Angle of the keyboard? Front height, rear height measurements?
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced? Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.Would love to do that.
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced? Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.Would love to do that.
I am so ready to buy this, I have been trying to snag the Grid 600 for so long
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I love side mounting points and renders of foam
Well hello good sir
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
I love side mounting points and renders of foam
And what's the price of this btw? Any proto? Plate options?????
Am I being annoying or are these points that should be in the original IC
this feels more like a marketing thing than an actual interest check
The second image, the sceond and forth from the last image are one of our actaul prototypes with final Hub and Front LED indicator design.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EWtyPbs.jpg)
Plate option is something we are still working on and would love get feedback from you guys.
Does that mean that mean that grid 600 is getting another run soon? Or does that mean that the modules will be interchangeable between grid 600 and grid 650?
- All new modules will be available for grid600 as well.
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced? Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.Would love to do that.
Then put me down for two!
Split spacebar support?
Your site's https cert is broken/expired by the way. Getting an SSL error when I enter it.
The second image, the sceond and forth from the last image are one of our actaul prototypes with final Hub and Front LED indicator design.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EWtyPbs.jpg)
Plate option is something we are still working on and would love get feedback from you guys.
Get rid of the side mounting points, it feels terrible and really ruins a board. You rendered a thick plate, but please consider a 1.5mm plate alongside the non-hotswap PCB.
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced? Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.Would love to do that.
Then put me down for two!
I would love to see the screen and the knob combined into one module.
So the layout now is a little different. See here.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hji0azi.jpg)
From the new modules, I would have to say I like Type-07 ARRAY the most. Do you have any prototypes of the display itself? It looks like a 16-segment display design with a retro nixie tube feel in the renders and just wondering how you were planning on achieving that effect. Great work!
Nixie tube made me think of vacuum tubes.... vacuum tubes made me think of amps.... MAKE A VACUUM TUBE HEADPHONE AMP MODULE!!!! Vacuum tubes sticking out of keyboard would look dope.
It is kind of crazy, given that the mech and audio communities seem to share many of the same constituents that no one has yet come up with a keyboard with an amp/DAC in it.... (if only i had the motivation..)
Nixie tube made me think of vacuum tubes.... vacuum tubes made me think of amps.... MAKE A VACUUM TUBE HEADPHONE AMP MODULE!!!! Vacuum tubes sticking out of keyboard would look dope.
It is kind of crazy, given that the mech and audio communities seem to share many of the same constituents that no one has yet come up with a keyboard with an amp/DAC in it.... (if only i had the motivation..)
now that you mention it, i'm surprised this crossover hasn't happened yet! not a bad idea imo
Can you post a typing test?
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any rough timeline? this year had alot of stuff to buy near end of the year
Approximately how much time before the gb start date would we be informed about the gb?
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Any possibility of some of the older modules returning for the Grid600? I missed out on the Neon module the first time around, and they aren't exactly common, so buying it on /r/mechmarket isn't really an option.
Also, which of the new modules will be made for the 600?
I wish i could have FLASH and Circle on the same mod..
I think it would be cool to divide the mod section into 2 mod sections.
1 smaller, taking up a 1/3 to the left, where you could have smaller versions of the Circle, Stand, Array, Press, and Neon.
And the 2nd, taking up the rest of the original mod section 2/3, where the options could be the Classic, Classic S, Peaks, Flash, Waves, and Linear.
Maybe you could take that idea and run with it on a TKL version next time, I guess.
Any word on how many will be made?
Will there be build guide for this board? Looks kinda complicated...
Will winkey blockers be available for the Grid600?
Gorgeous. Would also like to know price and quantity of the sale. Very keen and amazing work!
Will there be other colors beside white and black for base?
Thank you Thank you !!
I’m most interested for the Array. I’ll also be getting neon for my grid600.
And likely the linear. The grid design is very retro and the dolch like Linear -V is very appealing.
Can the array be programmed ? If so how ?
More than time or texts, I’m more interested in hacking together notifications or some kind.
From the new modules, I would have to say I like Type-07 ARRAY the most. Do you have any prototypes of the display itself? It looks like a 16-segment display design with a retro nixie tube feel in the renders and just wondering how you were planning on achieving that effect. Great work!
So the layout now is a little different. See here.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hji0azi.jpg)
hello there, would it be possible to provide the dimensions for the options in the bottom row?
in particular, i am not sure what the cap dimensions are for the 1st alternative bottom row (the top most green option)
Nixie tube made me think of vacuum tubes.... vacuum tubes made me think of amps.... MAKE A VACUUM TUBE HEADPHONE AMP MODULE!!!! Vacuum tubes sticking out of keyboard would look dope.
It is kind of crazy, given that the mech and audio communities seem to share many of the same constituents that no one has yet come up with a keyboard with an amp/DAC in it.... (if only i had the motivation..)
now that you mention it, i'm surprised this crossover hasn't happened yet! not a bad idea imo
Oh man, that sounds like a great idea and would look incredible. it would keep your desk clean too since your keyboard now doubles as an amp/dac if you were going to have those anyway.
So the layout now is a little different. See here.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hji0azi.jpg)
hello there, would it be possible to provide the dimensions for the options in the bottom row?
in particular, i am not sure what the cap dimensions are for the 1st alternative bottom row (the top most green option)
Hi there, the first space bar is 6.25U, the second is 6U, and the rest are 7U. We should have put that info in the image, will do next time. Thanks for pointing that out!
Any possibility of some of the older modules returning for the Grid600? I missed out on the Neon module the first time around, and they aren't exactly common, so buying it on /r/mechmarket isn't really an option.
Also, which of the new modules will be made for the 600?
Thanks for supporting us! Actually we do have a set of black NEON for grid 600 available. E-mail me and we will send you an invoice if you are still interested. It is gridsihere@gmail.com
For the new modules, apart from the CIRCLE, the knob one, everything else will be available in the 600 form.
Thank you for keeping to the standard 65% layout with no blocker! This board has brought me out of mech hibernation, will 110% be committing to the GB once live.
Gorgeous. Would also like to know price and quantity of the sale. Very keen and amazing work!
Will there be other colors beside white and black for base?
We are considering grey as an option. Any suggestions?
It will be an unlimited GB. We will also make some extra modules.
Hooray for unlimited GB ! !Any word on how many will be made?
It will be an unlimited GB. We will also make some extra modules.
Gorgeous. Would also like to know price and quantity of the sale. Very keen and amazing work!
Will there be other colors beside white and black for base?
We are considering grey as an option. Any suggestions?
Grey would be a nice color addition!
Just to confirm, only new module designs will be available for 600? I won't be able to get a Classic top in the new colors for 600?
I rather have a vac tube amp then a DAC. (I rather have both, but if i had to pick one..) I would try to do a "collab" with a small/moderately sized audio company. I would try contacting "Schiit.com" 1st. Great products, GREAT prices. They're an awesome company. Do collabs with other small companies all the time. All ready have fairly small sized DACs and amps, and have several products that are "modular' and sell pcb upgrades for their products. And i just like the company.
Nixie tube made me think of vacuum tubes.... vacuum tubes made me think of amps.... MAKE A VACUUM TUBE HEADPHONE AMP MODULE!!!! Vacuum tubes sticking out of keyboard would look dope.
It is kind of crazy, given that the mech and audio communities seem to share many of the same constituents that no one has yet come up with a keyboard with an amp/DAC in it.... (if only i had the motivation..)
now that you mention it, i'm surprised this crossover hasn't happened yet! not a bad idea imo
Oh man, that sounds like a great idea and would look incredible. it would keep your desk clean too since your keyboard now doubles as an amp/dac if you were going to have those anyway.
We've seriously thought about that! Will be great if we can work with people with experience with DAC. Maybe one day we can let some good looking Nixie tube sing a harmony for us.
Grey would be a nice color addition!
Just to confirm, only new module designs will be available for 600? I won't be able to get a Classic top in the new colors for 600?
I rather have a vac tube amp then a DAC. (I rather have both, but if i had to pick one..) I would try to do a "collab" with a small/moderately sized audio company. I would try contacting "Schiit.com" 1st. Great products, GREAT prices. They're an awesome company. Do collabs with other small companies all the time. All ready have fairly small sized DACs and amps, and have several products that are "modular' and sell pcb upgrades for their products. And i just like the company.
Nixie tube made me think of vacuum tubes.... vacuum tubes made me think of amps.... MAKE A VACUUM TUBE HEADPHONE AMP MODULE!!!! Vacuum tubes sticking out of keyboard would look dope.
It is kind of crazy, given that the mech and audio communities seem to share many of the same constituents that no one has yet come up with a keyboard with an amp/DAC in it.... (if only i had the motivation..)
now that you mention it, i'm surprised this crossover hasn't happened yet! not a bad idea imo
Oh man, that sounds like a great idea and would look incredible. it would keep your desk clean too since your keyboard now doubles as an amp/dac if you were going to have those anyway.
We've seriously thought about that! Will be great if we can work with people with experience with DAC. Maybe one day we can let some good looking Nixie tube sing a harmony for us.
You could also just do a simple "equalizer" module.
That, or maybe contacting Drop's audio community, and seeing if they know or can recommend any companies/people
Since you plan on making more modules for the 600; do you plan on making more 600 cases?
Gorgeous. Would also like to know price and quantity of the sale. Very keen and amazing work!
Will there be other colors beside white and black for base?
We are considering grey as an option. Any suggestions?
@grid team, can you speak to the reliability of Zfrontier? I've seen some mixed reviews about their fulfillment, even with grid600. Given that Zfrontier is the only option, I just want to make sure there's some reliability here.
@grid team, can you speak to the reliability of Zfrontier? I've seen some mixed reviews about their fulfillment, even with grid600. Given that Zfrontier is the only option, I just want to make sure there's some reliability here.
I have a few questions:
1. The BLE version supports Wired and Wireless correct?
2. I have read your previous messages that the GB is unlimited, but I’ve also read you’re making the WKL limited, is this correct?
why does the hotswap pcb require such a thick plate?It provides a more uniform feeling when used with the soft gaskets.
Does the Flash module only comes in black color?
Is the Module 10 CIRCLE, happening in the future?
Any idea on a date and GB run length as of yet?Look at the first post. It's been updated with information.
I'm glad the modules are being run in multiple colours, I was hoping to have array in a colour that better matches E-white.
not sure if i missed this somewhere within the thread, but i didn't see pricing for individual modules.Look at them first post. There's a column for module prices.
is it safe to assume that we won't have the option to buy different modules with one board?
It provides a more uniform feeling when used with the soft gaskets.
You can also choose the 1.5mm universal plate if you prefer that.
We will have a video to explain both plates.
Does the grid650 hotswapable PCB support per key rgb led?
Is the Module 10 CIRCLE, happening in the future?
Yes, most likely March 2021.
The thing is that we are not happy with the knob feeling right now.
Also, we have some feedback on merging this module with other modules, like Module 07 ARRAY.
So some engineering works need to be done.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jcWFkAB.jpg)
Module Type-07 ARRAY
A module utilizes vintage LED displays to indicates time, personal texts, or computer hardware info (PC only).
Nevertheless, you will not be able to modify any BLE related keycodes unless VIA starts to support it. Still, it is possible to use the wired version firmware with the BLE board.
why does the hotswap pcb require such a thick plate?It provides a more uniform feeling when used with the soft gaskets.
You can also choose the 1.5mm universal plate if you prefer that.
We will have a video to explain both plates.
Hi there, I hate to say that... but neither of them is on our plan. Sorry....
Hi there, I hate to say that... but neither of them is on our plan. Sorry....
Module Type-09 STAND needs to be modified so that the groove in the faceplate is longer. This will allow smartphones to lay horizontally.
Hi there, I hate to say that... but neither of them is on our plan. Sorry....
Hi there, I hate to say that... but neither of them is on our plan. Sorry....
Hi!
1. Is there any information about the colors of the case and modules?
2. Can you tell us more about module 07? What information can be displayed? How to program? Will the display be only red or will there be a choice?
@Gridisphere
Hi,
Since module 10 circle got delayed.
Will it be available on Zfrontier at a later date? Would it ship at the same time as the Grid 650 or later?
Can I order a BLE board and an extra wired PCB? Or if I want an extra PCB it needs to be BLE also?
Thanks !
Hi there, I hate to say that... but neither of them is on our plan. Sorry....
Module Type-09 STAND needs to be modified so that the groove in the faceplate is longer. This will allow smartphones to lay horizontally.
Sad to see the grey ano option got dismissed ( from the first Module 10 renders ), any chance for just the modules in a grey option? :D
so the ble version is not programmable?
65% layout, QMK BLE, with optional non BLE version
All the boards run on QMK, and the wired variants are VIA-compatible.
For the BLE version, it is challenging due to the limits of ROM size. We are still working on that. Nevertheless, you will not be able to modify any BLE related keycodes unless VIA starts to support it. Still, it is possible to use the wired version firmware with the BLE board.
Interested in the Flash module, but confused on exactly how it works. I see on the posting that battery DIY cables are included and that its not compatible with the included battery holder. So does the Flash module work as intended when the cable is connected, but some DIY work has to go in to get it working when on BLE? Appreciate any clarification!
It is possible to get a 4mm thick universal plate? I would really like the option to get both and more importantly the consistent feel the 4mm one is supposed to provide.
Is there a possibility for a hotswap PCB for the WKL version?
It is live now, two more questions:
The list of countries for shipping is limited, is this the final list?
Can you provide more information about the catalina bootloader?
so the ble version is not programmable?
Such a nce looking board!
wonder if the module can be avalible in E-white as well? Going for that universal look with the E white but silver seems not really matching and black is too subtle....
Also want more renders plz! Zfrontier dont have enough renders to show different options! TY
No plans for a hotswap layout 1.5mm plate? Would definitely prefer this to the 4mm plate
I wanted to ask about the side mounting points on the plate options. There appears to be direct contact of the case and plate and then an o-ring before the screw. I would think just based on looking at it that is would take away from the gasket mounted feel and if there was compression it might make noise when the two come back in to contact? Clearly I'm missing something, can you help educate me as to how this works?
I also had a few questions I just want to clarify before purchasing:
1. To confirm, since it's a little unclear, if I go with the BLE board, will VIA not work at all, not even if using it wired?
2. How complicated is the set up for the battery, especially if using the FLASH module? Is it worth going with BLE if I plan on using FLASH?
3. What is the plate material? How much stiffer will the 4mm plate be vs 1.5mm + felt?
4. I too was wondering how the bootloader will work for programming the FLASH module.
5. Will more modules be easily available at a later date?
Thanks so much! Super excited!
Haven't seen anyone ask yet, is the solder PCB compatible with Mill-Max sockets?
(I'm aware there is a hotswap PCB option, but I'd like to have split backspace, stepped capslock, and some R1 changes, which are not supported by the hotswap layout)
Was there going to be modules available for grid600? I think I remember reading that there would be. Thanks!
Seconding the Q about the "Battery DIY cables included" for the FLASH module. would this run off a separate battery? If the battery shown in the layered view renders is the one that powers the keyboard... where does the extra battery go? Or is FLASH only compatible with a wired version?
No plans for a hotswap layout 1.5mm plate? Would definitely prefer this to the 4mm plate
We do have many request on that. We are considering to do that. However we do love the feel of the 4mm version (which is also more expensive to manufacture).
Seconding the Q about the "Battery DIY cables included" for the FLASH module. would this run off a separate battery? If the battery shown in the layered view renders is the one that powers the keyboard... where does the extra battery go? Or is FLASH only compatible with a wired version?
The included cable will help you to connect a third-party battery. The battery needs to be thin like the one used in tablets and go underneath the chassic.
FLASH is fully compatible with a wired version and we recommend to use FLASH in a wired setup, considering it will drain the battery fast.
Will there be build guide for this board? Looks kinda complicated...Yeah... This will be my first board and it'd be nice to have a guide or something.
Question:
Is front LED programmable? How does it work for wired-only PCB?
Placed my order!
White hotswap BLE with 1.5mm plate and silver peaks, plus a black Array module.
Interested in the Flash module, but confused on exactly how it works. I see on the posting that battery DIY cables are included and that its not compatible with the included battery holder. So does the Flash module work as intended when the cable is connected, but some DIY work has to go in to get it working when on BLE? Appreciate any clarification!You get it completely right.
Plz reply to this questionInterested in the Flash module, but confused on exactly how it works. I see on the posting that battery DIY cables are included and that its not compatible with the included battery holder. So does the Flash module work as intended when the cable is connected, but some DIY work has to go in to get it working when on BLE? Appreciate any clarification!
The same question for me. I would like to know the level of customization that we need to do.
Still confused about Array but very interested. If I wanted to have a Hotswap Wired setup can I also get Array without having to purchase anything else? Can I easily swap over to Flash with the same setup? If too complicated I'll stick to Hotswap Wired + Flash.
It is live now, two more questions:
The list of countries for shipping is limited, is this the final list?
Can you provide more information about the catalina bootloader?
Will ask zFrontier about the country thing. Catalina bootloader is Arduino’s bootloader. Arruino will see the board as Leonardo.
Haven't seen anyone ask yet, is the solder PCB compatible with Mill-Max sockets?
(I'm aware there is a hotswap PCB option, but I'd like to have split backspace, stepped capslock, and some R1 changes, which are not supported by the hotswap layout)
Thanks for asking that. We haven't look into the Mill-Max sockets situation. They should be compatible but I am a little concerned about the strength of some pins as, in some cases, cut into half to fit other layouts. Also, we used the space for split backspace for BLE chips. That's why.
Is the Module 10 CIRCLE, happening in the future?
Yes, most likely March 2021.
The thing is that we are not happy with the knob feeling right now.
Also, we have some feedback on merging this module with other modules, like Module 07 ARRAY.
So some engineering works need to be done.
Thanks for the reply, this is really interesting I was one of the people who asked those two modules to be merged so if that is happening I can skip 07 ARRAY module this time around and get the combined module in the future!
Two more questions about the modules:
Module Type-04 FLASH: Is this QMK programmable?
Module Type-05 PRESS: Is this hotswap or solderable?
@gridishere, there are several people with outstanding questions (myself included) about the module and plate compatibilities. I already cancelled my first order because of some confusion but I'd like to place another. Please answer these questions.
- Is the 1.5mm plate compatible with hotswap PCB?
- Can ARRAY be used over Bluetooth, or only wired?
- How is ARRAY programmed/interfaced? Other than saying it's PC only, I haven't seen any details about how it will work.
- Is PRESS hotswap or solder?
This is a great looking design but I'm starting to not want to give over $600 to a GB runner who won't answer questions after they've been asked multiple times over the course of quite a few days/weeks.
Placed my order!
White hotswap BLE with 1.5mm plate and silver peaks, plus a black Array module.
Same I have a few questions @gridishere
-About 4 Flash.
It's not very clear to me how it works.
I have to remove the battery holder, but why are there "battery DIY cables" included?
Can't it run off the USB cable?
-About 7 Array.
Same, why does it need a dedicated CR1220 battery?
Can't it run off the USB cable? Or the 18650 battery?
-If I plan on using only a wired version, should I just not install the 18650 battery holder?
A big part of the appeal of this board is changing the modules, but if it requires wiring and some DIY it kinda is a bigger process than I imagined.
This may be a little early to ask, but are there any plans for a polycarbonate version (black and/or clear) in the future?
This is a great looking design but I'm starting to not want to give over $600 to a GB runner who won't answer questions after they've been asked multiple times over the course of quite a few days/weeks.
This may be a little early to ask, but are there any plans for a polycarbonate version (black and/or clear) in the future?
Polycarb can have a different sound profile.This may be a little early to ask, but are there any plans for a polycarbonate version (black and/or clear) in the future?
Why do you want a PC version? Is it just the aesthetics? Just curious.
Same I have a few questions @gridishere
-About 4 Flash.
It's not very clear to me how it works.
I have to remove the battery holder, but why are there "battery DIY cables" included?
Can't it run off the USB cable?
-About 7 Array.
Same, why does it need a dedicated CR1220 battery?
Can't it run off the USB cable? Or the 18650 battery?
-If I plan on using only a wired version, should I just not install the 18650 battery holder?
A big part of the appeal of this board is changing the modules, but if it requires wiring and some DIY it kinda is a bigger process than I imagined.
For the MOD-04 FLASH,
It can run off the USB cable and that's what we prefer to offer.
The "battery DIY cables" are for people who really like a wireless, battery-powered FLASH setup. As the FLASH module takes the space for the 18650 battery holder, a flat thin tablet battery is required for that setup. The DIY cables are for connecting the tablet battery to our HUB PCB.
For the MOD-07 ARRAY,
The CR1220 battery is for its internal clock, for the time function.
That module can run off the USB cable or 18650 battery.
If you plan a wired-only version. You don't need the 18650 battery holder or DIY cables.
Hope it helps!
Have been a little busy on the manufacturing side, sorry for the late reply.
Same I have a few questions @gridishere
-About 4 Flash.
It's not very clear to me how it works.
I have to remove the battery holder, but why are there "battery DIY cables" included?
Can't it run off the USB cable?
-About 7 Array.
Same, why does it need a dedicated CR1220 battery?
Can't it run off the USB cable? Or the 18650 battery?
-If I plan on using only a wired version, should I just not install the 18650 battery holder?
A big part of the appeal of this board is changing the modules, but if it requires wiring and some DIY it kinda is a bigger process than I imagined.
For the MOD-04 FLASH,
It can run off the USB cable and that's what we prefer to offer.
The "battery DIY cables" are for people who really like a wireless, battery-powered FLASH setup. As the FLASH module takes the space for the 18650 battery holder, a flat thin tablet battery is required for that setup. The DIY cables are for connecting the tablet battery to our HUB PCB.
For the MOD-07 ARRAY,
The CR1220 battery is for its internal clock, for the time function.
That module can run off the USB cable or 18650 battery.
If you plan a wired-only version. You don't need the 18650 battery holder or DIY cables.
Hope it helps!
Have been a little busy on the manufacturing side, sorry for the late reply.
Awesome thanks for the answer.
So if I run wired only, how do I connect these 2 modules so they run of USB power?
Hey Grid team, are you able to provide me with the top images of all the cases and modules in their various colours? The reasoning being is I want to put together a website/simulator to help people decide/visualise the different combinations of case and modules (in their various colours) according to however they want. It would be great if you can provide because I have quite a few people wanting the same thing. Or if you cannot provide are you able to setup a simulator yourselves so people can visually swap and choose what combinations they like?
Thank you!
Hey Grid team, are you able to provide me with the top images of all the cases and modules in their various colours? The reasoning being is I want to put together a website/simulator to help people decide/visualise the different combinations of case and modules (in their various colours) according to however they want. It would be great if you can provide because I have quite a few people wanting the same thing. Or if you cannot provide are you able to setup a simulator yourselves so people can visually swap and choose what combinations they like?
Thank you!
that would be great.
I am waiting january to order, but I'm struggling to choose the color of the module I want because of the lack of renders/photos
Hey Grid team, are you able to provide me with the top images of all the cases and modules in their various colours? The reasoning being is I want to put together a website/simulator to help people decide/visualise the different combinations of case and modules (in their various colours) according to however they want. It would be great if you can provide because I have quite a few people wanting the same thing. Or if you cannot provide are you able to setup a simulator yourselves so people can visually swap and choose what combinations they like?
Thank you!
that would be great.
I am waiting january to order, but I'm struggling to choose the color of the module I want because of the lack of renders/photos
Agreed, I have changed my mind on colours of modules about 5 times now. Was thinking of doing a janky photoshop job to see, but would love something more official to help guide me.
If ordering a hot swap PCB must one get the 4mm plate or will the 1.5mm work okay and vice versa for the solder PCB?
Hi, I think this question has been missed a few times, can you please confirm whether the hotswap version pcb can be used with the 1.5mm plate option? Thanks.
Hey Grid team, are you able to provide me with the top images of all the cases and modules in their various colours? The reasoning being is I want to put together a website/simulator to help people decide/visualise the different combinations of case and modules (in their various colours) according to however they want. It would be great if you can provide because I have quite a few people wanting the same thing. Or if you cannot provide are you able to setup a simulator yourselves so people can visually swap and choose what combinations they like?
Thank you!
Do you know the amount of tritium used in O2NEON?
I would love to know more about the Type 07 Array. What exactly can be displayed and how is the display changed or sent information to? Is there a dedicated APP for the PC? Is there a limit to what it can be used for in terms of information or will it be able to be programmed?Thanks for your interest, ARRAY can display current time, your PC hardware info, and custom texts.
I also would like to be able to compare colour options across the entire range, I would like to order multiple combos but I am finding it difficult to work them all out.
Hey Grid team, are you able to provide me with the top images of all the cases and modules in their various colours? The reasoning being is I want to put together a website/simulator to help people decide/visualise the different combinations of case and modules (in their various colours) according to however they want. It would be great if you can provide because I have quite a few people wanting the same thing. Or if you cannot provide are you able to setup a simulator yourselves so people can visually swap and choose what combinations they like?
Thank you!
Wow, many thanks on that! I saw one reply on Instagram said very similar thing, is that you? Honestly we really want to do that but we are fully occupied at this moment. We will create the media for you. Thanks again!
So is there any particular reason why none of the modules are offered in e-white? Very surprising given that all modules come in navy and black as options so you can color match that, but none for the white? Not even the Classic penholder?
Love the product, and will definitely be picking it up, but it feels like that was an easy miss on the design of the overall offering.
I wanted in white, but it seems like the dumb move to make since I can't properly match it with any modules for a clean all-white look.
I mean sure, but then that's just common-GB-sense.So is there any particular reason why none of the modules are offered in e-white? Very surprising given that all modules come in navy and black as options so you can color match that, but none for the white? Not even the Classic penholder?
Love the product, and will definitely be picking it up, but it feels like that was an easy miss on the design of the overall offering.
I wanted in white, but it seems like the dumb move to make since I can't properly match it with any modules for a clean all-white look.
In the end, it's up to the designer to release colors or designs that satisfies their creative direction. I think it's completely fair that he may not release colors that satisfies everyone.
Fair enough! Making your thoughts and opinions heard is definitely the point of an IC, that's for sure.I mean sure, but then that's just common-GB-sense.So is there any particular reason why none of the modules are offered in e-white? Very surprising given that all modules come in navy and black as options so you can color match that, but none for the white? Not even the Classic penholder?
Love the product, and will definitely be picking it up, but it feels like that was an easy miss on the design of the overall offering.
I wanted in white, but it seems like the dumb move to make since I can't properly match it with any modules for a clean all-white look.
In the end, it's up to the designer to release colors or designs that satisfies their creative direction. I think it's completely fair that he may not release colors that satisfies everyone.
Everything regarding this product is C L E A R L Y put together with the utmost attention to detail; to that effect, obviating one of the base color options altogether as an option for the modules is just... odd, and unfortunate.
Maybe it was cost prohibitive, and they would've had to upcharge customers for the e-white options on the modules given it's the only color that requires a different process than anno?
If that's the case, please charge us and give us the option!
And If it's not, I'd love learn where that decision came from :)
Absolutely in love with the modular design on the forehead. Stunning geometry you've added there. GLWIC. This is gonna be a big one.What is a render collaboration?
Would you be interested in a render collaboration with us by any chance?
Excited to generate some creative sparks with you soon. :thumb:
So is there any particular reason why none of the modules are offered in e-white? Very surprising given that all modules come in navy and black as options so you can color match that, but none for the white? Not even the Classic penholder?
Love the product, and will definitely be picking it up, but it feels like that was an easy miss on the design of the overall offering.
I wanted in white, but it seems like the dumb move to make since I can't properly match it with any modules for a clean all-white look.
Hoping you could answer more specific clarifying questions which don't seem to have been answered yet:
- Is Module 5 PRESS hotswap?
- Is the 18650 battery holder affixed to the case? Specifically, when you say that "the FLASH module takes the space for the 18650 battery holder", does this mean that before module 4 is put in (without the DIY battery setup), the entire holder must be removed, or just the 18650 battery itself must be removed from the holder?
- Does the DIY battery setup replace the 18650 battery entirely, or does the 18650 battery and/or its holder need to be reinstalled when the FLASH module is swapped out for a different module?
- Are the buttons on Module 4 able to turn off the LED strip entirely, such that it could remain installed while using BLE without the DIY battery setup?
Essentially, I'd like to know if I can purchase the wired + BLE configuration and then easily swap between Module 4 FLASH in just wired mode and any other module in either mode. Would greatly appreciate answers to the above ASAP. The keyboard looks great and I hope to purchase it. Thanks in advance!
Hoping you could answer more specific clarifying questions which don't seem to have been answered yet:
- Is Module 5 PRESS hotswap?
- Is the 18650 battery holder affixed to the case? Specifically, when you say that "the FLASH module takes the space for the 18650 battery holder", does this mean that before module 4 is put in (without the DIY battery setup), the entire holder must be removed, or just the 18650 battery itself must be removed from the holder?
- Does the DIY battery setup replace the 18650 battery entirely, or does the 18650 battery and/or its holder need to be reinstalled when the FLASH module is swapped out for a different module?
- Are the buttons on Module 4 able to turn off the LED strip entirely, such that it could remain installed while using BLE without the DIY battery setup?
Essentially, I'd like to know if I can purchase the wired + BLE configuration and then easily swap between Module 4 FLASH in just wired mode and any other module in either mode. Would greatly appreciate answers to the above ASAP. The keyboard looks great and I hope to purchase it. Thanks in advance!
Thanks for your interest,
1. Module 5 PRESS is indeed hotswap
2. The battery holder is secured to the chassis by 2 screws. The battery holder needs to be removed before installing module 4 FLASH.
3. The DIY batter setup should replace the 18650 battery holder entirely. Still, it is recommended to use FLASH in the wired mode.
4. YES, but it will still consume some energy.
Hope it helps!
Hoping you could answer more specific clarifying questions which don't seem to have been answered yet:
- Is Module 5 PRESS hotswap?
- Is the 18650 battery holder affixed to the case? Specifically, when you say that "the FLASH module takes the space for the 18650 battery holder", does this mean that before module 4 is put in (without the DIY battery setup), the entire holder must be removed, or just the 18650 battery itself must be removed from the holder?
- Does the DIY battery setup replace the 18650 battery entirely, or does the 18650 battery and/or its holder need to be reinstalled when the FLASH module is swapped out for a different module?
- Are the buttons on Module 4 able to turn off the LED strip entirely, such that it could remain installed while using BLE without the DIY battery setup?
Essentially, I'd like to know if I can purchase the wired + BLE configuration and then easily swap between Module 4 FLASH in just wired mode and any other module in either mode. Would greatly appreciate answers to the above ASAP. The keyboard looks great and I hope to purchase it. Thanks in advance!
Thanks for your interest,
1. Module 5 PRESS is indeed hotswap
2. The battery holder is secured to the chassis by 2 screws. The battery holder needs to be removed before installing module 4 FLASH.
3. The DIY batter setup should replace the 18650 battery holder entirely. Still, it is recommended to use FLASH in the wired mode.
4. YES, but it will still consume some energy.
Hope it helps!
Hi, thanks for providing us with more insight into the flash module.
In relation to question 4, can you please clarify this - so even though the lighting is off, the battery will still be drained? Will this affect standby time by a lot?
I've got a few more question to add below if you don't mind responding:
A) with the bluetooth PCB option, how many devices can the pcb remember? And if more than one, can you please briefly describe the process to change the device the keyboard is connected to?
B) on the zfrontier page, it states that using the BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS will void your warranty. Can you please explain what this means? Is this required to install the DIY battery to use the flash module wirelessly?
Thanks in advance.
This is because the MCU won't go into sleep mode when it is off, and the IC inside those addressable RGB LEDs can't be turned off. We can potentially make the MCU sleep when the lights are off. We assume this setup will take half the battery life.
B. Using BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS means you are connecting the battery directly to the voltage step-up circuit inside the HUB. Most lithium batteries should work just fine. However, we can't guarantee the quality of the third-party battery, and there is a meager chance it may fry the step-up circuit. For example, if one connects a 7.4V battery into our system, the voltage step-up chip will be damaged.
This is because the MCU won't go into sleep mode when it is off, and the IC inside those addressable RGB LEDs can't be turned off. We can potentially make the MCU sleep when the lights are off. We assume this setup will take half the battery life.
Thanks for the info. Does that mean that if you are able to implement the sleep mode for the MCU when the lights are off, it would solve the battery drain issue? Or is the IC unable to be turned off either way?
If you are able to solve this battery drain issue when the lights are off, I would get this module for sure!B. Using BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS means you are connecting the battery directly to the voltage step-up circuit inside the HUB. Most lithium batteries should work just fine. However, we can't guarantee the quality of the third-party battery, and there is a meager chance it may fry the step-up circuit. For example, if one connects a 7.4V battery into our system, the voltage step-up chip will be damaged.
If a battery does fry the hub, would replacing the usb hub pcb fix the keyboard, or would the main pcb have to be replaced as well?
Thanks again!
This is because the MCU won't go into sleep mode when it is off, and the IC inside those addressable RGB LEDs can't be turned off. We can potentially make the MCU sleep when the lights are off. We assume this setup will take half the battery life.
Thanks for the info. Does that mean that if you are able to implement the sleep mode for the MCU when the lights are off, it would solve the battery drain issue? Or is the IC unable to be turned off either way?
If you are able to solve this battery drain issue when the lights are off, I would get this module for sure!B. Using BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS means you are connecting the battery directly to the voltage step-up circuit inside the HUB. Most lithium batteries should work just fine. However, we can't guarantee the quality of the third-party battery, and there is a meager chance it may fry the step-up circuit. For example, if one connects a 7.4V battery into our system, the voltage step-up chip will be damaged.
If a battery does fry the hub, would replacing the usb hub pcb fix the keyboard, or would the main pcb have to be replaced as well?
Thanks again!
Should be just the HUB board. Main PCB only take 3.3V generate on the HUB.
This is because the MCU won't go into sleep mode when it is off, and the IC inside those addressable RGB LEDs can't be turned off. We can potentially make the MCU sleep when the lights are off. We assume this setup will take half the battery life.
Thanks for the info. Does that mean that if you are able to implement the sleep mode for the MCU when the lights are off, it would solve the battery drain issue? Or is the IC unable to be turned off either way?
If you are able to solve this battery drain issue when the lights are off, I would get this module for sure!B. Using BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS means you are connecting the battery directly to the voltage step-up circuit inside the HUB. Most lithium batteries should work just fine. However, we can't guarantee the quality of the third-party battery, and there is a meager chance it may fry the step-up circuit. For example, if one connects a 7.4V battery into our system, the voltage step-up chip will be damaged.
If a battery does fry the hub, would replacing the usb hub pcb fix the keyboard, or would the main pcb have to be replaced as well?
Thanks again!
Should be just the HUB board. Main PCB only take 3.3V generate on the HUB.
Thanks for that. Can you please also comment on the other question regarding the battery drain too? Cheers.
This is because the MCU won't go into sleep mode when it is off, and the IC inside those addressable RGB LEDs can't be turned off. We can potentially make the MCU sleep when the lights are off. We assume this setup will take half the battery life.
Thanks for the info. Does that mean that if you are able to implement the sleep mode for the MCU when the lights are off, it would solve the battery drain issue? Or is the IC unable to be turned off either way?
If you are able to solve this battery drain issue when the lights are off, I would get this module for sure!B. Using BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS means you are connecting the battery directly to the voltage step-up circuit inside the HUB. Most lithium batteries should work just fine. However, we can't guarantee the quality of the third-party battery, and there is a meager chance it may fry the step-up circuit. For example, if one connects a 7.4V battery into our system, the voltage step-up chip will be damaged.
If a battery does fry the hub, would replacing the usb hub pcb fix the keyboard, or would the main pcb have to be replaced as well?
Thanks again!
Should be just the HUB board. Main PCB only take 3.3V generate on the HUB.
Thanks for that. Can you please also comment on the other question regarding the battery drain too? Cheers.
We will test that in the weekend. Will let you know.
This is because the MCU won't go into sleep mode when it is off, and the IC inside those addressable RGB LEDs can't be turned off. We can potentially make the MCU sleep when the lights are off. We assume this setup will take half the battery life.
Thanks for the info. Does that mean that if you are able to implement the sleep mode for the MCU when the lights are off, it would solve the battery drain issue? Or is the IC unable to be turned off either way?
If you are able to solve this battery drain issue when the lights are off, I would get this module for sure!B. Using BATTERY PROTECTION BYPASS means you are connecting the battery directly to the voltage step-up circuit inside the HUB. Most lithium batteries should work just fine. However, we can't guarantee the quality of the third-party battery, and there is a meager chance it may fry the step-up circuit. For example, if one connects a 7.4V battery into our system, the voltage step-up chip will be damaged.
If a battery does fry the hub, would replacing the usb hub pcb fix the keyboard, or would the main pcb have to be replaced as well?
Thanks again!
Should be just the HUB board. Main PCB only take 3.3V generate on the HUB.
Thanks for that. Can you please also comment on the other question regarding the battery drain too? Cheers.
We will test that in the weekend. Will let you know.
Got an update?
Hi Grid,
So I will place my order in the coming days, but I still have a few questions.
-You said on the 3rd of December that a video explaining the 1.5 vs 4mm plate was coming. Any update on this?
-I need the hotswap version, but that also means I can only get the WK version. The grid 600 came with blockers I believe, will the 650 also come with blockers? If not, any chance I could find the grid 600 blockers somewhere?
-Is the rose color for the 650, the same as the grid 600 rose gold color?
-Is the module 10 Circle 100% coming? (so that I can plan which modules I need to buy)
-I will try to get an extra plate, PCB and USB-HUB PCB, but getting those extras gets pretty expensive and my cart is already at over 800$ with the different modules (which means over 1000$ after import taxes sadly).
Will it be possible to get USBHUB/PCB/plates later on? If not, the grid 600 I believe supported other PCB like some KBD ones, will it be the same with the 650? It's just in case something goes wrong in the future, it would be a nice peace of mind to know I can still find parts.
This is the most I ever spent on a keyboard, so I want to make sure I get everything right.
Thanks for your time.
@gridishere: I mentioned before about doing a Boardwalk PCB for this. Is there any chance the original PCB would be open-sourced so that I can use the measurements for making a custom PCB to fit this case? Double kudos if you're able to share your bluetooth implementation so I can match your feature set :)We will share a PCB design guideline at the end of our GB, including Pin definition and a CAD file for layouts. QMK codes will be available as well. It might take some time to update.
I picked up two of these boards for myself for this project, so you know I'm taking it seriously!
Edit: BTW if I pick up the wire only PCB, will I still get the HUB PCB with the battery holder? My second grid is a barebones unit, since a Boardwalk will be going into it. I want to make sure I could still make a wireless Boardwalk PCB work in it.
Awesome news and thanks for the information.
-Just to clarify where will I be able to get PCB/plates in the future since you mention 5 years of support?
-You missed my question about the "rose" color, is it the same as the "rose gold" from Grid 600 or a different shade?
-The video seems to work perfectly fine with the 1.5mm plate, why was it not recommended for hotswaps? I am still not really sure which one I prefer, to me the 4mm sounds more muted, while the 1.5 I feel you hear the switches more.
Blockers would be incredible, it really is my only gripe with the board, I really like a blocker before my arrows keys.
OK I give up. I have filed and emptied my basket a dozen times now and I simply can not choose between black or white case colour. Once you choose that it changes all my module choices. How are you guys making decisions on buying this? I need help. Black or white base to start with?
OK I give up. I have filed and emptied my basket a dozen times now and I simply can not choose between black or white case colour. Once you choose that it changes all my module choices. How are you guys making decisions on buying this? I need help. Black or white base to start with?
I came to the conclusion that a white case with black modules would come out looking a refined Rams-y retro style, and still being a neutral canvas to any kind of keycap.
as i can't get any replies from the vendor, asking here: can't order the board cause in checkout i get message that it's not possible to ship to destination country. i live in EU- how can i order?
OK I give up. I have filed and emptied my basket a dozen times now and I simply can not choose between black or white case colour. Once you choose that it changes all my module choices. How are you guys making decisions on buying this? I need help. Black or white base to start with?
If I wanted to paint my case should I get the white for better color stick or would black be fine to paint over later as well?You should be putting on a white primer (you can use a different color primer if you want, like black or gray, but it will alter the color of the top coat significantly) before you paint whatever color you want to put on as the top coat. So it should not matter which color you decide to get. You might also want to sand the keyboard before priming in order to improve adhesion, but we are talking about a keyboard here... it's not like it's going to see the abuse a car or gun would see, so i don't think it really matters.
If I wanted to paint my case should I get the white for better color stick or would black be fine to paint over later as well?You should be putting on a white primer (you can use a different color primer if you want, like black or gray, but it will alter the color of the top coat significantly) before you paint whatever color you want to put on as the top coat. So it should not matter which color you decide to get. You might also want to sand the keyboard before priming in order to improve adhesion, but we are talking about a keyboard here... it's not like it's going to see the abuse a car or gun would see, so i don't think it really matters.
You can cerakote it yourself fairly easily, except for having to sandblast it down to the bare metal, and that's not actually difficult or anything, it just requires the purchase of a decent air compressor, which is a couple hundo.
The single best tip i can give you: Get some plastic spoons, and practice whatever paint job you want on some of them. That way, you can test multiple colors, in multiple shades, and multiple top coats (flat, semi, gloss) to figure out the PERFECT color/paint job for you.
If I wanted to paint my case should I get the white for better color stick or would black be fine to paint over later as well?You should be putting on a white primer (you can use a different color primer if you want, like black or gray, but it will alter the color of the top coat significantly) before you paint whatever color you want to put on as the top coat. So it should not matter which color you decide to get. You might also want to sand the keyboard before priming in order to improve adhesion, but we are talking about a keyboard here... it's not like it's going to see the abuse a car or gun would see, so i don't think it really matters.
You can cerakote it yourself fairly easily, except for having to sandblast it down to the bare metal, and that's not actually difficult or anything, it just requires the purchase of a decent air compressor, which is a couple hundo.
The single best tip i can give you: Get some plastic spoons, and practice whatever paint job you want on some of them. That way, you can test multiple colors, in multiple shades, and multiple top coats (flat, semi, gloss) to figure out the PERFECT color/paint job for you.
as i can't get any replies from the vendor, asking here: can't order the board cause in checkout i get message that it's not possible to ship to destination country. i live in EU- how can i order?
Are there any plans on having brass plates sold separately in the future?
Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Quick question, can I do the plate option with the keyboard and still go plate-less? Or do I need to buy it plate-less and then add on a plate if I wanted to later use a plate? Wasn't clear on the GB page.
Zfrontier is really not friendly for EU.
Really want to hop on this board but the import duties will be horrendous.
Hi Grid,
-Any update on a potential blocker?
If not, does the WKL solder version support Mill-Max?
I would much prefer to go with hotswap, but I would really like to know if a blocker will be available.
-The Array module can be used on a Mac to display time and custom messages right? It's just hardware info that is not available?
Is everything configured just via the 2 buttons or installing a software is required? When I google "Catalina Bootloader" I just get some hackintosh related stuff.
Thanks
You are god damn right I'm interested! I'd prefer a circle and flash combo, but I'll will definitely take that one.Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Thanks for your support!
We are thinking of a module combine Circle and ARRARY. Don't know if you will be interested.
Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Thanks for your support!
We are thinking of a module combine Circle and ARRARY. Don't know if you will be interested.
I can't imagine it will be released with this GB. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread, that CIRCLE will be happening at a latter date. Possibly this "combo" module will be released at the same, or, and i thinks it's likely, even latter.Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Thanks for your support!
We are thinking of a module combine Circle and ARRARY. Don't know if you will be interested.
Would it be possible to confirm if this new module that combines Circle and Array will happen before the GB ends?
That would be the perfect module for me, but I would feel bad if I purchase Array now and 1 month later this new module with Array + Circle comes out.
And thanks for the other information, I will look into where I could find somebody that could make a blocker then.
I can't imagine it will be released with this GB. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread, that CIRCLE will be happening at a latter date. Possibly this "combo" module will be released at the same, or, and i thinks it's likely, even latter.Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Thanks for your support!
We are thinking of a module combine Circle and ARRARY. Don't know if you will be interested.
Would it be possible to confirm if this new module that combines Circle and Array will happen before the GB ends?
That would be the perfect module for me, but I would feel bad if I purchase Array now and 1 month later this new module with Array + Circle comes out.
And thanks for the other information, I will look into where I could find somebody that could make a blocker then.
(I have no inside knowledge what so ever, so this is just pure speculation on my end.)
EDIT: Yeah, on page 4 of this thread, the GB runners states that the CIRCLE mod will most likely be happening in March.
"Soon" Like the date has been moved up from March? or do you mean March is soon?I can't imagine it will be released with this GB. I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread, that CIRCLE will be happening at a latter date. Possibly this "combo" module will be released at the same, or, and i thinks it's likely, even latter.Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Thanks for your support!
We are thinking of a module combine Circle and ARRARY. Don't know if you will be interested.
Would it be possible to confirm if this new module that combines Circle and Array will happen before the GB ends?
That would be the perfect module for me, but I would feel bad if I purchase Array now and 1 month later this new module with Array + Circle comes out.
And thanks for the other information, I will look into where I could find somebody that could make a blocker then.
(I have no inside knowledge what so ever, so this is just pure speculation on my end.)
EDIT: Yeah, on page 4 of this thread, the GB runners states that the CIRCLE mod will most likely be happening in March.
Yes Circle is supposed to be revealed soon which I was planning on purchasing, same as Array.
But I'd much rather purchase 1 module that combines both, so it would be awesome to know if that would be coming for sure in the future.
So is there any particular reason why none of the modules are offered in e-white? Very surprising given that all modules come in navy and black as options so you can color match that, but none for the white? Not even the Classic penholder?
Love the product, and will definitely be picking it up, but it feels like that was an easy miss on the design of the overall offering.
I wanted in white, but it seems like the dumb move to make since I can't properly match it with any modules for a clean all-white look.
E-white is a finish kind of like coating, which adds a small amount of thickness to the chassis or parts.
We are concerned if both the module or the keyboard is e-white, the fit between them could be too tight.
Sorry that we can't provide this option and we hope you can understand.
Anyone got a weird thing going on where no matter which module is picked the price remains the same? Also, I thought zfrontier did free shipping.
Hi Grid,
I would like to place my order soon, since the GB ending date is very close, I hope you will have the time to answer about the potential Circle+Array module that you presented.
Personally it would be my perfect module and I would order at least 2 colors, and I don't mind waiting if it releases several months after the rest. But I would really hate to order regular Array now, if this combo module is available later :(
Do you think you will be able to confirm if this module will be made before the end of the GB period or that isn't possible?
(Well it's probably too late to do anything about EU vendors now, but basically the board will cost about 30% more for most EU residents due to high import taxes :( )
Hi Grid,
I would like to place my order soon, since the GB ending date is very close, I hope you will have the time to answer about the potential Circle+Array module that you presented.
Personally it would be my perfect module and I would order at least 2 colors, and I don't mind waiting if it releases several months after the rest. But I would really hate to order regular Array now, if this combo module is available later :(
Do you think you will be able to confirm if this module will be made before the end of the GB period or that isn't possible?
(Well it's probably too late to do anything about EU vendors now, but basically the board will cost about 30% more for most EU residents due to high import taxes :( )
Sorry for the high import taxes.
The chance for us to release an ARRAY+CIRCLE combined module is 75%. We will also consider reusing the PCB in ARRAY if possible.
Thanks for considering our product.
Aesthetic and design wise, this board is really innovative. I loooove the modular concept, and I wish more boards would embrace this (even though on a manufacturing level, that increases cost by a lot).
But watching the sound tests released + JYMV's review, it sounds fairly underwhelming and almost mushy hollow.
Hope this is something that can be address considering how expensive this board is.
Hi Grid,
I would like to place my order soon, since the GB ending date is very close, I hope you will have the time to answer about the potential Circle+Array module that you presented.
Personally it would be my perfect module and I would order at least 2 colors, and I don't mind waiting if it releases several months after the rest. But I would really hate to order regular Array now, if this combo module is available later :(
Do you think you will be able to confirm if this module will be made before the end of the GB period or that isn't possible?
(Well it's probably too late to do anything about EU vendors now, but basically the board will cost about 30% more for most EU residents due to high import taxes :( )
Sorry for the high import taxes.
The chance for us to release an ARRAY+CIRCLE combined module is 75%. We will also consider reusing the PCB in ARRAY if possible.
Thanks for considering our product.
Thanks Grid,
75% is very high, but not 100% either :(
I will need to think if I want to take the risk of skipping Array now, and take the chance Circle+Array combined doesn't get made :(
Ahhhhh I don't know what to do.
Thanks for the new sound test also.
It's very strange, I could hear a big difference in 4mm vs 1.5mm on the Tealios, but with Black Inks I can't tell the difference.
Will there be new sound test or information before the 17th of was that the final news?
So is there any particular reason why none of the modules are offered in e-white? Very surprising given that all modules come in navy and black as options so you can color match that, but none for the white? Not even the Classic penholder?
Love the product, and will definitely be picking it up, but it feels like that was an easy miss on the design of the overall offering.
I wanted in white, but it seems like the dumb move to make since I can't properly match it with any modules for a clean all-white look.
E-white is a finish kind of like coating, which adds a small amount of thickness to the chassis or parts.
We are concerned if both the module or the keyboard is e-white, the fit between them could be too tight.
Sorry that we can't provide this option and we hope you can understand.
Hey!
Do you see yourself prototyping that, even if for just the classic/classic-s in that colorway as a limited option, or something in that vein?
I haven't made my purchase yet, but plan to. Just still wanna figure out if a module is a possibility in some way shape or form, or if at least an interest check for that is even possible as well, before making my final decision.
It's the one thing this board is missing!
Thanks mate
Aesthetic and design wise, this board is really innovative. I loooove the modular concept, and I wish more boards would embrace this (even though on a manufacturing level, that increases cost by a lot).
But watching the sound tests released + JYMV's review, it sounds fairly underwhelming and almost mushy hollow.
Hope this is something that can be address considering how expensive this board is.
Does Grid have any plans on releasing a grid 750 or higher board? I would be interested in a closer to full size board if there are plans to make one within the next year or so.
Aesthetic and design wise, this board is really innovative. I loooove the modular concept, and I wish more boards would embrace this (even though on a manufacturing level, that increases cost by a lot).
But watching the sound tests released + JYMV's review, it sounds fairly underwhelming and almost mushy hollow.
Hope this is something that can be address considering how expensive this board is.
The JYMV video you mentioned is the Grid 600 I believe, which is quite different to the 650, considering it's a different mounting style (tray mount vs gasket).
However, I completely agree about the sound tests (the one with the ink black switches in particular sound very mushy and unsatisfying). I'm hoping that it's the mic quality rather than the board itself.
Grid, are you able to post more sound test videos (perhaps with a different mic if possible) to hopefully ease our concerns?
Thanks again.
Eh, 65% is perfect for me, especially since most key sets screw up their f-row by by making the middle cluster the same color as the alphas, looks bad man.
Now. if they ever come out with one with an HHKB layout... Then i'd be upset!
Awesome news !
Crossing my fingers that there are no technical difficulties for the Circle+Array module.
I agree the Black Ink video probably wasn't the best demonstration of the potential of this board.
As you suggested, I would love to see a video with Holy Pandas with Array, and also some JWK's like Alpacas for example.
But there are only 3/4 days left on the GB so it might be difficult to release in time.
I am assuming the 4mm plate makes it very stiff? I couldn't tell the difference in sound on the black Ink, but on the Tealios I prefered the 1.5mm plate.
Hey grid, will extra PCBs (or parts and modules) be available for purchase later part of this quarter when Circle+Array is available ?PCB and parts will be available for a long time.
Also, whats the average weight of Grid 650 ?
@gridishere
Can I please make one small amendment to my order? I just want to change the color of module ARRAY from Navy to Silver. I've emailed zFrontier about it but we are having some communication issues due to language barrier. They sound like they are saying they've put in the request but I don't know what's actually happening, and I've asked for someone to just let me know if/when my order has been amended, but they keep quoting this sentence from their first reply:
"Hi ,I have marked your request which can not been seen from your sides while my colleague will"
I don't understand what this means. There is no change in price or module type, just color choice. So I would expect it to be fairly simple but I don't know how exactly how this works on your/zFrontier's end.
Hi Grid,
Thanks for posting that new video - really looking forward to seeing more videos. However, just one thing kind of bothers me - is there any chance of disabling the breathing light effect for the front indicator light while the keyboard is in use, as it seems it would be distracting during use.
Thanks again
@gridishere
Can I please make one small amendment to my order? I just want to change the color of module ARRAY from Navy to Silver. I've emailed zFrontier about it but we are having some communication issues due to language barrier. They sound like they are saying they've put in the request but I don't know what's actually happening, and I've asked for someone to just let me know if/when my order has been amended, but they keep quoting this sentence from their first reply:
"Hi ,I have marked your request which can not been seen from your sides while my colleague will"
I don't understand what this means. There is no change in price or module type, just color choice. So I would expect it to be fairly simple but I don't know how exactly how this works on your/zFrontier's end.
It should be fairly simple. I am sorry that happened. Can you E-mail me, gridishere@gmail.com ? Please use the E-mail address you used for ordering.
I will make the note for you, just mention that you want to change your ARRAY from Navy to Silver. Sorry for the hassle.
Thanks for understanding and support!
Best,
grid
Hey grid, will extra PCBs (or parts and modules) be available for purchase later part of this quarter when Circle+Array is available ?PCB and parts will be available for a long time.
Also, whats the average weight of Grid 650 ?
A limited amount of modules will be available when we do the next GB.
The average weight is about 1.6 kg or 3.5 lbs.
Thanks!
Hey grid, will extra PCBs (or parts and modules) be available for purchase later part of this quarter when Circle+Array is available ?PCB and parts will be available for a long time.
Also, whats the average weight of Grid 650 ?
A limited amount of modules will be available when we do the next GB.
The average weight is about 1.6 kg or 3.5 lbs.
Thanks!
Just to be sure I understood correctly.
-Module 10 Circle GB will be happening for sure around March. And hopefully some Circle "combo" modules also at the same time.
Is that correct?
-And now you just mentionned some of the current modules 1-9 will still be available for purchase during the March Circle GB.
Do you already know which ones would be returning?
I apologize for all my questions, but with the delay of module 10 and uncertainty of the combo modules it's a bit difficult to plan the correct purchases.
I will be getting 3 Peaks modules and 1 Flash for sure, but if regular Array will be back in March I would prefer to wait and see if circle-array combo will be available.
Looking forward to the sound test video that should hopefully be available by tomorrow.
Thank you very much.
It was very difficult to choose, but I finally managed to place my order.Yeah, asked them about it and they said the Grid GB was an exception for their shipping policy. I hoped to shave a few dollars off shipping too.
I think I did the right choice with my modules ... hopefully !
See you in March for Circle combo GB, fingers crossed, I count on you Grid.
ps: Did you guys have to pay for shipping? I thought zFrontier had free shipping over 100$ and my order was over 700$, and I had to pay a pretty extra on top for shipping :(
It was very difficult to choose, but I finally managed to place my order.Yeah, asked them about it and they said the Grid GB was an exception for their shipping policy. I hoped to shave a few dollars off shipping too.
I think I did the right choice with my modules ... hopefully !
See you in March for Circle combo GB, fingers crossed, I count on you Grid.
ps: Did you guys have to pay for shipping? I thought zFrontier had free shipping over 100$ and my order was over 700$, and I had to pay a pretty extra on top for shipping :(
@gridishere
Can I please make one small amendment to my order? I just want to change the color of module ARRAY from Navy to Silver. I've emailed zFrontier about it but we are having some communication issues due to language barrier. They sound like they are saying they've put in the request but I don't know what's actually happening, and I've asked for someone to just let me know if/when my order has been amended, but they keep quoting this sentence from their first reply:
"Hi ,I have marked your request which can not been seen from your sides while my colleague will"
I don't understand what this means. There is no change in price or module type, just color choice. So I would expect it to be fairly simple but I don't know how exactly how this works on your/zFrontier's end.
It should be fairly simple. I am sorry that happened. Can you E-mail me, gridishere@gmail.com ? Please use the E-mail address you used for ordering.
I will make the note for you, just mention that you want to change your ARRAY from Navy to Silver. Sorry for the hassle.
Thanks for understanding and support!
Best,
grid
Thanks very much, I'll send you an email now.
Awww Yeah! Just put my order in. I usually prefer the look of wkl, but it's doesn't work for me on this one. I also went with the Flash module, and I'm thinking about getting the array too.. Ideally, i'd like to try and "mod" the mods, and combine both into one..
Thanks for your support!
We are thinking of a module combine Circle and ARRARY. Don't know if you will be interested.