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Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 June 2011, 11:20:45
NO LONGER FOR RAISED LEGEND STYLE. NOW CONSIDERING PAD PRINTED ONLY.

UPDATE 2: Quote from SP is $500 per legend to get JUST the molds made = $51,500 for 103 (space would not have a legend), $43,000 for 86, $18,500 for 37, so this is massively expensive. We would need a LOT of orders, at least 800 to justify this to get the per unit cost down to something reasonable. I think this will not happen. I asked if there was anything to bring the cost down, and the response was pad printing...

UPDATE 3: Since some of you expressed interest in pad printed ninja keys, I followed up. Prices as follows: 30 sets - $96.57 / set, If there is enough interest for more than 30 sets, obviously the price will decrease further. All sets must be the same color combination. Legends can be in the following colors: Black, Gray, Blue, White, Green, Red, and Yellow.

If you are interested in PAD PRINTED ninja keycap set please post. If you have already posted, please post again if you are interested in pad printed set. I will not count you if you do not expressly include "Yes pad printed" in your reply.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: reaper on Tue, 28 June 2011, 11:28:54
I would if it isn't too expensive.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: khanable on Tue, 28 June 2011, 11:39:54
Quote from: reaper~;369463
I would if it isn't too expensive.

Me too if they come in black :p
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: peda on Tue, 28 June 2011, 12:01:00
Quote from: reaper~;369463
I would if it isn't too expensive.

+1 but i like the ninja style quiet a lot and therefore my tolerance for the price might be pretty high... ;)
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 June 2011, 12:10:29
After several back and forths with Melissa making it clear what needs to be done, it sounds like a mold for every key with the raised legends will need to be made. Hopefully I'll have the quote soon and will update. If there is enough interest in black I see no reason why we couldn't get both or change from white to black. It all depends on who is interested in what, and if we can get enough sets to make it viable so they don't cost $90 a set.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: ogreofdakka on Tue, 28 June 2011, 12:13:42
Keycaps of Awesomeness

+1 Interest
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 June 2011, 12:21:47
I'm interested if the price is right
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: onesie on Tue, 28 June 2011, 12:26:56
also interested
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: placebo guy on Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:09:43
In for a set, perhaps two if price is good.

07/05/11 - Too rich for my blood.  I'm out.  Sorry.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: daerid on Tue, 28 June 2011, 20:08:43
Quote from: placebo guy;369640
In for a set, perhaps two if price is good.

Ditto
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Wed, 29 June 2011, 03:06:08
so these will be be molded into the side of the keys and not sticker?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: Nox on Wed, 29 June 2011, 04:12:09
I'd be down for a set
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: Brodie337 on Wed, 29 June 2011, 05:47:40
If theres a Poker set, Im definitely in, if the price isn't stratospheric.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 June 2011, 07:13:15
Yes thats correct, the legend will be in the same part as the key as a single injection mold. Keycaps would be poker compatible, you will just have some extra ones. Still working out some of the details on design to try to keep the cost down. I had originally thought 104 set for highest compatibility, but that might get shaved down to an 87, or even 37 if the price is too high. Since a new mold will need to be made for each key, obviously the more molds that need to be made the more it will cost. Hopefully I'll have some quotes by the end of the day.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: siz2rp on Thu, 30 June 2011, 13:51:31
I would be in for a full set of these with white text on black keys, or black text on white keys.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 30 June 2011, 14:01:11
In, assuming they're black and Leopold-compatible.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 30 June 2011, 23:02:53
Updated op with quote. Looks like this idea is going to be cost prohibitive.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: dreamingftw on Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:09:44
crazy expensive...
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: peda on Fri, 01 July 2011, 12:38:52
Quote from: dreamingftw;371278
crazy expensive...

yes, unfortunately...

or anybody willing to buy 780 sets so the rest of us get if for a descend price?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: daerid on Fri, 01 July 2011, 14:25:43
I for one wouldn't mind pad printing on these caps. The legends won't be getting much wear anyways, so the printing should stay for quite a while.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 01 July 2011, 16:38:15
just around my price range
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: JAMM0N on Fri, 01 July 2011, 23:41:18
how much would be for a set?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 02 July 2011, 08:46:07
Oh only $3500 per set, quite a deal. I don't think pad printing is a good option. Besides there are dyesubed ninja available from KBC which would be better than a pad printed. Why can't I close this thread?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: Haes on Sat, 02 July 2011, 17:38:33
i would be in for one set, if the price is right :)
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: 7bit on Sat, 02 July 2011, 17:46:42
Quote from: lysol;369460
UPDATE 2: Quote from SP is $500 per legend to get JUST the molds made = $51,500 for 103 (space would not have a legend), $43,000 for 86, $18,500 for 37, so this is massively expensive. We would need a LOT of orders, at least 800 to justify this to get the per unit cost down to something reasonable. I think this will not happen. I asked if there was anything to bring the cost down, and the response was pad printing...

 
Pad printing to the sides is not that bad. Usually the keys are only touched at their top and experience shows, that keyboards almost never get cleaned until some dude paid a lot of $$$ @ ebay to get an old, used keyboard.

Did you ask for a price?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sat, 02 July 2011, 17:48:33
Just want to point out that those are silver-foil stickers.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: 7bit on Sat, 02 July 2011, 17:54:20
Quote from: DaemonRaccoon;372146
Just want to point out that those are silver-foil stickers.

 
Yes, but as far as I know, SP could not do them in silver.
(http://www.otd.kr/data/file/album/1889479458_81ee7f40_P1030136.jpg)
^^ BTW: whodunit?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sat, 02 July 2011, 18:01:18
All I know is it was done by someone on OTD.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 05 July 2011, 16:43:40
Updated OP with pad printed quote.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: Inverted on Tue, 05 July 2011, 23:52:43
I'm interested, Ill check back soon
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: reaper on Wed, 06 July 2011, 00:17:36
$96.57 per set?  Man, that's a little high for a set of keycaps.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 06 July 2011, 01:17:33
Quote from: reaper~;374323
$96.57 per set?  Man, that's a little high for a set of keycaps.

yea it is. the ones off taobao are only 5
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 06 July 2011, 08:09:52
These could be that cheap too if hundreds of sets were made. Only when you can hit a certain volume does the per set price become reasonable. This price is also based on a 104 set.
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: Waterdr1nker on Fri, 08 July 2011, 19:00:01
Does anyone know if Filco sells Ninja keycaps only? or any manufacturer for that matter?
Title: Interest check for raised legend 'ninja' style keycaps
Post by: reaper on Fri, 08 July 2011, 19:04:53
^ Filco doesn't sell them separately.  At least not yet anyway.  There are some Chinese clones on Taobao (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10439561168&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=) (btw, they're ABS not PBT).