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Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 10:39:29 »
Tp4 is impacted dramatically by this as a poor person.

Buhhhhh.... it's going to hurt capitalism even more in their rapidly dying downtown buildups.

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 12:30:44 »
People need to vote with their wallet. Every time you turn a blind eye and vote with your dollars telling companies that these bull**** models are ok, they get emboldened. The value of a good doesn't change because of the time of day. A burger isn't worth more because it's supper time. Stop giving your money to these greedy ****s who do nothing but use math and science to remove your money from you in the most effective way possible.

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 12:49:42 »
Learn skills. Buy things you can keep. Learn to fix what you have and be ok with not having everything you dream about.

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 14:26:27 »
Seems like an excellent idea to me. I hate traffic jams, and if this cuts down on useless rubber-necking I am for it.

Fortunately I have not driven a car in NYC in decades and probably will not do so ever again in my lifetime.
Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 18:53:48 »
It is going to prevent people who cannot afford to live in the city but work in the city from commuting to work. Parking fees are already absolutely absurd.
Yet another way to gouge to poor. This country is straight up sick.

When there is no one left to work in their factories and pour their coffee, only then will they notice.

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 06 January 2025, 18:58:18 »

people who cannot afford to live in the city but work in the city


Between subway fares and parking, it is probably more expensive to drive and park.
Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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Re: Congestion Pricing (Toll daytime surcharge)
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 07 January 2025, 12:49:53 »
It is going to prevent people who cannot afford to live in the city but work in the city from commuting to work. Parking fees are already absolutely absurd.
Yet another way to gouge to poor. This country is straight up sick.

When there is no one left to work in their factories and pour their coffee, only then will they notice.

most people going in to lower manhattan use public transit lol

also, poor people are disproportionately without cars...