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Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Wed, 30 September 2009, 21:15:13
Just a thread to brag about your rig.... my unicomp on the ball is connected to:

amd phenom II 955 3.2 ghz
thermalright true copper ultra 120mm heatsink w 2x scythe fans (stink'n Heavy)
gigabyte 5dup mobo
8gigs ddr3 1600 Gskill ram
ati 4870 X2
2x 22" samsung 20,000:1 contrast with 2ms responce time
2x 1tb sata hd's as seperate drives.
2x lg lightscribe dvd burners,
rosewill 1100w powersupply,
1.44" floppy,
no fancy lights (i hate neon lights)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Wed, 30 September 2009, 21:27:28
Quote from: kishy;121925
Oh yeah, time for me to bring out the big guns.

On occasion, 5.25" 1.2MB floppy drive

You asked for it, you got it. LOL.
That's only the desktop, which in truth I only use to have an excuse to type on my 3179 keyboard.


5.25?  thats awsome!  i came very close to adding a zip drive a while bak myself.  my first computer build bak in the day actually had an LS120 superdisk... lol. talk about dead formats.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 30 September 2009, 21:56:01
Let's see

Phenom II 940 BE
4GB DDR2 1000
Asus Dark Knight Radeon HD 4870 1GB
EVGA Superclocked 8800GTS 320MB
160 GB SATA
250 GB IDE
2 22" 1680x1050 monitors (just TN, though)
650 Watt Antec Earthwatts
600 Watt UPS



And...My VIA rig
(And yes, it can play Crysis)

Via Nano 1.6GHz
2GB DDR2
S3 Chrome 440 GTX (256MB GDDR3)
160GB 5400RPM Laptop Drive
120 Watt PSU
Title: My folding rig..., not really big..
Post by: chuckading on Wed, 30 September 2009, 22:00:07
Hey guys, only my second post, awesome forum you have here, I'm addicted now..

I have a black/white macbook 13.3" w/ glossy display
2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
800 MHz FSB
4 gb ram, PC2 5300
160 GB Hitachi
Intel GMA X3100
Broken SuperDrive :(

I only upgraded the Ram and swapped half the casing with new parts from a black macbook.  All is connected to my new HHKB Pro 2 :).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: roaduck on Wed, 30 September 2009, 22:14:35
****your big rig specs******

Lovely rigs lads.

I've just got  DELL Vostro 200 mini tower with a bit of extra memory and a discrete GPU.It's connected to an Edge10 4 HDD case used as a JBOD and a 1.5TB and 400GB fanless USB HDD's.It will have to do me for now until I can build another HTPC.

IBM - 102 key UK layout 1391406 keyboard

Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.20GHz chip
Foxconn G-33M clone motherboard
HDD - 160 GB - 7200 RPM
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT - 256 MB
3GB - DDR 667 MHz RAM
DVD-ROM - Pioneer thing that sucks the discs in like a car cd player
DVD-RW   - Pioneer thing with overburn etc
LCD - Edge10 - 24" ws - 1920 x 1200
LCD - Dell       - 19" ws - 1440 x 900
CRT - Mitsubishi - 22" - 2048 x 1536

Speakers - Acoustic Energy Aego M 3.1 with Tannoy SFX centre
Wireless USB 5.1 optical transmitter - Onkyo UWL1 Audio Transport
Headphones - Sennheiser HD-600
Headphone Amplifier / Passive Preamplifier for PC - QED MB45
Switching Box for PC - Tandy audio selector.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Mr.6502 on Wed, 30 September 2009, 22:34:12
My main desktop is nothing special, but I am proud of my main laptop:

Acer Extensa 367D
200MHz Intel Pentium w/MMX
32MB RAM
2MB VRAM
2.1GB enhanced IDE hard drive
Cardboard Screen Visor (with Velcro!)
CD ROM Drive
External Floppy Drive
56K Modem

It got me through senior year of high school, 4 years of college, a year of service to inner city schools, all the while being lugged in crappy backpacks or, even worse, shuffling around loose in rolling bags.

It's a beast.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Wed, 30 September 2009, 22:34:21
Great machines blokes!!!!  but what keyboard are they made for you to use? remember....  we have our computers for our keyboards......
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Hak Foo on Thu, 01 October 2009, 00:16:12
Right now, I'm running a Solidtek 6600 connected to:
Phenom II 940
8GB DDR2-800
Gigabyte MA790X-UD4
HD3650 (512M)
1Tb Samsung F1 + 160G Seagate 7200.10 in external box
Two Samsung 203-series DVD burners
LS-120
5.25" floppy drive
WinTV 1250
$15 Ralink 802.11n card
24" Soyo Topaz S LCD
Hours-of-operation meter
Logitech G5 (not worth the price)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 01 October 2009, 08:31:13
My keyboards are not limited to one specific computer. I use whichever keyboard I feel like with the computer I feel like using.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Thu, 01 October 2009, 13:46:36
Like Ripster, this is familiar. But I'll give it some attention this time round.

If I exclude the server (Which, although is the "big rig", is rarely sat in front of, but it's a Wang 724 attached), then it's an IBM M13 connected to:-


All housed in a Coolermaster Stacker.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zwmalone on Thu, 01 October 2009, 16:49:14
Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz Prescott with HT, LGA775, Zalman CNPS-7700cu
MSI 915PL Neo-V
1GB DDR400 (2x 512MB ECC)
ATI Radeon x700 XT 128MB PCI-e x16, ghetto cooling
2x 17" 1280x1024 CRTs
320GB WD SE16D SATA2, 200GB Seagate Barracuda SATA2
2x LiteOn DVD+RW
500W Rosewill Extreme Edition PSU recapped w/ Nippon Chemicon caps
Linksys WMP54g 802.11g wifi card
Windows XP Pro with BBLean WM

Compaq Presario 705
1GHz AMD Athlon 4
256MB of PC133
16MB S3 Savage TwisterK
20GB ATA HD
DVD-ROM
14" 1024x768 screen
Windows XP Home w/ BBLean WM
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: TWX on Fri, 02 October 2009, 11:35:01
I've got the following:
It dual boots Debian Linux and Windows XP Pro.

Almost all of my equipment is racked, with the exception of my wife's PC, which is sitting between the posts at the bottom of the rack.  She's still attached to her Antec case.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: SCTony on Fri, 02 October 2009, 17:42:37
Last Jan/Feb I put this together to replace my aging Dell. I am so glad to be all standard now, but the Dell did fairly well.

Q9550 2.83 @3.8 stable
Gigabyte EP45-UDP3 m/b
G.SKILL 4GB  DDR2  1066
(2) W.D. Caviar Black 640 GB in Raid 0
(1) Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB
PC Power & Cooling 610W Continuous Power Supply
OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU Cooler with AeroCool XtremeTurbine-Blue Fan
MSI R4830 (OC'd Radeon HD 4830) Video Card (I am not a gamer)
  -all wrapped up in a Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Case and currently sporting a $3 Model F.
 It was a lot of fun to build but I stretched it out over a couple months as I had the Dell to use.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 03 October 2009, 22:19:20
in short


Q6600 at 3.8ghz stable
8800gt overclocked to something different every day
4gb of ballistix memory also trying to find sweet spot (around 900 i think)
custom water cooling, 1/2" based with dtek fuzion and 4x120 worth of rad space
Lian-Li 'Rocketfish' case modded a bit ($48 steal)
WD 640gb (the good one forget the name)
Corsair HX620

my pride and joy but also aging and now sitting at the other side of the world for 10mos now.  new guts when i get home.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: BucklingSpring on Sun, 04 October 2009, 08:41:29
Quote from: williamjoseph;121943
Great machines blokes!!!!  but what keyboard are they made for you to use? remember....  we have our computers for our keyboards......


(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4971&stc=1&d=1254663747)

I love your avatar.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Sun, 04 October 2009, 11:50:35
thanks.  found the pic in google pictures, did a search for destroyed keyboards and found that one instead. chopped it down and added the words HARD CORE.....
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: FunkTrooper on Mon, 05 October 2009, 05:52:19
After reading all the specs on this forum, it makes my rig sound so old dated...


Everything's running at stock speeds, but it still performs well these days. The RAM could be better, but i doubt I'd see any performance boost if I upgraded it, so I've never bothered.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 05 October 2009, 11:32:14
on this forum?  yours, similar to mine, dont seem so bad here...

overclock?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 05 October 2009, 13:58:16
I suspect a few do. I'm fairly sure I have seen you on XS. Mine isn't OC'd at the moment, (Fear of the PSU taking yet another setup out...) but after the next round of upgrades (Probably using an 1156 setup).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Hak Foo on Mon, 05 October 2009, 20:13:57
Quote from: AndrewZorn;122762
in short

Lian-Li 'Rocketfish' case modded a bit ($48 steal)


What did you do to your Rocketfish?  I had one and cut cable-management holes and etched a side panel.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 05 October 2009, 22:20:03
stripped down, no more hard drive cage, some wire management work, triple radiator mount/holes in the top with built in shroud
didnt mean "a bit" as in "a lot, but i am awesome" but really just "a bit"

next will be grommeted holes for wires behind the board and a cpu backplate access
and moving the hard drive into the 5.25 bay so i can remove ALL the 3.5 bays
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 08 October 2009, 17:59:33
This is my current setup:

And a photograph (http://img2.pict.com/4a/9a/7c/1655890/0/zmachinekamer6.jpg) just to tease you. ;)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 08 October 2009, 22:54:50
wish i hadnt shipped mine off already.  every 6key combination i tried worked, but i assumed modifiers were not included.  youre saying that it can pass qzwarx but fail

...

is this a joke?
CTRL+W closes window

...

ok, not in the test, if you start by holding the letters first.
i can get 9 keys using that, 6 letters + CTRL + ALT + SHIFT
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 09 October 2009, 05:17:53
I tried it, and it did register all six keys. Any extra key doesn't register, except for modifiers such as the right hand ALT, Enter or Shift keys. It is limited however at 8 keys.

But that is the standard limit of the usb interface isn't it?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 09 October 2009, 11:26:22
yes
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 09 October 2009, 11:34:44
Quote from: JaccoW;124057
But that is the standard limit of the usb interface isn't it?

For all intents and purposes it is, but it's really the standard HID driver that is the limiting agent.  The USB protocol can certainly handle more than 6 keystrokes of data, and if a manufacturer spent the time to write a custom driver, you could easily have full NKRO via USB.  It's just easier and cheaper to use the standard HID driver.  Member bhtooefr explains it much better and in more detail than I do, but that's the jist of it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 09 October 2009, 12:17:05
i keep hearing that, but feel like it is odd that logitech will write all this stupid software to change DPI and use a screen and macro keys but NOT a new driver to have the only USB keyboard with full NKRO.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 09 October 2009, 12:28:49
note i said "stupid software"... and I have...  thats why it is nice that once you program the G9 mouse, you can not have to reinstall the software next reformat to keep the customization
G15 basically requires the software to do anything more than type

i mean, even the cheapest crap has its own drivers, i just think its amazing that no one cares about the keyboards.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 09 October 2009, 12:43:13
The thing is, is after 6 keys, do you really need anymore?  You only have 5 fingers, and your other hand is usually on your mouse, so is there any real motivation to write a custom driver for a keyboard?  That, and if said keyboard needed a custom driver, it might not work without it, thus preventing you from using to tweak the BIOS or just in a general PnP sense.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 09 October 2009, 12:45:34
Quote from: ripster;124128
Everytime somebody tries a >6key on USB they screw it up. Exhibit A: the Das 3.

True that.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 09 October 2009, 12:48:26
i mean im no professional but i just feel like there would be a clever way to replace the driver so that it "listens to" the keys past #6 being pressed, as the keyboard would be designed to send them all in a format that the standard driver would understand (is this possible?).  no driver, 6 keys.  driver, 20 keys.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 02 November 2009, 15:22:45
Intel E8400 @4.0
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R
4gb mem
ATI 4870 1gb
2x 750gb Samsung SATA
2x 120gb Seagate SATA
160gb WD SATA
160gb Maxtor PATA
4x 120mm fans, 1 of em really high speed
4x 80mm fans, 2 high speed, 1 REALLY high speed
custom made rheobus for high speed fans
Cooler Maser CM 690 case, replacing my old Lian-Li from 2003 or so
2x Dell 2209WA displays
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 03 November 2009, 13:44:31
My main computer has:

Intel D815EEA motherboard with integrated components
512MB of PC133 RAM
10gb IDE hard disk
1 Compaq CD-ROM drive
1 internal ZIP-100 drive
1 generic floppy drive

It also has a Microsoft Serial Mouse and a Lexmark M5-2 keyboard.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 03 November 2009, 14:01:04
ZIP drive. Classic. Those were all the rage in I was in college.  If you had the SCSI model, you were the man.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 03 November 2009, 17:37:43
I am the proud owner of 67 floppy disks and 18 ZIP disks.

I actually still use ZIP disks since they have 100MB of storage on them and my computers can easily write to them. They're great for storing software installations for me.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bigpook on Tue, 03 November 2009, 18:21:58
While I never owned any zip drives, I am happy to say that I have recently chucked all of my 3.5 floppies and a half dozen or so floppy disk drives. It seemed like it was only yesteryear when they were so important to have.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 03 November 2009, 19:17:38
I use floppies more when I am servicing older computers or using my Windows 3.1 machine.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: TWX on Wed, 04 November 2009, 13:04:56
Quote from: microsoft windows;130259
I am the proud owner of 67 floppy disks and 18 ZIP disks.

I actually still use ZIP disks since they have 100MB of storage on them and my computers can easily write to them. They're great for storing software installations for me.


Amateur!  *grin*

I used to buy floppies when they were $20 for 100 disks, with a $20 mail-in rebate.  Probably did this five times.  There are still at least 300 floppies in my desk drawers, a good 30 zip disks, and six or seven Jaz or Jaz2 cartridges.

My old rackmount case, which will probably become a file server some day, still has the SCSI Zip Drive installed in it.  The Jaz2 is sitting in one of the bins.  I figure that needing to read a Zip is much more likely than needing to read a Jaz or Jaz2.  When I transferred my PC to the new case I realized that every one of my USB flash memory cards was larger than any Zip or Jaz2, so I didn't bother to put them in, and since the SCSI CD-burner had long since been supplanted by a SATA DVD burner there was no reason for the SCSI controller either.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 04 November 2009, 15:49:20
How many of those 300 floppies have old software on them?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 04 November 2009, 18:06:53
All this talk of Zip drives got me thinking.

So, a bit of digging in the "old but works, not gonna throw it out, piss the missus off" boxes, and hey presto.

A Wild Jazz Drive appears. With fresh disks too! Cost me an absolute packet when I bought it (about 400 quid IIRC), but to be fair, as a backup solution (Each disk was Duplicated), it never missed a beat.

A link for the youngun's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iomega_Jaz_drive
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Hak Foo on Wed, 04 November 2009, 19:24:18
I have a stack of LS-120 drives.  For some reason, you never see internal LS-120s.  You see external ones, and laptop ones, but not normal IDE ones with a front panel.

On the external ones, you can remove a perfect IDE one from the case, with no front panel, so I have ugly cover plates made from scraps to hold 'em down.

They're nice as 3.5" drives, since many new PCs only take one drive on the controller, so I can have a 3.5" and a 5.25".

I found some scrap shops selling the Caleb UHD-144 drive, which is sort of interesting (144Mb on a 3.5" style disc), but it's not as good: Windows will not map it as A: or B:, and it's not auto-eject like the LS-120.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Wed, 04 November 2009, 20:52:12
my first purchased computer had the zip alternative the "superdisk" or LS-120.   i can admit to purchasing a dead format.   :der:
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Thu, 05 November 2009, 05:31:26
Quote from: ripster;130427
Man, what you got in that pile?   You gonna pull out a box of punch cards next?


According to the Missus "Far too much junk"
While seeking out the Jaz Drive, i found (And booted!) an AMD 386/40 that brought back memories of smoking 486SX's. I still have my (non-working) 5MB seagate drive, and my first IDE drive (still working, 80MB WOOHOO!). The really neat kit is up in the loft (shrinkwrapped ZX80 anyone? No? Shrinkwrapped M$ Windows 1?)


Quote from: ripster;130427
Show Image
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2831963/2/istockphoto_2831963_punch_card.jpg)


Quick, without looking at the printing what does this one say????


Hey! I'm not THAT old... Tape Drives were the thing in my heyday (Spectrum and Commodore)... That, and if you were hardcore on the Spectrum's, ASM for the Z80! I took one look the instruction set for x86/64 a while ago... and quaked at the thought. My childhood must have been boring for me to learn that.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 05 November 2009, 06:07:34
Quote from: InSanCen;130476
According to the Missus "Far too much junk"
While seeking out the Jaz Drive, i found (And booted!) an AMD 386/40 that brought back memories of smoking 486SX's. I still have my (non-working) 5MB seagate drive, and my first IDE drive (still working, 80MB WOOHOO!). The really neat kit is up in the loft (shrinkwrapped ZX80 anyone? No? Shrinkwrapped M$ Windows 1?)

If I hadn't fried it, I would still have a 200MB Conner Hard Drive. I disassembled it, put it back together, and still had all the data on it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 05 November 2009, 08:41:26
Quote from: williamjoseph;130441
my first purchased computer had the zip alternative the "superdisk" or LS-120. i can admit to purchasing a dead format. :der:

I had one of these; I didn't buy it though.  I "salvaged" a used one from the computer store I used to work at.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: TWX on Thu, 05 November 2009, 17:42:42
Quote from: microsoft windows;130404
How many of those 300 floppies have old software on them?

Much of the contents of the floppies was when I was getting Betas of Windows Chicago.  Some of the builds used about 20 disks in DMF format, with just under 1.7MB fitting on one disk.  I also had a beta copy of Microsoft Plus, MS-Office 4.3, and Microsoft Bob.

Bear in mind that USB stood for "Un Supported Bus" and that most of my friends didn't have other mediums, so if we didn't want to pull hard disks and install in other machines to copy stuff or didn't want to dial up we were limited to this.  I first played Quake off of floppies.  I had shareware like mad off floppies.  I had four floppies to boot Debian's network installer.  I had diagnostic tools.

I will need to use a floppy when I update my BIOS on my dual Xeon box to support 3.2GHz processors.

Cheap Ethernet, decent USB support, and cheap flash finally killed off the floppy more than any floppy-replacement disks did.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 06 November 2009, 12:46:20
Somewhere around here (or in one of my storage units), I have Wolfenstein 3D on about 30 floppies and the Oregon Trail on 5.25 diskette

That, and Win 3.1 on floppy, an MSDN windows 95 CD, Microsoft Encarta on CDROM, and a bevy of other useless crap.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Sun, 08 November 2009, 16:52:49
Right, that's it.

I can't beat punch cards, but my inner geek is screaming for me to go search out the 8" Floppies... (Yep younguns, 8" Floppies!). I saw them in a box when searching for the Jaz drive. I have no idea how I got them, or the drive, as they were mainly used in MiniComputers IIRC, but I'll not be throwing them out. Just a bit *too* much Geek history to be trashing.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Sun, 08 November 2009, 16:57:35
Right, that's it.

I can't beat punch cards, but my inner geek is screaming for me to go search out the 8" Floppies... (Yep younguns, 8" Floppies!). I saw them in a box when searching for the Jaz drive. I have no idea how I got them, or the drive, as they were mainly used in older "minicomputers" IIRC, but I'll not be throwing them out. Just a bit *too* much Geek history to be trashing.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bigpook on Sun, 08 November 2009, 17:05:05
Quote from: timw4mail;130482
If I hadn't fried it, I would still have a 200MB Conner Hard Drive. I disassembled it, put it back together, and still had all the data on it.


cool, my very first computer; a 486/33 came with a 170M conner hard drive.  I was told at the time that I would never fill it up, it was too big.
Those were the days.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 08 November 2009, 17:20:25
Quote from: bigpook;131073
cool, my very first computer; a 486/33 came with a 170M conner hard drive.  I was told at the time that I would never fill it up, it was too big.
Those were the days.


When I was a kid with my first computer - a Superboard 2 that read data from cassette tape - I read on the back of the manual that you could buy a 5MB hard disk for it. I thought that's crazy - there isn't enough information on the planet to fill that up! Yes, I was young and naive.

Now these 1TB drives we can get now. They'll never fill up, right? :lol:
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: iMav on Mon, 09 November 2009, 02:39:40
My current laptop "big rig" is a 13.3" MacBook Pro.  With 500GB hdd and 8GB of ram, it fulfills my portable VM needs. (I actually considered an i7 laptop, but decided I actually needed SOME real-world battery life)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: TWX on Mon, 09 November 2009, 11:57:28
Back in high school the district picked two of us from each high school and paid for training for the then-new A+ Certification, and they took us to one particular campus for the classes.  In the room was an old typesetting computer used for Yearbook and Journalism class that was basically a layout and formatting machine.  It had fonts on 8" floppy.  Cool old computet
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Post by: williamjoseph on Wed, 11 November 2009, 13:13:22
Quote from: Rajagra;131075
When I was a kid with my first computer - a Superboard 2 that read data from cassette tape - I read on the back of the manual that you could buy a 5MB hard disk for it. I thought that's crazy - there isn't enough information on the planet to fill that up! Yes, I was young and naive.

Now these 1TB drives we can get now. They'll never fill up, right? :lol:


i have.  nuff said.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 11 November 2009, 16:31:09
I could never fill up a terabyte. I haven't even filled up half of my 10gb hard disk yet!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 11 November 2009, 16:34:45
I'm thinking my next setup will be a 2TB NAS and a couple of IONs.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zwmalone on Wed, 11 November 2009, 16:55:46
WoW, music, and CS2 don't take up very much space of my 520gb...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 11 November 2009, 17:33:02
I'm so far behind you guys...I just installed a 515mb hard disk in one of my computers.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 11 November 2009, 17:35:33
I have an IBM 80MB SCSI drive lying around. It's a 3 1/2" drive, but it's about the size of two or more modern drives stacked on top of eachother.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 11 November 2009, 17:39:55
How small is a new hard disk?
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Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 11 November 2009, 17:43:45
The size has remained pretty constant size the early 1990s - so the same width and same approximate height as a 3.5" FD drive. There is a trend with the new Solid State Drives to use laptop-sized form factors only though.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 11 November 2009, 19:02:13
Oh so they're the same size as mine.

That 80mb drive you were talking about must not be a 3½" then if it's twice the height as a newer hard disk.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 12 November 2009, 03:36:47
3 1/2" is width... You can have different heights within those form factors, example - the double height 5 1/4" floppy drives in the original IBM PC vs the single height 5 1/4" CD Drives.
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 12 November 2009, 09:22:47
Microsoft Windows, I'm suprised you're not sporting Winchester drives in any of your setups.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Grizaptimus on Sat, 05 December 2009, 22:00:37
I am currently running a:

AMD Phenom 9600 @2.3GHz
Gigabyte GA-MA780-SH2
4GB DDR2 800 RAM
73GB WD Raptor
3  WD 640GB Drives
1  WD 250GB Drive
Nvidia GeForce 9800GX2 1GB
Lian Li Full Tower
Corsair 850TX 850W Power Supply
Dell AT101W Keyboard
Logitec MX510 Mouse
Acer AL2216W 22" Widescreen Monitor
2 KRK RP5G2 Studio Monitors (Best Speakers Ever!!)

Currently running Windows XP but soon hope to switch to linux when i finally get an audio interface that will work with the penguin

I may finnaly be able to get back to my Q6600 machine now that my friend has been able to somehow get my old MB running that I had completely given up hope on!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 06 December 2009, 09:55:56
850-watt PSU? You must have a very powerful system to power!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Xuan on Sun, 06 December 2009, 12:17:51
My pc is getting old :p

Opteron 165 Socket 939
DFI Lan Party nForce 3
2GB GSkill DDR
HIS Radeon HD3850 AGP (Yes! AGP still kicking)
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 550W PSU
160GB Maxtor (pre Seagate) and 320GB WD HardDrives
Dell E207WFP
Logitech MX300
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sun, 06 December 2009, 13:07:21
My best computer:

Dell Dimension 4600
2.8ghz P4 CPU
1638mb of DDR
128mb nVidia graphics
40g Maxtor HDD
IBM Model M 1391401
IBM TrackPoint L40SX Trackingball
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 06 December 2009, 13:49:24
1636MB... Do you have a 1GB, 512MB and 128MB?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: HaaTa on Sun, 06 December 2009, 21:00:01
My best (when its all together, some of the HDDs are in Canada atm):
2.4 GHz Q6600 (OCd to 3.2 GHz)
8 GB DDR2 at 1100 MHz
Gigabyte EP35-DS3P
512 MB AMD Radeon 4870
3 x 500 GB RAID 5 (Seagate) (Backup set #1, I have a pair of 1.5 TBs for #2)
3 x 74 GB RAID 0 (WD Raptor 10 000 RPM) - Need to get me some SSDs sometime (for Linux/compiling)
A 2x 5.25 bay 3 x Removable HDD trays
1 x 500 GB (WD) - Windows 7 Crap/Games drive
Cooler Master Cosmos
Some Cheap DVD writer with lightscribe that I've never used
Some Cheap card reader (only use it for SD cards, for my Eee PCs)
Samsung 24" (can't remember the model number) (1920x1200)
BenQ 22" 1920x1080
Logitech G7 mouse
Unicomp Spacesaver
600W power supply OCZ (it actually handles the RAID load fairly well)
Belkin 800VA (or was it 900VA) UPS (I got pissed off when the power failures kept reseting my uptime)

I wish I had something comparable at work, it would make my job so much easier. Stupid 1GB of ram.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Xuan on Sun, 06 December 2009, 21:13:38
I'm fine with my work's computing power, but I still don't get why people don't care about PSU quality.
It's using the forth PSU, all previous three blown up and they keep giving me those crappy cheap ones.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 07 December 2009, 01:28:49
Quote from: Xuan;139601
I'm fine with my work's computing power, but I still don't get why people don't care about PSU quality.
It's using the forth PSU, all previous three blown up and they keep giving me those crappy cheap ones.


This is one of my personal bugbears. Spend several hundred on a PC, and couple it with a ****ty PSU. Granted, I'm not above shaving a bit of cost off of one of my builds, but not where it can add more risk of it going tit's up and taking out the rest of the system. So many times in work I've had to phone someone and tell them that the PSU has gone, and taken out what would otherwise be perfectly serviceable hardware. On Friday it was a E6600 and an AM2 6000. both PSU's were gone, but so were the boards, chips, and in the E6600, the RAM as well.

It's not to say that a Quality PSU will make you invulnerable to this (I lost my E6600 and a P45 board to a FSP Blue Storm curling it's toes not so long ago), but rather much less vulnerable.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 07 December 2009, 02:13:18
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement;139461
My best computer:

Dell




Just kidding! :wink:
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 08 December 2009, 19:17:50
It's the TRUE Microsoft Bob! (By the way, I went on it today!)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zwmalone on Tue, 08 December 2009, 20:37:46
I have a dependable Rosewill RE-501 500w...  even better considering I recapped it with Nippon Chemicon caps.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 December 2009, 08:48:48
Quote from: HaaTa;139595

2.4 GHz Q6600 (OCd to 3.2 GHz)


You know that overclocking the CPU drastically reduces its life span and automatically voids the warantee.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 09 December 2009, 08:54:01
That's why I never have bothered with such things.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 December 2009, 08:59:16
Neither did I. my CPU's are all so slow they won't be fast no matter what.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 December 2009, 09:52:18
Quote from: microsoft windows;140422
You know that overclocking the CPU drastically reduces its life span and automatically voids the warantee.


Thanks Mom.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 09:54:32
You know, that's not always the case, anymore.  AMD released the "Black" series CPUs with the intention to be OCed, IIRC.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 December 2009, 09:59:09
All CPUs have a perfectly safe and stable range, such are the way they're designed. And lifespan? Well, if reducing it from 100 years to 10 is a big issue, then sure, whatever...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 10:01:50
That, and CPUs are so cheap these days, that replacing it wouldn't be too much trouble; not that you would want to spend the extra money.  You're right, you are more than likely going to upgrade before your CPU dies of OCing, anyway.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 09 December 2009, 10:35:09
I am not as interested in the performance of my PC as I am interested in its lifespan.  Being a high school student , and being in these tough economic times, it will be hard to find a job by the time I am 16, so I want my current computers to last as long as possible so I don't need to get new ones.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 10:42:22
What state do you live in?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 09 December 2009, 10:52:26
CT
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 11:00:45
You guys are getting hit pretty hard up there.  While I am not a big fan of the politcs (and to a lesser extent, the people), TX hasn't been impacted nearly as much as other states.  But when you're already near rock bottom, there's not much lower you can go.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 09 December 2009, 11:12:43
Quote from: microsoft windows;140422
You know that overclocking the CPU drastically reduces its life span and automatically voids the warantee.


I take you off Ignore, and you post this crap...

Okay, look up the QX (Intel) and Black Edition (AMD) range. These have unlocked multipliers, for the sole purpose of Overclocking. There is no other logical purpose to having unlocked multipliers.

If you want to get into the "Electro Migration" argument, I wouldn't advise it.

As has been stated, if the useful life of the CPU is now, ooohhh.... 10 years say, instead of 50-100, who cares? I guarantee you I will not be running it in 10 years, and I pity the person who is running it for anything other than Nostalgia or Collectors Value.

FWIW, I am running an AMD 6400 Black Edition now, and I have in the next room, a perfectly functioning AMD 386/40 that was ran at 56MHZ (IIRC, this was a while ago to say the least) for a few years. Crystal swapping was good, if somewhat unpredictable. There is also an XP1700 there as well, that, unless it's been beaten recently, holds the Euro aircooled record for that chip at over 2.8Ghz. Funnily enough, despite running at nearly double it's official rate, and having a rather large amount of volts shoved up it's Vcc pins, it still works perfectly.

Stop posting crap and making blanket statements until you have actually looked at what you are about to comment on. It is NOT automatic to void your warranty, and in terms of useful lifespan of a chip, it won't make much difference unless you send it to silicon heaven.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 December 2009, 11:16:49
Also, it's very hard for them to prove that you have overclocked it, as it's purely motherboard based. It would cost Intel/the retailer more to establish whether or not you overclocked it than it would be to send out a new one.

And InSanCen, welcome to the MS Windows party!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 December 2009, 11:56:14
Quote from: ripster;140515
And what's your address again? I'm sending the truant officer over. Even Connecticut must have laws against this........

You know, this didn't even occur to me.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 December 2009, 12:41:03
I think MS Windows is also 15.

Or at least that's what he said =P
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 December 2009, 12:42:32
Quote from: InSanCen;140507
I take you off Ignore, and you post this crap...

Do I seriously annoy you that much?

And Ripster, sorry to disappoint you, but I'm afraid I'm not a creeper. I prey on old computers instead of little children.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 December 2009, 13:04:05
Quote from: itlnstln;140504
But when you're already near rock bottom, there's not much lower you can go.

That's a great description of CT's government.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 09 December 2009, 16:58:28
Overclocking a device is not guaranteed to decrease the lifespan unless thermal control fails to be improved in tandem.

When I worked for NVIDIA, our testers said an increase of 10°C in continuous operating temperature would halve the remaining lifespan of a device. An increase of 20°C in continuous operating temperature would make the lifespan a quarter of the 'normal' lifespan, etc. Since most Intel CPUs have an operating range of 30-70 or even 30-90°C, you can see what difficulty you'd have in determining "normal" life span of a device.

Granting of warranty returns, at least at retail level, are not really affected by the competent overclocker. It's very hard to detect damage from overclocking (thermal failure) instead of other kinds of gate failure or buffer failure--well, that is unless you're dumb enough to leave the chip pads modded or scorched when you return it. One pretty much has to cap the chip and look inside to determine the cause of failure (which no retailer is able to do).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:21:04
Neither have I. But I have never overclocked a microprocessor either.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:23:04
I haven't had a CPU fail, but I have had a motherboard fail on my best laptop.  It was a HP Pavillion dv6000 and it worked fine for about 3 years then it died.  So my mother gave it to me, and a week later, I got it running again.  6 months later, it died for good.  RIP. And it is quite literally RIP, I have all of the pieces in a box somewhere...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:29:30
Quote from: microsoft windows;140718
But I have never overclocked a microprocessor either.


I love the choice of word "microprocessor", it's almost as if to imply that you have overclocked non-micro processors...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/DEC-VAX-KA820AA-CPU.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:32:22
I think he overclocks macroprocessors.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:33:07
I got with the 90's.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 09 December 2009, 17:37:30
I think once it is 2010, you should get with the millennium, because then you will still be 10 years behind everyone else...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 09 December 2009, 19:09:00
Quote from: ripster;140716
You worked at Nvidia?   Is that Vista driver done yet?

Nah, That's after my time. Director of Software Development tells me the Vista NVIDIA driver is scheduled for release with Win8 or 9.

I was hired there on 9/11, wrote OEM Databooks and Technical Manuals, non-marketing collateral for nForce 1 & 2 controllers, xBox, GeForce 2, 3, 4, and FX, Quadro versions of the same GPUs (I forget the consumer model numbers), and copyedited a few papers published by the engineering crew. Most of my current machines are NVIDIA take homes from 2001-3, and then an nForce4 SLI engineering sample I found at a thrift store. I scored four dozen GeForce2 AGP one day when marketing was dumping their take-with samples. My Linux user group had an orgasm when I donated the box.

Was really cool to have so many machines when I left NVIDIA for VMware. I hosted the TechPubs department computer lab in my office, rackmounting and silencing 14 of my nForce machines on VMware's dime. Those were the days.

This is why I need so many keyboards. KVMs are for weenies who use rubber domes.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 09 December 2009, 19:57:51
Quote from: microsoft windows;140546
Do I seriously annoy you that much?

Yes, and then some. If you are going to post on a Forum that is populated by people that, in the main, post informative or well reasoned information, then try to do so. So far, you have abjectly failed to do this.

Quote from: ricercar;140705
Overclocking a device is not guaranteed to decrease the lifespan unless thermal control fails to be improved in tandem.

When I worked for NVIDIA, our testers said an increase of 10°C in continuous operating temperature would halve the remaining lifespan of a device. An increase of 20°C in continuous operating temperature would make the lifespan a quarter of the 'normal' lifespan, etc. Since most Intel CPUs have an operating range of 30-70 or even 30-90°C, you can see what difficulty you'd have in determining "normal" life span of a device.

Granting of warranty returns, at least at retail level, are not really affected by the competent overclocker. It's very hard to detect damage from overclocking (thermal failure) instead of other kinds of gate failure or buffer failure--well, that is unless you're dumb enough to leave the chip pads modded or scorched when you return it. One pretty much has to cap the chip and look inside to determine the cause of failure (which no retailer is able to do).

I'm quoting the whole block, because it is perfectly correct. Read this, try to understand it, and you may see why I take such objection to your ill-informed posts.

Overclockers with even a single braincell will have cooling that will blow your mind (and the rest of the kit will make your wallet cry for mummy). Anything from Air cooling with insane CFM (My preferred route) to Phasechange cooling at well under -100c. We know heat kills chips, and trust me, we go to great lengths to avoid it.

After a buying spree to find a great cooler for that aforementioned XP1700, I gave away nearly 20 top-end air coolers, having bought and tested in many configurations every single one of them. The difference from worst to best purchase was in the order of 10c under a very very heavy load. only the best will do when you are going for record. Kind of like the inhabitents of this forum, and our tastes in keyboards.

Quote from: microsoft windows;140718
Neither have I. But I have never overclocked a microprocessor either.

Try it. With your kit, it'll either make a huge difference, or I'll see the fireball from here in the UK. Personally, I think that watching the latter would be more fun.

@Ricercar

I'll agree with your sentiments on KVM's. One Keyboard and Rodent per box. I actually tried giving away a fully functioning USB KVM here, but it seems most share your feelings as well.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: HaaTa on Wed, 09 December 2009, 20:02:52
My first Q6600 died after about a year. I overclocked it too (though I'm pretty sure that's not what killed it). Sent it back to Intel, got a new one.

Currently I'm too cheap for a case, so it probably stays relatively cool (touching the heatsink is no problem, the 4870 on the other hand...).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zwmalone on Wed, 09 December 2009, 20:03:09
My P4 goes to 3.8GHz easy while still remaining under 40C...  I <3 Zalman coolers
all copper coolers are where it's at!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: mattgmann on Wed, 09 December 2009, 22:13:34
Hello,

Found your wonderful forum while searching for info on new keyboards.  Looks like my kind of place.

My current "big rig"
i7 920 @4.5ghz
2x 4870s
6gb of some crappy ocz ddr3 that won't overclock
cpu and video cards are water cooled on separate loops.


My current project however is a new HTPC built into this old radio cabinet.
(http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/mattgmann2/IMGP0824.jpg)

gear going in it includes a q6600 on a biostar p45 board, 4TB total storage, a hauppauge 2250 tuner and hopefully a low end ati 5xxx card will be out by time the project is done (because they can output all of the audio formats I want natively)

I'm completely replacing the internal face of the radio so I can restore it in the future.  But for the meantime, there'll be a custom brass faceplate covering an antec veris lcd display and blu-ray drive.  Lofty goals, but I've ordered most of the remaining parts and hope to dig into it after christmas.

Anyway, thanks for having a cool forum; I appreciate all of the great info I've already picked up.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 09 December 2009, 23:31:49
You can tell he's new to the forum, because he posts on topic.
:roll:

Welcome. nice rig. Reminds me of the Victrola case I used to house my stereo as an undergrad ... way back in the dark ages when a phonograph was part of nearly every audio rig.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: mattgmann on Fri, 11 December 2009, 01:03:29
Thanks for the kind welcome.  Sorry for the elaborate intro.  I didn't mean to brag about the "big rig", I just happened upon an exceptional cpu with my last purchase.  My real "passion"  is in creative "modding".  (and quotation marks)

If it's of interest, I'll post the build of the vintage radio build as it goes.  I actually had second thoughts about the build, as I found out that the grebe radio I have is quite rare.  Though it turns out that "rare" and "valuable" are mutually exclusive terms.  So, to the dismay of the radio collecting community, this one will be recycled.  I am doing it in a way, however, that it can be restored in the future if it ever does become valuable.

As for input devices, I'm pretty much a virgin to quality wares.  I've been a project of logitech for too long, and it wasn't until I recently used a decent keyboard that I realized that anything better even existed.

So, I'm done typing for now.  The beers are kicking in, and I think I'll watch a re episodes of Always Sunny and pass out.

later
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Fri, 11 December 2009, 05:06:39
ontopicness is indeed nice.  i currently have my 3.2ghz amd phenom II oc'd to 3.5.  its not extravagent but that is about as comfortable as i feel for now. i have had it as far as 3.9 before it blue screens or freezes.  i can also agree with the monicer that bigger is better for cooling.  my cooler is this: Linky (http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/cpu/true-copper/product_cpu_cooler_t_copper.html), it is crazy heavy, my tower is laying on its side so there is not lateral force on my board.  mated it to two of these: Linky (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185060). but i am also glad to see thay my thread is still kick'n.  BTW, my unicomp "on the ball" is still great.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 11 December 2009, 06:20:45
You have a copper TRU-120 and you're only bringing the thing up to 3.5GHz? I have a much cheaper Zalman cooler and it can handle 3.6GHz pretty well in a compact case.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: iMav on Sat, 26 December 2009, 22:46:26
Quote from: iMav;131147
My current laptop "big rig" is a 13.3" MacBook Pro.  With 500GB hdd and 8GB of ram, it fulfills my portable VM needs. (I actually considered an i7 laptop, but decided I actually needed SOME real-world battery life)
I actually upgraded my MBP.  Boot drive is now a 640GB hdd and I pulled the Superdrive and replaced it with a 500GB hdd.  Love the ton of storage and I have a small, portable dvd burner powered by USB that I use when on the go (and need to read or burn a disc).

I span my desktop to a 23" Samsung LCD with 2048x1152 res.  FYI, this does NOT require dual-link DVI.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: datamonger128 on Thu, 31 December 2009, 13:02:03
My desktop isn't really a big rig so to speak, just a CTO HP Pavilion that I changed a couple of things on.  More complete specs are in my signature, but I swapped the GeForce 9300 GE for an 8500 GT, took out the modem that was in there, and installed a Buffalo wireless card.  I may be upgrading to a better processor some time soon as well as upgrading my RAM and changing video cards again.  I was looking at one of the high-end Radeon HD cards.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 31 December 2009, 15:33:11
those cases are pretty nice ripster. do the wheels come off?
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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 31 December 2009, 15:54:16
Quote from: bigpook;146864
those cases are pretty nice ripster. do the wheels come off?

The wheels already have come off on my PC.  Oh wait...
 
I really need to upgrade.  I will be getting a fairly new laptop from my mom, but it's getting setup as a permanent media streamer.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 31 December 2009, 15:59:02
Here's my nice Micron Clientpro CN. It is a very good, expandable computer with 6 PCI slots and a very good case. All the cards are screwed in securely and it runs nice and cool with its 1.4Ghz Pentium 3.
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6876&stc=1&d=1262296461)
The Pentium 3's are rugged and reliable. I've never had one fail. Ever.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 31 December 2009, 16:00:00
The wheels have definitely come off that PC.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 31 December 2009, 16:15:13
What wheels? There were never any wheels, even for scrolling! But if you look carefully, maybe you'll spot the pull-starter in the back...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 31 December 2009, 16:25:40
Quote from: microsoft windows;146873
What wheels? There were never any wheels, even for scrolling! But if you look carefully, maybe you'll spot the pull-starter in the back...

 
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/wheels+fall+off.html
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 31 December 2009, 16:47:48
OK, I know my jokes are terrible.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Thu, 31 December 2009, 18:00:59
Quote from: microsoft windows;146869
The Pentium 3's are rugged and reliable. I've never had one fail. Ever.


Word. I've forgotten to replace the heat sink on a few CPUs before power up. The AMDs all explode like a gunshot, but the PIIIs just blink and keep on working slowly.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 31 December 2009, 18:05:17
no kidding? I never tried that, even for fun. Does the CPU heat up that fast?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 31 December 2009, 18:06:16
Quote from: ripster;146865
Yep.  They also lock.


thats a nice touch. They look to be pretty roomy on the inside too. That's a plus.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 31 December 2009, 18:44:26
Quote from: ricercar;146898
Word. I've forgotten to replace the heat sink on a few CPUs before power up. The AMDs all explode like a gunshot, but the PIIIs just blink and keep on working slowly.


I saw that video of the Athlon (XP I think) catching fire, but once I was cleaning up a machine in college with a 1GHz Athlon (One of the original Athlons, not the XP ones) when I noticed that the portion of the fan with the blades had become detached from the motor, and consequently didn't spin. When we examined it, we had figured that it must have been like that for quite some time. Temps were quite high when we started it, but it still ran along. Unless it came loose when it was moved (and I wasn't exactly throwing it around), the CPU was running 24/7 without a fan for possibly years.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Thu, 31 December 2009, 18:53:09
There's a HUGE difference between a CPU with fanless aluminum and a chip with no aluminum. No Athlon will run even momentarily without a heat sink, but a PIII can do it without permanent damage.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 31 December 2009, 19:24:43
Update: Soon I will have a "new" best computer.  I am buying a Dell Dimension 8400 from someone for $50, 3Ghz P4, 80Gb hard disk, 512MB RAM, 128MB graphics.  I am going to upgrade it to 2-2.5g RAM and I will possibly run a dual boot Mac OS X 10.5 and Windows 7 if I can figure out how to dual boot them together.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 31 December 2009, 19:34:53
Quote from: ricercar;146923
There's a HUGE difference between a CPU with fanless aluminum and a chip with no aluminum. No Athlon will run even momentarily without a heat sink, but a PIII can do it without permanent damage.


Aye. I once ran a Celeron without a heatsink for a few seconds by mistake. This was followed by the even bigger mistake of touching the chip 10 seconds later... Took about two weeks for those blisters to go away...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: NOMiS on Thu, 31 December 2009, 20:42:38
System Specs
CPU maker: intel
CPU: E8600 @ 4GHz *Lapped*
Motherboard: EVGA NF680I SLI
Bios: P33
GPU maker: nvidia
Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 SC SLI
Memory: Corsair XMS2 Dominator 2X1GB
Hard Drive: Spinpoint F1 1TB
Optical Drive: LG DVD writer
Power Supply: Antec Truepower Quattro 850W
Display: BenQ V2400W 24"
Case: CM Stacker 832
Headphones: Astro A40
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate
Cooling
CPU: Swiftech Apogee GTZ
Graphics Card (GPU): D-Tek FuZion GFX 2
Case: 4x Noctua NF-S12
Other: Feser 360 rad 3x NF-P12

Some pics :)
(http://teamvga.com/nvidialog/33.jpg)

(http://teamvga.com/nvidialog/32.jpg)

(http://teamvga.com/nvidialog/19.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: HaaTa on Fri, 01 January 2010, 04:21:13
Quote from: HaaTa;139595
My best (when its all together, some of the HDDs are in Canada atm):
2.4 GHz Q6600 (OCd to 3.2 GHz)
8 GB DDR2 at 1100 MHz
Gigabyte EP35-DS3P
512 MB AMD Radeon 4870
3 x 500 GB RAID 5 (Seagate) (Backup set #1, I have a pair of 1.5 TBs for #2)
3 x 74 GB RAID 0 (WD Raptor 10 000 RPM) - Need to get me some SSDs sometime (for Linux/compiling)
A 2x 5.25 bay 3 x Removable HDD trays
1 x 500 GB (WD) - Windows 7 Crap/Games drive
Cooler Master Cosmos
Some Cheap DVD writer with lightscribe that I've never used
Some Cheap card reader (only use it for SD cards, for my Eee PCs)
Samsung 24" (can't remember the model number) (1920x1200)
BenQ 22" 1920x1080
Logitech G7 mouse
Unicomp Spacesaver
600W power supply OCZ (it actually handles the RAID load fairly well)
Belkin 800VA (or was it 900VA) UPS (I got pissed off when the power failures kept reseting my uptime)

I wish I had something comparable at work, it would make my job so much easier. Stupid 1GB of ram.


In its current form in Japan. Carried it with me in my luggage (I seriously thought they were going to stop me at customs for having 5 hard drives).

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6WOoTO_7VuQ/Sz3KORlI7YI/AAAAAAAAAUo/cANT2yr6qiM/s800/%2Fsdcard%2Fdcim%2Fcamera%2F2010-01-01%2019.00.31.jpg)

Normally I'd have 3 of the hard drives in a rack, but the power supply is too cheap to handle 3 raptors in RAID 0 on two rails.

And yes, the motherboard is sitting on instant curry boxes.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 01 January 2010, 08:23:09
Quote from: ripster;146910
I posted the pics to show how roomy they are.  For a while there the combo of big PSUs and graphics cards were messing up a lot of people's builds.  As long as it fits under the desk the length isn't a problem.


The case for my micron is quite roomy as well. There's plenty of space in there.
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 01 January 2010, 13:46:05
Update2:  I got that Dell Dimension 8400 today, and was pleasantly suprised by it. Specs:

4g RAM, too much, had to take one gig out.
150G hard disk, gonna partition it and dual boot Windows 7/Mac OS X 10.5
ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO 256mb graphics
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Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 01 January 2010, 14:49:23
Out of curiosity, how many sticks of RAM were there to begin with? 4?
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 11 January 2010, 19:18:53
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but yes, there was 4 1G sticks of Kingston DM8400 in there, and it kept on causing a bluescreen in Windows XP when I got it.  I removed one stick and it stopped the blue screen.  So I just wiped the drive and installed Win7 on it, and put Mac OS X 10.5.6 on a 20g IDE drive.  I will have to look into it and see if this computer can handle a 64 bit OS.  I heard somewhere that it might...
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Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 11 January 2010, 19:24:27
Interesting. I've encountered a few motherboards that won't work with only three sticks - it has to be 1, 2 or 4.

And 32-bit OSes shouldn't crash if you give them more than 3GB of RAM, they should just tell you that they only have 3.2GB or thereabouts. Try 4GB with Windows 7. If it can't hack it, it may be a motherboard issue.

Incidentally, if memory serves me correct, the 8400 came out long before Intel started making 64-bit Pentium 4s. You could try and find one, but I could almost guarantee you that you get a much better CPU and probably a matching motherboard for the same price.
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Post by: williamjoseph on Tue, 12 January 2010, 15:34:33
those are some great pics of water cooling.  i wasnt gutsy enough to try that, my luck would be to have a leek and all would be lost.  

i also love the Frankenstein pc.  i once built a comter with all the componets zip-tied to plywood due to the guy wanting something unusual.  he hung it on his wall in his bedroom.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 13 January 2010, 17:44:06
I use the trusty old fan cooling that has worked for my computer for 10 years now (Yes, it's my computer's birthday!). It's noisy and has sounded like it's on the verge of giving up the ghost for a few years, but it works.
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 27 January 2010, 19:08:02
I have a new "big rig" laptop.  its an old Dell Latitude D600.  Runs great.  Even better than my old HP dv6000.  The specs aren't as good, but it runs alot better.

I got it from MS Windows, traded an old Dell PIII tower for it.
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Post by: ricercar on Thu, 28 January 2010, 00:13:10
I used a Dell Lattitude 610 for 2 years professionally. While I despise Michael Dell's politics and personality, I had nothing bad to say about the 610. That was the second most stable machine I've ever used.
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Post by: HaaTa on Thu, 28 January 2010, 01:24:02
Quote from: ricercar;154331
That was the second most stable machine I've ever used.


Now, I'm curious, what was the most stable machine.

(I end up crashing everything I touch, if I'm left long enough with it. So I just remember the really unstable ones).
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Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 28 January 2010, 03:30:19
Quote from: HaaTa;146992
Normally I'd have 3 of the hard drives in a rack, but the power supply is too cheap to handle 3 raptors in RAID 0 on two rails.


What sort do you have? It looks like a Corsair, which are usually quite good.
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Post by: kriminal on Thu, 28 January 2010, 06:43:49
System Specs
CPU maker: intel
CPU: Q9550 stock
Motherboard: EVGA 780I SLI
Bios: P06
GPU maker: nvidia
Graphics Card: EVGA GTX285
Graphics Card: 8800 gt {for physics}
Memory: Crucial ballistix 8 gb timings 4.4.4.12
Hard Drive: WD caviar black F1 1TB
Hard Drive: seagate 1.5TB
Optical Drive: LG DVD writer
Power Supply: ABS Tagan BZ 800watt
Display: Hanns G 22"  1600 * 1080
Case: lightly modded Antec 900
Headphones: Generic head phones "cant remember brand"
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Cooling: Zalman cnps 9700nt
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 28 January 2010, 07:00:34
Quote from: ricercar;154331
I used a Dell Lattitude 610 for 2 years professionally. While I despise Michael Dell's politics and personality, I had nothing bad to say about the 610. That was the second most stable machine I've ever used.

I have a D620, and while the specs are pretty weaksauce, I haven't had a single problem with it.
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Post by: HaaTa on Thu, 28 January 2010, 08:17:05
Quote from: ch_123;154339
What sort do you have? It looks like a Corsair, which are usually quite good.


Yeah, its definitely not a Corsair. The company is called Keian (Japanese). Its a 550W power supply.

It can handle the drives, its just that there isn't enough power on two rails to handle raptors.

I got a miss-write a few months ago because of a power surge, lost everything. I guess that's why the recommendation for raids is to have each drive on it's own rail :P.
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Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 29 January 2010, 13:25:43
You should look into getting a surge protector. Seriously. Power surges can do serious damage to appliances.
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Post by: bigpook on Fri, 29 January 2010, 13:28:55
and a UPS. You are asking to get hosed if you plug your computer straight into the outlet.
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Post by: HaaTa on Fri, 29 January 2010, 15:14:18
Yeah, I have a UPS in Canada (3 of them...). Actually, I've noticed very few if any power surges while in Japan. I didn't even get a power outage during the typhoon that passed through in July (it was bad enough that I got the day off work).
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Post by: clickclack on Tue, 09 February 2010, 04:05:06
Finally I can post in this thread... or understand it for that matter =P

I just built my first computer, and it was very enjoyable!!! Thanks to everyone who in part helped convince me to do so =)

I was going to make my own case but I soon realized that I am doing this becasue I desperately need a new computer NOW!!! So my creative side bit the dust on this one, haaha, maybe next time?

-Cooler Master "Storm Scout" case
-Intel core i7 860 2.8ghz (with Zalman CNPS 9900a led cpu fan)
-and lets geek it up with some Arctic Silver 5 baby!!!!
-Windows 7, 64bit home edition
-EVGA P55 LE mobo
-EVGA 9800GT 1gb vid card
-G. SKILL 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 1600 memory
-Wester Digital Caviar Black 500GB hd
-a bunch of older external hard drives 300GB, 500GB, 1TB...
-LiteOn 24x cd/dvd player (made a combo cheaper)
-Corsair VX450W psu

Monitors-
Cintiq 21UX (1600x1200, 4:3, IPS)
Dell U2410 (1920x1200, 16:10, IPS)
Keyboards-
Umm.... lets just not go there ok?  =P

I love newegg now, I had never even heard of them before building this computer!

I hope to meet and exceed my old workflow very soon. I am rediculously excited about it! Yet I am typing this on a borrowed laptop at the moment! HAAHAAA XD go figure!

Those red case fans and the copper Zalman with blue led is uber neato!
The temps are good too! My board is reading cpu temps of 24/25c at idle and 27-30 when working. I have seen it hit 34c a couple of times, but seems rare. I am usually pegged at 28c.

I should show some pics of it, I think we have a thread for that too =)
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Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 09 February 2010, 07:31:56
Looks good. :clap2:
I believe most people post pics here, I know I did. :rolleyes:
Otherwise, there is this thread (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=3915)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Tue, 09 February 2010, 19:05:36
Quote from: clickclack;157204
Cintiq 21UX (1600x1200, 4:3, IPS)


Droolworthy.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: datamonger128 on Mon, 15 February 2010, 23:49:46
Ok now.  I've sold my old HP CTO system and have a self-built system instead.

-Random Antec case
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0GHz
-Stock AMD heatsink/fan applied with Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound
-Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
-Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 (rev 1.0)
-MSI nVidia GeForce 8500 GT 256MB
-2GB generic HP OEM DDR2-800 Dual Channel RAM
-250GB Western Digital 7200RPM HDD (SATA)
-20GB Seagate 7200RPM HDD (IDE)
-8GB Western Digital HDD (unknown RPM) (IDE)
-Pioneer DVD-RW
-Iomega ZIP100 (IDE)
-Coolmax 600W PSU

Audio
-2.1 Cambridge SoundWorks
-Built-in TV speakers
-Sennheiser HD-201

Monitors
-Vizio VA26LHDTV10T 26" TV (VGA resolution 1360 x 768)
-Ölens SVGA LCD Projector (scaled resolution 1024 x 768) (currently disconnected while I find somewhere to put my subwoofer so the projector can go atop my desk)
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Post by: zwmalone on Fri, 19 February 2010, 19:09:02
Woot, finally got a system I can call my own again.  After the death of my desktop, Gemini, to old age, I've finally replaced her.

Toshiba Sattelite L455D-S5976
AMD Sempron Sl-42
2GB DDR2 800
250gb 7200RPM HD
ATI Radeon HD 3100 256mb
15.6" 1366x768 LCD
Windows 7 Home Premium

good enough to play WoW, good enough for me.
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Post by: Manyak on Fri, 19 February 2010, 21:56:09
- Core i7 920
- EVGA E760 Classified
- 12GB DDR3-2000
- 8800GTS 640MB (upgrading this soon, just waiting for Fermi to either be awesome or to drop ATI's prices)
- Asus Xonar D2X
- Broadcomm 5708 Network Card
- LSI 9260-8i RAID card
- 5x Intel G2 SSDs
- 320GB Scorpio Black
- DVD-RW
- BluRay
- 512MB DOM (plugs straight into the IDE port, contains the bootloader and a few tools)
- Corsair 1000HX PSU


I just took it out of a Corsair Obsidian 800D because it can't fit my cooling system no matter how much I try. I'm putting it all into a MountainMods Extended Acension soon.
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Post by: datamonger128 on Sat, 20 February 2010, 12:08:27
Quote from: zwmalone;159520

Toshiba Sattelite L455D-S5976


Well if we are going to be putting notebook specs on here, then I might as well do the same.

-Gateway NV5378u
-AMD Athlon II X2 M300 2.0GHz
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
-ATi Radeon HD 4200 (256MB Dedicated)
-4GB DDR2-800
-500GB Western Digital HDD (5400RPM)
-DVD-RW DL
-15.6" Glossy LED Backlit Display

-PowerBook G4 15" (Aluminum)
-PowerPC G4 1.33GHz
-Mac OS X "Tiger" (10.4.11)
-ATi Radeon 9700 (64MB)
-1GB DDR-333
-250GB Western Digital HDD (5400RPM) (ATA-100)
-DVD/CD-RW Combo
-15.2" Matte LCD with Ambient Light Sensor
-Backlit Keyboard with Ambient Light Sensor
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Sat, 20 February 2010, 12:22:13
Laptops...why not?

Panasonic (Toughbook) CF-25
Pentium MMX 166MHz
32MB integrated RAM
1GB Toshiba hard drive
Some sort of 3D accelerated graphics
Win98SE
Currently keyboardless because I'm an idiot.
Price I paid: free.

My laptop:
Dell Inspiron 630m
Pentium M 740, 1.7GHz
2GB DDR2-667
80GB 7200RPM Hitachi hard drive
Intel integrated graphics (915)
8x DVD-RW/CD-RW drive
14.1" WXGA matte LCD
9 cell battery, was getting +5hrs of life when new, now down to about 3
Price I paid: $280 in February 2008.

Mom's (first ever) computer:
Dell Inspiron 630m (not the same unit as above, I bought her another of the same)
Pentium M 740 1.7GHz
1GB DDR2-533
80GB WD Scorpio Blue 5400RPM hard drive
Intel integrated graphics (915)
DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive
14.1" WXGA matte LCD
6 cell battery runs between 1 and 2 hours
Price I paid: $120 in the past month.

Everex Tempo LX
286, I think 12MHz
Maybe 2MB of RAM
No hard drive presently, have a 500MB lined up for it though
Out of commission on account of screen backlight not working

I get the feeling I've left one out...

The Dell Latitude CSx I mentioned in a recent post still isn't "mine", the guy I was working on it for said he doesn't want it but I can't have it, and he doesn't want to come pick it up...kinda irritating.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Sat, 20 February 2010, 13:16:55
Hitachi Traveler
and the best parts:

Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: datamonger128 on Sat, 20 February 2010, 16:02:41
Ok.  So now we're posting our parent's specs?  I'd put the specs of my mom's laptop up here, but she's in Pennsylvania right now doing Army stuff.  All I can say is that it has 2GB RAM, a Pentium Dual-Core processor, and Windows Vista.  That's pretty much all I know about it.
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Post by: kishy on Sat, 20 February 2010, 16:22:33
Quote from: datamonger128;159690
Ok.  So now we're posting our parent's specs?  I'd put the specs of my mom's laptop up here, but she's in Pennsylvania right now doing Army stuff.  All I can say is that it has 2GB RAM, a Pentium Dual-Core processor, and Windows Vista.  That's pretty much all I know about it.


Well...since I'm 20 and living at home, and I bought it, and she doesn't even know how to turn it on yet...it might as well be mine for the time being.
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Post by: zwmalone on Sat, 20 February 2010, 17:55:56
My mom's got a [decent] desktop...

1.5GB DDR400 ECC
eVGA nForce 430 MoBo
Sempron 1,8ghz @ 2.4ghz
3x 320gb HDs
GeForce 6100 integrated 128mb
Windows Server 2k3 (essentially XP x64)
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Post by: Xede on Mon, 22 February 2010, 08:20:51
Made this system in december after using an old Dell XPS for 8 years.

i7 920 @ 4.0 ghz
G.Skill Trident 6 GB DDR3 2000 Mhz
Sapphire Radeon HD 5970
Asus Rampage II Extreme
COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro 1000 Watt
Intel X25-M MLC 80 GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM
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Post by: firestorm on Mon, 22 February 2010, 08:37:56
Since I don't play games anymore, my home computers are pretty weak.

Main:
Intel P4 3.4Ghz
1GB DDR 400Mhz (This hurts me more than anything)
Asus something or other motherboard
ATI Radeon 9250 (This hurts too, but mostly because it's having trouble with 1920x1080 over DVI)
160GB HDD
250GB HDD
Sony DVD+/-RW Drive (Junk... won't read CDs anymore)
Thermaltake PSU

This was actually the first system I didn't build myself... picked it up from a fellow car nut for 2 years ago for $300, with Windows XP Pro.  It's fine for everything, except my photo editing.

I also have this for a "Slimserver" music server (Slimdevices/Logitech Squeezebox):
PII 733Mhz
512MB RAM
250GB HDD
Asus CUSL2 motherboard

Built that for $20, using scrap parts from the basement.  Needed a new proc though, then traded that motherboard and proc for the above.

We also have a Lenovo Ideapad of some sort.  Nothing special - Dual core Intel, 2GB of RAM, Vista *shudders*.  We bought it because it was the one notebook that had a keyboard that didn't completely suck.
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Post by: chase on Tue, 23 February 2010, 00:18:53
i7 920 Oc'd 4.0ghz stable
6gb 1600mhz ddr3
2 1 TB Samsung F3 Raid 0
Gtx 260 Core 216, soon to be x2
all in Antec p-180

White Macbook
2.16ghz
2gb ddr2 667mhz
120gb horrible 5400rpm harddrive
Worst Video Card to ever be released in a 1400 dollar laptop (gma 950)
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Post by: trievalot on Tue, 23 February 2010, 04:16:39
IBM T43
ftw
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Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 24 February 2010, 17:01:11
My Gateway2000 is truly a big rig.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Wed, 24 February 2010, 17:41:33
Big Rigs (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigRigsOverTheRoadRacing).

I have the game, in case anyone wants to experiment with how bad it is.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 02 March 2010, 16:25:08
Well, InSanCen got his Quad today. X4 620. It overclocks rather well too ;-P 4GB of Corasir 1066 on a GA-M57SLI-S4 makes it fairly tasty for what is a relativly old rig. It's all housed in my beloved STC-T01 (hooooge case) and H20'd. Sad thing is the cores are already maxed out. *sigh* Running Linux of course (Win7 RC has now finished, and I am not shelling out what they are asking for it, so back to *nix only), Ubuntu, Gentoo and anything else that grabs my fancy (CentOS at the moment).

On a "not mine, but hell, I have to" note, i am speccing out a Client's new Renderfarm. 960 (Nine Hundred and Sixty), 12 core (Yes, twelve) processors. 4P config, sitting in 64U racks. I near shat myself when I got a curious email about them. AMD has some tasty new server technology about to drop for anyone interested in truly Big Rig's. I am wondering if in the near future (Comission from that build is going to be tasty), if I can justify getting myself a 2P config, just for ****s and giggles. As mentioned, my cores are maxed out (3D rendering), and I need more power. 24 cores with 20MB cache (12 per socket, 10 Usable) should tick those boxes rather emphatically. Not released yet, but sources have it the numbers are very favourable. These sources are always right too :-).
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Post by: ricercar on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:03:09
> GA-M57SLI-S4

Tell me your experience with Gigabyte motherboards (or any other product). I've got a bad connotation for the company and I don't know where it came from.
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Post by: kishy on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:08:14
I'll tell you my experience with Gigabyte motherboards (motherboard).

GA-586VX
Socket 7.

Excellent board, worked great until I sold it a couple months ago, still soldiering on somewhere in California now.

Though...likely not what you wanted.
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Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:11:25
I've had a few Gigabyte motherboards and they served me well. Unlike some ASUS ones where the ethernet kept dying...
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Post by: HaaTa on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:21:36
My GA-EP35-DS3P is probably the most stable board I've ever owned.

I've had good and very bad luck with various ASUS boards (intermittent problems like refusing to boot for a couple of weeks at a time, and I had zero cash and time...). I've also worked directly with ASUS company before, not fun.
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Post by: ricercar on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:39:25
/me nods at the last few posts. Thanks.

My home theatre machine needs a new OS. Windows 7 RC has started to reboot every 2 hours. I wonder if I'll have time before the kids notice. It'll probably reboot in the middle of one of their DVDs tonight, and then I'll have screaming AND a bum machine...
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Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:41:59
Quote from: ricercar;161553
> GA-M57SLI-S4

Tell me your experience with Gigabyte motherboards (or any other product). I've got a bad connotation for the company and I don't know where it came from.

If you buy the mid>high end boards, then generally good.

I also have a 965P-DS3 for S775. Very good, one of the best overclocking boards using that chipset.

Gigabyte used to be very Plain Jane. Dependable, but nothing to shout about. They have moved into the Enthusiast sector in recent years, and demands are a hell of a lot higher. We're willing to pay for it, but by god it had better be good.

As for other products, I used to own the I-Ram (DDR Dimm's as a Hard drive), and by god it was quick, but ultimately, nothing more than a toy. It got sold. Solid as a rock though, if you remembered it was only powered for 4ish hours if you cut all mains power. Then it forgot everything (Cue screams of "OMG! It lost my data!")
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Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 02 March 2010, 17:50:27
I love DFI's bios tweaking ability. A ***** to get right, but when you do, you can clock the **** out of your chip. I miss my Abit NF7-S rev2 for that. Had my XP-1700 to 2.8 on air (1.46 stock). Stable too, I ran a 48hr Prime blend just to annoy people.

EDIT

here is the board I am thinking about getting for the possible rendering rig.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/InSanCenPP/KGPE.jpg

4P boards are yet to appear, but I will see what the final bill looks like before I decide.
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Post by: InSanCen on Tue, 02 March 2010, 18:08:32
Wait until you hit the new Intel architecture, FSB is gone, QPI is in. It's similar-ish to what AMD did when they pulled the Memory controller onto the CPU. Going from Socket A (462) to K8 (939) was a whole new learning curve for me.

If you want anything other than a casual overclock, it gets quite involved, and your system needs to be up to scratch.
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Post by: ricercar on Tue, 02 March 2010, 18:47:08
I run a NVIDIA engineering sample equivalent to the Intel A8N SLI-deluxe; even use my AMD A8N SLI-deluxe CDROM for driver installs.

Ah, the fond memories. Around when AMD and Intel started discussing CPUs with integrated memory controllers, the nForce team was really pissed off at AMD. At the time it appeared AMD wanted integrated memory controller for the performance, while Intel was so worried about nForce they wanted to do away with the Northbridge entirely to preserve their dominance. NVIDIA was THE ENEMY. We didn't yet have an Intel FSB license, even though nForce nortbridges could be strapped for it from the nForce2 era. Huang wasn't willing to pay Intel $11-15 per motherboard, which was the extortionate price Intel demanded even though others paid under $4 (read: others = chipset companies not threatening Intel market share).

Then Intel Pentium 4 architecture pretty much peaked out at 4GHz; they ran into some sort of performance ceiling. Blah blah race conditions, aberrant behavior blah blah. Intel needed a patent from the NVIDIA portfolio to go forward. Period. No alternative. Suddenly we were the best buddies, and cross-licensed technology. NVIDIA finally got the Intel FSB, and Intel got patents that offered a stay of execution on their x86 architecture.

And lo, forthwith the number of cores and power consumption becameth THE SPEC for Intel CPUs, whilst raw clock speed henceforth was discussed no more.
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Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 03 March 2010, 00:59:15
For the vast majority of people, there's no need. But, as a saying goes, "Why does a dog lick it's Bollocks? Because it can!"

PC's these days a incredibly fast. I struggle to think of more than a few people who actually *need* a quad, hence the popularity of Netbooks.
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Post by: Half-Saint on Wed, 03 March 2010, 01:15:23
I don't have a proper "big rig" anymore. Nowadays I mostly use a Toshiba Satellite Pro A200 laptop as a desktop replacement :-)

My primary PC used to be an Athlon XP-M 2400+ built around ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe mobo.

Cheers
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Post by: williamjoseph on Wed, 03 March 2010, 06:53:32
GA-MA790FXT-UD5P is my gigabyte motherboard.  It was easy to setup, everything attached well, and i love the direct power buttons that are onboard. the only issue i had was i had to contact my RAMs maker to get custom northbridge voltage settings, i never new that running 4 sticks would be so different from runing only 2.  i kept crashing untill i got those settings
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 03 March 2010, 09:21:09
Pfft.

You call these big rigs?

This is a big rig -




Key specs -

2 x SGI Altix 350 with -
2 x 1.4GHz Itanium 2 per node
12GB DDR-333 ECC per node

Master node has -
2 x 73GB U320 drives
Gigabit Ethernet
CentOS 4.7 (to be replaced with Debian at some point)

Nodes are linked with NUMAlink 3 cables.

Getting it running was one hell of an experience.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 03 March 2010, 14:19:07
Quote from: Half-Saint;161613
My primary PC used to be an Athlon XP-M 2400+ built around ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe mobo.

Super fine board, the most stable I've ever used. Working at NVIDIA, I wrote the nForce 2 reference Design Guide that ASUS followed for the A7N8x series. Working at VMware, I built 14 servers based on A7N8X boards (-E, -E Deluxe, -VM, -VM400), the most stable x86 machines I've ever used. They had it all: Soundstorm 5.1 audio, GeForce video, dual gigabit Ethernet, dual-channel RAM with 2 GB ceiling, dual IDE ATA-6, plus 3 or 6 PCI slots to expand with. Since 2003 I've been running A7N8X motherboards, and never had to call ASUS tech support for warranty service. (But when I bought an ASUS video card, I found out how horrible ASUS support is in the US.)

Eight years down the road, and I still have an A7N8X-VM/400 hosting a media server, and an A7N8X-E Deluxe hosting a file and virtual machine server.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Thu, 04 March 2010, 01:03:52
I loved the A7N8X deluxe. Had some very high clocks out of it. I think most NF2 based boards were good (Abit's NF7-S, DFI's NF2 Ultra B).). Via's KT 600 chipset sucked balls in comparison though. They were cheap, the chips were cheap (and unlocked), and times were good.

My NF7-S has done sterling service, and after me was in a production photoshop box, and now lives at my Mother-in-Law's living out it's days in a websurfing machine.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 12 March 2010, 18:07:26
Well, that bloody jinxed it!

One NF7-S sitting here, dead as a dodo. Currently looking to replace it, and scouring the Classifieds on the many forums I frequent, as they are too cheapskate to spring for a new mobo and ram, despite me offering to donate a nice shiny fast Dualcore.

The chip (Barton 2500 which has been ran at 3200 speeds from day 1), is fine.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Fri, 12 March 2010, 18:15:32
My NF7-S was not long lived. Sorry to hear you jinxed yours.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 12 March 2010, 18:18:39
Quote from: ch_123;161652
Pfft.

You call these big rigs?

This is a big rig -




Key specs -

2 x SGI Altix 350 with -
2 x 1.4GHz Itanium 2 per node
12GB DDR-333 ECC per node

Master node has -
2 x 73GB U320 drives
Gigabit Ethernet
CentOS 4.7 (to be replaced with Debian at some point)

Nodes are linked with NUMAlink 3 cables.

Getting it running was one hell of an experience.

Nice iron. It's been a while since I played with Itanium. I got on the Opteron train quick smart when they hit. Only played with a few when Clients had a problem with hardware.

I will, if allowed to when the NDA lifts, post some pics and specs of the monster renderfarm that is very very likely to go ahead in the near future.

This is the first time in a looooong time I have got excited about a server buildout, despite the work ahead of me. I love working with this client, and the sight of that many 64U racks is just a hardware wet dream.

@ricercar

I'm not too annoyed. It's an old system, and being the rev1 board, it had known issues. I'm surprised it lived this long given the abuse it has had over the years (My overclocking, heavy Photoshop use). Massive dust buildup was what killed it, the NB cooked.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 12 March 2010, 20:17:39
Quote from: ch_123;161652
Pfft.

You call these big rigs?

This is a big rig -




Key specs -

2 x SGI Altix 350 with -
2 x 1.4GHz Itanium 2 per node
12GB DDR-333 ECC per node

Master node has -
2 x 73GB U320 drives
Gigabit Ethernet
CentOS 4.7 (to be replaced with Debian at some point)

Nodes are linked with NUMAlink 3 cables.

Getting it running was one hell of an experience.


I've got you beat.
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8042&stc=1&d=1266882586)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kriminal on Fri, 12 March 2010, 21:07:02
oooohhh lian li case.... eeewww @ cable mangement
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 03:12:41
Quote from: microsoft windows;163553
I've got you beat.

I bet if I dropped one of those racks on your Gateway it would probably disintegrate.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Sat, 13 March 2010, 05:48:20
Size isn't everything MSWindows. Your gateway is bigger than the 4U boxes I am going to be building, but a single one of the 48 cores would slay anything you own. Putting a Pentium MMX in a Mountain Mods case does not make it faster. Rackmount is what the big boys play with.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 06:56:51
Obvious statement is obvious.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 13 March 2010, 08:50:08
Quote from: InSanCen;163628
Size isn't everything MSWindows. Your gateway is bigger than the 4U boxes I am going to be building, but a single one of the 48 cores would slay anything you own. Putting a Pentium MMX in a Mountain Mods case does not make it faster. Rackmount is what the big boys play with.

The Pentium in the Gateway2000 actually isn't an MMX. But on Windows 95, the computer runs perfectly well. The Internet isn't lightning fast, but what can you expect out of a 14-year-old computer from a skip in the supermarket parking lot?

Rackmount computers aren't as much fun and are much more common. I had an old Pentium III rackmount server a while ago. It was almost the size as that old Gateway2000 though.


Quote from: ch_123;163598
I bet if I dropped one of those racks on your Gateway it would probably disintegrate.

No it wouldn't. It's got a nice sturdy steel frame underneath that plastic front panel and sheet-metal cover. I've sat on that thing and it hasn't budged.

Quote from: ripster;163566
Oh yeah?  Yours may be taller but mine is wider.

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8357&stc=1&d=1268449437)


94% of women prefer that.


The Gateway2000's about as wide as that case. It's just that the height-width ratio is different since it's a full tower.

What interests me about your computer there is its wheels though.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 08:58:38
Quote from: microsoft windows;163664
The Pentium in the Gateway2000 actually isn't an MMX. But on Windows 95, the computer runs perfectly well. The Internet isn't lightning fast, but what can you expect out of a 14-year-old computer from a skip in the supermarket parking lot?


How many machines do you need for web browsing anyway?

Quote
Rackmount computers aren't as much fun


They are and they aren't. If you can get something powerful, or something that can handle a load of hard drives then they are very useful. I'd never use one as a personal machine though. Ssh access an' all... all the things you can't do with Windows 95.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 13 March 2010, 14:19:07
That gateway2000 actually has a total 6 floppy/hard disk slots inside it. I bet if I filled them all up with my hard disks I could get a whomping 57.3GB of disk space.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 14:34:21
Unless your Gateway can support multiple, hot-swappable SCSI drives, I think you're probably thinking of something different to what I am...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Sat, 13 March 2010, 14:53:10
(http://root.blogs.lysator.liu.se/files/2010/01/high-up.png)

Biggest thing we run at the computer club at the moment. We've made room for an alphaserver (GS160) that sort of matches that Sun E20K, though, which will be wider but lower, and also two cabinets and not one giant lump of metal.

But rackmounted stuff is more fun than old desktop junk. Decidedly so.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 14:58:01
The Itanium system I posted pics of a few pages back was pressed into service with the computer society I'm involved with in college. It hides under a desk, and our ethernet switch actually drowns out the noise it makes.

Nice Sun machine, would like one of these though -

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/273306684_38aa768bb9.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Sat, 13 March 2010, 16:02:46
Yeah, and when you consider that the company that donated the E20K replaced it with a 2U blade server...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 16:10:02
We have a Sun E450, which when donated to us by Sun, would have been worth  ~€40,000 and was the single quickest computer in the entire college for quite some time. We have to share a server room with one of the departments, and they want rid of it because it puts out so much power and heat.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Sat, 13 March 2010, 17:31:31
We're working on taking one of those out of service at the moment. That one I pictured apparently cost $500k new, basic config, and we've maxed it out. Other than that we also run a couple of SF4800 as well as a lot of other stuff. We're trying to slim the operations some now, though. As it is, we have far more cpu power than we can possibly ever make use of really.

But yeah, it's all very good at consuming power and producing heat. Even though we have our own datacenter, there are some limits to what we can run (3*50A, but the cooling is the real limit, really). Not to mention rackable space. We have realistic room for about 20 racks, and we're kind of pushing that limit too. But it's fun playing around with stuff like this, not everyone ever gets a chance to play with high end enterprise hardware like we do.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 13 March 2010, 17:36:55
Having an Alpha rack would be pretty awesome. We have an unofficial policy of trying to keep obscure, non-Wintel stuff around for educational purposes, thus why we kept the Itanium racks and let members take home IBM Netburst Xeon racks that were probably more useful. Do you run VMS on it?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Sat, 13 March 2010, 17:55:59
Well, technically we're letting a second computer society have some space in our hall, but there's some talk being done on them being assimilated by us. But yeah, they run VMS on their alphas.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Sat, 13 March 2010, 18:37:07
There's a part of me wishes you two could see what I am doing in the next few weeks. it involves 250x 4P in 4U, housed in 64U racks (limited floorspace, 20ft ceilings). Not too many people appreciate enterprise level hardware. Shame I don't get to get my hands dirty other than this one Client. But when I do, it's epic hardware porn (I started building for this client many years ago when he was running a single rack). I'm still trying to justify getting myself a single 4U of the same config at this level.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 13 March 2010, 20:16:06
Quote from: ch_123;163764
The Itanium system I posted pics of a few pages back was pressed into service with the computer society I'm involved with in college. It hides under a desk, and our ethernet switch actually drowns out the noise it makes.

Nice Sun machine, would like one of these though -

Show Image
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/273306684_38aa768bb9.jpg)


Mmm...a dumpster. Prime spot for finding computers.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 13 March 2010, 21:26:43
ThinkPad T60p 15"
Core Duo T2500 2.0 GHz
2.5 GiB RAM
ATI Mobility FireGL V5250 (think Mobility Radeon X700)
DVD+/-RW DL
Bluetooth
IDTech IAQX10N 2048x1536 IPS LCD
Windows 7 Professional

Alternately...

Sun Blade 2500 Silver
2x 1.6 GHz UltraSPARC IIIi
8 GiB RAM
XVR-100 graphics (rebadged Radeon 7000 Mac Edition)
73 GiB 10k RPM Ultra320 SCA SCSI drive
DVD-ROM/CD-RW
iOne Scorpius M10 and IBM ScrollPoint Optical
IBM T221-DG5. 3840x2400... except the graphics card tops out at 1920x1200. :(
OpenSolaris build 133 (I shut it down due to power consumption a few days ago, and didn't update it to 134. Right now, there's a thin client in its place. :P)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 March 2010, 04:39:50
Quote from: microsoft windows;163810
Mmm...a dumpster. Prime spot for finding computers.


Wrong again. (http://www.sun.com/service/sunmd/)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Ski11z on Sun, 14 March 2010, 07:00:42
In the works:
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7937/img0742y.jpg) (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/img0742y.jpg/)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8516/img0731i.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/img0731i.jpg/)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 14 March 2010, 09:24:57
Quote from: ch_123;163867
Wrong again. (http://www.sun.com/service/sunmd/)


Guess you didn't understand the joke.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Sun, 14 March 2010, 16:02:01
Quote from: ch_123;163867
Wrong again. (http://www.sun.com/service/sunmd/)


Quote from: microsoft windows;163894
Guess you didn't understand the joke.


There's an epic fail here.

I don't presently have any dumpster computers (nor computers which appear to be dumpsters), but I second the notion that interesting stuff can be had from what others are disposing of.

A couple PS/2s among other things.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 March 2010, 16:11:57
Oh definitely. But I don't bother with older stuff. I see plenty of G3 iMacs and P2/P3s being tossed out on a regular basis... useless as far as Im concerned.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Sun, 14 March 2010, 19:47:47
Quote from: ch_123;163990
Oh definitely. But I don't bother with older stuff. I see plenty of G3 iMacs and P2/P3s being tossed out on a regular basis... useless as far as Im concerned.


Consider, however, that a P3 system will almost invariably be more usable than an early P4 and has good use as a first/learner computer for the elderly or low income families, etc.

Another approach: internet browser terminal in a retail store to view store's website.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 15 March 2010, 00:46:35
Quote from: kishy
Consider, however, that a P3 system will almost invariably be more usable than an early P4 and has good use as a first/learner computer for the elderly or low income families, etc.


Maybe if it's a Tualatin, but a good early P4 system was a little faster than the fastest Coppermines.

The only reason I could see a Williamette being worse than a Coppermine is that RDRAM is horrendously expensive, so it's cheaper to fill the Cumine with RAM... but the Cumine will also (most likely) have less RAM capacity.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: datamonger128 on Mon, 15 March 2010, 00:57:55
You mention Willamette P4s using RDRAM.  Some of them actually use PC-133.  The Dell Dimension 4300 I am working on at the moment is one of them.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Mon, 15 March 2010, 01:02:22
Ah, forgot that the 845 dated back that far.

Still, unless it's something with a VIA chipset or something, the very earliest P4 systems were using RDRAM. And, the 845 was a budget chipset, and the budget offering before the 845 came out was the Tualatin attached to an 810 or 815, IIRC.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 15 March 2010, 01:29:54
Quote from: InSanCen;161731
I loved the A7N8X deluxe. Had some very high clocks out of it. I think most NF2 based boards were good (Abit's NF7-S, DFI's NF2 Ultra B).). Via's KT 600 chipset sucked balls in comparison though. They were cheap, the chips were cheap (and unlocked), and times were good.

My NF7-S has done sterling service, and after me was in a production photoshop box, and now lives at my Mother-in-Law's living out it's days in a websurfing machine.


I have an A7N8X Deluxe with a Barton 2600+ 1917MHz and 768MB of RAM in the other room. Once I get a decent ATX 1.x power supply I'm going to turn it into a fileserver.



Main rig... Well. :p

Q9550 @ 3.7GHz
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 motherboard
4GB OCZ DDR2 1066
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB
Corsair TX750W
WD Caviar Black 500GB
Windows Vista x64



Can you tell I'm from Overclock.net? ;)
Title: Alt.mac
Post by: technicallyrite on Mon, 15 March 2010, 17:35:05
MacBook 3,1 Santa Rosa  
2.2 Merom Core 2 duo
4gb OWC 667 memory
128gb G.Skill Falcon flashed to an OCZ Vertex
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 15 March 2010, 18:31:24
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;164122
I have an A7N8X Deluxe with a Barton 2600+ 1917MHz and 768MB of RAM in the other room. Once I get a decent ATX 1.x power supply I'm going to turn it into a fileserver.



Main rig... Well. :p

Q9550 @ 3.7GHz
Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 motherboard
4GB OCZ DDR2 1066
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB
Corsair TX750W
WD Caviar Black 500GB
Windows Vista x64



Can you tell I'm from Overclock.net? ;)


Very nice computer; very bad OS. I would recommend Windows XP or Windows 7. They run plenty faster than Vista.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 March 2010, 18:53:42
Vista is a plenty fine OS...certainly superior to 95 or ME with regards to stability.

I jest, I jest.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 15 March 2010, 18:55:20
DOS was quite stable. After all, there was nothing to crash.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Mon, 15 March 2010, 19:02:18
Quote from: ch_123;164283
DOS was quite stable. After all, there was nothing to crash.


True.

I keep noticing POS systems in stores running DOS or some equivalent and a text mode "faux-GUI" type checkout software...no idea why I notice these things.

Increasingly they're being eliminated by newer solutions, like those dumbass touchscreen debit machines that never work properly.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ricercar on Mon, 15 March 2010, 19:49:14
Quote from: ch_123;164283
DOS was quite stable. After all, there was nothing to crash.


You forget DOS 4. Crash Crash Lockup Crash.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: datamonger128 on Thu, 25 March 2010, 02:40:39
So I guess that's why we never hear about DOS 4.  Every time I see something that relates to DOS, it's either DOS 3, 5, or 6.  Most common would be DOS 5.  With Windows 3.1 on the same computer, of course.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 25 March 2010, 13:56:43
I used DOS 6.22 with Windows 3.1.  Never had any issues with it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 25 March 2010, 16:54:27
Quote from: kishy;164282
Vista is a plenty fine OS...certainly superior to 95 or ME with regards to stability.

I jest, I jest.


Windows 95 never crashed on me in the many years I used it. As a matter of fact, I'm posting this right now on my Windows 95 machine.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 25 March 2010, 16:58:03
(http://www.globalresearch.ca/coverStoryPictures/16556.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Fri, 26 March 2010, 05:12:42
Quote from: microsoft windows;166864
Windows 95 never crashed on me in the many years I used it. As a matter of fact, I'm posting this right now on my Windows 95 machine.


An anecdote does not a sound counterargument make, really.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Fri, 26 March 2010, 16:54:15
Quote from: microsoft windows;166864
Windows 95 never crashed on me in the many years I used it. As a matter of fact, I'm posting this right now on my Windows 95 machine.


You aint using it hard enough. It had more crashes than my myopic uncle who saw no problem with downing 6 pints and driving home.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Sun, 28 March 2010, 08:37:39
Keep in mind, hardware was lower quality back then.

I've had good quality hardware that ran Windows 95 extremely stably. Not quite as stable as modern OSes, but good enough.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Sun, 28 March 2010, 09:21:44
Quote from: bhtooefr;167601
Keep in mind, hardware was lower quality back then.


Sorry to do this but...

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Citation-Needed-wikipedia-819731_500_271.jpg)

Yeah.

Hardware was at what I'd describe as a peak of quality in the 80s...because nobody knew they COULD do it badly and get away with it. The 90s is a gray area, and as far as OEM equipment goes, I think we're presently in the lowest quality period of all...but that's my opinion, derived from what I've witnessed myself.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 28 March 2010, 09:58:17
I'd go with saying some hardware was lower quality back then.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Sun, 28 March 2010, 10:09:10
OK, the lowest-end hardware was lower quality.

You could get away with selling outright bad RAM back in the 90s, and not state that it's bad.

Or even motherboards with counterfeit chipsets and fake cache RAM.

Can't get away with that today.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Sun, 28 March 2010, 10:15:28
Quote from: bhtooefr;167614
OK, the lowest-end hardware was lower quality.

You could get away with selling outright bad RAM back in the 90s, and not state that it's bad.

Or even motherboards with counterfeit chipsets and fake cache RAM.

Can't get away with that today.


OK, valid points. I've seen examples of both (PCChips board with a counterfeit chipset is in the closet of doom, actually, though it does have real cache chips...but only half the solder pads for them are populated).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kishy on Sun, 28 March 2010, 10:18:46
I hope they aren't suggesting the nano rip-off can play video...

I wanted a counterfeit iPhone just to say I have a counterfeit iPhone. I don't buy and won't buy an Apple product, but I'm happy to sponsor the people who counterfeit their products.

Unfortunately the counterfeit ones don't seem to work on North American cell networks.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Sun, 28 March 2010, 11:51:30
Yeah, but most of those can't be sold in the US. And, for PC hardware, much harder to find that stuff in the US.

If you want to use something on North American cell networks that's sold in China, GSM will be better. The GSM hardware you want will support GSM850 and 1900. For 3G, there are 1900, 1700, and 850 bands. The Chinese hardware will usually support four GSM bands (850, 900, 1800, 1900,) so voice and slow data will work, and most likely some combination of 900, 1800, and 2100 for 3G, so fast data won't work.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Sun, 18 April 2010, 19:11:05
InSanCen just scored some nice hardware. A 1.2KW Akasa PSU, and an OCZ GameeXtreme 1KW. Both are drastic overkill, but hell, I just couldn't say no. Just need to decide which to use, and which to ebay.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zXWF on Tue, 20 April 2010, 11:01:14
I have a Lemote Yeeloong netbook with the following specs:



In a week I will also be the owner of a Leomte Fuloong. I also have the following equipment:

Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 20 April 2010, 11:17:10
Longsoon... Those are the Chinese MIPS copies right? Which OS do they run?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zXWF on Tue, 20 April 2010, 12:59:59
Quote from: ch_123;173758
Longsoon... Those are the Chinese MIPS copies right? Which OS do they run?


I wouldn't say MIPS copies. They are using a RISC ISA and are MIPS-compatible. Produced by the Chinese Institute of Computing I think.

Alot of GNU/Linux operating systems have been ported to the Loongson platform and there is an own development group called linux-loongson to improve Linux support for the Loongson processor.

I am using the completely free GNU/Linux operating system gNewSense. There is also ports of Gentoo, Debian and a port of Parabola (a fork of Arch Linux) is under process.

Lemote have created their own GNU/Linux distrobution called Loonux that is default with the computers.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Wed, 21 April 2010, 00:01:16
They started out as MIPS copies, now they're basically licensed MIPSen. I've considered a loongson to replace my current netbook, but gnewsense will have to be debian based instead of ubuntu based first.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zXWF on Wed, 21 April 2010, 01:21:59
Quote from: kode;173985
They started out as MIPS copies, now they're basically licensed MIPSen. I've considered a loongson to replace my current netbook, but gnewsense will have to be debian based instead of ubuntu based first.


Actually, the gNewSense 3.0 metad (the one running on MIPS architecture) is based on Debian Squeeze. It's only gNewSense 2.3 Deltah that is based on Ubuntu :)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kode on Wed, 21 April 2010, 12:57:28
Quote from: bleakgadfly;173995
Actually, the gNewSense 3.0 metad (the one running on MIPS architecture) is based on Debian Squeeze. It's only gNewSense 2.3 Deltah that is based on Ubuntu :)


Yes, I know. And last I heard it wasn't released yet.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zXWF on Wed, 21 April 2010, 14:50:52
Quote from: kode;174162
Yes, I know. And last I heard it wasn't released yet.


Not in a stable, because squeeze still have issues. I have used the 3.0 metad for a couple of months now and I have noticed anything on my YeeLoong.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: outofideas on Thu, 22 April 2010, 13:44:50
Quote from: InSanCen;163526
Well, that bloody jinxed it!

One NF7-S sitting here, dead as a dodo. Currently looking to replace it, and scouring the Classifieds on the many forums I frequent, as they are too cheapskate to spring for a new mobo and ram, despite me offering to donate a nice shiny fast Dualcore.

The chip (Barton 2500 which has been ran at 3200 speeds from day 1), is fine.


I had an NF7-S which died when it was roughly 4 years old, the failure was due to a single largish dead capacitor near the AGP slot.  I replaced it, with a pair of caps with a total capacitance in the right ballpark and it started working again.

As I recall the failed capacitor's manufacturer was different from every other cap on the board.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Thu, 22 April 2010, 14:01:17
Quote from: outofideas;174608
I had an NF7-S which died when it was roughly 4 years old, the failure was due to a single largish dead capacitor near the AGP slot.  I replaced it, with a pair of caps with a total capacitance in the right ballpark and it started working again.

As I recall the failed capacitor's manufacturer was different from every other cap on the board.


The entire board had been re-capped with low ESR Rubycon's after a POST to make sure it worked. It was clocked to the limit from the word go.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 26 April 2010, 15:20:25
Got my shiny new PSU's... The Akasa is huge! Good thing I have a CM Stacker to house it in.

A Picture for comparison.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc307/InSanCenPP/psugoodness.jpg)

Top:- Akasa 1200W
Middle:- OCZ 1000W
Bottom:- Cheap and Nasty 400W system wrecker
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 27 April 2010, 19:46:50
That 1200-watter's the equivalent of powering 10 of my windows 95 computers.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 28 April 2010, 05:07:13
It is actually vast overkill at the moment, but I have plans to get a little something with 48 cores, a Silly array of graphics cards, and that PSU will go from "WTF, that's insane!" to "I hope it can power this with stable rails".

And if that falls through, it's good for pissing mates off with, much like the OCZ 1KW that's currently powering a Single core AXP/SDRAM setup just for ****s and giggles.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: waperboy on Wed, 28 April 2010, 10:16:29
Quote from: microsoft windows;176740
That 1200-watter's the equivalent of powering 10 of my windows 95 computers.


I take it then that you have more than 10 windows 95 computers? :)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Wed, 28 April 2010, 11:59:37
http://www.acmemicro.com/estore/ShowProduct.aspx?pid=7933

Using that?

(Four sockets = 48 cores, and up to four graphics cards, although you'll have pretty wimpy cards to fit four in.)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 28 April 2010, 13:16:47
Quote from: InSanCen;176786
a Single core AXP/SDRAM setup


Did anyone else think InSanCen was talking about a DEC Alpha there... or is it just me? =P
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: InSanCen on Wed, 28 April 2010, 16:34:20
Quote from: bhtooefr;176889
http://www.acmemicro.com/estore/ShowProduct.aspx?pid=7933

Using that?

(Four sockets = 48 cores, and up to four graphics cards, although you'll have pretty wimpy cards to fit four in.)


That board, yes. In a 2U? No, this will be in a 4U. CArds will likely be Nvidia G92 based (CUDA)

Quote from: ch_123;176913
Did anyone else think InSanCen was talking about a DEC Alpha there... or is it just me? =P


LOL... I didn't even see that until you said...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: audioave10 on Sat, 15 May 2010, 15:19:07
Corsair HX 620 PSU
Hiper Anubis case
Gigabyte MA 790X UD4P mobo
AMD Phenom II 945 (95watt) OC @ 3.4Ghz
2 x 2 Geil Black Dragon 1066 RAM
WD 640GB "Black" hard drive
Nvidia GTX 470 video card
DECK Legend "Toxic"
MS optical mouse
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 16 May 2010, 06:13:41
Quote from: waperboy;176844
I take it then that you have more than 10 windows 95 computers? :)


Oh yeah, he has lots of old computer junk! You'd probably trip on DOS computers entering into his house.

And for christmas, this is what his tree looks like:
(http://www.makingjunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/img_1765.JPG)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: datamonger128 on Thu, 20 May 2010, 02:10:09
That's AWESOME!  I want floppy disks on my tree this year.  They'll go good with my two Star Trek ornaments.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: phillip on Thu, 20 May 2010, 13:43:10
amd phenom ii x4 920 w/ kingwin xt-1264.  basically a xigmatek hdt-s1283 knockoff.
gigabyte ga-ma790xt-ud4p
8gb g.skill pi black ddr2
msi 8800gt
corsair hx620
antec 1200
5x1tb, 1x640gb, 5x500gb, 1x320gb.  2x1tb is in a d-link dns-323, 1 is in a thermaltake dock.  the rest are all crammed in my case :(
samsung sh-s223l
nec nd-3520a
dell e248wfp
samsung 204t
filco majestouch linear force
logitech g500
x-trac hammer
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: J888www on Fri, 21 May 2010, 14:08:30
Lian Li PC-A05B + T-LM14B-2 Top Cover + Chilled PC Aluminium Case Feet.

ASROCK P55 Deluxe Socket 1156 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard.

Intel Core i5 750 Socket LGA1156 8MB L3 Cache @ OC 3.99GHz.

OCZ 120GB 2.5" SATAII Solid Series Solid State Drive.

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800.

Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 1GB Dual Link DVI GDDR5 DirectX 11

Prolimatech Megahalems RevB Processor Cooler + NoiseBlocker BlackSilentFan XL1 - 120mm Fan.

Be Quiet 650W Dark Power Pro Modular PSU.

LG GH22LS50 22x DVD±RW.

Arctic Cooling MX-3 TIM.

Fans:-
Top Outlet - Noiseblocker BlackSilentPRO PK-2 140mm Fan.
Front Outlet - NoiseBlocker BlackSilentFan XL2 - 120mm Fan.
Back Inlet - NoiseBlocker BlackSilentFan XL2 - 120mm Fan.

Viewsonic VX2260WM Full HD 22" TFT Monitor 1920x1080.
               ______________________________

Tested other components but finally settled on this Build.
At present running stable with OC @ 3.99GHz with Inlet and Outlet fans set at approximately 65%-70% RPM.
Do not intend to set OC to higher level as my preference is towards ambient noise level.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: J888www on Fri, 21 May 2010, 15:34:14
After 5-6 Months of choosing the components, the 1st. attempt was a disaster. The system was running too hot, so I has to order a case top cover with a 140mm fan outlet, had problems with product availability. Then thought the Corsair H50 CPU cooler wasn't as good as the reviews stated, so replaced it. Finally, I was happy after I got those aluminium case feet (silly old fool with his little details). Skimped on the monitor though, really wanted a IPS 24", but decided that my failing eye-sight would not notice that much difference.
All in all, I'm happy it, but probably not for long as I have too much time atm.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Dezeer on Fri, 21 May 2010, 16:02:41
I7 920 @ 4Ghz Megahalems with 2 x GT 1450 @ 7V

P6T Deluxe V2

OCZ 1600 Gold 6GB

5850 have got MK-13 but hadn't had the time to install.

F3 1TB

Seasonic x-650

Fractal design

And on coming I have ZR24W


Computer is quite quiet, but not noiseless.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Fri, 21 May 2010, 16:35:26
Hm, wonder why I haven't posted here.


Asus P5Q Pro
Core 2 Quad Q9550 @3.4GHz
4GB OCZ DDR2 1066
Thermaltake V1 CPU heatsink
Sapphire Radeon HD4870 1GB
Corsair TX750
Antec 900
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
Western Digital Caviar 320GB
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer

And for peripherals:
Samsung SyncMaster 205BW
Acer AL1916W
JVC RX700 headphones (modded)
Logitech G500
Cherry G80-8200LPDUS
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: zwmalone on Tue, 20 July 2010, 21:16:31
The Web Development firm I work for supplied me with a new system (How nice)...

Now I'm rolling with a MacBook Pro
2.5GHz Core2Duo,
4GB of RAM
250GB HD
GeForce 8600GT 512MB
17" 1680x1050 IPS LCD
DVD+RW
Mac OS X 10.6.3

Sooo much better than the single core Toshiba from before...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Tue, 20 July 2010, 21:20:56
CM 690
Corsair VX550
Gigabyte 790XT-UD4P
Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.7GHz/1.55V
4GB G.Skill 1333MHz/7-8-7-20
640GB Caviar Black + 400GB Deskstar
XFX 4890 @ 990/1100/1.35V
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Morning Song on Tue, 20 July 2010, 21:46:38
These are my specs

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11796&stc=1&d=1279680367)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Tue, 20 July 2010, 22:26:02
- some core2duo, 4 GB, 250GB Dell POS that work provides for my job w/ dual 19" TN panels.

- "server": old amd x2 3000+ or some ****, 3 gigs of RAM (had 4 in dual chan but a stick died and it sits idle 99.99999% of the time anyway) with two 500GB-ish drives.

- macbook: c2d @ 2.4, 4GB, 160GB - gave it away to my wife.

-hp mini: atom proc, 2GB, slow ass IDE HDD - on loan as my photo machine right now from the wife I gave the macbook to.

-PVA Viewsonic. aged, time to trade up. Sitting in a box in storage.

-keyboards in sig

-logitech trackball POS (still better than a mouse atm)

-i1display2 - POFS, so was the huey pro. Don't buy x-rite products.

That is the computing monstrosity that rules most aspects of my life at present.

Working on a proper x6 build w/ new dell IPS panel, going to send most of this **** out to pasture (save the mini - slow but so awesome and cute).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: British on Wed, 21 July 2010, 03:29:10
Quote from: Morning Song;204714
These are my specs

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11796&stc=1&d=1279680367)

OK then, this is my Riggs...

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA4OTU1Mjc0MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMjkzOTU3._V1_.jpg)
 (http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=lethal+weapon)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: wap32 on Wed, 21 July 2010, 04:45:00
My "server"/desktop rig at home:

Chieftec mid-tower case w/ 4x 80mm Noiseblocker fans
OEM 550W PSU (yeah, I should really buy something decent)
AMD Athlon X2 3800+ w/ Zalman 7700-CU
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
2GB Corsair XMS DDR PC4000 (2x1GB)
3TB RAID5 array w/ 3x 1.5TB Seagate HDDs
640GB RAID0 array w/ 2x 320GB WD HDDs
Radeon HD5450 512MB fanless
Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
Pinnacle analogue TV card

peripherals:
20" Samsung 205BW (1680x1050)
17" Eizo L567 (1280x1024)
AKG K-601 headphones (w/o amp for now)
Razer Lachesis
Compaq MX-11800 (on it's way)

Not much of a rig, but it's fine for what I need, and doesn't make much noise.

For everything else I use my ThinkPad T61.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Wed, 21 July 2010, 18:10:24
I may start using my Antec High Current Pro 1200W engineering sample as my PSU and sell my TX750. I mean, my computer draws less than 350W, but I could use some cash and I can't sell the ES. Plus it's supposed to be 92% efficient from 100 - 800W.

Also may be getting a free sample of the P183 case.

It's nice having computer cred.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 21 July 2010, 21:18:20
I bought out a tag sale they had at work where they got rid of their old computers. Bought a bunch for $10 a piece and made this:

3.2Ghz Pentium 4 (Prescott)
2.38GB of RAM
80GB hard disk

They had a nice IBM CRT there too. It ran at 1600x1200 at 85Hz. But I let a friend take it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 22 July 2010, 05:47:21
How did you get .38GB of RAM?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 22 July 2010, 07:00:02
I fished a couple 1GB sticks out of other computers, and also put in a 256 and a 128. It all adds up to 2.38GB.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: vyshane on Thu, 22 July 2010, 07:03:29
Current gen 27" iMac (Core i7).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 22 July 2010, 08:28:55
Quote from: ch_123;205201
How did you get .38GB of RAM?


clearly you have never had a slot 1 pentium II - III with 384MB of ram ;)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Pylon on Thu, 22 July 2010, 08:47:56
Current:

Some old HP Pavillion from 2002

P4 1.7GHz (Willamette)
768MB PC133 RAM
Nvidia Riva TNT2 32MB
80GB hard disk
Ubuntu Linux 10.04
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 22 July 2010, 11:17:10
Liquid cooled i7-860 @ 3.8GHz / 1.33V
Asus P7P55D-E Pro mobo
8GB G.Skill ECO DDR3-1600
Radeon 5850
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
80GB Intel X25M SSD
3 spinning disks totaling 2.64TB
Hauppauge HVR-2250 tuner card
Coolermaster HAF922M case with custom handles and smoked plexiglass window mod :)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 22 July 2010, 11:59:59
Quote from: niplfsh;205275
Liquid cooled i7-860 @ 3.8GHz / 1.33V
Asus P7P55D-E Pro mobo
8GB G.Skill ECO DDR3-1600
Radeon 5850
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
80GB Intel X25M SSD
3 spinning disks totaling 2.64TB
Hauppauge HVR-2250 tuner card
Coolermaster HAF922M case with custom handles and smoked plexiglass window mod :)


Surely you can push the CPU higher?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 22 July 2010, 13:34:13
Quote from: gr1m;205282
Surely you can push the CPU higher?


Yeah, I've gotten it to 4.2 mostly stable, but had to push voltage past 1.4 and disable hyperthreading to get there.  3.8 is a good everyday speed with a reasonable voltage. I do want the thing to last a couple years :)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 22 July 2010, 13:44:59
I always thought the amount of voltage you push through your CPU does nothing to affect the CPU's operating lifetime as long as your temps are under control. Also, people I know that use i7s always disable HT for the higher clocks. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Nice rig anyway, want to post some pictures? I'd like to see that modded 922.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:20:45
Maybe I should back down from my 1.55V? It's been running like this for a year. Phenom IIs can handle it though.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:23:38
I've heard it both ways... that voltage degrades the components, and that you're fine as long as the heat is under control.  I'm not sure who to believe, so better safe than sorry I guess.  Anyway, I have no need for such "extreme" speeds except for bragging rights. Even 3.8 is more than enough.  I really just watercooled for the fun and experience of it.  

I'll try to get some pics up in the next day or two.  It's about time I took the thing apart and gave it a good dusting anyway.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:31:06
Quote from: kishy;205342
Overvolting anything, even with proper cooling, can still reduce operating life (read: damage components). It isn't something you should do if you're hoping to pull 10-15 years out of your components (which is an uncommon goal, but certainly mine).


Hey! That's my goal too -- except I want 50 years.

Quote from: instantkamera;205235
clearly you have never had a slot 1 pentium II - III with 384MB of ram ;)


Uhhh... there were pentium 1 computers that had 384 MB of RAM (three slots with 128 sticks).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:34:42
Quote from: EverythingIBM;205363
Hey! That's my goal too -- except I want 50 years.



Uhhh... there were pentium 1 computers that had 384 MB of RAM (three slots with 128 sticks).


uuuhhhh ... really??? So I should have listed every socket/slot, cpu and 384MB-of-ram combination EVER to avoid the obvious troll? Duly noted.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:39:02
Quote from: instantkamera;205365
uuuhhhh ... really??? So I should have listed every socket/slot, cpu and 384MB-of-ram combination EVER to avoid the obvious troll? Duly noted.


I never said that.

You could have simply said older generation computers that utilize 386 RAM (most commonly with three RAM slots because it's an uneven amount). Otherwise it seems like you're solely associating it to pentium 2 & 3 computers. I had an AMD computer that had 384.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:41:04
Does HT affect overclocking?

All I know is that some things really don't take well to being run with HT on, and consequently people disable it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:44:57
Quote from: ch_123;205368
Does HT affect overclocking?

All I know is that some things really don't take well to being run with HT on, and consequently people disable it.

My stupid Pentium 4 likes to turn off HT after awhile (so good luck even trying to make it stay on). I noticed ZERO extra performance, it's just a marketing gag in an attempt to sell as much Pentium 4 chips in its last life cycle before intel pulled the plug on it.

I'm surprised HT is being kept alive in the newer intel chips. It does absolutely nothing.

EDIT: I think it's just best to leave it off. Whether you're overclocking or not.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:48:00
HT does very little for the average consumer. It only helps with what Gr1m called "megatasking"--very compute-intensive, multi-parallel tasks, like batch audio encoding, HD video rendering, distributed computing projects, heavy virtualization, etc.

HT helped a bit with late-generation Pentium 4s, as it helped fill their 20-36 stage instruction pipeline, which is nigh impossible to fill under ordinary use. But it only helped when running at least two compute-heavy tasks at once, otherwise it did nothing.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:48:08
The newer iteration of Hyper Threading is reputedly much better than the one used on Pentium 4s.

It depends on what applications you are using.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:53:16
Quote from: ch_123;205375
The newer iteration of Hyper Threading is reputedly much better than the one used on Pentium 4s.

It depends on what applications you are using.


I hardly think intel is going to bother changing much. It's the same bull**** in the P4s.

I've used many different applications, audio exporting, video exporting, 3D graphics exporting... runs all the same. Unless I'm supposed to run them all at once, which would be kind of stupid... then they'd all go slower unanimously, so even if it improved intensive tasks, it would end up going slower if you were forced to run multiple things for it to actually work!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:54:09
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;205374
HT does very little for the average consumer. It only helps with what Gr1m called "megatasking"--very compute-intensive, multi-parallel tasks, like batch audio encoding, HD video rendering, distributed computing projects, heavy virtualization, etc.

HT helped a bit with late-generation Pentium 4s, as it helped fill their 20-36 stage instruction pipeline, which is nigh impossible to fill under ordinary use. But it only helped when running at least two compute-heavy tasks at once, otherwise it did nothing.


Furthermore, it depends on the different tasks using different parts of the CPU. It's really more useful for servers that consumer machines.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:54:41
They seem to have improved HT in the i7 chips... I've seen tests with HT on vs. HT off showing fairly significant gains.  One thing I do a lot is encode DVDs into x264, and with HT on my computer just blows right through them.  

It can affect overclocking at high speeds, the chips are more stable with it disabled.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 22 July 2010, 14:55:37
Quote from: EverythingIBM;205380
I hardly think intel is going to bother changing much. It's the same bull**** in the P4s.


Given how different the respective CPU architectures are, I don't they could have if they wanted to.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 22 July 2010, 15:28:05
Quote from: EverythingIBM;205367
I never said that.

You could have simply said older generation computers that utilize 386 RAM (most commonly with three RAM slots because it's an uneven amount). Otherwise it seems like you're solely associating it to pentium 2 & 3 computers. I had an AMD computer that had 384.

It should have "seemed" like a light-hearted jest that was really not about anything that matters at all. Apparently anything looks like troll-bait to a troll...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Thu, 22 July 2010, 19:52:29
someone be troll'n, but that is the second reason of the existance of geekhack.org
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 22 July 2010, 19:54:59
Quote from: williamjoseph;205470
someone be troll'n, but that is the second reason of the existance of geekhack.org


first ... second is some BS about ... keyboards, I think.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: williamjoseph on Thu, 22 July 2010, 19:55:17
instantkamera, sweet avatar.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 22 July 2010, 20:03:40
Quote from: williamjoseph;205473
instantkamera, sweet avatar.


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Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 14:10:21
Quote from: EverythingIBM;205363
Hey! That's my goal too -- except I want 50 years.



Uhhh... there were pentium 1 computers that had 384 MB of RAM (three slots with 128 sticks).


Do you use low-density sticks?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 23 July 2010, 16:03:34
Quote from: microsoft windows;205647
Do you use low-density sticks?


I never really paid attention to that actually.

The 128 sticks have eight modules per side (double-sided), so, that'd be 128/16 = 8. I'd say that's pretty low density... sixteen "8MB" modules per stick.

My OCZ DDR400 RAM is plated with a heatsink, so I can't see how many modules it has. My stupid intellistation ECC sticks are 8-sided, so that'd be 1024/16 equalling to 64.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 18:13:38
Those sound like low density sticks. I got a few old 64's but they were high density (4 16MB modules per stick) and they didn't work in my Gateway2000. I gotta get myself some low density sticks sometime.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 24 July 2010, 00:51:00
Quote from: microsoft windows;205725
Those sound like low density sticks. I got a few old 64's but they were high density (4 16MB modules per stick) and they didn't work in my Gateway2000. I gotta get myself some low density sticks sometime.


Does your gateway use 3.3V EDO sticks? If so, I've got plenty to spare.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 25 July 2010, 12:44:22
I don't know exactly. Never bothered to take that good of a look at them.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 July 2010, 14:01:42
Quote from: microsoft windows;206251
I don't know exactly. Never bothered to take that good of a look at them.


Well I read the manuals to all my computers, so I know. Most RAM sticks don't have sufficient information to tell you (just a bunch of random numbers). Interestingly enough MITSUBISHI out of all companies made the little memory modules for the 128 kingston EDO sticks.

But I take it support for the gateway 2000 has long been ceased.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Sun, 25 July 2010, 21:59:47
Finally got around to taking this beast down for cleaning, so here's pics as promised:

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3056/insidey.jpg)

(http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/6843/outsideo.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:15:56
Quote from: niplfsh;206424
Finally got around to taking this beast down for cleaning, so here's pics as promised:

Show Image
(http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/6843/outsideo.jpg)


While nice hardware, the case looks so busy. A more minimalistic one would be better suiting:
(http://www.coolermaster.com/upload/product/5777/featured/top1.jpg?1098635862)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:24:45
Agreed. An Antec rep gave me the choice between their new Dark Fleet cases (ugh (http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MjQwNA==)). I asked for a P183 instead (better (http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MTgwOA==)). I can't stand the chunky tank-tread look of the HAF series and their imitators.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:25:43
Actually, I agree with you. I'm coming from a P180, and I'm a fan of the minimalistic style.  I would've bought that ATCS840 if it existed when I bought my case. That's a nice looking case. But the 922 fit my needs and was on sale for $70.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:28:16
What's your opinion on the P180? The P183 looks to be an evolution on that theme.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:29:56
I helped my friend build a rig in a P182 (I think... gunmetal gray exterior). Inside was cute with the chambers and all but it was kinda expensive for such a lackluster appearance. It looks much nicer than my CM690, but for $60, I'll never regret it. It's like a mini-HAF except it looks less gay on the exterior (interior cable management is almost as BAMF as a HAF 932 - not a 922).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:39:20
I liked the P180.  It looked great and was very quiet.  Plenty of internal drive bays; at that point I had 6 hard drives.  Drawbacks were cable management was a huge pain (I had to get creative with the dremel to make it tolerable) and it weighed a metric ****ton.  AFAIK they've improved the cable management in the newer versions.

Oh and yeah, the Dark Fleet series looks awful.  Bastard child of the HAF series.  I don't think the 922 looks that bad, really... I would have preferred a smoother front but I think it looks better than the 932.  I removed the red LEDs, too.  I have blacklights inside the case, but it's a very subdued glow.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:40:10
Hopefully they have, I lost our Dremel in the move.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Sun, 25 July 2010, 22:44:45
"Ugh" sums up that Dark Fleet very well indeed. I guess a new way to save money is to sell cases without any front or top plates and call it a "cool look".
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 25 July 2010, 23:05:22
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;206441
Hopefully they have, I lost our Dremel in the move.


Is that a premonition referring that you already ordered the P183?

Cable management should be easy inside that case (there's a lot worse; using cable twisties to bundle cords actually helps a lot, if you have any spare bays, I recommend shoving cords in them too):
(http://www.antec.com/images/400/P183_open.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sun, 25 July 2010, 23:08:49
Depends, it's part of their forum reviewer schtick that I got in on for having an obscene amount of posts/rep on OCN (btw Gr1m, I got five flames finally after eight months :p). Every month or two I get to choose from one of 3-4 products, then they send it to me and I post a review on the forums I frequent.

This time it was a choice between one of the new Darkfleet cases (which I've made clear I HATE) or a TPQ-1200. Since I already have an engineering sample of the HCP-1200 that leaves me with nothing that I have any reason to ask for. So I used my one free pass to ask for a P183 instead. I'm waiting for their response.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Mon, 26 July 2010, 00:09:00
I really don't think post/rep count has anything to do with it. It's not as if you're the only person on OCN with a lot of rep.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 00:13:18
It also helps that I got into a conversation with NickShih who asked the Antec marketing department to put me on the list for getting a review sample of the HCP-1200; and they instead put me on the forum reviewer list, and Nick had to send me an engineering sample. Win-win for me, I suppose.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Mon, 26 July 2010, 00:22:57
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;206471
It also helps that I got into a conversation with NickShih who asked the Antec marketing department to put me on the list for getting a review sample of the HCP-1200; and they instead put me on the forum reviewer list, and Nick had to send me an engineering sample. Win-win for me, I suppose.


I think you're a good candidate; especially in terms of technicalities (for those who want extra information rather than just basic outlines).

Although, I seen some dirt-basic PSUs bundled with various chassis.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Mon, 26 July 2010, 00:32:44
You remind me of meticadpa. From zero to self-proclaimed PSU hero in about a week. That's what it looked like on OCN at least.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 08:00:02
Quote from: gr1m;206482
You remind me of meticadpa. From zero to self-proclaimed PSU hero in about a week. That's what it looked like on OCN at least.

At times it even comes close to the truth. Thankfully most issues on OCN don't require the hugely in-depth knowledge of PSU design or obscure manufacturers that I'm weak on. I stick to "favorites" like everyone else with my recommendations; but I back my favorites up with reviews with competent testing, and I change those favorites every time something better comes along. Unlike the poor gofs still recommending the Corsair TX750 (mediocre) or worse the PC P&C Silencer 750W (no longer made or sold).


Competence is mostly a matter of perception.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 08:07:17
Quote from: gr1m;206482
You remind me of meticadpa. From zero to self-proclaimed PSU hero in about a week. That's what it looked like on OCN at least.


The quality of advice is independent of who gives it, no?
Title: My big rig
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 26 July 2010, 12:09:00
Here are the specs of my big rig (current work machine):
Intel Xeon X3430 2.40 GHz
8 GB RAM
Dual 500 GB HDD (RAID 0)
Windows 7 x64

Just got it a month ago and I love having a server-class machine for development work =)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Mon, 26 July 2010, 12:36:52
Quote from: ch_123;206541
The quality of advice is independent of who gives it, no?


You're right but still, people should stop jizzing over "PSU experts".
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: phillip on Mon, 26 July 2010, 14:58:42
Quote from: gr1m;206637
You're right but still, people should stop jizzing over "PSU experts".


yeah, if they want psu reviews they should just go to jonnyguru or something where they have proper test hardware
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Mon, 26 July 2010, 15:24:54
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;206537
Unlike the poor gofs still recommending the Corsair TX750 (mediocre)


I don't understand this recent trend. It's as if trash-talking the TX750 is a requirement to becoming a "PSU expert". I removed meticadpa from Steam the first time round because he just wouldn't shut the **** up about how a TX750 is a bad power supply. It's not. It's decent and it's old. Of course newer power supplies are better.

Quote from: phillip;206663
yeah, if they want psu reviews they should just go to jonnyguru or something where they have proper test hardware


From what I see, a "PSU expert" paraphrases jonnyguru and gets recognition for it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 16:30:59
I don't trash it. It's just when you compare this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=TX750
To this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025&cm_re=truepower_new_750-_-17-371-025-_-Product

And you do your research, if you don't recommend the Antec over the Corsair then you either don't know what you're on about or you're a fanboy ("you" used in the indefinite sense). There's nothing wrong with the TX750, it just gets undeserved praise and can't compete with Antec's aggressive pricing.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: British on Mon, 26 July 2010, 16:42:51
Quote from: EverythingIBM;206451
Cable management should be easy inside that case (there's a lot worse; using cable twisties to bundle cords actually helps a lot, if you have any spare bays, I recommend shoving cords in them too)

After having quite a few Antec and ThermalTake cases, I found my Case-Goddess (yes, it's a she):
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1472/1000939w.jpg) (http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/223/1000939f.jpg)

Stuffed:
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/320/1000965y.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9523/1000965a.jpg)

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/903/1000963p.jpg) (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8350/1000963n.jpg)

Best cable management I ever witnessed, it's so nice not to have all those damn cables flying around.

To compare, my previous rig:
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6153/1000972f.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Mon, 26 July 2010, 16:44:53
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;206674
I don't trash it. It's just when you compare this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=TX750
To this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025&cm_re=truepower_new_750-_-17-371-025-_-Product

And you do your research, if you don't recommend the Antec over the Corsair then you either don't know what you're on about or you're a fanboy ("you" used in the indefinite sense). There's nothing wrong with the TX750, it just gets undeserved praise and can't compete with Antec's aggressive pricing.


Again, one of them is years newer than the other. Are you surprised that it's superior? Besides, the TX750 looks like it's $90 after rebates. That's still a bargain considering I got my VX550 for $83.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 17:07:10
That's the thing, the TX750 is a couple years old and technology has advanced. There's better out there. But a lot of people continue to believe that anything with "Corsair" on the label must be top of the line, even if it's midrange by today's standards.

And yeah the price fluctuates, but they both stay in the $90-$120 range generally.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Mon, 26 July 2010, 20:40:21
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;206681
That's the thing, the TX750 is a couple years old and technology has advanced. There's better out there. But a lot of people continue to believe that anything with "Corsair" on the label must be top of the line, even if it's midrange by today's standards.

And yeah the price fluctuates, but they both stay in the $90-$120 range generally.


I was interested in a lot of the corsair stuff, I don't think it's bad. If I find something too expensive, I just wait a few years until the price goes down. I remember when dungeon siege came out, it was $60. I waited two years and got it for $5 in the "value" bin.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 21:10:47
How come whenever I say "Corsair product XXXXXX isn't the best" they interpret it as "Corsair is bad"?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 27 July 2010, 13:10:17
Because our brain follows a flawed logic. :P

I have a Corsair HX520 in my main pc and a HX450 in my parents pc.
Good little psu's, quiet, but I can also understand if technology has improved in the meantime. Though I wonder how much when it comes to psu's.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Tue, 27 July 2010, 13:14:20
Corsair's warranty is among the best as I hear it (my PSU hasn't failed yet so no RMAs). I would gladly be labelled a Corsair fanboy. My sister tried buying an Antec laptop charger a month ago and RMAing it was a bloody nightmare.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Tue, 27 July 2010, 13:26:40
Don't know about laptop chargers, but I've heard praises and hallelujahs about Antec's PSU customer service. Seems about on par with Corsair, they'll ship it to you at their expense with minimal delay. I don't recall though, I haven't had to RMA something to them before. But from what I've heard it's comparable to Corsair.

Only point I'm not sure on is replacement of other hardware in the event the power supply takes it out. I've only heard of a Corsair doing that once, and Corsair sent a check for the fried mobo and hard drive to be replaced, which was a double mega +++ in my eyes. However I haven't heard an Antec frying anything in recent years so I don't know if they'll do that. I mean, they probably do fry stuff on occasion in the event of bad shorts, I just haven't run across it before.

But on the whole I've heard their support is comparable.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: kriminal on Tue, 27 July 2010, 14:10:31
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;205009
I may start using my Antec High Current Pro 1200W engineering sample as my PSU and sell my TX750. I mean, my computer draws less than 350W, but I could use some cash and I can't sell the ES. Plus it's supposed to be 92% efficient from 100 - 800W.

Also may be getting a free sample of the P183 case.

It's nice having computer cred.


=O
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Tue, 27 July 2010, 15:14:15
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;206851
I don't recall though, I haven't had to RMA something to them before.


That would explain why you don't recall ...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 28 July 2010, 14:05:37
So, just for sake of spamming:
Asus P5Q-E
Intel Core Quad Q9300
8GB A-Data
Radeon 4870 512MB
~2TB HDD space
Razer Diamondback
Microsoft Internet Keyboard(nearly 10 year old membrane piece, waiting to be changed...)
And my pride and joy 22" Lenovo L220x native resolution 1920x1200
+LG 17"
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: British on Wed, 28 July 2010, 14:49:06
I wouldn't call "trying to stay on-topic" spamming, but I guess quite a few people would think otherwise :wink:
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Wed, 28 July 2010, 16:13:03
Quote from: Ekaros;207120

And my pride and joy 22" Lenovo L220x native resolution 1920x1200
+LG 17"


PVA panel if I recall? Last I checked those were terribly overpriced (here in Canada compared to the latest IPS offerings around), did you get a good deal, and where?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 28 July 2010, 16:30:37
Quote from: instantkamera;207153
PVA panel if I recall? Last I checked those were terribly overpriced (here in Canada compared to the latest IPS offerings around), did you get a good deal, and where?


M-PVA yes, about 2 years old bought from local dealer for 411€. I think it as good deal, tried out 24" inch quickly before it but it felt just too big for me... So after some Internet cheking ended up with it, haven't realy regreted buying it even for that price at all. There isn't too many out with similiar specs(size-resolution) and those which are seems to cost even more here...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Wed, 28 July 2010, 17:16:32
yeah it's nice for sure, good res at that size.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 28 July 2010, 18:55:05
Quote from: Ekaros;207156
M-PVA yes, about 2 years old bought from local dealer for 411€. I think it as good deal, tried out 24" inch quickly before it but it felt just too big for me... So after some Internet cheking ended up with it, haven't realy regreted buying it even for that price at all. There isn't too many out with similiar specs(size-resolution) and those which are seems to cost even more here...


Does it have a stand like this?
(http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/7/4/Lenovo_ThinkVision_L220W_HD_monitor_1.jpg)

Those are good stands. Very malleable. I like the little swivel buttons too.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 28 July 2010, 19:09:43
Quote from: EverythingIBM;207193
Does it have a stand like this?
Show Image
(http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/7/4/Lenovo_ThinkVision_L220W_HD_monitor_1.jpg)


Those are good stands. Very malleable. I like the little swivel buttons too.

Yep, stand is just like that one, I don't understand when someone says it's too big... My keyboard fits fine under it if it needs to...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 28 July 2010, 19:36:08
Quote from: Ekaros;207204
Yep, stand is just like that one, I don't understand when someone says it's too big... My keyboard fits fine under it if it needs to...


Yep, I find it as a very nice flush surface to temporarily place things.

It's big in the sense that it has a lot of surface area, but it's also very *flat*. Unlike most stands which are very small but raised up a lot.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Wed, 28 July 2010, 19:39:25
I rest my headphones on my monitor's stand:
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/kugelfangibz/rig/IMG_0808.jpg)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 28 July 2010, 21:22:05
Quote from: gr1m;207217
I rest my headphones on my monitor's stand:
Show Image
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/kugelfangibz/rig/IMG_0808.jpg)


Ewwww, an LG! The lenovo one is way better.

Although I guess your AMD box isn't running dual-channel RAM:
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/kugelfangibz/rig/IMG_0750.jpg)


You have way too much time on your hands:
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/kugelfangibz/bunchie/th_2690.gif)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Wed, 28 July 2010, 21:26:05
Old picture. That was the first hour of cable-job just to see if the parts worked. I sold the third 2GB stick and RMA'd the 4890 3 times until I got a decent one. Also, I don't make those bunchie pictures, lol. I just collect the cool ones I find. Except the one in my avatar. Actually, I would be lying, someone else made it for me, but the concept is mine.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 28 July 2010, 21:30:08
Quote from: gr1m;207234
Old picture. That was the first hour of cable-job just to see if the parts worked. I sold the third 2GB stick and RMA'd the 4890 3 times until I got a decent one. Also, I don't make those bunchie pictures, lol. I just collect the cool ones I find. Except the one in my avatar. Actually, I would be lying, someone else made it for me, but the concept is mine.


#1 well I'm glad you're running in dual channel or I'd have to laugh at you.

#2 I don't think there's a difference between making... "bunchies" or finding them. It still requires time. And you collected so many, I'm sure the time it took you to collect all of those, someome could have already made one.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Wed, 28 July 2010, 21:33:52
Quote from: EverythingIBM;207236
#1 well I'm glad you're running in dual channel or I'd have to laugh at you.

From what I hear about your Pentium to Core 2 upgrade, you shouldn't be laughing at anybody about anything computer-related.

Quote from: EverythingIBM;207236
#2 I don't think there's a difference between making... "bunchies" or finding them. It still requires time. And you collected so many, I'm sure the time it took you to collect all of those, someome could have already made one.

Digging IBM garbage out of a dumpster takes more time than copy/pasting URLs from this website: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bunchie

Besides, what the **** are you snooping around my Photobucket account for?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Wed, 28 July 2010, 21:51:53
Quote from: gr1m;207238
From what I hear about your Pentium to Core 2 upgrade, you shouldn't be laughing at anybody about anything computer-related.



Digging IBM garbage out of a dumpster takes more time than copy/pasting URLs from this website: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bunchie

Besides, what the **** are you snooping around my Photobucket account for?


EIBM sees aaaallllll...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Wed, 28 July 2010, 22:06:49
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;207251
EIBM sees aaaallllll...


Yeah, only 640x480 pixels at a time though.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Wed, 28 July 2010, 22:09:14
Really, a stranger is stalking and digging up pictures from my Photobucket account and then accusing me of having too much time on my hands; hypocrisy at its finest.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 00:34:06
Quote from: kishy;207363
With all due respect, this is like people who complain about Facebook stalking.

(anyone else see the laughable news that someone set up a crawler to pull a couple gigabytes of personal info off Facebook, then threw it up online as a torrent?)

When you put things online, not only should you be aware that people will go through it but you should also expect it. There is no privacy and there ought not be any beyond your own discretion. Put a password on your photobucket account if you're concerned.


No offense taken. I have nothing private on my Photobucket (and I would have put a password on if I did) so it's not a privacy complaint. Just a hypocrisy complaint.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 29 July 2010, 01:09:31
Quote from: gr1m;207368
No offense taken. I have nothing private on my Photobucket (and I would have put a password on if I did) so it's not a privacy complaint. Just a hypocrisy complaint.

Quote from: gr1m;207257
Really, a stranger is stalking and digging up pictures from my Photobucket account and then accusing me of having too much time on my hands; hypocrisy at its finest.


Let us review this two statements in unison:
A) you got angry when I said you were wasting time gathering Bunchies. <-- this is basically the real reason why you made all of those statements.
B) you use [that] anger to say I'm "stalking" public photobucket pages.
C) Then you say I'm wasting my time on your photobucket page -- but then what's the point of accusing me of stalking and getting mad over that when you quickly change it saying I'm wasting time by going on your photobucket, and then calling me a hypocrite -- just to ignore the fact that you were previously saying I was stalking? In other words, you can't accuse me of stalking public pages; but then why did you bring that up? So the accusation of me being a hypocrite is rendered void because that wasn't your original argument. You just "morphed" it into that.

So which one is it, am I stalking your photobucket, am I wasting my time on it, both?

Quote from: Phaedrus2129;207251
EIBM sees aaaallllll...


Yes, I'm the all-seeing-eye of horus.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 01:11:36
Read the second statement you quoted carefully. Especially after the word "account". There, you might see that my original point was that you're a hypocrite for telling me that I wasted my time collecting bunchies while you wasted your time digging ancient pictures up from my Photobucket account.

I'll make it easy for you:
Quote from: gr1m;207257
Really, a stranger is stalking and digging up pictures from my Photobucket account and then accusing me of having too much time on my hands; hypocrisy at its finest.

So, no. I got angry when you said I was wasting time gathering bunchies and then used that anger to say that you're wasting more time stalking my Photobucket page.

*edit
Quote from: EverythingIBM;207396
Anyways... back on topic.

Victory is mine. Read posts properly next time.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Thu, 29 July 2010, 01:18:28
Quote from: Ekaros;207120
So, just for sake of spamming:
Asus P5Q-E
Intel Core Quad Q9300
8GB A-Data
Radeon 4870 512MB
~2TB HDD space
Razer Diamondback
Microsoft Internet Keyboard(nearly 10 year old membrane piece, waiting to be changed...)
And my pride and joy 22" Lenovo L220x native resolution 1920x1200
+LG 17"


Anyways... back on topic.

What case do you use for your computer out of curiosity? 8GB of RAM can get fairly hot if I'm not mistaken. Even old EDO RAM lol (but those things suck a lot of voltage).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 01:33:53
So I'm on Vent and somebody is claiming that anybody buying above 100W PSUs is wrong and we're all misinformed and it's all a conspiracy theory from manufacturers like Corsair to make money. Phaedrus, get on Spec's vent.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 01:45:09
http://www.overclock.net/power-supplies/788140-power-supplies-misinformed-users.html

Lmao. I got all of the buildup on vent. He's trolling though. Quite obviously. It was great while it lasted. He's still going. You know when something's an obvious troll but it's still funny?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 29 July 2010, 04:34:46
Like any time MW posts?

And your link is dead.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 04:36:47
Well, not really dead, the mods took care of it. The troll was weak overall. I'll write a summary later.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Ekaros on Thu, 29 July 2010, 07:18:06
Quote from: EverythingIBM;207396
Anyways... back on topic.

What case do you use for your computer out of curiosity? 8GB of RAM can get fairly hot if I'm not mistaken. Even old EDO RAM lol (but those things suck a lot of voltage).


Antec P180B wanted a big case, but it's kinda too small anyway... Still decent cooling with two 120mm fans next to CPU which is cooled with Zalmans 9500cu, anyway they are heatsinked dimms...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: British on Thu, 29 July 2010, 07:53:09
Quote from: Ekaros;207441
anyway they are heatsinked dimms...

Which in the end is at best eye-candy, as it doesn't really help performance.
Can't remember where I read an extensive review about that.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 29 July 2010, 09:38:40
Yeah, RAM heatspreaders haven't really been useful since DDR1.  They're purely for looks.  Modern RAM that runs at 1.6V or less doesn't really get very warm.  Hell, my RAM runs at 1.35V, it has no use at all for heatspreaders.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 09:40:49
I wouldn't call heatspreaders useless but anything above your typical simple aluminum plates is a waste.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: gr1m on Thu, 29 July 2010, 09:46:25
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/299/4/

Up to 4MHz gained in overclocking!!!!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 29 July 2010, 09:50:56
Quote from: gr1m;207478
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/299/4/

Up to 4MHz gained in overclocking!!!!


Yeah, and those were DDR1 at 3.4V.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: SidiMye on Thu, 29 July 2010, 10:20:45
Most higher default speed ram comes default with heat spreaders and don't cost much more then normal ram.. I don't see a point in not buying ram with heat spreaders.

Hardware:

GA-P55-UD4 - Intel Core I5 @ 3.9ghz 1.312v - Lapped TRUE120 + nexus PWM fan -  GeIL DDR3 2x2gigs cas 7 1600mhz @ 1488mhz T1 7-7-7-24-54 1.65v  - 260GTX 55nm 216 896mb @700mhz/1404/1200 SLI - Asus Xonar DX - CM HAF 922 - CM Real Power M700 - 2.5 TB hdd storage (3 hdd's non raid) -Zalman zm-mfc1 plus fan controller - SyncMaster 226CW (1680x1050) - Edifier S530D,G15V2,Steelseries 6GV2,G330,Hifi Headphones (some Panasonics, not that expensive though but sounds great) -
Razer Deathadder & Destructor.

You'd think the temps would be high with this system, well its pretty low actually :), ( CPU idles at 39 degrees coretemp average with fans on medium ) the only real heat bringers are the GPU's but they exhaust at the back so its not really a problem except for room temp which of course in turn will increase overall system temp but when ventilated regularly its not a real biggie.

I must say that the Razer Destructor mouse pad has worn out in 8 months of time. though I play everyday for a few hours so thats why.. and the mouse feet of the mouse has been worn out plenty of times. And I have a few scratches on the side panel of my case because of 2 lan party's... its nothing major though.

Otherwise I'm pretty happy with my system, now you might ask me why am I running the ram on lower speeds? well I'm using command rate T1 which improves the speeds by allot, now I haven't tested it with say 1800mhz T2 speed wise but i think its fast enough ATM, haven't had any problems with it. and I'm in this state that I think its pointless to tweak any further with my current system. Prob just going to upgrade a bit in 2 years times with a new SSD and a new GPU, but thats it mostly. I doubt this i5 is going to be old in 4-5 years of time. If it will be well.. lets just say I can always just get another CPU like a 860-70 or its follow up then.

BTW the Edifier S530D rocks (2.1). really nice sound, its pretty HiFi.

Oh and I'm getting low fps in StarCraft 2 with this system, epic fail! ( Shattered Horizon runs on semi max )
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: niplfsh on Thu, 29 July 2010, 10:32:37
Well, I'm not going out of my way to avoid heatspreaders, I'm just saying that they are useless.  Some of these guys put massive heatsinks on the things as if they actually do something and try to charge a price premium for it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: SidiMye on Thu, 29 July 2010, 10:51:59
Hehe yeah, I forgot about those, like the corsair dominator series. or some Thermalright blocks that are connected via heatpipes too "cool" it down. xD
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: bhtooefr on Sat, 31 July 2010, 19:26:37
So I've already put the specs of my big rigs here, now it's time for my "big" rig.

Apple IIGS ROM 3
RAM-GS with 4 megs of RAM (for 5.125 megs total)
Focus IDE controller with 2 gig CF card
SoundMeister stereo digitizer/4.0 output (the sound chip on the IIGS has support for mono digitizing, IIRC, and 4.0 output, but Apple didn't expose it except on a motherboard header that needs a card to use.)
Uther 10 Mbps ethernet card... without a CPU upgrade, it's slow, though. And, no, I can't overclock the CPU, have to get an accelerator with cache onboard.

Oh, and it has a 36.25 watt power supply.

Anyway, my most powerful PSU is under 500 W, IIRC (in a Sun workstation that I never use,) and my actual big rig has a 90 W PSU.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: ThirdLap on Mon, 16 August 2010, 00:55:30
Guess I'll add mine (http://i.imgur.com/Gzqg1.jpg).

AMD Phenom II 720 BE (unlocked to four cores, overclocked from 2.8GHz to 3.7GHz, fully stable)
Corsair H50 with high speed Yate Loons in push pull, ext mount radiator (http://i.imgur.com/sU056.jpg)
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT UD4P
4GB DDR3 1600 Corsair RAM
ATI Radeon 5770 OCed to 950/1250
2x 20" Acer X203H
1.5 TB total storage
MSI DVD-RW optical drive
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750watt PSU
Cooler Master HAF 932

Where the magic happens. (http://i.imgur.com/GuTCG.jpg) Forgive the non-mechanical keyboard, this was from some time back.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sun, 22 August 2010, 08:35:24
Quote from: ThirdLap;212999
Guess I'll add mine (http://i.imgur.com/Gzqg1.jpg).

AMD Phenom II 720 BE (unlocked to four cores, overclocked from 2.8GHz to 3.7GHz, fully stable)
Corsair H50 with high speed Yate Loons in push pull, ext mount radiator (http://i.imgur.com/sU056.jpg)
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT UD4P
4GB DDR3 1600 Corsair RAM
ATI Radeon 5770 OCed to 950/1250
2x 20" Acer X203H
1.5 TB total storage
MSI DVD-RW optical drive
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750watt PSU
Cooler Master HAF 932

Where the magic happens. (http://i.imgur.com/GuTCG.jpg) Forgive the non-mechanical keyboard, this was from some time back.

Your RAM slots are weird... usually RAM is organized as 1,3,2,4 -- rather than 1,2,3,4.

EDIT: You could get four 1 GB sticks, probably would run faster.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 24 August 2010, 19:25:49
Speaking of big rigs...my hard disk sounds like a diesel engine.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 24 August 2010, 20:50:35
i7 930 @ 3.5Ghz
6GB DDR3 1600
Asus P6TSE
eVGA 470 GTX
Corsair Force 120GB SSD
WD Raptor 150GB
WD Blue 1TB
Corsair 620HX
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Wed, 25 August 2010, 01:27:39
Quote from: ripster;216274
Congrats!  You have the slowest rig.

So far I appear to have the fastest if you believe Geekbench. (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11269)  Pretty sad, my build is ancient.

Have you guys tried picking up some tips  from OCN?  :biggrin1:


I think there are people here who have a faster computer (but they don't bother themselves with benchmarks). I bet my old intellistation could beat your PC-compatible.

Quote from: microsoft windows;216270
Speaking of big rigs...my hard disk sounds like a diesel engine.


Listen to my SCSI drives, *those* things sound worse than a diesel truck, jet plane, tractor, and dinosaur combined.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 25 August 2010, 13:04:48
That's just the way old hard disks are. But the one in my Gateway2000 is particularily noisy as well. I can hear it across the basement in my workshop!
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: noctua on Wed, 25 August 2010, 13:35:23
My (old) silent PC: (the keyboard is louder..)

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (2.13 GHz/2048Kb)
2 x 1024MB DDR2 Corsair XMS2 CL 5
GeForce 9600GT (512MB/Passive)
Samsung HD080HJ - 80GB
Lian Li PC G50A
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Manbeardo on Thu, 30 September 2010, 09:05:26
Looks like WhiteRice and I can be nearly identical computer buddies!

My specs:
intel i7 930 @ 2.8GHz (Haven't bothered OCing yet)
Gigabyte GTX 470
Asus P6X58D-E
6GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
intel X25M 80GB SSD
Seagate 7200.12 1TB
hec XP1080 1080W

all inside of a beautiful CM Storm Sniper

Also, I have a Samsung 2233Rz and 3D Vision glasses to go with it.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Co-Op on Thu, 30 September 2010, 09:32:29
Although I'd like to go quad core, I don't have a need at the moment:

Intel E8400 @ 4.05GHz
Abit IP35 Pro
6GB DDR2-1066
ATI HD5870
OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, 100GB (boot drive)
2x 150GB Velociraptors (old raid-0 now used for dumping data)
OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: WhiteRice on Thu, 30 September 2010, 10:20:18
Quote from: Co-Op;228387
Although I'd like to go quad core, I don't have a need at the moment:

Intel E8400 @ 4.05GHz
Abit IP35 Pro
6GB DDR2-1066
ATI HD5870
OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, 100GB (boot drive)
2x 150GB Velociraptors (old raid-0 now used for dumping data)
OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU

No body really needs more than one core. It's a gimmick that's wasted on most people. Unless you run virtual machines,  it's more of an epeen booster.

Quote from: Manbeardo;228383
Looks like WhiteRice and I can be nearly identical computer buddies!

My specs:
intel i7 930 @ 2.8GHz (Haven't bothered OCing yet)
Gigabyte GTX 470
Asus P6X58D-E
6GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
intel X25M 80GB SSD
Seagate 7200.12 1TB
hec XP1080 1080W

all inside of a beautiful CM Storm Sniper

Also, I have a Samsung 2233Rz and 3D Vision glasses to go with it.

I like your style :)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Co-Op on Thu, 30 September 2010, 10:21:34
Quad core helps with the benchmark numbers! ;)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: McLaren on Thu, 30 September 2010, 10:56:35
Stock but decent stuff a little over a year old:

AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 Ghz w/stock cooler
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
GeForce 6900 GT 512mb Low Power (meh - but Linux runs on Nvidia better)

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive
SeaSonic SS-400ET 400W ATX12V V2.2

LIAN LI PC-A06FB Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Acer X233H 23" 1080P display
Logitech MX1100 rodent
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard (sorry - reforming Philistine)

Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit

Dell Mini9 w/2GB aftermarket ram and 32GB ATA Runcore SSD
International vsn of Dell Mini9 keyboard with a little better layout
Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix
Logitech NX80 rodent
Siig Minitouch/Geek Hack Space Saver (GHSS) keyboard
(My portable writing computer)

  -- Bill
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: d2v on Thu, 30 September 2010, 13:31:03
I know that it doesn't belong in this list, but following is the config of the workstation I will use at work in near future - serious hardware for serious purposes

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12701&stc=1&d=1285871402)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 30 September 2010, 13:36:00
Quote from: d2v;228458
I know that it doesn't belong in this list, but following is the config of the workstation I will use at work in near future - serious hardware for serious purposes

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12701&stc=1&d=1285871402)

now that's my kinda workstation. Not my choice of OS though ...
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 30 September 2010, 13:50:46
I upgraded recently:

AMD Phenom II x6 1090T overclocked to 4GHz
4GB Geil DDR3 1066 7-7-7-20
ATi Radeon HD 5870
750GB Hard Drive
2 x 160GB Hard Drive
Blu-ray Drive
Antec 650W PSU
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 30 September 2010, 13:58:07
Nothing special here:

ECS 780GM-A Ultra
Phenom II X4 940 Black at 3.4 ghz with Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer 120mm
8 GB PC6400
WD 640gig Blue
Nvidia 9800GT Low Power (doesn't use the extra pcie power)
Thermaltake 400w ps
Windows 7 64 bit
Two black viewsonic p220f 22" CRT Monitors (got them new a year ago)

Been running like a top for nearly two years now.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Thu, 30 September 2010, 13:58:17
Quote from: timw4mail;228467
I upgraded recently:

AMD Phenom II x6 1090T overclocked to 4GHz
4GB Geil DDR3 1066 7-7-7-20
ATi Radeon HD 5870
750GB Hard Drive
2 x 160GB Hard Drive
Blu-ray Drive
Antec 650W PSU


im likely going for the same CPU, likely minus the oc.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 30 September 2010, 14:18:50
Quote from: instantkamera;228471
im likely going for the same CPU, likely minus the oc.

What's the point of getting a Black Edition CPU if you aren't going to overclock it? Seems like a waste of money.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Thu, 30 September 2010, 15:41:45
Quote from: timw4mail;228489
What's the point of getting a Black Edition CPU if you aren't going to overclock it? Seems like a waste of money.


Black Edition CPU? I never knew Jim Crow got with the nineties.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 30 September 2010, 16:00:29
Quote from: microsoft windows;228527
Black Edition CPU? I never knew Jim Crow got with the nineties.

:crazy:

It's a processor with an unlocked multiplier.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 01 October 2010, 07:26:56
Quote from: timw4mail;228489
What's the point of getting a Black Edition CPU if you aren't going to overclock it? Seems like a waste of money.


Im not so sure you understand economics, then. See, if I were to pay MORE for the same performance as another item, with the only benefit of the higher price being a feature I likely wont use (out of the box, anyway. perhaps I will down the road), then you might have a case.

In reality, it's clocked higher than the 1055T, is still way cheaper than anything similar from intel, and having kept my eye on a sale or two, Im confident I can get it for not too much more than the 1055T (ncix has sales all the time, and great bundle deals too).  "Black edition" is coincidental to the fact that it is their best/fastest proc out of the box. It also leave me room to OC when and IF Im ready.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 01 October 2010, 07:56:22
Quote from: instantkamera;228649
Im not so sure you understand economics, then. See, if I were to pay MORE for the same performance as another item, with the only benefit of the higher price being a feature I likely wont use (out of the box, anyway. perhaps I will down the road), then you might have a case.

In reality, it's clocked higher than the 1055T, is still way cheaper than anything similar from intel, and having kept my eye on a sale or two, Im confident I can get it for not too much more than the 1055T (ncix has sales all the time, and great bundle deals too).  "Black edition" is coincidental to the fact that it is their best/fastest proc out of the box. It also leave me room to OC when and IF Im ready.

It also costs $100 more for what, .2GHz higher clock than the 1055T?
Performance difference is minimal.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 01 October 2010, 08:28:48
Quote from: timw4mail;228657
It also costs $100 more for what, .2GHz higher clock than the 1055T?
Performance difference is minimal.


.4, actually.

and as I mentioned, I wont pay list price, I'll wait for a sale. For example, NCIX had a bundle sale on the 1090T +Asus M4A89GTD (even though Im not a HUGE fan of asus) for 399 the other day. that is ~6 bucks more than the 1055T + same mobo is selling for currently, also as a bundle.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: d2v on Fri, 01 October 2010, 11:37:52
Look (http://ryanbliss.com/santaplease.html) at what Ryan Bliss of Digital Blasphemy fame is eyeing !
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: lam47 on Fri, 01 October 2010, 11:58:51
Mine is the same as it has been for a while.

Phenom 955 black at 3.8
Asus ? I forgot which motherboard I'm using. GPU is in the way of the name.
5870.
4GB Aeon Xtune memory at 1500
Zalman 1000w PSU
Asus Xonar D1 sound card.
Other stuff.
Silverstone FT01 case.

Oh and I have a few different keyboards too.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: darkblader on Fri, 01 October 2010, 15:18:50
Core i7 920 D0
DFI LANparty JR X58-T3H6
ASUS ATi 4870 1Gb
3Gb Kingston 1333Mhz Ram
74Gb Velociraptor
1Tb Hitachi 7K1000.C
CM Storm Scout
Edifier C2 2.1
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Fri, 01 October 2010, 17:10:33
e7200 Core2Duo that doesn't overclock much but isn't that bad after all, cooled by half again a pound of gold-plated copper that woks like an average box cooler except it doesn't cool the other devices
Asus P5Q-E that can't even hold its CMOS if it isn't getting electricity (let alone when you do any overclocking)
2 * 2 GB DDR2/800 memory of the A-DATA Vitesta kind that's kinda shaky and has trouble keeping nominal specs despite being marked as overclockable
Gigabyte ATI HD4850 that's a big joke with Accelero S1 rev. 2 cooling set that can't stay in place even with glue (cord helps to a limited extent)
Samsung F1 640 GB that actually works as intended
Some Asus combo drive that actually works
X-Fi Titanium that actually works but is an OEM chip, but at least provides EAX
Tagan 530 W PSU that wasn't a good deal after all
Coffin-like stiff black box from Chieftec that makes stuff louder than boxless
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 01 October 2010, 20:12:16
Quote from: lam47;228700
Mine is the same as it has been for a while.

Phenom 955 black at 3.8
Asus ? I forgot which motherboard I'm using. GPU is in the way of the name.
5870.
4GB Aeon Xtune memory at 1500
Zalman 1000w PSU
Asus Xonar D1 sound card.
Other stuff.
Silverstone FT01 case.

Oh and I have a few different keyboards too.


Been a while since I've seen you here! How's things going?
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 01 October 2010, 22:06:45
Here's my big rig, oh yeahhh...
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12727&stc=1&d=1285988620)

384 MB of EDO DIMMs, awesome super-fast pentium 1, 2 MB matrox MGA mystique, 10/100 ethernet, two USB, four audio ports, crystal audio etc...

Crystal FM Synthesis is so cool... lovin' the bobby prince on it. Now to find duke nukem II level 7 music...

I'm not crazy, just slightly insane and mildly nostalgic.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sat, 02 October 2010, 00:21:15
I just put my system in a fugly Antec case with a 1200W 80+ Gold Antec HCP-1200 PSU engineering sample.

My system uses 325W at maximum load.

I like good PSUs. :)
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: apex on Sat, 02 October 2010, 01:25:16
Here's my baby:
AMD Phenom II x4 965
ASRock M3A770DE
2X2gb Patriot DDR3 1333MHz
MSI 9800GT
Seagate 250gb
Hitachi 500gb
Corsair VX550W
Acer AL2216 22" LCD
Logitech K120 (membrane) Don't worry, when I have the extra cash I'll go mechanical :)
Microsoft WMO
FUNC Surface 1030
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Resaebiunne on Sat, 02 October 2010, 01:44:41
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE @ 3.65 GHz
WD Velociratpor 300 GB
WD Black 1 TB
Seagate 320 GB
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 GB
Asus M4a79XTD Evo
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600, 2x2 GB
Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Rosewill Wind Knight case
EMU 0404 PCI
Rosewill Xtreme 850 watt PSU
IBM Model M Keyboard
Microsoft WMO 1.1a
Acer H233H Bmid 23" 1080P LCDx2
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: timw4mail on Mon, 04 October 2010, 07:05:16
Quote from: Phaedrus2129;228874
I just put my system in a fugly Antec case with a 1200W 80+ Gold Antec HCP-1200 PSU engineering sample.

My system uses 325W at maximum load.

I like good PSUs. :)

Using that little power out of such a high rated PSU, I bet your power efficiency isn't very good.
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Mon, 04 October 2010, 10:34:10
Quote from: timw4mail;229508
Using that little power out of such a high rated PSU, I bet your power efficiency isn't very good.

Usually you'd be right. But on this power supply, according to the tests done at JonnyGURU, at 122W (slightly higher than my idle usage) it got 80.8% efficiency; at 243W (right around my gaming usage) it gets 88.8%.

I don't care about power usage anyway. What I care about is that between 122W (close to my idle) and 424W the +12V rail droops by 10mV... that is 0.01V. That's a voltage drop smaller than this power supply's maximum ripple readings, which is no easy feat considering the +12V ripple is under 20mV at all times, and around 5-10mV in the range I'll be running at.


In other words, this power supply is as stable as the Canadian shield (more so due to lack of Quebecois).
Title: ****your big rig specs******
Post by: d2v on Mon, 04 October 2010, 23:44:19
If I was running a datacenter with thousands of machines, I'd care for 5% efficiency.