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Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:11:13
Hello everyone,


This group buy is for a LZ CLS
for the Classic TKL

IC thread
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87184.0

Detail

Order deadline 2017-02-13  -> 2017-02-06

Order check 2017-02-13~02-15 -> 2017-02-07 ~ 02-09

Invoice start 2017-02-09

Payment deadline 2017-02-20

Production 12 ~ 16 weeks from 2017-02-20

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Order Check (https://goo.gl/YzVNFB)


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LZ CLS

Order Here

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Acrylic Diffuser for LZ CLS

Order Here


[attach=1]

Acrylic Diffuser order  ~ 2017-02-09
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Specifications:
Aluminum case
10 degree angled
Aluminum n Stainless steel Switch plate
Brass or STS Weight
Support 84 and 86/87 layout
ISO + ANSI
PCB:
TX87 TKL PCB
Fully Programmable
Full LED backlighting
Full SMT(pre-soldered Device, Diodes, Resistors)

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Case Colors:
Black
SILVER
GRAY


Switch Plate:
Alu (Silver)
STS (Stainless Steel)

Weight Plate:
Brass
STS (Stainless Steel)

Basic kit 1 set of include 1 pcb
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Additional Parts:
PCB Mount Cherry Stabz(1kit)
Extra PCB
Extra Switch plate
Extra Weight plate

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Price:(excluding paypal fees and shipping)

Basic kit : $447 (Case, Switch plate, Weight plate, PCB)


Shipping:
Different depending on Order Option
1 set(Box) of weights : about 4.0kg
EMS shipping Price (1set) with Tracking number
Asia : $40
EU, Canada : $73
Usa : $82

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The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787


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Sample (not yet anodizing)
Not 100 % same
[attach=1]

[attachimg=2]

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PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885

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2017-02-06
USB port - design modify
[attachimg=3]
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update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish.
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Shipping
2017-08-21
Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:44:01
not gonna lie, this is pretty basic design-wise

I'll probably get one anyways  :p


edit: nearing $550 after everything is said and done. decisions, decisions :dogethink:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Floody on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:45:41
Sitting this one out because of case color but this is shaping to be a real popular run
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: iArson on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:49:01
In for one in grey, can we change colors after the fact after we can see what they look like anodized?


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:51:03
Is the gray a blue-gray or a dark-gray?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: iArson on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:52:27
Is the gray a blue-gray or a dark-gray?
I think it's gunmetal like his previous ones.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Damonskv on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:53:38
form filed  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:56:43
Is the gray a blue-gray or a dark-gray?

around dark-gray
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: wodan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:59:06
Black WKL + Brass

Keep em coming
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Hako on Thu, 26 January 2017, 00:59:24
The form doesn't show up for me, is this already sold out?

I keep getting this message: 응답할 수 있는 기간이 아닙니다.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:02:20
Is there going to be a limit on how many kits are sold, or will you be taking all orders until Feb. 13th 2017?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: ntw on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:05:43
wew the price is a killer for me..
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:07:14
The form doesn't show up for me, is this already sold out?

I keep getting this message: 응답할 수 있는 기간이 아닙니다.

Could be a timezone thing

google translate says that it's not the time to respond

It's still the 25th where I am right now

edit: damonskv is also in russia, where its the 26th
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: nguyenkimtam on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:08:27
Doneee
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Hako on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:08:32
The form doesn't show up for me, is this already sold out?

I keep getting this message: 응답할 수 있는 기간이 아닙니다.

Could be a timezone thing

google translate says that it's not the time to respond

It's still the 25th where I am right now

Ah, same. I also live in California.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: familynight on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:10:29

Ah, same. I also live in California.

It sounds like you already figured it out, but it's going off your computer's time.  So, if you change your computer's clock, you're good to go.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Cocopah on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:12:19
Man, Seems pretty steep in price, but I still went all in.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Hako on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:14:23
The form doesn't show up for me, is this already sold out?

I keep getting this message: 응답할 수 있는 기간이 아닙니다.

Edit: For those of you who also have this problem, change your computer's time to 1/26 and reload the page
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: NoahNHP on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:16:00
Done!!! :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: ricyuyc on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:19:53
Filled.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:20:34
In for one in grey, can we change colors after the fact after we can see what they look like anodized?


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: mech0nly on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:20:55
sorry, can i pay in korean won?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kokokoy on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:22:50
There goes my budget for 2017!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 01:25:33
Good bye my direct deposit!
I'll miss you  :))

Filled.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Signature on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:08:52
This is just a blatant rip off of the 360c.

I'd be interested if you made something based on your own old designs like the LZ-GH or the LZ-SE!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: poolside on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:21:16
Will the stabs be genuine Cherry ones?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:23:05
This is just a blatant rip off of the 360c.

I'd be interested if you made something based on your own old designs like the LZ-GH or the LZ-SE!

Well the others demanded having the LZ CLS to purchase instead of his other designs hence this is what's available now.

Again if you are in the minority you just need to suck it up and move along and allow the others wanting this Design to buy it and enjoy a future manufactured LZ Keyboard.

What ever the chosen design the quality is way above anyone else's in the world today because he actually has access to Brilliant Manufacturers that really do 100% perfection in Aluminium, Stainless and Brass.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:24:35
Will the stabs be genuine Cherry ones?

ALWAYS, he is an authentic Cherry Individual  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: wodan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:27:23
This is just a blatant rip off of the 360c.
Are these the only two custom TKLs you know or did you miss the similarities many other custom TKLs have with this design and the 360c?

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Signature on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:30:43
This is just a blatant rip off of the 360c.
Are these the only two custom TKLs you know or did you miss the similarities many other custom TKLs have with this design and the 360c?
Oh, I've been vocal to the yuktsi board, but the newer boards atleast try to offer something new with the brass modelling or atleast some new features. Was actually pretty hyped about this since I thought Classic meant LZ's classic designs.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: wodan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:41:23
Oh, I've been vocal to the yuktsi board, but the newer boards atleast try to offer something new with the brass modelling or atleast some new features. Was actually pretty hyped about this since I thought Classic meant LZ's classic designs.

People have been begging for classic designs, this is a hommage to the LZ-FE. Please compare this design with the LZ-FE which predates the 360c design.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: luumii on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:48:37
Seriously can't wait for this. Been wanting to get another LZ board since I got my hands on a LZ-FE.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Signature on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:50:11
Oh, I've been vocal to the yuktsi board, but the newer boards atleast try to offer something new with the brass modelling or atleast some new features. Was actually pretty hyped about this since I thought Classic meant LZ's classic designs.

People have been begging for classic designs, this is a hommage to the LZ-FE. Please compare this design with the LZ-FE which predates the 360c design.
Tbh I don't see any striking similarities. LZ-FE is built on a different design.
(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/3f8268_8e0ac7a216eca2a8b655e444ffea0dd8.jpg_srz_675_440_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz)

Then compare to this:
(http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2330697/flags/LL)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Blackhawk on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:54:54
Submitted. thank you LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: wodan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:56:52
Tbh I don't see any striking similarities. LZ-FE is built on a different design.

Okay, let me recapture ...

You think the LZ-CLS is a ripoff of the 360c but you don't see "any striking similarities" with the LZ-FE?

Would you call the 360c an original design compared to the older LZ-FE?

Do you happen to have a OTD 360c and worry about the market value?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 26 January 2017, 02:59:30
Tbh I don't see any striking similarities. LZ-FE is built on a different design.

Okay, let me recapture ...

You think the LZ-CLS is a ripoff of the 360c but you don't see "any striking similarities" with the LZ-FE?

Would you call the 360c an original design compared to the older LZ-FE?

Do you happen to have a OTD 360c and worry about the market value?

theres no similarity between this and the 360c, but 456gt questionable. but theres only so many designs out there, I think LZ can make something that beats both in terms of quality

Besides 360c is no good
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Damonskv on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:15:28
Tbh I don't see any striking similarities. LZ-FE is built on a different design.

Okay, let me recapture ...

You think the LZ-CLS is a ripoff of the 360c but you don't see "any striking similarities" with the LZ-FE?

Would you call the 360c an original design compared to the older LZ-FE?

Do you happen to have a OTD 360c and worry about the market value?

theres no similarity between this and the 360c, but 456gt questionable. but theres only so many designs out there, I think LZ can make something that beats both in terms of quality

Besides 360c is no good
The design is most similar to the 456gt and jane ce (although it is possible to say that the angle is quite different, and the design of the brass weight)
With 360c I do not see any similarities, except that CLS is also a Korean TKL ;)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: cicada on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:16:57
Tbh I don't see any striking similarities. LZ-FE is built on a different design.

Okay, let me recapture ...

You think the LZ-CLS is a ripoff of the 360c but you don't see "any striking similarities" with the LZ-FE?

Would you call the 360c an original design compared to the older LZ-FE?

Do you happen to have a OTD 360c and worry about the market value?

theres no similarity between this and the 360c, but 456gt questionable. but theres only so many designs out there, I think LZ can make something that beats both in terms of quality

Besides 360c is no good

Definitely very similar to the 456gt or 356.2 with some minor differences. But then again, there's also plenty of boards with this kind of design, notably TGR and Matrix boards
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: henz on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:18:04
submitted, thanks
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:35:07
i think i got the order submittedfor a grey,wkl, brass and extra pcb. i should have added stabs too i guess
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LunarisDream on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:35:32
Please quit it with the drama. Even if this was an exact carbon copy of the design of another board, it's not like there are copyrights regarding them. It would be frowned upon, of course, but there can only be so many TKL designs.

And when something drastically different is made, like LZ Iron or TANK v2, most people pass because it's too radical for their tastes.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: wodan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:37:11

And when something drastically different is made, like LZ Iron or TANK v2, most people pass because it's too radical for their tastes.

Great point ... still waiting for LZ Signature!!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:37:46
Any chance for a LED diffuser option?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: meiosis on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:39:53
Please quit it with the drama. Even if this was an exact carbon copy of the design of another board, it's not like there are copyrights regarding them. It would be frowned upon, of course, but there can only be so many TKL designs.

And when something drastically different is made, like LZ Iron or TANK v2, most people pass because it's too radical for their tastes.

The exclusiveness and emphasis on original items has been holding the community back for too long, newer is better.

Let's build a wall around OTD and make them pay for it. /s
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:41:47
If i could buy an OTD i would. This is for something else. Move along.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: heinrich on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:45:18
Sometimes the classics are the best.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: nastrovje on Thu, 26 January 2017, 04:35:47
Oh man! I was actually looking for a classic TKL, but I have to pass with these colour choices nvm I gave in. I was hoping for either your signature red or some light blue (like that famous otd 356.2 <3 ) or something completely novel.

Regarding the drama. I think this should be kept to other threads and discussions as it only clogs up this thread and leaves a bad aftertaste for all people who are really interested. Maybe open a vent/rant thread where open discussion and critic is encouraged rather than making yourself seen in a bad light here.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: jerue on Thu, 26 January 2017, 08:06:17
Any thoughts about the 10 degree angle? Seems a touch high for me. Big difference compared to 8/9?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: mason on Thu, 26 January 2017, 08:46:16
Submitted. Hopefully my first WKL TKL
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:05:01
Filled out. WKL Silver. Goodbye money, I loved you. But I would be lying if I said I didn't lust after simple looking silver WKL board for the past half year so I had to bite.

As for the 10° angle, I am frequently switching between my Viper (11°), my Orion v2 (around 6-7° with the new feet) and my Realforce (I think about 8°?) and I am having no trouble with either of those. I would even go as far and say that the Viper is the most comfortable to use for me so I am really excited for the angle on this board.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: digi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:08:18
$82 to ship to Murica'.. OUCH :-X :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:23:31
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: iArson on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:24:58
Also could we get information on the screws or bolts being used.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: mike52787 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:52:36
I'm in for grey winkeyed with a brass weight. Looking forward to this. shipping to the US is ****ty though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:11:01
I'm in for grey winkeyed with a brass weight. Looking forward to this. shipping to the US is ****ty though.

Nice! I got the Black Winkey :D
I had to laugh when I saw your signature.. Topre=Nopre LMAOO
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:37:33
Hi LifeZ,

I messaged you about this, too but just wanted to let you know in case if you miss my message- can I add an extra PCB in my order please?
This will be my first custom keyboard and I'd like to have a spare PCB in case I mess it up (crossing my fingers).

So I'd have:

Black Winkey 86/87: Alu Switch Plate + Brass Weight Plate + 2 Cherry Stabz + 1 Extra PCB

Thanks a lot!!!!! :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: airs on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:39:10
Submitted! Thank you LZ.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Alexiz on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:41:42
Submitted! Very excited :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:55:48
$82 to ship to Murica'.. OUCH :-X :eek:

$45 to Asia   ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 26 January 2017, 16:32:14
$82 to ship to Murica'.. OUCH :-X :o

$45 to Asia   ;D

Yep, it's good living closer to Korea because that same price tag applies here to Convict Town  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: airs on Thu, 26 January 2017, 16:47:52
LZ, two questions:

1.) Will there be an acrylic layer and RGB underglow?

2.) Will the design include LED status indicators for caps lock, scroll lock, layer, etc?

Buying regardless of your answer to these questions :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: hpfalcon on Thu, 26 January 2017, 16:54:23
Hi LifeZ,

I messaged you about this, too but just wanted to let you know in case if you miss my message- can I add an extra PCB in my order please?
This will be my first custom keyboard and I'd like to have a spare PCB in case I mess it up (crossing my fingers).

So I'd have:

Black Winkey 86/87: Alu Switch Plate + Brass Weight Plate + 2 Cherry Stabz + 1 Extra PCB

Thanks a lot!!!!! :D

there is an option for extra parts (including pcb and plates) on the form
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:39:27
LZ, two questions:

1.) Will there be an acrylic layer and RGB underglow?

2.) Will the design include LED status indicators for caps lock, scroll lock, layer, etc?

Buying regardless of your answer to these questions :)

Same questions. Especially number 2. I didn't any of those on the picture  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:06:09
Hi LifeZ,

I messaged you about this, too but just wanted to let you know in case if you miss my message- can I add an extra PCB in my order please?
This will be my first custom keyboard and I'd like to have a spare PCB in case I mess it up (crossing my fingers).

So I'd have:

Black Winkey 86/87: Alu Switch Plate + Brass Weight Plate + 2 Cherry Stabz + 1 Extra PCB

Thanks a lot!!!!! :D

there is an option for extra parts (including pcb and plates) on the form

I already submitted the form. Can I just submit another one? This is my second GB, but first time trying to edit an option.  Is it usually understood to submit a few forms if you missed parts? I guess I could do that :D

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 26 January 2017, 20:32:52
Can someone elaborate on why the LZ TKL may be of higher quality than boards posted in IC with GB's looming? I'd like a TKL and fully understand the machining is of a high quality with LZ's boards but am curious as to some specifics from someone that can provide a comparison (specifically between perhaps Duck and TX boards as I have those or just general info). The premium isn't negligible but debating in my head as to whether it's worth it isn't helping without some insight.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Auxo on Thu, 26 January 2017, 21:41:40
Can someone elaborate on why the LZ TKL may be of higher quality than boards posted in IC with GB's looming? I'd like a TKL and fully understand the machining is of a high quality with LZ's boards but am curious as to some specifics from someone that can provide a comparison (specifically between perhaps Duck and TX boards as I have those or just general info). The premium isn't negligible but debating in my head as to whether it's worth it isn't helping without some insight.

Alongside top tier quality control and craftsmenship/design, it is also a pretty exclusive case. LZ is pretty OG and has a proven track record for insane quality among k.customs. this is from my limited knowledge of his works as I don't own anything (too expensive)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:01:22
I sent the order form. No confirmation?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: rustywok on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:44:37
Just submitted the form.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:11:54
Can someone elaborate on why the LZ TKL may be of higher quality than boards posted in IC with GB's looming? I'd like a TKL and fully understand the machining is of a high quality with LZ's boards but am curious as to some specifics from someone that can provide a comparison (specifically between perhaps Duck and TX boards as I have those or just general info). The premium isn't negligible but debating in my head as to whether it's worth it isn't helping without some insight.

Alongside top tier quality control and craftsmenship/design, it is also a pretty exclusive case. LZ is pretty OG and has a proven track record for insane quality among k.customs. this is from my limited knowledge of his works as I don't own anything (too expensive)

LZ is in TOTAL Control verses everywhere else where 3rd parties have to wait and put up with sub-standard manufacturing.  LZ has the names of the very best in Aluminium makers in Seoul as well as specialty manufacturers for other equipment.  Let's face it here, he has been doing this for a long time now so he knows what to achieve and what the Quality will be.

His version of Quality is up their with Rolls Royce, Bentley and other hand manufactured pieces of art that very few people will ever have a chance to own.  If you want the absolute BEST with no excuses, you ALWAYS buy an LZ keyboard from the Master himself.  If you have never received an LZ Keyboard before then you will be amazed at what will come to your front door, no matter where you live.

Also because he is in charge from start to finish you get his keyboard far quicker than anything from MassDrop or any other Group Buy organizer.  Once you go LZ everything else will just seem dull and boring within the Keyboard Universe.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:57:17
Can someone elaborate on why the LZ TKL may be of higher quality than boards posted in IC with GB's looming? I'd like a TKL and fully understand the machining is of a high quality with LZ's boards but am curious as to some specifics from someone that can provide a comparison (specifically between perhaps Duck and TX boards as I have those or just general info). The premium isn't negligible but debating in my head as to whether it's worth it isn't helping without some insight.

Alongside top tier quality control and craftsmenship/design, it is also a pretty exclusive case. LZ is pretty OG and has a proven track record for insane quality among k.customs. this is from my limited knowledge of his works as I don't own anything (too expensive)

LZ is in TOTAL Control verses everywhere else where 3rd parties have to wait and put up with sub-standard manufacturing.  LZ has the names of the very best in Aluminium makers in Seoul as well as specialty manufacturers for other equipment.  Let's face it here, he has been doing this for a long time now so he knows what to achieve and what the Quality will be.

His version of Quality is up their with Rolls Royce, Bentley and other hand manufactured pieces of art that very few people will ever have a chance to own.  If you want the absolute BEST with no excuses, you ALWAYS buy an LZ keyboard from the Master himself.  If you have never received an LZ Keyboard before then you will be amazed at what will come to your front door, no matter where you live.

Also because he is in charge from start to finish you get his keyboard far quicker than anything from MassDrop or any other Group Buy organizer.  Once you go LZ everything else will just seem dull and boring within the Keyboard Universe.

Wow, is LZ keyboard that good? I'm glad this will be my 2nd GB for custom keyboard, and the 1st Korean custom keyboard then! :)
I hear Duck's LightSaber v3 is coming soon, so look out for it if you're down for one I guess...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:29:51
Can someone elaborate on why the LZ TKL may be of higher quality than boards posted in IC with GB's looming? I'd like a TKL and fully understand the machining is of a high quality with LZ's boards but am curious as to some specifics from someone that can provide a comparison (specifically between perhaps Duck and TX boards as I have those or just general info). The premium isn't negligible but debating in my head as to whether it's worth it isn't helping without some insight.

Alongside top tier quality control and craftsmenship/design, it is also a pretty exclusive case. LZ is pretty OG and has a proven track record for insane quality among k.customs. this is from my limited knowledge of his works as I don't own anything (too expensive)

LZ is in TOTAL Control verses everywhere else where 3rd parties have to wait and put up with sub-standard manufacturing.  LZ has the names of the very best in Aluminium makers in Seoul as well as specialty manufacturers for other equipment.  Let's face it here, he has been doing this for a long time now so he knows what to achieve and what the Quality will be.

His version of Quality is up their with Rolls Royce, Bentley and other hand manufactured pieces of art that very few people will ever have a chance to own.  If you want the absolute BEST with no excuses, you ALWAYS buy an LZ keyboard from the Master himself.  If you have never received an LZ Keyboard before then you will be amazed at what will come to your front door, no matter where you live.

Also because he is in charge from start to finish you get his keyboard far quicker than anything from MassDrop or any other Group Buy organizer.  Once you go LZ everything else will just seem dull and boring within the Keyboard Universe.

Wow, is LZ keyboard that good? I'm glad this will be my 2nd GB for custom keyboard, and the 1st Korean custom keyboard then! :)
I hear Duck's LightSaber v3 is coming soon, so look out for it if you're down for one I guess...

You have to be on GH long enough to see Elrick complements (and exaggerates) every GB he is in..

Jokes aside though, I have had good experience with the three (SK, RE, SQ) LZ boards that I own. I have seen GH, SE and FE personally too and they are equally good. But to be fair, I haven't seen any board with bad enough quality that would actually bother me. The worst I have seen is the inconsistent anodization color of 360 corsa and the uneven anodization on kmac mini, and they don't bother me at all.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:33:33
LZ, two questions:

1.) Will there be an acrylic layer and RGB underglow?

2.) Will the design include LED status indicators for caps lock, scroll lock, layer, etc?

Buying regardless of your answer to these questions :)

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know

2. Sure. Use to switch led status Caps lock and scroll lock. Fn 3layer
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:35:27
Also could we get information on the screws or bolts being used.


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Use to bolt M3x6mm cross screw bolt
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 27 January 2017, 00:44:34
Can someone elaborate on why the LZ TKL may be of higher quality than boards posted in IC with GB's looming? I'd like a TKL and fully understand the machining is of a high quality with LZ's boards but am curious as to some specifics from someone that can provide a comparison (specifically between perhaps Duck and TX boards as I have those or just general info). The premium isn't negligible but debating in my head as to whether it's worth it isn't helping without some insight.

Alongside top tier quality control and craftsmenship/design, it is also a pretty exclusive case. LZ is pretty OG and has a proven track record for insane quality among k.customs. this is from my limited knowledge of his works as I don't own anything (too expensive)

LZ is in TOTAL Control verses everywhere else where 3rd parties have to wait and put up with sub-standard manufacturing.  LZ has the names of the very best in Aluminium makers in Seoul as well as specialty manufacturers for other equipment.  Let's face it here, he has been doing this for a long time now so he knows what to achieve and what the Quality will be.

His version of Quality is up their with Rolls Royce, Bentley and other hand manufactured pieces of art that very few people will ever have a chance to own.  If you want the absolute BEST with no excuses, you ALWAYS buy an LZ keyboard from the Master himself.  If you have never received an LZ Keyboard before then you will be amazed at what will come to your front door, no matter where you live.

Also because he is in charge from start to finish you get his keyboard far quicker than anything from MassDrop or any other Group Buy organizer.  Once you go LZ everything else will just seem dull and boring within the Keyboard Universe.

Wow, is LZ keyboard that good? I'm glad this will be my 2nd GB for custom keyboard, and the 1st Korean custom keyboard then! :)
I hear Duck's LightSaber v3 is coming soon, so look out for it if you're down for one I guess...

You have to be on GH long enough to see Elrick complements (and exaggerates) every GB he is in..

Jokes aside though, I have had good experience with the three (SK, RE, SQ) LZ boards that I own. I have seen GH, SE and FE personally too and they are equally good. But to be fair, I haven't seen any board with bad enough quality that would actually bother me. The worst I have seen is the inconsistent anodization color of 360 corsa and the uneven anodization on kmac mini, and they don't bother me at all.

Gotcha.  I never had any of LZ keyboards before as I just got into the whole "K"ustom keyboards world.  Looking forward to own one of these bad boys  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Kev on Fri, 27 January 2017, 02:28:05
Can someone please explain the difference between the options like:

Alu vs SS plate?
Brass vs SS weight?

I've also tried to google but I can't seem to find a definite on the angles of a Filco (or Ducky etc) in both the standard orientation or with the feet folded out.

I assume shipping to Australia is the same as Asia?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 27 January 2017, 02:40:20
Can someone please explain the difference between the options like:

Alu vs SS plate?
Brass vs SS weight?

I've also tried to google but I can't seem to find a definite on the angles of a Filco (or Ducky etc) in both the standard orientation or with the feet folded out.

I assume shipping to Australia is the same as Asia?

There's no major difference. More about personal preference/taste. For truly classic, go with alu plate and brass weight.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 27 January 2017, 04:27:34

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know


This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 27 January 2017, 08:04:20
His version of Quality is up their with Rolls Royce, Bentley and other hand manufactured pieces of art that very few people will ever have a chance to own.  If you want the absolute BEST with no excuses, you ALWAYS buy an LZ keyboard from the Master himself.  If you have never received an LZ Keyboard before then you will be amazed at what will come to your front door, no matter where you live.

Once you go LZ everything else will just seem dull and boring within the Keyboard Universe.

Hype Master in the house  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 27 January 2017, 08:34:27
His version of Quality is up their with Rolls Royce, Bentley and other hand manufactured pieces of art that very few people will ever have a chance to own.  If you want the absolute BEST with no excuses, you ALWAYS buy an LZ keyboard from the Master himself.  If you have never received an LZ Keyboard before then you will be amazed at what will come to your front door, no matter where you live.

Once you go LZ everything else will just seem dull and boring within the Keyboard Universe.

Hype Master in the house  :thumb:

I should have noted when he compared the quality of LZ keyboard to Rolls Royce!
Because I'm more of a Pagani Zonda or McLaren P1 kind of a guy for quality in performance in autosports.... lol jk

Extremely excited for the keyboard nonetheless.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: poolside on Fri, 27 January 2017, 14:19:13

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know


This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.

Does the PCB come with RGB LED modules on its underside? The OP only mentions presoldered diodes, resistors and micro-controller.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 27 January 2017, 15:11:47

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know


This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.

Does the PCB come with RGB LED modules on its underside? The OP only mentions presoldered diodes, resistors and micro-controller.

It's not mentioned (it actually is mentioned) but I think it's just a TX87 PCB though right?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: mike52787 on Fri, 27 January 2017, 15:16:55

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know


This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.

Does the PCB come with RGB LED modules on its underside? The OP only mentions presoldered diodes, resistors and micro-controller.

It's not mentioned but I think it's just a TX87 PCB though right?
Yeah, it says that it's a tx87 in the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: balotelli00 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 20:27:03
this might be going out of topic, but will there be a GB on 96 keys anytime soon?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: duzeyao on Sat, 28 January 2017, 20:33:49
It's a great choice for those who don't have a 456GT lol
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 28 January 2017, 21:42:03
It's a great choice for those who don't have a 456GT lol

Only put together far better.  Suspect this LZ model will also attain a far greater weight here as well.

You know the fanatics here on Geekhack, only custom made keyboards that weigh more than most generic GH heads will be worth owning  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: iArson on Sat, 28 January 2017, 21:42:19
I'm not sure if this was mentioned anywhere but where will LZs signature be on the board? I reached out to him about samples but maybe I'm misunderstanding, are the pictures shown all we will get until production?


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 28 January 2017, 22:13:20
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 28 January 2017, 22:42:47
weight difference is marginal since this has a continuous weight, but the angle is less, so there is less aluminum.  Unless you mean usb over a fixed cable, both are built fine.  And yeah this thing is 456GT 2.0

Yeah since every once in a while you will get someone posting that they are looking for a 456GT hence LZ is here, supplying it in an updated version.

Pity because his own designs where far more innovative looking because you will know that it was an original LZ Design just by how it sits on any desk.  Hope he isn't dissuaded from releasing far more different shaped keyboards because they will be unique and future enthusiast's shall be begging anyone to sell them that keyboard.

Always buy a keyboard that stands out otherwise it becomes another conservative venture done numerous time before, so there is nothing new to boast about.  Pity it will just sit with the "456GT tag" and not take the high ground of design because most don't want that.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: ninjadoc on Sun, 29 January 2017, 02:08:07
$82 to ship to Murica'.. OUCH :-X :eek:

From what I've been told we are the most expensive country to ship to or from. Sucks
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: balotelli00 on Sun, 29 January 2017, 05:33:22
Is it fully assembled?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 29 January 2017, 05:40:16
You have to source switches and keycaps yourself and assemble it. The PCB is pre-soldered though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 29 January 2017, 09:15:33
It's a great choice for those who don't have a 456GT lol

Only put together far better.  Suspect this LZ model will also attain a far greater weight here as well.

You know the fanatics here on Geekhack, only custom made keyboards that weigh more than most generic GH heads will be worth owning  :thumb: .

 LZ is good but saying it's definitively better than a Eungsam is pretty silly. Love the classic Elrick hyperbole.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LunarisDream on Sun, 29 January 2017, 09:22:59
$82 to ship to Murica'.. OUCH :-X :eek:

From what I've been told we are the most expensive country to ship to or from. Sucks

From my experience it's actually (just a bit) more to ship to Canada, so we've got that going for us.

Oh, and our lenient import laws that allow us to not pay duties for most of the stuff we buy overseas.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: dakuzo on Sun, 29 January 2017, 16:11:17
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 29 January 2017, 16:34:43
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: laughatpain on Sun, 29 January 2017, 16:35:07
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?
I've swapped a GON TKL pcb with a tx87 pcb in my tx87 board so i would assume it would be the same for this LZ board
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: dakuzo on Sun, 29 January 2017, 16:38:27
I've swapped a GON TKL pcb with a tx87 pcb in my tx87 board so i would assume it would be the same for this LZ board
The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Kev on Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:08:14

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know
Can someone please explain the difference between the options like:

Alu vs SS plate?
Brass vs SS weight?

I've also tried to google but I can't seem to find a definite on the angles of a Filco (or Ducky etc) in both the standard orientation or with the feet folded out.

I assume shipping to Australia is the same as Asia?

There's no major difference. More about personal preference/taste. For truly classic, go with alu plate and brass weight.




This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.

Thanks, I assume Brass would be heavier (slightly, it's generally denser than SS) anyone know about the general tilt angles?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:38:39
dumb question:  if i want an 86 key layout, the "Winkeyless" stabs option is the way to go, right?  i'm guessing that is the 7u set.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:44:38
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 29 January 2017, 19:47:21
dumb question:  if i want an 86 key layout, the "Winkeyless" stabs option is the way to go, right?  i'm guessing that is the 7u set.

what did the menu key do to you ?  :p

menu key worst key
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: DanB on Sun, 29 January 2017, 20:13:52
dumb question:  if i want an 86 key layout, the "Winkeyless" stabs option is the way to go, right?  i'm guessing that is the 7u set.

what did the menu key do to you ?  :p

menu key worst key

I have menu key remapped to a function key on any TKL or 60%

This buy is tempting me soo much. Time to see how long I last before I crack.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: arid_tare on Sun, 29 January 2017, 20:41:07
Entering into this GB under the [potentially mistaken] pretense that it will be the last keyboard I will purchase for a looooong time.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: nmur on Sun, 29 January 2017, 21:04:56
dumb question:  if i want an 86 key layout, the "Winkeyless" stabs option is the way to go, right?  i'm guessing that is the 7u set.
that's what I chose, for the same reason

I also put the request in the notes section at the end to make sure though
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 02:18:51
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?

The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate


TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 30 January 2017, 02:44:02
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?

The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate


TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.
Hi, why the deadline changed? Had already accumulated a sufficient number of orders?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 02:50:04
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?

The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate


TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.
Hi, why the deadline changed? Had already accumulated a sufficient number of orders?

Hi, I changed the deadline to more orders than I thought.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: iArson on Mon, 30 January 2017, 03:04:42
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?

The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate


TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.
Hi, why the deadline changed? Had already accumulated a sufficient number of orders?

Hi, I changed the deadline to more orders than I thought.

That being said, are you going to need payment sooner?

I asked a bit earlier but are we going to be able to see some samples of the colors prior to purchase?

Where will your signature be on the board?




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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 03:07:55
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?

The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate


TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.
Hi, why the deadline changed? Had already accumulated a sufficient number of orders?

Hi, I changed the deadline to more orders than I thought.

That being said, are you going to need payment sooner?

I asked a bit earlier but are we going to be able to see some samples of the colors prior to purchase?

Where will your signature be on the board?




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Payment deadline is don'n change.
signature is bottom case farside.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=87239.0;attach=158589;image
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 30 January 2017, 07:49:52
Hi, why the deadline changed? Had already accumulated a sufficient number of orders?

Hi, I changed the deadline to more orders than I thought.

Oh, ****!  So glad I read about the deadline change.

What are the chances that you would change it again?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: digi on Mon, 30 January 2017, 09:21:23
Does the shipping address on the group buy form have to be the same as my Paypal address?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 30 January 2017, 09:50:26
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 30 January 2017, 09:50:50
Would a GON Nerd TKL pcb fit in this kit?

The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate


TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.
Hi, why the deadline changed? Had already accumulated a sufficient number of orders?

Hi, I changed the deadline to more orders than I thought.

That being said, are you going to need payment sooner?

I asked a bit earlier but are we going to be able to see some samples of the colors prior to purchase?

Where will your signature be on the board?




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Payment deadline is don'n change.
signature is bottom case farside.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=87239.0;attach=158589;image

Hi LZ, when will you start sending out invoices?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 10:01:12


Hi LZ, when will you start sending out invoices?
[/quote]

Hi blackhawk
Invoice 2017-02-09 ~
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 30 January 2017, 10:34:29


Hi LZ, when will you start sending out invoices?

Hi blackhawk
Invoice 2017-02-09 ~
[/quote]
I wonder how many people want your new masterpiece at the moment? ;)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 30 January 2017, 10:37:15
Hi LZ, could we get a spreedsheet or a reminder of what we order exactly?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 10:40:00
Hi LZ, could we get a spreedsheet or a reminder of what we order exactly?
Hi. Sure
Order check 2017-02-07~09 spreedsheet share!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 30 January 2017, 10:58:30
Hi LZ, could we get a spreedsheet or a reminder of what we order exactly?
Hi. Sure
Order check 2017-02-07~09 spreedsheet share!

Okay thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: handcraftedbits on Mon, 30 January 2017, 12:01:46
I'm interested in this GB, but wondering if anyone has English documentation on how to use this JigOn software to program the KB?  The GUI seems a bit... baffling, to say the least.  Also, does anyone know if it's possible to program support for Mac function keys (i.e., Expose, Brightness, etc.)?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 30 January 2017, 12:04:44
I'm interested in this GB, but wondering if anyone has English documentation on how to use this JigOn software to program the KB?  The GUI seems a bit... baffling, to say the least.  Also, does anyone know if it's possible to program support for Mac function keys (i.e., Expose, Brightness, etc.)?

Hope this helps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: handcraftedbits on Mon, 30 January 2017, 12:43:54
Yes indeed, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: Floody on Mon, 30 January 2017, 12:52:23
Does the shipping address on the group buy form have to be the same as my Paypal address?

can't you add another address to your paypal?/
You can
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: digi on Mon, 30 January 2017, 13:24:17
Does the shipping address on the group buy form have to be the same as my Paypal address?

can't you add another address to your paypal?/
You can

Thanks for ruining my chances of talking myself out of this GB...I can't miss this one, looking forward to it!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: poolside on Mon, 30 January 2017, 16:52:21

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know


This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.

Does the PCB come with RGB LED modules on its underside? The OP only mentions presoldered diodes, resistors and micro-controller.

It's not mentioned but I think it's just a TX87 PCB though right?
Yeah, it says that it's a tx87 in the OP.

As the keyboard has no RGB underglow, will the supplied TX-87 PCB still come with underside RGB modules soldered? I am asking because my TX-84 board which has an aluminum bottom, and therefore no underglow, still came with a TX-87 PCB with RGB modules soldered in. If there is no acrylic diffuser, I would prefer the PCB to not have any of these RGB modules (even if they can be turned off).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 30 January 2017, 17:16:12

Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know


This would be cool if it worked out. At least having the option as I know some don't care for it.

Does the PCB come with RGB LED modules on its underside? The OP only mentions presoldered diodes, resistors and micro-controller.

It's not mentioned but I think it's just a TX87 PCB though right?
Yeah, it says that it's a tx87 in the OP.

As the keyboard has no RGB underglow, will the supplied TX-87 PCB still come with underside RGB modules soldered? I am asking because my TX-84 board which has an aluminum bottom, and therefore no underglow, still came with a TX-87 PCB with RGB modules soldered in. If there is no acrylic diffuser, I would prefer the PCB to not have any of these RGB modules (even if they can be turned off).

He said he will check if a diffuser will work. Personally, I'd just take whichever is cheapest if the diffuser doesn't work but I can't see why having them on there would be an issue. Though I do believe it was mentioned it would be presoldered with everything besides the SMD LED.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: boo on Mon, 30 January 2017, 17:39:28
Hi LZ,

Will the surface of the Aluminum treated? I prefer smooth Surface like TX series. Or will it have similar surface texture like the Ergo? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: zaerst on Mon, 30 January 2017, 19:23:20
How do I change my order? Just submit another form? I decided I want to be one of the cool kids after all, changing to winkeyless!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 30 January 2017, 19:28:57
How do I change my order? Just submit another form? I decided I want to be one of the cool kids after all, changing to winkeyless!

Good choice, I had LZ modify my order via PM. I'd give him a day or two to respond. Hes been pretty busy.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Mon, 30 January 2017, 21:43:06
Guys, should I buy this, or a set of nixies for my Jane?

I am ripping hair out over this :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 30 January 2017, 21:46:00
Guys, should I buy this, or a set of nixies for my Jane?

I am ripping hair out over this :(

CLS for sure, nixies come and go
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 30 January 2017, 21:47:31
Guys, should I buy this, or a set of nixies for my Jane?

I am ripping hair out over this :(

Don't bother with nixies, nothing's better than vintage Black.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 30 January 2017, 22:07:54
Hi
1. Acrylic plate is not applied. I test and let you know

2. Sure. Use to switch led status Caps lock and scroll lock. Fn 3layer

TX87 is smaller than A87. (layout iㄴ compatible)
CLS is just fit TX87 PCB.
I'll let you know after checking other pcb.

Any news regarding the acrylic layer and the compatibility with other PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 30 January 2017, 22:13:55
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 23:16:38


Hi LZ, when will you start sending out invoices?

Hi blackhawk
Invoice 2017-02-09 ~
I wonder how many people want your new masterpiece at the moment? ;)
[/quote]

about 65 over
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 23:22:13
Hi LZ,

Will the surface of the Aluminum treated? I prefer smooth Surface like TX series. Or will it have similar surface texture like the Ergo? Thanks!

I will release the samples soon.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 30 January 2017, 23:23:30
How do I change my order? Just submit another form? I decided I want to be one of the cool kids after all, changing to winkeyless!

You can order change, let me know.
last order winkey gray.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Mon, 30 January 2017, 23:38:07
Unrelated to the GB, but is there any way you came up with the name LifeZone over anything else?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: richym on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:20:48
First build,  can't wait
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:50:37
I just cracked. WKL grey.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: poolside on Tue, 31 January 2017, 17:39:23
Hi LZ,

Will the surface of the Aluminum treated? I prefer smooth Surface like TX series. Or will it have similar surface texture like the Ergo? Thanks!

I will release the samples soon.

We could use some samples. I am torn between gray winkey with 7u spacebar and wkl silver.  :-\
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 31 January 2017, 17:40:33
Hi LZ,

Will the surface of the Aluminum treated? I prefer smooth Surface like TX series. Or will it have similar surface texture like the Ergo? Thanks!

I will release the samples soon.



We could use some samples. I am torn between gray winkey with 7u spacebar and wkl silver.  :-\
WKL Silver my dude, it's a classic
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 31 January 2017, 18:07:59
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 31 January 2017, 18:35:42
WKL Silver my dude, it's a classic

WKL Silver unite !1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Tue, 31 January 2017, 19:32:38
I prefer grey or black as they go with more sets. Silver only really looks good with classic beige based sets IMO
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Kev on Tue, 31 January 2017, 20:57:43
Just submitted wew
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: digi on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:03:30
You guys are starting to make me reconsider Winkey...do I need it? I use it... but I want the cool-club look. :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: mech0nly on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:12:40
You guys are starting to make me reconsider Winkey...do I need it? I use it... but I want the cool-club look. :cool:
Just remap the winkey lol


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: digi on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:16:00
You guys are starting to make me reconsider Winkey...do I need it? I use it... but I want the cool-club look. :cool:
Just remap the winkey lol


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Ctrl+Esc, here we come..
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:35:04
I prefer grey or black as they go with more sets. Silver only really looks good with classic beige based sets IMO

Totally agree black and silver pair nicely with more sets, but beige + silver looks soo good. What more could you want?

You guys are starting to make me reconsider Winkey...do I need it? I use it... but I want the cool-club look. :cool:
Just remap the winkey lol


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Ctrl+Esc, here we come..

we got another one boys 8)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:39:46
I prefer grey or black as they go with more sets. Silver only really looks good with classic beige based sets IMO

Totally agree black and silver pair nicely with more sets, but beige + silver looks soo good. What more could you want?

You guys are starting to make me reconsider Winkey...do I need it? I use it... but I want the cool-club look. :cool:
Just remap the winkey lol


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Ctrl+Esc, here we come..

we got another one boys 8)

(http://i.imgur.com/oz1U2gC.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: nmur on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:42:13
i don't know how you guys function in Windows without the window key. it definitely looks nicer, but i thought that everyone was just using linux or something

i use win+E, win+M, win+R, win+number row key, win+arrow keys, win+prt scrn, and more on a day to day basis
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: mech0nly on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:46:06
I prefer grey or black as they go with more sets. Silver only really looks good with classic beige based sets IMO

Totally agree black and silver pair nicely with more sets, but beige + silver looks soo good. What more could you want?

You guys are starting to make me reconsider Winkey...do I need it? I use it... but I want the cool-club look. :cool:
Just remap the winkey lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ctrl+Esc, here we come..

we got another one boys 8)

I have gmk olivetti, but confused between gray and silver loool
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:49:13
i don't know how you guys function in Windows without the window key. it definitely looks nicer, but i thought that everyone was just using linux or something

i use win+E, win+M, win+R, win+number row key, win+arrow keys, win+prt scrn, and more on a day to day basis

Same here and although some people might think they can do without the Windows key with Ctrl + Esc, the functions you have mentioned are not that frequently used by "average" PC users so maybe that's why people think they will be fine lol

I'm willing to bet many people do not know what the combination of Win+(x) can do except for maybe Win+R which I would guess a lot of people know :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:00:32
i don't know how you guys function in Windows without the window key. it definitely looks nicer, but i thought that everyone was just using linux or something

i use win+E, win+M, win+R, win+number row key, win+arrow keys, win+prt scrn, and more on a day to day basis

Same here and although some people might think they can do without the Windows key with Ctrl + Esc, the functions you have mentioned are not that frequently used by "average" PC users so maybe that's why people think they will be fine lol

I'm willing to bet many people do not know what the combination of Win+(x) can do except for maybe Win+R which I would guess a lot of people know :D

Just remap the key, I personally never use right alt so that gets remapped to winkey (when necessary).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: nmur on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:12:48
i don't know how you guys function in Windows without the window key. it definitely looks nicer, but i thought that everyone was just using linux or something

i use win+E, win+M, win+R, win+number row key, win+arrow keys, win+prt scrn, and more on a day to day basis

Same here and although some people might think they can do without the Windows key with Ctrl + Esc, the functions you have mentioned are not that frequently used by "average" PC users so maybe that's why people think they will be fine lol

I'm willing to bet many people do not know what the combination of Win+(x) can do except for maybe Win+R which I would guess a lot of people know :D

Just remap the key, I personally never use right alt so that gets remapped to winkey (when necessary).

hm i guess that works. binding it to a two key combination is silly, but you're right in saying that right shift is pretty useless
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Hako on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:14:10
Ugh, I can't decide between WKL gray or silver...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:28:55
Hi LZ, is there a way to check what I ordered? Cos I forgot what colour I placed, only remembered the WKL and brass plates, not sure if I got any spares or things like that.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Kev on Tue, 31 January 2017, 22:53:34
i don't know how you guys function in Windows without the window key. it definitely looks nicer, but i thought that everyone was just using linux or something

i use win+E, win+M, win+R, win+number row key, win+arrow keys, win+prt scrn, and more on a day to day basis

Same here and although some people might think they can do without the Windows key with Ctrl + Esc, the functions you have mentioned are not that frequently used by "average" PC users so maybe that's why people think they will be fine lol

I'm willing to bet many people do not know what the combination of Win+(x) can do except for maybe Win+R which I would guess a lot of people know :D

I agree, but within a keyboard community I figure it would be pretty common knowledge, I think it's just a cool/trendy thing but whatever works for you. I need both L/R Win keys... win+e/r/d/l all day.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: maximm on Wed, 01 February 2017, 00:22:15
I tried remapping winkey to right ctrl and that worked fairly well.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Puree on Wed, 01 February 2017, 01:50:31
Ugh, I can't decide between WKL gray or silver...

take both  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 01 February 2017, 07:04:32
Due to my button mapping preferences I only have 3 Keys on the bottom row that I regularly use. Spacebar and both Alts. Then I usually put Win on left Ctrl and Fn on right Ctrl. Seems to be working well so far for me. Now just slap Ctrl on Caps Lock and you're done.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: axtran on Wed, 01 February 2017, 07:32:33
I've swapped a GON TKL pcb with a tx87 pcb in my tx87 board so i would assume it would be the same for this LZ board
The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate

Thanks!

Just wanted to let you know that the GON PCB isn't a direct fit with the last run of these LZ boards. Spacebar is flipped, wires will hit the plate, and there's some clearance issues at the USB port as well.

When comparing a "stricter" A87 PCB like the Leeku TX87:

Spacebar Stabilizer mounts are 180 degree rotated (the TX87 also sticks down a bit, and in reverse, doesn't fit a GON NerD case even if you factor in the USB orientation)
Right Shift stabilizer is also 180 degree rotated
USB port (default) on GON NerD TKL is on the bottom of the PCB (you will have to request one to be produced with it flipped upside down)

I don't know why people keep blindly saying it'll fit into everything out there :D I think I've only seen yuktsi and kin25 make the changes to their plates to accomodate both types of PCBs. The TX87 has HUGE stabilizer holes to accomodate both types of PCBs, and the TGR Jane has more subtle changes to its plate.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: poolside on Wed, 01 February 2017, 18:05:41
Hi LZ,

Will the surface of the Aluminum treated? I prefer smooth Surface like TX series. Or will it have similar surface texture like the Ergo? Thanks!

I will release the samples soon.

We could use some samples. I am torn between gray winkey with 7u spacebar and wkl silver.  :-\
WKL Silver my dude, it's a classic

I would get dark grey if you're not sure.  silver is kinda plain.

Thanks for your suggestions. Thinking hard about them. Basically, this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79269.msg2035614#msg2035614) (from hwood34):

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24128974883_7eaeb89fb3_o.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24128974883_7eaeb89fb3_o.jpg)

VS this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76964.msg2331670#msg2331670) (from Bevo):

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76964.0;attach=156682;image) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76964.0;attach=156682;image)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 01 February 2017, 18:12:55
Hi LZ,

Will the surface of the Aluminum treated? I prefer smooth Surface like TX series. Or will it have similar surface texture like the Ergo? Thanks!

I will release the samples soon.

We could use some samples. I am torn between gray winkey with 7u spacebar and wkl silver.  :-\
WKL Silver my dude, it's a classic

Show Image
I would get dark grey if you're not sure.  silver is kinda plain.

Thanks for your suggestions. Thinking hard about them. Basically, this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79269.msg2035614#msg2035614) (from hwood34):

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24128974883_7eaeb89fb3_o.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24128974883_7eaeb89fb3_o.jpg)


VS this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76964.msg2331670#msg2331670) (from Bevo):

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76964.0;attach=156682;image) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=76964.0;attach=156682;image)

this is the photo that motivated me to get silver
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2950/15473451482_3ec2feb306_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pzku3f)untitled-39 (https://flic.kr/p/pzku3f) by photekq-gh (https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 01 February 2017, 19:36:58
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:35:06
Me and ayylmaoman have had some disagreements in the past, but he is 100% right on this one. Grey goes with everything.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:36:27
I've owned the 360C, 356CL DGE, and several black boards.

Get dark grey...

Is Dark Gray much better than the black?
I originally put down for Black.. but at the same time I'm getting a Blackbird for myself in black so I'm now torn between Dark Gray and Black lol
First world problem here..
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:37:15
Me and ayylmaoman have had some disagreements in the past, but he is 100% right on this one. Grey goes with everything.

cmon guys don't make me reconsider my color choice
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:38:27
Me and ayylmaoman have had some disagreements in the past, but he is 100% right on this one. Grey goes with everything.

I wonder how the Black on this LZ CLS will look compared to Duck Blackbird.
Are they 2 different kind of Blacks?

I just wish I could see the color sample after anodizing to decide for 100%
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:45:29
I've owned the 360C, 356CL DGE, and several black boards.

Get dark grey...

Is Dark Gray much better than the black?
I originally put down for Black.. but at the same time I'm getting a Blackbird for myself in black so I'm now torn between Dark Gray and Black lol
First world problem here..

Meh, I've gotten other color boards and black just fits in too well with my speakers, monitor, monitor mount, and mouse. It also is just as neutral as grey and silver (thus these are the 3 colors offered). Silver looks good with contrasting dark colored sets and beige (imo). Grey and black also look good with many sets, just a preference I feel.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:54:08
I've owned the 360C, 356CL DGE, and several black boards.

Get dark grey...

Is Dark Gray much better than the black?
I originally put down for Black.. but at the same time I'm getting a Blackbird for myself in black so I'm now torn between Dark Gray and Black lol
First world problem here..

Meh, I've gotten other color boards and black just fits in too well with my speakers, monitor, monitor mount, and mouse. It also is just as neutral as grey and silver (thus these are the 3 colors offered). Silver looks good with contrasting dark colored sets and beige (imo). Grey and black also look good with many sets, just a preference I feel.

Right.  I initially thought about silver but I felt that it would stand out too much on my desk so that was a turn off.
If I had a money tree I would also have gone for the silver WKL.

For now.. I'm gonna stick with the black LZ-CLS :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:54:56
Buy both and resell the one you like less for the cost of the GB if not more.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Cocopah on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:55:24
Man, you guys are making me reconsider my choice of silver.  :-\
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:57:38
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:58:32
Now you are stuck with me doing that unless you give me your otd
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:59:42
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Wed, 01 February 2017, 23:08:47
Now you are stuck with me doing that unless you give me your otd

I'm not in the 456GT GB

Did you sell the pink one?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Kev on Wed, 01 February 2017, 23:10:18
Wonder how much a Vantablack case would be...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 01 February 2017, 23:41:46
Now you are stuck with me doing that unless you give me your otd

I'm not in the 456GT GB

By the way what's up with that 안젤로 루체티 lol
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 00:46:20
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 00:47:14
Now you are stuck with me doing that unless you give me your otd

I'm not in the 456GT GB

By the way what's up with that 안젤로 루체티 lol

it's my name in Hangul.

Koreaboo ;)


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 01:04:59
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 01:06:56
Now you are stuck with me doing that unless you give me your otd

I'm not in the 456GT GB

By the way what's up with that 안젤로 루체티 lol

it's my name in Hangul.

Koreaboo ;)


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just have a few good korean friends, I don't obsess over hentai or whatever
It is really funny but two of my Korean friends are basically weebs about Britain. I call them teaboos <3


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 02 February 2017, 03:47:00
I've swapped a GON TKL pcb with a tx87 pcb in my tx87 board so i would assume it would be the same for this LZ board
The TX87 PCB is A87 sized, so any other A87 sized will work too.  Meaning you could find the appropriate TKL A87 sized pcb's any of these will work

TX
Gon
PS2AVR
Alphas - alps with new plate

Thanks!

Just wanted to let you know that the GON PCB isn't a direct fit with the last run of these LZ boards. Spacebar is flipped, wires will hit the plate, and there's some clearance issues at the USB port as well.

When comparing a "stricter" A87 PCB like the Leeku TX87:

Spacebar Stabilizer mounts are 180 degree rotated (the TX87 also sticks down a bit, and in reverse, doesn't fit a GON NerD case even if you factor in the USB orientation)
Right Shift stabilizer is also 180 degree rotated
USB port (default) on GON NerD TKL is on the bottom of the PCB (you will have to request one to be produced with it flipped upside down)

I don't know why people keep blindly saying it'll fit into everything out there :D I think I've only seen yuktsi and kin25 make the changes to their plates to accomodate both types of PCBs. The TX87 has HUGE stabilizer holes to accomodate both types of PCBs, and the TGR Jane has more subtle changes to its plate.

Compatible PCB TEST
A87 = NO
A87 PS2AVR = NO
NERD = OK (Space bar stabilizer is no problem) bluetooth version is Incompatibility!!
Alphs = OK (alps with new plate)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 02 February 2017, 04:57:10
Hey LZ,

Will you declare a low value on the package customs declaration, so that we don't get taxed as hell?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:08:35
Hey LZ,

Will you declare a low value on the package customs declaration, so that we don't get taxed as hell?

Yes please! 35% import tax for anything over $45 in my place  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 02 February 2017, 09:21:13
*opens up the parcel and unpacks huge aluminum block with brass weight and PCB*

"why, of course this is only $30!"
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 09:26:16
*opens up the parcel and unpacks huge aluminum block with brass weight and PCB*

"why, of course this is only $30!"

Such a sh!tty old vintage keyboard.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 02 February 2017, 09:35:28
*opens up the parcel and unpacks huge aluminum block with brass weight and PCB*

"why, of course this is only $30!"

of course I won't put something under $45 to avoid all the payment for tax  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: arid_tare on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:36:07
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: wodan on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:44:02
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?

I don't think so.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:47:13
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?
Most Kustoms don't.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: airs on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:53:27
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?

No, and I think its a good thing - switches feel more stable.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:32:48
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?

No, and I think its a good thing - switches feel more stable.
Wait, I'll have to double check my kit, but I thought the LZ-FE plate allows switch top removal.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:39:38
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?

Yeah, not sure about the plates in this GB, but the plate for my LZ-FE kit does have the switch top removal cutouts.

(http://i.imgur.com/o9qHYW6l.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: arid_tare on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:45:51
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?

Yeah, not sure about the plates in this GB, but the plate for my LZ-FE kit does have the switch top removal cutouts.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/o9qHYW6l.jpg)


Yeah, I did some more looking around after I commented; looks like the SE also had the cutouts. It is not a deal breaker in the slightest for me if it doesn't have it. I was mainly just curious. 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: poolside on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:50:22
I didn't see it mentioned in the OP, but do LZ's plates usually allow for switch top removal?

The plate picture in the OP has no cutouts.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 02 February 2017, 19:21:18
Hey LZ,

Will you declare a low value on the package customs declaration, so that we don't get taxed as hell?

of course :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: iArson on Thu, 02 February 2017, 19:28:16
Hey LZ,

Will you declare a low value on the package customs declaration, so that we don't get taxed as hell?

of course :D
:thumb:

Any time estimate on samples?


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 02 February 2017, 19:36:19
Any update on if an acrylic insert will work?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Kev on Thu, 02 February 2017, 19:47:26
Can you do RGB LED back lighting or is the RGB just for the underglow?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:22:57
Any update on if an acrylic insert will work?

I will receive acrylic parts today.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:23:43
Can you do RGB LED back lighting or is the RGB just for the underglow?

just undergolw test.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:24:35
LZ, did my order go through, chrome crashed shortly after I hit submit.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:27:36
LZ, did my order go through, chrome crashed shortly after I hit submit.


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okay, In!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:30:35
LZ, did my order go through, chrome crashed shortly after I hit submit.


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okay, In!
WKL grey with a set of WKL stabs?


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:39:13
LZ, did my order go through, chrome crashed shortly after I hit submit.


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okay, In!
WKL grey with a set of WKL stabs?


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wkl gray
wkl stabz 2set
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: DanB on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:41:01
Perfect

(time to hunt down nixies)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 02 February 2017, 22:42:22
Any update on if an acrylic insert will work?

I will receive acrylic parts today.

Bueno, thanks for the updates sir.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 02 February 2017, 23:12:37
.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 23:35:04
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 02 February 2017, 23:45:32
LZ, can I change my plate from SS to brass? Danke!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 03 February 2017, 00:14:12
Any update on if an acrylic insert will work?

I will receive acrylic parts today.

I really hope this works out. Other than other color options, this was my most wanted feature.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 03 February 2017, 02:11:31
LZ, can I change my plate from SS to brass? Danke!
sry. i can't fine your order!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 03 February 2017, 02:47:32
Hey LZ,

Will you declare a low value on the package customs declaration, so that we don't get taxed as hell?

of course :D

That is why LZ is so loved here on Geekhack, helps you get your keyboard without the compulsory Government Tax Rapage  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 03 February 2017, 03:51:28
LZ, can I change my plate from SS to brass? Danke!
sry. i can't fine your order!

sent you a PM with my PP email  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 03 February 2017, 09:06:47
Will you put up an order sheet at some point so we can check our orders? And thanks for testing the acryllic diffuser!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: CornCha0s on Fri, 03 February 2017, 09:14:51
Will you put up an order sheet at some point so we can check our orders? And thanks for testing the acryllic diffuser!

Hi LZ, could we get a spreedsheet or a reminder of what we order exactly?
Hi. Sure
Order check 2017-02-07~09 spreedsheet share!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 03 February 2017, 09:20:02
Whoops, must have missed that. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: mason on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:00:26
I need to cancel my order  :( how can I do this?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: airs on Fri, 03 February 2017, 14:40:27
LZ, can you please verify my order is WKL Gray with STS Switch Plate and Brass Weight Plate?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: laminam on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:21:17
Any chance at more interesting anodization colors? Red? Blue? Green? etc

I've love options like Purple, Orange, and Pink! ;)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: rabbitfire on Fri, 03 February 2017, 21:03:43
Any update on if an acrylic insert will work?

I will receive acrylic parts today.

is LZ trying to add an acrylic part to the board?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 03 February 2017, 21:08:07
Any update on if an acrylic insert will work?

I will receive acrylic parts today.

is LZ trying to add an acrylic part to the board?

I really hope so
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:18:31
I need to cancel my order  :( how can I do this?
Your order cancel.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:19:21
LZ, can I change my plate from SS to brass? Danke!
changed
brass!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:21:23
LZ, can you please verify my order is WKL Gray with STS Switch Plate and Brass Weight Plate?
That's right!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:22:01
Any chance at more interesting anodization colors? Red? Blue? Green? etc

I've love options like Purple, Orange, and Pink! ;)
Sry, no more colours.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:38:33
Acrylic diffuser test!!

[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
[attachimg=3]
[attachimg=4]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: NoahNHP on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:47:54
Acrylic diffuser test!!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

awesome!  :eek: :p :p :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: mech0nly on Sat, 04 February 2017, 07:03:04
Acrylic diffuser test!!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

대박!


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 04 February 2017, 07:19:10
How much for one?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 04 February 2017, 07:55:59
LZ, can I change my plate from SS to brass? Danke!
changed
brass!

thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: sitch on Sat, 04 February 2017, 08:21:04
I would like to have the diffusal please!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: DanB on Sat, 04 February 2017, 08:26:23
I would like to have the diffusal please!
Same


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: iArson on Sat, 04 February 2017, 08:28:57
Is the diffuser optional? Any chance of a brass or ss diffuser


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: rabbitfire on Sat, 04 February 2017, 09:47:41
Acrylic diffuser test!!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Yes please! Looks great....  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Change order deadline
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 04 February 2017, 12:32:52
Acrylic diffuser test!!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

As long as it's optional.

I have no interest in a defused whatsoever.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: digi on Sat, 04 February 2017, 12:57:17
Acrylic diffuser test!!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

As long as it's optional.

I have no interest in a defused whatsoever.

I agree, I'm in this for the "classic tkl" look, plenty of other customs with diffusers/disco lights. Hopefully its just an option like  Curt said.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:00:11
I am after the classic look but I will probably pick one up anyway just in case. If it's not too expensive, that is.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: handcraftedbits on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:31:45
Wanted to chime in with another "this is optional, right?"  I have 0 desire for the diffuser.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:37:22
The prototype is assembled in the OP without a diffuser, so I think it's safe to assume that it is optional
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: CMYK on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:55:01
I like the option for the diffuser.  I messed up my form.  I thought I saved the url, but everything is blank.  How do you edit your form? 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sat, 04 February 2017, 14:03:36
The prototype is assembled in the OP without a diffuser, so I think it's safe to assume that it is optional

Ya but if you pretend like that info doesn't exist you get to complain about the diffuser, like a good hipster. I don't really plan to use it but I think it adds an element that maybe someday I'd like to use.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 04 February 2017, 14:15:03
The prototype is assembled in the OP without a diffuser, so I think it's safe to assume that it is optional

Ya but if you pretend like that info doesn't exist you get to complain about the diffuser, like a good hipster. I don't really plan to use it but I think it adds an element that maybe someday I'd like to use.

k
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 04 February 2017, 14:28:15
I like the option for the diffuser.  I messed up my form.  I thought I saved the url, but everything is blank.  How do you edit your form?

PM LZ to get your stuff changed
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: CMYK on Sat, 04 February 2017, 14:30:24
I guess I'll have to.  I thought there was a trick where you could go back and see what you selected.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: poolside on Sat, 04 February 2017, 14:37:30
LZ, can we get a picture of the prototype taken from above? I am wondering how sharp these corners are:
[attach=1]

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: zaerst on Sat, 04 February 2017, 17:20:35
Nice! Liking the diffuser!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:46:47
LZ, can we get a picture of the prototype taken from above? I am wondering how sharp these corners are:
(Attachment Link)

Right?
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:50:22
Acrylic Diffuser for LZ CLS

Order Here (https://goo.gl/bVEafQ)


[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:51:49
Acrylic Diffuser for LZ CLS

Order Here (https://goo.gl/bVEafQ)


(Attachment Link)

Am I looking at this correctly? $5 is really cheap
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:55:53
Silly question, but the aluminum parts are staying the same right? Meaning we can swap between diffuser and no diffuser easily?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:57:37
Silly question, but the aluminum parts are staying the same right? Meaning we can swap between diffuser and no diffuser easily?

yes.
aluminum parts are staying
and
swap between diffuser and no diffuser easily.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 04 February 2017, 21:58:47
Silly question, but the aluminum parts are staying the same right? Meaning we can swap between diffuser and no diffuser easily?

yes.
aluminum parts are staying
and
swap between diffuser and no diffuser easily.


 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

:ok_hand: :fire:

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 04 February 2017, 23:21:32
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: DanB on Sat, 04 February 2017, 23:24:07
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.
Yay fellow m******* (I saw you at the Boston meetup (I'm you bleed red on Reddit)


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 04 February 2017, 23:26:45
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.

in my experience, grey is the most versatile and works well with most keyset colorways.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 04 February 2017, 23:36:21
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.
Yay fellow m******* (I saw you at the Boston meetup (I'm you bleed red on Reddit)


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Heyo, good to see you on GH as well! Couldn't pass down an opportunity to own an LZ board. Looks like it's 65% and TKL season for me right now.

in my experience, grey is the most versatile and works well with most keyset colorways.

All three colors looked nice to me, but I was thinking of throwing OG Cherry dyesubs on this, and the gray spoke to me a bit more than black or silver. It was close, though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: trexous on Sun, 05 February 2017, 00:41:38
hey LZ can you check if my  order went through please? :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 05 February 2017, 00:47:55
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.

in my experience, grey is the most versatile and works well with most keyset colorways.

+1  I second this.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: WiNloSt on Sun, 05 February 2017, 01:32:38
I just submit my order for the silver one. I can't stand picking between gray and silver anymore, so I need to stop, lol.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 05 February 2017, 07:57:32
hey LZ can you check if my  order went through please? :)
your order
black wk
al plate
brass weight
wk stabz 1set
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -> Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: poolside on Sun, 05 February 2017, 09:20:17
LZ, can we get a picture of the prototype taken from above? I am wondering how sharp these corners are:
(Attachment Link)

Right?
(Attachment Link)

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Kev on Sun, 05 February 2017, 09:30:02
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: handcraftedbits on Sun, 05 February 2017, 10:02:33
Hi, can I get a quick order check?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order-&gt;Acrylic diffuser test done-&gt;Diffuser order
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 05 February 2017, 10:05:41
Maybe its the time to share the spreadsheet, LZ


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: poolside on Sun, 05 February 2017, 15:47:04
Is the deadline for order modifications the 6th or 9th?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order-&gt;Acrylic diffuser test done-&gt;Diffuser order
Post by: rabbitfire on Sun, 05 February 2017, 16:41:16
Maybe its the time to share the spreadsheet, LZ


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Agreed!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 05 February 2017, 17:55:05
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order-&gt;Acrylic diffuser test done-&gt;Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 05 February 2017, 18:04:59
Maybe its the time to share the spreadsheet, LZ


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Agreed!

Order check 2017-02-07 ~ 02-09 (korea time, tomorrow morning)
share the spreadsheet
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Kev on Sun, 05 February 2017, 18:34:46
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm

Thanks, do you mind giving the height (or thickness?) at the front and rear? Trying to sort out wrist wrests etc
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 05 February 2017, 21:07:36
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm

Thanks, do you mind giving the height (or thickness?) at the front and rear? Trying to sort out wrist wrests etc
about front 20.4, rear 43.8, 10 deg (without rubber bumpon, acrylic diffuser 2mm)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: DanB on Sun, 05 February 2017, 23:38:33
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm

Thanks, do you mind giving the height (or thickness?) at the front and rear? Trying to sort out wrist wrests etc
about front 20.4, rear 43.8, 10 deg (without rubber bumpon, acrylic diffuser 2mm)

Hey, have you thought about offering a strip of anodized aluminum in the same dimensions as the diffuser to add non-RGB flair?
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Damonskv on Sun, 05 February 2017, 23:48:01
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm

Thanks, do you mind giving the height (or thickness?) at the front and rear? Trying to sort out wrist wrests etc
about front 20.4, rear 43.8, 10 deg (without rubber bumpon, acrylic diffuser 2mm)

Hey, have you thought about offering a strip of anodized aluminum in the same dimensions as the diffuser to add non-RGB flair?
Why is it necessary? Just don't put the diffuser, lz even don't offered it initially
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 03:06:20
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm

Thanks, do you mind giving the height (or thickness?) at the front and rear? Trying to sort out wrist wrests etc
about front 20.4, rear 43.8, 10 deg (without rubber bumpon, acrylic diffuser 2mm)

Hey, have you thought about offering a strip of anodized aluminum in the same dimensions as the diffuser to add non-RGB flair?

I have no thought.
I tested to provide additional parts. You can choose.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 06 February 2017, 03:53:02
I'd be in for a strip of anodized aluminium that could add a touch of color!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: ricyuyc on Mon, 06 February 2017, 04:18:57
Does my order form submitted successfully and could I revise my optional parts after the list posted?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Kev on Mon, 06 February 2017, 04:28:07
Can I get a check too please LZ? I just ordered the diffuser too.Do you also have the case dimensions? Thanks!

case dimensions 357 * 134.6 mm

Thanks, do you mind giving the height (or thickness?) at the front and rear? Trying to sort out wrist wrests etc
about front 20.4, rear 43.8, 10 deg (without rubber bumpon, acrylic diffuser 2mm)

Thanks mate
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 05:20:59
Does my order form submitted successfully and could I revise my optional parts after the list posted?
Sure. Can be changed before invoicing.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 06 February 2017, 06:14:28
Hi LifeZ,

Could you please confirm my order?
I'd like to make sure mine went thorugh! :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: laden3 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 09:57:06
Could you please check my order as well.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: nmur on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:12:50
Could you please check my order as well.

Hi LifeZ,

Could you please confirm my order?
I'd like to make sure mine went thorugh! :)

Thank you!

just wait for the spreadsheet dudes
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: WiNloSt on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:34:17
Just some more questions.

I'm a little bit confused between LED back lighting and LED underglow.

Do this board support RGB LED on the switch like Ducky Shine RGB series?

Does underglow means installing some modules at the bottom side of the PCB? And if that's the case do we need to buy those LED modules ourselves?

Does the keyboard comes with any LED of some sort at all?

Thank you
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:36:27
Just some more questions.

I'm a little bit confused between LED back lighting and LED underglow.

Do this board support RGB LED on the switch like Ducky Shine RGB series?

Does underglow means installing some modules at the bottom side of the PCB? And if that's the case do we need to buy those LED modules ourselves?

Does the keyboard comes with any LED of some sort at all?

Thank you

Comes with rgb underglow

Does not come with rgb backlighting
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: digi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 17:56:33
Will I still be in the cool club if I go with Gateron blacks or do I need to hunt for nixies for 3 years? ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: nmur on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:00:48
Will I still be in the cool club if I go with Gateron blacks or do I need to hunt for nixies for 3 years? ;D

vintage black m8

EDIT: or maybe those new panda switches
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:01:47
Will I still be in the cool club if I go with Gateron blacks or do I need to hunt for nixies for 3 years? ;D

Gateron milk tops and black bottoms accomplish the same thing :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: airs on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:05:32
Gateron Yellows with spring of your choice and krytox.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:08:38
I am maybe going to put mx browns in it. Still need to do some testing with springs and lube. Always these decisions...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: digi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:09:57
Gateron Yellows with spring of your choice and krytox.

oOoOoOoOo...I've been out of the MX game for a hot minute, those might be the ones, I need to try some!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:36:48
=========================================


Order Check (https://goo.gl/YzVNFB)


=========================================

Please pm for your order change.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: odd on Mon, 06 February 2017, 18:49:26
I added a diffusser to my order, not sure if i have to do much else.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: nmur on Mon, 06 February 2017, 19:14:30
oh damn i didn't realise that shipping to australia would fall under the $70 region, i thought it would be under the $40 Asia region, ouchh
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:13:15
I added a diffusser to my order, not sure if i have to do much else.
okay
add diffuser
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:14:49
oh damn i didn't realise that shipping to australia would fall under the $70 region, i thought it would be under the $40 Asia region, ouchh
yes, ems is expencive
and cls package support by kin25.
Like TX series box.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: sitch on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:34:55
LZ, do you have poly carbonated switch films for sale?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: handcraftedbits on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:39:47
What is "PP fee"?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:41:37
What is "PP fee"?

Paypal invoice fee
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: digi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 21:42:58
What is "PP fee"?

(https://media.giphy.com/media/oeEFewBdn3b3y/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order-&gt;Acrylic diffuser test done-&gt;Diffuser order
Post by: DanB on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:07:46
LZ, do you have poly carbonated switch films for sale?
Kin has them $5 for ~100


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: ricyuyc on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:16:46
Sir, I desire to buy 1 set of basic kit (Grey color WKL case, ALU switch plate, STS weight plate & PCB)after consideration, kindly remove my extra parts.

Have to save more for another great keebs GB coming.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:35:31
Sir, I desire to buy 1 set of basic kit (Grey color WKL case, ALU switch plate, STS weight plate & PCB)after consideration, kindly remove my extra parts.

Have to save more for another great keebs GB coming.  ;)

okay
changed
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:37:14
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order -&gt; Acrylic diffuser test done.
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:39:09
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.
Yay fellow m******* (I saw you at the Boston meetup (I'm you bleed red on Reddit)


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Thanks for the help the other day, I'm kconfire on reddit lol
Can't wait for this beautiful keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order-&gt;Acrylic diffuser test done-&gt;Diffuser order
Post by: DanB on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:40:42
Slipped my order in before this closed. After agonizing over color, I'm at gray WKL...for now.
Yay fellow m******* (I saw you at the Boston meetup (I'm you bleed red on Reddit)


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Thanks for the help the other day, I'm kconfire on reddit lol
Can't wait for this beautiful keyboard.
I have this, a Jane and viper v2 coming

Someone hide my wallet before I go full endgame and make a titanium high profile custom.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: WiNloSt on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:44:08
Hi LZ, I just changed my mind, and want to change my order from silver to gray. The rest should be the same. :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 06 February 2017, 22:59:50
Hi LZ, I just changed my mind, and want to change my order from silver to gray. The rest should be the same. :D

your order is gray!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 06 February 2017, 23:02:24
LZ you're the man, thank you for hosting the GB!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 06 February 2017, 23:05:57
waiting to see my order in the spreadsheet, thank you LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: CMYK on Mon, 06 February 2017, 23:34:47
I'm excited how popular this GB is. 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: rustywok on Tue, 07 February 2017, 01:52:21
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

Thanks for breaking down the spreadsheet into another pattern, Cocopah. These are always fun.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: poolside on Tue, 07 February 2017, 01:57:06
LZ, could you please switch my order to WKL gray and remove my extra aluminum plate?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 07 February 2017, 02:01:27
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

Thanks for breaking down the spreadsheet into another pattern, Cocopah. These are always fun.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Hydrolithium on Tue, 07 February 2017, 09:24:22
Looks great!!
LZ back at it again with another classic!!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: rabbitfire on Tue, 07 February 2017, 09:35:00
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

anyone here has a picture of a GREY LZ? Wonder why Grey is top choice 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 09:38:51
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

anyone here has a picture of a GREY LZ? Wonder why Grey is top choice
I only have a picture of my LZ iron with a gray top. I really hope grey at cls will be the same.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/3b4450d65a0d5a3c5424d1df22aaa2e7.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:15:45
Wow, so many people are going for gray.

I'm not sure if my black should be changed to gray.... lolol

Gray was my 2nd choice, but I can only pick one...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:17:55
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

anyone here has a picture of a GREY LZ? Wonder why Grey is top choice
I only have a picture of my LZ iron with a gray top. I really hope grey at cls will be the same.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/3b4450d65a0d5a3c5424d1df22aaa2e7.jpg)


Wow- that looks blueish gray. What is the exact hue on that color?
I also want to see if anyone has the black and how it'd look like...

Do you have a closer up photo that shows the color gray better?
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:21:30
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

anyone here has a picture of a GREY LZ? Wonder why Grey is top choice
I only have a picture of my LZ iron with a gray top. I really hope grey at cls will be the same.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/3b4450d65a0d5a3c5424d1df22aaa2e7.jpg)


Wow- that looks blueish gray. What is the exact hue on that color?
I also want to see if anyone has the black and how it'd look like...

Do you have a closer up photo that shows the color gray better?
Thanks!

Why dont you see the samples that lz provided.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:23:09
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

anyone here has a picture of a GREY LZ? Wonder why Grey is top choice
I only have a picture of my LZ iron with a gray top. I really hope grey at cls will be the same.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/3b4450d65a0d5a3c5424d1df22aaa2e7.jpg)


Wow- that looks blueish gray. What is the exact hue on that color?
I also want to see if anyone has the black and how it'd look like...

Do you have a closer up photo that shows the color gray better?
Thanks!
No, I don't think there are shades of blue. Maybe it seems that way because of the blue base
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:29:56
I was curious what everyone's preference was, so I decided to break down the data. Heres my numbers.

LAYOUTCOLORPLATEWEIGHTCOUNT
WKLGRAYSTSBRASS18
WKLGRAYALUBRASS15
WKLBLACKSTSBRASS9
WKLGRAYALUSTS7
WKLSILVERALUBRASS7
WKLBLACKALUBRASS6
WKGRAYSTSBRASS4
WKBLACKALUBRASS4
WKSILVERALUBRASS4
WKLSILVERSTSBRASS3
WKGRAYALUBRASS3
WKLGRAYSTSSTS2
WKGRAYSTSSTS2
WKBLACKSTSBRASS2
WKBLACKSTSSTS2
WKLBLACKALUSTS1
WKLBLACKSTSSTS1
WKLSILVERSTSSTS1
WKGRAYALUSTS1

anyone here has a picture of a GREY LZ? Wonder why Grey is top choice
I only have a picture of my LZ iron with a gray top. I really hope grey at cls will be the same.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/3b4450d65a0d5a3c5424d1df22aaa2e7.jpg)


Wow- that looks blueish gray. What is the exact hue on that color?
I also want to see if anyone has the black and how it'd look like...

Do you have a closer up photo that shows the color gray better?
Thanks!

Why dont you see the samples that lz provided.

I would have but I believe he said those samples are not going to be 100% identical to actual samples with anodizing finished...
or will anodizing not affect how it looks?

Gray looks really good...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: digi on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:33:31
$53k! I need to start designing some custom keyboards!!!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:41:30
$53k! I need to start designing some custom keyboards!!!  :p
Ivan, is that you? ;)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: digi on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:42:54
$53k! I need to start designing some custom keyboards!!!  :p
Ivan, is that you? ;)

Yes it is me!
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:55:24
$53k! I need to start designing some custom keyboards!!!  :p
Ivan, is that you? ;)

Yes it is me!
Cool, I heard about your nomination on deskthority, congratulations!!!! But something forget. BHA ha ha
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: maximm on Tue, 07 February 2017, 12:04:21
Hey LZ, could I have an extra ALU plate please?
And one set of WK Stabs
And one more set of WKL Stabs

Thank you :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 07 February 2017, 12:58:16
Will the gray look like the one from the LZ ErGo: http://lzlife.tistory.com/category/LZ%20Edition/LZ%20ErGO%20TKL
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: mit97 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:44:20
Hey LZ, could you kindly remove the wkl stab set that I ordered, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:03:06
Hi LZ,

May I add an extra ALU switch plate as well?
Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: poolside on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:17:59
LZ, could you please switch my order to WKL gray and remove my extra aluminum plate?

Thank you LZ! :thumb:

May we request extra PCBs without underside RGB modules for other keyboards that have no underglow? I have the TX-84/87 keyboards with aluminum bottom from kin25 in mind.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 07 February 2017, 17:41:14
Hey LZ, could I have an extra ALU plate please?
And one set of WK Stabs
And one more set of WKL Stabs

Thank you :)
extra wk stabz 2set, wkl 1set and alu plate?
right?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 07 February 2017, 17:42:36
Hey LZ, could you kindly remove the wkl stab set that I ordered, thanks.
Changed
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 07 February 2017, 17:53:03
LZ, could you please switch my order to WKL gray and remove my extra aluminum plate?

Thank you LZ! :thumb:

May we request extra PCBs without underside RGB modules for other keyboards that have no underglow? I have the TX-84/87 keyboards with aluminum bottom from kin25 in mind.
Hey. All pcb are same.
It is manufactured in the same process.
If you do not want rgb, you can remove rgb # 1.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Kev on Tue, 07 February 2017, 18:58:59
oh damn i didn't realise that shipping to australia would fall under the $70 region, i thought it would be under the $40 Asia region, ouchh

Yeah I know right... I'm assuming this is USD as well :P
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order->Acrylic diffuser test done->Diffuser order
Post by: WiNloSt on Tue, 07 February 2017, 21:34:54
Hi LZ, I just changed my mind, and want to change my order from silver to gray. The rest should be the same. :D

your order is gray!

Hey LZ, I just want to make sure my change was applied, but I still see my order in the spreadsheet being silver WK.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: mech0nly on Tue, 07 February 2017, 21:40:48
I ordered 1 unit of diffuser
thanks LZ ^^


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 07 February 2017, 21:57:55
I ordered 1 unit of diffuser
thanks LZ ^^


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changed!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:15:23
LZ:  Can I please add 1 extra ALU plate to my order?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:23:06
LZ:  Can I please add 1 extra ALU plate to my order?

Thanks!
ADD!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: airs on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:25:54
How much is an extra PCB and switch plate?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:28:44
How much is an extra PCB and switch plate?
PCB : $57
Switch plate : $43
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Hydrolithium on Tue, 07 February 2017, 23:30:35
Hi LZ,
Please remove extra pcb from my order
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: maximm on Tue, 07 February 2017, 23:46:20
Hey LZ, could I have an extra ALU plate please?
And one set of WK Stabs
And one more set of WKL Stabs

Thank you :)
extra wk stabz 2set, wkl 1set and alu plate?
right?

Yes!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: airs on Tue, 07 February 2017, 23:52:38
Never mind
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 00:24:50
Hi LZ,
Please remove extra pcb from my order
Thanks!
Okay, changed
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: ramnes on Wed, 08 February 2017, 04:19:51
I wanted to order this week-end, didn't find the time, and now it's too late. :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: trexous on Wed, 08 February 2017, 04:44:54
hey lz can you change my order to WKL gray please? :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: WiNloSt on Wed, 08 February 2017, 06:09:53
Hi LZ, sorry to bother you again, but you change my order from silver WK to gray WKL. But I actually want gray WinKey. Could you please update again :P
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: digi on Wed, 08 February 2017, 12:59:06
Sorry if this has already been asked but what color is the PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 08 February 2017, 16:52:40
Most likely black I am guessing

(http://cdn.iguang.co/f8ab5a0b/201605/23/5742c108ba4cb.jpg_e600.jpg)


Image taken from here http://iguang.tw/u/4195295/article/606661.html
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:15:52
I wanted to order this week-end, didn't find the time, and now it's too late. :(
Plz, pm
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:18:02
hey lz can you change my order to WKL gray please? :)
changed!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:19:33
Sorry if this has already been asked but what color is the PCB?
black pcb
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:29:45
My head hurts with many order corrections. lol  :eek:

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: airs on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:31:53
LZ you are incredibly patient, thank you for doing this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:38:54
LZ CLS
Package sample
support by kin25 (Special Thanks)
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:40:32
LZ you are incredibly patient, thank you for doing this GB!
Thx, no worries

Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:47:04
화이팅 라이프존!


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 08 February 2017, 18:48:08
화이팅 라이브존!


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화이팅 라이브존! --> 화이팅 라이프존!
매니 땡스~!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Goon on Wed, 08 February 2017, 19:34:31
Hey LZ does the plate support switch top removal?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 08 February 2017, 19:47:01
LZ CLS
Package sample
support by kin25 (Special Thanks)
(Attachment Link)

oh wow, it comes with a real box and everything! :o

Hey LZ does the plate support switch top removal?

nope.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 08 February 2017, 20:56:20
My head hurts with many order corrections. lol  :eek:

I was actually thinking watching this thread that I'd never be able to do a GB with all these order changes haha.

Kin's packaging is on point. Very excited. I do appreciate the responsiveness.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: kin25 on Wed, 08 February 2017, 23:42:11
LZ CLS
Package sample
support by kin25 (Special Thanks)
(Attachment Link)

My pleasure. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Hydrolithium on Thu, 09 February 2017, 00:02:37
Last order correction i promise  ;D
Could you please add:
- 2x 7u WKL stabilizers
- 2x Diffusers
Thanks again for being so patient LZ!!! Love your work <3
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: sitch on Thu, 09 February 2017, 00:20:49
LZ could you add 1x WKL stab? thanks
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: familynight on Thu, 09 February 2017, 00:32:45
Could you add 2 wk stabs to my order?  I also just filled out the diffuser form to get one.  Thanks so much.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Kev on Thu, 09 February 2017, 01:28:27
Why is everyone adding extra stabs out of curiosity? You only need one set per KB right?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 09 February 2017, 01:33:51
Why is everyone adding extra stabs out of curiosity? You only need one set per KB right?
I don't have no idea.
maybe, spare stabz...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 09 February 2017, 04:56:56
My head hurts with many order corrections. lol  :o

Understand completely because everyone was sure when sending you the order and like in any restaurant they've changed their minds about the meal they are about to pay for.

This will happen when dealing with Geekhack Central, it happens with every Group Order here so be patient and let everyone know that if they consistently hold up the process by changing their minds they can expect lengthy delays, that should shut them up quickly  ;) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: haofu612 on Thu, 09 February 2017, 14:31:40
Why I didn't receive the PayPal invoice
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: CMYK on Thu, 09 February 2017, 14:37:01
Why I didn't receive the PayPal invoice

The invoicing starts today.  Considering how many orders there are, and order changes there were I wouldn't be surprised if no one has received an invoice atm.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: Troif on Thu, 09 February 2017, 14:51:21
GB finished? :(


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 09 February 2017, 17:47:38
Why I didn't receive the PayPal invoice
schedule check.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.0
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: NoahNHP on Thu, 09 February 2017, 17:58:16
hi LZ, do you have the final anodizing sample yet? i'm very excited for the gray :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Order check time
Post by: iArson on Thu, 09 February 2017, 17:59:02
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'd love to see what it looks like prior


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 09 February 2017, 18:27:48
Checking over my order, it looks right, then I saw my total after shipping and PP fees: $666.

Get thee behind me, Satan!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: airs on Thu, 09 February 2017, 18:30:59
Paid invoice, thanks LZ
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 09 February 2017, 18:44:11
Paid. As much as I hate this part, I love the part that comes next.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 09 February 2017, 18:49:32
Paid. As much as I hate this part, I love the part that comes next.

Yeah I love the wait too
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 09 February 2017, 19:30:00
Paid. As much as I hate this part, I love the part that comes next.

Yeah I love the wait too

Like waiting for a New Italian Sportscar, it is indeed worth the wait for a unique keyboard such as this  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Goon on Thu, 09 February 2017, 19:48:37
Paid time to play the waiting game :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 09 February 2017, 19:52:02
Like waiting for a New Italian Sportscar, it is indeed worth the wait for a unique keyboard such as this  :thumb: .

I know EXACTLY how it feels like to wait for an italian sports car! :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: familynight on Thu, 09 February 2017, 20:03:44
Paid.  Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Kev on Thu, 09 February 2017, 20:03:58
Paid and emailed, only just realized I need to change my Paypal address... thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: handcraftedbits on Thu, 09 February 2017, 20:21:20
Paid, more than an average person would spend on keyboards in their entire life :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: kenshinjeff on Thu, 09 February 2017, 21:02:48
Edit: Got it and paid. Thanks!

Hmn. I haven't gotten an invoice yet. Are they in batches?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 09 February 2017, 21:27:38
Paid  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: DanB on Thu, 09 February 2017, 22:16:56
I don't know why I am so happy mine is an even 575

Time to sell a few things and then pay it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: sitch on Thu, 09 February 2017, 22:25:10
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 10 February 2017, 00:33:59
-
add stabz 1 set  and re-invoice
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: sitch on Fri, 10 February 2017, 00:36:43
-
add stabz 1 set  and re-invoice

paid!

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Panzerhawx on Fri, 10 February 2017, 01:56:02
Hey LifeZ,

I forgot to add in an acrylic plate for my order. Is it still possible to be added in?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 10 February 2017, 02:11:46
Hey LifeZ,

I forgot to add in an acrylic plate for my order. Is it still possible to be added in?

okay. add
re-invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 10 February 2017, 02:31:31
Paid, now I just sit back and let the hype marinate. LZ is still modifying orders? This GB seems like a headache I wouldn't want to take on haha. I'm glad he did though.  :))
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: odd on Fri, 10 February 2017, 04:24:45
paid! :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: WiNloSt on Fri, 10 February 2017, 05:11:06
Paid !!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 10 February 2017, 05:11:35
I wanted to order this week-end, didn't find the time, and now it's too late. :(
Plz, pm

PMd!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: nxtruong on Fri, 10 February 2017, 08:40:08
Paid time to play the waiting game :)

 good idea ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Fri, 10 February 2017, 16:48:10
Paid. Thank you for running this GB, LZ! :thumb:
And hyped for my first LZ board. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Blackhawk on Fri, 10 February 2017, 16:52:26
Paid. Cheers LZ
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: zaerst on Fri, 10 February 2017, 18:19:14
Paid. Ouch that hurt. lol
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 10 February 2017, 18:26:15
What have I done...
(https://redbranchmedia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/toomuch.gif)

but then i'm like... Paid.  ;D

(https://i0.wp.com/media.tumblr.com/45e8df38d29e9ab29e4541e8b99c184a/tumblr_inline_ml5igbkuLw1qz4rgp.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: mech0nly on Sat, 11 February 2017, 01:06:13
Paid! So hyped now lol
also looking forward to see the anodized one  :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rabbitfire on Sat, 11 February 2017, 09:54:45
Invoice paid! Waiting..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 12 February 2017, 00:21:44
Hello Gh.

Thanks for the LZ CLS GB in

So I'm preparing a small gift.

I want someone to design a signature for me.

I would like to use the picture phrase.

I hope it is simple.


[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Goon on Sun, 12 February 2017, 00:36:52
WOO Can't wait to see it !!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: CMYK on Sun, 12 February 2017, 01:20:14
Logo is very military like.  I wonder what it's for.


Also, I paid. Woo!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 12 February 2017, 01:22:20
looks like he's asking for someone to help design a logo for him using the words in the picture
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: CMYK on Sun, 12 February 2017, 01:24:59
looks like he's asking for someone to help design a logo for him using the words in the picture

He also mentioned a small gift.  I can't help but wonder what it is.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 12 February 2017, 01:26:45
looks like he's asking for someone to help design a logo for him using the words in the picture

i also think lz is looking for signature logo, not literally a signature
if logo, i can help  :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Sun, 12 February 2017, 04:26:30
Hello Gh.

Thanks for the LZ CLS GB in

So I'm preparing a small gift.

I want someone to design a signature for me.

I would like to use the picture phrase.

I hope it is simple.


(Attachment Link)

I am no designer, but I like the "LZ" logo. It looks refined.
Something like this:
[attachimg=1]
The "Limited" part could also be written using a nice script font:
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 12 February 2017, 06:23:43
Hello Gh.

Thanks for the LZ CLS GB in

So I'm preparing a small gift.

I want someone to design a signature for me.

I would like to use the picture phrase.

I hope it is simple.


(Attachment Link)

random try  :)

also here is my inspiration comes from :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 12 February 2017, 08:30:20
Edit: screw these scribbles. Have 3 ideas.

(http://i.imgur.com/AEbMhpO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rabbitfire on Sun, 12 February 2017, 08:52:12
Hello Gh.

Thanks for the LZ CLS GB in

So I'm preparing a small gift.

I want someone to design a signature for me.

I would like to use the picture phrase.

I hope it is simple.


(Attachment Link)

random try  :)

also here is my inspiration comes from :D

looks nice! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 12 February 2017, 13:48:21
Heres something off the top of my head. Its inspired by the LZ SE

(http://i.imgur.com/YYESccfb.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:19:00
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: digi on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:21:14
(Attachment Link)

dope
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: jal on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:22:28
One can say many things about that invoice, but no one may say, it wasn't an invoice. Oh my.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:33:56
(Attachment Link)

The L needs some wings!

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: digi on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:34:33
One can say many things about that invoice, but no one may say, it wasn't an invoice. Oh my.

It's just money...you'll make more later :P
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:39:23
Wait, LZ stands for Love Zone, right?  :p

(https://i.imgur.com/8iylGia.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Sun, 12 February 2017, 15:18:04
Some more MS Paint art:
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Blackhawk on Sun, 12 February 2017, 15:29:43
(http://i.imgur.com/n1G1XAc.png)

Some more

(http://i.imgur.com/KdEuzsr.png) (http://i.imgur.com/sPp8ZN0.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 12 February 2017, 15:41:54
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/n1G1XAc.png)


this one and alienman's are probably the best so far
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: kconfire on Sun, 12 February 2017, 16:00:50
Just an idea..[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 12 February 2017, 16:58:29
Heres another idea I had.

(http://i.imgur.com/7S40RHK.jpg)


Edit: "Enhance"
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 12 February 2017, 16:59:32
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 12 February 2017, 17:16:13
Heres another idea I had.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AftimFfb.jpg)


I like this one as well
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 12 February 2017, 17:20:06
2 more ideas that popped into my head.

(https://i.imgur.com/KoPm4Zc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/U9sVOCw.jpg)


EDIT: And a third one. My best one yet. :p :p

(http://i.imgur.com/QRYXV26.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 12 February 2017, 18:13:20
Wait, LZ stands for Love Zone, right?  :p

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8iylGia.jpg)

OMG~@@ :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: ricyuyc on Sun, 12 February 2017, 18:33:05
Edit: screw these scribbles. Have 3 ideas.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AEbMhpO.jpg)

I think the one at the top is great, it should make people thinking about keyboards or some other peripheral things
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: calavera on Sun, 12 February 2017, 20:30:25
Here's my contribution:

(http://i.imgur.com/TVhts18.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pHM43yW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/k7gq2HL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fJEoavK.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 12 February 2017, 21:19:29
some very rough sketch ideas for the LZ portion that i did between work:

(http://i.imgur.com/1EpRIFY.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: skaloola on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:41:34
these look a whole lot like the SS logo

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg/250px-Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:57:14
these look a whole lot like the SS logo

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg/250px-Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg.png)


Big difference between making a logo with an L and a Z and referencing a Nazi extermination squad. I don't really agree with bringing that up unless you are referencing a specific logo proposal.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: skaloola on Mon, 13 February 2017, 15:02:10
these look a whole lot like the SS logo

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg/250px-Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg.png)


Big difference between making a logo with an L and a Z and referencing a Nazi extermination squad. I don't really agree with bringing that up unless you are referencing a specific logo proposal.

uhh, what?  i was just making an observation that some of the logos people are posting look a whole lot like the SS logo.

i was surprised no one else noticed it.  i don't even understand your comment.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: cynviloq on Mon, 13 February 2017, 15:37:17
these look a whole lot like the SS logo

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg/250px-Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg.png)


Big difference between making a logo with an L and a Z and referencing a Nazi extermination squad. I don't really agree with bringing that up unless you are referencing a specific logo proposal.

uhh, what?  i was just making an observation that some of the logos people are posting look a whole lot like the SS logo.

i was surprised no one else noticed it.  i don't even understand your comment.

But...none of them look like the SS logo...the similarities are that people are mocking it up in black/white for simplicity and the letters have hard angles in them. I think most would agree that there is really no reason to bring up SS unless you thought there was a specific logo proposal that seemed related to the SS. Also, it could be construed as offensive to some to associate their work with the SS or SS-inspired.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: need on Mon, 13 February 2017, 15:52:07
(Attachment Link)

This really reminds me of the YSL logo.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: airs on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:00:04
I like these the best so far:

(http://i.imgur.com/pHM43yW.jpg)

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=87239.0;attach=160195;image)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:12:04
Well LZ, what's the logo for now? :p Production numbers + logo on the first X keyboards?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:06:12
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Kev on Mon, 13 February 2017, 20:19:36
Production numbers + logo on the first X keyboards?

Would love this! Some sort of customization would be cool to compete with the E8-V1 guys :P
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: limitz on Mon, 13 February 2017, 20:30:31
Some of these look nice on paper/with multiple colors - but the same logo might not translate well to CNC engraving. Just something to think about.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 13 February 2017, 21:05:49
......... ^-^

[attach=1]
[attach=2]
[attach=3]
made ms powerpoint.....lol
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 13 February 2017, 21:24:45
I feel like the letters should have the same thickness. Otherwise it makes the Z look a bit weird in my opinion. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: airs on Mon, 13 February 2017, 21:25:42
I feel like the letters should have the same thickness. Otherwise it makes the Z look a bit weird in my opinion. :)

Good call imo!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: hpfalcon on Mon, 13 February 2017, 22:20:06

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/k7gq2HL.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fJEoavK.jpg)


I like these two. Clean and simple ^-^

second one is kinda similar to LZ's
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 13 February 2017, 23:08:39
Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

(http://i.imgur.com/UJbRPbD.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/J3oA1D2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/M6FO0MX.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 13 February 2017, 23:12:39
Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/touVhgx.png)


Clean and beautiful. I like it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 14 February 2017, 03:05:16
One more before I go to bed, it might be a bit more complex.

(http://i.imgur.com/gNDinZZ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/xEgiF9u.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 14 February 2017, 06:43:28
Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6XDdSaQ.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/27q2u93.png)


I like this! Consider manually adjusting the kerning in "LIMITED" so that there is space between each letter, and I think this will look very nice.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rustywok on Tue, 14 February 2017, 09:59:47
Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6XDdSaQ.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/27q2u93.png)


I like this! Consider manually adjusting the kerning in "LIMITED" so that there is space between each letter, and I think this will look very nice.

I like this too. If I were commissioning this I'd ask to see the two options in slightly less bold type. 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Panzerhawx on Tue, 14 February 2017, 10:30:20
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this. 

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 14 February 2017, 10:35:47
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: digi on Tue, 14 February 2017, 10:49:41
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..

One thing to note for people in the U.S.A. since this is an international paypal invoice, if you use your credit card to pay the invoice they could hit you with an additional fee.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 14 February 2017, 10:50:54
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..

One thing to note for people in the U.S.A. since this is an international paypal invoice, if you use your credit card to pay the invoice they could hit you with an additional fee.

Oh damn, really? I had no idea.
With that said i'll resort to use my checking account for purchase then.

Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 14 February 2017, 11:46:31
Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6XDdSaQ.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/27q2u93.png)


I like this! Consider manually adjusting the kerning in "LIMITED" so that there is space between each letter, and I think this will look very nice.

(http://i.imgur.com/uCYDoDl.png)

Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6XDdSaQ.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/27q2u93.png)


I like this! Consider manually adjusting the kerning in "LIMITED" so that there is space between each letter, and I think this will look very nice.

I like this too. If I were commissioning this I'd ask to see the two options in slightly less bold type. 

(http://i.imgur.com/eeHLJYB.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Panzerhawx on Tue, 14 February 2017, 12:00:48
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..

One thing to note for people in the U.S.A. since this is an international paypal invoice, if you use your credit card to pay the invoice they could hit you with an additional fee.

Oh damn, really? I had no idea.
With that said i'll resort to use my checking account for purchase then.

Thanks for the heads up.


No. I was using my checking account. NOT my card.
And it STILL doesn't work.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 14 February 2017, 12:05:04
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..

One thing to note for people in the U.S.A. since this is an international paypal invoice, if you use your credit card to pay the invoice they could hit you with an additional fee.

Oh damn, really? I had no idea.
With that said i'll resort to use my checking account for purchase then.

Thanks for the heads up.


No. I was using my checking account. NOT my card.
And it STILL doesn't work.

This happened to me with an artisan purchase. I spent most of the day on the phone with paypal, my bank, and my credit cards. It apparently was an issue with the invoice itself. I ended up sending the payment directly to the artisan. Perhaps ask LZ if he could send another invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rustywok on Tue, 14 February 2017, 13:51:21
Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6XDdSaQ.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/27q2u93.png)


I like this! Consider manually adjusting the kerning in "LIMITED" so that there is space between each letter, and I think this will look very nice.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uCYDoDl.png)


Heres another try. If the keycap is too much let me know, I think its a nice touch.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0rOJmKU.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6XDdSaQ.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/27q2u93.png)


I like this! Consider manually adjusting the kerning in "LIMITED" so that there is space between each letter, and I think this will look very nice.

I like this too. If I were commissioning this I'd ask to see the two options in slightly less bold type. 

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eeHLJYB.png)


Nice. :thumb: Seeing the "slightly less bold" version leaves me unable to pick one. Both are pretty appealing in their own way. Good work @Cocopah! I'm glad I don't have to choose.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: need on Tue, 14 February 2017, 14:18:58
I prefer the classier font that's in LifeZ's profile pic, the above one looks like it's for sports apparel.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rabbitfire on Tue, 14 February 2017, 21:24:29
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..

paid my invoice using Paypal balance  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 15 February 2017, 08:00:34
Invoice paid.
Thank you!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: nxtruong on Wed, 15 February 2017, 11:32:23
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.


I was going to pay mine tomorrow but how are you trying to pay the invoice?
When people use PayPal they can either 1) Pay with Credit Card or 2) Pay from Checking/Savings Accounts if I remember correctly.

For me I'll be paying the invoice using the Credit Card, but is that what's preventing you from paying for the keyboard as well?
Hmmm..

paid my invoice using Paypal balance  ;)

First korean keyboard?  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 15 February 2017, 14:38:15
[attach=1][attach=2]

And my soul is officially sold.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 15 February 2017, 15:27:48
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

And my soul is officially sold.
Excellent choice )))
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: henz on Wed, 15 February 2017, 16:18:54
Rape the wallet thread! now king LZ has my monies
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Wed, 15 February 2017, 16:22:55
I prefer the classier font that's in LifeZ's profile pic, the above one looks like it's for sports apparel.

LZfanny & Co:

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: hpfalcon on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:09:54
I prefer the classier font that's in LifeZ's profile pic, the above one looks like it's for sports apparel.

LZfanny & Co:

(Attachment Link)

love it. But a little tall maybe? What if text was on the side?

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: DanB on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:10:35
Paid

Ouch
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: kenshinjeff on Wed, 15 February 2017, 22:16:28
Hey LZ,

I can't seem to pay the invoice on my end. It kept saying that "credit cards are not accepted for this payment", even though I'm using a bank account for it. I called into Paypal, and they said that the recipient's payment preferences are preventing me from paying this way. Could you check? I can't pay the invoice like this.

This happened to me as well, I'm in singapore my card currency is in SGD, I've never had any issues paying invoices and all in USD, but I couldn't pay for one of my artisan invoices as well. I called paypal and they told me the issue was because my card was registered in SGD and couldn't pay in USD (?????? Which was weird cos I use this card for all online purchases including amazon). Nonetheless, Paypal offered to change the default currency to USD and that worked. You might want to call in and check.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Hydrolithium on Thu, 16 February 2017, 04:58:15
Paid.
that was a huge hit to my wallet :/
Thanks for your patience!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: digi on Thu, 16 February 2017, 13:35:14
LZ, you should cnc the winners logo into all the brass/sts weights :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Thu, 16 February 2017, 14:18:11
I prefer the classier font that's in LifeZ's profile pic, the above one looks like it's for sports apparel.

LZfanny & Co:

(Attachment Link)

love it. But a little tall maybe? What if text was on the side?

(Attachment Link)

I prefer the taller one, but yeah it looks good too:

[attachimg=2]

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 16 February 2017, 16:12:47
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: digi on Thu, 16 February 2017, 17:22:21
LZ, you should cnc the winners logo into all the brass/sts weights :)

free kit too.. and licensing fees. 

The weight is already getting milled, the time to load the logo and drill it is next to nothing.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Thu, 16 February 2017, 20:57:42
Couple more ideas~

(http://i.imgur.com/GGwPZlN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fd8TIeo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/7Xz8jHb.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: PandaRooooong on Thu, 16 February 2017, 21:52:44
OMG
I miss this GB :confused:
Hope LZ will have a new GB after CLS GB :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 17 February 2017, 02:07:15
(http://i.imgur.com/hQmloRD.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/X87yS96.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rabbitfire on Fri, 17 February 2017, 05:21:20
OMG
I miss this GB :confused:
Hope LZ will have a new GB after CLS GB :thumb:

Of course, he will! Just when!  :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: luumii on Fri, 17 February 2017, 11:17:17
Can't wait paid!!! :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: mit97 on Fri, 17 February 2017, 11:33:49
Just paid! Can't wait.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: poolside on Fri, 17 February 2017, 13:36:14
Couple more ideas~

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/GGwPZlN.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Fd8TIeo.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7Xz8jHb.png)


Nice!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 17 February 2017, 21:11:11
One more tweak.

(http://i.imgur.com/RAgvwgk.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/6C5tXzd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/nd8fQ4u.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: digi on Fri, 17 February 2017, 21:25:30
One more tweak.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Bx5fZid.png)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WwAAEUc.png)


That is really nice!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 17 February 2017, 21:50:12
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 17 February 2017, 22:01:18
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Nice, can't wait to see the gray!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 17 February 2017, 22:16:57
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test



My pants!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: hanoipho on Sat, 18 February 2017, 05:18:03
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Silver looks great  :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: mech0nly on Sat, 18 February 2017, 05:37:03
So curious for gray color


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: ricyuyc on Sat, 18 February 2017, 08:36:48
I wish I have enough money to get both silver and grey CLS  :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 18 February 2017, 09:38:13
(http://i.imgur.com/sguUbw1.jpg)


?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rabbitfire on Sat, 18 February 2017, 11:55:08
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

hope I won't regret choosing silver instead of grey  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Sat, 18 February 2017, 12:23:41
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

hope I won't regret choosing silver instead of grey  :cool:

That silver looks great though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: luumii on Sun, 19 February 2017, 08:19:52
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

hope I won't regret choosing silver instead of grey  :cool:

That silver looks great though.

The silver looks a lot better than i expected... Is it too late to change?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Damonskv on Sun, 19 February 2017, 15:58:43
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 19 February 2017, 16:53:57
Very noice
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: beamingrobot on Sun, 19 February 2017, 17:13:41
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Holy... :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: ricyuyc on Sun, 19 February 2017, 18:22:15
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

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(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)

Great work and Take Care.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: airs on Sun, 19 February 2017, 18:39:53
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Incredible work, the best logo so far!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rustywok on Sun, 19 February 2017, 19:14:27
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment.

Sorry to hear that about your wife. That logo is pretty great.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 19 February 2017, 21:57:55
Paid finally .....

(http://i.giphy.com/YM6eJxjESA2Lm.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 19 February 2017, 23:07:15
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Amazing design, wow
Get well soon sir 😊
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: calavera on Mon, 20 February 2017, 00:18:46
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Winner right there. Personally I'd switch places so the L comes first. Right now Z is the first read.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 20 February 2017, 00:46:17
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Man, you whole family got sick?! When my kids get sick its like a war zone, I cant even imagine if we all got that sick. Hopefully you guys are feeling better! Your wife is definitely skilled. I would try to modify it a bit though, it looks like a couple logos I seen when I was trying to come up with ideas. Great renders though!  :thumb:

(https://logos.co/1024/royalty-free-clip-art-vector-logo-of-abstract-letter-z-designs-by-cidepix-6923.jpg)
(http://www.logospike.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Z_Logo_08.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 20 February 2017, 02:46:16
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Amazing design, wow
Get well soon sir 😊
Thanks )

I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


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(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Winner right there. Personally I'd switch places so the L comes first. Right now Z is the first read.

Yes, they are definitely worth the swap, just her now is not enough time, and this is the result of its first approach, when it is, I think, still do not quite understand what she needs to do))

I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Man, you whole family got sick?! When my kids get sick its like a war zone, I cant even imagine if we all got that sick. Hopefully you guys are feeling better! Your wife is definitely skilled. I would try to modify it a bit though, it looks like a couple logos I seen when I was trying to come up with ideas. Great renders though!  :thumb:

Show Image
(https://logos.co/1024/royalty-free-clip-art-vector-logo-of-abstract-letter-z-designs-by-cidepix-6923.jpg)

Show Image
(http://www.logospike.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Z_Logo_08.jpg)

Yes, my daughter brought some kind of virus. And during the day it took out me and the wife. Now everything is better, but everyone is late with their projects at work
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 20 February 2017, 08:07:12
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Incredible "something"! Take care.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 20 February 2017, 11:12:21
I asked my wife to try anything, but then we all family got sick and was in the hospital, she only had time to start doing something. I decided to upload first results, maybe someone will be inspired to bring the case to the end. Because of illness she developed a blockage at work and she won't be able to continue at the moment

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1epaFms.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/AasLYXZ.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Vur9nbt.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xTqr0by.jpg)


Amazing work, best one by far!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:41:12
Hmm that' black anodizing looks really good, still waiting to see the gray though~!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 22 February 2017, 10:17:40
It looks like 18 people out of 95 or so didn't pay or cancelled their orders- shame!!
I guess that means our LZ-CLS will worth a lot more than expected :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:11:18
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:16:15
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

Oh, my lust for a Stan is strong!!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:26:05
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x
I hope Lz-x is new 60%
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:41:22
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x
I hope Lz-x is new 60%

If that is the case I'm interested in knowing which PCB it will use.
Looking at that picture this design would only be possible with a PCB that has the USB port offset from the standard position. The mounting point is too far to the right for a usb port in the standard position and the USB cutout would collide with the plate there.
Or it's a 65% which is also possible since Linx3 teased his 65% and they could just do a bulk PCB order to save a few bucks.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 22 February 2017, 15:19:32
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

I noticed that also, and already asked.
He said it's  going to be a fc660m style case.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 22 February 2017, 15:22:37
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

I noticed that also, and already asked.
He said it's  going to be a fc660m style case.

Nice! I'd be interested in that.

Would love to see more colors than silver, gray, and black though.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 22 February 2017, 15:22:56
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

I noticed that also, and already asked.
He said it's  going to be a fc660m style case.
My hopes destroyed((((
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 22 February 2017, 15:25:42
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

I noticed that also, and already asked.
He said it's  going to be a fc660m style case.
My hopes destroyed((((
I was hoping for a regular 60% also.
Wish I could find a LZ-CE.

Also, wish he would consider doing a LZ-GH v2.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 22 February 2017, 15:35:48
LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

I noticed that also, and already asked.
He said it's  going to be a fc660m style case.
My hopes destroyed((((
I was hoping for a regular 60% also.
Wish I could find a LZ-CE.

Also, wish he would consider doing a LZ-GH v2.
I understand lz tries now not to repeat himself(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Wed, 22 February 2017, 16:56:22
It looks like 18 people out of 95 or so didn't pay or cancelled their orders- shame!!
I guess that means our LZ-CLS will worth a lot more than expected :D

Looking at the spreadsheet, I noticed that ALPS-compatible extras could be requested. Good to know for next time.

LZ-x??? :thinking: Also, seems like the Stan order has ended.... http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-Stan

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-x

I noticed that also, and already asked.
He said it's  going to be a fc660m style case.

This is interesting  :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Invoicing
Post by: rabbitfire on Sat, 25 February 2017, 10:22:58
anodizing test
silver n black
gray re-test

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

hope I won't regret choosing silver instead of grey  :cool:

That silver looks great though.

The silver looks a lot better than i expected... Is it too late to change?

LZ hasn't posted the grey yet. Too soon to conclude dude!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nastrovje on Tue, 28 February 2017, 14:31:21
No day passes without me thinking and dreaming about the board. How much longer?  :confused: 

Atleast this has stopped me from spending money on other stuff I don't need.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:11:05
No day passes without me thinking and dreaming about the board. How much longer?  :confused: 

Atleast this has stopped me from spending money on other stuff I don't need.



Lmao only 1 week into production out of 12-16 according to the first post...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:12:16
No day passes without me thinking and dreaming about the board. How much longer?  :confused: 

Atleast this has stopped me from spending money on other stuff I don't need.



Lmao only 1 week into production out of 12-16 according to the first post...

Bad sign when the madness sets in this early.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 28 February 2017, 15:14:20
1 month after the original dead line is when you can start to get concerned :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Kev on Tue, 28 February 2017, 22:38:03
No day passes without me thinking and dreaming about the board.

LIK DIS IF YOU CRY EVERTIM
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Tue, 28 February 2017, 23:19:24
No day passes without me thinking and dreaming about the board. How much longer?  :confused: 

Atleast this has stopped me from spending money on other stuff I don't need.

 completely forget about it! then one day, it will appear at your front door ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 28 February 2017, 23:22:54
No day passes without me thinking and dreaming about the board. How much longer?  :confused: 

Atleast this has stopped me from spending money on other stuff I don't need.

 completely forget about it! then one day, it will appear at your front door ;D

At least you'll hope it's still your front door. Because you forgot about it and decided you needed a bigger yard for the dog and moved across town. The bastard that moved into your former house found the package and fell in love with the keeb... keeping it for himself...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 01 March 2017, 01:08:28
Yep, lets forget this and back to work xD


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 03 March 2017, 22:22:42
CNC Worked
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Fri, 03 March 2017, 22:25:04
 :eek:

omg, so excite
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Fri, 03 March 2017, 22:26:49
Nice update, LZ!


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Fri, 03 March 2017, 22:56:32
Holy crap! that was fast!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 03 March 2017, 23:38:42
This is going to be a tough 12-16weeks
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 03 March 2017, 23:49:32
Holy crap! that was fast!!

Damn.  Yeah it was.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 04 March 2017, 01:15:23
Nice render... Oh wait!

That's so quick!!

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 04 March 2017, 09:02:10
oooh that was fast! shippy shippy next week yes? :D :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mike52787 on Wed, 08 March 2017, 20:43:11
oooh that was fast! shippy shippy next week yes? :D :D
we can only dream
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Sun, 19 March 2017, 06:07:15
Hi LZ, any new pics?  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ramnes on Sun, 19 March 2017, 12:38:38
give it time man
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Sun, 19 March 2017, 13:17:46
give it time man

Just saying. Waiting is so torture  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Mon, 20 March 2017, 20:14:48
I was away from home the week payment was due and forgot to pay. If anyone decides to let their spot go, I'll take it  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 21 March 2017, 05:43:38
Holy crap! that was fast!!

What can I say, it's LZ all the WAY  ;D !

He's gotten better at making vast numbers of keyboards like a production line and HE is now in charge of everything, hence the speed at which this whole venture is moving.

When the Master is in Charge Great things occur and the most important one, is NO more endless waiting on any outside work to be completed.

It's far better to buy a keyboard from him direct instead of going through second and third hand parties, like it had been done in the distant past.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Tue, 21 March 2017, 10:50:53
Holy crap! that was fast!!

What can I say, it's LZ all the WAY  ;D !

He's gotten better at making vast numbers of keyboards like a production line and HE is now in charge of everything, hence the speed at which this whole venture is moving.

When the Master is in Charge Great things occur and the most important one, is NO more endless waiting on any outside work to be completed.

It's far better to buy a keyboard from him direct instead of going through second and third hand parties, like it had been done in the distant past.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnC5cMmUx9bfWYU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 22 March 2017, 08:59:33
Gifts for everyone.  :D
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 22 March 2017, 09:01:57
Gifts for everyone.  :D
(Attachment Link)

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you :D

It must be ... some sort of key chain?
I also like the logo. :D

Never mind.  I clicked on it and it wasn't an envelope- it's a cleaning cloth! :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Wed, 22 March 2017, 09:20:35
Gifts for everyone.  :D
(Attachment Link)

Wooohooo!!! I needed one of those to clean my sunglasses <3
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 22 March 2017, 09:21:37
Gifts for everyone.  :D
(Attachment Link)

좋아요 <3


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:49:38
What a gifts!! I would clean my LZ keyboards everyday, I swear...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:57:06
Gifts for everyone.  :D
(Attachment Link)

Nice touch! Your the man.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ramnes on Wed, 22 March 2017, 13:43:02
Awesome  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:51:59
Like that!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:53:46
LZ,

Is it possible to take over someone's spot in the GB. I'd be willing to pay a transfer fee.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nmur on Wed, 22 March 2017, 19:18:13
Like that!

awesome!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: NoahNHP on Wed, 22 March 2017, 19:24:32
Like that!

so awesome!!!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: gadzkun on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:17:26
Like that!

yayyy~ :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:35:55
Like that!

Hell yeah  :)  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 22 March 2017, 22:35:55
Like that!
You are the Man.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 23 March 2017, 01:06:28
very nice!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 23 March 2017, 01:25:32
Like that!

 :cool: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 23 March 2017, 05:12:36
It's not even silk…

jk :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: luumii on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:20:45
Seriously cant wait  ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Thu, 23 March 2017, 18:54:29
Like that!

Car cover for our LZ keyboards. Pretty classy in that brown shade!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Thu, 23 March 2017, 20:39:24
Would it be possible to order more than one of them?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 25 March 2017, 22:31:24
Would it be possible to order more than one of them?

Of course, buy another LZ keyboard here  ;D .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 01 April 2017, 08:09:16
CNC 60%
[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 01 April 2017, 08:14:00
ooooohhh yeeeeeees!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Sat, 01 April 2017, 08:14:48
Damn that's nice


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Sat, 01 April 2017, 08:26:06
CNC 60%
(Attachment Link)

 ;D Do you think it will be ahead of schedule?
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Sat, 01 April 2017, 08:33:19



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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 01 April 2017, 10:39:32
CNC 60%
(Attachment Link)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 03 April 2017, 13:48:17
Those are definitely not 60% keyboards
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CMYK on Mon, 03 April 2017, 13:57:49
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 03 April 2017, 14:04:19
Woosh
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 03 April 2017, 18:25:57
Those are definitely not 60% keyboards

Maybe meant that 60% of the total boards have been CNC'd so far?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 03 April 2017, 18:27:26
Woosh
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 03 April 2017, 18:27:37
Woosh
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 03 April 2017, 20:24:32
Progress rate 60%
hahaha  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: luumii on Tue, 04 April 2017, 01:16:22
Progress rate 60%
hahaha  ;D

WOOHOO!!! Seriously can't wait  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 04 April 2017, 07:55:38
Can't wait to see the Gray one!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 April 2017, 08:04:24
Can't wait to see the Gray one!!

+1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 04 April 2017, 18:43:29
Can't wait to see the Gray one!!

+1

+1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: xiec1 on Wed, 05 April 2017, 06:58:27
Can't wait to see the Gray one!!

+1

+1

+1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 05 April 2017, 20:05:56
If someone wants to sell their spot (I know, I know), I'd be interested in buying! Deal fell through with an OTD 456gt so now I'm looking for a nice TKL.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: sitch on Wed, 05 April 2017, 20:27:22
Is there anyone could translate English to Korean here?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 05 April 2017, 20:42:21
Is there anyone could translate English to Korean here?

I speak both.  What do you need help with?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 19 April 2017, 01:31:02
bump because excitement is intensifying
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 19 April 2017, 06:30:27
bump because excitement is intensifying

You are safe to announce it here but beware about uttering those words, in a Bar with Ring Raiders present  ;) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:14:49
bump because excitement is intensifying

You are safe to announce it here but beware about uttering those words, in a Bar with Ring Raiders present  ;) .

Keep in mind that Elrick isn't in this Groupbuy but we always want him IN our Groupbuy threads to keep the hype going strong!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:02:14
bump because excitement is intensifying

You are safe to announce it here but beware about uttering those words, in a Bar with Ring Raiders present  ;) .

Keep in mind that Elrick isn't in this Groupbuy but we always want him IN our Groupbuy threads to keep the hype going strong!

100% ✊
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 19 April 2017, 23:48:50
bump because excitement is intensifying

You are safe to announce it here but beware about uttering those words, in a Bar with Ring Raiders present  ;) .

I tend to think my reflexes are quite quick... but this one may have gone over my head. Only by a bit though... I get the point... and I definitely set myself up for that.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 20 April 2017, 03:25:50
Keep in mind that Elrick isn't in this Groupbuy but we always want him IN our Groupbuy threads to keep the hype going strong!

I'm definitely in the NEXT one, that LZ runs here  8) .

His keyboards, no matter the style or shape are to DIE for, in the end when it comes time to meet your maker all you really want is to keep clutching one of his creations as you ease on into that Dark Sleep forever.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nmur on Thu, 20 April 2017, 03:26:39
Keep in mind that Elrick isn't in this Groupbuy but we always want him IN our Groupbuy threads to keep the hype going strong!

I'm definitely in the NEXT one, that LZ runs here  8) .

His keyboards, no matter the style or shape are to DIE for, in the end when it comes time to meet your maker all you really want is to keep clutching one of his creations as you ease on into that Dark Sleep forever.

what LZ board(s) do you own already?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 20 April 2017, 03:56:07
what LZ board(s) do you own already?

Not in any particular order but I do have his KMAC 2, LZ-GH, LZ MX Mini, LZ CE, LZ EX and his final one, done this year which was the LZ Ironman edition.

I was in some Group Buys of his but mainly got seriously raped by previous owners, wanting their fair share of moolah for his creations.  Don't blame them really because I would never sell any of his works no matter the reason.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: doom2 on Thu, 20 April 2017, 12:36:58
what LZ board(s) do you own already?

Not in any particular order but I do have his KMAC 2, LZ-GH, LZ MX Mini, LZ CE, LZ EX and his final one, done this year which was the LZ Ironman edition.

I was in some Group Buys of his but mainly got seriously raped by previous owners, wanting their fair share of moolah for his creations.  Don't blame them really because I would never sell any of his works no matter the reason.

And here I am with just LZ ErGO TKL and LZ-FE. :( Almost bought an LZ-RV yesterday but not enough money. Might honestly sell my TX-CP to pay for it. :o Also, how was LZ involved with KMAC? Did he have a hand in KMAC Mini?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Thu, 20 April 2017, 13:05:46
what LZ board(s) do you own already?

Not in any particular order but I do have his KMAC 2, LZ-GH, LZ MX Mini, LZ CE, LZ EX and his final one, done this year which was the LZ Ironman edition.

I was in some Group Buys of his but mainly got seriously raped by previous owners, wanting their fair share of moolah for his creations.  Don't blame them really because I would never sell any of his works no matter the reason.

Elrick's keyboard-game is definitely on Fleek!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:53:32
Also, how was LZ involved with KMAC? Did he have a hand in KMAC Mini?

LZ is one of the founding fathers so to speak of Custom Keyboards within South Korea.  All I know is that he helped guide many others into producing various designs for hardcore keyboard fanatics within his own country, which makes us all look like mediocre pedestrians in the world of keyboard addiction.

The Koreans are far more obsessive about their keyboards, especially customized models such as the ones produced in the last few years.

Because LZ has been doing this for a very long time, his designs are now the penultimate when it comes to Premium Designed Keyboards produced on this Planet.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Blackhawk on Sat, 22 April 2017, 09:51:03
PMed you about a possible order change
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Kev on Sun, 23 April 2017, 03:47:56
What is the final USB port type?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 23 April 2017, 09:38:00
If anyone wants to sell their LZ CLS then let me know! Thanks!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fetty AWP on Fri, 28 April 2017, 03:42:01
Wow, can't believe I missed out on this! Any chance there's a GB coming soon with another layout, say like 75%? Love your boards LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Fri, 28 April 2017, 04:06:44
Wow, can't believe I missed out on this! Any chance there's a GB coming soon with another layout, say like 75%? Love your boards LZ!

Currently there is 66% FC660m layout in IC phase, LZ X ASRH
make sure don't miss it again :p


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: laughatpain on Fri, 28 April 2017, 17:12:54
Wow, can't believe I missed out on this! Any chance there's a GB coming soon with another layout, say like 75%? Love your boards LZ!

Currently there is 66% FC660m layout in IC phase, LZ X ASRH
make sure don't miss it again :p


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The form went up today and the IC thread closed. Might be waiting for an official GB approval
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 29 April 2017, 05:45:19
Wow, can't believe I missed out on this! Any chance there's a GB coming soon with another layout, say like 75%? Love your boards LZ!

Currently there is 66% FC660m layout in IC phase, LZ X ASRH
make sure don't miss it again :p


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The form went up today and the IC thread closed. Might be waiting for an official GB approval

I'm in the same boat, waiting to see what happens next before handing over any money to the latest 66% model.

Strange to shut down the interest column yet also no presentation within this section........very strange.........
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 May 2017, 05:58:24
Sorry to again post my interest for another LZ keyboard BUT he hasn't started another section for his "LZ + ASRH collaboration" keyboard.

Have just placed an order, not knowing what will happen, this is the first time where LZ has completely gone off the reservation,  of course can't get in touch with him.

Sorry to interfere here with the LZ CLS Classic Group Buy area, but what's a desperate LZ collector to do..........   :'( ?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 01 May 2017, 12:53:10
Sorry to again post my interest for another LZ keyboard BUT he hasn't started another section for his "LZ + ASRH collaboration" keyboard.

Have just placed an order, not knowing what will happen, this is the first time where LZ has completely gone off the reservation,  of course can't get in touch with him.

Sorry to interfere here with the LZ CLS Classic Group Buy area, but what's a desperate LZ collector to do..........   :'( ?

Someone else said fill out the form now and ask for forgiveness later. Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 May 2017, 21:25:58
Someone else said fill out the form now and ask for forgiveness later. Couldn't agree more.

Was worried for nothing, LZ is on Holidays back in South Korea hence he wasn't around to hold my hand.

Suspect when he returns, everything will be updated and sorted.  After all, who are we to push someone to be at our beckoned call 24/7   ;D ?

Just happy he's still around and he hasn't forgotten the LZ CLS Classic TKL nor the up coming LZ x ASRH keyboards.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 05 May 2017, 13:46:27
Can't wait to get my hands on LZ-CLS!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:22:20
Next week is Week 12... Getting close!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Damonskv on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:26:41
Next week is Week 12... Getting close!
Take a look at this
(http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/image/2675D84058BD50222D8761)
I think it's closer to end of June
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:34:38
Next week is Week 12... Getting close!
Take a look at this
Show Image
(http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/image/2675D84058BD50222D8761)

I think it's closer to end of June


OP says "Production 12 ~ 16 weeks from 2017-02-20" -- just hoping its closer to 12 than 16!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Damonskv on Fri, 05 May 2017, 14:47:30
Next week is Week 12... Getting close!
Take a look at this
Show Image
(http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/image/2675D84058BD50222D8761)

I think it's closer to end of June


OP says "Production 12 ~ 16 weeks from 2017-02-20" -- just hoping its closer to 12 than 16!
I'm just a realist, I know that he won't send until everything is perfect. I think if we get 16 it will be very good))
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 05 May 2017, 19:12:56
I'm just a realist, I know that he won't send until everything is perfect. I think if we get 16 it will be very good))

You are also forgetting that he has been designing and making keyboards for many years, probably one of the most experienced builders in Korea.

It also means that he has access to First Class manufacturers within his country, that makes sure they all meet his dedicated standards.  I was surprised how quickly he built the Ironman Keyboard from scratch and sent it to my address so quickly.

Trust me, when you hand over your money for a completely built keyboard, he always delivers within record time.  Far quicker than most others living elsewhere on this planet.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 05 May 2017, 20:14:29
I'm just a realist, I know that he won't send until everything is perfect. I think if we get 16 it will be very good))

You are also forgetting that he has been designing and making keyboards for many years, probably one of the most experienced builders in Korea.

It also means that he has access to First Class manufacturers within his country, that makes sure they all meet his dedicated standards.  I was surprised how quickly he built the Ironman Keyboard from scratch and sent it to my address so quickly.

Trust me, when you hand over your money for a completely built keyboard, he always delivers within record time.  Far quicker than most others living elsewhere on this planet.

Does he also offer an assembly service?  I didn't see it when ordering.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 05 May 2017, 22:18:31
Does he also offer an assembly service?  I didn't see it when ordering.

He has done it for me numerous times, so I suspect it's there but not officially offered.

Just be nice and ask him and of course pay whatever he demands, after all you are asking for something extra that isn't listed.

For me, I am almost never at home plus spending months soldering each and every switch would push me over the edge of sanity, so I need his FULL service without question here at what ever price he sees fit to apply.  When you're buying an LZ creation never argue or complain about the price.  Always behave like a customer at Seinfeld's Soup Nazi's episode, pay the man, ask what you want then step aside and wait for the delivery.

That way you get a keyboard that most here on Geekhack have dreamed about.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rustywok on Fri, 05 May 2017, 23:39:24
Does he also offer an assembly service?  I didn't see it when ordering.

He has done it for me numerous times, so I suspect it's there but not officially offered.

Just be nice and ask him and of course pay whatever he demands, after all you are asking for something extra that isn't listed.

For me, I am almost never at home plus spending months soldering each and every switch would push me over the edge of sanity, so I need his FULL service without question here at what ever price he sees fit to apply.  When you're buying an LZ creation never argue or complain about the price.  Always behave like a customer at Seinfeld's Soup Nazi's episode, pay the man, ask what you want then step aside and wait for the delivery.

That way you get a keyboard that most here on Geekhack have dreamed about.

This is interesting. I'm not handy with a soldering iron and the idea of accidentally screwing up a LZ board makes me want to bite off my fingertips.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 06 May 2017, 00:19:14
Does he also offer an assembly service?  I didn't see it when ordering.

He has done it for me numerous times, so I suspect it's there but not officially offered.

Just be nice and ask him and of course pay whatever he demands, after all you are asking for something extra that isn't listed.

For me, I am almost never at home plus spending months soldering each and every switch would push me over the edge of sanity, so I need his FULL service without question here at what ever price he sees fit to apply.  When you're buying an LZ creation never argue or complain about the price.  Always behave like a customer at Seinfeld's Soup Nazi's episode, pay the man, ask what you want then step aside and wait for the delivery.

That way you get a keyboard that most here on Geekhack have dreamed about.

This is interesting. I'm not handy with a soldering iron and the idea of accidentally screwing up a LZ board makes me want to bite off my fingertips.

I have a KMAC 2 PCB around somewhere that's pretty much burned out. I bought it for $10 to show people an example of why you should buy a practice board.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 06 May 2017, 01:03:24
Does he also offer an assembly service?  I didn't see it when ordering.

He has done it for me numerous times, so I suspect it's there but not officially offered.

Just be nice and ask him and of course pay whatever he demands, after all you are asking for something extra that isn't listed.

For me, I am almost never at home plus spending months soldering each and every switch would push me over the edge of sanity, so I need his FULL service without question here at what ever price he sees fit to apply.  When you're buying an LZ creation never argue or complain about the price.  Always behave like a customer at Seinfeld's Soup Nazi's episode, pay the man, ask what you want then step aside and wait for the delivery.

That way you get a keyboard that most here on Geekhack have dreamed about.

I'm pretty confident in my soldering skills by now.  Thanks for the info tho. I didn't even know it was an option.
To me soldering isn't the hard part. It's the lubing and spring swapping that's a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sat, 06 May 2017, 01:54:01

I'm pretty confident in my soldering skills by now.  Thanks for the info tho. I didn't even know it was an option.
To me soldering isn't the hard part. It's the lubing and spring swapping that's a pain in the ass.


This and it feels mandatory with such a high priced board. My fingertips are always like rocks for the week after. Soldering is satisfying, switch modifications are a pain.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: renzpwns on Sat, 06 May 2017, 03:21:13

I'm pretty confident in my soldering skills by now.  Thanks for the info tho. I didn't even know it was an option.
To me soldering isn't the hard part. It's the lubing and spring swapping that's a pain in the ass.


This and it feels mandatory with such a high priced board. My fingertips are always like rocks for the week after. Soldering is satisfying, switch modifications are a pain.
Agreed, switch and stab modding consumes at least 80% of build time in every one of my builds. Worth to go the extra mile though since we are talking about some really expensive boards. They all deserve some nice switches to be put on them.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 16 May 2017, 01:51:13
The hunger stirs within me
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nmur on Tue, 16 May 2017, 01:53:18
The hunger stirs within me

A warrior's greatest weapon... is patience.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:10:15
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nmur on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:13:31
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

saranghaeyo  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Tue, 16 May 2017, 02:13:38
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

Yeee


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 16 May 2017, 05:03:43
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

So excited   :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ramnes on Tue, 16 May 2017, 07:39:49
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

굉장해!!!

Any picture to share? :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 16 May 2017, 17:10:02
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

HYPE!!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 17 May 2017, 18:56:38
aw yiss. I am guessing that means weight and plate cnc still to go?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 17 May 2017, 22:22:58
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

HYPE!!!

For those who have never received an LZ keyboard before, prepare for the ultimate shock in your lives when it arrives to your front door.

The QUALITY alone is what will bowl you over, the unfortunate thing is that after you get an LZ keyboard everything else just doesn't compare on any level.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 17 May 2017, 22:28:00
update
2017-05-16
CASE  CNC Finish. :)

HYPE!!!

For those who have never received an LZ keyboard before, prepare for the ultimate shock in your lives when it arrives to your front door.

The QUALITY alone is what will bowl you over, the unfortunate thing is that after you get an LZ keyboard everything else just doesn't compare on any level.


So... i should prepare to sell off everything that i'll no longer use?  :thumb: :))
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 17 May 2017, 23:59:10
So... i should prepare to sell off everything that i'll no longer use?  :thumb: :))

Not at all, anyone who owns a Ferrari doesn't sell off his Bentley's, Royce's, Aston Martins, Mercs or BMWs, he simply admires in owning and using that particular model of that Ferrari.  His collection is complete until another model in the future becomes available to own.

I have never sold off anything, something my relatives can't wait to own one day after I pass away but it doesn't stop me from enjoying some of the great pleasures in Life, like owning and using an LZ keyboard  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: hpfalcon on Thu, 18 May 2017, 08:02:14
If anyone would anyone like to swap their gray (either type) for my black wkl, let me know.

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 18 May 2017, 22:54:45
So... i should prepare to sell off everything that i'll no longer use?  :thumb: :))

Not at all, anyone who owns a Ferrari doesn't sell off his Bentley's, Royce's, Aston Martins, Mercs or BMWs, he simply admires in owning and using that particular model of that Ferrari.  His collection is complete until another model in the future becomes available to own.

I have never sold off anything, something my relatives can't wait to own one day after I pass away but it doesn't stop me from enjoying some of the great pleasures in Life, like owning and using an LZ keyboard  8) .

a man after my own heart!

(I also actually use all my boards semi regularly).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: jacky on Mon, 22 May 2017, 23:35:57
Look nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 23 May 2017, 21:18:27
(I also actually use all my boards semi regularly).

Remove the 'semi' and get into the "REGULARLY"  ;) .

That is what these keyboards are about, to use each and everyday without remorse or guilt.  After all, you are using something that very people can ever imagine in owning hence it's your duty to enjoy such opulence  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Tue, 23 May 2017, 21:50:49
Its coming down to the wire. The hype is rekindling.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Tue, 30 May 2017, 17:51:31
Wonder how the gray turned out. Or has the anodizing stage begun?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 05 June 2017, 12:33:11
Journal Entry 15:

I put peas on my head and called myself a pea head. It's clear the madness has set in and I am in desperate need of the LZ CLS.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 05 June 2017, 12:43:01
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 05 June 2017, 12:44:44
I also can't wait for my black LZ-CLS!
HYPE TRAIN NEVER STOPS
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 05 June 2017, 12:59:26
Next Monday marks 16 weeks. Seems like that went by pretty fast.
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 05 June 2017, 16:41:11
Next Monday marks 16 weeks. Seems like that went by pretty fast.

Yeah, we're near :)


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Mon, 05 June 2017, 16:42:17
Hopefully we're on track for shipment soon!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: laughatpain on Mon, 05 June 2017, 16:49:36
Kinda sad I asked to bundle with GMK Burgundy to save shipping $$. Dont want to wait for GMK Burgundy to complete
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Mon, 05 June 2017, 22:25:40
Knowing my luck, this will ship as I am travelling to Cali for two weeks :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Thu, 08 June 2017, 11:55:11
I'm fairly certain LZ's radio silence indicates a shipment announcement is close!



...okay not really, but one can hope.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: catweewee on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:39:32
I'm fairly certain LZ's radio silence indicates a shipment announcement is close!



...okay not really, but one can hope.

I've gotten word from LZ that they are about 65% done.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:57:03
I'm fairly certain LZ's radio silence indicates a shipment announcement is close!



...okay not really, but one can hope.

I've gotten word from LZ that they are about 65% done.

Anodizing?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 08 June 2017, 16:30:04
I'm fairly certain LZ's radio silence indicates a shipment announcement is close!



...okay not really, but one can hope.

I've gotten word from LZ that they are about 65% done.

Anodizing?

I mean, didn't he say CNC is done? Probably ano then.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 08 June 2017, 17:21:33
I'm fairly certain LZ's radio silence indicates a shipment announcement is close!



...okay not really, but one can hope.

I've gotten word from LZ that they are about 65% done.

Anodizing?

I mean, didn't he say CNC is done? Probably ano then.

I would think anodizing but the really hopeful part of me says packaging   :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: catweewee on Fri, 09 June 2017, 01:48:39
I'm fairly certain LZ's radio silence indicates a shipment announcement is close!



...okay not really, but one can hope.

I've gotten word from LZ that they are about 65% done.

Anodizing?

I mean, didn't he say CNC is done? Probably ano then.

I would think anodizing but the really hopeful part of me says packaging   :p

He said ano retesting
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:24:23
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604)
Eva Bag
[attach=1]
[attach=2]

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.



Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:24:52
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604)
Bag sample
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:43:36
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604)
Eva Bag
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.

Thanks for the update.  That bag is Nice  :thumb:
Can't wait to see the grey anodizing.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:52:31
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604)
Eva Bag
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.

Thanks for making my day, LZ. You rock!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:56:35
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604))
Bag sample
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.
Thank You for the progress update.
Take your time and do not compromise on quality issue.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Fri, 09 June 2017, 12:01:49
Yes please take all the time you need LZ. Quality over speed!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: laughatpain on Fri, 09 June 2017, 12:19:47
If anyone is interested in trading their black WKL top/bottom for my grey WKL top/bottom, please PM me.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 09 June 2017, 13:45:39
If anyone is interested in trading their black WKL top/bottom for my grey WKL top/bottom, please PM me.

Try to contact this man>> https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53344

He asked me if I interested to trade my Grey WKL for his Black WKL but I refused.

Good luck.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: laughatpain on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:24:53
If anyone is interested in trading their black WKL top/bottom for my grey WKL top/bottom, please PM me.

Try to contact this man>> https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53344

He asked me if I interested to trade my Grey WKL for his Black WKL but I refused.

Good luck.

I've got something in the works, but if it falls through this'll help.

Thanks/
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:50:38
LLL              ZZZZZZZZZZ
LLL              ZZZZZZZZZ
LLL                         ZZZ
LLL                      ZZZ
LLL                    ZZZ
LLL                  ZZZ
LLL                ZZZ
LLLLLLLLLL  ZZZZZZZZZ
LLLLLLLLLLL ZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:54:17
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604)
Eva Bag
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.

I hope the grey will turn out wonderful.
And that Kin bag is the icing on the cake, thanks to both of you!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 09 June 2017, 15:51:36
AWESOME!!!

Thank you!
I really believe you should take all the time you need if it would mean we'd get the best quality keyboards.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 12 June 2017, 11:33:26
Hello all,
I am having a very busy day with my company business these days.

Progress update.
CNC is Done.(PCB or Switch plate done)
Weight and Diffuser plate 50%
and
silver, black anodizing 70%
but grey colour is a little problem, anodizong Shop and color issues are in discussion
and cls box is change.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87239.msg2358604#msg2358604)
Eva Bag
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

With  Kin's help&suppot me, the bag will be provided to the participants.
(Thanks to Kin)
I need a little more time.
Please wait.
Thank you everyone.

I'm with everyone else. Take all the time you need. Also if your having issues with the Grey I'm willing to change my color if need be. That case is an incredible gesture, thank you (and Kin) very much!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 18 June 2017, 13:51:51
Is this for real? Are we getting this bag? This is amazing! Thank you so much, seriously, and take the time you need to sort out any problems.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 18 June 2017, 20:37:00
Is this for real? Are we getting this bag? This is amazing! Thank you so much, seriously, and take the time you need to sort out any problems.

When you hand over serious moolah for a unique LZ keyboard, you get everything an extravagant manufacturer can supply.

Just like buying a brand new Maserati Alfieri, you get a very special vehicle designed to take your breath away with it's performance and looks  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 18 June 2017, 20:38:55
Is this for real? Are we getting this bag? This is amazing! Thank you so much, seriously, and take the time you need to sort out any problems.

When you hand over serious moolah for a unique LZ keyboard, you get everything an extravagant manufacturer can supply.

Just like buying a brand new Maserati Alfieri, you get a very special vehicle designed to take your breath away with it's performance and looks  8) .

I was wondering when you were gonna bless us with your praise Elrick haha.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Sun, 18 June 2017, 23:56:42
Is this for real? Are we getting this bag? This is amazing! Thank you so much, seriously, and take the time you need to sort out any problems.

When you hand over serious moolah for a unique LZ keyboard, you get everything an extravagant manufacturer can supply.

Just like buying a brand new Maserati Alfieri, you get a very special vehicle designed to take your breath away with it's performance and looks  8) .

Except.. old Maseratis were better cars it seems.. e.g., QuatroPorte
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 19 June 2017, 02:35:46
Except.. old Maseratis were better cars it seems.. e.g., QuatroPorte

The old models had atrocious electrics and problematic transmissions, truly horrible.  The NEWer Maserati Corp made deals with Ferrari and German experts for some truly remarkable, 24/7 performance.

Don't go comparing older models here since the newer stuff is many times more optimized and reliable for the current performance freaks out there.  If you want a functioning sportscar to drive everyday, then this future model can't be beat for the money.  Plus it's way more beautiful to look at, even when it's parked in anyone's driveway.

Always compare the amount you hand over to what you're actually getting, whether it be keyboards or cars  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 19 June 2017, 07:56:22
LLL              ZZZZZZZZZZ
LLL              ZZZZZZZZZ
LLL                         ZZZ
LLL                      ZZZ
LLL                    ZZZ
LLL                  ZZZ
LLL                ZZZ
LLLLLLLLLL  ZZZZZZZZZ
LLLLLLLLLLL ZZZZZZZZZZ


You could have made it bigger dude

          _____            _____         
         /\    \          /\    \         
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         \/____/          \/____/       
 

                                     

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: maximm on Wed, 21 June 2017, 13:46:20
I would like to give up my spot.

Please contact me so we can contact the GB runner together
LZ CLS   TKL WK Grey, SS&Alu Plate, 3x stabs
$548+70shp paid.

Write in this thread and send me a PM. Please only contact me if you are 100% sure about it.


PENDING
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ___q on Wed, 21 June 2017, 14:53:06
I would like to give up my spot.

Please contact me so we can contact the GB runner together
LZ CLS   TKL WK Grey, SS&Alu Plate, 3x stabs
$548+70shp paid.

Write in this thread and send me a PM. Please only contact me if you are 100% sure about it.

I will take your spot.  Sending you a pm now.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 21 June 2017, 19:37:17
wait... so you're giving us a foam cut-out travel case with these as well? or was this a purchase option i missed?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Goon on Wed, 21 June 2017, 20:02:27
wait... so you're giving us a foam cut-out travel case with these as well? or was this a purchase option i missed?  :eek:

They will be included for free. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nastrovje on Wed, 21 June 2017, 20:35:51
wait... so you're giving us a foam cut-out travel case with these as well? or was this a purchase option i missed?  :eek:

They will be included for free. :)

So nice! I always wanted such a case and now I get one for free?  :eek:

The day this keyboard arrives will feel better than christmas as a kid.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 21 June 2017, 21:57:52
wait... so you're giving us a foam cut-out travel case with these as well? or was this a purchase option i missed?  :eek:

Yeah, he said that the bag will be included  :)

I'm wondering if the cases will be the same size as in the picture, or if they will be a little smaller to better fit a TKL.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 22 June 2017, 07:41:16
I would guess they won't order a new size and just take what they have and adjust the foam on the inside to fit snug to a TKL. Either way would be fine!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Thu, 22 June 2017, 16:30:11
wait... so you're giving us a foam cut-out travel case with these as well? or was this a purchase option i missed?  :eek:

Yeah, he said that the bag will be included  :)

I'm wondering if the cases will be the same size as in the picture, or if they will be a little smaller to better fit a TKL.

The CLS might ship in an appropriately sized bag as Kin said last month in the TX thread that he would be making bags for TKL boards.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 22 June 2017, 16:55:24
wait... so you're giving us a foam cut-out travel case with these as well? or was this a purchase option i missed?  :eek:

Yeah, he said that the bag will be included  :)

I'm wondering if the cases will be the same size as in the picture, or if they will be a little smaller to better fit a TKL.

The CLS might ship in an appropriately sized bag as Kin said last month in the TX thread that he would be making bags for TKL boards.
That would be awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 22 June 2017, 19:42:14
love me some kin and lz teamwork.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LDobler on Fri, 23 June 2017, 19:43:45
Hello!  :)

Would anybody be interested in swapping their GB spot for the LZ CLS for my MIRA TKL spot?

My order specs:

WK
Gray case /w steel weight
sliver alu plate and STS plate
1 PCB

Please PM me if you're interested so we can arrange smth.

Thanks!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: laughatpain on Sun, 25 June 2017, 16:01:23
Pm'd LZ about a color change swap with another user. Could use some follow up or change in the order sheet
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Thu, 29 June 2017, 21:47:28
Just found this (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-1) gem

and I also seen this (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4485356) post of the stan, outstanding  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nmur on Thu, 29 June 2017, 22:27:27
Just found this (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-1) gem

and I also seen this (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4485356) post of the stan, outstanding  :eek:

sweet

looks like that black ano is more of a matte finish, rather that glossy, which is nice
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 29 June 2017, 22:32:10
Want that Stan
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 29 June 2017, 22:33:25
Any word on how the grey turned out yet?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mit97 on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:49:26
Hello i'm looking to give up my spot in the GB.
I ordered one black WKL with one SS plate and one brass weight along with one diffuser.
I'll be selling it for what I paid, $553.00 for the kit and shipping to the U.S.
Please reply to this post and PM me. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ___q on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:56:11
Hello i'm looking to give up my spot in the GB.
I ordered one black WKL with one SS plate and one brass weight along with one diffuser.
I'll be selling it for what I paid, $553.00 for the kit and shipping to the U.S.
Please reply to this post and PM me. Thanks.

I'll take your spot -- sending you a pm now (the other person whose slot I tried to get backed out).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 02 July 2017, 21:44:02
Hello i'm looking to give up my spot in the GB.
I ordered one black WKL with one SS plate and one brass weight along with one diffuser.
I'll be selling it for what I paid, $553.00 for the kit and shipping to the U.S.
Please reply to this post and PM me. Thanks.

I'll take your spot -- sending you a pm now (the other person whose slot I tried to get backed out).

Yeah it's tough trying to buy into a Group Buy when you start seeing the results of what's coming out.  Also you can't blame the other guy for pulling out of your first deal because in the end to get rid of his order maybe quite foolish which he later regretted and changed his mind.

Hope in the end you get in line with other fortunate individuals simply because LZ won't be doing this keyboard again, any time soon  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: maximm on Mon, 03 July 2017, 05:04:25
I pulled out because i could not get hold of LZ and i had to get the funds from somewhere else. Thus i no longer had reason to sell my spot.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ___q on Mon, 03 July 2017, 11:16:33
Yeah, definitely no blame anywhere... not even really sure why I mentioned it in my original post tbh.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Sun, 09 July 2017, 15:16:22
Any updates on the anodization?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Sun, 09 July 2017, 21:17:09
Any updates on the anodization?

You can find some pics on LZ website.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 21:21:30
Any updates on the anodization?
You can find some pics on LZ website.

I'm pretty sure it's just pictures of the black anodization on his website.
I really want to see how the grey turned out.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 09 July 2017, 21:45:28
I talked with him a couple weeks ago and he said he was waiting for the sample from the factory and we would see the final grey soon.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 23:24:22
I talked with him a couple weeks ago and head said he was waiting for the sample from the factory and we would see the final grey soon.

Got my fingers crossed  :)  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 09 July 2017, 23:24:49
I talked with him a couple weeks ago and head said he was waiting for the sample from the factory and we would see the final grey soon.

Neat!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 14 July 2017, 18:32:36
Yeah, definitely no blame anywhere... not even really sure why I mentioned it in my original post tbh.

Did you buy that spot through LZ? Or did you just pay the guy who has a spot? Interested in giving up my spot but not if it doesn't involve LZ. Got an FC660C and loving the layout... the only thing missing is split backspace... which will happen when LZ-St delivers in the future.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 16 July 2017, 18:51:35
Hello Everyone!

Sorry.
The appointed time has passed.
I need a little more time than I thought.
I will ship before September.
and

LZ CLS Bag new sample.

[attachimg=1]


Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 16 July 2017, 18:52:41
Hello Everyone!

Sorry.
The appointed time has passed.
I need a little more time than I thought.
I will ship before September.
and

LZ CLS Bag new sample.

(Attachment Link)

Amazing, thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Sun, 16 July 2017, 18:53:18
Will it most likely be shipping by the end of August or the middle?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 16 July 2017, 18:53:51
Take the time you need to deliver a good product. Delays happen all the time and I am sure most of us expected them to happen at some point and are mostly fine with it (I hope!).

Thanks for the bag yo.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 16 July 2017, 23:03:28
Hello Everyone!

Sorry.
The appointed time has passed.
I need a little more time than I thought.
I will ship before September.
and

LZ CLS Bag new sample.

(Attachment Link)

Take all the time you need, I don't think anybody here minds waiting.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mike52787 on Sun, 16 July 2017, 23:22:54
no rush, gives me more time to be hyped about it :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Wed, 19 July 2017, 11:57:19
Hello Everyone!

Sorry.
The appointed time has passed.
I need a little more time than I thought.
I will ship before September.
and

LZ CLS Bag new sample.

(Attachment Link)

Thanks for the update!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Wed, 19 July 2017, 16:41:51
Appreciate the head-sup LifeZ, you're still leap and bounds ahead of other GB's leaders here on HackGeek :D We appreciate you! <3
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Wed, 19 July 2017, 23:34:39
Selling my spot, PM for deets
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 19 July 2017, 23:49:10
PM sent.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CMYK on Sun, 23 July 2017, 12:58:52
I learned that some people ordered Alps plates for their CLS.  This is very late, but is there any way to get one?  I typed on a variety of Alps boards, and I like more than MX style.
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 23 July 2017, 13:00:20
I learned that some people ordered Alps plates for their CLS.  This is very late, but is there any way to get one?  I typed on a variety of Alps boards, and I like more than MX style.

Me too lol. I just PM'd LZ several days ago about the alphas pcb & wkl alps plate :)

Update: He didn't have any extra alps kits.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: skaloola on Mon, 24 July 2017, 09:30:35
I once tried to take over someones spot on a GB.. I was asking for their invoice / what options they had.  They replied basically asking me if I had any artisans he could get for the spot (on top of his original invoice of course).

I was just like, WTF.  It also bugs me when people get some relatively exclusive custom and it's immediately up on MechMarket/Classifieds w/ a huge markup.

(it's totally understandable when a GB takes longer than anticipated and you no longer want/need it -- be one of the good guys and sell it at cost!)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:19:49
I once tried to take over someones spot on a GB.. I was asking for their invoice / what options they had.  They replied basically asking me if I had any artisans he could get for the spot (on top of his original invoice of course).

I was just like, WTF.  It also bugs me when people get some relatively exclusive custom and it's immediately up on MechMarket/Classifieds w/ a huge markup.

(it's totally understandable when a GB takes longer than anticipated and you no longer want/need it -- be one of the good guys and sell it at cost!)

Selling my spot for $1k
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CMYK on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:41:21
I once tried to take over someones spot on a GB.. I was asking for their invoice / what options they had.  They replied basically asking me if I had any artisans he could get for the spot (on top of his original invoice of course).

I was just like, WTF.  It also bugs me when people get some relatively exclusive custom and it's immediately up on MechMarket/Classifieds w/ a huge markup.

(it's totally understandable when a GB takes longer than anticipated and you no longer want/need it -- be one of the good guys and sell it at cost!)

I received the same answer.  A huge bummer.  I wonder if there is any alternative?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:44:14
I once tried to take over someones spot on a GB.. I was asking for their invoice / what options they had.  They replied basically asking me if I had any artisans he could get for the spot (on top of his original invoice of course).

I was just like, WTF.  It also bugs me when people get some relatively exclusive custom and it's immediately up on MechMarket/Classifieds w/ a huge markup.

(it's totally understandable when a GB takes longer than anticipated and you no longer want/need it -- be one of the good guys and sell it at cost!)

I did not sell this person my spot nor ask for artisans from the person who got my spot. Nor even talk to them :p This statement seemed directed at someone in this GB but left it open so figured I'd clear myself.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:57:13
I once tried to take over someones spot on a GB.. I was asking for their invoice / what options they had.  They replied basically asking me if I had any artisans he could get for the spot (on top of his original invoice of course).

I was just like, WTF.  It also bugs me when people get some relatively exclusive custom and it's immediately up on MechMarket/Classifieds w/ a huge markup.

(it's totally understandable when a GB takes longer than anticipated and you no longer want/need it -- be one of the good guys and sell it at cost!)

I did not sell this person my spot nor ask for artisans from the person who got my spot. Nor even talk to them :p This statement seemed directed at someone in this GB but left it open so figured I'd clear myself.

Confirmed Mr Beastquakes is at fault! :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: odd on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:59:18
I have been lucky enough to buy what I'm looking for here for little to no markup. The few people who charged me insane prices I figured what I paid was what it cost to never do business with those people again. Just to be clear I didn't get scammed rather just taken advantage of because I had nowhere else to find these things so I paid the prices asked 😥
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Mon, 24 July 2017, 18:02:06
I once tried to take over someones spot on a GB.. I was asking for their invoice / what options they had.  They replied basically asking me if I had any artisans he could get for the spot (on top of his original invoice of course).

I was just like, WTF.  It also bugs me when people get some relatively exclusive custom and it's immediately up on MechMarket/Classifieds w/ a huge markup.

(it's totally understandable when a GB takes longer than anticipated and you no longer want/need it -- be one of the good guys and sell it at cost!)

I used to get upset about stuff like this. Really though, that's how much the board is worth to that person. The original cost doesn't matter. If you don't think its worth that much, don't buy it. Wait until someone else sells one that doesn't value the board as much.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 24 July 2017, 18:02:17
Yeah I don't get it. Why bother buying spots for ridiculous prices from these guys when you can get a spot from me for the low low price of only $2000 order yours TODAY
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Mon, 24 July 2017, 19:49:13
I tried to swap colors from Black to Gray back in March.

I think something got lost in translation as this was my final response from LZ
Quote
okay add pcb& plate
if can change to gray

Still appears as WKL Black in the spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qwodLvpqJIeT1MNwv0E8NPv-mkAborb2anUKt7NQAKY/edit#gid=0).

Can anyone help translate Korean for me?

OR

Does anyone want to trade me WKL their Gray / Silver for my WKL Black?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Mon, 24 July 2017, 22:48:55
I am selling mine right around GB price

It was not me either
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: lvince95 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 12:13:14
Selling my spot, PM for deets

This spot is now claimed by me, just wanted to confirm here
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Thu, 27 July 2017, 12:14:58
Confirming that lvince95 bought my spot
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Thu, 27 July 2017, 12:43:40
This is an abridged excerpt from a PM between myself & one of the people who announced in this thread that they're not one of the gougers.


Gotta love the kbd community.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 27 July 2017, 13:25:32
This is an abridged excerpt from a PM between myself & one of the people who announced in this thread that they're not one of the gougers.

  • n__dles: Yea, I'll take your spot. Actually, I'll pay you $50 to swap case colors (you take my black, i get your gray). Then you could sell the black with your options, so you'd end up with $50 extra.
  • the-other: I just want to sell now, not deal with selling later
  • n__dles: Ok, that's fine too. How much?
  • the-other: actually, I can swap for black, if you want. I found someone who only wants to buy a black case
  • n__dles: done
  • the-other: Can you still do the swap cases and pay me 50?
  • n__dles: Nope. You turned that down. Now you need me to sell your kbd. Give me $50 to swap cases with you. Don't be a jerk  :rolleyes:

Gotta love the kbd community.

Again, this wasn't me.

Also, you offered that guy $50 first. I don't really think him seeing if it's still the deal is an egregious sin. Unless, he continued to push the issue until the deal fell apart or something.

Maybe we just stop accusing "someone in this GB of 90something people" that sold their spot of being not worthwhile people. Unless you gonna call them out by name, which I don't think is good either.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Thu, 27 July 2017, 14:16:23
This is an abridged excerpt from a PM between myself & one of the people who announced in this thread that they're not one of the gougers.

  • n__dles: Yea, I'll take your spot. Actually, I'll pay you $50 to swap case colors (you take my black, i get your gray). Then you could sell the black with your options, so you'd end up with $50 extra.
  • the-other: I just want to sell now, not deal with selling later
  • n__dles: Ok, that's fine too. How much?
  • the-other: actually, I can swap for black, if you want. I found someone who only wants to buy a black case
  • n__dles: done
  • the-other: Can you still do the swap cases and pay me 50?
  • n__dles: Nope. You turned that down. Now you need me to sell your kbd. Give me $50 to swap cases with you. Don't be a jerk  :rolleyes:

Gotta love the kbd community.

It's almost worth $50 to get you to drop this subject.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Damonskv on Thu, 27 July 2017, 23:51:42
Forced to withdraw from the gb. I have gray wkl. Paid shipping to Europe. I see that recently held a heated debate on the topic of speculation with spots. Will immediately indicate that only want to return what is paid.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 28 July 2017, 00:19:16
I'm not Elrick, but I have a feeling that all of these people selling their spots will eventually seriously regret selling their spots.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 28 July 2017, 01:04:28
I'm not Elrick, but I have a feeling that all of these people selling their spots will eventually seriously regret selling their spots.

For me, sold spot is due to getting an FC660C, liking 65%, and being in LZ-St GB already. If I was digging a bigger layout I never would have left. It will undoubtedly be a show stopper for sure.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: avid on Fri, 28 July 2017, 08:13:33
Forced to withdraw from the gb. I have gray wkl. Paid shipping to Europe. I see that recently held a heated debate on the topic of speculation with spots. Will immediately indicate that only want to return what is paid.

Hello,

I would like to buy your spot. Also in Europe. PM:ing.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 28 July 2017, 09:28:26
I'm not Elrick, but I have a feeling that all of these people selling their spots will eventually seriously regret selling their spots.

For me, sold spot is due to getting an FC660C, liking 65%, and being in LZ-St GB already. If I was digging a bigger layout I never would have left. It will undoubtedly be a show stopper for sure.
Ya I think I'm gonna like the St more also haha. I'm sure the CLS delays will affect the St as well.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 28 July 2017, 18:38:58
Just seen this, a sample of the gray!

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2 (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Fri, 28 July 2017, 18:39:57
Ohhhhhhh that looks sexy AF.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: DanB on Fri, 28 July 2017, 18:41:55
I sold my spot so I could buy an OTD that was suddenly offered to me.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Fri, 28 July 2017, 18:51:01
Just seen this, a sample of the gray!

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2 (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2)

So hyped!


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 19:26:56
It's almost worth $50 to get you to drop this subject.

It was the first & only time I brought up the subject, but I'll take the $50. I'll PM you my paypal.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 19:29:19
Also, you offered that guy $50 first. I don't really think him seeing if it's still the deal is an egregious sin. Unless, he continued to push the issue until the deal fell apart or something.
Yep, he backed out on me.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 July 2017, 20:03:26
Just seen this, a sample of the gray!

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2 (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2)

Alright, alright  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CMYK on Fri, 28 July 2017, 20:19:00
Just seen this, a sample of the gray!

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2 (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2)

Alright, alright  :thumb:

A dark grey.  Absolutely wonderful.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 28 July 2017, 20:42:08
Also, you offered that guy $50 first. I don't really think him seeing if it's still the deal is an egregious sin. Unless, he continued to push the issue until the deal fell apart or something.
Yep, he backed out on me.

If you want one this bad, keep an eye out on the classified after the GB. Don't be salty because he sold to someone else. He had no obligations to sell to you. It is his spot.

Please stop ****ting the thread. We don't need LZ to be annoyed with this garbage.

Thank you.

 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:05:48
Don't be salty because he sold to someone else. He had no obligations to sell to you. It is his spot.
He agreed to sell, I agreed to buy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_contract
There's a whole section of law dedicated to this thing. But I guess it's all "salt."
Please stop ****ting the thread. 
So why make another comment? The conversation had come to it's end until you injected yourself.
We don't need LZ to be annoyed with this garbage.
Ah, now I see why. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sycophancy

This conversation is over unless someone like yourself wants to start it up again.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:15:04
Don't be salty because he sold to someone else. He had no obligations to sell to you. It is his spot.
He agreed to sell, I agreed to buy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_contract
There's a whole section of law dedicated to this thing. But I guess it's all "salt."
Please stop ****ting the thread. 
So why make another comment? The conversation had come to it's end until you injected yourself.
We don't need LZ to be annoyed with this garbage.
Ah, now I see why. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sycophancy

This conversation is over unless someone like yourself wants to start it up again.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/12scWlqkDOzDKo/giphy.webp)

^Everyone reading your posts

Have a nice day, m'lad.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:27:49
Incoherent insult

I get the last word.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: afrokobe on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:44:43
lol what happened here
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:54:34
lol what happened here
Yeah, right?

So what do you think of the colors in the link (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2) from Cocopah's comment? Black or Gray?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 28 July 2017, 21:55:55
lol what happened here

PMs are legally binding, haven't you heard?

/s
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:13:45
lol what happened here

PMs are legally binding, haven't you heard?

/s
Bruh I'll have your lawyers contact my lawyers so we can settle what colored streamers we want on our tricylces.

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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:18:06
PMs are legally binding, haven't you heard?

/s
"A contract does not need to be in writing to be enforceable under the law. If you promise to buy something and someone else promises to sell it to you, you may have just made a contract. Your promise is the same as signing your name to a contract." - http://www.lscd.com/node/393/12-common-legal-mistakes-and-how-avoid-them

Obviously no court on the planet is going to hear a case over keyboards, not even Judge Judy. Well, maybe Judge Judy..

It's the same as if I steal your Chalupa. No cop would arrest me. Regardless both are still illegal and more importantly unethical.

Earlier in the thread there was a discussion about people price gouging. One of the persons who divested themselves of gouging is the same who 'breached our contract'. The only reason I mentioned it was because of the hypocrisy re trade ethics.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:22:50
Bruh I'll have your lawyers contact my lawyers so we can settle what colored streamers we want on our tricylces.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Please stop ****ting the thread. We don't need LZ to be annoyed with this garbage. I thought we were on the same page about this??
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Doluded on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:38:43
lol what happened here
Yeah, right?

So what do you think of the colors in the link (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2) from Cocopah's comment? Black or Gray?
I honestly think it might be black. I hope the black will look darker than that in person, but I figure LZ will deliver nicely.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:40:59
lol what happened here
Yeah, right?

So what do you think of the colors in the link (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2) from Cocopah's comment? Black or Gray?
I honestly think it might be black. I hope the black will look darker than that in person, but I figure LZ will deliver nicely.

I'm pretty sure thats gray on top of black
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Doluded on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:45:01
lol what happened here
Yeah, right?

So what do you think of the colors in the link (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2) from Cocopah's comment? Black or Gray?
I honestly think it might be black. I hope the black will look darker than that in person, but I figure LZ will deliver nicely.

I'm pretty sure thats gray on top of black
Ah yes it is, I'm dumb. I thought there were two grey options at first. Also the black looks great, my phone didn't show the picture as well as I see it now.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:46:57
I honestly think it might be black. I hope the black will look darker than that in person, but I figure LZ will deliver nicely.
They both look good, I only slightly prefer the gray. The primary reason I want to swap my black is because I already have 2 black TKL.
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Doluded on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:52:14
I honestly think it might be black. I hope the black will look darker than that in person, but I figure LZ will deliver nicely.
They both look good, I only slightly prefer the gray. The primary reason I want to swap my black is because I already have 2 black TKL.
Gotta have that variety. Black never gets old for me. Other than my Type-S it's the only color I'll have my boards.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 28 July 2017, 22:53:43
Stop fighting and look at that Amazing Titan Grey we would get, It's coming for peace...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 29 July 2017, 02:18:40
Stop fighting and look at that Amazing Titan Grey we would get, It's coming for peace...

Ti grey is such a nice color.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Sat, 29 July 2017, 08:20:16
Just seen this, a sample of the gray!

http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2 (http://lzlife.tistory.com/entry/LZ-CLS-2)

Only two pictures, what a tease!  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Sat, 29 July 2017, 08:31:02
Is it going to the top or bottom one in that pic? I like the darker one on the bottom..
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 29 July 2017, 09:41:17
Stop fighting and look at that Amazing Titan Grey we would get, It's coming for peace...

I agree! This gray looks clean, especially in WKL! Can't wait for mine! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Is it going to the top or bottom one in that pic? I like the darker one on the bottom..

The top frame is probably the gray one, bottom is black.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: n__dles on Sun, 30 July 2017, 10:15:31
Trading my Black WKL for a Gray or Silver WKL. Will throw in $75 or an AT101 Alps plate & pcb. If I can't find a trade within a week or so I'll give up my spot (sell for actual cost).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 03 August 2017, 20:29:19
Stop fighting and look at that Amazing Titan Grey we would get, It's coming for peace...

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 06 August 2017, 02:55:13
===================
No more change spot.
===================
I will inspect and sort from next 12
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 06 August 2017, 12:52:09
===================
No more change spot.
===================
I will inspect and sort from next 12

Shipping time?!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:11:00
(https://media.giphy.com/media/10Ckk9d2gA2j6g/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Tue, 15 August 2017, 07:59:22
===================
No more change spot.
===================
I will inspect and sort from next 12

Shipping time?!

"next 12" meant next 12 days?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: NoahNHP on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:01:14
===================
No more change spot.
===================
I will inspect and sort from next 12

Shipping time?!

"next 12" meant next 12 days?
Or next 12 hours?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:07:49
Yeah, PayPal protection is running out soon. Hopefully these ship out before that. :(

Edit: It expires by next week, actually.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: rabbitfire on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:16:23
Yeah, PayPal protection is running out soon. Hopefully these ship out before that. :(

Edit: It expires by next week, actually.  :eek:


 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:22:37
It was his plan all along :confused:

(http://i.imgur.com/sADmwcv.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:39:27
It was his plan all along :confused:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sADmwcv.jpg)


lol...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:54:12
It was his plan all along :confused:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/sADmwcv.jpg)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rbBX6aEzEz8

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:15:45
===================
No more change spot.
===================
I will inspect and sort from next 12

Do the CLS Alps plate and Alps PCB happen to support Cherry PCB-mount stabs? Or maybe plate-mount Cherry stabs?
I am wondering if pairing Cherry stabs with Alps-mount keycaps from Signature Plastics will be possible with the CLS.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:47:11
===================
No more change spot.
===================
I will inspect and sort from next 12

Do the CLS Alps plate and Alps PCB happen to support Cherry PCB-mount stabs? Or maybe plate-mount Cherry stabs?
I am wondering if pairing Cherry stabs with Alps-mount keycaps from Signature Plastics will be possible with the CLS.
Alps plate was only support original apls stabs
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:54:56
I know what everyone is worried about. I was delayed by busy company work and a lot of time.
Im working hard to inspect and pack. :D
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nmur on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:02:19
I know what everyone is worried about. I was delayed by busy company work and a lot of time.
Im working hard to inspect and pack. :D
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awwww yyyeaaahh
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: avid on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:03:36
Looks very nice! The black look so beautiful. Do you have more pictures of top? Cant wait!!  :D

Is this for korea or geekhack shipment?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mech0nly on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:09:22
*Heavy breathing*


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:38:09
ELRICK WE NEED YOU!!

"LZ never lets down, always delivers"... something along those lines please. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 15 August 2017, 10:48:50
HAPYPY DEY
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Tue, 15 August 2017, 11:57:07
I know what everyone is worried about. I was delayed by busy company work and a lot of time.
Im working hard to inspect and pack. :D
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Thank you for the update LZ! Black looks amazing. Two questions:

Any pictures of the gray available?

Will EMS shipping be used?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:08:55
Hey LZ, can you check you PM? I PM'ed you on July 31st about change of address. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:35:22
I know what everyone is worried about. I was delayed by busy company work and a lot of time.
Im working hard to inspect and pack. :D
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Thanks for the update.
So excited.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: henz on Tue, 15 August 2017, 13:02:48
aw ****, more keebs coming, im already 2 behind
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Tue, 15 August 2017, 16:31:09
More
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No more change spot.
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I will inspect and sort from next 12

Do the CLS Alps plate and Alps PCB happen to support Cherry PCB-mount stabs? Or maybe plate-mount Cherry stabs?
I am wondering if pairing Cherry stabs with Alps-mount keycaps from Signature Plastics will be possible with the CLS.
Alps plate was only support original apls stabs

Ok, thanks. No DSA LightCycle on my keyboard then.

I know what everyone is worried about. I was delayed by busy company work and a lot of time.
Im working hard to inspect and pack. :D
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Thanks for these teasers as well!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 15 August 2017, 20:45:18
I'm going with SGI "granite" caps on my alps setup :p I hope it works
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CMYK on Tue, 15 August 2017, 21:20:36
I'm still trying to nail down an alps plate/pcb.  Sorry, but my MX plate is going to be a Wyse replica. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 15 August 2017, 21:55:14
Oh crap, I need to source some more switches ASAP! :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kokokoy on Tue, 15 August 2017, 22:31:51
Oh crap, I need to source some more switches ASAP! :confused:

Same here. The ETA for the Cherry silent blacks GB are December; doubt I can wait that long once I have this board.  :(

Anyway thanks LZ for the updates.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: mike52787 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 23:10:34
Going to build my alps plate with SKCM undampened cream and tai hao FAME cherry profile alps keycaps. not sure about the mx plate. probably will leave it unbuilt.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Wed, 16 August 2017, 12:56:47
I'm so torn between vintage blacks or just going rgb silent blacks...ugh.. it's going to be a while before I get my hands on some switches too...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 16 August 2017, 13:03:10
I'm so torn between vintage blacks or just going rgb silent blacks...ugh.. it's going to be a while before I get my hands on some switches too...

RGB Vintage blacks 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: digi on Wed, 16 August 2017, 13:03:51
I'm so torn between vintage blacks or just going rgb silent blacks...ugh.. it's going to be a while before I get my hands on some switches too...

RGB Vintage blacks 

Daaammmnnn, next level! :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: airs on Wed, 16 August 2017, 13:04:29
SKCM Blues for my Alps plate.

I have some Vintage Blacks I was going to use for my MX plate...but I just got in on Zeal Tealios...in addition to the GB for MX Silent Blacks :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CMYK on Wed, 16 August 2017, 13:34:01
I am still looking for Alps plate/pcb.  If anyone is looking to sell theirs let me know.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 16 August 2017, 14:38:05
I'm gonna put in some good ol' 62g ergo clears. I really like them in my Viper and I don't feel like doing experiments.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: nastrovje on Wed, 16 August 2017, 20:17:37
Oh yeah, the time has finally come. Only a bit more waiting. Hyyype!

Skcm Browns under some Dell At101 Dyesubs for me :)

Mx plate no idea yet, yellow Gats maybe? Or some crazy stuff? Time will tell.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Cocopah on Wed, 16 August 2017, 20:41:49
I've been ready for it for a long time. I got hyped a month or 2 back and got everything I need haha. Got the smoothest vintage blacks I've ever tried waiting.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 16 August 2017, 20:43:37
I don't know where to get like 20 cheap clears. I might need to buy some off keyboardco. I used to be able to buy a g80-3000 with clears from amazon for 50 bucks, those are long gone sadly.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 16 August 2017, 20:59:54
Gonna be using some plain old vintage blacks w/ gateron yellow springs. I didn't discover how great alps switches were until it was too late to get an alps PCB/plate :sad:
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Doluded on Sat, 19 August 2017, 02:32:35
Can't believe we'll be getting these soon. I haven't even been waiting that long since I joined late but daaaamn it's seemed like forever.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 19 August 2017, 04:55:16
Today hard workssssssss~
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: avid on Sat, 19 August 2017, 04:58:51
Love the updates!

LZ, do you have pictures of the grey version?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 19 August 2017, 07:24:31
Love the updates!

LZ, do you have pictures of the grey version?
Sure. That's grey

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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 19 August 2017, 07:25:44
Yep, that sure looks like grey.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: avid on Sat, 19 August 2017, 07:26:31
Looks stunning! Thanks for the picture.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 19 August 2017, 10:39:30


Today hard workssssssss~
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Nice

Will we receive tracking info via email when our order ships?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: poolside on Sat, 19 August 2017, 13:50:22
Today hard workssssssss~
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This is getting closer  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 20 August 2017, 12:25:31


Today hard workssssssss~
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Nice

Will we receive tracking info via email when our order ships?

Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 20 August 2017, 12:30:05
TOMORROW AW YEAH!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 20 August 2017, 12:44:36
Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.

Hype! I don't see tracking info though, does that mean I'm on next shipment?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Sun, 20 August 2017, 12:47:22
Cant wait to see everyones builds. Is shipping done in any particular order?

What keysets is everyone going to use with their CLS?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Cocopah on Sun, 20 August 2017, 12:48:50
Cant wait to see everyones builds. Is shipping done in any particular order?

What keysets is everyone going to use with their CLS?

I will be using GMK Burgundy
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 20 August 2017, 12:50:44
I got an enjoypbt Olivetti set with blue enter and blue windowed escape. I hope it looks like I think it will look. Alternatively I can put triumph adler typewriter alphas on there.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Production
Post by: kconfire on Sun, 20 August 2017, 13:10:30


Today hard workssssssss~
(Attachment Link)
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(Attachment Link)

Nice

Will we receive tracking info via email when our order ships?

Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.

I so cannot wait!!! :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 20 August 2017, 17:56:28


Today hard workssssssss~
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Nice

Will we receive tracking info via email when our order ships?

Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.
Okay, cool.
I didn't receive any tracking info yet, but I'll be eagerly waiting
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 20 August 2017, 19:09:05


Today hard workssssssss~
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Nice

Will we receive tracking info via email when our order ships?

Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.
Okay, cool.
I didn't receive any tracking info yet, but I'll be eagerly waiting
I will send tomorrow. haha.
Just wait.... :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 20 August 2017, 21:12:28


Today hard workssssssss~
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Nice

Will we receive tracking info via email when our order ships?

Shipment will start from tomorrow by dividing several times.
tracking numbers were also sent via paypal email address.
Please check your paypal email address.
Okay, cool.
I didn't receive any tracking info yet, but I'll be eagerly waiting
I will send tomorrow. haha.
Just wait.... :D

Just got the tracking info now  :thumb:

Thanks LZ  :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 21 August 2017, 07:39:36
1st delivery complete
5 days after 2nd delivery
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Packing condition
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:28:23
1st delivery complete
5 days after 2nd delivery
(Attachment Link)
Packing condition
(Attachment Link)

Thank you LZ! How many were shipped today? I'm number 16 and I'm wondering which batch I will be in. Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:31:47
Check your paypal email. I got a mail yesterday and mine is currently on the way.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:34:53
Check your paypal email. I got a mail yesterday and mine is currently on the way.

Nothing yet for me. You're before me on the sheet so I'm curious as to where it cut off.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:35:53
Number 23, no tracking. Guess there are quite a few batches going out! Either that or he is still sending out tracking information.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:45:45
Isn't that just sorted by username?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:46:34
I think the order sheet is sorted by time ordered.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 21 August 2017, 08:57:19
Nice, I can get used to this kind of surprise  :thumb:
Also I feel that GB went through pretty fast- although I'm not sure how long the usual wait is for other custom keyboards GB.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 09:03:26
The time frame was pretty average without too many delays, but the trust I had that it would actually finish in a reasonable time and without complications was above average. It felt like a very secure purchase.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 21 August 2017, 09:20:46
The time frame was pretty average without too many delays, but the trust I had that it would actually finish in a reasonable time and without complications was above average. It felt like a very secure purchase.

I see, I think LZ's good communication made the whole process feel more secure. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 21 August 2017, 18:00:51
Is there a someone  want to trade with my dolphine2(em7 ver., not assembled, top black/bottom gold)???
Please pm.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:32:46
Got the tracking, thanks boss
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Goon on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:37:38
That's weird I'm order number 20 no tracking here :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:46:05
Just got tracking today and I'm #1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CMYK on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:56:48
Got my tracking number as well, and I'm #8.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: odd on Mon, 21 August 2017, 21:10:14
Just got my tracking #  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

My first LZ. GMK Hydro has been waiting for this board, woowoo!!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 21 August 2017, 22:44:20
That's weird I'm order number 20 no tracking here :(

Ours says it shipped, but I'm guessing tracking will be coming soon!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: gadzkun on Mon, 21 August 2017, 23:16:03
got my tracking cant wait for my alps LZ :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 22 August 2017, 01:43:56
Got my tracking as well, Thank you LZ  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Panzerhawx on Tue, 22 August 2017, 02:47:21
Just got my tracking number, but apparently you shipped to my Paypal address - not the one I specified back on the naver form.

I emailed you about it - do you think you could check?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 22 August 2017, 03:18:53
Just got my tracking number, but apparently you shipped to my Paypal address - not the one I specified back on the naver form.

I emailed you about it - do you think you could check?

Orders that do not have a separate request are shipped to the address of the order.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Alexiz on Tue, 22 August 2017, 03:21:50
Got my tracking as well, can't wait! :]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:54:53
Was the tracking number directly from PayPal or was it an email to the PayPal email? Still haven't received anything yet despite mine saying shipped :(.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:56:32
It was an email from PayPal directly notifying me that LZ added a shipping number.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 22 August 2017, 09:51:23
It was an email from PayPal directly notifying me that LZ added a shipping number.

OK, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Tue, 22 August 2017, 16:55:55
1st delivery complete
5 days after 2nd delivery
(Attachment Link)
Packing condition
(Attachment Link)



Just looked at these pics zoomed in, in a new window, and holy hell the attention to detail is godlike. The carrying case looks super high quality too. Thanks LZ can't wait to get it!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:21:19
1st delivery complete
5 days after 2nd delivery
(Attachment Link)
Packing condition
(Attachment Link)



Just looked at these pics zoomed in, in a new window, and holy hell the attention to detail is godlike. The carrying case looks super high quality too. Thanks LZ can't wait to get it!

I am very glad I got in with this GB.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:23:11
IT'S HAPPENING BOYS
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:34:47
Cant wait until everyone start posting pics. Have you guys sourced all the parts for your builds? I've not. This went quicker than i expected.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 22 August 2017, 18:38:30
No I need 20 mx clears and I refuse to believe that my only option is to buy them for 1,30€ a piece from the UK. I have everything else though, provided that my lube is still good.

MX Clears
Gateron Clears (for modifiers)
62g springs
yellow switch stickers
SIP sockets
EnjoyPBT Olivetti and GMK blue Enter and Esc.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: lvince95 on Tue, 22 August 2017, 19:00:43
Just looked at these pics zoomed in, in a new window, and holy hell the attention to detail is godlike. The carrying case looks super high quality too. Thanks LZ can't wait to get it!

I have the 1800/CP version of the bag, and I can confirm that the carrying case is really high quality  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Tue, 22 August 2017, 19:57:23
Mine just arrived in my country last night!!! I still didn't start lubing dem switches tho.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: hyonglaw on Tue, 22 August 2017, 21:26:32
anyone thinking about selling or trading the Winkeyless version of this board after you get it, please pm me :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 22 August 2017, 21:47:40
Mine just arrived in my country last night!!! I still didn't start lubing dem switches tho.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

We need pictures!!!!!!!! :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 22 August 2017, 22:06:41
This one single group buy is making up for a year of crappy group buys... m65a, mira, e8-v1, godspeed, xda mito, planck, and a hand full of other **** shows i've bought into this year... LZ has kept me excited, updated, and I cant wait for my doorbell to ring in a couple days!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Tue, 22 August 2017, 22:32:15
mine has also reached my city, hope it doesn't sit there for too long like some things tend to do!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 22 August 2017, 23:00:06
This one single group buy is making up for a year of crappy group buys... m65a, mira, e8-v1, godspeed, xda mito, planck, and a hand full of other **** shows i've bought into this year... LZ has kept me excited, updated, and I cant wait for my doorbell to ring in a couple days!

lol those things you listed... are they ever going to be delivered to you? hahah
I'm very, and very excited to receive my built LZ-CLS, assembled by the master LZ! :P

My LZ-CLS will have a new Cherry MX Black with 60g springs, with film/lube tunes.

Seriously cannot wait to receive mine and just put the keycaps on  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Tue, 22 August 2017, 23:12:15
Mine just arrived in my country last night!!! I still didn't start lubing dem switches tho.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

We need pictures!!!!!!!! :eek:
It didn't deliver to my house yet, but I hope it will within tomorrow.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 22 August 2017, 23:48:35
Just got mine!

(http://i.imgur.com/XOtkYPo.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 23 August 2017, 00:08:35
Just got mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XOtkYPo.jpg)


Holy ****! I couldn't tell from the other pics that LZ post how big that fiber cloth really is.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Wed, 23 August 2017, 00:51:56
Just got mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XOtkYPo.jpg)


Omg supah sexy! More pics stat!

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Wed, 23 August 2017, 00:56:25
Just got mine!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XOtkYPo.jpg)


hell yeah

that was so fast
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kokokoy on Wed, 23 August 2017, 00:57:44
Just got mine!

Nice! Makes me want to leave work and go straight home. Mine got delivered also this morning.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 23 August 2017, 02:48:19
 Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 23 August 2017, 07:06:49
Hot pic!

Mine is also now in the german import center :o
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Wed, 23 August 2017, 07:12:39
The grey is amazing. thanks for the pics beamingrobot.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kokokoy on Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:10:06
Need to have a proper look at this during the day. But the grey is way better than I was assuming it would be based on the OP.

Thanks for the smooth GB LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:23:05
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

The gray is beautiful! Can't wait to get mine (also gray). Thanks for sharing beaming!

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:29:45
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

The gray is beautiful! Can't wait to get mine (also gray). Thanks for sharing beaming!

Same here, I got the WKL variant! Thanks beaming!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:33:40
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:59:44
this shipped with TX87 PCB correct?

yep, in the parts list in the OP it's there
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 23 August 2017, 11:16:29
Alright, ordered some more switches, keyboard's in germany already, everything is coming my way. This is great.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Wed, 23 August 2017, 11:44:37
Same here, I got the WKL variant! Thanks beaming!

Same here, will be my first WKL TKL :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: mike52787 on Wed, 23 August 2017, 23:38:55
board is in the US now. I can't wait! so hyped!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Wed, 23 August 2017, 23:41:46
mine has arrived in australia :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 23 August 2017, 23:53:46
While everyone is getting theirs... I was just looking at the order sheet and it got me thinking, damn, this user rabbitfire must be really lucky to have only one of one Silver LZ-CLS TKL.  His keyboard is 1/1 when it comes to Silver and Winkey! lol  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 23 August 2017, 23:57:08
While everyone is getting theirs... I was just looking at the order sheet and it got me thinking, damn, this user rabbitfire must be really lucky to have only one with the Silver LZ-CLS TKL.  His keyboard is 1/1 when it comes to Silver and Winkey! lol  :thumb:

lmao
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 00:11:43
While everyone is getting theirs... I was just looking at the order sheet and it got me thinking, damn, this user rabbitfire must be really lucky to have only one with the Silver LZ-CLS TKL.  His keyboard is 1/1 when it comes to Silver and Winkey! lol  :thumb:

I love little quirks like that in spreadsheets.

I'll have one of 3 all silver alu MIRAs, which is cool.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 00:25:26
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)
Very nice dude

Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 24 August 2017, 05:26:23
So glad to see people happy with this buy, what a turnaround from the Redline days, eh?  :D

Amazing boards as always LZ, your partnership on the bags etc. with kin has me excited to see what's next!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 24 August 2017, 05:29:50
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

If you want to keep the LZ brass clean I'd recommend not doing fingerprint checks, hand oils very quickly tarnish!

Lemon juice + baking soda mixed to a toothpaste consistency to clean brass ;)

And for others wanting to protect, a common method is covering the exposed side of brass with an iPad screen protector (or maybe two with those huge weights!)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Thu, 24 August 2017, 05:35:09
quick shot of the black 

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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 07:56:33
quick shot of the black 

(Attachment Link)

Sickkkkk I can't wait for mine :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 08:53:59
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 08:55:35
quick shot of the black 

(Attachment Link)

almost looks glossy at that angle.

I wish this board / most korean boards would lower their damn angle.

I would have totally bought this if it wasn't so high

Angles for Kustom points! lol
Never had an issue with an angle- don't you use a wrist rest or palm rest?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Thu, 24 August 2017, 08:58:45
quick shot of the black 

(Attachment Link)

almost looks glossy at that angle.

I wish this board / most korean boards would lower their damn angle.

I would have totally bought this if it wasn't so high

Angles for Kustom points! lol
Never had an issue with an angle- don't you use a wrist rest or palm rest?
definitely not matte like a 456gt

im used to typing at whatever angle a HHKB is at. this will be an adjustment for sure.

wrist rest doesn't have an effect on typing angle because you're not resting on it during typing

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 08:59:19
My tracking says mine just arrived in West Palm Beach!
Woo Hoo  :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:21:13
My tracking says mine just arrived in West Palm Beach!
Woo Hoo  :)

We need pics of your beauty when it arrives!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:22:34
quick shot of the black 

(Attachment Link)

almost looks glossy at that angle.

I wish this board / most korean boards would lower their damn angle.

I would have totally bought this if it wasn't so high

Angles for Kustom points! lol
Never had an issue with an angle- don't you use a wrist rest or palm rest?
definitely not matte like a 456gt

im used to typing at whatever angle a HHKB is at. this will be an adjustment for sure.

wrist rest doesn't have an effect on typing angle because you're not resting on it during typing

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Ah, I see, that makes sense.
I'm also used to HHKB angle as I use it at work, as well as Unicorn X3 (one of the Kustom keyboards that wasn't available in the states), but I am fine with both..

I guess there's one way to find out.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:23:49
My tracking says mine just arrived in West Palm Beach!
Woo Hoo  :)
We need pics of your beauty when it arrives!

Will do  :thumb: 
Even tho it's already here, the estimated delivery date is this Sat.?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:26:49
Estimated delivery for me is today!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:39:13
For me it says it has been delivered to a city 30 minutes away from me :D Let's see what comes out of this.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:41:30
For me it says it has been delivered to a city 30 minutes away from me :D Let's see what comes out of this.

That's awesome!! :D
I wish I could have mine this week :P
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:44:46
I mean, the tracking says that it has been delivered. Like it's done, it's there. So either the korean tracking stops right there and it goes its merry way to my doorstep without further tracking, or some lucky punk got my keyboard by accident.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:50:33
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:17:29
quick shot of the black 

(Attachment Link)

almost looks glossy at that angle.

I wish this board / most korean boards would lower their damn angle.

I would have totally bought this if it wasn't so high

Angles for Kustom points! lol
Never had an issue with an angle- don't you use a wrist rest or palm rest?
definitely not matte like a 456gt

im used to typing at whatever angle a HHKB is at. this will be an adjustment for sure.

wrist rest doesn't have an effect on typing angle because you're not resting on it during typing

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Ah, I see, that makes sense.
I'm also used to HHKB angle as I use it at work, as well as Unicorn X3 (one of the Kustom keyboards that wasn't available in the states), but I am fine with both..

I guess there's one way to find out.

I commonly switch between G80-5000, Topre, Model M etc.  OEM boards tend to not exceed 7 degrees.  Anything above that, why bother with a kustom kit when I have to spend $500+ I will just wait til another GB comes along with a realistic angle

Gotcha.
Well, I'll see how I like it or dislike it.  In the unlikely event that I cannot get used to the angle, I can always sell mine. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:25:36
I can't believe how fast shipping from Korea is showing up for everyone. Mine should be here today! yeeeehhaawwww!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:30:53
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

If you want to keep the LZ brass clean I'd recommend not doing fingerprint checks, hand oils very quickly tarnish!

Lemon juice + baking soda mixed to a toothpaste consistency to clean brass ;)

And for others wanting to protect, a common method is covering the exposed side of brass with an iPad screen protector (or maybe two with those huge weights!)

Thanks for the tip! It came with the fingerprints though, so I'll just take it as a blessing from LZ god himself.

And the black looks so sexy
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:31:27
My Duck Viper has 11° I believe and I have no issues with it. On the other end of the spectrum, my Orion v2 is about 6° with the new feet I bought, still no issues to adapt fairly quickly.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 10:34:26
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

If you want to keep the LZ brass clean I'd recommend not doing fingerprint checks, hand oils very quickly tarnish!

Lemon juice + baking soda mixed to a toothpaste consistency to clean brass ;)

And for others wanting to protect, a common method is covering the exposed side of brass with an iPad screen protector (or maybe two with those huge weights!)

Thanks for the tip! It came with the fingerprints though, so I'll just take it as a blessing from LZ god himself.

And the black looks so sexy

Buy a can of brass lacquer for $20. That's the proper way to protect brass.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:10:42
I can't believe how fast shipping from Korea is showing up for everyone. Mine should be here today! yeeeehhaawwww!

After all, shipping is via EMS.
Expedited Mailing Service!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:12:38
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

If you want to keep the LZ brass clean I'd recommend not doing fingerprint checks, hand oils very quickly tarnish!

Lemon juice + baking soda mixed to a toothpaste consistency to clean brass ;)

And for others wanting to protect, a common method is covering the exposed side of brass with an iPad screen protector (or maybe two with those huge weights!)

Thanks for the tip! It came with the fingerprints though, so I'll just take it as a blessing from LZ god himself.

And the black looks so sexy

Buy a can of brass lacquer for $20. That's the proper way to protect brass.

Also a pain to remove and will affect the look. But yeah, you can get satin or gloss finishes I believe.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:20:50
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

If you want to keep the LZ brass clean I'd recommend not doing fingerprint checks, hand oils very quickly tarnish!

Lemon juice + baking soda mixed to a toothpaste consistency to clean brass ;)

And for others wanting to protect, a common method is covering the exposed side of brass with an iPad screen protector (or maybe two with those huge weights!)

Thanks for the tip! It came with the fingerprints though, so I'll just take it as a blessing from LZ god himself.

And the black looks so sexy

Buy a can of brass lacquer for $20. That's the proper way to protect brass.

Also a pain to remove and will affect the look. But yeah, you can get satin or gloss finishes I believe.

Anyone try Plastidip (gloss finish) to semi-seal the brass part? lol
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:23:10
Moar potatoes  (http://imgur.com/a/UVlQm)

If you want to keep the LZ brass clean I'd recommend not doing fingerprint checks, hand oils very quickly tarnish!

Lemon juice + baking soda mixed to a toothpaste consistency to clean brass ;)

And for others wanting to protect, a common method is covering the exposed side of brass with an iPad screen protector (or maybe two with those huge weights!)

Thanks for the tip! It came with the fingerprints though, so I'll just take it as a blessing from LZ god himself.

And the black looks so sexy

Buy a can of brass lacquer for $20. That's the proper way to protect brass.

I'll protect your brass pal
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:29:32
I picked up some of this to seal a copper plate, will report back this weekend: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DCU12PG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:30:42
Got mine in today! Wow. Just amazing.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:36:37
I'll have to look it over better tonight.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZYmH2rH.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:37:21
Got mine in today! Wow. Just amazing.  :eek:

You can't just say that and not post pictures... :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:38:22
What's more relieving than coming home from work and see this.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: rustywok on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:39:12
Mine is scheduled for delivery today. Says it was "rescheduled" but I never did look up the original delivery day so no idea what it was. I changed my order soon after I made it and looks like I forgot to cancel the SS weight when I switched to brass.  Now I have a SS AND a brass weight coming. Should have studied my order more carefully, I guess. Although I'm 1 of 2 for an LZ-CLS with both types of weights, so there is that. 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:43:35
told myself i'd only make a start on the build tonight, but got carried away...

og cherry doubleshots on vintage blacks. sip sockets too, just need to cut some leds. more photos on the weekend, gotta sleep now  :confused:

(http://i.imgur.com/a9b23ia.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ceaEpnW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/a2laxEi.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:47:41
told myself i'd only make a start on the build tonight, but got carried away...

og cherry doubleshots on vintage blacks. sip sockets too, just need to cut some leds. more photos on the weekend, gotta sleep now  :confused:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/a9b23ia.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ceaEpnW.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/a2laxEi.jpg)


Omg, a fully built CLS already?!

Well done, it looks amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:58:03
The black is amazing. Now someone need to post their silver.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:08:05
Delayed, argh! At least I'll have it for the weekend.

(http://i.imgur.com/hoeKJtB.png)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:11:07
I'll have to look it over better tonight.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYmH2rH.jpg)


Yay, it arrived! How does the gray compare to your KMAC2?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:12:51
I'll have to look it over better tonight.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYmH2rH.jpg)


Yay, it arrived! How does the gray compare to your KMAC2?

The CLS looks like it has some more slight blue hues to the grey then the KMAC2.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:36:44
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:47:13
I'll have to look it over better tonight.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYmH2rH.jpg)


Yay, it arrived! How does the gray compare to your KMAC2?

The CLS looks like it has some more slight blue hues to the grey then the KMAC2.

Is it a lot more blue? Man! Not sure now...some pictures look like a dark gray, some look like a lighter blue!

How about a comparison to your X60?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:08:19
I'll have to look it over better tonight.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYmH2rH.jpg)


Yay, it arrived! How does the gray compare to your KMAC2?

The CLS looks like it has some more slight blue hues to the grey then the KMAC2.

Is it a lot more blue? Man! Not sure now...some pictures look like a dark gray, some look like a lighter blue!

How about a comparison to your X60?
It's darker then the X60. It's not really blue looking to me, but it does have more blue hue then the KMAC2.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:50:07
So USPS trolled me when they said it was delayed till tomorrow - my CLS is in my lap as I type this!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:55:39
So USPS trolled me when they said it was delayed till tomorrow - my CLS is in my lap as I type this!

Awesome! How does the gray look to you? I've seen so many pictures it's confusing me!!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:02:24
https://www.amazon.com/RED-SHIELD-Anti-Scratch-Anti-Fingerprint-Guidelines/dp/B00NMR6EWQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1503596169&sr=8-3&keywords=universal+screen+protector

Just get this.  Polish the brass once, then put this over it. that's what all the koreans do. 

if you want to be "jdm" yo

Bro, what the hell.
You mention of what Koreans do in regards to "K"ustom keyboards and drop that JDM.. lol

I hope you meant KDM.
-Korean American
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:03:49
So USPS trolled me when they said it was delayed till tomorrow - my CLS is in my lap as I type this!

Awesome! How does the gray look to you? I've seen so many pictures it's confusing me!!!

I think it looks outstanding! I'm not getting a blue hint, at least in this light.

Potato pics. LZ CLS in gray with Duck Octagon v2 in silver.

(http://i.imgur.com/wKAxnaX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xPArTAc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsccNZX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/K0pnGCj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8XKH3TQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/37dD7C2.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:05:04
Did anyone post pics of a silver board yet?

(http://i.imgur.com/8iO5Tko.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/z05885x.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YXEmC5o.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:11:23
So USPS trolled me when they said it was delayed till tomorrow - my CLS is in my lap as I type this!

Awesome! How does the gray look to you? I've seen so many pictures it's confusing me!!!

I think it looks outstanding! I'm not getting a blue hint, at least in this light.

Potato pics. LZ CLS in gray with Duck Octagon v2 in silver.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wKAxnaX.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xPArTAc.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsccNZX.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/K0pnGCj.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/8XKH3TQ.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/37dD7C2.jpg)


Wow, that looks awesome- look at that grey!!!! hnggggg
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:11:40
amazing pics. The silver might actually be the most beautiful colorway.

A small breakdown of the colors.

BLACK: (20) - 24%
-WK: 6
-WKL: 14
Silver: (14) - 17%
-WK: 1
-WKL: 13
Grey (49) - 59%
-WK: 12
-WKL: 37

Its quite interesting to note that there is more WKL in grey than there is black + silver in both layouts combined.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:39:16
amazing pics. The silver might actually be the most beautiful colorway.

A small breakdown of the colors.

BLACK: (20) - 24%
-WK: 6
-WKL: 14
Silver: (14) - 17%
-WK: 1
-WKL: 13
Grey (49) - 59%
-WK: 12
-WKL: 37

Its quite interesting to note that there is more WKL in grey than there is black + silver in both layouts combined.

Also note that there are only 6 Black WK, and only **1** Silver WK.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:44:34
Got my tracking as well, Thank you LZ  ;D

My dude!

Can't wait to see what you do with it :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: odd on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:52:56
I got mine in at work today, wow that was fast shipping  :p :p :p I cannot wait till this weekend when I can build it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 24 August 2017, 15:06:15
Anyone else planning to put Kekkon's Dolch on their CLS?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 24 August 2017, 15:13:23
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: rustywok on Thu, 24 August 2017, 15:40:04
A few detail pics.
(http://i.imgur.com/gaxK9uV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hlmZ27x.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/677oMv7.jpg)

This last shot is of the SS and Brass weights. SS is a mirror finish.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Thu, 24 August 2017, 15:50:14
Was there a price diff in SS and brass weight? The brass is just so nice.

To the guy asking about dolch, i didnt participate in the kekkon gb, but might try to pick up a set for mine once it ship.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: rustywok on Thu, 24 August 2017, 15:55:22
Was there a price diff in SS and brass weight? The brass is just so nice.

I honestly don't remember but I'm guessing the brass was more? I screwed up the order on my end. Had a flurry of changes, switched from SS to brass and somehow left the SS on the order. I kept meaning to contact LZ about it but never did.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 24 August 2017, 17:42:47
Brass and SS were the same price, IIRC. I don't have the pricing for this one saved in my sheet, so I can't be sure.

Dark grey is a VERY hard color to do right, especially with this alloy of aluminum (6061), so I suspect that's why it's not quite perfectly grey. This is actually the reason the MIRA uses 6063, so that they can get the lunar grey to look right.

Every alloy of aluminum gives a slightly different color overtone, and every anodizing pool gives a slightly different color. That's why sometimes you'll see Chinese GBs talking about "bad pools." The benefit to 6061, however, is that it gives dark grey overtones to whatever color you anodize it.

Most of this information is available on the AAC's website, http://www.anodizing.org/ (http://www.anodizing.org/).

Fun fact, the AAC also regulates the price of the process, so it should never cost more than $150 (and even that is generous) to have something the size of a keyboard stripped and reanodized in the US. Generally the cost only gets raised if you need over 100 parts anodized, and that depends on the shop.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: mindxthinker on Thu, 24 August 2017, 19:41:59
Those are hot!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 24 August 2017, 20:50:31
Brass and stainless steel plates have some scratches.
hope you understand. I made a hairline with my hands.
I was surprised at the muscles in my forearm.  ;)

Brass is weak in fingerprints and sweat, and discoloration occurs.
It can be removed or protected with a clear coating or scratching.
self re-finishing(hair line)
One direction...
use to
https://www.amazon.com/Scotch-Brite-Heavy-Scrub-Sponge-Count/dp/B004IR3044/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1503625788&sr=8-1&keywords=scotch+brite
haha... ;D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Cocopah on Thu, 24 August 2017, 21:01:26
(http://i.imgur.com/2SWVRcI.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CMYK on Fri, 25 August 2017, 00:50:32
Received mine today, and packaging was perfect. Bag is awesome. Machining is great, and the blue tint to the grey is pretty nice.  The tint doesn't show up in my photos.

I apologize for the spam, but at this point I'm pretty desperate for an Alps plate, and pcb.  If anyone has one for sale just let me know.

(http://i.imgur.com/fwY0NNi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/eY0Rwoo.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 04:10:34
My tracking still says "delivered" but it's not here yet :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CornCha0s on Fri, 25 August 2017, 04:58:19
My tracking still says "delivered" but it's not here yet :(

It probably got delivered to your local customs office. I have to pick mine up from there as well :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 04:59:52
My tracking still says "delivered" but it's not here yet :(

It probably got delivered to your local customs office. I have to pick mine up from there as well :(

Which is odd, because my Orion got shipped directly to my house. Heck the customs office! :'(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 05:21:27
My tracking still says "delivered" but it's not here yet :(

It probably got delivered to your local customs office. I have to pick mine up from there as well :(

Which is odd, because my Orion got shipped directly to my house. Heck the customs office! :'(
German customs is a clusterfk right now, ever since December EVERYTHING I got from outside the EU (with one exception which was a bubblemailer) landed at the customs office for me. When I asked them what was going on they said that they've never been that busy since 2010. Probably trying all they can to get in more money.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: wodan on Fri, 25 August 2017, 05:27:08

German customs is a clusterfk right now, ever since December EVERYTHING I got from outside the EU (with one exception which was a bubblemailer) landed at the customs office for me. When I asked them what was going on they said that they've never been that busy since 2010. Probably trying all they can to get in more money.

Same here. They can't even tell me WHAT is wrong with the declaration on the parcels ...

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 07:17:07

German customs is a clusterfk right now, ever since December EVERYTHING I got from outside the EU (with one exception which was a bubblemailer) landed at the customs office for me. When I asked them what was going on they said that they've never been that busy since 2010. Probably trying all they can to get in more money.

Same here. They can't even tell me WHAT is wrong with the declaration on the parcels ...

At my customs office they told me that every commercial package NEEDS a copy of an invoice or any other type of payment confirmation on the outside, kinda like Massdrop does it. Duck also did this with my Black Bird, but I got that before everything went to sht so I don't know if that even still works. No words about private shipments like these though.

What really put me off is that it wasn't really necessary before and I couldn't find anything about that elsewhere. So, in further investigation I tried to get someone who knows what's going on on the phone but it felt like a waste of time, the people from the import office in Speyer (who apparently does all the stuff from the US) told me that they basically never (unless it's a sender known to fake invoices, I asked them if a few vendors were on there but they weren't) send anything with an invoice inside to be picked up at the customs office, which can't be the truth because I had to pick up more than five correctly declared packages with an invoice inside from the customs office this year. NONE of them were opened prior to me opening them at the customs office.
No one really knows what's even going on, it feels like talking to 6 different people will get you 7 different answers right now.

tl;dr: It sucks being a keyboard enthusiast in Germany right now.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 07:19:40
Seems like there is an easy solution to our problem. German custom boards when??

Color choices: Schwarzwald Black, Nordsee Blue, Weißwurst Silver
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 07:34:20
Seems like there is an easy solution to our problem. German custom boards when??

Color choices: Schwarzwald Black, Nordsee Blue, Weißwurst Silver

gl finding a manufacturer here that does small quantities at non-absurd pricing. I'd be all for it though  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Fri, 25 August 2017, 07:35:29
German customs seems to be a frequent problem. Do you guys usually get hit with large custom-fees?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 07:37:53
I can remember that I had to pay around 30€ for my Orion v2. Custom fees for this board can only be more expensive.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Fri, 25 August 2017, 07:38:25
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Fri, 25 August 2017, 09:19:27
anyone else with pretty high friction with these pcb mounted stabs that came with the kit? i know cherry stabs are pretty sticky in comparison, but i haven't felt ones like these. i don't think it's the keyset, as they feel fine on other cherry stabs on a winkeyless board that i have. i've tried lubing them with some thick krytox, and it helps a bit, but still not great.

i guess this might be a problem with these TX87 PCBs..? do i just need to wear them in?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 25 August 2017, 09:29:49
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)


Huh, good eye. That's very odd.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: handcraftedbits on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:07:58
Got mine today. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:09:23
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)

I honestly can't see the variation you're referring to.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:12:22
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)

I honestly can't see the variation you're referring to.

Same. All of those look the same to me.

I even did my patented "draw red lines next to them in paint until I notice something" technique, and I still can't tell.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:13:11
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)

I honestly can't see the variation you're referring to.

Same. All of those look the same to me.

I even did my patented "draw red lines next to them in paint until I notice something" technique, and I still can't tell.

Someone pointed out to me that some look extruded while some look engraved.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:14:23
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)

I honestly can't see the variation you're referring to.

Same. All of those look the same to me.

I even did my patented "draw red lines next to them in paint until I notice something" technique, and I still can't tell.

Someone pointed out to me that some look extruded while some look engraved.

Probably just a trick of the eye. As far as I know they're all engraved.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 25 August 2017, 12:31:55
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)

I honestly can't see the variation you're referring to.

Same. All of those look the same to me.

I even did my patented "draw red lines next to them in paint until I notice something" technique, and I still can't tell.

Someone pointed out to me that some look extruded while some look engraved.

Probably just a trick of the eye. As far as I know they're all engraved.

That was my guess as well.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kiwi99 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:41:02
Anyone notice the variation of the way the logos were cut?

(Attachment Link)

Its a lighting illusion like this

 (https://therealweeklyshow.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/indent-illusion.jpg?w=600)

that you're seeing I think.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: seblove on Fri, 25 August 2017, 19:17:22
If any of you clever blokes got an extra CLS pcb and is willing to part with it for more than you paid, please let me know! I didn't realize this pcb fits the non-standard OTD 456gt case, and I'm desperately in need of a replacement pcb for mine (person I bought it from soldered like they were very, very drunk). Would be amazing if someone could help me out.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: zaerst on Fri, 25 August 2017, 21:19:20
Got mine today. Two small gashes on my SS weight. :(
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 26 August 2017, 04:44:51
I just got a letter from the post office (which is, of course, closed until monday) that it's ready for pick up :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 26 August 2017, 12:05:16
If any of you clever blokes got an extra CLS pcb and is willing to part with it for more than you paid, please let me know! I didn't realize this pcb fits the non-standard OTD 456gt case, and I'm desperately in need of a replacement pcb for mine (person I bought it from soldered like they were very, very drunk). Would be amazing if someone could help me out.

This was just a TX87, right? Message kin on telegram, he has extra.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 26 August 2017, 13:05:26
If any of you clever blokes got an extra CLS pcb and is willing to part with it for more than you paid, please let me know! I didn't realize this pcb fits the non-standard OTD 456gt case, and I'm desperately in need of a replacement pcb for mine (person I bought it from soldered like they were very, very drunk). Would be amazing if someone could help me out.

This was just a TX87, right? Message kin on telegram, he has extra.
Yeah, I was about to mention the same thing.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: seblove on Sat, 26 August 2017, 18:00:16
If any of you clever blokes got an extra CLS pcb and is willing to part with it for more than you paid, please let me know! I didn't realize this pcb fits the non-standard OTD 456gt case, and I'm desperately in need of a replacement pcb for mine (person I bought it from soldered like they were very, very drunk). Would be amazing if someone could help me out.

This was just a TX87, right? Message kin on telegram, he has extra.
Yeah, I was about to mention the same thing.

I thought so as well, but I looked up photos from some tx87 builds and the pcb says "TX87KIN L3" whereas the CLS one says "TKL87 L3" ... They may very well be the same, I'll ask Kin. All is well though, LZ is getting me a few extras. Thanks all.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 18:23:18
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 26 August 2017, 18:38:07
It was a joy building this beast. The plate came a little dirty, nothing some cleaners couldn't do:

(http://i.imgur.com/583i1kH.jpg)


http://imgur.com/a/U9Dnu

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Sat, 26 August 2017, 19:29:47
It was a joy building this beast. The plate came a little dirty, nothing some cleaners couldn't do:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/583i1kH.jpg)



http://imgur.com/a/U9Dnu


is that you? lol
sounded really sweet, and nice build!

May I ask what kind of soldering iron/station you use for your stuff as well as the kind of solder? :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Tally810 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 19:31:26
It was a joy building this beast. The plate came a little dirty, nothing some cleaners couldn't do:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/583i1kH.jpg)



http://imgur.com/a/U9Dnu
very nice dude love the blue alert set with it

Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 26 August 2017, 19:34:27
It was a joy building this beast. The plate came a little dirty, nothing some cleaners couldn't do:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/583i1kH.jpg)



http://imgur.com/a/U9Dnu

Really nice friggin build, homie!!!

Going to have to go big with the Stan to keep up...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: seblove on Sat, 26 August 2017, 19:37:51
[attach=5][attach=6][attach=7][attach=8]
If any of you clever blokes got an extra CLS pcb and is willing to part with it for more than you paid, please let me know! I didn't realize this pcb fits the non-standard OTD 456gt case, and I'm desperately in need of a replacement pcb for mine (person I bought it from soldered like they were very, very drunk). Would be amazing if someone could help me out.

This was just a TX87, right? Message kin on telegram, he has extra.
Yeah, I was about to mention the same thing.

I thought so as well, but I looked up photos from some tx87 builds and the pcb says "TX87KIN L3" whereas the CLS one says "TKL87 L3" ... They may very well be the same, I'll ask Kin. All is well though, LZ is getting me a few extras. Thanks all.

For 456GT, you may have to desolder the USB port, but you can wire it it to another through hole area on it.  maybe have to file down the the edge where the USB port sticks out on the pcb. 

How does your 456GT compare to the LZ?  A lot of people say the design is similar, not a bad thing though.S

I prepared for the USB port already in the most iconoclastic way possible :D
[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4]And they are super similar, just a more severe angle on the OTD. Cannot wait to have both of these built up, hopefully tomorrow I'll have time for the CLS.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 19:44:07
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Sat, 26 August 2017, 20:37:32
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
If any of you clever blokes got an extra CLS pcb and is willing to part with it for more than you paid, please let me know! I didn't realize this pcb fits the non-standard OTD 456gt case, and I'm desperately in need of a replacement pcb for mine (person I bought it from soldered like they were very, very drunk). Would be amazing if someone could help me out.

This was just a TX87, right? Message kin on telegram, he has extra.
Yeah, I was about to mention the same thing.

I thought so as well, but I looked up photos from some tx87 builds and the pcb says "TX87KIN L3" whereas the CLS one says "TKL87 L3" ... They may very well be the same, I'll ask Kin. All is well though, LZ is getting me a few extras. Thanks all.

For 456GT, you may have to desolder the USB port, but you can wire it it to another through hole area on it.  maybe have to file down the the edge where the USB port sticks out on the pcb. 

How does your 456GT compare to the LZ?  A lot of people say the design is similar, not a bad thing though.S

I prepared for the USB port already in the most iconoclastic way possible :D
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) And they are super similar, just a more severe angle on the OTD. Cannot wait to have both of these built up, hopefully tomorrow I'll have time for the CLS.

got some balls there
Tkl 87 pcb is not compatible with 456. Otd is a proprietary standard
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: seblove on Sat, 26 August 2017, 21:25:05
^^ are you sure LZ? Because the CLS plate lines up perfectly with my old OTD pcb, so aside from the usb port I can't see the issue.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 26 August 2017, 21:29:48
^^ are you sure LZ? Because the CLS plate lines up perfectly with my old OTD pcb, so aside from the usb port I can't see the issue.

He's talking about the USB port, I think.

I know that the "well" that the PCB sits in is also smaller in an OTD than it is in a TX87 board, but a 456GT is huge, so who knows.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 27 August 2017, 12:42:06
It was a joy building this beast. The plate came a little dirty, nothing some cleaners couldn't do:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/583i1kH.jpg)



http://imgur.com/a/U9Dnu


is that you? lol
sounded really sweet, and nice build!

May I ask what kind of soldering iron/station you use for your stuff as well as the kind of solder? :D

Thanks!

Haha yes that's mine.

The soldering iron is a Hakko 888 and I recommend Kester 44 solder (0.031" diameter).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: mike52787 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 15:04:23
Got my CLS all built a few days ago, and I almost forgot to post the pics here.

I took a really ****ty video of me unboxing it, here it is:


And here is the imgur album with my potato iphone shots.

http://imgur.com/a/CgeZF (http://imgur.com/a/CgeZF)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 27 August 2017, 21:05:50
^^ are you sure LZ? Because the CLS plate lines up perfectly with my old OTD pcb, so aside from the usb port I can't see the issue.

Hey seblove,
Well I think I'm incompatible.
It is not just a USB port problem.
Please assemble all switches.
I am 100% sure. Not compatible.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 August 2017, 22:48:50
^^ are you sure LZ? Because the CLS plate lines up perfectly with my old OTD pcb, so aside from the usb port I can't see the issue.

Hey seblove,
Well I think I'm incompatible.
It is not just a USB port problem.
Please assemble all switches.
I am 100% sure. Not compatible.

I trust LZ on this one, since he helped design some of those boards (if I remember right... was a long time ago).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 06:11:18
Well, 4 days of extra waiting and 89,46€ of import taxes later and here it finally is. :eek: The switch plate has some scratches on it but nobody will ever see those so it's fine :p The amazing packaging kept everything in pristine condition.

(https://i.imgur.com/DA3UBbI.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/oTjaKjI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rYw5Jdu.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/2yTgbFk.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:21:22
Well, 4 days of extra waiting and 89,46€ of import taxes later and here it finally is. :eek: The switch plate has some scratches on it but nobody will ever see those so it's fine :p The amazing packaging kept everything in pristine condition.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DA3UBbI.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTjaKjI.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rYw5Jdu.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2yTgbFk.jpg)


daaaamn nice pictures

but 90EUR... so much

germany has really been ramping up their import charges
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:24:10
Yeah it's the usual 19% that goes on everything. LZ put down a value of $79 on the invoice that was on the package but of course they don't care about that. They want to see my PAID invoice. avid had the decent idea of asking for 2 invoices but I doubt many sellers are willing to do that.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:26:35
Regarding the 2 invoices, If seller doesnt wanna do all the extra work, he can always charge a small nominal fee for the extra work ($10) which should make both parties happy. And save the germans alot of money.

I mean if you split up pcb+plate and keyboard you naturally get 2 invoices, and doubt the customs people are well read into kustoms.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:41:08
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: seblove on Mon, 28 August 2017, 15:34:30
^^ are you sure LZ? Because the CLS plate lines up perfectly with my old OTD pcb, so aside from the usb port I can't see the issue.

Hey seblove,
Well I think I'm incompatible.
It is not just a USB port problem.
Please assemble all switches.
I am 100% sure. Not compatible.

I definitely take your word for it, and did not mean to imply any disrespect or threadjacking here :D. Will attempt to assemble all the switches and see what happens i guess!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 28 August 2017, 16:29:18
Anyone with a silver WKL willing to trade with my gray WKL - any Canadians? PM me!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:01:53
Well, 4 days of extra waiting and 89,46€ of import taxes later and here it finally is. :eek: The switch plate has some scratches on it but nobody will ever see those so it's fine :p The amazing packaging kept everything in pristine condition.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DA3UBbI.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTjaKjI.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/rYw5Jdu.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2yTgbFk.jpg)


Holy **** that Silver WKL looks AMAZING!
Wow, I should have known Silver would look this amazing..
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:06:41
Agree about the silver. There is something about brass + silver color.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:42:38
Just curious, did everyone's top/bottom match perfectly, or were there any color differences?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:46:58
Just curious, did everyone's top/bottom match perfectly, or were there any color differences?

Bugged my friends who have these; they say no difference, two had grey, one had silver.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: maximm on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:47:33
My gray top and bottom have a noticeable color difference
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:58:10
Holy **** that Silver WKL looks AMAZING!
Wow, I should have known Silver would look this amazing..

Classic board, classic colours. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 28 August 2017, 18:36:54
My gray top and bottom have a noticeable color difference

Yeah mine too. I think it was mentioned by LZ originally that parts were sent back to be fixed at some point? Not sure. On mine it is hardly noticeable once i put the spacer in.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 28 August 2017, 18:45:03
Gray and black are slightly different color up and down.
Gray made a new color purchase.
But it is not perfect. I am so worried about whether to exclude the gray color in the next GB. stress...HAaaaaaa :-\
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 28 August 2017, 18:45:40
Dear members of GeekHack,

Thanks all for joining the Group Buy for the LZ-CLS.

Before I start, I would like to inform everyone that I do not speak English as well as I do in Korean, and that I have been relying on Google Translator for the most part of translations.
It is my hope that I have been conveying my meaning and thoughts to you appropriately and that I was communicative throughout the different stages of the Group Buy.

To begin, I have run a number of Group Buys in the past but this particular Group Buy has proven to be the most challenging one as of yet.

I was a sole person responsible for running the Group Buy making critical decisions- but unfortunately met with some roadblocks such as drastic personal work load increase, and an issue with my PayPal account to list a few.

As for the PayPal issue, my account was put on hold due to a sudden increase of PayPal balance, and is still on hold as I speak.

Therefore, I had to find an additional monetary resource which delayed the timeline for this Group Buy.

Aside from an issue with PayPal, I also ran into a problem with the color Gray as sample tests I have run with the color all failed to meet my standards.  Purchasing a new color for the Gray further delayed the timeline for this Group Buy on top of the PayPal issue.

My sincere apologies to everyone who participated in this Group Buy for any inconvenience the delay may have caused.

To make up for the time lost with unexpected issues during the Group Buy timeline, I wanted to give extra attention to details- I included a cloth with my logo and replaced boxes with a keyboard bag in spite of additional cost involved in bundling them as parts of the LZ-CLS.  I really tried best in my ability to provide you with a most complete package for the LZ-CLS, and I hope you will find your LZ-CLS package to be well-thought out and planned.  However, lots of options can be confusing- if you have any missing parts on your order, please send me a PM for an assistance.

I lost some of my credibility with an incident unintentionally a while ago, but I am doing my best to regain your trust.  I really appreciate all of you who believed in me and helped me with a positive energy.

Going back to the LZ-CLS, it is a TKL layout I have not introduced since LZ-FE.
Going back to the LZ-CLS, it is a TKL layout I have not introduced for a while after LZ-FE
My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Before I close, I want to disclose that I am directly involved with every aspect of the Group Buy and have been getting supports from my wife and my brother as well as KIN.
Thank you all for reading.

P.S – Please excuse minor scratches and dents.
I will continue to put my efforts to provide you with higher standards.
Made in KOREA
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:07:41
Love the LZ - Kin teamwork.

This GB has ran very smooth. A little delay maybe, but constant updates - AND the excellent bag make up for this.
Also, we prefer to get excellent product, so better with delay than a rushed product. The grey look stunning!
We will use this keyboard for many years to come. If it was delayed a few weeks, thats nothing!

This is one of the most sought after boards right now - high quality, beautiful case and with LZ name we know it will be of the highest quality.

Now the hype starts for CLSm. Is it sept/okt/nov?

Super happy i was able to get in on this GB.

If you ever do LZ-CLS R2 I would pick up another board.

Well done LZ  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:07:53
Dear members of GeekHack,

Thanks all for joining the Group Buy for the LZ-CLS.

Before I start, I would like to inform everyone that I do not speak English as well as I do in Korean, and that I have been relying on Google Translator for the most part of translations.
It is my hope that I have been conveying my meaning and thoughts to you appropriately and that I was communicative throughout the different stages of the Group Buy.

To begin, I have run a number of Group Buys in the past but this particular Group Buy has proven to be the most challenging one as of yet.

I was a sole person responsible for running the Group Buy making critical decisions- but unfortunately met with some roadblocks such as drastic personal work load increase, and an issue with my PayPal account to list a few.

As for the PayPal issue, my account was put on hold due to a sudden increase of PayPal balance, and is still on hold as I speak.

Therefore, I had to find an additional monetary resource which delayed the timeline for this Group Buy.

Aside from an issue with PayPal, I also ran into a problem with the color Gray as sample tests I have run with the color all failed to meet my standards.  Purchasing a new color for the Gray further delayed the timeline for this Group Buy on top of the PayPal issue.

My sincere apologies to everyone who participated in this Group Buy for any inconvenience the delay may have caused.

To make up for the time lost with unexpected issues during the Group Buy timeline, I wanted to give extra attention to details- I included a cloth with my logo and replaced boxes with a keyboard bag in spite of additional cost involved in bundling them as parts of the LZ-CLS.  I really tried best in my ability to provide you with a most complete package for the LZ-CLS, and I hope you will find your LZ-CLS package to be well-thought out and planned.  However, lots of options can be confusing- if you have any missing parts on your order, please send me a PM for an assistance.

I lost some of my credibility with an incident unintentionally a while ago, but I am doing my best to regain your trust.  I really appreciate all of you who believed in me and helped me with a positive energy.

Going back to the LZ-CLS, it is a TKL layout I have not introduced since LZ-FE.

My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Before I close, I want to disclose that I am directly involved with every aspect of the Group Buy and have been getting supports from my wife and my brother as well as KIN.
Thank you all for reading.

P.S – Please excuse minor scratches and dents.
I will continue to put my efforts to provide you with higher standards.
Made in KOREA

speaking personally, my experience was excellent

regular updates, good packaging, surprise bag/cloths

the only scratches i saw were on my SS plate, which is fine. case was perfect

thanks LZ  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:08:09
Quote
I lost some of my credibility with an incident unintentionally a while ago, but I am doing my best to regain your trust.  I really appreciate all of you who believed in me and helped me with a positive energy.

I'm assuming this is in reference to the Team Redline incident?

You've always been popular here on geekhack, and your keyboards have always been top notch. Even after that incident, you've continued to provide product of the ABSOLUTE HIGHEST quality. Your legitimacy was never in question, at least in my mind.

Quote
My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well

Also, RIP my ****ing wallet.

I'm absolutely in for one or both of these, do you have any pictures to get us excited? I miss my LZ-CE and want another LZ board.

Thanks LZ,

-Puddsy
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:17:32
This was one of the best group buys I have ever joined. Everything went faster than expected. I would join again but now I'm poor :D
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:25:12
<3

Maybe we can get a cyan color like LZ-s or pink from LZ-SK :DDDDDDD
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:46:21
My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Before I close, I want to disclose that I am directly involved with every aspect of the Group Buy and have been getting supports from my wife and my brother as well as KIN.
Thank you all for reading.

P.S – Please excuse minor scratches and dents.
I will continue to put my efforts to provide you with higher standards.
Made in KOREA

I'm looking forward to seeing the exact design of the 60%  :thumb:
Will it be a tray style, or a two piece sandwich style case?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:50:34
My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Before I close, I want to disclose that I am directly involved with every aspect of the Group Buy and have been getting supports from my wife and my brother as well as KIN.
Thank you all for reading.

P.S – Please excuse minor scratches and dents.
I will continue to put my efforts to provide you with higher standards.
Made in KOREA

I'm looking forward to seeing the exact design of the 60%  :thumb:
Will it be a tray style, or a two piece sandwich style case?
C
My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Before I close, I want to disclose that I am directly involved with every aspect of the Group Buy and have been getting supports from my wife and my brother as well as KIN.
Thank you all for reading.

P.S – Please excuse minor scratches and dents.
I will continue to put my efforts to provide you with higher standards.
Made in KOREA

I'm looking forward to seeing the exact design of the 60%  :thumb:
Will it be a tray style, or a two piece sandwich style case?

Like CLS, 2 piece style. :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:52:45
Looking forward for next GB and RIP wallet :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: rustywok on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:01:28
I have a sneaking suspicion I just decided on my next two board buys. To have the complete CLS series would be something.
This has been my first custom board GB. I'm in maybe 4 or 5 other GBs and this is the only one that even came close to the original timeline. I've been in jobs much like what running a GB must be like. A million details, a dozen different people wanting your ear. And it never really changes. Ever. It's a sort of controlled anarchy, this creative stuff. Thanks LZ! I've been taking photos of a mockup with the LZ-CLS and some keysets of mine before I have to pack everything up for the next month.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:12:29
Looks like you need to refill your wallets FAST since those boards are all supposed to come this year.

(http://i.imgur.com/si2faJZ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:44:03
LZ-CLS is one of the two GBs I participated in (and I would rather not disclose the name of the other GB. :) ) and it looks like it would be delivered much sooner than the other one I participated and dropped out because the another one was just taking forever.
I noticed in the photos of those whom have received their LZ-CLS and they look stunning, just like what I expected from the initial hype!

Also, I am a die-hard fan of HHKB layout, or 60%, so to speak, and will definitely participate in CLSs.
I am just glad that the next CLS series in the line is not the CLSs because I would really like to take a little break before dumping money on keyboards I love again. <3

If LZ CLSs GB is to start after November, that would be perfect and I will be ready to grab a few in different colors now that I've seen how amazing all these colors look.
Maybe if we have colors in addition to Silver, Gray, and Black, like Red in LZ-ST, and other one or two exotic colors, that would be even better, too!

Thanks LZ for all of your efforts, and I look forward to buy more of your master pieces in the years to come!
Appreciate the update and I love how you have the road map for your plans- it helps all of us to plan better and what kind of food we will be eating for the next few months  :thumb:

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CMYK on Mon, 28 August 2017, 21:15:33
Dear members of GeekHack,

Thanks all for joining the Group Buy for the LZ-CLS.

Before I start, I would like to inform everyone that I do not speak English as well as I do in Korean, and that I have been relying on Google Translator for the most part of translations.
It is my hope that I have been conveying my meaning and thoughts to you appropriately and that I was communicative throughout the different stages of the Group Buy.

To begin, I have run a number of Group Buys in the past but this particular Group Buy has proven to be the most challenging one as of yet.

I was a sole person responsible for running the Group Buy making critical decisions- but unfortunately met with some roadblocks such as drastic personal work load increase, and an issue with my PayPal account to list a few.

As for the PayPal issue, my account was put on hold due to a sudden increase of PayPal balance, and is still on hold as I speak.

Therefore, I had to find an additional monetary resource which delayed the timeline for this Group Buy.

Aside from an issue with PayPal, I also ran into a problem with the color Gray as sample tests I have run with the color all failed to meet my standards.  Purchasing a new color for the Gray further delayed the timeline for this Group Buy on top of the PayPal issue.

My sincere apologies to everyone who participated in this Group Buy for any inconvenience the delay may have caused.

To make up for the time lost with unexpected issues during the Group Buy timeline, I wanted to give extra attention to details- I included a cloth with my logo and replaced boxes with a keyboard bag in spite of additional cost involved in bundling them as parts of the LZ-CLS.  I really tried best in my ability to provide you with a most complete package for the LZ-CLS, and I hope you will find your LZ-CLS package to be well-thought out and planned.  However, lots of options can be confusing- if you have any missing parts on your order, please send me a PM for an assistance.

I lost some of my credibility with an incident unintentionally a while ago, but I am doing my best to regain your trust.  I really appreciate all of you who believed in me and helped me with a positive energy.

Going back to the LZ-CLS, it is a TKL layout I have not introduced since LZ-FE.

My next project will be CLSm which will support 75% layout, and it will be the 2nd series of CLS.
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Before I close, I want to disclose that I am directly involved with every aspect of the Group Buy and have been getting supports from my wife and my brother as well as KIN.
Thank you all for reading.

P.S – Please excuse minor scratches and dents.
I will continue to put my efforts to provide you with higher standards.
Made in KOREA

I'm happy for those that are satisfied, but Is there no way to fix any of these issues?  I feel like the CLS doesn't compare to your previous boards like the Finale, and RE that I have seen in person.  As it is right now, I wish I never joined the GB.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kokokoy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 21:22:50
Dear members of GeekHack,

Thanks all for joining the Group Buy for the LZ-CLS.

My sincere apologies to everyone who participated in this Group Buy for any inconvenience the delay may have caused.

On my end don't think there were a need for an apology but appreciate it. Sorry to hear the issues you had on this but as far as me being a participant, this was a very smooth GB.

The grey is stunning btw.

Anyway thanks again LZ.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 28 August 2017, 22:10:31
I'm happy for those that are satisfied, but Is there no way to fix any of these issues?  I feel like the CLS doesn't compare to your previous boards like the Finale, and RE that I have seen in person.  As it is right now, I wish I never joined the GB.

So you've already received the CLS in person?

Please show us via pictures that proves your point with this discussion.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: renzpwns on Mon, 28 August 2017, 22:28:22
Love seeing more 75% GBs. Most likely in on this one.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Mon, 28 August 2017, 22:35:44
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Goon on Mon, 28 August 2017, 23:23:17
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/351037110523789312/image.jpg) I got one ding on it isnt as bad as yours though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 23:40:16
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


That looks like adhesive residue, not an anodizing defect. Might be the picture, but have you tried rubbing it off?

I'm happy for those that are satisfied, but Is there no way to fix any of these issues?  I feel like the CLS doesn't compare to your previous boards like the Finale, and RE that I have seen in person.  As it is right now, I wish I never joined the GB.

So you've already received the CLS in person?

Please show us via pictures that proves your point with this discussion.

Agreed. Please back up your point with pictures.

EVERY GB is gonna have a few boards with slight defects. ****, even 356CL had some issues (you ever looked at the bottom of one?), DGEs are infamous for the messed up anodizing on the sides.

From what I've seen of everyone's pictures, the boards are all free of major defects you'll see in day-to-day use. A ding or defect on the back or bottom is nothing to get ultra worried about.

I think people have just become more cognizant of this problem because of the mech27 and x60. Anyone remember how LZ used to ship boards? Remember all those SEs (or was it GH?) with the obliterated corners?

Not that you shouldn't get upset with issues, but I think people are overreacting a bit to incredibly minor defects.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: ricyuyc on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:32:33

I received mind couple days ago but just no time to unpack and check until this evening.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/anF8VoUh.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/vUHAlYCh.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/fKkN2HUh.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/ACELNjPh.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/96GZ7Gch.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/W82cyH6h.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/EKc9Zbth.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/bB1fh5wh.jpg)
 
(http://i.imgur.com/N0PWET0h.jpg)
 
The kit is really awesome and I love it so much, the tone differences of grey arn't hard to be noticed however,
also the edges finishing of the switch plate could be done better.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 August 2017, 08:49:41
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


That looks like adhesive residue, not an anodizing defect. Might be the picture, but have you tried rubbing it off?

I pm'd LifeZ about it, he said to try some WD40 to wipe it off. I let it soak for a few minutes and gave it a pretty firm rub with some blue shop paper towels but it won't come off. I'm scared to try anything more drastic in fear of scratching it..

I might try some Goo Gone and see if I get better results. I'll report back.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 August 2017, 09:52:33
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)

And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 29 August 2017, 09:55:18
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


That looks like adhesive residue, not an anodizing defect. Might be the picture, but have you tried rubbing it off?

I pm'd LifeZ about it, he said to try some WD40 to wipe it off. I let it soak for a few minutes and gave it a pretty firm rub with some blue shop paper towels but it won't come off. I'm scared to try anything more drastic in fear of scratching it..

I might try some Goo Gone and see if I get better results. I'll report back.

Do NOT use oven cleaner...it'll strip the colour! If light chemicals do not remove it, I would suggest against using anything abrasive.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:13:19
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)


And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)


Odd, we have it exactly in the same place. I wonder what it's from? Did you get yours off yet? I'm going to try an eraser (as advised from LZ) or Goo Gone when I get home this evening.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:31:09
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)


And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)


Odd, we have it exactly in the same place. I wonder what it's from? Did you get yours off yet? I'm going to try an eraser (as advised from LZ) or Goo Gone when I get home this evening.
I've only tried to wipe it off. Might try the eraser idea.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 29 August 2017, 13:18:06
Going back to the LZ-CLS, it is a TKL layout I have not introduced since LZ-FE.

Hmm.. Pretty sure LZ Iron man and LZ-RE are both TKL that came after FE.

I lost some of my credibility with an incident unintentionally a while ago

You mean getting banned from GH for working with Druger? I don't think any reasonable people could blame you for what he did.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:19:57
Okay I am done with my build but I am running into a couple of issues with the programming. JigOn doesn't want to connect to my board and while trying to flash the firmware I keep getting the communication error regardless of which USB port I am using. Can anyone help me out?

Edit: I am also getting the windows error "USB device not recognised" and I have to re-plug it like 10 times to get it recognised.

Edit 2: Seems like the USB device error was a thing with my USB hub only. I also managed to program the board on a laptop with a resolution that was too small for JigOn :p Hope I don't need to make any changes soon.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Tue, 29 August 2017, 15:09:12
Gray and black are slightly different color up and down.
Gray made a new color purchase.
But it is not perfect. I am so worried about whether to exclude the gray color in the next GB. stress...HAaaaaaa :-\

I really hope grey is offered in the future. Please don't exclude grey since it's a gorgeous colors. Very happy with mine. Yes, it has small difference, but i would still get the same color again.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 August 2017, 15:17:55
Gray and black are slightly different color up and down.
Gray made a new color purchase.
But it is not perfect. I am so worried about whether to exclude the gray color in the next GB. stress...HAaaaaaa :-\

I really hope grey is offered in the future. Please don't exclude grey since it's a gorgeous colors. Very happy with mine. Yes, it has small difference, but i would still get the same color again.



I agree. I just want to get this damn smudge off and I'll be 100% happy with it! :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 15:38:35
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)


And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)


Odd, we have it exactly in the same place. I wonder what it's from? Did you get yours off yet? I'm going to try an eraser (as advised from LZ) or Goo Gone when I get home this evening.
I've only tried to wipe it off. Might try the eraser idea.

You could try using https://www.amazon.com/Kano-Kroil-Penetrating-liquid-KROIL/dp/B000F09CF4 (https://www.amazon.com/Kano-Kroil-Penetrating-liquid-KROIL/dp/B000F09CF4). I've used it on some of my more expensive 1911's with great success for surface marks such as brass kisses.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 17:37:19
Gray and black are slightly different color up and down.
Gray made a new color purchase.
But it is not perfect. I am so worried about whether to exclude the gray color in the next GB. stress...HAaaaaaa :-\

I really hope grey is offered in the future. Please don't exclude grey since it's a gorgeous colors. Very happy with mine. Yes, it has small difference, but i would still get the same color again.



I agree. I just want to get this damn smudge off and I'll be 100% happy with it! :)

LZ actually makes a decent point here.

Dark grey is a VERY hard color to get right consistently. I'd rather he take the eungsam (OTD) approach, and offer silver, black, and one or two other colors (i.e. pink and blue).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Tue, 29 August 2017, 17:55:03
Out of curiosity, why is dark grey harder then other colors?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:17:25
Out of curiosity, why is dark grey harder then other colors?

I'll give the quick explanation. I'm also not an expert, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Basically certain alloys of aluminum take anodization better than other alloys. 6061, the kind (most likely, LZ hasn't said what alloy he used) used in this GB is a "NON-AQ" alloy. Non-AQ is the AAC (Aluminum Anodizers Council, learn more at http://www.anodizing.org/? (http://www.anodizing.org/?)) designation for alloys that aren't good at taking anodization.

More info about which alloys are good for what:

(http://i.imgur.com/AkrKrZ7.png)

The thing that makes dark grey hard specifically, is that to get it right, you basically have to anodize the object black, but not too black. It stresses the aluminum out, and can cause discoloration.

Now, you might be wondering, "Puddsy, why doesn't every GB run in 6063?" Well, funny you should ask that. MIRA SE (I was confused with the OMIRA, the Chinese one, but the principle still applies) is being run in 6063, but if you look at the lunar grey color (Dark grey with a green hue), you'll see that it's not perfectly dark grey. Every alloy adds a bit of a hue from the non-aluminum metals that are mixed in. 6061 adds a dark grey hue. 6063 adds a green hue. Also, because 6063 is an AQ-type, it's more expensive than 6061, so the overhead costs are smaller.

Hopefully that makes some semblance of sense. 
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:33:12
Great explanation! Very informative.

So that explains why we see different shades of colors such as blue-grey, green-grey etc.

When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:49:03
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:35:30
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.

That's right,
I am always stressed by anodizing
All moderators will be the same.   :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:35:43
Hello all,

I received a number of PMs regarding several issues.

I just wanted to say that not everyone will have a same set of standards, and there may be areas where I might have missed.

I will determine an extent as to what will be considered normal, and what will be considered not normal, or defective.

I will address issues and provide replacements in some cases as needed, but please understand that the availability of replacement parts is very limited as I only have a handful of Top & Bottom cases.

I can and will try my best to fix defective parts if you would like, but I cannot guarantee the result is going to be perfect.

For a few cases, I will process a partial refund or a full refund, and I will stay on GeekHack.

Thanks all  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:40:55
Hello all,

I received a number of PMs regarding several issues.

I just wanted to say that not everyone will have a same set of standards, and there may be areas where I might have missed.

I will determine an extent as to what will be considered normal, and what will be considered not normal, or defective.

I will address issues and provide replacements in some cases as needed, but please understand that the availability of replacement parts is very limited as I only have a handful of Top & Bottom cases.

I can and will try my best to fix defective parts if you would like, but I cannot guarantee the result is going to be perfect.

For a few cases, I will process a partial refund or a full refund, and I will stay on GeekHack.

Thanks all  :thumb:

Thanks LZ.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:20:03
Thanks for the GB LZ! I am using the board right now and it's absolutely stunning! A few hiccups on the way but that's to be expected.

Bonus props for running a GB with google translate being your main tool of communication. :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: ninjadoc on Tue, 29 August 2017, 21:42:14
Okay I am done with my build but I am running into a couple of issues with the programming. JigOn doesn't want to connect to my board and while trying to flash the firmware I keep getting the communication error regardless of which USB port I am using. Can anyone help me out?

Edit: I am also getting the windows error "USB device not recognised" and I have to re-plug it like 10 times to get it recognised.

Edit 2: Seems like the USB device error was a thing with my USB hub only. I also managed to program the board on a laptop with a resolution that was too small for JigOn :p Hope I don't need to make any changes soon.

Always connect directly to your PC and use a USB 2 port if available.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: ninjadoc on Tue, 29 August 2017, 21:48:03
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.

I tried cerakote with an eye of offering it as an option for the Mira. The shop tried 5 times and could not get a consistent color. If the board has been anodized more than once it can be an issue. Sandblasting will cause streaks when cerakote is applied. Not as simple as it sounds.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 22:07:11
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.

I tried cerakote with an eye of offering it as an option for the Mira. The shop tried 5 times and could not get a consistent color. If the board has been anodized more than once it can be an issue. Sandblasting will cause streaks when cerakote is applied. Not as simple as it sounds.

All types of cerakote are not created equal, the one that should be used is this stuff (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES), according to the shop up by my college.

In fairness, I don't have a ton of experience with cerakote.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Kafka on Wed, 30 August 2017, 06:55:36
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Any chance for wkl blockers on the 60? I feel like HHKB layout is just so overdone in the community right now...
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 August 2017, 07:06:35
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Any chance for wkl blockers on the 60? I feel like HHKB layout is just so overdone in the community right now...
+1 Blockers option would be cool.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 30 August 2017, 07:58:35
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Any chance for wkl blockers on the 60? I feel like HHKB layout is just so overdone in the community right now...

No, I like HHKB layout what are you talking about?  :p
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: odd on Wed, 30 August 2017, 21:26:20
My First LZ.

http://imgur.com/a/cykV6 (http://imgur.com/a/cykV6)


Came out perfect. I am just waiting for a couple things before i can build it. This weekend is going to be awesome
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 30 August 2017, 23:59:11
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Any chance for wkl blockers on the 60? I feel like HHKB layout is just so overdone in the community right now...

No, I like HHKB layout what are you talking about?  :p

Take this perverted individual down into the basement, for some serious TKL conversion therapy   :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 31 August 2017, 00:03:59
Following CLSm, my 3rd project with CLS series will be CLSs which will support 60% layout.  And yes, you will see a support for HHKB as well.

Any chance for wkl blockers on the 60? I feel like HHKB layout is just so overdone in the community right now...

No, I like HHKB layout what are you talking about?  :p

Take this perverted individual down into the basement, for some serious TKL conversion therapy   :thumb: .

Call me perverted, but I am about to be the owner of Black Viper v2, Silver Viper v2, and an Acrylic Viper v2! lol
Depending on my financial situation I will also be buying all color combination of CLSs.

HHKB is life :-)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 31 August 2017, 06:10:31
buy me one too bra thanccs bb
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Thu, 31 August 2017, 12:31:53
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)


And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)


Did you find a way to get those smudges off the anodizing? I'm still waiting on LZ to respond about how to remove it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 31 August 2017, 12:35:45
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)


And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)


Did you find a way to get those smudges off the anodizing? I'm still waiting on LZ to respond about how to remove it.
No. I tried an eraser, and lightly used a Magic Eraser. Nothing got it off.
I'm pretty positive it's not a adhesive residue.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Thu, 31 August 2017, 12:37:42
Excitement turned into tears.. anyone else have marks like this on their case??

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KzoIOUT.jpg)


Awe yeah, that sucks.

I have like a slight weird anodization spot above where the Pause/Break key goes. It's not a scratch/dent. The color is just lighter, and it's only visible in certain light, and angle.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170824_215456_Circle.jpg)


And then this. Which looks to be around the same spot as yours.  Again, only visible in certain light, and angle.  I didn't notice it until I pulled the flashlight out.
I don't feel them when I run my nail over them. So I don't think they are scratches.
Show Image
(http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/CurtisandCrystal/Curts%20Pcs/Curts%20Keyboards/20170829_095757.jpg)


Did you find a way to get those smudges off the anodizing? I'm still waiting on LZ to respond about how to remove it.
No. I tried an eraser, and lightly used a Magic Eraser. Nothing got it off.
I'm pretty positive it's not a adhesive residue.

I agree. I let some Goo Gone sit on it for 30 minutes and wiped it with a paper towel and no change. I also tried warm water and some light dish soap. It's definitely not residue.

Has to be something during the anodizing/manufacturing process because we have it in the same spot.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Thu, 31 August 2017, 12:54:22
In future GB, is engraved (brass) weights something thats on the table?

Would love a LZ engraved brass weight and id happily pay extra for it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Thu, 31 August 2017, 16:23:25
Hi, I just finished my first custom keyboard, but could I ask some stupid question?

What are these for? I guess the rubber pad should be place around the bottom of the PCB, but I'm not sure what's the other two are.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: xondat on Thu, 31 August 2017, 16:26:37
Hi, I just finished my first custom keyboard, but could I ask some stupid question?

What are these for? I guess the rubber pad should be place around the bottom of the PCB, but I'm not sure what's the other two are.

They look like replacement diodes/resistors for the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 31 August 2017, 16:33:21
Hi, I just finished my first custom keyboard, but could I ask some stupid question?

What are these for? I guess the rubber pad should be place around the bottom of the PCB, but I'm not sure what's the other two are.

Rubber pads go under the case and the other things are just diodes and resistors in case one goes bad or you knock one off the PCB by accident.
I think these extra resistors/diodes are a nice touch, I got some with my TX87 and they've saved my ass twice already (though for different boards).
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Thu, 31 August 2017, 16:42:18
Thank you both.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 31 August 2017, 19:04:30
Hi, I just finished my first custom keyboard, but could I ask some stupid question?

What are these for? I guess the rubber pad should be place around the bottom of the PCB, but I'm not sure what's the other two are.

It is a extra resistors/diodes!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:15:26
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:15:29
I think I got the wrong tracking number via PayPal or my package is sent to the wrong guy. LZ, can you check your PM?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:18:29
Some quick pictures I took. No worries, the board is clean :p

EnjoyPBT Olivetti with 2 blue GMK keys, linear Gateron Clears for mods and MX Clears for everything else, uniform 62g.

(https://i.imgur.com/m8RuLbY.jpg)     (https://i.imgur.com/Yi9MzDD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YxVARd2.jpg)     (http://i.imgur.com/Al8A8bJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ih4jUkw.jpg)     (https://i.imgur.com/0ZAtEXV.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:21:56
Some quick pictures I took. No worries, the board is clean :p

EnjoyPBT Olivetti with 2 blue GMK keys, linear Gateron Clears for mods and MX Clears for everything else, uniform 62g.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m8RuLbY.jpg)
     
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Yi9MzDD.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YxVARd2.jpg)
     
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Al8A8bJ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ih4jUkw.jpg)
     
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0ZAtEXV.jpg)


Beautiful silver boards!! :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:50:30
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:22:57
Posted in another thread, crossposting here  :p

(http://i.imgur.com/5u4XzJn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jRvEmKk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MMGlsBU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4ywUITV.jpg)

Vint Blacks & OG Cherry Dyesubs x GMK Classic Retro, Dual Wield Fugu

Also, anyone knows if it's possible to get a polycarbonate plate for this? Would love to have Ergo Clears/tactiles on another plate/pcb combo.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:40:40
HOT
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 02 September 2017, 21:27:46
Some quick pictures I took. No worries, the board is clean :p

EnjoyPBT Olivetti with 2 blue GMK keys, linear Gateron Clears for mods and MX Clears for everything else, uniform 62g.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m8RuLbY.jpg)
     
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Yi9MzDD.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YxVARd2.jpg)
     
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Al8A8bJ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ih4jUkw.jpg)
     
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0ZAtEXV.jpg)


Beautiful silver boards!! :)

SILVER is the New Black in Keyboards  8) .

Ordered a Silver LZ St model simply because I love that it's coming back in style.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Wed, 06 September 2017, 09:16:13
LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: wodan on Wed, 06 September 2017, 09:53:39
Awesome move LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 September 2017, 10:22:01
LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


Thanks LZ.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Wed, 06 September 2017, 10:23:03
Hope this openness sets a standard! Thanks LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:15:12
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Cocopah on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:22:50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

Oh damn! Count me in!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:23:50
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

Super hyped for this. Would love to buy two of these.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:26:42
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

Instabuy.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:42:52
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

Noice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 06 September 2017, 16:13:39
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

(https://i.imgur.com/ZS5J9BM.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: poolside on Wed, 06 September 2017, 16:44:34
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

Ouch, yes please!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 06 September 2017, 17:03:20
Ouch, turn up those reflection samples, LZ!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nastrovje on Wed, 06 September 2017, 17:15:18
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4652724&mid=board_Lsno50

:DDDDD


LZ SE 2018 version ?!

LZ, have you listened to our prayers?

Please let this be true!

Even if the only colours are pink and neon green, I'd still take 2.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 06 September 2017, 17:24:10
I take that post as looking back at the great work in the past and looking forward to what may come next. But I really hope LZ-SE 2018 can happen. It's the best of the best LZ design IMO.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 06 September 2017, 21:27:16
I take that post as looking back at the great work in the past and looking forward to what may come next. But I really hope LZ-SE 2018 can happen. It's the best of the best LZ design IMO.

Once PERFECTION has been achieved, it's like what Mick Jagger always faces with any new concerts.  Everyone wants to hear “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” and that should apply here as well  8) .

Still looking to buy a unique keyboard done in 2018 to totally NEW standards and visual presentation.  Please don't become another Mick Jagger succumbing to fans, who never want to change or adapt in any way.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 07 September 2017, 02:08:28
LZ-SE will happen? OMG  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 07 September 2017, 03:34:53
I take that post as looking back at the great work in the past and looking forward to what may come next. But I really hope LZ-SE 2018 can happen. It's the best of the best LZ design IMO.

Once PERFECTION has been achieved, it's like what Mick Jagger always faces with any new concerts.  Everyone wants to hear “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” and that should apply here as well  8) .

Still looking to buy a unique keyboard done in 2018 to totally NEW standards and visual presentation.  Please don't become another Mick Jagger succumbing to fans, who never want to change or adapt in any way.

What if the only way for people to hear "You Can't Always Get What You Want" was for Mick Jagger to perform it at a concert they attend? Very few people in the current community have used an SE, and I'm sure LZ's capabilities as a designer and his manufacturers have all improved since then. It's an interesting thing to think about. I don't think it diminishes his work as an artist to release a "2018 Remaster" of his hit song that many of his current fans have been unable to listen to?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 07 September 2017, 16:56:55
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Thu, 07 September 2017, 17:01:12
Not to be an downer but looks like the se is limited to private gb.

I'm not in it

Where did you see that information?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: avid on Thu, 07 September 2017, 17:05:40
LZ clears the info up :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: digi on Thu, 07 September 2017, 17:07:21
Using google translate on kbdlab page, it say "Only selected people" in the comment section.

Racist! :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 07 September 2017, 17:12:01
Do I qualify as "selected people" with 4 LZ boards in my collection?  :))
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nastrovje on Thu, 07 September 2017, 18:55:52
Not to be an downer but looks like the se is limited to private gb.

I'm not in it

Maybe he simply wants to say that all people who appreciate and buy his work are very special to him :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: LifeZ on Thu, 07 September 2017, 19:22:58
ohhhhhhhhhhh!

Do not trust Google translation 100%

My planning one of the plans for next year, LZ SE Limited Edition

It will only have a quantity of limited edition.

It is not secret & Private  :D

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 07 September 2017, 20:08:07
ohhhhhhhhhhh!

Do not trust Google translation 100%


NEVER trust Google at all.  Word to the wise here, if you have a question relating to this or any other future Group Buy run by LZ then PM him, don't ever rely on idiot Google to tell you the truth.

Stopped using Google a long time ago, now everything can be seen clearly with no bias or interference by them.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 08 September 2017, 20:49:23
Wow, I really envy you guys. This is such a beautiful keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Miotch92 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 02:51:32
I need an LZ in an 1800 layout....

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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Sun, 17 September 2017, 23:45:52
I think I have a serious problem with my LZCL. I've been using it for a like a couple of weeks and then one day it stop working. I notice this has something to do with the connector, because I try moving the cable around the connector area around and sometimes the keyboard will be back to working. Turns out if I add a little force from the bottom of the cable where it connect to the keyboard it will work (image below). This to me seems like the connector doesn't have a solid connection to the PCB or maybe it's something else. I don't know, I thought you guys who have more experience on building custom keyboards could shed me some light.

BTW I have try using my HHKB cable and it behave the same, because at first I thought it's the cable that's the problem.


Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: techfresh on Mon, 18 September 2017, 01:38:53
I think I have a serious problem with my LZCL. I've been using it for a like a couple of weeks and then one day it stop working. I notice this has something to do with the connector, because I try moving the cable around the connector area around and sometimes the keyboard will be back to working. Turns out if I add a little force from the bottom of the cable where it connect to the keyboard it will work (image below). This to me seems like the connector doesn't have a solid connection to the PCB or maybe it's something else. I don't know, I thought you guys who have more experience on building custom keyboards could shed me some light.

BTW I have try using my HHKB cable and it behave the same, because at first I thought it's the cable that's the problem.
Can you take pics of your connector with just the pcb showing? We need to see the solder joints of the connector.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nmur on Mon, 18 September 2017, 01:46:21
I think I have a serious problem with my LZCL. I've been using it for a like a couple of weeks and then one day it stop working. I notice this has something to do with the connector, because I try moving the cable around the connector area around and sometimes the keyboard will be back to working. Turns out if I add a little force from the bottom of the cable where it connect to the keyboard it will work (image below). This to me seems like the connector doesn't have a solid connection to the PCB or maybe it's something else. I don't know, I thought you guys who have more experience on building custom keyboards could shed me some light.

BTW I have try using my HHKB cable and it behave the same, because at first I thought it's the cable that's the problem.

with big heavy alu keyboards, bending the cable can be pretty damaging. depending on the cable quality, either the cable or the pcb connector can pop out

we'd probably need pics of the pcb
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: WiNloSt on Mon, 18 September 2017, 05:17:35
Thank you guys. I'll need to transport this back home first, because it's still at my office.
So I could disassemble this without losing any tiny pieces.

I hope I can fix this. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: odd on Mon, 18 September 2017, 10:52:27
I was wondering if anyone can help me with the programming since i have a couple issues I cannot seem to resolve and they are.

1. The backspace seems to have a crazy high repeat rate. I hit it a couple times and almost every time I deletes way more than I want it to. I have seen this on boards before but it usually affects the whole board and not just 1 key.
2. The left control and caps lock seem to be reversed and nothing I do in Jigon seems to resolve it. Plus Jigon sees the keys as being mapped correctly (caps being the in the right place, lctrl in lctrl location)
3. I cannot turn off the RGB underlighting. I have tried every mode under the RGB lighting section and it never turns off. I can turn off the per key lighting though.
4. Is there any way to increase and decrease the LEDs? In Jigon I only see options for the different modes but no way to adjust the lighting (both per-key and RGB backlighting)

This is a fantastic board and everything works perfect except the issues above and if I can resolve the above issues this will be my daily driver. At the worst I can always swap the PCB's but I would rather not desolder the whole board to do that. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions, thanks all.   
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: airs on Mon, 18 September 2017, 11:58:18
Built with Tealios and SS plate. Tealios are okay for stock switches, but definitely need additional lube. Scratchy sound and a lot of ping. No competition for the Gateron Yellows and Krytox in my Octagon v2. As such, I will be desoldering the Tealios and swapping out for lubed Vintage Blacks, or possibly a hybrid of Tealio housing and Vintage Black stem.

The gray color does have a blue hue to it, but I don't detect a color difference between my top and bottom. I've noticed three anodizing defects - none of them are serious flaws though.

Alu plate and Alps plate unbuilt but planning to use Ergo Clears and SKCM Blues.

(https://i.imgur.com/YFSESy4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4dHyq1H.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UGxtnJx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IUcrVTX.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 18 September 2017, 12:06:29
1. The backspace seems to have a crazy high repeat rate. I hit it a couple times and almost every time I deletes way more than I want it to. I have seen this on boards before but it usually affects the whole board and not just 1 key.

Make sure your switch isn't chattering. Swap in another switch and see what happens.


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2. The left control and caps lock seem to be reversed and nothing I do in Jigon seems to resolve it. Plus Jigon sees the keys as being mapped correctly (caps being the in the right place, lctrl in lctrl location)

Jigon is kinda dumb about this. Have you tried putting the caps lock in the ctrl location, and vice versa? If it's anything like some GH60 PCBs, they're backwards on the PCB.

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3. I cannot turn off the RGB underlighting. I have tried every mode under the RGB lighting section and it never turns off. I can turn off the per key lighting though.

Set all the LEDs to black, or, on the newest version of Jigon, one of the modes turns them all off.

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4. Is there any way to increase and decrease the LEDs? In Jigon I only see options for the different modes but no way to adjust the lighting (both per-key and RGB backlighting)

The brightness? Only for the RGB LEDs. In-switch is dependant on the presoldered resistors.

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: HappyCatFish on Mon, 18 September 2017, 14:28:16
I was wondering if anyone can help me with the programming since i have a couple issues I cannot seem to resolve and they are.

1. The backspace seems to have a crazy high repeat rate. I hit it a couple times and almost every time I deletes way more than I want it to. I have seen this on boards before but it usually affects the whole board and not just 1 key.
2. The left control and caps lock seem to be reversed and nothing I do in Jigon seems to resolve it. Plus Jigon sees the keys as being mapped correctly (caps being the in the right place, lctrl in lctrl location)
3. I cannot turn off the RGB underlighting. I have tried every mode under the RGB lighting section and it never turns off. I can turn off the per key lighting though.
4. Is there any way to increase and decrease the LEDs? In Jigon I only see options for the different modes but no way to adjust the lighting (both per-key and RGB backlighting)

This is a fantastic board and everything works perfect except the issues above and if I can resolve the above issues this will be my daily driver. At the worst I can always swap the PCB's but I would rather not desolder the whole board to do that. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions, thanks all.

1. My best guess is that it's either a faulty switch, have you tried swapping it out? Or you may have let the solder bleed into the sockets for the split backspace positions and one of those positions is also bound to backspace, which means you are triggering multiple inputs with each keypress, when held down, doubling the repeat rate compared to a normal key. Photos would help troubleshoot this one.

2. When you have the board connected you should be able to press each key on the keyboard and see the corresponding position highlight in Jigon. That should help you identify the locations of each key. Alternatively you should check out your other layers in Jigon, you may be stuck on the wrong one, I would suggest changing every layer to be the exact same to see if that resolves your problem.

3. You will not be able to turn off the RGB LEDs without using a couple small jumper cable or an additional two RGB diodes to bridge the two positions that are not filled by default, right above the arrow cluster and below the extra-nav cluster. I'm not 100% sure of the specifics but troll around in other L3 Leeku pcb threads for more info, I recall reading it somewhere. Alternatively you can do what I do with L3 PCBs and just tape all the RGB LEDs, I use small squares of black electrical tape.

4. Not sure on this one, I believe in the per-key LED modes there are a few different modes (static) with different brightness settings. For the RGB LEDs there are brightness setting in Jigon, no clue if they work or not as I never use them.

Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: odd on Mon, 18 September 2017, 17:21:27
Thanks Puddsy and HappyCatFish, I'll try swapping out the switch when I get home from work as I am positive I did not get extra solder anywhere when building this board, I'll try swapping positions in Jigon for the ctrl and caps issue. I have 2 other TX based boards that use JigOn and neither one do what this one does so I did not even think of trying that (I own a couple GH60's so I understand what you are telling me)
Black for all RGB's again never thought to try that, that's a easy fix. I figured so on the in switch brightness but figured I would ask. Thanks for your help both of you I'll report back once I get home and can work on my board.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:46:16
Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 19 September 2017, 20:48:26
Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)


Nice!  What kind of mat is that?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 19 September 2017, 21:07:34
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 19 September 2017, 23:56:59
Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)


hope you didn't pay a lot for those switches.  There are better options

They were 104 for $175 from another user here on GH from England. They are probably the newest skcm browns i've seen. Why, what else you got in mind?
I am also building a setup with 65g silent black cherry in case i want to change it up. Im just waiting on my missing pcb and plate from LZ.

Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)


Nice!  What kind of mat is that?

It is this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1UXPIN/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) from amazon. The little magnetic tray boxes are the best part.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: nastrovje on Wed, 20 September 2017, 06:00:23
Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)


There are better options

What tactile switches are better options in your opinion? Skcm Browns are pretty much the best I know.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 September 2017, 12:40:12
Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)


There are better options

What tactile switches are better options in your opinion? Skcm Browns are pretty much the best I know.

Personally I think panda clears are the best tactiles. Not really a fan of tactile ALPS at all.

It's all subjective, really.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 20 September 2017, 13:02:19
Still working on this but its getting close to where I pull out the real camera and get some money shots...

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/LybBVum.jpg)


There are better options

What tactile switches are better options in your opinion? Skcm Browns are pretty much the best I know.

Personally I think panda clears are the best tactiles. Not really a fan of tactile ALPS at all.

It's all subjective, really.

55g topre is the best tactile imo. Nothing "pops" quite like it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 20 September 2017, 15:28:46
I havent tried the "panda clear" - i'm guessing cherry clear stem in an invyr shell? I have pandas at work. They're ok. I swapped out my clears for MOD-M's and I definitely like them better. I have a 55g topre realforce 104 and a 55g topre hhkb... both are nice as well.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 September 2017, 20:52:17
I havent tried the "panda clear" - i'm guessing cherry clear stem in an invyr shell? I have pandas at work. They're ok. I swapped out my clears for MOD-M's and I definitely like them better. I have a 55g topre realforce 104 and a 55g topre hhkb... both are nice as well.

Not quite

Panda clears are MX clears with MX black springs. Bsun panda clears are the same, but in the Bsun/invyr housing.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: Kafka on Wed, 20 September 2017, 23:13:55
I havent tried the "panda clear" - i'm guessing cherry clear stem in an invyr shell? I have pandas at work. They're ok. I swapped out my clears for MOD-M's and I definitely like them better. I have a 55g topre realforce 104 and a 55g topre hhkb... both are nice as well.

Not quite

Panda clears are MX clears with MX black springs. Bsun panda clears are the same, but in the Bsun/invyr housing.
'Panda clear' is an old term
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 24 September 2017, 00:39:03
(https://i.imgur.com/GaJLSq5.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: WiNloSt on Sun, 24 September 2017, 04:01:25
Hey guys after a very busy week. I now have time to disassemble my LZCLS. So that I can show you the problem with my PCB's connector. I have attach a bunch of images of the connector. And also a video demonstrating the problem.

I don't think it has anything to do with the USB connector's soldered joint. Those seems solid, at least to me. But I suspect it has something to do with the connector itself. Maybe the contact where it touch with a cable come loose. This is my speculation. But what do you guys think? Is the connector broken and if I replace it with a new one will the problem be solved?

Thanks a lot!!!

video here (more details in the video description)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: MkLovin on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:04:37
55G Lubed Silents/GMK Dolch x CST L-Trac

(http://i.imgur.com/rXutEdJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:13:30
Hey guys after a very busy week. I now have time to disassemble my LZCLS. So that I can show you the problem with my PCB's connector. I have attach a bunch of images of the connector. And also a video demonstrating the problem.

I don't think it has anything to do with the USB connector's soldered joint. Those seems solid, at least to me. But I suspect it has something to do with the connector itself. Maybe the contact where it touch with a cable come loose. This is my speculation. But what do you guys think? Is the connector broken and if I replace it with a new one will the problem be solved?

Thanks a lot!!!

video here (more details in the video description)

It looks like the middle pin is bent down.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: avid on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:17:34
55G Lubed Silents/GMK Dolch x CST L-Trac

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rXutEdJ.jpg)


Beautiful. Dolch looks so good on this. What's the yellow trackball? I know they offer black/red/blue but never seen yellow.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: MkLovin on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:21:56
55G Lubed Silents/GMK Dolch x CST L-Trac

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rXutEdJ.jpg)


Beautiful. Dolch looks so good on this. What's the yellow trackball? I know they offer black/red/blue but never seen yellow.

Thanks!  It's just a black CST L-Trac but I got a pool ball off of someone a while back.  Really enjoying it.  Thanks for the kind words!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: WiNloSt on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:27:49
Hey guys after a very busy week. I now have time to disassemble my LZCLS. So that I can show you the problem with my PCB's connector. I have attach a bunch of images of the connector. And also a video demonstrating the problem.

I don't think it has anything to do with the USB connector's soldered joint. Those seems solid, at least to me. But I suspect it has something to do with the connector itself. Maybe the contact where it touch with a cable come loose. This is my speculation. But what do you guys think? Is the connector broken and if I replace it with a new one will the problem be solved?

Thanks a lot!!!

video here (more details in the video description)

It looks like the middle pin is bent down.

Thanks for the reply. I have to inspect that again and I swear there's no bent pin. If you look closely all 5 pins area exactly the same height. But there're 4 slits behind the 2 pins from each side letting some light through creating an illusion that those pins looks higher than the one in the middle which made the middle one looks broken.

BTW I DM LZ and he told me that looks like a damaged connector and I probably have to find a new one. I actually planned to get a new connector and solder it myself with my little experience in soldering. I read somewhere that I need to use flux so that those 5 little solder joints, where the connector connect with the PCB, won't join each others. Is that the right way to do it?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:33:44
Hey guys after a very busy week. I now have time to disassemble my LZCLS. So that I can show you the problem with my PCB's connector. I have attach a bunch of images of the connector. And also a video demonstrating the problem.

I don't think it has anything to do with the USB connector's soldered joint. Those seems solid, at least to me. But I suspect it has something to do with the connector itself. Maybe the contact where it touch with a cable come loose. This is my speculation. But what do you guys think? Is the connector broken and if I replace it with a new one will the problem be solved?

Thanks a lot!!!

video here (more details in the video description)

It looks like the middle pin is bent down.

Thanks for the reply. I have to inspect that again and I swear there's no bent pin. If you look closely all 5 pins area exactly the same height. But there're 4 slits behind the 2 pins from each side letting some light through creating an illusion that those pins looks higher than the one in the middle which made the middle one looks broken.

BTW I DM LZ and he told me that looks like a damaged connector and I probably have to find a new one. I actually planned to get a new connector and solder it myself with my little experience in soldering. I read somewhere that I need to use flux so that those 5 little solder joints, where the connector connect with the PCB, won't join each others. Is that the right way to do it?

Yes that's correct, you'll also probably want to get some solder wick and solder sucker as well to remove the connector. There should be 2 legs that go through the PCB.  You will need to desolder those from the back side. If you remove all the solder the connector should come right off. Use the flux when soldering the new connector. You can gently slide the iron over the pins and the flux should pull the solder to them.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: WiNloSt on Mon, 25 September 2017, 12:41:11
Hey guys after a very busy week. I now have time to disassemble my LZCLS. So that I can show you the problem with my PCB's connector. I have attach a bunch of images of the connector. And also a video demonstrating the problem.

I don't think it has anything to do with the USB connector's soldered joint. Those seems solid, at least to me. But I suspect it has something to do with the connector itself. Maybe the contact where it touch with a cable come loose. This is my speculation. But what do you guys think? Is the connector broken and if I replace it with a new one will the problem be solved?

Thanks a lot!!!

video here (more details in the video description)

It looks like the middle pin is bent down.

Thanks for the reply. I have to inspect that again and I swear there's no bent pin. If you look closely all 5 pins area exactly the same height. But there're 4 slits behind the 2 pins from each side letting some light through creating an illusion that those pins looks higher than the one in the middle which made the middle one looks broken.

BTW I DM LZ and he told me that looks like a damaged connector and I probably have to find a new one. I actually planned to get a new connector and solder it myself with my little experience in soldering. I read somewhere that I need to use flux so that those 5 little solder joints, where the connector connect with the PCB, won't join each others. Is that the right way to do it?

Yes that's correct, you'll also probably want to get some solder wick and solder sucker as well to remove the connector. There should be 2 legs that go through the PCB.  You will need to desolder those from the back side. If you remove all the solder the connector should come right off. Use the flux when soldering the new connector. You can gently slide the iron over the pins and the flux should pull the solder to them.
Thanks again!!! I'll update again when i get my hands on a connector replacement.

I really hope i will be able to revive my LZCLS.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 26 September 2017, 19:16:51
If it was me, I would try to just reflow the joints first. If its disconnecting like that it could just be a cold joint or crack you cant see. I dont see any issues with the photos you have though - the active pins on your female side look ok? I know you've tried another cable, so i'll just guess that its got an internal crack or a cold solder or something we cant see. Good luck!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 26 September 2017, 20:16:03
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.

I tried cerakote with an eye of offering it as an option for the Mira. The shop tried 5 times and could not get a consistent color. If the board has been anodized more than once it can be an issue. Sandblasting will cause streaks when cerakote is applied. Not as simple as it sounds.

All types of cerakote are not created equal, the one that should be used is this stuff (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES), according to the shop up by my college.

In fairness, I don't have a ton of experience with cerakote.

After talking to the Cerakote place by my house.  The guy said what they do when Cerakoting anodized aluminum is beadblast it just a little bit to slightly ruff up the surface (not try to get all of the Ano off) so the Cerakote can adhere to the anodization. 
He said this is how they do it without leaving streaks.
I'll be taking one of my other cheap cases to him soon and see how it actually turns out.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 27 September 2017, 11:30:20
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.

I tried cerakote with an eye of offering it as an option for the Mira. The shop tried 5 times and could not get a consistent color. If the board has been anodized more than once it can be an issue. Sandblasting will cause streaks when cerakote is applied. Not as simple as it sounds.

All types of cerakote are not created equal, the one that should be used is this stuff (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES), according to the shop up by my college.

In fairness, I don't have a ton of experience with cerakote.

After talking to the Cerakote place by my house.  The guy said what they do when Cerakoting anodized aluminum is beadblast it just a little bit to slightly ruff up the surface (not try to get all of the Ano off) so the Cerakote can adhere to the anodization. 
He said this is how they do it without leaving streaks.
I'll be taking one of my other cheap cases to him soon and see how it actually turns out.

I cerakoted my TX-84. Brunt bronze top, cobalt bottom.

(https://i.imgur.com/hjLzeeo.jpg)

You don't need to strip the anodizing.

I'll try to get better photos in the afternoon.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shipping
Post by: mech0nly on Fri, 29 September 2017, 01:51:49
Just realized my keyboard is pinging. I used old mx brown on alu plate. Not sure its from case, internals, or switches. Though i haven't tried filling inside case with dampening materials.
I opened the board, leaving only the internals, knock it from "cls" logo and i hear pinging noise traveling from knock point to opposite area (caps lock).

I will try filling the case with dampening material first and report later.
If the ping persists, i think i'll make PC plate. :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 September 2017, 02:26:34
When getting small variations in color, id assume that is not because the top- and bottom cases are being ran in separate batches but rather that the aluminum react different to the stress?

Never thought i'd be interested in aluminum anodization.

1) I'm actually incorrect, I got a very nice PM about it. It's not because of stresses on the metal, it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color.

Cerakote would be a better way of getting boards the color we want. There are more color options, it's more durable, it's more consistent, and it's cheaper. They have free samples in the US on their website, if you're interested

2) Neither did I, but here we are.

I tried cerakote with an eye of offering it as an option for the Mira. The shop tried 5 times and could not get a consistent color. If the board has been anodized more than once it can be an issue. Sandblasting will cause streaks when cerakote is applied. Not as simple as it sounds.

All types of cerakote are not created equal, the one that should be used is this stuff (https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=HSERIES), according to the shop up by my college.

In fairness, I don't have a ton of experience with cerakote.

After talking to the Cerakote place by my house.  The guy said what they do when Cerakoting anodized aluminum is beadblast it just a little bit to slightly ruff up the surface (not try to get all of the Ano off) so the Cerakote can adhere to the anodization. 
He said this is how they do it without leaving streaks.
I'll be taking one of my other cheap cases to him soon and see how it actually turns out.

I cerakoted my TX-84. Brunt bronze top, cobalt bottom.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hjLzeeo.jpg)


You don't need to strip the anodizing.

I'll try to get better photos in the afternoon.

Yeah, I would definitely like to see some more pictures.  Did you Cerakote it yourself?

The guy at the shop close to me said that they just bead blast it just a tiny bit to ruff up the anodized surface.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Shiped
Post by: WiNloSt on Sat, 30 September 2017, 03:31:07
If it was me, I would try to just reflow the joints first. If its disconnecting like that it could just be a cold joint or crack you cant see. I dont see any issues with the photos you have though - the active pins on your female side look ok? I know you've tried another cable, so i'll just guess that its got an internal crack or a cold solder or something we cant see. Good luck!

Man I never thought of that, you know what I just did what you said. And my PCB is back to life plugged in the cable no disconnection or whatnot. Thanks a lot mate!!!

Damn it started to getting disconnection again. I'll see what I can do about it.

Edit: So after having the USB plugged in for a while it will stop working, not sure what's the deal with it. But after every time I solder the connector again it worked just fine.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: WiNloSt on Sat, 30 September 2017, 04:13:25
Hmmmmmmm, I tried to desolder the USB connector and one of the metal pad that, to me, should stays on the PCB came right off is that normal  :eek: :eek: :eek:.
I'm freaking out right now, not sure if I just broke the PCB or not.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: DanielT on Sat, 30 September 2017, 04:40:41
Hmmmmmmm, I tried to desolder the USB connector and one of the metal pad that, to me, should stays on the PCB came right off is that normal  :eek: :eek: :eek:.
I'm freaking out right now, not sure if I just broke the PCB or not.
In theory even that can be solved, try and follow the trace from that pad and see if you can't do some jumper wire thing. It's not nice but it works. I don't have this board so I can't check and tell you exactly where to do it, but I did it in the past on other PCB's .
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: WiNloSt on Sat, 30 September 2017, 05:01:53
Hmmmmmmm, I tried to desolder the USB connector and one of the metal pad that, to me, should stays on the PCB came right off is that normal  :eek: :eek: :eek:.
I'm freaking out right now, not sure if I just broke the PCB or not.
In theory even that can be solved, try and follow the trace from that pad and see if you can't do some jumper wire thing. It's not nice but it works. I don't have this board so I can't check and tell you exactly where to do it, but I did it in the past on other PCB's .

I look carefully but there's no trace from the top PCB side to that pad. But I found this image from a Google search not sure if that means anything (http://www.sunrom.com/media/content/746/USB-Mini-B-Pinout.gif)

I'm trying to convince myself that that pin doesn't need to be connected. T-T

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: WiNloSt on Sat, 30 September 2017, 05:30:12
Just to update on my progress. I did only wire the left 4 pins and the keyboard seems to work. I'm not sure what causes the disconnection but I'll monitor it while I leave it plugged in for a while and see how it goes.

Sorry for a bunch of comments but I was really freaked out.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Sat, 30 September 2017, 10:21:29
Have you tried reflashing the firmware?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: WiNloSt on Sat, 30 September 2017, 11:18:23
Have you tried reflashing the firmware?

Yep I just flashed a new firmware this evening, same firmware I flashed before though. However, it will work fine for a while, but after a couple of minutes the underlight will stop and Windows will notify that the device is not recognized. So I leave that for another big while and then test again. And it failed again after a couple of minutes. I must admit I have absolutely no idea what causes this issue. But I hope a new USB connector will fix it. My order haven't been shipped though. This might take some time.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 30 September 2017, 12:29:23
Have you tried reflashing the firmware?

Yep I just flashed a new firmware this evening, same firmware I flashed before though. However, it will work fine for a while, but after a couple of minutes the underlight will stop and Windows will notify that the device is not recognized. So I leave that for another big while and then test again. And it failed again after a couple of minutes. I must admit I have absolutely no idea what causes this issue. But I hope a new USB connector will fix it. My order haven't been shipped though. This might take some time.

Just in case you are still on the edge about pin 4, it's not necessary at all.
While we are at the topic of it stopping to recognize the device... have you tried it on a different machine? One way or another, please report back after you changed the connector.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Sat, 30 September 2017, 18:10:16
All else fails you can just get a new pcb from Leeku.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 September 2017, 21:38:21
All else fails you can just get a new pcb from Leeku.

Get one from Kin instead... Leeku delegated most of the PCB stuff to him anyway, and he doesn't take 3 months to reply
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Sat, 30 September 2017, 21:59:21
All else fails you can just get a new pcb from Leeku.

Get one from Kin instead... Leeku delegated most of the PCB stuff to him anyway, and he doesn't take 3 months to reply

Oh, right. Good call!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: WiNloSt on Sun, 01 October 2017, 02:40:29
I tried plugging in with another computer and it doesn't drop a connection now. Not sure what happened with my main PC, it would work for some time then stop working.

And thank you everyone for pointing out many useful info  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 01 October 2017, 11:26:05
Has anyone had issues with pinging? I tried dampening materials. It feels less hollow and more solid now, but the pinging still there (even by only knocking the keyboard).

Is it caused by alu plate?
Thanks :)


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Sun, 01 October 2017, 11:58:16
Tried Kaihl Box Whites in Alu plate last night with damping material - had a ton of ping so I'll be swapping them out for something else, maybe ergo clears?
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:14:31
Tried Kaihl Box Whites in Alu plate last night with damping material - had a ton of ping so I'll be swapping them out for something else, maybe ergo clears?

Ergo clears sounds good :)
I'm using old mx browns though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:30:43
Try spring swapping/lubing if you're getting ping.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Sun, 01 October 2017, 15:19:06
Try spring swapping/lubing if you're getting ping.

Thought about that but aren't the Box switches a PITA to open?

Btw here's what Box whites look like on gray CLS:

(https://i.imgur.com/hLuIx0i.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UGAawgg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ym3OqjH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Sbwa6IF.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 01 October 2017, 15:38:25
BOX switches are a PITA to open, and you can't swap the springs.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: techfresh on Mon, 02 October 2017, 09:33:59
BOX switches are a PITA to open, and you can't swap the springs.
I spent around 4 hours lubing my box blacks last night. I got through 40. Definitely need to figure out a better system.


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 02 October 2017, 10:25:34
Try spring swapping/lubing if you're getting ping.

Thought about that but aren't the Box switches a PITA to open?

Btw here's what Box whites look like on gray CLS:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hLuIx0i.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UGAawgg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ym3OqjH.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Sbwa6IF.jpg)


Do they feel better than regular cherry mx stems?
I'm assuming they do if you're spending tons of hours on them.

Please post a video for a sound! :D  :thumb:
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 02 October 2017, 23:37:04
My switches were spring swapped and lubed. there is a spare switch that also tuned, i hear no pinging from it.

Here i attached a sound test. (Please adjust volume to high in order to notice it)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BywAzvthhJ0kYTdjZ3gtU2Y1aTQ

So i think Polycarbonate Half-plate for CLS sounds kinda cool :)


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: zaerst on Tue, 03 October 2017, 20:34:46
Finally put this together. Here are some quick nudes!
Grey WKL + 67g zeals + clipped lubed stabs + diffuser
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 03 October 2017, 20:51:00
Try spring swapping/lubing if you're getting ping.

Thought about that but aren't the Box switches a PITA to open?

Btw here's what Box whites look like on gray CLS:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hLuIx0i.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UGAawgg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ym3OqjH.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Sbwa6IF.jpg)


They're BEAUTIFUL   :o .

I want these installed on my CLSm Model.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 03 October 2017, 21:42:40
Finally put this together. Here are some quick nudes!
Grey WKL + 67g zeals + clipped lubed stabs + diffuser

WOW it looks way better without the diffuser

but not bad with it either
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: avid on Tue, 03 October 2017, 21:45:23
Great looking case! What caps are you putting on it?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: WiNloSt on Thu, 05 October 2017, 13:52:58
So guys. Sad news. I just replaced the USB connector and my keyboard behaved exactly the same as it did before changing the connector. :((

I will test more on weekends but I think my PCB is probably break somewhere.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 05 October 2017, 15:36:54
So guys. Sad news. I just replaced the USB connector and my keyboard behaved exactly the same as it did before changing the connector. :((

I will test more on weekends but I think my PCB is probably break somewhere.

bother kin or LZ to send you a new one
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: techfresh on Sat, 07 October 2017, 09:55:01
Any more polycarbonate plates for sale?


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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Sat, 07 October 2017, 10:09:45
Any more polycarbonate plates for sale?


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Not existed yet, afaik. Also need it though.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 07 October 2017, 12:34:41
My switches were spring swapped and lubed. there is a spare switch that also tuned, i hear no pinging from it.

Here i attached a sound test. (Please adjust volume to high in order to notice it)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BywAzvthhJ0kYTdjZ3gtU2Y1aTQ

So i think Polycarbonate Half-plate for CLS sounds kinda cool :)


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Did you lube the ends of the springs? In my experience that's the only thing that does anything to reduce ping, and it has always eliminated it entirely for me.

I'm skeptical that a different plate would reduce ping, but you're welcome to try. Polycarb is the best plate material anyway  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: avid on Sat, 07 October 2017, 12:36:29
What switches do you guys use polycarb with?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 07 October 2017, 14:57:17
What switches do you guys use polycarb with?

i recommend vintage blacks
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 08 October 2017, 08:41:14
What switches do you guys use polycarb with?

I am a huge fan of the ergo-clears on the plastic plate that I built my Orion V2 with, but at the end of the day it's all personal preference. Build it how you want it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 19 October 2017, 10:16:54
hi LZ i finished build my alps CLS, but something wrong with it.

(https://i.imgur.com/NxgYWBd.png)

at first i was think it maybe my switch was broken, so i try to change it with another one, but it still wont work,
so i try to change diode too but it still wont work too.

can you help me with it? i got so many problem with my LZ-CLS to be honest :(

(https://i.imgur.com/C2nmeqG.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 19 October 2017, 11:07:34
hi LZ i finished build my alps CLS, but something wrong with it.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NxgYWBd.png)


at first i was think it maybe my switch was broken, so i try to change it with another one, but it still wont work,
so i try to change diode too but it still wont work too.

can you help me with it? i got so many problem with my LZ-CLS to be honest :(

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/C2nmeqG.jpg)


Did you test the PCB before you soldered?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 19:03:36
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 19 October 2017, 19:29:17
I'm guessing some of those barrel resistors arent right... they were pretty tricky to solder.
(https://i.imgur.com/tzjxz5G.jpg?1)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 October 2017, 19:32:27
I'm guessing some of those barrel resistors arent right... they were pretty tricky to solder.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tzjxz5G.jpg?1)


looks weird with no centerholes
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:59:20
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 19 October 2017, 21:25:50
I'm guessing some of those barrel resistors arent right... they were pretty tricky to solder.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tzjxz5G.jpg?1)


diodes?

shoulda got the ones packaged in plastic.  those glass ones look scary like they will break

it's what's included with the PCBs

i got the same ones from kin when i got my 3000 pcb
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: gadzkun on Thu, 19 October 2017, 22:28:06
DSA on alps is something I'd like to try.

you like that?

Hmmm i still dont know yet how it feels its my first time build alps xD

But its quite good i still try adapt to it.

I'm guessing some of those barrel resistors arent right... they were pretty tricky to solder.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tzjxz5G.jpg?1)


I ask my friend who really good at soldering so i will ask him again to check it.

hi LZ i finished build my alps CLS, but something wrong with it.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NxgYWBd.png)


at first i was think it maybe my switch was broken, so i try to change it with another one, but it still wont work,
so i try to change diode too but it still wont work too.

can you help me with it? i got so many problem with my LZ-CLS to be honest :(

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/C2nmeqG.jpg)


Did you test the PCB before you soldered?

I dont know how to check pcb xD. I'll ask my friend to check it.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: zimo on Sun, 22 October 2017, 06:27:18
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: DreLLin on Sun, 22 October 2017, 06:33:08
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.
Title: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 22 October 2017, 06:35:17
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: zimo on Sun, 22 October 2017, 06:53:39
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: zimo on Sun, 22 October 2017, 07:07:58
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.

How to into the USB mode,I cant conect keyboard
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: DreLLin on Sun, 22 October 2017, 09:37:59
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.

How to into the USB mode,I cant conect keyboard

Ok, here is another step by step manual:

- Download L3_170419.zip (http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4320094&sid=ebbdca3c12b3174f582b4c8dc470ecce)
- Download JigOn_170419.zip (http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4320093&sid=a2dfd681007fec4c849850a5530a4df9)
- Unzip both files go
- Open loadfw.bat in L3_170419
- It will then flash the Leeku L3 keyboard with that version of the firmware.
- If you get a “communications error” when flashing, try a different USB cable and/or port. For me, it turned out using a different port worked, even though the keyboard could *type stuff* using the first port, it couldn’t flash the board.
- Open JigOn.exe in JigOn_170419 Folder
- Download and follow the guide Leeku L3 Software.pdf from https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v24vygvyl4mvqrm/AABUNcm0BDioYE5QbArje0Kba?dl=1

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: zimo on Sun, 22 October 2017, 10:30:51
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.

How to into the USB mode,I cant conect keyboard

Ok, here is another step by step manual:

- Download L3_170419.zip (http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4320094&sid=ebbdca3c12b3174f582b4c8dc470ecce)
- Download JigOn_170419.zip (http://kbdlab.co.kr/?module=file&act=procFileDownload&file_srl=4320093&sid=a2dfd681007fec4c849850a5530a4df9)
- Unzip both files go
- Open loadfw.bat in L3_170419
- It will then flash the Leeku L3 keyboard with that version of the firmware.
- If you get a “communications error” when flashing, try a different USB cable and/or port. For me, it turned out using a different port worked, even though the keyboard could *type stuff* using the first port, it couldn’t flash the board.
- Open JigOn.exe in JigOn_170419 Folder
- Download and follow the guide Leeku L3 Software.pdf from https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v24vygvyl4mvqrm/AABUNcm0BDioYE5QbArje0Kba?dl=1

Hope this helps.

Very detailed, thank you for your patience!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 30 October 2017, 18:20:39
Promised someone photos of my cerakote'd TX-84 here (better late than never): https://imgur.com/a/tLILX
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 30 October 2017, 18:22:35
Promised someone photos of my cerakote'd TX-84 here (better late than never): https://imgur.com/a/tLILX
Very nice! Was this place local? How much did it run you? Any pros/cons versus standard anode? :)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 30 October 2017, 19:58:19
Promised someone photos of my cerakote'd TX-84 here (better late than never): https://imgur.com/a/tLILX
Nice! Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 30 October 2017, 21:12:07
Promised someone photos of my cerakote'd TX-84 here (better late than never): https://imgur.com/a/tLILX
Very nice! Was this place local? How much did it run you? Any pros/cons versus standard anode? :)

Thanks! Yes it was local, ran $110 in cash (was less if I wanted one color). With cerakote you necessarily don't have to strip the original anodizating and an even result is easier to achieve than anodizing.

Promised someone photos of my cerakote'd TX-84 here (better late than never): https://imgur.com/a/tLILX
Nice! Thanks for posting.

You're welcome!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: popkorn62 on Sat, 04 November 2017, 23:09:49
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: techfresh on Sun, 05 November 2017, 10:33:31
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 13 November 2017, 19:27:13
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.

Got my CLS and the custom brass and pc plates today. The brass plate needed some polishing but turned out nice. Paid 194€ including 19% VAT for both plates but wanted them to be produced locally.

[attach=1]
[attach=2]
[attach=3]

If interested, you can watch the complete build log at Imgur. https://imgur.com/a/zDHXR

Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Wed, 15 November 2017, 15:52:03
Got my CLS and the custom brass and pc plates today. The brass plate needed some polishing but turned out nice. Paid 194€ including 19% VAT for both plates but wanted them to be produced locally.

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If interested, you can watch the complete build log at Imgur. https://imgur.com/a/zDHXR

Great build log DreLLin - thanks for posting! What is the reason for this step - "Clipping the legs of the switches for the Alphas. Keeping the legs on Mods and ISO keys with larger plate cutouts"

Also wondering why you used GPL105, GPL106 and the VW lube (GPL105)? Why the spray lube in addition to the drops?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 15 November 2017, 16:44:08
The legs of the Zeal switches are a little bigger than the cherry ones. It's really hard to push them into the pcb and almost impossible to have them seated flush with the plate and pcb without clipping the legs.
Since the alphas have great support from the plate and alignment is no concern you can clip the legs of the switches without sacrificing anything.

On the mods and ISO keys you have larger plate cutouts and it's harder to align the switches correctly. That's why I dont't clip the legs on these keys and am not so concerned if they aren't 1000% flush with the pcb.

I used the bag before I had the spray for other switches so there was some GPL 105 left in it. From now on I'll only use 106 and the spray since it makes it a bit easier to spread out the lube in the bag and a bit less shaking is required.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: airs on Wed, 15 November 2017, 16:48:22
The legs of the Zeal switches are a little bigger than the cherry ones. It's really hard to push them indto the pcb and almost impossible to have them seated flush with the plate and pcb without clipping the legs.
Since the alphas have great support from the plate and alignment is no concern you can clip the legs of the switches without sacrificing anything.

On the mods and ISO keys you have larger plate cutouts and it's harder to align the switches correctly. That's why I dont't clip the legs on these keys and am not so concerned if they aren't 1000% flush with the pcb.

I used the bag before I had the spray for other switches so there was some GPL 105 left in it. From now on I'll only use 106 and the spray since it makes it a bit easier to spread out the lube in the bag and a bit less shaking is required.

Makes sense, thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: jenggo on Wed, 15 November 2017, 18:10:50
Just Finished fixing Gadzkun's CLS.
about 3 controller feet doesn't soldered well to the pcb.
many diodes not soldered to the pcb
and polished the weight
https://i.imgur.com/b5O6iaD.jpg

 :thumb:  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: avid on Wed, 15 November 2017, 18:37:39
Very nice! The black finish is so good. Do you have more pics but of front?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:20:25
Just Finished fixing Gadzkun's CLS.
about 3 controller feet doesn't soldered well to the pcb.
many diodes not soldered to the pcb
and polished the weight
https://i.imgur.com/b5O6iaD.jpg

 :thumb:  :thumb:

What did you use to polish?
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 16 November 2017, 08:34:41
Is there any tutorial about firmware?

I don't know how to set it, I don't even know how to get into it


The PCB is Designed/Developed by Leeku
The PCB is Programmed with JigOn firmware : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_sw&document_srl=2702787

-------------------------------------------------

PCB S/W (JigOn)
 English language documentation for Leeku's L3 Boards
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885




Are the plate files for the CLS available? Would love to get a brass and/or pc or carbon plate.

LZ CLS Self Tunning   :D

For CLS MX switch plate(1.5mm)
https://goo.gl/a2w2o3

For CLS Weight plate(5mm)
https://goo.gl/DB6JTd


I might be interested in pc plate, its too expensive to cut for myself alone.

Got my CLS and the custom brass and pc plates today. The brass plate needed some polishing but turned out nice. Paid 194€ including 19% VAT for both plates but wanted them to be produced locally.

[attach=1]
[attach=2]
[attach=3]

If interested, you can watch the complete build log at Imgur. https://imgur.com/a/zDHXR

Really nice build log and great result. Thanks for taking the time to do it, I took a few tips to use on my next build.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 13 December 2017, 10:20:38
Hmmmmmmm, I tried to desolder the USB connector and one of the metal pad that, to me, should stays on the PCB came right off is that normal  :eek: :eek: :eek:.
I'm freaking out right now, not sure if I just broke the PCB or not.

Can USB connector wired to this pad?

Currently i have GON Nerd PCB, but the connector was beneath of the PCB (instead of on top), it must be on top in order to compatible with CLS. Actually there's a pad on top, but the extras part of PCB was cut from vendor (along with the top pad). I just knew this when it arrived. Help....  :'(

(https://i.imgur.com/eiitgzh.png)
Really sorry for potato pic
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 13 December 2017, 10:32:19
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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 13 December 2017, 14:32:39
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: rabbitfire on Thu, 21 December 2017, 09:56:40
My connector failed out so I had to desolder everything and solder the connect to PCB. But, it doesn't work. Anyone know how to fix this issue?

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Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Delirious on Tue, 06 February 2018, 17:01:20
A bit late because I have to wait for the Time's pcb. My latest abomination with SKCM Blues, hebrew keyset, and a circumcised penis for escape key.
(https://i.imgur.com/lwWg0W8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d4Pfc9N.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: GeneriksGiraffe on Sun, 27 May 2018, 10:02:45
Will there every be a rerun of this? I am so sad I missed this! A custom ALPS tkl would be glorious.
Title: Re: [GB] LZ CLS (Classic TKL) : Finished
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 27 May 2018, 10:39:08
Will there every be a rerun of this? I am so sad I missed this! A custom ALPS tkl would be glorious.

probably not