[GB] 1976 - Flashback to the Colors of the 70's (SA Row 3) --- Shipped

[engicoder]

Specialty kit should also have a 1x backspace. That's my only real nitpick.

Have we decided on SA vs DSA yet? I could probably tolerate DSA more than SA if it helps. In fact, let's get a poll going.

Not a problem....will add the 1x Backspace.

SA. It's more in keeping with the 70's aspect of the set. Furthermore, after holding the Nuclear Data Green set in my hands, I believe the semi-matte finish will be more fitting for this set.

[Data]

I came up with a preliminary group of sets. Let me know what you guys think. What am I missing?
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Loving it.  I'm in for a base set, alt gradient, and specialty kit at minimum.

You mentioned doing it in all Row 3 SA at one point.  Is that still the plan?

[engicoder]

You mentioned doing it in all Row 3 SA at one point.  Is that still the plan?

Yes....  suppose I should specify that somewhere

[swill]

I came up with a preliminary group of sets. Let me know what you guys think. What am I missing?
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Looking awesome...  Can we add a blue 1976 1.25 key to the Alternate kit so we can have symmetry on both sides?

I am loving this set.  If you make it in Row3 SA that will make it one of the most epic sets around...  Can we get deep dish homing keys as well?  It makes a pretty big difference IMO.

This is looking sooo good... 

[IvanIvanovich]

I think the base set should be 60% only... make nav+function row an add on kit. Yeah I want to be a CHEAPSKATE! I liked the individual 1 9 7 6 keys from earlier. F4 should be red really.

[unoab]

Looks awesome, I would be in for a TKL set.  And I am with Ivan, an alternate F4 that is red/dark orange just looks right as opposed to the blue one.

[PunksDead]

SA and you couldnt take my money fast enough

[engicoder]

Looking awesome...  Can we add a blue 1976 1.25 key to the Alternate kit so we can have symmetry on both sides?

 Can we get deep dish homing keys as well?  It makes a pretty big difference IMO.

Ooops, another oversight. Thanks!

[engicoder]

I think the base set should be 60% only... make nav+function row an add on kit. Yeah I want to be a CHEAPSKATE! I liked the individual 1 9 7 6 keys from earlier. F4 should be red really.

I thought about this. Need to ask SP if there is a price differential (i.e a set with N keys vs the same set broken into two sets).

Yes, on the F4. I omitted it as I was patterning the set after the original artwork in which the red and orange reach the bottom and the yellow reached the top. I understand where you guys are coming from, so adding it as an extra makes sense.

The "1 9 7 6" set could be an option.

[engicoder]

  I moved the images of the sets to the OP to avoid confusion from reposting the image as it changes or having it buried in the post pages.

[jackalope]

 It seems that I want this set more and more with each mockup. In for base set , primary and alternative gradient kit, slang kit and color kit.

[engicoder]

Curious if their could be a groovy or maybe funkadelic enter key.

Why not. adds a bit of levity. How about "Dyn-o-mite" or "The Man" or "Ten-Four"?

[Joey Quinn]

Really like how this is looking, I assume it will be offered with blanks?

[Oobly]

It seems that I want this set more and more with each mockup. In for base set , primary and alternative gradient kit. 
Curious if their could be a groovy or maybe funkadelic enter key.

Yeah, and where's the "DISCO" key!? I can hear the BeeGees playing in my mind...

I'm not sure it's worth offering the reverse diagonal numpad option, but maybe with a low MOQ on that item it could work as it is in the OP now, but with the addition of the red F4 key as an extra in the base kit I'm also not sure about the alternate stripe kit, I think it will also end up having a lot less orders than the main stripe, but again, could work as a low MOQ, higher initial cost kit.

Great that there are deep dish homing keys and Colemak and Dvorak kits

Can you dig it? That engicoder cat is far out! Gonna get down and boogie with this set. It's all hip in this gig. Keep on truckin'. Oh yeah, slip me some skin. <"you should be daaancin' - ^yeah">


-EDIT: Do you think Isotherm font or the standard modified Gorton would be best for this? Is Isotherm groovy or just too modern / scifi-ish? www.keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/LineFont.pdf

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Curious if their could be a groovy or maybe funkadelic enter key.

Why not. adds a bit of levity. How about "Dyn-o-mite" or "The Man" or "Ten-Four"?

In honor of Thanksgiving: "Jive Turkey"

[Oobly]

May I suggest "GET REAL" for the enter key, "SPLIT" for Esc, "BUMMER" for Backspace and "BOOGIE" for Shift or is that too whimsical?

[JPG]

Just saw this. It looks totally awesome. By far the best I've seen in a long time. I am almost sad that I don't use mx anymore, but my wallet is quite happy!

[engicoder]

Really like how this is looking, I assume it will be offered with blanks?

Yes...blanks of all 5 colors.

[engicoder]

I'm not sure it's worth offering the reverse diagonal numpad option, but maybe with a low MOQ on that item it could work as it is in the OP now, but with the addition of the red F4 key as an extra in the base kit I'm also not sure about the alternate stripe kit, I think it will also end up having a lot less orders than the main stripe, but again, could work as a low MOQ, higher initial cost kit.

I am trying to make this set as flexible as possible. Its not like most two tone kits with mods and alphas, so for now lets let things ride. If we run this through PMK, some sets might not tip but that will be decided by the buyers.  If we do it the old fashioned way, yes, MOQ will have to be considered.

-EDIT: Do you think Isotherm font or the standard modified Gorton would be best for this? Is Isotherm groovy or just too modern / scifi-ish? www.keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/LineFont.pdf

Probably go with Gorton as it would have been closer to fonts used on keyboards at that time.

[Puddsy]

If we're gonna be offering a lot of kits, it's probably better to run this through PMK.

[engicoder]

May I suggest "GET REAL" for the enter key, "SPLIT" for Esc, "BUMMER" for Backspace and "BOOGIE" for Shift or is that too whimsical?

Nice suggestions...they all work pretty well. I will have to coalesce the various work suggestions into a mockup and see people prefer.

[GankIndustries]

May I suggest "GET REAL" for the enter key, "SPLIT" for Esc, "BUMMER" for Backspace and "BOOGIE" for Shift or is that too whimsical?

Nice suggestions...they all work pretty well. I will have to coalesce the various work suggestions into a mockup and see people prefer.

I nominate "JIVE TURKEY" for the enter key.

[00zeRO]

Any thought to incorporating Avocado in the color mix? I know it wouldn't go with the blue, but maybe in lieu of the blue

[Puddsy]

Any thought to incorporating Avocado in the color mix? I know it wouldn't go with the blue, but maybe in lieu of the blue

Considering we're basing this set off of an image, I'm not big up on that idea.

On another note, how about a cyan enter key? That shouldn't be too expensive. Maybe even a whole set of all 4 colors?

[00zeRO]

Considering we're basing this set off of an image, I'm not big up on that idea.

Duly noted, and stricken out.

[Joey Quinn]

Really like how this is looking, I assume it will be offered with blanks?

Yes...blanks of all 5 colors.

Sweet, I'm definitely in!

[engicoder]

OP updated with Color and Slang Kits. Please give me feedback on Slang Kit. What's good, what's lame and what's missing?

[Puddsy]

No righteous?

[engicoder]

No righteous?

That's a long word....what key would you put that on? Right Shift seems like the obvious choice 

[Puddsy]

No righteous?

That's a long word....what key would you put that on? Right Shift seems like the obvious choice 

yessir right shift is righteous

[engicoder]

yessir right shift is righteous

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[longcat]

I'm in on this as well! This set will be sweet in SA's.

[swill]

yessir right shift is righteous

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In the slang kit you should add one at 1.75 units long so it can be used as a short right shift if anyone wants to use this on a Pure layout.

This set is looking great btw.  Good work...

[Puddsy]

In the specialty kit you should add one at 1.75 units long so it can be used as a short right shift if anyone wants to use this on a Pure layout.

FTFY

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Any chance of seeing an Ergodox kit? (with legends or not)

[engicoder]

In the specialty kit you should add one at 1.75 units long so it can be used as a short right shift if anyone wants to use this on a Pure layout.

FTFY

I think he meant "Slang Kit" as the specialty kit already has 1.75u shift. I think he means "RIGHTEOUS" on a 1.75u

[Puddsy]

In the specialty kit you should add one at 1.75 units long so it can be used as a short right shift if anyone wants to use this on a Pure layout.

FTFY

I think he meant "Slang Kit" as the specialty kit already has 1.75u shift. I think he means "RIGHTEOUS" on a 1.75u

Oh

well I'm cool with that if it's not expensive

[engicoder]

Any chance of seeing an Ergodox kit? (with legends or not)

There will be blanks offered, but haven't added an ErgoDox specific set yet.
Here is a couple mockups:

With existing set and blanks



With an ErogDox Kit

[swill]

Any chance of seeing an Ergodox kit? (with legends or not)

There will be blanks offered, but haven't added an ErgoDox specific set yet.
Here is a couple mockups:

With existing set and blanks

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With an ErogDox Kit

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That ergodox set is pretty sick.  The standard is pretty awesome on an ergodox too (for the non-symmetrical look).

[engicoder]

OP updated to add ErgoDox base and reverse gradient

[Data]

Any chance of seeing an Ergodox kit? (with legends or not)

There will be blanks offered, but haven't added an ErgoDox specific set yet.
Here is a couple mockups:

With existing set and blanks

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With an ErogDox Kit

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Heh, that worked out much better than I imagined.  I wasn't even considering this set for Ergodox.

[hjc1710]

So much win in this GB... Very heavily interested. Good work all around so far.

Might want to change your sig though engicoder, it still calls the buy the "Garish Chocolatey Brown Set", give this set the proper sexy title it deserves!

[Oobly]

Schweeet! This set is looking better all the time! Nice work engicoder! The slang and ergodox kits are awesome.

[engicoder]

Question for the ErgoDox folks:

The ErgoDox sets are mocked up in the OP using blanks for all the non-alphas keys. Are there specific legends that are commonly used that should be included? Looking around there was a lot of variation among ErgoDox layouts, so it seems questionable to include any that would add cost but not be useful for the majority of buyers.

The Deep Space GB had the following kit:


Any of these seem good, or should we stick with blanks?

[n0rvig]

So down with this! Make it happen! Boogie!

[Zebadule]

Question for the ErgoDox folks:

The ErgoDox sets are mocked up in the OP using blanks for all the non-alphas keys. Are there specific legends that are commonly used that should be included? Looking around there was a lot of variation among ErgoDox layouts, so it seems questionable to include any that would add cost but not be useful for the majority of buyers.

The Deep Space GB had the following kit:
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Any of these seem good, or should we stick with blanks?

It's fairly common for the non-alpha keys to include those caps. The layouts can be very different, but as long as the set is all R3, then people have the freedom to re-arrange as needed (but you'd probably need to go with a single color, which means the same style of stripe wouldn't work). If you run it, definitely make sure that blanks are available too.

Other ErgoDox comments:

• ErgoDox sets seem to have smaller order numbers on average, so adding multiple hand color options may make it harder for the sets to tip.
• The reverse-stripe ErgoDox kit isn't Colemak compatible, but is my favorite.

Edit: Took a look at the sets again, changed comments a bit.

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Question for the ErgoDox folks:

The ErgoDox sets are mocked up in the OP using blanks for all the non-alphas keys. Are there specific legends that are commonly used that should be included? Looking around there was a lot of variation among ErgoDox layouts, so it seems questionable to include any that would add cost but not be useful for the majority of buyers.

The Deep Space GB had the following kit:
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Any of these seem good, or should we stick with blanks?

In my opinion, the Granite ergodox set felt very inclusive of options:


The only difficulty is that the inside column is brown and the outside column is 'cyan'. I don't want to say you shouldn't add legends, because it would be pretty awesome, but I'm not sure the resulting kit would be flexible enough for many different layouts.

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I agree with Zebadule, I don't think the ergodox set can be split into two separate parts. At the moment, EVE only has like 10 ergodox kit orders and Deep Space has about 10 as well.

[engicoder]

• ErgoDox sets seem to have smaller order numbers on average, so adding multiple hand color options may make it harder for the sets to tip.
• The reverse-stripe ErgoDox kit isn't Colemak compatible, but is my favorite.

I suppose the asymmetric layout on the ErgoDox probably doesn't have the same effect as on a straight board, given that the two hands may be separated and at an angle, so the all brown would be the one to eliminate.
As far as Dvorak and Colemak, if the ErgoDox numbers are small, these two will have even less interest. These folks may have to make do with the standard Dvorak/Colemak kits plus blanks.

[engicoder]

In my opinion, the Granite ergodox set felt very inclusive of options:

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The only difficulty is that the inside column is brown and the outside column is 'cyan'. I don't want to say you shouldn't add legends, because it would be pretty awesome, but I'm not sure the resulting kit would be flexible enough for many different layouts.

If we eliminated the all brown right hand, then most of the 1.5u keys would be blue and the 2u would be brown. The 4 inner 1.5u would be the only real sacrifice.

Question is whether include blanks in the base kit and have these caps with legends as an add-on or vice versa, where the blanks would be add-on and the caps with legends included in the base kit.

[Data]

Man, I think it's going to be super difficult to get a proper Ergodox kit on this set.     The color stripe just adds too many variables.