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DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:35:15 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:39:56 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

I'd probably be down for an alps 75%. An SE version would just be a plus =)
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:40:06 »
I was very close to picking up a Keycool 84 but instead got a Poker II. I would like to see a set up like the Keycool 84 it would be...coo...what I would prefer to see. 75% with dedicated arrow keys gets a :thumb: from me.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:43:51 »
as long as I have the option for arrow keys im sold
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:45:24 »
something thick and heavy.  75% isn't a popular mobile formfactor like 60%,

maybe something less steep than 11 degrees?  without feet so it can be heavier.

front-facing LEDs and a 'breathing' mode please.

maybe brass and/or stainless steel?  not the whole bottom, but a cutout is always purdy,

also, having an acrylic 'light layer' like the orion would be AMAZING.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:55:16 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

I'd probably be down for an alps 75%. An SE version would just be a plus =)

Everyone who posts "alps 75%" should have a requirement to also post the donor board(s) they plan to use.  The variety of cap and stabilizer variations probably don't matter if you're an alps collector, but for the average person who doesn't know a lot it makes it very hard to source parts for an alps board.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 18:55:43 »
Also, with alps, I'd love the compatibility for rgb leds. SMD or otherwise.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 19:14:15 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

I'd probably be down for an alps 75%. An SE version would just be a plus =)

Everyone who posts "alps 75%" should have a requirement to also post the donor board(s) they plan to use.  The variety of cap and stabilizer variations probably don't matter if you're an alps collector, but for the average person who doesn't know a lot it makes it very hard to source parts for an alps board.

Also interested in alps 75%

Would the caps from http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59916.0 work? The enter and \| will be sourced elsewhere, but this comes with a 1.75x shift which is perfect for 75% alps

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 19:53:55 »
75% is my ideal layout so I'm interested. Ideally I would want an option on the bottom row for 1.25 + 1.25 + 1.25 + 6.x + whatever.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 19:58:01 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

I'd probably be down for an alps 75%. An SE version would just be a plus =)

Everyone who posts "alps 75%" should have a requirement to also post the donor board(s) they plan to use.  The variety of cap and stabilizer variations probably don't matter if you're an alps collector, but for the average person who doesn't know a lot it makes it very hard to source parts for an alps board.

Also interested in alps 75%

Would the caps from http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59916.0 work? The enter and \| will be sourced elsewhere, but this comes with a 1.75x shift which is perfect for 75% alps

The keyboard would probably be too heavy for you, it has an aluminum case. Isn't that why you're selling your MX Mini?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 20:57:29 »
I'm not a huge fan of 75%, but I AM a huge fan of Duck and would probably be unable to resist.

As far as input goes, I don't feel that I am worthy, nor have the creativity to provide any useful information. I think the Lightsaver bottom LED is extremely cool and can't wait to get my hands on a Viper for that very reason.  That being said, I'll give it a shot.

If it would be possible to have a rectangular cutout across the back where an acrylic piece could be inserted could allow for an under-mounted LED to light up the back would be very, very interesting. Could jack up the production costs through the roof, but all that is above my pay grade. Etch the acrylic insert with Duck75 GH Edition.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 21:05:44 »
Everyone who posts "alps 75%" should have a requirement to also post the donor board(s) they plan to use.  The variety of cap and stabilizer variations probably don't matter if you're an alps collector, but for the average person who doesn't know a lot it makes it very hard to source parts for an alps board.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 21:06:43 »
Everyone who posts "alps 75%" should have a requirement to also post the donor board(s) they plan to use.  The variety of cap and stabilizer variations probably don't matter if you're an alps collector, but for the average person who doesn't know a lot it makes it very hard to source parts for an alps board.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 21:50:42 »
I'd really want to buy a lightsaver. Not sure how I missed the recent buy.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 21:52:38 »
something thick and heavy.

And round......

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 06 July 2014, 23:57:50 »
A 75% user, like myself, can't live without function keys either for work or game.
I use 75% cos safe desk space, a separate numpad I can put anywhere, more ergonomic.
I don't like Race2, have to press 2 buttons for F11 F12.
Hopefully more standard size keycap we can swap more easier.
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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 00:52:56 »
something thick and heavy.

And round......

......feet.  you mean screw on feet right?

not my thing really.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 04:57:16 »
Interested in 75% Alps with stabs and bottom row compatible with the Dell or SGI.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 05:31:04 »
I would be down for one, but i'd rather let duck's creativity decide since he has been so on point with all his latest releases.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 05:45:49 »
I've been wanting 75 for so long.  My only desire is a white instead of black

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 07:35:43 »
I like the design of the Duck Mini V1 and V2 case where there are no feet like the KMACs. I'd love to see that case design stay. I also loved the Poker suits cut into the back of the case. It would be great to see the GH SE logo or something else cut like that. I also thought it was clever to have cutouts in the case to allow the LEDs to show through in the Orion. I would like to see that again. And I think if you made the Alps version compatible with the Dell AT101W caps, that would work out nicely. Those boards are easy to find.

I *really* didn't like the riser for the V2 case. Please please please don't have those again.

Think those are all the things I can think of at the moment...I'm very interested in a 75% Alps board :D

My only desire is a white instead of black

Sorry to burst your bubble. If this is going to be an aluminum case like the rest of Duck's boards, you can't get the board anodized in white. You can read why in this post from The_Beast.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:25:11 »
I don't have too many suggestions, but I'd definitely be interested in whatever this discussion leads to.   :thumb:   I love the designs that have come out recently, so I don't think I'd want too many changes.

Sorry to burst your bubble. If this is going to be an aluminum case like the rest of Duck's boards, you can't get the board anodized in white. You can read why in this post from The_Beast.

Wrong link - that points back to this thread.   :))  Yay you fixed it!   :thumb:
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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:30:47 »
Fixed my earlier link, oops.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:07:04 »
Since DUCK has always produced such unique boards, they should do something a little different, maybe a 70% board with 1 row taller but just as wide as a 60%. That way you have all your function keys as well as arrows if you want but still keep END/Home/PgUp/PgDn/INS under the function row. I assume most of us who need 75% over 60% is because of the function keys, and this would solve that issue without making it too large.

maybe something like this

instead of the usual 75% width of this
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 14:35:05 »
personally, i like the 75% form factor due to the fact it slims down on size whilst retaining all the function keys in their "proper" location. e.g. having the 4 arrow keys in the same row just feels off, same as having PgUp next to PgDown instead of above

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 15:17:42 »
Keycool essentially has it almost perfect with the Keycool 84 (in regards to my own personal preference for layout goes).

75% boards, as has been suggested, make the best of minimizing footprint while maintaining "one-key press" functionality of the most-used functions.

Initially, I'd like to see something done in that vein, with custom GH and Duck flair perhaps.

Outside of that, I'd personally want to see something along the lines of a Coolermaster TK (not 75%, but close enough); specifically with key cap replacement in mind.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 15:26:33 »
I think it would be really cool if they did something like the Red Scarf II:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.x7UATE&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=38832140416&pvid=5387a7e0-4d37-411a-b329-3005c91df7dd



Keycool essentially has it almost perfect with the Keycool 84 (in regards to my own personal preference for layout goes).

75% boards, as has been suggested, make the best of minimizing footprint while maintaining "one-key press" functionality of the most-used functions.

Initially, I'd like to see something done in that vein, with custom GH and Duck flair perhaps.

Outside of that, I'd personally want to see something along the lines of a Coolermaster TK (not 75%, but close enough); specifically with key cap replacement in mind.

That has already been done; the Lightsaver V1 and V2

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 15:41:35 »
No input on the layout, but whatever it is I would like the case to be flatter.  11 degree angle is roughly equivalent to a *standard* keyboard with feet.  Flat to 6 degrees with optional feet/riser would be better IMO.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:00:11 »
That has already been done; the Lightsaver V1 and V2

It's close, but not completely what I was thinking. Perhaps when I have time I can make a layout.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:00:23 »
I think it would be really cool if they did something like the Red Scarf II:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.x7UATE&scm=1007.10009.518.0&id=38832140416&pvid=5387a7e0-4d37-411a-b329-3005c91df7dd


That has already been done; the Lightsaver V1 and V2

I realize they are almost the same, but I guess I was mainly talking about eliminating the F-row from the Lightsaver as they did in the Scarf II design.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 16:40:05 »
I think the most important thing to change is to replace the red desk-facing LEDs on the sides with RGB LEDs. That way the end user won't have to desolder them.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:20:58 »
I think the most important thing to change is to replace the red desk-facing LEDs on the sides with RGB LEDs. That way the end user won't have to desolder them.

That's a great idea!

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 17:23:49 »
If it supports ALPS (and I'm pretty sure it will) it should be 1.5x mods and 7x space bar layout because there are not a lot of key cap options if you go with 1.25x and 6.75x space bar.

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 18:04:23 »
Why 6.75x space bar?
It can be 1.25-1-1.25-6.25-1.25-1-1-1-1-1
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 18:14:49 »
It would be really cool if there was a whole row of extra programmable modifiers at the bottom of the keyboard.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 18:29:49 »
I love 75% and I would probably buy a Duck 75.  I was about to design a Race-compatible PCB and stick it in a AboStudio GAC75 case, but this would be better.  I don't like the MX-mini very much but I would use it if I had to.

I don't like the idea of inscribing "GH" anywhere on it.

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 19:31:30 »
Why 6.75x space bar?
It can be 1.25-1-1.25-6.25-1.25-1-1-1-1-1

Because I was only talking about ALPS. I haven't seen any alps boards using 6.25 space bars.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 20:05:04 »
I like the design of the Duck Mini V1 and V2 case where there are no feet like the KMACs. I'd love to see that case design stay. I also loved the Poker suits cut into the back of the case. It would be great to see the GH SE logo or something else cut like that. I also thought it was clever to have cutouts in the case to allow the LEDs to show through in the Orion. I would like to see that again. And I think if you made the Alps version compatible with the Dell AT101W caps, that would work out nicely. Those boards are easy to find.

I *really* didn't like the riser for the V2 case. Please please please don't have those again.

Think those are all the things I can think of at the moment...I'm very interested in a 75% Alps board :D

My only desire is a white instead of black

Sorry to burst your bubble. If this is going to be an aluminum case like the rest of Duck's boards, you can't get the board anodized in white. You can read why in this post from The_Beast.

No biggy, as long as it's not black.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 22:35:09 »
I was talking to TC about the logo couple weeks ago about how he can create a limited number of sets of GH LE/SE cases and the rest can be without it.

I'm sure they are reading this as I've forwarded this thread to them :thumb:

Are there RGB SMD LEDs? If there are, that would be nice

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 23:30:16 »
Would probably buy if it's like the leopold fc600m/c layout.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 07 July 2014, 23:32:40 »
Would probably buy if it's like the leopold fc600m/c layout.

that's a variant of the 65% layout.

different usecases than 75%
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 08 July 2014, 04:49:38 »
Why 6.75x space bar?
It can be 1.25-1-1.25-6.25-1.25-1-1-1-1-1

Because I was only talking about ALPS. I haven't seen any alps boards using 6.25 space bars.

Dell AT101w for ex. or am i wrong?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 08 July 2014, 12:48:54 »
oh my bad. yeah dell 101w. facepalm

Not a big fan of those ****ty caps tho.

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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:34:05 »
Yeah they are just "better than nothing"
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:42:09 »
Biggest issue for those wanting alps is the 1.75x r shift. If you don't have a source for them, then GL finding one

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:53:02 »
At least there's a work around since the PCB supports both MX and ALPS. Use MX for mods and ALPS for alphas...mix and match.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 08 July 2014, 18:53:31 »
^ beat me to it.


How about putting a Cherry switch just on the right shift? :D

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 02:21:31 »
maybe 7075 aluminum instead of 6025?

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 03:03:35 »
maybe 7075 aluminum instead of 6025?

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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 03:47:37 »
maybe 7075 aluminum instead of 6025?

this

Why not go all out and have it have a brass/bronze piece at the back too :P

And maybe put a 356cl logo on it as well!
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 04:38:07 »
i would be completely okay with copying the lz fe and remaking it as a 75%.  :)

but with back and side lighting :)
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 09 July 2014, 04:43:25 »
At least there's a work around since the PCB supports both MX and ALPS. Use MX for mods and ALPS for alphas...mix and match.
Ah okay. Solves the infamous alps stabilizer problem

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 00:10:18 »
This is slightly off topic, but could we have a small run of duck PCBs with alps support?
Having a Lightsaver layout with complicated blues would be my dream keyboard.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:06:29 »
Is there a rough time frame for when we can put down our money?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:25:55 »
Are there RGB SMD LEDs? If there are, that would be nice
yeah there's tons. lots of sizes / options / brightness as well. they could just get one in the same size and call it a day.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 30 July 2014, 08:20:03 »
hope this thread gets more attention once the Viper/Eagle GB is underway

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 30 July 2014, 09:17:52 »
Are there RGB SMD LEDs? If there are, that would be nice
yeah there's tons. lots of sizes / options / brightness as well. they could just get one in the same size and call it a day.
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Also, while I have no issues with the current DUCK designs, I think a low-profile yet still heavy case would be a fresh idea.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:24:23 »
Just saw this on kbdlab, could anyone translate this into English? I used gg translate but didn't help much.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=444779&mid=board_Lsno50

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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:38:46 »
Just saw this on kbdlab, could anyone translate this into English? I used gg translate but didn't help much.
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=444779&mid=board_Lsno50

I'm not so interested in what it says as I am in when I can order one :eek:

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:49:53 »
No input on the layout, but whatever it is I would like the case to be flatter.  11 degree angle is roughly equivalent to a *standard* keyboard with feet.  Flat to 6 degrees with optional feet/riser would be better IMO.

So many times this!

I love the design of Duck boards but as someone who prefers his keyboard to be flat I find the steep angle to be a major turn off.
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« Reply #61 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:44:00 »
* Flat case. If you want feet and/or more weights, you screw it on to the underside.
* All 1u keys on Function row.
* All 1u cursor keys
* Right Alt right in front of . (Period key)
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* ISO support.

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« Reply #62 on: Mon, 18 August 2014, 16:16:06 »
ISO support?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 12:00:19 »
They've created a sample for the case.  PCB can still be worked out..I've asked for ISO support, so we'll see..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=453116&mid=board_Lsno50

Duck wants to put sticker in the middle insert, but I would rather have something engraved in it.

They are also planning on this:

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=435541

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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 12:04:09 »
Soooo close to my dream of a 75% Alps board!!!

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 14:22:18 »
They've created a sample for the case.  PCB can still be worked out..I've asked for ISO support, so we'll see..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=453116&mid=board_Lsno50

Duck wants to put sticker in the middle insert, but I would rather have something engraved in it.

They are also planning on this:

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=435541
They look very promising.
I kind of agree with you, the engraved sticker would be better.
Also, somebody mentioned the keyboard angle. This looks a bit steep to me but maybe I prefer less.
When can we buy them?  :thumb:

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:06:13 »
Hi there,

TrueCustom and DUCK is planning on designing a new 75% keyboard.  They would like geekhack's input on a new design or if you would rather they keep their current design like Lightsaver V2, Orion, etc..

I was thinking maybe a geekhack edition with GH SE CNC'd onto the case such as the LZ-GH keyboard. An option of ALPs and MX PCB is a plus as well. More choices the better, right?

Well, please share your ideas here.

Something like the noppoo choc mini that doesn't break after 6 months would be a massive plus, maybe a metal backplate, something that is a little bit more sturdy.

That'd be amazing.

wants: arrow cluster, function keys (similar to noppoo) etc.
don't wants: horrible keys, clutteredness, cheap looking/poor design.
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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:32:55 »
Want both
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« Reply #70 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 16:54:54 »
This is what keeps me excited for the last several days! Duck FTW! I've been looking for a 75% kit with full metal case for so so long.
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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 17:08:58 »
This will be coming after Viper/Eagle, so very soon. Angle should be 11 degrees, same with their other designs.

I'm not too sure about their Duck Nintendo...more info later?

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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:12:10 »
I'm probably gonna have to buy this.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:33:09 »
Why do I feel like our input didn't have much effect? The 75% looks just like the other duck boards minus the little center label part.

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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:06:50 »
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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:28:55 »
Why do I feel like our input didn't have much effect? The 75% looks just like the other duck boards minus the little center label part.

And that little center label part really bugs me.  :))  Maybe it'll look better if it's engraved like elton suggested but right now it annoys the heck out of me.  Like the layout.  Hate that little center nub. :(

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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 20:32:03 »
Why do I feel like our input didn't have much effect? The 75% looks just like the other duck boards minus the little center label part.

And that little center label part really bugs me.  :))  Maybe it'll look better if it's engraved like elton suggested but right now it annoys the heck out of me.  Like the layout.  Hate that little center nub. :(
Agreed, not sure why that is there, kinda reminds me of childhood toys where you have to put the stickers on. Not to mention all the extra cnc cuts you need to make that which increase milling time which then potentially increases costs. :/

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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:39:57 »
ya like seriously.....that's retarded.  get rid of it.

of course, i'll buy it regardless.  any word on price?  can we hope for $300 before shipping?
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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 21:56:39 »
I agree that the design is not perfect. I won't expect duck's to change the angle, since all the duck boards with botom LED have this angle. After Lightsaver V1, V2, light pad, Orion, and Viper/Eagle, I'm a little tired of this bottom LED design. But I will still be down for one and even two for duck's 75% keyboard. There really isn't other options if you want 75% layout with full metal case. Chance for other full metal mx-mini kits? Almost zero. I've been waiting for a whole year for a full metal case mx-mini kit, and I'm still 75%-less.

ya like seriously.....that's retarded.  get rid of it.

of course, i'll buy it regardless.  any word on price?  can we hope for $300 before shipping?

I expect it to be cheaper than Lightsaver V2, which is $295.
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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:19:52 »
I'm on for a 75% - my favorite board! I'm not clever enough to make suggestions except the acylic plate like the Orion.

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:30:46 »
I'd guess the price is between lightsaver and viper/eagle.

I don't think having the acrylic piece in the middle plausible since it's a 1 piece design.

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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:42:37 »
I agree that the design is not perfect. I won't expect duck's to change the angle, since all the duck boards with botom LED have this angle. After Lightsaver V1, V2, light pad, Orion, and Viper/Eagle, I'm a little tired of this bottom LED design. But I will still be down for one and even two for duck's 75% keyboard. There really isn't other options if you want 75% layout with full metal case. Chance for other full metal mx-mini kits? Almost zero. I've been waiting for a whole year for a full metal case mx-mini kit, and I'm still 75%-less.

ya like seriously.....that's retarded.  get rid of it.

of course, i'll buy it regardless.  any word on price?  can we hope for $300 before shipping?

I expect it to be cheaper than Lightsaver V2, which is $295.

nice price!!!! god knows i have tons of switches, caps, and a soldering iron already

ya.  honestly, the design isn't the best, but it's not actually bad.  for that price (as in not $700) and the lack of competitors, i am definitely in.
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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:48:05 »
The price is definitely pretty attractive.  The question is...jump on this when it's available or keep holding out for something better.  :rolleyes:  Just can't get over that stupid nub...

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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 23 August 2014, 20:22:10 »
I'd guess the price is between lightsaver and viper/eagle.

I don't think having the acrylic piece in the middle plausible since it's a 1 piece design.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 17:42:00 »
http://duck0113.tistory.com/99
The metal sticker doesn't look bad at all, and I think we could have some extra to swap if we want to.  :p

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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:21:04 »
I'd guess the price is between lightsaver and viper/eagle.

I don't think having the acrylic piece in the middle plausible since it's a 1 piece design.

Interesting design!  I too thought that having an acrylic layer would be very cool, but from what I've seen of the Orion, it would also make the case / keyboard taller still.  I think there's merit to low laying cases and keyboards.  I'm able to use my LightSaver without a wrist rest, because the front is quite low.  If that's how the 70% board will be designed, I think it's a comfortable height.  I was initially scared of the 11-degree angle, but in practice, the Lightsaver has been a very comfortable keyboard for me (been my main keyboard for quite a while now). 

Another possibility would be to have a bottomless tray of sorts, where there's a large rectangular cut-out at the bottom of the tray, removing *most* of the bottom except a narrow ridge (say 1cm wide), and a transparent thick acrylic sheet is placed at the bottom, over the cut-out.  Then the acrylic sheet bolts from the top onto the ridges of the "tray", and the plate + PCB bolt onto the acrylic plate from the top (say into stand-offs).  That way you have the neat view of the finished PCB, and could still end up with some LEDs at the bottom, visible from the sides (as the case would be elevated slightly by its feet/pads).  That would of course reduce the overall weight (and price), but it would also be a potentially softer and "springier" board to type on.  Could laser something onto the bottom acrylic too.
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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 18:52:23 »
Whoa photoelectric posted! ;)

Also that description made me think of this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1451812.msg#1451812
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:31:10 »
i hope this is the order list  :thumb:
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:47:34 »
does RGB leds mean you can change the color at will? like the B.87 keyboard posted in the Korean thread a few days ago

link for reference: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1451812#msg1451812

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 20:59:40 »
Screw an Alps 75%. A big issue already with 75% right now is keycap compatibility due to odd size mods. You people want to compound this issue with 99% of keycaps not being able to fit either?

A 75% with odd sized keys (invariable), and only fitting an extreme minority of keycaps would be all but unsellable.
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« Reply #90 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 22:19:01 »
i could probably accept gold sticker :)
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 22:47:30 »
i hope this is the order list  :thumb:
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Nope, I am not able to get one, but I sure wish I could!
does RGB leds mean you can change the color at will? like the B.87 keyboard posted in the Korean thread a few days ago

link for reference: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1451812#msg1451812
I suggested in the design topic that the side LEDs be RGB so you could pick the colour instead of having to change them. I think DUck0113 made metal badges with our usernames because we contributed something.

If that's the case, then I think having RGBLEDs on the side is an awesome way to go.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 17:55:06 »
Screw an Alps 75%. A big issue already with 75% right now is keycap compatibility due to odd size mods. You people want to compound this issue with 99% of keycaps not being able to fit either?

A 75% with odd sized keys (invariable), and only fitting an extreme minority of keycaps would be all but unsellable.
The layout with bottom row
1.5 1.5 7 1.5 1.5 1 1 1
It's not uncommon at all (for ex. SGI Granite), the only problem can be the 1.75 shift
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« Reply #93 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:13:55 »
Really want it!
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« Reply #94 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:17:00 »
really want it as well  :p
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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 10:17:43 »
This sounds interesting. I'll check back, hope it's happening.

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« Reply #96 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 21:11:22 »
Have we got any mock up designs of what this could potentially look like yet or?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 01 September 2014, 21:33:00 »
Have we got any mock up designs of what this could potentially look like yet or?


They've created a sample for the case.  PCB can still be worked out..I've asked for ISO support, so we'll see..

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=453116&mid=board_Lsno50

Duck wants to put sticker in the middle insert, but I would rather have something engraved in it.

They are also planning on this:

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=435541

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 15 September 2014, 16:20:21 »
sell it to meeeee

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 15 September 2014, 17:30:31 »
ooo more new ducky keyboards. how interesting. I am in search of a TKL keyboard. tired of the normal ones that take up too much space.

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« Reply #100 on: Mon, 15 September 2014, 17:46:24 »
ooo more new ducky keyboards. how interesting. I am in search of a TKL keyboard. tired of the normal ones that take up too much space.
There's a world of difference between duck and ducky.

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« Reply #101 on: Tue, 16 September 2014, 10:33:28 »
ooo more new ducky keyboards. how interesting. I am in search of a TKL keyboard. tired of the normal ones that take up too much space.
There's a world of difference between duck and ducky.

And a few hundred dollars.

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« Reply #102 on: Tue, 16 September 2014, 12:58:29 »
ooo more new ducky keyboards. how interesting. I am in search of a TKL keyboard. tired of the normal ones that take up too much space.
There's a world of difference between duck and ducky.

And a few hundred dollars.

And one comes with keycaps.   :))

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #103 on: Wed, 17 September 2014, 11:22:32 »
I like the personal touch to the stickers, but the "nubs" is somehow bother me..  :-X
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 18 September 2014, 03:38:53 »
I like the personal touch to the stickers, but the "nubs" is somehow bother me..  :-X

i dont like the nub either but its not too bad with a cord in it

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 18 September 2014, 05:26:01 »


I like the personal touch to the stickers, but the "nubs" is somehow bother me..  :-X

i dont like the nub either but its not too bad with a cord in it

Yup, it looks better with the cable, I'm still trying to get use to the looks.. 

It could also be the way the photos are taken, since it looks better from the top view rather than the from view of the nub..

I wonder will this be implemented for all the future Duck keyboards? 
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 22 September 2014, 23:56:16 »
Just a quick update.  There won't be any ALPs compatibility on this since there are almost no 1.75u shift for ALPs switches.

There was one that was posted earlier, but who wants to pay $100 for a keyboard just for the 1.75u shift?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 23 September 2014, 04:54:40 »
I'm interested in this keyboard, but sad to see that the minimalist flow of the design in disrupted in the middle by the sticker part.

Would there be a "normal" rectangular case without it as an option? Guessing that it's decided for some reason that he wants a sticker area.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 11:12:45 »
Arrr
I thought I found a end game board when I first saw this post....

I dont like duck's design too, hopefully I could find a more interesting case :<
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 18:45:13 »
Will cases/plates be available without PCB?
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« Reply #110 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 10:29:49 »
i hope this is the order list  :thumb:
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« Reply #111 on: Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:30:14 »
Arrr
I thought I found a end game board when I first saw this post....

I dont like duck's design too, hopefully I could find a more interesting case :<

there's gon and that is the only one being made.
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« Reply #112 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 08:46:25 »
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« Reply #113 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:14:11 »
Jeez!

I've been looking for stickers like that.

Where do I get them? Please tell me! :)

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #114 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:33:07 »
More pics of Duck's 75% up on kbdlab.

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=523474
Any ideas what thosed colorbars are used for? is it a part of Duck 75%?

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« Reply #115 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:08:11 »
How did you guys all get name tags made already? Has there been a secret order of 75% duck boards?  :-X

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #116 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:54:13 »
I think the colourbars are the RGB SMDs that you can put on the top and bottom row of the PCB as you can see in the PCB pictures where there are those square shaped spots.  It looks like it only works if you have an acrylic case though as they are facing the bottom..?

Duck probably randomly picked names and made some samples of the stickers..:P

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 11:13:29 »
I see, so it's designed to work with Duck 75%, I have seen some custom PCBs that has LED strips on the bottom, and since it's a custom pcb, it has some hooked wires, which is a mess to me. Interesting. Any chance the acrylic case would be an option in the GB, Elton?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #118 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 12:43:45 »
Please fill in the form if you are interested in this Octagon 75% keyboard.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zj9DyHz4yB0Aksdj6ce6prEuy8RkhS4GFH2svOl1AKw/viewform

There won't be any acrylic case option for the group buy. 

There will be 4 RGB LEDs included for the side. Additional LEDs will be extra cost.

Cost will be around the same price as the Lightsaver. 

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #119 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 14:31:11 »
I'm really into a great 75% custom, but that design, I just get bored with it :(
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #120 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:25:33 »
I'm really into a great 75% custom, but that design, I just get bored with it :(

Well, it now has a special nub at the top with your personalized name if you want...;)

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #121 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 18:36:59 »
Form filled!

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« Reply #122 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 19:52:47 »
i hope this is the order list  :thumb:
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #123 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 20:55:42 »
All these amazing ICs for GBs... please let one of them happen. My body is ready.

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« Reply #124 on: Sat, 27 September 2014, 23:10:57 »
Please fill in the form if you are interested in this Octagon 75% keyboard.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zj9DyHz4yB0Aksdj6ce6prEuy8RkhS4GFH2svOl1AKw/viewform

There won't be any acrylic case option for the group buy. 

There will be 4 RGB LEDs included for the side. Additional LEDs will be extra cost.

Cost will be around the same price as the Lightsaver.

For the same price I provably prefer the light saver, especially since missing out on the v2 GB.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 29 September 2014, 12:33:32 »
does the Octagon design give this board a bulky look? contrast it with the Orion and you'll see what i mean

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:48:18 »
New pictures of fully assembled Octagon 75%

http://duck0113.tistory.com/101

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 03 October 2014, 19:57:10 »
Hmm... The assembled one does not look as good as I expect it to be.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #128 on: Fri, 03 October 2014, 20:01:39 »
looks like a massive incline.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:17:35 »
New pictures of fully assembled Octagon 75%

http://duck0113.tistory.com/101

I actually like it. Do you have a better idea of approximately how much it would cost?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 01:36:35 »
New pictures of fully assembled Octagon 75%

http://duck0113.tistory.com/101

I actually like it. Do you have a better idea of approximately how much it would cost?

I think Elton said its around similar cost to Light Saver

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 09:09:30 »
I think he said before that it would be between a lightsaver and another duck board in pricing but I wasn't sure if he has a closer estimate now.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #132 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 10:57:30 »
It is similar cost to the lightsaver because of the newly designed PCB with RGB compatibility.

It is still cheaper than most of the other Korean keyboards.

The 40% keyboard from this one Korean keyboard maker is around $240.  Just for reference and that keyboard is not full aluminum (2 thin aluminum plates with PC walls).  Well his prices are always astronomical..

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:34:13 »
Is there an approximate date when the GB for this will start?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #134 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 14:06:14 »
GB date is still tbd.


video of the case with RGB on.

some more pictures

http://duck0113.tistory.com/103
http://duck0113.tistory.com/102

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #135 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 14:25:58 »
I must have missed it but will the thing at the center top aprt of the board be etched for personalization or will it just come with a personalized sticker that we will be attaching?
« Last Edit: Sat, 04 October 2014, 15:51:50 by Synjin »

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #136 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 15:19:40 »
personalized metal stickers

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #137 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 18:06:13 »
GB date is still tbd.


video of the case with RGB on.

some more pictures

http://duck0113.tistory.com/103
http://duck0113.tistory.com/102


I don't understand where the rgb LEDs are installed? Can you still get that effect once switches and keycaps are in?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #138 on: Sat, 04 October 2014, 18:13:19 »
http://duck0113.tistory.com/101 this site contains images  of where he rgb led are installed and I'm assuming that the firmware let's you control the colors

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #139 on: Sun, 05 October 2014, 02:33:44 »
http://duck0113.tistory.com/101 this site contains images  of where he rgb led are installed and I'm assuming that the firmware let's you control the colors

I see, so you can't use a plate if you want to see the RGB effects.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #140 on: Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:18:50 »
No I don't think you can't use a plate to get that effect.  The light will shine around the outside of the PCB and plate even with caps on. That's what it looks like at least.

Also there are 4 different layout options.
http://duck0113.tistory.com/105

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:46:42 »
No ISO layout?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #142 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:11:50 »
They decided not to add that I guess..

Here's a picture of how the LEDs under the PCB light up around the keyboard.




Video


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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #143 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:17:58 »
Any idea when this group buy will be up?
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« Reply #144 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 18:19:50 »
They decided not to add that I guess..

Here's a picture of how the LEDs under the PCB light up around the keyboard.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #145 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 19:15:20 »
My gosh I wish this GB would start now so i can quickly purchase it and get it out of the way from my Want list

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #146 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:13:40 »
My gosh I wish this GB would start now so i can quickly purchase it and get it out of the way from my Want list

Same here I've sold almost all my other boards in anticipation for this and my coming alt60

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #147 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:17:30 »
My gosh I wish this GB would start now so i can quickly purchase it and get it out of the way from my Want list

Same here I've sold almost all my other boards in anticipation for this and my coming alt60

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 15 October 2014, 10:20:50 »
I just got a viper and eagle so this would be my first 75%

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #149 on: Thu, 16 October 2014, 23:44:28 »
Any update on this? :D This is end game stuff imo. :eek:

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 02:36:30 »
http://duck0113.tistory.com/101 this site contains images  of where he rgb led are installed and I'm assuming that the firmware let's you control the colors

I see, so you can't use a plate if you want to see the RGB effects.

the RGBLEDs are on the other side of the SCB from where a plate would go. The 2 on the sides shine down on your desk through the holes in the case, just like all the other duck keyboards (my idea!). The rest are positioned around the edge and wolud shine out through the side of the case through that plastic spacer.

I really like how duck has gone to RGBLED: I think it's a great step in the right direction. I will probably have to pick up one of the next generation.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #151 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 03:57:04 »
just a suggestion :D
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #152 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 04:18:17 »
....

why?

....
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #153 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 16:45:05 »
http://duck0113.tistory.com/101 this site contains images  of where he rgb led are installed and I'm assuming that the firmware let's you control the colors

I see, so you can't use a plate if you want to see the RGB effects.

the RGBLEDs are on the other side of the SCB from where a plate would go. The 2 on the sides shine down on your desk through the holes in the case, just like all the other duck keyboards (my idea!). The rest are positioned around the edge and wolud shine out through the side of the case through that plastic spacer.

I really like how duck has gone to RGBLED: I think it's a great step in the right direction. I will probably have to pick up one of the next generation.

Oh right. I forgot about the plastic spacer!

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #154 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:19:20 »
Final pictures and videos of the Octagon before a GB...

http://duck0113.tistory.com/108

The Koreans are starting next week..

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #155 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:23:52 »
Hopefully I will be participating in this!
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #156 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:34:54 »
Final pictures and videos of the Octagon before a GB...

http://duck0113.tistory.com/108

The Koreans are starting next week..
Have they decided the set price yet?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #157 on: Fri, 17 October 2014, 18:45:51 »
Around $295 for sure.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #158 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 04:17:09 »
When will geekhack group buy start elton?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #159 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 05:47:07 »
I'll ask here too:
Does anyone know where Duck got the HHKB stickers he put on his Viper?
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #160 on: Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:08:08 »
When will geekhack group buy start elton?

Maybe next week or 2.

I'll ask here too:
Does anyone know where Duck got the HHKB stickers he put on his Viper?

He probably had his made like the stickers for the Octagon.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 09:29:30 »
Just as it is would be fine for me. If it's sub $300, count me in.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #162 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 09:41:27 »
For me
-Plate with cutouts
-Yes, a GH version would be swell.
-Primarily a linear person but I could try ALPs too, so alps and mx compatible pcb would be nice.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 11:53:07 »
I thought I was dreaming when I saw this:)

80297-0

I guess I have to get one now.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 17:24:11 »
put me down too.
exactly what i've been looking for

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #165 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 17:40:45 »
Elton, will this GB be available in 2 rounds like with the Viper/Duck?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #166 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 19:18:56 »
So this is a 'tray style' case so it's made up of one piece of metal and a plate, so it won't be as 'solid' as a KMAC, correct? How about compared to a GON, this will be more solid right? Sorry for the silly question.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #167 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 19:49:06 »
So this is a 'tray style' case so it's made up of one piece of metal and a plate, so it won't be as 'solid' as a KMAC, correct? How about compared to a GON, this will be more solid right? Sorry for the silly question.

Yes it's tray style case. It might not be as solid as KMAC, but it has a lot more metal than Gon.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #168 on: Mon, 20 October 2014, 19:52:43 »
So this is a 'tray style' case so it's made up of one piece of metal and a plate, so it won't be as 'solid' as a KMAC, correct? How about compared to a GON, this will be more solid right? Sorry for the silly question.

Yes it's tray style case. It might not be as solid as KMAC, but it has a lot more metal than Gon.
Ok thanks. Very excited for the group buy :).

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #169 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 15:06:48 »
I might be interested but can some one explain the appeal of that steep incline on the case?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #170 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 15:12:14 »
So this is a 'tray style' case so it's made up of one piece of metal and a plate, so it won't be as 'solid' as a KMAC, correct? How about compared to a GON, this will be more solid right? Sorry for the silly question.

Yes it's tray style case. It might not be as solid as KMAC, but it has a lot more metal than Gon.

My lightsaver (tray style) feels more solid than my KMAC did, but I suspect that's because of the steel plate on the lightsaver and the aluminium plate on the KMAC (now sold).

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 15:17:12 »
I might be interested but can some one explain the appeal of that steep incline on the case?

This is my personal opinion but the incline on my lightsaver isn't bad at all and it appears to be very comparable if not the same on the 75%. I use a Filco wrist rest so my palms sit at a good height and is very comfortable to type on. I wouldn't recommend a DSA set for such a board but to each their own. =)

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #172 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 15:26:35 »
I might be interested but can some one explain the appeal of that steep incline on the case?

This is my personal opinion but the incline on my lightsaver isn't bad at all and it appears to be very comparable if not the same on the 75%. I use a Filco wrist rest so my palms sit at a good height and is very comfortable to type on. I wouldn't recommend a DSA set for such a board but to each their own. =)

Yeah I wouldn't use anything but a sculptured set on something with that steep of an incline. I actually really like DSA and I tend to lay my keyboards down flat so I might have to pass although the layout on this looks awesome.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #173 on: Tue, 21 October 2014, 19:24:28 »
I might be interested but can some one explain the appeal of that steep incline on the case?

This is my personal opinion but the incline on my lightsaver isn't bad at all and it appears to be very comparable if not the same on the 75%. I use a Filco wrist rest so my palms sit at a good height and is very comfortable to type on. I wouldn't recommend a DSA set for such a board but to each their own. =)

Yeah I wouldn't use anything but a sculptured set on something with that steep of an incline. I actually really like DSA and I tend to lay my keyboards down flat so I might have to pass although the layout on this looks awesome.

I had the same reservations, preferring the flat profile of a Filco without its feet extended, but the Lightsaver is quite low along the front, and overall typing angle is very comfortable.  I like Cherry profile keycaps on it.
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #174 on: Thu, 23 October 2014, 12:46:14 »
Group buy is up on KBDLAB.  http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=759188&mid=board_gb_outside

I'll have one up next week.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #175 on: Thu, 23 October 2014, 14:20:52 »
Will this GB be similar as the lightsaver where you're buying the assembly kit to make one of these... with an option for full assembly, for an added price?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #176 on: Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:16:53 »
I won't be adding assembly as an option.  Took too long last round..

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #177 on: Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:27:04 »
Group buy is up on KBDLAB.  http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=759188&mid=board_gb_outside

I'll have one up next week.
So this time Korean and GH GBs will be happening at the same time or we will have to wait for the Korean 1st like Viper/Eagle GB?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #178 on: Thu, 23 October 2014, 17:31:59 »
I'm assuming together since ours will start next week and this started this week?

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #179 on: Fri, 24 October 2014, 12:48:51 »
GB will start about the same time, but the lead time for shipping is 3 months.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #180 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:45:28 »
GB will start about the same time, but the lead time for shipping is 3 months.

I am not so patiently waiting for this to start! I keep refreshing the group buy thread! :p

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #181 on: Fri, 31 October 2014, 20:51:45 »
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #182 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 01:18:50 »
I made the group buy already earlier tonight. Just waiting for mods to approve it. ;)

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #183 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 08:52:05 »
Quickly mods, approve it so I can join in.

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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
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Re: DUCK 75% Keyboard - Discussion
« Reply #185 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 08:54:17 »
Quickly mods, approve it so I can join in.

It's already been approved

edit: bit too slow on the reply  :p