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The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« on: Sat, 15 February 2025, 15:47:17 »
I will start with this one that I ran across recently:

"In his interview with Don Lemon, Musk claims to have used ketamine at least on a monthly basis, perhaps more. He claims his ketamine was prescribed by a “real doctor” and that he typically takes micro-doses of the drug, which would be about 0.1 to 0.2 mg ketamine/kg body weight if administered intravenously, roughly  a 10 mg dose; this would be about 10-20% of the dose required for human anesthesia.  Musk has admitted to trying larger doses occasionally.

We have no reliable information about the frequency, dosage, or route of administration associated with Musk’s actual ketamine use. Tolerance to ketamine builds quickly, and repeat users tend to progress towards higher doses over time.

Ketamine, a dissociative anesthetic, was originally synthesized in the 1960s. Even today it is used to immobilize animals in veterinary medicine, and in human anesthesia, where it has the significant benefit of not being a respiratory depressant like most other anesthetics. Ketamines are structurally and functionally related to phencyclidine (PCP or “angel dust”). Both drugs act in the brain as blockers at the NMDA type of glutamate receptor, which is an obligatory participant of many molecular processes critical for learning and memory.

This receptor blockade is activity-dependent, which means that the particular NMDA receptors being used by the brain at the time of ketamine exposure are blocked preferentially over the inactive ones. The main difference between the street drug PCP and the pharmaceutical ketamine is that PCP interacts more strongly with the receptor, so the effects last much longer, and side effects develop faster.

The negative effects of acute ketamine use are also borne out in the streets or in clubs, where unknown doses and formulations of ketamine are taken by various routes of administration. The negative effects of high-dose ketamine are well established. If one wishes his brain to function optimally, the K-hole is not be a good place to visit frequently. While it is difficult to overdose fatally on ketamine, the cases of Matthew Perry and others illustrate how this can occur in some circumstances.

Perhaps worse are the chronic effects of dissociative anesthetic use. In animal models and in humans, ketamine unequivocally causes damage to the brain, kidneys, and urinary tract and it negatively affects thinking processes. Ketamine literally reduces the amount of brain gray matter, leading to outward neurological symptoms, such as slurred speech. Such changes can occur even in people using sub-anesthetic doses chronically. With repeated ketamine use, some of the changes to the body can become irreversible."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview/index.html
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 15 February 2025, 19:04:52 »
Honestly brain damage would explain a lot. I genuinely feel like he's trying to make the earth uninhabitable so he can colonise mars. There are multiple Bond villains with essentially the same idea.
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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 15 February 2025, 19:48:46 »
A drug addicted non-American billionaire who has zero government experience and was not elected in any way, is dismantling and controlling the American government.

I cannot even comprehend how this is being allowed to happen. It seems both extremely treasonous, illegal, and openly corrupt. This is not how checks and balances work.
What sort of precedent does it set that if you ignore laws, rules, and regulations people allow you to get away with it?

I can only assume some agency somewhere is just getting their cards in order before dropping the hammer. No one can catch wind of the investigation until it is 100% ready to go and will 100% be carried through with. It is the only thing that makes any sense, other than accepting my country and government has given up and is allowing a foreign private power to take control of the United States. Only thing that makes any sense, because what is happening is pure science fiction.
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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 15 February 2025, 20:00:59 »
You guys spend 0 time around old rich people to think that he's uniquely "like that".

They're ALL like this. Tp4 can confidently say 95+%, regardless of affiliation. The only political party in America is the Business Party.

What you're witnessing is a Shuffling of WHO gets fat on Tax embezzlement.

Nothing else has changed. <This> in itself is the scariest thing of all,  NO climate action, NO eat 100% veggies, NOTHING is being done about Anything that matters. 

All these guys are heavily medicated.


Our last and only hope was Bernie.   
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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 15 February 2025, 20:13:04 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 15 February 2025, 19:48:46

this is being allowed to happen.

treasonous

not how checks and balances work.

some agency somewhere


(1) it is being encouraged to happen

(2) "treason" is a very specific definition of a crime by an American to assist an enemy during war time

(3) checks and balances are rendered irrelevant when the entireity of our government is under a single iron hand

(4) see above. there are no longer any agencies that answer to a superior authority not under the control of MAGA

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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 15 February 2025, 20:25:57 »
Well, if you truly believe all that then make sure you stock up on bullets and water filters. Historically, human beings have never stood by while similar events unfolded. 100% of the time we have risen up and taken down the oppressors with violence.

Just be sure to fight when the time comes. I feel like too many people these days talk the talk, then stand passively by while their core values are dismantled right in front of them. So many are emotionally fatigued, when what we need is anger and action.
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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 16 February 2025, 08:19:04 »
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 16 February 2025, 10:13:55 »
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 18 February 2025, 09:39:12 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 15 February 2025, 19:48:46

how checks and balances work


Let's see whether there is any decency remaining in the Judiciary.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277337/gov.uscourts.dcd.277337.1.0.pdf



Along with this gem:

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5143824-elon-musk-sam-altman-openai-bid/

TL;DR   Musk, in a statement shared with The Hill, said it is “time for OpenAI to return to the open-source, safety-focused force for good it once was.”   
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 19 February 2025, 09:22:30 »
nice and concise

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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 19 February 2025, 21:01:38 »
In a joint interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity on Tuesday night, President Donald Trump said that he would allow Elon Musk to police himself on conflicts of interest and other possible corruption while leading the Department of Government Efficiency.

“If there’s a conflict, he won’t be involved,” Trump said, without explaining who — other than Musk — would be empowered to determine if a conflict of interest exists. Musk added that he was “getting a sort of daily proctology exam” and that his actions are being scrutinized.

But Musk and Trump also attempted to deflect criticism of DOGE’s egregious activities and promoted the conspiracy that there is an “unelected bureaucracy” running the country that DOGE has been uncovering.
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 25 February 2025, 05:46:29 »
BTW, I think we should all start pronouncing "DOGE" as dodge-e, if we don't already do.

It is only consistent with the sound of 'G' when spelling out the acronym.

D. O. G. E  — DOGE
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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 25 February 2025, 09:39:43 »
Friend sent this one this morning, epic xD .

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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 04 March 2025, 11:30:26 »
The longer this goes on, the more the once "crazed" theory, that it's a Democrat psyops to deliberately anger the American people enough to get them to send American Troops, looks plausible.

Farmer's boys headed to the grinder??

Thoughts?
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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 05 March 2025, 15:07:23 »
From the final chapter of the Musk biography by Walter Isaacson.

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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 07 March 2025, 09:06:05 »
Ze13n5k>ee will probably have to crown himself king, or else they'll kill him in the coup.

If he cares about the people he should step down, or at the very least surrender immediately.
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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 07 March 2025, 09:35:00 »
Just watched this Democrat Senate floor video.

Look,  This asshat is sitting up there, talking about Oligarchs, and Governments that STEAL from people.

THAT"S HIM, he's talking about himself.. They all do it.

So the device here, is to DIVIDE the population,  no my political opponent is the thief, vote for me and my constituency. We're team not-thieves.


PEOPLE fail to understand, THEY're ALL Thieves.



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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 11 March 2025, 12:54:07 »
Yesterday Musk called Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ) a "traitor" for (apparently, no actual reason given) supporting Ukraine's right to stand up to Putin.

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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 11 March 2025, 16:14:53 »
Ukraine does have a right to defend itself,  but that is not the will of the Ukranian people, that is the desire of American Atlanticism (Imperialism) and our puppet Zelensky.

Tp4 is all for it, except the fact that it's been a fantasy all along, and an extremely dangerous one at that.

If it was possible for America to rule the world. Heck yea, do it.  Unfortunately that is a long lost reality, and any talk of it now is childish and a waste of money.
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 09:00:36 »
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 14:42:38 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 13 March 2025, 09:00:36
https://heatmap.news/politics/elon-musk-climate-enemy



The entirety of Human-Industry is the Climate-Enemy.

Irrespective of who's in charge.

Pushing for electric is only slightly more efficient/cleaner than coal, and equally unsustainable.
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 15:24:50 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 13 March 2025, 14:42:38
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 13 March 2025, 09:00:36
https://heatmap.news/politics/elon-musk-climate-enemy



The entirety of Human-Industry is the Climate-Enemy.
equally unsustainable.[/i][/color] [/size][/color]
Please stop trolling and diverting from the issue.

The difference is that some of us at least try, even if we're not perfect. Intent matters.
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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 15:33:37 »
Quote from: Findecanor on Thu, 13 March 2025, 15:24:50
Please stop trolling and diverting from the issue.

The difference is that some of us at least try, even if we're not perfect. Intent matters.

Tp4 understands that intent matters, but what if the CORE framing of human progress is incorrect.

A person could be TRYING to make a more ethical casino, or more ethical slaughter house.

But If we still propose to live as a society that meters progress by Money, and Extraction/Slaughter,   then nothing you try Within the current system will ultimately be of any help.  They're minor tweaks to an imminent failure.

Tp4 is not attacking Findecanor's INTENT,   but the system,  is fundamentally,  Broken.  Unless we dig much deeper, and become the butterfly, we will just rot in this cocoon of consumerism.


Electric is only a tiny bit better. The science says we barely have enough raw material to produce GEN 1 electrical replacement to power current infrastructure,  This means,  Contraction from our 19Terawatt society is inevitable.   

Humanity has NO EXPERIENCE, managing DOWN,   Our concept of economy has only ever been, UP, growth.


The mining scientists say, we're likely looking at a 3-5 Terawatt society.  Imagine that.  Tp4's not going to be playing no 700 watt gaming PC.
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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 15:39:44 »
Then it's important to remember. Pretty much all of the electrical "stuff" is going to come from fossil energy.

And Gasoline itself is <50% of what we use Fossils for.  They just invested 400 $Billion into new petrochem for Plastics. Plastics is on target for 20%.



Thinking that Going electric is going to do anything at all in slowing this train wreck is ludicrously Narrow-Boundary-Problem-Solving.


Engineering (outside of systems-engineering) in general is narrow bound, we train them to narrowly define the problem, pick a few numbers to optimize, and GO TO TOWN. 


This type of systems ideology is what's going to get us killed. 
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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 17:24:08 »
Elon: "We need to legalize comedy again."
also Elon: shadowbans all comedians on Twitter that make a joke about him

what a thinskinned baby
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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 17:39:22 »
Quote from: noisyturtle on Thu, 13 March 2025, 17:24:08

what a thinskinned baby


It is a long and deep dive, but if you can read a big fat book this one really helps you understand what a dysfunctional and conflicted person he is.

But unfortunately, it was completed almost 2 years ago - before he turned seriously evil.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/122765395-elon-musk
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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”

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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 13 March 2025, 20:18:06 »
Black Mirror 3 is coming out in April.

At least something good is happening in the new Dark ages.
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Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 14 March 2025, 09:50:06 »
"Musk has fired tens of thousands of federal government employees through his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), and he reportedly requires the remaining workers to send the department a weekly email featuring five bullet points describing what they accomplished that week.

Since that will no doubt flood DOGE with hundreds of thousands of these types of emails, Musk is relying on artificial intelligence to process responses and help determine who should remain employed. Part of that plan reportedly is also to replace many government workers with AI systems.

It’s not yet clear what any of these AI systems look like or how they work — something Democrats in the United States Congress are demanding to be filled in on — but experts warn that utilizing AI in the federal government without robust testing and verification of these tools could have disastrous consequences."

- Thor Benson 2025-03-13

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Bret Stephens (NYT 2025-03-10) starts with the tariffs, noting that every president since the Great Depression has correctly concluded that the ensuing economic crisis and World War that followed that calamity was attributable in large part to the notorious 1930 Smoot Hawley Tariffs.
That is, until the current occupant of the Oval Office. Until him, no U.S. president has been so ignorant of the lessons of history. Until him, no U.S. president has been so incompetent in putting his own ideas into practice. That’s a conclusion that stock markets seem to have drawn as they plunged following the Trump triple whammy: first, tariff threats against our largest trading partners, spelling much higher costs; second, twice-repeated monthlong reprieves on some of those tariffs, meaning a zero-predictability business environment; finally, his tacit admission, to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, that the United States could go into recession this year, and that it’s a price he’s willing to pay to do what he calls a “big thing.” In short, a willful, erratic and heedless president is prepared to risk both the U.S. and global economy to make his ideological point. This won’t end well, especially in a no-guardrails administration staffed by a how-high team of enablers and toadies.
But Stephens goes further than simply castigating these pointless and destructive tariffs that Trump has taken such a pathological shine to. He explains how the fancifully created “Department of Governmental Efficiency, (“DOGE”) would be more aptly characterized as an engine of wholesale destruction. Because nothing Musk is doing is about “efficiency.”
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