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Title: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 01 August 2019, 09:18:30
Good day.

Today I am honored to announce the group buy start of our community project, the Add-on Kit for OG Keycaps from vintage Cherry boards called "GMK Missing Keys".

(https://mykeyboard.eu/media/cache/7b/9c/7b9c338475c85be8db8935ae411968af.jpg)
 
This set will allow you to:


Pricing / Vendors:

- Europe: mykeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-missing-keys_1150/) 44 EUR
- North America: cannonkeys.com (https://cannonkeys.com/collections/featured/products/gb-gmk-missing-keys) 49 USD
- Asia: ilumkb.com (https://ilumkb.com/collections/groupbuy/products/group-buygmk-missing-keys) 72.90 SGD

Expected Delivery: January 2020

GB Start: August 1st 2019
GB End: August 31st 2019

Thanks to pngu for doing free renders and helping gather community feedback.
Thanks to Wodan for "approving" this HADapter like Kit.
I initiated this but it quickly became pngu and my project and we are both making zero profit from this set to provide the lowest price possible and the highest number of keys possible to the community.

For people unfamiliar with OG keycaps: To obtain a full modern GMK like keycap set, you need a Cherry keyboard from the late 80s or early 90s with doubleshot keycaps, e.g. G80 or G81 and combine it with this kit.

Here is an example for you. (https://imgur.com/a/gRvc6rH) An ebay board for 20-30 bucks which arrived at my doorstep yesterday. I removed the keycaps and cleaned them in denture tabs for about 30 minutes. With the Add-On set from this GB I can now use it on modern custom keyboards. There are also a lot of old QWERTY ISO keyboards which can be ANSIfied with this Add-On set or provide icon mods to ANSI OG (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/439188936531771392/606232913444601856/s-l1600.png?width=1440&height=631) keycaps.

This is what you can achieve with this GMK Missing Keys and OG keycaps: AKB-OGR (https://imgur.com/a/Y5wUF9l)

(https://i.imgur.com/w3HbM7p.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 01 August 2019, 10:02:07
Can we get these pre-shined up?  :))
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: DJSwayde on Thu, 01 August 2019, 10:59:12
Can we get these pre-shined up?  :))

Seconded.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: Emir on Thu, 01 August 2019, 12:27:03
Woop! Been waiting for this for so long!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: bnhw on Thu, 01 August 2019, 15:42:12
Somehow decided I needed to buy 3 of these. Good work!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: the_mihalich on Thu, 01 August 2019, 16:01:45
Why it lacks 7u spacebar and 1.5-1-1.5 mods?
Why not add several keys to revive the glorious unobtainable HADapter?

I have that weird g81 with crooked lower row with unusable spacebar and shifted pad printed mods.
Using this kit its impossible to rebuild 7u wkl set or tsangan or hhkb .
Is there any chance to add the 7u lower row?

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 01 August 2019, 16:40:46
Why it lacks 7u spacebar and 1.5-1-1.5 mods?
Why not add several keys to revive the glorious unobtainable HADapter?

I have that weird g81 with crooked lower row with unusable spacebar and shifted pad printed mods.
Using this kit its impossible to rebuild 7u wkl set or tsangan or hhkb .
Is there any chance to add the 7u lower row?
Sorry, IC is over and the price has been negotiated with vendors and GMK.
This set and HADapter are based on keyboards which have a 1.5-space-1.5-7-1.5-space-1.5 bottom row (the one shown in my example images).
For all others, we can only offer the existing bottom row which is part of the set which is the most common one for modern keyboards. The bottom row measurements are the same in this kit and HADapter which also did not have a 7u spacebar.
You can get spacebars and modifiers on Originative Co. for example and there was an OG spacebar Kit by Hineybush which might have some leftovers. Not sure if that helps, though.
Sorry mate :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 08 August 2019, 02:25:54
Hey guys! Quick update -- we're not off to the best start, which is to be expected because this is such a busy month. Not only are there a lot of keycap sets being ran right now (12-13 to my knowledge!), but the long awaited polaris keyboard that many have been saving their money for also just went live.

The GB went live on short notice so I understand that many might have missed it, I am sorry about that and the lack of information on my part.

Luckily, we still have a lot of time - let's not miss out on this opportunity! :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: Emir on Thu, 08 August 2019, 02:35:46
Somehow decided I needed to buy 3 of these. Good work!

Yeah, question is not really IF it should be purchased, but rather "how many"! :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 09 August 2019, 06:14:18
Hey guys! Quick update -- we're not off to the best start, which is to be expected because this is such a busy month. Not only are there a lot of keycap sets being ran right now (12-13 to my knowledge!), but the long awaited polaris keyboard that many have been saving their money for also just went live.

The GB went live on short notice so I understand that many might have missed it, I am sorry about that and the lack of information on my part.

Luckily, we still have a lot of time - let's not miss out on this opportunity! :D
It appears we'll need some strong marketing.

Let's make it happen. Let's also get regular updates on numbers to see how we're doing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 09 August 2019, 07:12:52
Why it lacks 7u spacebar and 1.5-1-1.5 mods?
Why not add several keys to revive the glorious unobtainable HADapter?

I have that weird g81 with crooked lower row with unusable spacebar and shifted pad printed mods.
Using this kit its impossible to rebuild 7u wkl set or tsangan or hhkb .
Is there any chance to add the 7u lower row?

I realize this set has a purpose and it's probably already been brought up, but it does kinda need a 7u spacebar and some 1.5 control / alt mods in R4 or R5.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 09 August 2019, 07:47:20
Text + icon otherwise might as well just get 9009 r3
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: Emir on Sat, 10 August 2019, 14:30:54
Why it lacks 7u spacebar and 1.5-1-1.5 mods?
Why not add several keys to revive the glorious unobtainable HADapter?

I have that weird g81 with crooked lower row with unusable spacebar and shifted pad printed mods.
Using this kit its impossible to rebuild 7u wkl set or tsangan or hhkb .
Is there any chance to add the 7u lower row?

I realize this set has a purpose and it's probably already been brought up, but it does kinda need a 7u spacebar and some 1.5 control / alt mods in R4 or R5.

The main idea is to turn an OG set into modern compat -- OG sets commonly come with 7u spacebars and 1.5u bottom rows, which is why it was skipped for this kit.
To me, it makes a lot of sense actually, but yeah, you'll always have some compromises in order to keep the kit pricing down.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Sat, 10 August 2019, 23:11:08
I need stepped Icon Capslock and non-stepped Text Capslock.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:29:56
Renders added, thanks to satanarchist.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: Emir on Fri, 16 August 2019, 01:14:43
Renders added, thanks to satanarchist.

I recommend using the lmg tag, so people don't have to go to external links to see the images!

What lovely renders, world class 👌
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 20 August 2019, 03:58:21
ok, done.

Still need every support we can get!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: guzzi on Tue, 20 August 2019, 04:42:20
Where are we currently at in terms of numbers
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 20 August 2019, 16:12:07
great set, been a number of years since i remember anyone running one of these, and much needed for every collector

<3
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB live!)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 27 August 2019, 02:44:06
There is a chance that reaching MoQ is not a problem. If you are interested, jump on the train. This kind of set is not run very often!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Ends soon!)
Post by: iliketimex on Thu, 29 August 2019, 23:07:00
Ordered a set. I wish we could get OG boards like yours off ebay for $30! Not seeing anything like that unless it ships from the Eurozone.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Ends soon!)
Post by: long_qt_pie on Fri, 30 August 2019, 08:30:41
How does these shades compare to the NCRs dyesub Gray, I know theyre mods match decently well but howbout the alpha color?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Ends soon!)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 30 August 2019, 13:46:54
How does these shades compare to the NCRs dyesub Gray, I know theyre mods match decently well but howbout the alpha color?

These are classic Cherry beige color.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB officially Ended, but still can be joined)
Post by: jani80k on Wed, 11 September 2019, 06:41:56
At the moment, we are pretty close to MoQ. If you want, you can still buy the set. Discussing extras with vendors. Of course, every purchase helps!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: Emir on Wed, 11 September 2019, 06:50:07
Come on people, you can't have enough OG sets in your collection! At least one kit of missing keys at this fantastic price is a must buy!

Any news on if it'll get made?  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: jani80k on Fri, 13 September 2019, 10:08:49
After clarifying all the details, there is nothing but good news. The order will be submitted to GMK during the next week.
Thanks to everyone supporting this set - buyers and vendors!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 13 September 2019, 10:11:03
After clarifying all the details, there is nothing but good news. The order will be submitted to GMK during the next week.
Thanks to everyone supporting this set - buyers and vendors!
Wooooooooooooo
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: MacSurfy on Fri, 13 September 2019, 10:39:43
That's great news! Congrats to you and all the buyers!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: Emir on Fri, 13 September 2019, 13:30:56
ayyy! Only regret is not grabbing more than I already did! :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: HWHobby on Sat, 14 September 2019, 13:45:05
Great News, I could only stretch for 2 sets but between this and the split spacebar kit from Novelkeys, I am going to enjoy some OG sets on some silly layouts lol!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GB Ended)
Post by: jani80k on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:21:51
We have received the official GMK renders a few days ago to confirm what they will produce.

[attachimg=1]

I compared this to our sales render and could not find a difference, in case you find one, hit me up on discord jANI80k#5980
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: Emir on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:29:06
Woop woop! Make sure to specify traditional icon positioning. ;)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:37:40
Woop woop! Make sure to specify traditional icon positioning. ;)

I have reminded our vendors to put emphasis on this point.
Nevertheless, this is exactly what the renders are for and to my eyes, they look correct.

We are using the "old" icon mods from this comparison (https://i.imgur.com/rdbJeXR.jpg).
So all should be good.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 12 November 2019, 03:01:44
Update: Expected shipping date to vendors is Feb 5th 2020. Production is maxed out because of all the sets running and German christmas holidays are coming up (roughly 2 weeks). Sorry guys :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: adxlk on Wed, 13 November 2019, 09:12:04
Hello, I know this might sound late but if anyone is looking to sell their spot, I'd really appreciate taking in their place. If you want to get into contact with me, I'll reply faster on discord: adxlk | Mauritian#3587
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: long_qt_pie on Sun, 05 January 2020, 07:58:14
Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Fri, 10 January 2020, 03:35:30
Update: Expected shipping date to vendors is Feb 5th 2020. Production is maxed out because of all the sets running and German christmas holidays are coming up (roughly 2 weeks). Sorry guys :(

happy to hear that (i mean the fact that it's being produced at all). had ordered via mykeyboard.eu. soon the wait will be over. looking forward. specially in combination with this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103517.0).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Fri, 10 January 2020, 04:43:57
I used these: https://www.originativeco.com/products/neon-rgby-modifiers

theyre less keys and more expensive tho...

(https://deskthority.net/download/file.php?id=57529 width=100])

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Fri, 10 January 2020, 05:10:54
I used these: https://www.originativeco.com/products/neon-rgby-modifiers

theyre less keys and more expensive tho...

Show Image
(https://deskthority.net/download/file.php?id=57529 width=100])


...but it's R4. apart from that, nice build.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 14 January 2020, 08:21:30
Just received an update. GMK  delayed our order. It will be delivered at the end of Feb, now.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: HWHobby on Sun, 19 January 2020, 23:22:53
Just received an update. GMK  delayed our order. It will be delivered at the end of Feb, now.

Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: phinix on Tue, 28 January 2020, 06:42:25
I'll buy one kit if someone doesn't want it, once these are in :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: bigapplepietart on Wed, 29 January 2020, 12:21:50
Looking to buy someone's set or get some extras (if they arrive).
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: NorrisB on Sat, 08 February 2020, 19:49:06
Hello, I know this might sound late but if anyone is looking to sell their spot, I'd really appreciate taking in their place. If you want to get into contact with me, I'll reply faster on discord: adxlk | Mauritian#3587

You think you'll have any extras?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Tue, 11 February 2020, 03:39:10
I'm angry at myself for ordering only one set. I have many old HAD and HAU sets that need this.
Anyone wanting to get rid of a set, pm me please.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: ttom on Tue, 25 February 2020, 14:02:05
still on track for end of feb?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: trg1234 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 13:44:23
Is there any update on this. Can't seem to find anything posted officially.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 02 March 2020, 14:57:31
Yeah, something would be nice since it's no longer the end of February.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:50:24
Hi guys,
Update will follow soon.
Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 10 March 2020, 22:36:00
Hello everyone,
for reasons I have no control over delivery has been postponed to end of March.
Sorry for the invonvenience.
Cheers,
Jani
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Mon, 30 March 2020, 09:05:15
Hello everyone.
Due to Corona Crisis the confirmed shipping date to vendors has been moved to April 17th.
Stay healthy!
Cheers,
Jani
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 09 April 2020, 07:05:16
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March May.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

Best regards,
Jani
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:02:11
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

Best regards,
Jani
You probably meant May but understood.

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:14:05
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: Emir on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:14:35
Appreciate the update!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:40:13
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.

You'd think so, but GMK Greek Beige Add-on is facing a similar issue.

We ended the GB entry period on November 16, 2019. It's April and we still haven't gotten even close to finishing production.

GMK is overwhelmed, and it has begun to show amidst all this in their delays in responses and production.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:58:24
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.
I agree.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: Azurewrath on Thu, 09 April 2020, 09:20:07
Guess i missed the group buying phase.. but since they are still not delivered: can you tell me if any extra sets are being produced to purchase from the vendors (specifically EU)?

Or does anyone not want their order anymore? I'd take 1-2 of these kits. :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 09 April 2020, 09:46:51
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.

You'd think so, but GMK Greek Beige Add-on is facing a similar issue.

We ended the GB entry period on November 16, 2019. It's April and we still haven't gotten even close to finishing production.

GMK is overwhelmed, and it has begun to show amidst all this in their delays in responses and production.

I thought I read that they were supposed to be adding machines and help to ramp up production? We've gone from 4 months on fairly large MOQ sets to almost eight plus months. Looks like 8008 took almost eight months to ship from what I can tell. A simple beige add on in stock colors taking this long seems ridiculous.

They almost need to start limiting the number of sets they accept in any given month, or god forbid we stop cramming more rainbow puke weeb sets into the queue.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Thu, 09 April 2020, 12:14:06
They also respond slowly, yes. Also Coronavirus rampdown has an effect.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: HWHobby on Fri, 01 May 2020, 21:29:11
Here is hoping we get an update next week  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: phinix on Fri, 08 May 2020, 05:36:48
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March May.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

Best regards,
Jani

Hello, are we on track with this?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: HWHobby on Sun, 10 May 2020, 20:20:32
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March May.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

Best regards,
Jani



Hello, are we on track with this?

Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Mon, 11 May 2020, 02:53:50
No news yet, but should be shipping this week to vendors. At this point I am a customer like everyone else.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: placebo guy on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:20:19
Icon legends look good on some other sets. I pray the GODS are kind to us.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: whitty on Mon, 11 May 2020, 22:39:11
Will there be any extras?


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:29:10
Icon legends look good on some other sets. I pray the GODS are kind to us.

yes, that is what I am thinking.

I may turn out as our luck that this set has been delayed so much  because the WOB/BOW Icon Mod drama maybe changed the mindset of GMK production engineers.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
Post by: jani80k on Fri, 15 May 2020, 06:32:28
I have received information that GMK has shipped out the set and it has arrived at our European vendor. The set is looking good and does not seem to have the issues that GMK WOB/BOW icond mods had for example.
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3][attach=4][attach=5][attach=6]
1. Just because the sets have arrived does not mean that they will be shipped out immediately, please be patient.
2. Our US and Asian vendor will not received their sets as quickly as the European vendor has.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
Post by: Emir on Fri, 15 May 2020, 06:54:51
HALLELUJA
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
Post by: wholypantalones on Fri, 15 May 2020, 08:50:54
Nice.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
Post by: ehmlis on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:53:27
Phew, I was scared I would receive ****ty legends again, but now I'm so hyped instead!  ;D :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
Post by: kamisamamizu on Fri, 15 May 2020, 14:41:27
Hallelujah! Damn it's been a while but I hope I get it asap!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 15 May 2020, 16:44:44
Oh **** yeah
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
Post by: jani80k on Wed, 20 May 2020, 01:33:21
Phew, I was scared I would receive ****ty legends again, but now I'm so hyped instead!  ;D :thumb:
it looks like GMK has fixed the issue.
I mean it can only be sth small that went wrong. according to them they have better machines now than cherry  used to have and cherry doubleshots were pretty much flawless compared wo what we have seen by GMK in the recent past.
let's hope for the best so that we can still enjoy great GMK sets in the future! in my opinion there is no keycap which comes close.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: koenoe on Wed, 20 May 2020, 02:24:15
FINALLY ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/YQdl7W6.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: jani80k on Fri, 22 May 2020, 04:36:21
I was finally able to put keycaps on my Cypher with the help of this set.

Symmetrical R5 bottom row.

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:07:47
I was finally able to put keycaps on my Cypher with the help of this set.

Symmetrical R5 bottom row.

(Attachment Link)
Beautiful.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: kamisamamizu on Fri, 22 May 2020, 14:35:08
I was finally able to put keycaps on my Cypher with the help of this set.

Symmetrical R5 bottom row.

(Attachment Link)
Great board! Is it a r2 or r1 cypher, I have mine but it's ansi so I'd feel bad putting my og caps, even if I easily can with missing keys.
Btw, my novatouch is complete! All bottom row caps and the caps lock have been replaced and now are all the same color and feel!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 24 May 2020, 11:53:17
(https://imgur.com/oraKMSQ.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/Pin4iE0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: guzzi on Sun, 24 May 2020, 12:49:41
I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: wholypantalones on Sun, 24 May 2020, 14:26:41
I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

(Attachment Link)

Soak them in peroxide under a UV light or retrobright them.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: jani80k on Mon, 25 May 2020, 00:16:05
Actually, we found outthat sunlight on its own is enough.
But there must not be a window in between. Sunlight must be direct.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 25 May 2020, 00:23:53
Actually, we found outthat sunlight on its own is enough.
But there must not be a window in between. Sunlight must be direct.

You can even just use a sous-vide

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=19220
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: kamisamamizu on Mon, 25 May 2020, 01:55:19
Yeah, I found out that my caps are a little bit yellowed. Will look into retrobrighting, but finding peroxide with large enough concentrations is going to be a pita.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: phinix on Mon, 25 May 2020, 06:41:57
I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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Use peroxide, soak for 4 hours in the sun.
I did it to my OG caps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101253.msg2786753#msg2786753
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: guzzi on Mon, 25 May 2020, 07:03:20
I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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Use peroxide, soak for 4 hours in the sun.
I did it to my OG caps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101253.msg2786753#msg2786753

Looks great, I'll source some peroxide and try it out in a couple of days when the sun comes back out again. I noticed you put them all in a bowl, do you need to stirr up the caps every once in a while to get them evenly exposed to the sun or will it turn out fine either way?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: Emir on Tue, 26 May 2020, 11:44:07
(https://i.imgur.com/FJqsBBJ.jpg)

ty!

edit:yes i know i accidentally put two pg dn :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: phinix on Tue, 26 May 2020, 16:08:06
I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

(Attachment Link)

Use peroxide, soak for 4 hours in the sun.
I did it to my OG caps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101253.msg2786753#msg2786753

Looks great, I'll source some peroxide and try it out in a couple of days when the sun comes back out again. I noticed you put them all in a bowl, do you need to stirr up the caps every once in a while to get them evenly exposed to the sun or will it turn out fine either way?

Nah, I didn't stir it at all, just threw them in a bowl, covered with peroxide and left - some caps were up side down and still got cleaned. Tried to turn them all correctly, but air bobbles under them kept turning them back up :)

Make sure you use at least 12% - it should burn your skin on fingers in seconds (skin goes white) - that means its good :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: kamisamamizu on Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:17:52
I tried retrobrighting mine using the sous vide method, but it took too much so in the end I just left the caps below the hot Spanish sun, and it seems to have worked.
I only used 5% peroxide however I don't know because it wasn't that yellowed or because there was a lot of sun.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 27 May 2020, 15:26:59
I filled a zip lock bag with the caps and 3% peroxide and stuck them under a plant light in the cold Michigan winter. Took a few days of checking the color levels but they match the Classic Retro set I have and there's no yellowness. Did three sets that way and they turned out pretty nice.

The heat activating the peroxide is what works best.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: guzzi on Thu, 28 May 2020, 07:31:03
Gave the caps a nice bath in ~12% peroxide for 5 hours in the midday sun yesterday and I couldn't be more happy with the results.
Aside from the shine it is tough to tell the difference between Missing Keys and OG now.

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Before, after:
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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: phinix on Thu, 28 May 2020, 07:55:03
Gave the caps a nice bath in ~12% peroxide for 5 hours in the midday sun yesterday and I couldn't be more happy with the results.
Aside from the shine it is tough to tell the difference between Missing Keys and OG now.

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Before, after:
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Cool, see, told you , best way to clean them up. Years of discoloring gone :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: wholypantalones on Thu, 28 May 2020, 08:43:08
Gave the caps a nice bath in ~12% peroxide for 5 hours in the midday sun yesterday and I couldn't be more happy with the results.
Aside from the shine it is tough to tell the difference between Missing Keys and OG now.

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Before, after:
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Looks great, glad to see you made them match. I know shine is desired but there's always sandblasting to add texture and remove shine.

Here's some examples of caps I've done. https://imgur.com/a/Jf8qyFx
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: mcmaxmcmc on Mon, 01 June 2020, 19:43:36
Mine just arrived today  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/pGzo6pa.jpg)

I was going to mix this set with some of my OG Cherry keycaps.  However, I'm a legend nitpicker, and after a more scrutinized look at the set, I spot more and more issues.

Here's my initial look:
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(https://i.imgur.com/Pba2alt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7sbvmqB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CZEXTWf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ojTk1yr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WLw3JQ1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a6TrST0.jpg)


And here's my analysis:

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(https://i.imgur.com/7sbvmqB.jpg)

A little crud on the spacebar here -- not a big deal, but I'm not sure how hard the crud is on the bar and whether it'd be easily cleanable.  I haven't opened to package yet though, as that could affect the resale value if I so choose to resell this set out of disappointment.

(https://i.imgur.com/Pba2alt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AQktpk1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OmS7Uvn.jpg)

I noticed right away that the bottom row legends are very misaligned.  So bad, in fact, that it looks like the Control legend is centered on the cap, and not left-aligned.  This would've been tolerable, but cheaper keycaps have these types of issues, which really degrades my experience.  By this point, I've started to compare these keycaps to the OG Cherry equivalent.

(https://i.imgur.com/nqqwoVX.jpg)

The Fn key isn't even aligned horizontally.  It is higher than normal. 

(https://i.imgur.com/sSW9gX2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9np7GP3.jpg)

The Shift key legends are also degrading.  Some parts of the icon is bowed, mainly where "the square meets the triangle of the arrow", if that makes any sense.


(https://i.imgur.com/vnt1zXP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dmysojX.jpg)

Some legends are "lanky", stretched vertically.  The Alt key looks to be alright, but the Pg Dn is not quite there.  Pg Up has the same issue, but I didn't take a picture of it.   


(https://i.imgur.com/oQR6hD3.jpg)

And the backslash key looks to be very misaligned too.  The 1u key has thinner legends than the 1.5u one also.


(https://i.imgur.com/wamylce.jpg)

The "e" in the Super keys are a telltale signs of bad legends.

I'm not very into contemporary items like GMK sets, as I mainly work with more vintage items, but with this outcome the set here is quite disappointing for me.  Let me just make it clear that this is not the vendor's fault, nor do I blame them for it.  But, man... I thought I didn't have that high of an expectation.  I did hear that GMK's quality has dropped considerably in newer produced sets, though, and I guess this set is one of its victims.  Quite a shame.  I'd imagine other people have the same issues as I did.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 02 June 2020, 04:10:27
Thanks for your analysis. I am a nitpicker myself and it is really helpful to have this kind of comparison.

This is where I am coming from:
I was actually really afraid how this set would come out given all the issues we had in the past with GMK Sets.
To be quite honest. The issues you described are very minor compared to what happened to other sets in the past and I am really happy with how it all turned out in the end.

I am not saying you are wrong, just want to put everything into perspective given the present environment with GMK being a monopoly in a shortage economy.

Thanks again for your assessment. You did a great job.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: phinix on Tue, 02 June 2020, 04:19:07
To be honest, I like these kind of imperfections! :D
It makes those caps more vintage :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: VXQN on Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:48:28
Will there be extras available? I managed to pick up a set of OG DE Doubleshots after this GB had ended and would love to use them with a HHKB type layout!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:55:12
I'd pick up another set if able.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: whitty on Tue, 02 June 2020, 10:34:37
If anyone is unhappy with their set, Ill happily take it off your hands


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Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: wholypantalones on Tue, 02 June 2020, 16:17:56
I concur on the last two comments.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: Gheyn on Wed, 01 July 2020, 10:47:58
Will there be a round 2?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: icemountainguy on Mon, 30 November 2020, 19:11:07
a man can hope
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: tommyhongg on Thu, 31 December 2020, 13:44:31
I desperately need a re-run :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: Zylkan on Wed, 12 May 2021, 05:42:38
If anyone has spares please let me know. I'm interested in that 65 column (delete, pgup, pgdn, end)
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors / arriving at your doorsteps)
Post by: phinix on Wed, 12 May 2021, 06:56:19
Same here, I just need 1.75u Shift cap