, based on my limited experience, it would probably be in the ballpark of $140.
So you're calling me entitled for simply asking if the core kit can be leaned down a bit to cut cost for the vast majority of users, but you're expecting everyone else to pay an extra $40 so you and a few other people can save $14? I really must be a stupid ****ing American because that makes no sense to me, unless you're incredibly entitled.
I'll stop here because I'm not trying to totally muddy up the thread. I felt the need to explain myself clearly, though, because apparently asking questions about putting iso/numpad in a separate kit triggers some people quite violently.
I'm just really excited for such a beautiful set and it would be nice to pay what I consider a more reasonable price for it. Also, thanks for making that feedback form, much appreciated.
And a ****ty suggestion at that. It's pretty stupid to feel so entitled that you think you deserve to buy 2 base kits at a lower price whilst forcing other users to pay more to just be able to fill 1 board they use.
You are correct, excluding is the wrong word in your example because it makes no ****ing sense. In the case of pushing ISO and numpad out into it's own kit is excluding if it does not make MOQ and does not get manufactured.
Looks really nice.
My only suggestions so far would be to remove Numpad and ISO from base. :thumb:
I agree. Recent sets have proven it's much more of a total financial burden on the majority that don't use it and pay for it than it is for the few that use to pay for it as an extra kit. The difference in price between people that don't use it and pay for it is noticeably more (~30$) than the difference in price between getting it included vs buying a separate kit (~15-18)
Just my .02
Now this is an idea I can get behind.This set is beautiful! I'm in for sure.
Any chance of separating the numpad/iso off from the base kit? I have a feeling I'm already going to be shelling out a pretty penny for the extra kits I want, and any reduction in price on the base kit would be quite welcomed.
Im feelin this one too
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+1 no iso no numpad
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No ISO, and no numpad pls
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I'm european and couldn't care less about iso or numpad.
No iso and no numpad pls
To chime in with my stance on the ISO and numpad discussion, ISO is staying in either the base kit or included in a way that MOQ is possible to reach. The GMK Cafι's kit does not seem like a bad idea to me. I too believe that the numpad would reach MOQ even as a separate kit. No matter what solution is implemented or not, some people are still going to be dissatisfied with the decision. Every suggestion is being considered, but not everything is possible. Also, after the latest PayPal change about not getting the PayPal fees back anymore if refunded has an effect on offered kits as well.Are you still planning to offer an ortho kit?
In the meantime, enjoy some more TGR Jane V2 CE renders:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VDEbijj.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iuVAI7L.png)
Also voicing my wish for ISO UK - sad to see so many people advocating for its removal, though I understand their viewpoint. If numpad is split I'll be buying it anyway - perhaps a combined ISO/numpad kit like GMK Cafι's considering currently? (1.25u shift is in base for 40s coverage, but could be moved)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ysMEzSk.png)
Seems like one way to keep both sides happy, and it provides opportunity for full ISO UK coverage. Theoretically it'd mean the numpad and ISO users bolster it enough to get the kit to MOQ (or the numpad users carry us ISO users, depending how you look at it)
To chime in with my stance on the ISO and numpad discussion, ISO is staying in either the base kit or included in a way that MOQ is possible to reach. The GMK Cafι's kit does not seem like a bad idea to me. I too believe that the numpad would reach MOQ even as a separate kit. No matter what solution is implemented or not, some people are still going to be dissatisfied with the decision. Every suggestion is being considered, but not everything is possible. Also, after the latest PayPal change about not getting the PayPal fees back anymore if refunded has an effect on offered kits as well.
In the meantime, enjoy some more TGR Jane V2 CE renders:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VDEbijj.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iuVAI7L.png)
Beautiful set!
Is there any chance you could add a single 1.25u r3 tab key? This is the only key (with right profile, not legends) required for 40% keyboards and would be a huge boon for the base kit. I'd be happy with any r3 1.25u legend you want there honestly. Tab, ctrl, or enter are all fine.
Possible cuts to accommodate this key: r1 pg down, r3 home, mod or alpha colored r1 pipe keys, 1 of the r4 1u ctrl or alt keys (what layout uses 2x 1u ctrl or alt??).
To chime in with my stance on the ISO and numpad discussion, ISO is staying in either the base kit or included in a way that MOQ is possible to reach. The GMK Cafι's kit does not seem like a bad idea to me. I too believe that the numpad would reach MOQ even as a separate kit. No matter what solution is implemented or not, some people are still going to be dissatisfied with the decision. Every suggestion is being considered, but not everything is possible. Also, after the latest PayPal change about not getting the PayPal fees back anymore if refunded has an effect on offered kits as well.
In the meantime, enjoy some more TGR Jane V2 CE renders:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VDEbijj.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iuVAI7L.png)
Would nightmode's colors be identical to GMK BoW's colors?
on the highlight module, would you consider doing a R1 1u "Fn" key?
In the renders of the Jane V2 CE the F13 key is modifier colored, however, the only F13 in the kits you have rendered in the OP is an alpha colored one in the ERR! Module. I'm sure its just a little mix up, but I figured I'd point it out nonetheless.
so no 40s?
on the highlight module, would you consider doing a R1 1u "Fn" key?
R1? That's an odd row for a function key. Seems like an ERR░R█░▓▓▒░▒▓▒██RR█R!
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In the renders of the Jane V2 CE the F13 key is modifier colored, however, the only F13 in the kits you have rendered in the OP is an alpha colored one in the ERR! Module. I'm sure its just a little mix up, but I figured I'd point it out nonetheless.
Ah yes, I noticed it looks much better with a modifier color. I'm changing it, should have mentioned it earlier. :thumb:
Does DailyClack work for people in SEA?
Does DailyClack work for people in SEA?
on the highlight module, would you consider doing a R1 1u "Fn" key?
R1? That's an odd row for a function key. Seems like an ERR░R█░▓▓▒░▒▓▒██RR█R!
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If ISO did get bundled into numpad, would really appreciate the 3 keys needed to make it work with UK ISO. I'm sure all the other UK-based buyers would appreciate it too.Agreed with this :D
>Daily Clack
>Not zFrontier.
Oh come on now! :-X :-X :-X
I'm sorry some had problem with zFrontier, but free shipping is huge for this hobby, and zFrontier has good reputations among Asian buyers.
Let Daily Clack handle Australia if they want. Leave Asia to zFrontier.
>Daily Clack
>Not zFrontier.
Oh come on now! :-X :-X :-X
I'm sorry some had problem with zFrontier, but free shipping is huge for this hobby, and zFrontier has good reputations among Asian buyers.
Let Daily Clack handle Australia if they want. Leave Asia to zFrontier.
Free shipping just means they jack up their prices to cover it. It was cheaper for me to order DSA Scientific from TheKeyCompany and pay shipping from the US to Australia, than order it from ZFrontier with its free shipping.
>Daily Clack
>Not zFrontier.
Oh come on now! :-X :-X :-X
I'm sorry some had problem with zFrontier, but free shipping is huge for this hobby, and zFrontier has good reputations among Asian buyers.
Let Daily Clack handle Australia if they want. Leave Asia to zFrontier.
Free shipping just means they jack up their prices to cover it. It was cheaper for me to order DSA Scientific from TheKeyCompany and pay shipping from the US to Australia, than order it from ZFrontier with its free shipping.
Do read my previous comment on the total price with shipping with ZF vs daily clack. Yes, they jack up prices but still ends up cheaper
Surprised people want zF after their track record with buys
Yes.Surprised people want zF after their track record with buys
Honestly, this. Quite frankly, zFrontier has to be one of the worst vendors in this entire hobby in terms of communication and timeliness but then again that's to the west. Maybe it's better for people in Asia.
You can say the same about Daily Clack: Better for Australians. Worse for everyone else in SEA.>Daily Clack
>Not zFrontier.
Oh come on now! :-X :-X :-X
I'm sorry some had problem with zFrontier, but free shipping is huge for this hobby, and zFrontier has good reputations among Asian buyers.
Let Daily Clack handle Australia if they want. Leave Asia to zFrontier.
Free shipping just means they jack up their prices to cover it. It was cheaper for me to order DSA Scientific from TheKeyCompany and pay shipping from the US to Australia, than order it from ZFrontier with its free shipping.
Do read my previous comment on the total price with shipping with ZF vs daily clack. Yes, they jack up prices but still ends up cheaper
For some people. Not for everyone.
Maybe asked already, not sure. But it's hard for me to see which kind of "glow" especially the alpha's will have. Is it a grey? Is it a grey with a purple tone to it? Or a blue tone? Or brown-ish? I find it very hard to decipher what kind of grey it is.
When is this going to group buy anyway? Is Pikku still working on something for the set?Maybe asked already, not sure. But it's hard for me to see which kind of "glow" especially the alpha's will have. Is it a grey? Is it a grey with a purple tone to it? Or a blue tone? Or brown-ish? I find it very hard to decipher what kind of grey it is.
It's almost a blue grey if he's trying to match the IDE theme. https://draculatheme.com/sublime/ (or really any other applications previews) is gonna give a good idea on the colors I would think Pikku is going for here.
Do you happen to have any renders of the ERR module with the base kit? So far all of them have been with Nightmode, which is nice, but I'd like to see how well the red pairs with the colored mods.
Team Dracula, Nord can suck it.+1
-1Team Dracula, Nord can suck it.+1
> Initializing update ...When is this going to group buy anyway? Is Pikku still working on something for the set?Maybe asked already, not sure. But it's hard for me to see which kind of "glow" especially the alpha's will have. Is it a grey? Is it a grey with a purple tone to it? Or a blue tone? Or brown-ish? I find it very hard to decipher what kind of grey it is.It's almost a blue grey if he's trying to match the IDE theme. https://draculatheme.com/sublime/ (or really any other applications previews) is gonna give a good idea on the colors I would think Pikku is going for here.
Yes, the base colors are very dark grayish blue, to be matched to the theme colors. There isn't supposed to be a purple tone to them (however, if the colors look better with just a tiny bit of purple with samples later on, then some creative freedom might be used). I've been working very hard on overhauling my entire render setup to produce more accurate colors. There won't be any drastic difference really, just an improvement.
Here's a color comparison with other popular/similar GMK sets:
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├── The colors are represented as accurately as possible using the correct color codes, using neutral lighting.
└── The second version has a neutral background color instead of a stylized one for an even more accurate comparison, as perception of color is relative to the surroundings after all.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IO9sdzX.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bMmlYFp.png)Do you happen to have any renders of the ERR module with the base kit? So far all of them have been with Nightmode, which is nice, but I'd like to see how well the red pairs with the colored mods.
I can possibly do a render with said configuration at some point.
On another note, I'm still working on the 40's/ortho kit and it's coming soon. Stay tuned for more updates!
When you say neutral lighting, what kind of colour temperature do you have in mind?
Why not get both?-1Team Dracula, Nord can suck it.+1
This is such a beautiful set, would love some ISO UK support though, either in the base kit, in a NorDeUK or bundled in with the numpad. I don't really mind what way you do it, just as long as I don't have to use the dreaded ANSI-ISO blend. But saying that, this set is so good looking that I'll get it anyway, regardless of ISO support (which is a big deal for me cause I never get a set if there is no ISO UK support, that's just how good looking this set is).
That ERR! module is so cool.
Long shot question, is there any chance you would be willing to add an "ERROR" ISO enter to the ERR! kit or even adding it to a NorDeUK kit if you go that route?
This is such a beautiful set, would love some ISO UK support though, either in the base kit, in a NorDeUK or bundled in with the numpad. I don't really mind what way you do it, just as long as I don't have to use the dreaded ANSI-ISO blend. But saying that, this set is so good looking that I'll get it anyway, regardless of ISO support (which is a big deal for me cause I never get a set if there is no ISO UK support, that's just how good looking this set is).
That ERR! module is so cool.
Long shot question, is there any chance you would be willing to add an "ERROR" ISO enter to the ERR! kit or even adding it to a NorDeUK kit if you go that route?
I'm surprised to not see GMK Metropolis in the colour comparison -- it seems to fit that set of colours and was quite popular!
Modern dolch should also be I cluded in comparisons imo
I'm surprised to not see GMK Metropolis in the colour comparison -- it seems to fit that set of colours and was quite popular!Modern dolch should also be I cluded in comparisons imo
You got it!
What about Solarized Dark? Apology for late request. :p
What about Solarized Dark? Apology for late request. :p
Updated the last post. The comparison now includes GMK Solarized Dark as well.
not even try to reach MOQ with a NorDe kit? :(
Any idea when the GB for this will open?
We might be waiting a little bit longer since he has some stuff in todo to finish like adding 40's/ortho/split module, and possibly deskmat design.
The market for GBs is also pretty saturated at the moment so idk if there is much of a rush. Hopefully it won't take as long as Oblivion was in IC.
We might be waiting a little bit longer since he has some stuff in todo to finish like adding 40's/ortho/split module, and possibly deskmat design.
The market for GBs is also pretty saturated at the moment so idk if there is much of a rush. Hopefully it won't take as long as Oblivion was in IC.
Thanks, so maybe a couple of months? Just trying to plan out the hits to the wallet
I really hope thats not true. Theres a lot of buzz around this set and I can see it doing mizu numbers easy but not if its delayed that long :(sure as hell won't get mizu numbers if it dropped right now
I know, I meant on the first of july :))
not even try to reach MOQ with a NorDe kit? :(
Nothing is set in stone yet :)
Yeah the earliest I can see this running is August. No need to rush it, pretty sure it will sell well no matter what.
Hey pikku, could you consider adding a R4 1.25u caps lock? For those like me who swap control and caps lock keys (not sure how common it is though) :D.Pretty rare, but I second this :D
Hey pikku, could you consider adding a R4 1.25u caps lock? For those like me who swap control and caps lock keys (not sure how common it is though) :D.Pretty rare, but I second this :D
Hey pikku, could you consider adding a R4 1.25u caps lock? For those like me who swap control and caps lock keys (not sure how common it is though) :D.Pretty rare, but I second this :D
Maybe a non-error novelty set that might help with some rare keys? I need some odd keys in certain positions but would be happy with slightly ambiguous legend names / icons to fill these spots.
Also wouldnt mind if this just said lock as I dont use caps but would use that key for something else.
Hey pikku, could you consider adding a R4 1.25u caps lock? For those like me who swap control and caps lock keys (not sure how common it is though) :D.Pretty rare, but I second this :D
Maybe a non-error novelty set that might help with some rare keys? I need some odd keys in certain positions but would be happy with slightly ambiguous legend names / icons to fill these spots.
Also wouldnt mind if this just said lock as I dont use caps but would use that key for something else.
This seems highly unusual. Has any other recent GMK set include such key?
Kindly consider adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the base kit, as well as using Scroll and Num legends instead of Scroll↵Lock and Num↵Lock (also Caps instead of Caps↵Lock on the stepped key) for a clean, single-line look across the entire set. :)
Further, I don't think a 1.25u Menu key is all that useful consider removing it and just using the 1.25u Fn in its place? I believe that's what most recent GMK sets have been doing.
Also, those color comparison pics are super useful; thanks for those!
Kindly consider adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the base kit, as well as using Scroll and Num legends instead of Scroll↵Lock and Num↵Lock (also Caps instead of Caps↵Lock on the stepped key) for a clean, single-line look across the entire set. :)
Further, I don't think a 1.25u Menu key is all that useful consider removing it and just using the 1.25u Fn in its place? I believe that's what most recent GMK sets have been doing.
Also, those color comparison pics are super useful; thanks for those!
What keyboard needs r3 and r4 PgUp and PgDn?
What keyboard needs r3 and r4 PgUp and PgDn?Need is a strong word. But for many, R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn is the preferred layout for their 65%s especially if a split Backspace is involved too.
What keyboard needs r3 and r4 PgUp and PgDn?Need is a strong word. But for many, R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn is the preferred layout for their 65%s especially if a split Backspace is involved too.
And again I wonder, how many personal preference options are we going to give 65% before we offer 1 keycap for basic 40% in the base kit... There's already two different options for 65% users on that row I think that's plenty. You don't need to have r1/r2 and r2/r3 and r3/r4 pgup/pgdown I feel.What keyboard needs r3 and r4 PgUp and PgDn?Need is a strong word. But for many, R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn is the preferred layout for their 65%s — especially if a split Backspace is involved too.
What's driving this ask of R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn? It seems like pretty recent phenomenon.
I'm trying to understand if it's worthwhile to support that in addition to R2 PgUp and R3 PgDn which have been more or less baseline so far.
+1 for a deskmat for the set :) Would love an artisan of some sort as well!
What keyboard needs r3 and r4 PgUp and PgDn?Need is a strong word. But for many, R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn is the preferred layout for their 65%s especially if a split Backspace is involved too.
What's driving this ask of R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn? It seems like pretty recent phenomenon.
I'm trying to understand if it's worthwhile to support that in addition to R2 PgUp and R3 PgDn which have been more or less baseline so far.
What's driving this ask of R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn? It seems like pretty recent phenomenon.
I'm trying to understand if it's worthwhile to support that in addition to R2 PgUp and R3 PgDn which have been more or less baseline so far.
More people are getting more keyboards that use those keys, and want keycaps that fit their layout. Massdrop has sold 4,400 Alts so far; I wouldn't be surprised if that makes it the most common 65% out there now (it's either that or the Tada68). Anyone looking at GMK Dracula is probably also watching GMK Nord and GMK Oblivion V2, and both of those sets already include R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn in their kits.
It's a good thing then that the majority of 65% boards - perhaps all - can be reprogrammed to fit whatever layout you want.Unless the layout you want perhaps all layouts you may want use R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn.
It's a good thing then that the majority of 65% boards - perhaps all - can be reprogrammed to fit whatever layout you want.missing the point
It's a good thing then that the majority of 65% boards - perhaps all - can be reprogrammed to fit whatever layout you want.missing the point
It's a good thing then that the majority of 65% boards - perhaps all - can be reprogrammed to fit whatever layout you want.Unless the layout you want perhaps all layouts you may want use R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn.
Euphxenos made some excellent points in his reply.
I think nobody is asking for R2 and R3 because it is already supported
If we are going to look for keys to get rid of to make kits smaller I think there are some other candidates that definitely get less use like was mentioned above.
On my 75s I use 2/3 but on 65s I use 3/4.
I think nobody is asking for R2 and R3 because it is already supported
Right. I'm wondering aloud if R3, R4 is more popular now than R2, R3. By adding R3, R4 support, that would make 7 keys dedicated to PgUp and PgDn. It makes sense for some sets to cut this down when trying to keep the base set affordable.
> R1 1u Backspace — Not commonly used.
I'd think this gets used a lot in ortho layouts.
I would also like to know the chances of colevrak being supported. As an intellectual with an extremely high IQ, I use the superior layout of colemak, and would love to have caps in a set that supports the superior color scheme of my superior editor, emacsnot even try to reach MOQ with a NorDe kit? :(
Nothing is set in stone yet :)
any possiblility of a colevrak kit. not a big deal if it doesn't happen, i can always use the alphas from my oblivion kit.
Okay, split backspace then. -_-The convention for split backspace is for backspace to move to 1.5u r2, instead of the pipe key.
If we are going to look for keys to get rid of to make kits smaller I think there are some other candidates that definitely get less use like was mentioned above.
This makes sense. For 2/3 and/or 3/4, don't see status quo changing.On my 75s I use 2/3 but on 65s I use 3/4.
Off tangent, can you share why? This seems counter to easily move between different layouts. Curious about any ergonomic related reason as well.
Is no full ISO UK support definite then now? If so I will just join Oblivion instead.FYI, Oblivion v2 doesn't support ISO-UK either, unless you purchase the $85 international kit.
I'd be absolutely gutted if UK ISO support was removed.The base kit doesn't have full ISO-UK support.
I'd be absolutely gutted if UK ISO support was removed.Seconded, I love the look of this set but I don't buy sets without ISO UK.
Is no full ISO UK support definite then now? If so I will just join Oblivion instead.FYI, Oblivion v2 doesn't support ISO-UK either, unless you purchase the $85 international kit.I'd be absolutely gutted if UK ISO support was removed.The base kit doesn't have full ISO-UK support.
After so much discussion, let me clarify some things:
- R3 PgUp & R4 PgDn will be added to the Core Module.
- a 40's/ortho Module is definitely being added
- a NorDeUK Module will very likely be offered
- I'd love to offer a Colevrak Module as well, but that is not certain yet. Options are still being considered though.
More details and the new kits coming soon.
After so much discussion, let me clarify some things:
- R3 PgUp & R4 PgDn will be added to the Core Module.
- a 40's/ortho Module is definitely being added
- a NorDeUK Module will very likely be offered
- I'd love to offer a Colevrak Module as well, but that is not certain yet. Options are still being considered though.
More details and the new kits coming soon.
After so much discussion, let me clarify some things:
- R3 PgUp & R4 PgDn will be added to the Core Module.
- a 40's/ortho Module is definitely being added
- a NorDeUK Module will very likely be offered
- I'd love to offer a Colevrak Module as well, but that is not certain yet. Options are still being considered though.
More details and the new kits coming soon.
Happy Midsummer!
Dracula has everything needed for UK ISO except the 2, 3, and '@. 3 additional keys will have a negligible impact on price so I'm not sure why it is not included.
a 40's/ortho Module is definitely being added
a NorDeUK Module will very likely be offered
I'd love to offer a Colevrak Module as well, but that is not certain yet. Options are still being considered though.
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Nope, just a "keep the things the vast majority use, and move the things only the select few do to their respective kit(s)" thread.
If you arent willing to pay a little extra to fill a non-standard layout, get used to not always getting the keys you want/need in the base kit.
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Personally I'd love it if the missing ISO UK keys were added to the base kit as it would make Dracula an absolute no-brainer. I'm still leaning heavily towards joining the GB for a base kit even if it only includes some of the ISO UK keys but if they were all thrown into a separate expensive kit; the vast majority of which I don't need, it'd probably be a no. I imagine a lot of UK users would do the same.
Does that mean pikku has to include the keys I want...no. But this is an interest check thread and I'm expressing my interest on that basis.
God help this thread, the ISO mob has arrived to kick name and take ass.we a mob now boissss
I still have PTSD from PBT Sanctuarys IC where an ISO dude tried to gaslight everyone by claiming there are only 3 countries in the world which use ANSI.
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Personally I'd love it if the missing ISO UK keys were added to the base kit as it would make Dracula an absolute no-brainer. I'm still leaning heavily towards joining the GB for a base kit even if it only includes some of the ISO UK keys but if they were all thrown into a separate expensive kit; the vast majority of which I don't need, it'd probably be a no. I imagine a lot of UK users would do the same.
After so much discussion, let me clarify some things:
- a NorDeUK Module will very likely be offered
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Personally I'd love it if the missing ISO UK keys were added to the base kit as it would make Dracula an absolute no-brainer. I'm still leaning heavily towards joining the GB for a base kit even if it only includes some of the ISO UK keys but if they were all thrown into a separate expensive kit; the vast majority of which I don't need, it'd probably be a no. I imagine a lot of UK users would do the same.
You realize you made the same fallacy you described in the first sentence, right?
Why are you against having basic, neutral ISO compatibility in the base kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/02BzbXn.png)
Your ISO boards will be perfectly usable with just these four keys, and the rest (i.e. majority) of us who don't use ISO-UK won't be forced to pay extra for 5 more keys in every base kit. I think this solution is a great compromise. If you want to have matching legends for your international layout, purchase the international kit; the runner did say he would most likely be offering one. I don't think ISO-UK should be given priority over, say, ISO-DE, or any other popular ISO layout.
I agree with diorite on most of the other points he made.
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Personally I'd love it if the missing ISO UK keys were added to the base kit as it would make Dracula an absolute no-brainer. I'm still leaning heavily towards joining the GB for a base kit even if it only includes some of the ISO UK keys but if they were all thrown into a separate expensive kit; the vast majority of which I don't need, it'd probably be a no. I imagine a lot of UK users would do the same.
You realize you made the same fallacy you described in the first sentence, right?
Why are you against having basic, neutral ISO compatibility in the base kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/02BzbXn.png)
Your ISO boards will be perfectly usable with just these four keys, and the rest (i.e. majority) of us who don't use ISO-UK won't be forced to pay extra for 5 more keys in every base kit. I think this solution is a great compromise. If you want to have matching legends for your international layout, purchase the international kit; the runner did say he would most likely be offering one. I don't think ISO-UK should be given priority over, say, ISO-DE, or any other popular ISO layout.
I agree with diorite on most of the other points he made.
+1, and the same is true for 40% and ortho support. Ortho users literally need 0 extra support in the base kit, because there are always extra 1u keys. Meanwhile 40% users need at most 5 keys, if you're feeling generous you can give them 3, and even 1 key is enough to keep most users happy. On a nonstandard layout, getting the right legends is a luxury IMO.
Are we about to degenerate into one of those "keep the things I like and remove things I don't" threads?
Personally I'd love it if the missing ISO UK keys were added to the base kit as it would make Dracula an absolute no-brainer. I'm still leaning heavily towards joining the GB for a base kit even if it only includes some of the ISO UK keys but if they were all thrown into a separate expensive kit; the vast majority of which I don't need, it'd probably be a no. I imagine a lot of UK users would do the same.
You realize you made the same fallacy you described in the first sentence, right?
Why are you against having basic, neutral ISO compatibility in the base kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/02BzbXn.png)
Your ISO boards will be perfectly usable with just these four keys, and the rest (i.e. majority) of us who don't use ISO-UK won't be forced to pay extra for 5 more keys in every base kit. I think this solution is a great compromise. If you want to have matching legends for your international layout, purchase the international kit; the runner did say he would most likely be offering one. I don't think ISO-UK should be given priority over, say, ISO-DE, or any other popular ISO layout.
I agree with diorite on most of the other points he made.
Really looking forward to sticking this set on my latest build. What's the usual turnaround between a GB and the goods actually hitting doorsteps? Q4 feels so far away.
Really looking forward to sticking this set on my latest build. What's the usual turnaround between a GB and the goods actually hitting doorsteps? Q4 feels so far away.
Just curious if that stepped ERR! capslock key goint to be in the ERR kit?
Just curious if that stepped ERR! capslock key goint to be in the ERR kit?
Yes! ;)
Just curious if that stepped ERR! capslock key goint to be in the ERR kit?
Yes! ;)
standard caps lock as well?
Really really interested in this, only issue i have no is that it doesnt have an NorDeUK-Kit
After so much discussion, let me clarify some things:
- R3 PgUp & R4 PgDn will be added to the Core Module.
- a 40's/ortho Module is definitely being added
- a NorDeUK Module will very likely be offered
- I'd love to offer a Colevrak Module as well, but that is not certain yet. Options are still being considered though.
More details and the new kits coming soon.
Happy Midsummer!
Really really interested in this, only issue i have no is that it doesnt have an NorDeUK-Kit
Would love an ergo kit for this. If we get that and the proposed colevrak and nordeuk kits I'd be over the moon!
Edit a few days later: any chance you'd consider something like Oblivion V2's assembly kit? That could help appease all the crazy 40%ers and ergo users at the same time while making it easier to hit an MOQ (and I'd get the 4 R4 1.25u keys I need for my unigo66 but that's entirely besides the point...)
When and where is the group-buy? I want this key set!
+1 for a deskmat for the set :) Would love an artisan of some sort as well!Yeah like a Dracula head!
People who rice their OS would definitely love this :thumb:
say no to icon mod tyranny
say no to icon mod tyranny
No!!!
Is the r4 1u fn gonna be the cyan to match the shift or will it be the green?
I love this set! One suggestion I have is to make the mods text-only. While my personal opinion is that text-only mods are more aesthetically pleasing, I also think that it would better reflect the fact that this is a set based on code and text editors. I'd be curious to hear why the designer has gone for text + icon mods in the current design.
Is the r4 1u fn gonna be the cyan to match the shift or will it be the green?
The R4 1u Fn is going to be cyan, to match the 1.75u Shift it's usually paired with. I wanted to include a little Dracula green on the function keys, but then again the 1u Fn should also match the shift ...
Can we get a 2.25 ERR for enter as well? Would be a great option! Love the look of this set, looking forward to the GB for this.
Text+icon mods are not going anywhere. It's down to personal preference, as well as the fact that the colored modifier legends stand out more when using both text and icons.
Would love to see Rama x artisan that is one of the https://draculatheme.com icons!
Would love to see Rama x artisan that is one of the https://draculatheme.com icons!
I vote for the eyeball.
Another idea is the X inside a box (don't know what it's called), which is in the err module.
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3nahhh
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3Yes.
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
This will probably be my first GMK set, and although I dont use ISO or numpad Id prefer to pay for extra ISO keys than numpad with the base set.
But if the price isnt insanely high Ill probably buy it anyway. Need some dark caps!
EDIT: is there a more specific ETA than Q4 2019?
Google feedback form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe9lro9wlXdUvdMRxNv38SCqpYlBiKhc-nPggE_mYSpKfp5Dw/viewform?usp=sf_link), in case you missed it before.
Morning all, quick question.
Will the Standard Kit support WKL ? Or do i need to buy the additional Accent Kit ?
Ill be adding this kit to my WKL SKB60 when it arrives and the details i have states that i need a 7U space bar.
Sorry to be a pain but your help is much appreciated.
Any update on what month this is running?
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3Yes.
Even more so than ISO, 100%-layout users are the real vocal minority in this hobby.
Other than a few 1800 ones, how many GBs for 100%-layout kits have we had so far this year?
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
I am, never need a numpad!
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
Yes very much so. I've brought it up before, but silence from OP makes me think it's staying in.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.No.
Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3Yes.
Even more so than ISO, 100%-layout users are the real vocal minority in this hobby.
Other than a few 1800 ones, how many GBs for 100%-layout kits have we had so far this year?Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
I am, never need a numpad!Anyone keen on splitting the numpad from the basekit? :3
Yes very much so. I've brought it up before, but silence from OP makes me think it's staying in.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
... and you and your gatekeeping buddies are trying keep it that way?Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
Because ansi is most popular lol
... and you and your gatekeeping buddies are trying keep it that way?Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
Because ansi is most popular lol
Par for the course when the iso boys get riled up
You're not using the term gatekeeping correctly.
Gatekeeping is saying something like "You're not a real mechanical keyboard fan unless you use ANSI."
It has nothing to do with not making something.
Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
As a 40% ortho user, the ISO rant always seems hilarious to me. You guys dont see us demanding that 40% keys should be in the base kit, do you?Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
cause ISO+ compat struggles to hit MOQ normally so why should the average user have to pay for a region that can't even support themselves??
As a 40% ortho user, the ISO rant always seems hilarious to me. You guys dont see us demanding that 40% keys should be in the base kit, do you?Don't like to pay for couple of ISO keys? Design your own set and run it on your own. I don't see why the f**k should Finnish designer and German manufacturer cater to US/ANSI customers only.
Agreed, splitting numpad and ISO would be very appealing.
+1 to this :)
cause ISO+ compat struggles to hit MOQ normally so why should the average user have to pay for a region that can't even support themselves??
And were the ones who have no problem hitting MOQ (though admittedly rarely hitting a price break point).
Dude I know, were a small (heh) minority. No big deal.
Its the ISO peoples constant refusal of reality and ISO kit sales data that amuses me.
Vocal minority, indeed.
Dude I know, were a small (heh) minority. No big deal.
Its the ISO peoples constant refusal of reality and ISO kit sales data that amuses me.
Vocal minority, indeed.
Dude I know, were a small (heh) minority. No big deal.
Its the ISO peoples constant refusal of reality and ISO kit sales data that amuses me.
Vocal minority, indeed.
Dude I know, were a small (heh) minority. No big deal.
Its the ISO peoples constant refusal of reality and ISO kit sales data that amuses me.
Vocal minority, indeed.
ISO support in base kit in this GB is four keys. There are people who will not join the GB if this minimum support is not there in the base kit. You will never have sales data of these customers.
Four keys. How many keys does 40% require that are not in ansi layout?
Dude I know, were a small (heh) minority. No big deal.
Its the ISO peoples constant refusal of reality and ISO kit sales data that amuses me.
Vocal minority, indeed.
ISO support in base kit in this GB is four keys. There are people who will not join the GB if this minimum support is not there in the base kit. You will never have sales data of these customers.
Four keys. How many keys does 40% require that are not in ansi layout?
If they took iso out and those people didnt join because of it, it wouldnt really matter. The set will sell no matter what.
ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
It has nothing to do with how well ANSI users financial situation are. It's about not wanting keys that the Majority will never use.ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
Until the hobby grows, ISO users do need support. We're a small but not insignificant part of the mechanical keyboard community. There's a big scene outside of US/China where'll you'll find lots of ISO boards. Spending power is probably around 20% of what ANSI is right now though (at most), and when sets don't do ISO properly a lot of people just don't join those GBs in favour of sets that do.
I think a $4 price increase (people in the UK community have talked to GMK about this) is worth it for 20% of the community. If you can't afford a $4 price increase, then maybe a hobby where spending $150+ on plastic is a frequent thing isn't for you?
ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
Until the hobby grows, ISO users do need support. We're a small but not insignificant part of the mechanical keyboard community. There's a big scene outside of US/China where'll you'll find lots of ISO boards. Spending power is probably around 20% of what ANSI is right now though (at most), and when sets don't do ISO properly a lot of people just don't join those GBs in favour of sets that do.
I think a $4 price increase (people in the UK community have talked to GMK about this) is worth it for 20% of the community. If you can't afford a $4 price increase, then maybe a hobby where spending $150+ on plastic is a frequent thing isn't for you?
It has nothing to do with how well ANSI users financial situation are. It's about not wanting keys that the Majority will never use.ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
Until the hobby grows, ISO users do need support. We're a small but not insignificant part of the mechanical keyboard community. There's a big scene outside of US/China where'll you'll find lots of ISO boards. Spending power is probably around 20% of what ANSI is right now though (at most), and when sets don't do ISO properly a lot of people just don't join those GBs in favour of sets that do.
I think a $4 price increase (people in the UK community have talked to GMK about this) is worth it for 20% of the community. If you can't afford a $4 price increase, then maybe a hobby where spending $150+ on plastic is a frequent thing isn't for you?
It has nothing to do with how well ANSI users financial situation are. It's about not wanting keys that the Majority will never use.ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
Until the hobby grows, ISO users do need support. We're a small but not insignificant part of the mechanical keyboard community. There's a big scene outside of US/China where'll you'll find lots of ISO boards. Spending power is probably around 20% of what ANSI is right now though (at most), and when sets don't do ISO properly a lot of people just don't join those GBs in favour of sets that do.
I think a $4 price increase (people in the UK community have talked to GMK about this) is worth it for 20% of the community. If you can't afford a $4 price increase, then maybe a hobby where spending $150+ on plastic is a frequent thing isn't for you?
We all pay for keys we dont use though. Therell always be a bottom row you dont use, or an extra B, or 40s keys you dont use. So I dont really see the argument there. I know 80% of people wont use the ISO keys, but the same could be said about any layout you dont use. This hobby is built in preference, and making a B-line towards homogenising kits based on what the majority use benefits a lot of people a very small amount while making the set totally unusable for a not insignificant amount of people.
If its not that, and its not about cost, then what is it?
It has nothing to do with how well ANSI users financial situation are. It's about not wanting keys that the Majority will never use.ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
Until the hobby grows, ISO users do need support. We're a small but not insignificant part of the mechanical keyboard community. There's a big scene outside of US/China where'll you'll find lots of ISO boards. Spending power is probably around 20% of what ANSI is right now though (at most), and when sets don't do ISO properly a lot of people just don't join those GBs in favour of sets that do.
I think a $4 price increase (people in the UK community have talked to GMK about this) is worth it for 20% of the community. If you can't afford a $4 price increase, then maybe a hobby where spending $150+ on plastic is a frequent thing isn't for you?
We all pay for keys we dont use though. Therell always be a bottom row you dont use, or an extra B, or 40s keys you dont use. So I dont really see the argument there. I know 80% of people wont use the ISO keys, but the same could be said about any layout you dont use. This hobby is built in preference, and making a B-line towards homogenising kits based on what the majority use benefits a lot of people a very small amount while making the set totally unusable for a not insignificant amount of people.
If its not that, and its not about cost, then what is it?
Youre forgetting people want numpad out as well as iso.
Render with a Polycarbonate board pls? :D
This could easily be the keyset of the year, excited to buy basically all of the kits for this one.Agree 100%. Definately in.
Render with a Polycarbonate board pls? :D
this :D
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been really busy with work and personal stuff. Rest assured, everything is on track.
Info about new/updated kits and other exciting things coming soon!Render with a Polycarbonate board pls? :D
this :D
I was already working on that actually :) Here's a render preview:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iiAJSXD.jpg)
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
-5
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
-5
+6
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
-5
+6
+7
also consider the vim keys of Err! module to be red!
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
-5
+6
+7
also consider the vim keys of Err! module to be red!
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been really busy with work and personal stuff. Rest assured, everything is on track.
Info about new/updated kits and other exciting things coming soon!Render with a Polycarbonate board pls? :D
this :D
I was already working on that actually :) Here's a render preview:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iiAJSXD.jpg)
-12- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
-5
+6
+7
also consider the vim keys of Err! module to be red!
-11
- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!
Err-colored vim keys +1
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
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also consider the vim keys of Err! module to be red!
Red vim would be amazing, please consider.
-12- Consider using R5 as the bottom-row profile -- molds are available for different modifier sizes now, thanks to Carbon R2!-1
Any thoughts on this? I didn't see it responded to, but R5 mods are the new meta and I'd love to see this set with them.
+1
+II
-5
+6
+7
also consider the vim keys of Err! module to be red!
-11
It has nothing to do with how well ANSI users financial situation are. It's about not wanting keys that the Majority will never use.ISO user reporting for duty!
For those that are against ISO, what percentage of sales would ISO have to be for you to not complain about it? Just curious.
I'm just waiting for the day they can reach MOQ without vendors needing to do the heavy lifting
Until the hobby grows, ISO users do need support. We're a small but not insignificant part of the mechanical keyboard community. There's a big scene outside of US/China where'll you'll find lots of ISO boards. Spending power is probably around 20% of what ANSI is right now though (at most), and when sets don't do ISO properly a lot of people just don't join those GBs in favour of sets that do.
I think a $4 price increase (people in the UK community have talked to GMK about this) is worth it for 20% of the community. If you can't afford a $4 price increase, then maybe a hobby where spending $150+ on plastic is a frequent thing isn't for you?
We all pay for keys we dont use though. Therell always be a bottom row you dont use, or an extra B, or 40s keys you dont use. So I dont really see the argument there. I know 80% of people wont use the ISO keys, but the same could be said about any layout you dont use. This hobby is built in preference, and making a B-line towards homogenising kits based on what the majority use benefits a lot of people a very small amount while making the set totally unusable for a not insignificant amount of people.
If its not that, and its not about cost, then what is it?
Youre forgetting people want numpad out as well as iso.
Id settle for a numpad + UK-ISO kit like GMK Cafe to be honest. I think Id actually take that over US-ISO only in base! I think these are the sorts of compromises that work well for everyone ultimately.
any update about the 40% kit?
...c'monany update about the 40% kit?
Yes, the ████ Module is █ ███ ████. And more importantly, we finally have a release date. GMK Dracula is set to launch on █/█/██! How exciting!
But seriously though, updates coming soon.
ITS Q4 I CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER ;D
Probably the beginning of next month I bet. (October)
Any bets?
Sorry for the lack of updates, I've been really busy with work and personal stuff. Rest assured, everything is on track.
Info about new/updated kits and other exciting things coming soon!Render with a Polycarbonate board pls? :D
this :D
I was already working on that actually :) Here's a render preview:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iiAJSXD.jpg)
looks lovely!! I hope there will be an International / Norde KIT. if yes Im 100% on board :)
I did say October, didn't I? ;DITS Q4 I CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER ;D
Probably the beginning of next month I bet. (October)
Any bets?
Uuuuuh Q4 is Oct-Dec. September is end of Q3.
just noticed that the f13 in the renders is not the same as in the kit. is it going to be mod colored or alpha colored bc i prefer the mod color personally. could both be available?
just noticed that the f13 in the renders is not the same as in the kit. is it going to be mod colored or alpha colored bc i prefer the mod color personally. could both be available?
Just noticed this as well. I too prefer mod colored fwiw
Any proxy for Asia?Daily Clack should be covering Asia. IIRC they did it for SA Bliss, so they'll prob do it on this set too.
Any proxy for Asia?Daily Clack should be covering Asia. IIRC they did it for SA Bliss, so they'll prob do it on this set too.
Oh i see. Thx for replyingAny proxy for Asia?Daily Clack should be covering Asia. IIRC they did it for SA Bliss, so they'll prob do it on this set too.
I'm still in for a base kit and maybe an accent/err kit, but I was so hoping for a Colemak kit >_< I'd buy one of everything if there was (except norde)
This set looks amazing! Can't wait to have a set that matches my vs code theme!It'll fit just fine. Switches are not a problem for keycap compatibility 95% of the time, most people use MX style switches. The layout of the Anne Pro 2 is pretty standard too, so you should be able to get away with just the base kit.
Sorry, if this is a stuoid question, but I'm super new to mechanical keyboards. Would this set fit without issues on a Anne Pro 2 with Brown Cherry or Gateron switches?
Glad to see the 40s kit! Any chance at adding a 2u spacebar for planck/preonic users?
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Glad to see the 40s kit! Any chance at adding a 2u spacebar for planck/preonic users?
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I think there is a 2u spacebar, it's just labeled incorrectly as the first 2.25u spacebar
Looks amazing! Can't wait. Still any chance for a desk mat?
Gutted at the lack of ergo/colemak options, guess Oblivion will have to do for me. R2 when?
Gutted at the lack of ergo/colemak options, guess Oblivion will have to do for me. R2 when?
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Guess the dozen of us who need ergo keys will be waiting till Taro R2Gutted at the lack of ergo/colemak options, guess Oblivion will have to do for me. R2 when?
really want, at least, a blank ergo set. with 2x2u spacebars for boardwalk compatibility
> Updating proxies ...
> New proxy for Asia set to 'iLumkb' ...
▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ GB_INFO.txt ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
├── GB_vendors/
│ └── proxy_list/
│ ├── NA - Dixie Mech
│ ├── EU - Mykeyboard.eu
│ ├── Oceania - Daily Clack
│ └── Asia - iLumkb*NEW
└── GB_date/
└── Group Buy in October 4th [2019-10-04]
Any chance you will reconsider doing an R5 bottom-row?
Pretty please?
Any chance you will reconsider doing an R5 bottom-row?
Pretty please?
Please for the love of god.
A yes/no wouod be nice at least. But I can't see myself spending $100+ on any set without R5 at this point. Just feels so much better on a board with any angle of 8 degrees or more.
Any proxy for Asia?Daily Clack should be covering Asia. IIRC they did it for SA Bliss, so they'll prob do it on this set too.
Hey, that's correct, we'll be taking care of Australia and Asia. Just like our past Asia GBs, there'll be a discount code for free shipping or the option to upgrade to DHL. Also, I've got AliPay working now!
And, as usual, you can reach me here or on Discord @phatty#8888
Before we get this show on the road...
Can we just take a second to admire what a BEAUTIFUL and clear IC page this has become.
Its almost Like looking at another site page entirely.
Excited for this set as its grown on me a crazy amount these past few weeks.
the centered left and right arrows look weird without the centered down arrow
That might just be standard? I'm looking at my GMK Chocolatier right now and it has the same arrow set up.
the centered left and right arrows look weird without the centered down arrow
Looks like both up and down aren't centered like left and right in the renders. I assume they should be and it is just a mistake maybe?
the centered left and right arrows look weird without the centered down arrow
Looks like both up and down aren't centered like left and right in the renders. I assume they should be and it is just a mistake maybe?
Any idea what the deskmat will look like ?Nooooo! I've ordered so many deskmats so far this year if the make one for this set ill be tempted to get this one too.
Very interested in these kits. Is there an estimated price for each one?
I'm torn between this and GMK Firefly for a polycarb board. Any idea when this is estimated to ship out?
so this opens in 2 days... and we still don't have pricing?!?^^^^^
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It will go up when the buy goes up probably
I have the core set in my basket but I'm having a minor breakdown trying to justify buying the localisation kit :confused:
Hello, Dracula;Wait... were coleverak kits an option that were pushed to the wayside? Is it still a possibility to get coleverak support here? If it were included, I pinky promise to change my IDE's and terminals to dark theme instead of light theme :>
I'm stoked that this is running ;D
I invested in 3 base kits, 1 of every other kit, both rama caps, and both deskmats.
If ergo / ortho kits were available then I would invest in one of each or two assembly kits. If colevrak kits were available then I would invest in at-least 4 of them.
Obviously, I'm saying this because I want you to run ergo, ortho, and colevrak kits. I feel let down that you haven't, and I want to voice my support for them in-case you reconsider.
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PS: I can be blunt in writing sometimes. I'm not looking for an explanation or debate. And I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. I'm a huge fan of this project and I really appreciate what the designer, vendors, and everyone else involved is doing.
I have the core set in my basket but I'm having a minor breakdown trying to justify buying the localisation kit :confused:
go for it :)
Are the RAMA caps really Navy Enamel Fill? (as listed on dixiemech)
Hello, Dracula;
I'm stoked that this is running ;D
I invested in 3 base kits, 1 of every other kit, both rama caps, and both deskmats.
If ergo / ortho kits were available then I would invest in one of each or two assembly kits. If colevrak kits were available then I would invest in at-least 4 of them.
Obviously, I'm saying this because I want you to run ergo, ortho, and colevrak kits. I feel let down that you haven't, and I want to voice my support for them in-case you reconsider.
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PS: I can be blunt in writing sometimes. I'm not looking for an explanation or debate. And I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. I'm a huge fan of this project and I really appreciate what the designer, vendors, and everyone else involved is doing.
My first post on this forum and I'm already out $300.00 I can't tell if I'm having a good time or a bad time.
My first post on this forum and I'm already out $300.00 I can't tell if I'm having a good time or a bad time.
You'll find out in about six months ;)