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Keyboardio Kickstarter is NOW + Meetups in 23 cities
« on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 01:57:23 »

I'm thrilled to

http://keyboard.io/kickstarter


We're spending June and July driving about 9000 miles and hosting meetups in 23 cities across North America. We'll have prototype Model 01 keyboards to play with, as well as lots and lots of stickers. We've started to reach out to hackerspaces and companies along our route who might be able to host us and should have locations to announce by next Monday. The plan for each stop is to let folks check out the Model 01, maybe give a talk about how to build your own keyboard or your own keyboard startup, and hang out!

Essentially, we're bringing a little bit of KeyCon to cities all across the US and Canada. We'll be making the meetup signup URLs public when we launch the campaign next week, but for now, our mailing list and GH are getting first crack at RSVPs.

Boston, MassachusettsTue, 16 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-cambridge-ma-17313110981
New York, New YorkWed, 17 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-new-york-ny-17315220290
Philadelphia, PennsylvaniaThu, 18 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-philadelphia-17315234332
Washington, District of ColumbiaThu, 18 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-beltway-insider-edition-17315309557
Durham, North CarolinaFri, 19 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-durham-17315337641
Louisville, KentuckySat, 20 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-louisville-17315360710
Akron, OhioSun, 21 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-akron-17315507148
Toronto, Ontario (at Matias)Mon, 22 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-toronto-17315523196
Ann Arbor, MichiganTue, 23 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-ann-arbor-17315539244
Chicago, IllinoisWed, 24 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-chicago-17315588391
Saint Louis, MissouriThu, 25 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-saint-louis-17315976552
Dallas, TexasSat, 27 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-dallas-17315986582
Austin, TexasSun, 28 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-austin-17316021687
Denver, ColoradoTue, 30 Jun 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-denver-17316191194
Albuquerque, New MexicoWed, 1 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-albuquerque-17316204233
Phoenix, ArizonaThu, 2 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-phoenix-17316214263
Las Vegas, NevadaFri, 3 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-las-vegas-17316266419
Los Angeles, CaliforniaSun, 5 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-los-angeles-17316280461
Eugene, OregonWed, 8 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-eugene-oregon-17316303530
Seattle, WashingtonThu, 9 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-seattle-17316308545
Vancouver, British ColumbiaFri, 10 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-vancouver-bc-17316313560
Portland, OregonSat, 11 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-portland-or-17316321584
San Francisco, CaliforniaMon, 13 Jul 2015https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-san-francisco-17316336629
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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 01:59:25 »
I'd try to make the one in Ann Arbor, but unfortunately, I start my new job next week and probably won't be able to get it off. Safe travels!
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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 05:19:56 »
I want to try to go to the ny one.

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 05:23:04 »
Financially the worst possible time for the kickstarter for me. XD

Time to see if I can move those boards I'm not using.
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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:27:02 »
**** Florida right?

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:31:42 »
Bummed I can't make either the NY or Philly one sadly as I will be working.

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 12:31:06 »
**** Florida right?

If we could have made it work, we would have been there. :/
As it is, we're driving nearly 9000 miles in 3 and a half weeks.
We went from responses to our mailing list survey, Google Analytics and geocoding the 6500 people on the mailing list.

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 12:45:19 »
Ahh was hoping for some .eu visits, guess those aren't in the budget :P
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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:26:24 »
this means that we are finally see more of the model 01??? What i like to see is:

- the tenting mechanism (so far is a real mistery)
- full split mode (if there is one)
- a video showing someone typing (can you rest your hands on the wood?? does the palm button get in the way??)
- the "any" button in action!
- and most important, can i just buy one rigth now??? (screw the kickstarter!, give an expensive hand made model  ;D)

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:36:40 »
I'm shocked that Winnipeg isn't on the tour  ;)

This should be an interesting board.   It's certainly pretty.
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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:39:45 »
this means that we are finally see more of the model 01??? What i like to see is:

- the tenting mechanism (so far is a real mistery)
- full split mode (if there is one)
- a video showing someone typing (can you rest your hands on the wood?? does the palm button get in the way??)
- the "any" button in action!
- and most important, can i just buy one rigth now??? (screw the kickstarter!, give an expensive hand made model  ;D)

Regards!

Photo shoot is tomorrow :)

Tenting: You'll see what we have today. We're redesigning for production. (Going back to what we did for an earlier prototype. Not happy with it yet.)
Full split mode: https://twitter.com/keyboardio/status/579067010757177345 (More pix coming.)
Video showing someone typing: We'll have stills for the campaign, but 'somebody typing' videos creep me out a lot. I'm sure someone will shoot one at a meetup.
Any key: Right now, it's not mapped. We're waiting for you to map it to something :)
Buy one now: You missed your chance. We asked folks on the mailing list to tell us if they wanted (very) expensive hand-made units six months ago. There just aren't enough to go around. :/


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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:40:32 »
I'm shocked that Winnipeg isn't on the tour  ;)

This should be an interesting board.   It's certainly pretty.

The friend in Winnipeg we've been meaning to visit is going to be in LA for the summer :/

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:14:01 »
Awesome guys!

Been waiting for the kickstarter project and here it is.

But what is most amazing, the tour! Thinking, argghhh bummer, US coast to coast to, no chance they'll visit Canada and if so, gonna be somewhere far away that'll need a 4 hour flight. But no!!!!!! at Matias in Newmarket Ontario. 5 min. away! Can't believe it.

Told my wife today we'lll be going to our first keyboard show/presentation June 22nd :) Hope to see you guys soon and can't wait to try it out!
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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:23:22 »
Hmmm, thanks from Florida?
I'm back.

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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:37:30 »
**** Florida right?

If we could have made it work, we would have been there. :/
As it is, we're driving nearly 9000 miles in 3 and a half weeks.
We went from responses to our mailing list survey, Google Analytics and geocoding the 6500 people on the mailing list.

Google Anal-tics my ass. People have been persecuting us Floridians ever since the 2000 election.

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 10 June 2015, 00:44:43 »
I'll try and go up to the Seattle meetup for sure!

It sounds pretty interesting.

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 10 June 2015, 06:20:54 »

**** Florida right?

If we could have made it work, we would have been there. :/
As it is, we're driving nearly 9000 miles in 3 and a half weeks.
We went from responses to our mailing list survey, Google Analytics and geocoding the 6500 people on the mailing list.

Google Anal-tics my ass. People have been persecuting us Floridians ever since the 2000 election.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 11 June 2015, 15:04:44 »
Is there any plan to offer a different case? The board looks amazing but I think a lot of people are not huge fans of the butterfly shape...

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 11 June 2015, 17:30:39 »
Is there any plan to offer a different case? The board looks amazing but I think a lot of people are not huge fans of the butterfly shape...

We'll be making the mountings specs public, so folks can craft aftermarket cases they love.

As a bit of background, it actually came out of needing a curved guard around the top keys and wanting to provide generous palmrests that don't bite into your hand. The butterfly design was a happy accident. Most folks we've talked to love it, but of course, no one keyboard is perfect for everyone.

I'd love to know more about what you don't like about the design and what you'd design to replace it if you had a free hand.

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is June 15 + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:02:45 »
Is there any plan to offer a different case? The board looks amazing but I think a lot of people are not huge fans of the butterfly shape...

We'll be making the mountings specs public, so folks can craft aftermarket cases they love.

As a bit of background, it actually came out of needing a curved guard around the top keys and wanting to provide generous palmrests that don't bite into your hand. The butterfly design was a happy accident. Most folks we've talked to love it, but of course, no one keyboard is perfect for everyone.

I'd love to know more about what you don't like about the design and what you'd design to replace it if you had a free hand.

Best,
Jesse

The problem is it looks like a butterfly.

The original prototype struck a perfect balance between wood and metal so that it looked looked more like a mechanical object



Another example of mixed wood and metal




Currently, there are no hard angles to complement the soft curves, so it looks like a really expensive salad bowl from Whole Foods.

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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 12 June 2015, 13:42:45 »
But I like the butterfly.

I want to get one and like... Get it painted like one of those blue iridescent butterflies. That'd be awesome.
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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 10:59:30 »
Ok. The kickstarter has launched. I rsvp'ed. But, I still don't know where to go. Lol!

Any ideas?

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:09:12 »
Still sorting out meetup venues :/ What city?

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:21:52 »
The typing parts in the video looks really awkward to me, with the keyboard looking very large and big spacing between fingers, but that might just be the video (or a person with small hands), so I'm looking forward to hearing geekhackers opinions on how the keyboard feels (europe here  :(). Other than that I'm very hyped and have been following the project almost since the start - backed it already in hopes of deletaging my TECK to secondary keyboard and stop using my Das (staggered rows, nty!)

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:28:30 »
Truth be told, the nice victim being filmed in the video had never before laid hands on a Model 01, but it was the last minute and we needed typing footage.

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:38:41 »
I'd love to go to one of the Texas meetups, but both Austin and Dallas are over 300 miles from where I live. Texas so big. :(

Pledged for my Model 01, though. It's happening!
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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:42:43 »
Just backed the kickstarter campaign! they are getting close to the goal really really fast! (just passed the 100.000 USD limit)

are there other proyects that could be added if the campaign exceeds expectation??? maybe custom keycaps or alternative layouts (colemak, dvorak, spanish, german, uk, etc)???

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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:45:45 »
Going to try and make it to the Philly meet!
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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:16:47 »
Still sorting out meetup venues :/ What city?
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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:24:28 »
Going to try and make it to the Philly meet!

Entirely worth it.  Great keyboard to see in person.
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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:30:07 »
Just made the goal!
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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:35:26 »
Just made the goal!

Gratz, obra! I'm in for the Model 01 as well.

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 14:42:24 »
Yay! Thank you all soo much!

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 23:43:13 »
Truth be told, the nice victim being filmed in the video had never before laid hands on a Model 01, but it was the last minute and we needed typing footage.

That explains it! Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 01:34:33 »
Awesome job guys, you made a  truly gorgeous keyboard. It looks like something Moog would make. It makes me sad its totally out of my budget but someday, someday I'll get one of those keyboards to Mexico and feel all that wood on my tortilla bending hands.

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 01:35:07 »
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.
++

I’d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.

Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what’s happening on screen.

Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.

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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:29:01 »
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.
++

I�d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.

Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what�s happening on screen.

Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.

That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?

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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:35:38 »
Who's coming out to Louisville to chill with me and the keyboardio crew? I'll be the Saturday

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 15:21:02 »
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.
++

I�d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.

Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what�s happening on screen.

Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.

That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?

It's not generally doable without remapping. I've actually recently tried to use half a split(but otherwise ANSI) keyboard for gaming to give feedback on doing just that for a company and found most control schemes ended up using at least *something* from the other side of the board.

But remapping does make that somewhat trivial as long as enough keys are present, whether in game(assuming normal scancodes are being sent) or out of game. Some games you're not going to get everything there's a key for on one side(The Neverwinter MMO, which I play, for example, uses almost every single alpha key to bring up *something*, and most of the numbers besides.)

Split keyboards for gaming are nice though. Bring the mouse in closer, get the half you're using at just the right angle and tilt without stabbing yourself in the gut with your keyboard.
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 15:44:13 »
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.
++

I�d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.

Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what�s happening on screen.

Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.

That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?

It's not generally doable without remapping. ...

Oh, no, I just meant the video recording thing

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Re: Keyboardio Kickstarter is NOW + Meetups in 23 cities
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:12:40 »
Congratulations on the reaching your fundraising goal. I'm a bit surprised by the low cost for getting a keyboard with all of the features you're building into it. Will that be the retail price as well?

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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:14:04 »
That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?
Nothing I can think of off-hand.

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:21:38 »
I'm predicting it right now...

This campaign will raise $1M+
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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:31:46 »
Congratulations on the reaching your fundraising goal. I'm a bit surprised by the low cost for getting a keyboard with all of the features you're building into it. Will that be the retail price as well?

We're not committing to a retail/street price until we have units manufactured. At this price, we're confident that we can make the keyboards as nicely as they deserve to be made. The 120k goal is what we needed to hit for that to be true. It is not, of course, the goal we'd need to hit to be able to pay ourselves even minimum wage. We've costed out the production at various volumes and have a sense of where the sweet spots are. Making our own keys is incredibly expensive in low volumes because we need to make injection molds. But at high volumes, the per-unit cost is so low that it's much, much less expensive than buying someone else's caps.

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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:33:33 »
I'm predicting it right now...

This campaign will raise $1M+

That would make us very happy. Of course, we're happy just making people good keyboards.
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« Reply #46 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:56:49 »
Oh, no, I just meant the video recording thing

I've shot videos with my Samsung S5 and my Olympus EPL3 camera. I could do a typing video on Saturday if you don't mind obra.

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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:07:08 »
I'd try to make the one in Ann Arbor, but unfortunately, I start my new job next week and probably won't be able to get it off. Safe travels!
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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:40:34 »
The ny location fell through?

That sucks.

I'll just follow the website and hopefully something comes through at the last minute.

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« Reply #49 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 23:26:34 »
I went to the meet-up in Somerville, MA tonight. I like the keyboard, for the most part. I think the contours of the existing keycaps are a bit too much, but Jesse did say at the meet-up that they're still working on finalizing the keycaps. I really love the palm keys and their usage as momentary layer switch (I wonder if I could mod my ErgoDox to have these keys).

One thing I did suggest to Jesse was to put a set (three) of tripod-compat threaded holes on the bottom on each half. This way, those holes could be used with the mating plate with captured screws to form a single unit. The keyboard could include a flat plate and tented plate, like it does right now. Additionally, it would be nice if they could also include a couple "stands" that would screw into those threaded holes for "split and tented". And those same threaded holes would allow small tripods to be used for more adjustability, much like the Matias Ergo Pro.

I have some small qualms with the logical layout/placement of some of the keys, but all that can be changed with the firmware, so I'm not super concerned about it. I think getting the physical layout correct is more important, and Jesse is very close, in my opinion.
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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:10:16 »
Hopefully I can see y'all (...er, you) in Austin on the 28th. It's my wife's birthday so forgive me if I cannot make it.

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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:44:16 »
I'll be at the Louisville meet this Saturday. I've already RSVP'ed on the meetup page and I posted an invitation in offtopic a day or two ago.
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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 17 June 2015, 23:11:13 »
Congrats on hitting the mark! It is just one of many with this :)

I played with the prototype at one of the SF meetups, that was a highpoint.

Outstanding methodology with the criss-crossing of 'merica, and promoting the GH way. I'm jelly.

Good luck with the trip and take/post pics in a dedicated thread!
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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:26:10 »
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.
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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 12:26:37 »
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.

Amazingly, there are six people who bought a $1000 mahogany board and 883 non-mahogany boards that were sold.  :eek:
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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 13:32:30 »
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.

I'm not really sure why you would want to swap them out... every cap on that board is custom sculpted, that's one of it's coolest features!

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 17:54:52 »
Tomorrow. Louisville. 1600 EST. You. Obra. The butterfly keyboard. Who's gonna show up? I'll probably drag some boards along with me. Maybe we'll go to the Barcade after. Maybe there will be ice cream. Let's hang out and tell Obra how it should've been a heart, not a butterfly.

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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:14:49 »
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.

I'm not really sure why you would want to swap them out... every cap on that board is custom sculpted, that's one of it's coolest features!

Will he have blank sets available for those who will want to reconfigure their layouts?

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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:51:26 »
If a jd40 or 45 wasn't on my current list of must haves then this would be very tempting.   This looks like it is going to generate a lot of orders.   The custom molded key caps are really interesting.

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:06:15 »
I'll be there. I've got a Model F, Das Pro S, Rapoo V500, AEK II, M0116, Fujitsu, and Focus FK-2001. Not sure which I'm going to bring though.
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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 22:40:16 »
I'll be there. I've got a Model F, Das Pro S, Rapoo V500, AEK II, M0116, Fujitsu, and Focus FK-2001. Not sure which I'm going to bring though.

I'm curious about that Rapoo board. Anything of mine you'd like me to bring?

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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:35:33 »
There's nothing that I'm really all that interested in other than trying out Topre. I really want to see if the hype lives up to its name.  :p I'm thinking of bringing the Rapoo, the Model F, and the Fujitsu.
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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:37:44 »
I'll bring a Topre board and some Alps stuff then :).

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« Reply #63 on: Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:41:56 »
Who's coming out to Ann Arbor on Tuesday? It starts late enough that I can make it out after work. I'll more than likely take my Kingsaver and RF10AE if people are coming out/interested
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« Reply #64 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 15:59:10 »
Anyone here coming to the Austin, TX meetup?

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« Reply #65 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 16:25:44 »


Out here in Louisville playing keyboards again!

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« Reply #66 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 17:50:33 »
Great to see everyone in Louisville today!  :thumb:

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« Reply #67 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 18:32:24 »
tfw I missed the only keyboard convention that will ever take place in North Carolina.

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« Reply #68 on: Tue, 23 June 2015, 00:09:00 »
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.

I'm not really sure why you would want to swap them out... every cap on that board is custom sculpted, that's one of it's coolest features!

Will he have blank sets available for those who will want to reconfigure their layouts?

Yes. We're working on custom laser-engraved sets, too.
We're not sure about pricing yet, but it should, hopefully, be surprisingly attractive.

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« Reply #69 on: Tue, 23 June 2015, 01:12:35 »
Where have you been all my life.

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« Reply #70 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:32:21 »
Obra, I was wondering why you'd only put 4 thumb keys on the keyboard and not 5?
See:



Those 2 extra keys on the thumb "row" are easily reached* and it would be so cool to have an extra layer key, or any kind of key, on that row.

* If we take a regular keyboard for instance, a touch typist can still comfortably reach the left Alt key using his left thumb. The left Alt key, compared to the modified Model 01 image above, is even farther away from the thumb without leaving the home row. Similarly, the Ergodox has only four comfortable thumb keys, you can see that they're almost as far away from the thumb as the alt key of a regular keyboard:



My question is, what was your reasoning against putting that extra key? There's plenty of space, looks like it would perfectly fit in there...

I hope it wasn't because of aesthetics or that the number of keys had to be a exponentiation with base 2.
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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:35:03 »
Obra, I was wondering why you'd only put 4 thumb keys on the keyboard and not 5?
See:

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Those 2 extra keys on the thumb "row" are easily reached* and it would be so cool to have an extra layer key, or any kind of key, on that row.

* If we take a regular keyboard for instance, a touch typist can still comfortably reach the left Alt key using his left thumb. The left Alt key, compared to the modified Model 01 image above, is even farther away from the thumb. Similarly, the Ergodox has only four comfortable thumb keys, you can see that they're almost as far away from the thumb as the alt key of a regular keyboard:

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My question is, what was your reasoning against putting that extra key? There's plenty of space, looks like it would perfectly fit in there...

I hope it wasn't because of aesthetics or that the number of keys had to be a exponentiation with base 2.

I don't think space is the issue... I think it's just the ergonomics and position of the keys.
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« Reply #72 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:44:22 »
Obra, I was wondering why you'd only put 4 thumb keys on the keyboard and not 5?
See:

Show Image


Those 2 extra keys on the thumb "row" are easily reached* and it would be so cool to have an extra layer key, or any kind of key, on that row.

* If we take a regular keyboard for instance, a touch typist can still comfortably reach the left Alt key using his left thumb. The left Alt key, compared to the modified Model 01 image above, is even farther away from the thumb. Similarly, the Ergodox has only four comfortable thumb keys, you can see that they're almost as far away from the thumb as the alt key of a regular keyboard:

Show Image


My question is, what was your reasoning against putting that extra key? There's plenty of space, looks like it would perfectly fit in there...

I hope it wasn't because of aesthetics or that the number of keys had to be a exponentiation with base 2.

I don't think space is the issue... I think it's just the ergonomics and position of the keys.

That's what I've been trying to say. That extra key would still be comfortable. Thus, it would be ergonomic.

I made a mistake there. Comfortability does not necessarily equal Ergonomy.

Regarding the keyboardio, I do not think there'd be any problem though.

To be completely honest, I have not tried out the Model 01 personally, nor have I ever used an Ergodox (I have been saving money for it actually, until the Model 01 has been announced, which I plan on getting now instead of the Ergodox).

However, I did print out a 1:1 scale on paper of the Ergodox and played around with it (a lot). Those 4 thumb keys (see the previous Ergodox image) are fairly reachable.

That fifth key on the Model 01 would still be far better off than those of the Ergodox, in terms of comfortable position. That is what I believe.
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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 24 June 2015, 14:15:28 »
We had a 5th key on a number of the prototypes. We actually had six on a few. We couldn't get them positioned comfortably for most users. Even 4 is too much of a stretch for some folks with 19mm spacing. (We'll be tightening up the arc some for production.)

There's also the side issue that it's a lot easier to distinguish 4 keys by feel than 5.

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 16:43:01 »
We had a 5th key on a number of the prototypes. We actually had six on a few. We couldn't get them positioned comfortably for most users. Even 4 is too much of a stretch for some folks with 19mm spacing. (We'll be tightening up the arc some for production.)

There's also the side issue that it's a lot easier to distinguish 4 keys by feel than 5.

Good. I trust you to do the right thing.

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 26 June 2015, 09:08:19 »
http://hypebeast.com/2015/6/the-model-01-redefines-the-typing-experience

Look what I stumbled upon. Turns out there's no mention of mechanical switches in the video.

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 11:53:31 »
Those comments make me cringe.  :(
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« Reply #77 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 12:57:30 »
Those comments make me cringe.  :(

Never read the comments.

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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:52:09 »
After seeing the first 2 days of kickstart results, my estimate was that you’d hit 1500–2000 keyboards preordered by the end. Looks like you’re right on track, at about ~1350 so far. Hope you see a surge in the last couple days, but either way looks like it should be enough orders to at least cover costs and not bankrupt anyone.

Then hopefully production goes smoothly, people get their keyboards faster than expected and rave reviews start coming in, and you can make some profit on v1.1, with the keycap tooling and much of the other design/development work all paid for. :-)

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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:45:29 »
Congrats to Obra and Kaia for a successful Kickstarter backing!! It was wonderful to finally meet you both and talk keyboards and barbeque! Can't wait to see how much people love their Model 01s and for me to play with my screwdriver :D

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:54:23 »
Wow.  Great to see the Kickstarter succeeded.  Congrats.  Is this the highest funding for a keyboard yet?
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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:55:05 »
Thanks, guys!

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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 19:17:59 »
Those comments make me cringe.  :(

Never read the comments.

Just read the sales numbers.
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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 10:12:05 »
Congrats again guys! These are going to be awesome. ...Especially the clicky ones. XD
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