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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 30 March 2020, 09:05:15 »
Hello everyone.
Due to Corona Crisis the confirmed shipping date to vendors has been moved to April 17th.
Stay healthy!
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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 07:05:16 »
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March May.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:02:11 »
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

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Jani
You probably meant May but understood.

Thanks for the update.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:14:05 »
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:14:35 »
Appreciate the update!

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:40:13 »
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.

You'd think so, but GMK Greek Beige Add-on is facing a similar issue.

We ended the GB entry period on November 16, 2019. It's April and we still haven't gotten even close to finishing production.

GMK is overwhelmed, and it has begun to show amidst all this in their delays in responses and production.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:58:24 »
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.
I agree.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 09:20:07 »
Guess i missed the group buying phase.. but since they are still not delivered: can you tell me if any extra sets are being produced to purchase from the vendors (specifically EU)?

Or does anyone not want their order anymore? I'd take 1-2 of these kits. :)

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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 09:46:51 »
Given the current situation and the shear number of sets being crammed into the queue, I'm having trouble believing that it's taken over seven months to ship such a relatively small add on kit.

You'd think so, but GMK Greek Beige Add-on is facing a similar issue.

We ended the GB entry period on November 16, 2019. It's April and we still haven't gotten even close to finishing production.

GMK is overwhelmed, and it has begun to show amidst all this in their delays in responses and production.

I thought I read that they were supposed to be adding machines and help to ramp up production? We've gone from 4 months on fairly large MOQ sets to almost eight plus months. Looks like 8008 took almost eight months to ship from what I can tell. A simple beige add on in stock colors taking this long seems ridiculous.

They almost need to start limiting the number of sets they accept in any given month, or god forbid we stop cramming more rainbow puke weeb sets into the queue.  ;D

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 12:14:06 »
They also respond slowly, yes. Also Coronavirus rampdown has an effect.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 01 May 2020, 21:29:11 »
Here is hoping we get an update next week  ;D

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 05:36:48 »
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March May.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

Best regards,
Jani

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 20:20:32 »
Hi everyone,

guess what: according to GMK update postponed to 7th of March May.
Out of my hands - stay healthy.

Best regards,
Jani



Hello, are we on track with this?

Any updates?

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 11 May 2020, 02:53:50 »
No news yet, but should be shipping this week to vendors. At this point I am a customer like everyone else.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:20:19 »
Icon legends look good on some other sets. I pray the GODS are kind to us.
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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 11 May 2020, 22:39:11 »
Will there be any extras?


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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:29:10 »
Icon legends look good on some other sets. I pray the GODS are kind to us.

yes, that is what I am thinking.

I may turn out as our luck that this set has been delayed so much  because the WOB/BOW Icon Mod drama maybe changed the mindset of GMK production engineers.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (Order submitted to GMK)
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 06:32:28 »
I have received information that GMK has shipped out the set and it has arrived at our European vendor. The set is looking good and does not seem to have the issues that GMK WOB/BOW icond mods had for example.
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1. Just because the sets have arrived does not mean that they will be shipped out immediately, please be patient.
2. Our US and Asian vendor will not received their sets as quickly as the European vendor has.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 06:54:51 »
HALLELUJA

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 08:50:54 »
Nice.

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:53:27 »
Phew, I was scared I would receive ****ty legends again, but now I'm so hyped instead!  ;D :thumb:
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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 14:41:27 »
Hallelujah! Damn it's been a while but I hope I get it asap!

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 16:44:44 »
Oh **** yeah

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Re: [GB] GMK Missing Keys (GMK shipped to vendors)
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 01:33:21 »
Phew, I was scared I would receive ****ty legends again, but now I'm so hyped instead!  ;D :thumb:
it looks like GMK has fixed the issue.
I mean it can only be sth small that went wrong. according to them they have better machines now than cherry  used to have and cherry doubleshots were pretty much flawless compared wo what we have seen by GMK in the recent past.
let's hope for the best so that we can still enjoy great GMK sets in the future! in my opinion there is no keycap which comes close.

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I was finally able to put keycaps on my Cypher with the help of this set.

Symmetrical R5 bottom row.

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I was finally able to put keycaps on my Cypher with the help of this set.

Symmetrical R5 bottom row.

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Beautiful.

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I was finally able to put keycaps on my Cypher with the help of this set.

Symmetrical R5 bottom row.

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Great board! Is it a r2 or r1 cypher, I have mine but it's ansi so I'd feel bad putting my og caps, even if I easily can with missing keys.
Btw, my novatouch is complete! All bottom row caps and the caps lock have been replaced and now are all the same color and feel!

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I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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Soak them in peroxide under a UV light or retrobright them.

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Actually, we found outthat sunlight on its own is enough.
But there must not be a window in between. Sunlight must be direct.

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Actually, we found outthat sunlight on its own is enough.
But there must not be a window in between. Sunlight must be direct.

You can even just use a sous-vide

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=19220

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Yeah, I found out that my caps are a little bit yellowed. Will look into retrobrighting, but finding peroxide with large enough concentrations is going to be a pita.
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I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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Use peroxide, soak for 4 hours in the sun.
I did it to my OG caps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101253.msg2786753#msg2786753
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I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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Use peroxide, soak for 4 hours in the sun.
I did it to my OG caps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101253.msg2786753#msg2786753

Looks great, I'll source some peroxide and try it out in a couple of days when the sun comes back out again. I noticed you put them all in a bowl, do you need to stirr up the caps every once in a while to get them evenly exposed to the sun or will it turn out fine either way?

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ty!

edit:yes i know i accidentally put two pg dn :D

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I got Missing Keys to properly utilize my OG set, but given the yellowing I think I now have to source a new OG set to properly utilize my Missing Keys

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Use peroxide, soak for 4 hours in the sun.
I did it to my OG caps: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101253.msg2786753#msg2786753

Looks great, I'll source some peroxide and try it out in a couple of days when the sun comes back out again. I noticed you put them all in a bowl, do you need to stirr up the caps every once in a while to get them evenly exposed to the sun or will it turn out fine either way?

Nah, I didn't stir it at all, just threw them in a bowl, covered with peroxide and left - some caps were up side down and still got cleaned. Tried to turn them all correctly, but air bobbles under them kept turning them back up :)

Make sure you use at least 12% - it should burn your skin on fingers in seconds (skin goes white) - that means its good :D
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I tried retrobrighting mine using the sous vide method, but it took too much so in the end I just left the caps below the hot Spanish sun, and it seems to have worked.
I only used 5% peroxide however I don't know because it wasn't that yellowed or because there was a lot of sun.

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I filled a zip lock bag with the caps and 3% peroxide and stuck them under a plant light in the cold Michigan winter. Took a few days of checking the color levels but they match the Classic Retro set I have and there's no yellowness. Did three sets that way and they turned out pretty nice.

The heat activating the peroxide is what works best.

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Gave the caps a nice bath in ~12% peroxide for 5 hours in the midday sun yesterday and I couldn't be more happy with the results.
Aside from the shine it is tough to tell the difference between Missing Keys and OG now.

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Gave the caps a nice bath in ~12% peroxide for 5 hours in the midday sun yesterday and I couldn't be more happy with the results.
Aside from the shine it is tough to tell the difference between Missing Keys and OG now.

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Before, after:
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Cool, see, told you , best way to clean them up. Years of discoloring gone :)
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Gave the caps a nice bath in ~12% peroxide for 5 hours in the midday sun yesterday and I couldn't be more happy with the results.
Aside from the shine it is tough to tell the difference between Missing Keys and OG now.

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Before, after:
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Looks great, glad to see you made them match. I know shine is desired but there's always sandblasting to add texture and remove shine.

Here's some examples of caps I've done. https://imgur.com/a/Jf8qyFx

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Mine just arrived today  ;D



I was going to mix this set with some of my OG Cherry keycaps.  However, I'm a legend nitpicker, and after a more scrutinized look at the set, I spot more and more issues.

Here's my initial look:
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And here's my analysis:

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A little crud on the spacebar here -- not a big deal, but I'm not sure how hard the crud is on the bar and whether it'd be easily cleanable.  I haven't opened to package yet though, as that could affect the resale value if I so choose to resell this set out of disappointment.





I noticed right away that the bottom row legends are very misaligned.  So bad, in fact, that it looks like the Control legend is centered on the cap, and not left-aligned.  This would've been tolerable, but cheaper keycaps have these types of issues, which really degrades my experience.  By this point, I've started to compare these keycaps to the OG Cherry equivalent.



The Fn key isn't even aligned horizontally.  It is higher than normal. 




The Shift key legends are also degrading.  Some parts of the icon is bowed, mainly where "the square meets the triangle of the arrow", if that makes any sense.





Some legends are "lanky", stretched vertically.  The Alt key looks to be alright, but the Pg Dn is not quite there.  Pg Up has the same issue, but I didn't take a picture of it.   




And the backslash key looks to be very misaligned too.  The 1u key has thinner legends than the 1.5u one also.




The "e" in the Super keys are a telltale signs of bad legends.

I'm not very into contemporary items like GMK sets, as I mainly work with more vintage items, but with this outcome the set here is quite disappointing for me.  Let me just make it clear that this is not the vendor's fault, nor do I blame them for it.  But, man... I thought I didn't have that high of an expectation.  I did hear that GMK's quality has dropped considerably in newer produced sets, though, and I guess this set is one of its victims.  Quite a shame.  I'd imagine other people have the same issues as I did.

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Thanks for your analysis. I am a nitpicker myself and it is really helpful to have this kind of comparison.

This is where I am coming from:
I was actually really afraid how this set would come out given all the issues we had in the past with GMK Sets.
To be quite honest. The issues you described are very minor compared to what happened to other sets in the past and I am really happy with how it all turned out in the end.

I am not saying you are wrong, just want to put everything into perspective given the present environment with GMK being a monopoly in a shortage economy.

Thanks again for your assessment. You did a great job.


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To be honest, I like these kind of imperfections! :D
It makes those caps more vintage :)
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Will there be extras available? I managed to pick up a set of OG DE Doubleshots after this GB had ended and would love to use them with a HHKB type layout!

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I'd pick up another set if able.

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I concur on the last two comments.