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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #200 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 18:30:51 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

Very interesting. Ubuntu feisty was one of the distros I cut my teeth on. Haven't used it much since the release of hardy. Checked out the latest release but Unity is not for me.

What flavor were you leading up? A fluxbuntu type or a suite based distro like musix?

Edit : music --> musix ... Autocorrect arggg

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #201 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 18:33:27 »
Nobody has said gentoo yet. That makes me sad.

If I weren't so busy hacking on code, and needing to install libraries easily in a jhbuild for it. I would be tempted to go back.

For now debian and Fedora serve me right.
I said funtoo, which is gentoo except it uses git instead of rsync. But I use Sabayon now, which is gentoo but without the hassle of installing the bare necessities.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #202 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:17:36 »
Nobody has said gentoo yet. That makes me sad.

If I weren't so busy hacking on code, and needing to install libraries easily in a jhbuild for it. I would be tempted to go back.

For now debian and Fedora serve me right.
I said funtoo, which is gentoo except it uses git instead of rsync. But I use Sabayon now, which is gentoo but without the hassle of installing the bare necessities.

Very interested in trying out Sabayon, it looks really cool. Always been to lazy to use Gentoo and have stuck with Arch, but now I'm starting to feel like I am missing out.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #203 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:17:55 »
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #204 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:24:10 »
Very interested in trying out Sabayon, it looks really cool. Always been to lazy to use Gentoo and have stuck with Arch, but now I'm starting to feel like I am missing out.
If you have lots of spare time, gentoo (and its derivatives) are awesome. A have a project in the works for a super light weight and pre-configured funtoo distro. Still in concept, but I hope to start real work on it over the summer.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #205 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:48:06 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

I agree that ubuntu is not what it used to be. It was my os of choice, now I am still searching for a favorite. I don't really like centos, but I work in it every day, so I am used to it.

I miss the easy to use, but no fat distros (like ubuntu when it first came out).

Looking for suggestions.
- I want a nice package manager that has relatively new versions of software (don't want to compile everything).
- simple and fast gui. No special effects to slow things down.
- I live in the terminal and browser, so those are important.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #206 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:50:00 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

I agree that ubuntu is not what it used to be. It was my os of choice, now I am still searching for a favorite. I don't really like centos, but I work in it every day, so I am used to it.

I miss the easy to use, but no fat distros (like ubuntu when it first came out).

Looking for suggestions.
- I want a nice package manager that has relatively new versions of software (don't want to compile everything).
- simple and fast gui. No special effects to slow things down.
- I live in the terminal and browser, so those are important.

Arch Linux sounds like what youre looking for, PM me if you have any questions about it, been using Arch for ages.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #207 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:53:15 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

I agree that ubuntu is not what it used to be. It was my os of choice, now I am still searching for a favorite. I don't really like centos, but I work in it every day, so I am used to it.

I miss the easy to use, but no fat distros (like ubuntu when it first came out).

Looking for suggestions.
- I want a nice package manager that has relatively new versions of software (don't want to compile everything).
- simple and fast gui. No special effects to slow things down.
- I live in the terminal and browser, so those are important.

Arch Linux sounds like what youre looking for, PM me if you have any questions about it, been using Arch for ages.

Ya I have been playing with arch. I switched from it because I was having networking issues (which turned out to be hardware), so I should switch back to it. It seemed pretty good in the short time I was playing with it.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #208 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 20:48:40 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

Very interesting. Ubuntu feisty was one of the distros I cut my teeth on. Haven't used it much since the release of hardy. Checked out the latest release but Unity is not for me.

What flavor were you leading up? A fluxbuntu type or a suite based distro like musix?

Edit : music --> musix ... Autocorrect arggg

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #209 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 20:54:46 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

I agree that ubuntu is not what it used to be. It was my os of choice, now I am still searching for a favorite. I don't really like centos, but I work in it every day, so I am used to it.

I miss the easy to use, but no fat distros (like ubuntu when it first came out).

Looking for suggestions.
- I want a nice package manager that has relatively new versions of software (don't want to compile everything).
- simple and fast gui. No special effects to slow things down.
- I live in the terminal and browser, so those are important.

Arch Linux sounds like what youre looking for, PM me if you have any questions about it, been using Arch for ages.

Ya I have been playing with arch. I switched from it because I was having networking issues (which turned out to be hardware), so I should switch back to it. It seemed pretty good in the short time I was playing with it.

Arch reccomendation seconded for you. Will give you power tune the distro to your liking, good documentation and package management via pacman.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #210 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 20:59:51 »
Debian is a very good alternative to Ubuntu. Ubuntu has become painfully "corporate" and has malware/spyware enabled out of the box. You can turn these tracking features off if you want. I choose to just use another OS.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #211 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 21:04:07 »
Using ubuntu here but I don't really use it much. Just have it running on a Raspberry Pi so I can push my git repo's to it once a week as a backup.  Works great for that purpose.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #212 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 21:06:30 »
I didn't know that they had a Pi version of Ubuntu, or is it just for Arm? Why not use Raspbian?
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #213 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 21:06:37 »
Debian is a very good alternative to Ubuntu. Ubuntu has become painfully "corporate" and has malware/spyware enabled out of the box. You can turn these tracking features off if you want. I choose to just use another OS.

+1. Debian is a classic and still strong for a reason.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #214 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 21:22:08 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

Very interesting. Ubuntu feisty was one of the distros I cut my teeth on. Haven't used it much since the release of hardy. Checked out the latest release but Unity is not for me.

What flavor were you leading up? A fluxbuntu type or a suite based distro like musix?

Edit : music --> musix ... Autocorrect arggg

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #215 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 21:25:43 »
Ubuntu isn't what it used to be. I recommend people that like Ubuntu to switch to debian.

And to think I used to lead an official Ubuntu derivative distro.

Very interesting. Ubuntu feisty was one of the distros I cut my teeth on. Haven't used it much since the release of hardy. Checked out the latest release but Unity is not for me.

What flavor were you leading up? A fluxbuntu type or a suite based distro like musix?

Edit : music --> musix ... Autocorrect arggg

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http://ubuntustudio.org/tour/

It is indeed still around. Just grabbed a fresh (to me) copy of the iso for the stockpile

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #216 on: Wed, 21 May 2014, 21:27:59 »
I didn't know that they had a Pi version of Ubuntu, or is it just for Arm? Why not use Raspbian?

You're right, I must have been thinking of when I had my microserver. It is running Raspbian, derp.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #217 on: Thu, 22 May 2014, 08:11:14 »
Nobody has said gentoo yet. That makes me sad.

If I weren't so busy hacking on code, and needing to install libraries easily in a jhbuild for it. I would be tempted to go back.

For now debian and Fedora serve me right.
I said funtoo, which is gentoo except it uses git instead of rsync. But I use Sabayon now, which is gentoo but without the hassle of installing the bare necessities.

Very interested in trying out Sabayon, it looks really cool. Always been to lazy to use Gentoo and have stuck with Arch, but now I'm starting to feel like I am missing out.
You might be disappointed though. I tried Sabayon last year, but it didn't work out at all. After each reboot, something else didn't work; I had never seen X.Org that broken.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #218 on: Thu, 22 May 2014, 08:39:10 »
Nobody has said gentoo yet. That makes me sad.

If I weren't so busy hacking on code, and needing to install libraries easily in a jhbuild for it. I would be tempted to go back.

For now debian and Fedora serve me right.
I said funtoo, which is gentoo except it uses git instead of rsync. But I use Sabayon now, which is gentoo but without the hassle of installing the bare necessities.

Very interested in trying out Sabayon, it looks really cool. Always been to lazy to use Gentoo and have stuck with Arch, but now I'm starting to feel like I am missing out.

Gentoo is on my list of distros to try. The reason it has not been a priority for me is that is just doesn't seem like the half of a microsecond gained in execution time is worth all of the fuss of compiling everything. Years ago, an FTP server was compromised that was running CentOS that our group maintained. The breach was probably due to a poor configuration and not the core operating system itself. A co-worker thought it would be a good idea to put a hardened gentoo install on the box instead. I appreciate the nod towards security but the initial compile took over 2 days to complete.

Granted, a Gentoo install can be done more traditionally to speed up the process. But as we all know, time = money, and in any production environment, having a 2 day downtime could impact your organization dramatically.

Seems more like a distro for tinkerers--which a lot of us are here :D

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #219 on: Thu, 22 May 2014, 14:02:40 »
my poweredge runs centOS at home.  i tried to make it a LAMP server but that didnt work at all.  i honestly think i will throw Microsoft Server 2008 R2 on it this weekend. sorry i dont think any of you wanted to hear that.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #220 on: Thu, 22 May 2014, 17:14:43 »
my poweredge runs centOS at home.  i tried to make it a LAMP server but that didnt work at all.  i honestly think i will throw Microsoft Server 2008 R2 on it this weekend. sorry i dont think any of you wanted to hear that.

The trick with setting up a lamp stack is that you have to do it all together. If you just install all the components it won't work. You have to setup apache, php and mysql together at the same time otherwise they don't actually know about each other. It is annoying and has bit me in the @55 before.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #221 on: Thu, 22 May 2014, 17:53:58 »
I'm back on Xubuntu right now. CentOS is solid, but I need something a bit more on the bleeding edge, package-wise

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #222 on: Thu, 22 May 2014, 18:02:54 »
Debian whenever i can. leave me with my old and stable packages. and get out of my lawn!

RH at work. yuck.

wife's on ubuntu.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #223 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 00:06:23 »
Gentoo is on my list of distros to try. The reason it has not been a priority for me is that is just doesn't seem like the half of a microsecond gained in execution time is worth all of the fuss of compiling everything. Years ago, an FTP server was compromised that was running CentOS that our group maintained. The breach was probably due to a poor configuration and not the core operating system itself. A co-worker thought it would be a good idea to put a hardened gentoo install on the box instead. I appreciate the nod towards security but the initial compile took over 2 days to complete.

Granted, a Gentoo install can be done more traditionally to speed up the process. But as we all know, time = money, and in any production environment, having a 2 day downtime could impact your organization dramatically.

Seems more like a distro for tinkerers--which a lot of us are here :D

You got that right. It is for tinkerers.

Not only for performance gains, which with today's cpu/memory/ssd isn't much. It is more because you can tinker with the flags everything in your machine is compiled with. You can overlay anything you want. Build a system from scratch with hand-picked components.

I personally like the idea of having all the source code that runs my machine easily available. If you want to tinker with any component, you can just patch against the gentoo package and done.
Most packages have patches to make them software play nice with the system, so the package system is designed to patch -> compile -> run.
Tinker to the most minute detail. It is amazing.

That said, it is time consuming. And a rathole. Just like tweeking your keyboard. Sometimes you just need something you can plug and go. For that you have debian, Ubuntu or Fedora.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #224 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 00:15:40 »
I'm using the latest stable version of Ubuntu (Trusty whatever... 14.04) and it is superb as a Desktop OS.

As for my servers, I run all CentOS release 5.9 (Final).

Most importantly on my servers I run Atomic Secured Linux:

http://www.atomicorp.com/products/asl.html

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #225 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 05:40:12 »
gentoo is on my list of repositories that i tried and abandoned forever.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #226 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 06:05:19 »
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What's that? Backdoors?

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #227 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 08:17:21 »
For a server, maybe. I don't see the point of hardening or antivirus for a desktop box, with how unattractive Linux is as a target to begin with. I've been running Win 7 for years with no protection other than a router's firewall and intelligent browsing habits.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #228 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 08:45:33 »
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in addition to incorporating numerous proprietary security functions and methodologies
What's that? Backdoors?

I'm not sure exactly which of their feature(s) are "proprietary" - and yes - it is a closed source system (....maybe for a security product that isn't a bad thing...).  But the implication is valid: "who can we trust?"!

It's hard nowadays to trust anybody in light of the whole PRISM/NSA thing.  Working in the IT industry...by just using any operating system, website, even open-source software (see Canonical's post: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-We-Have-Root-Trust-Us-294538.shtml we make decisions about who to trust every day. 

Regarding Atomicorp.. seems they are pretty stand-up: http://www.atomicorp.com/company/about-us.html

Personally, I am thankful to have this software protect my servers after seeing just how many (in the *hundreds*) of hack attempts occur every day to each one of my servers!  (And yes this product is for servers primarily).

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #229 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 08:53:55 »
For a server, maybe. I don't see the point of hardening or antivirus for a desktop box, with how unattractive Linux is as a target to begin with. I've been running Win 7 for years with no protection other than a router's firewall and intelligent browsing habits.

I too live dangerously on my dedicated win7 box at home, no AV. It's just a gaming rig though.

I don't recommend other users to run that way however. :D

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #230 on: Fri, 23 May 2014, 13:43:20 »
I just install Gentoo on everything.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #231 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:02:53 »
Started using Elementary OS Luna recently on a 6 year old Dell laptop that I resurrected from the grave. It's quite visually appealing and worked well right out of the gates. Hard pressed to bother with other distros at the moment, other than Slacko Puppy when running from USB drive.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #232 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 07:52:55 »
I messed up my windows 8.1 boot partition pretty bad yesterday so I've been running Linux Mint 16 from a flash drive all day while I wait for the Windows 8.1 ISO to download. I'm super impressed with it. Some of the minor annoyances I had with previous versions of mint and ubuntu are gone and I'm really enjoying it!

I'd make the switch if I didn't need to be on Windows for some of my university stuff... And steam obviously :cool:. When I build my new PC at the end of the year I'll get a dual boot going with one flavour or another.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #233 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 08:05:45 »
I messed up my windows 8.1 boot partition pretty bad yesterday so I've been running Linux Mint 16 from a flash drive all day while I wait for the Windows 8.1 ISO to download. I'm super impressed with it. Some of the minor annoyances I had with previous versions of mint and ubuntu are gone and I'm really enjoying it!

I'd make the switch if I didn't need to be on Windows for some of my university stuff... And steam obviously :cool:. When I build my new PC at the end of the year I'll get a dual boot going with one flavour or another.

There is steam for linux now.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #234 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 08:22:44 »
If, and that's a big if, I was going to use Linux I would be on LMDE 201403.  With MATE desktop.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #235 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 15:09:08 »
I messed up my windows 8.1 boot partition pretty bad yesterday so I've been running Linux Mint 16 from a flash drive all day while I wait for the Windows 8.1 ISO to download. I'm super impressed with it. Some of the minor annoyances I had with previous versions of mint and ubuntu are gone and I'm really enjoying it!

I'd make the switch if I didn't need to be on Windows for some of my university stuff... And steam obviously :cool:. When I build my new PC at the end of the year I'll get a dual boot going with one flavour or another.

There is steam for linux now.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #236 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 16:29:19 »
I messed up my windows 8.1 boot partition pretty bad yesterday so I've been running Linux Mint 16 from a flash drive all day while I wait for the Windows 8.1 ISO to download. I'm super impressed with it. Some of the minor annoyances I had with previous versions of mint and ubuntu are gone and I'm really enjoying it!

I'd make the switch if I didn't need to be on Windows for some of my university stuff... And steam obviously :cool:. When I build my new PC at the end of the year I'll get a dual boot going with one flavour or another.

There is steam for linux now.

There is, but many games don't run, and those that do don't always run as well. And if you're using an AMD card, you might as well not try.

that sucks.  thanks for the knowledge...

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #237 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 16:46:06 »
Windows is still king in proprietary graphics performance but the gap is closing. AMD setups can get a little tricky especially if you have an APU series. The trick is to blacklist the correct modules at boot.

Also don't use xinerama as it 3D is not supported.  You're better off with xrandr anyway imo

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #238 on: Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:21:42 »
[...] so I've been running Linux Mint 16 from a flash drive all day [...]

Something you can't readily do with Windows.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #239 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 02:53:11 »
If, and that's a big if, I was going to use Linux I would be on LMDE 201403.  With MATE desktop.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

mate is overrated.

gnome was undermined a long time ago when i bet apple put moles in the project to trhow away all the good design and UI goals, and replace it with OS9 clones.  ...than the same happened with gnome 3 and osx... anyway, conspiracy-theory-jokes aside, mate does not solve the problem, they only go back to the previous OS9 clone trolling.

the day you use a tiling window manager or any other non-1970 desktop/windows concept... you will be sold.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #241 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 08:25:53 »
If, and that's a big if, I was going to use Linux I would be on LMDE 201403.  With MATE desktop.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

mate is overrated.

gnome was undermined a long time ago when i bet apple put moles in the project to trhow away all the good design and UI goals, and replace it with OS9 clones.  ...than the same happened with gnome 3 and osx... anyway, conspiracy-theory-jokes aside, mate does not solve the problem, they only go back to the previous OS9 clone trolling.

the day you use a tiling window manager or any other non-1970 desktop/windows concept... you will be sold.

This is why I love the Unity desktop. It took the best ideas of a tiling window manager and added smart design decisions to make it work more intuitively for a mainstream audience.

Other than the blot of an engine it runs on. If you are running older hardware it runs real slow.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #242 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 10:51:36 »
If, and that's a big if, I was going to use Linux I would be on LMDE 201403.  With MATE desktop.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

mate is overrated.

gnome was undermined a long time ago when i bet apple put moles in the project to trhow away all the good design and UI goals, and replace it with OS9 clones.  ...than the same happened with gnome 3 and osx... anyway, conspiracy-theory-jokes aside, mate does not solve the problem, they only go back to the previous OS9 clone trolling.

the day you use a tiling window manager or any other non-1970 desktop/windows concept... you will be sold.

Maybe this explains why I like MATE...I was always a big fan of OS9/8/7/6. Never felt the same way about OSX...

Tiling window managers just don't do it for me. I find that having windows behave less like physical objects makes the interface less intuitive and creates a feeling of disempowerment. Tried Unity also and made it about an hour before I decided that I just couldn't deal with it anymore.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #243 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 12:40:01 »
This is why I love the Unity desktop. It took the best ideas of a tiling window manager and added smart design decisions to make it work more intuitively for a mainstream audience.

Can you elaborate a bit on how Unity uses ideas from tiling WMs?  Do you mean the snapping and Super/arrow hotkeys?

I been playing with Xmonad for a few days - and it seems that it is nothing like Unity at all...

(BTW - I also tried the new Gnome desktop as well, but prefer Unity...)

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #244 on: Tue, 27 May 2014, 00:54:34 »
Tiling window managers just don't do it for me. I find that having windows behave less like physical objects makes the interface less intuitive and creates a feeling of disempowerment. Tried Unity also and made it about an hour before I decided that I just couldn't deal with it anymore.

Yeah, osx is total garbage.

But trust me on this one. Tiling window managers are like touch-typing.

Right now you are like someone typing with two indexes fingers. of course you are going to feel limited and threatened by a non-staggered keyboard.... but once you learn to touch type you will love that non-staggered board :)

it is the same with window managers. and text editors. :)  ...maybe it was because i was already using vim's and screen's windows that i like tiling window managers so much... o well. just trust me that it is very similar to the touch typing experience. you feel safe not trying it... but after you get the hang of it, you keep questioning yourself how you lived without every time you see someone that can't.


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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #245 on: Tue, 27 May 2014, 01:00:22 »
It's a shame BumpTop never really saw the light of day.

Gotta wonder what Google has been doing with it all these years.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #246 on: Tue, 27 May 2014, 08:18:30 »
It's a shame BumpTop never really saw the light of day.

Gotta wonder what Google has been doing with it all these years.

They may have scooped it up to avoid future competition. See threat, buy threat, kill threat, no threat :D

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #247 on: Tue, 27 May 2014, 08:22:14 »
Tiling window managers just don't do it for me. I find that having windows behave less like physical objects makes the interface less intuitive and creates a feeling of disempowerment. Tried Unity also and made it about an hour before I decided that I just couldn't deal with it anymore.

Yeah, osx is total garbage.

But trust me on this one. Tiling window managers are like touch-typing.

Right now you are like someone typing with two indexes fingers. of course you are going to feel limited and threatened by a non-staggered keyboard.... but once you learn to touch type you will love that non-staggered board :)

it is the same with window managers. and text editors. :)  ...maybe it was because i was already using vim's and screen's windows that i like tiling window managers so much... o well. just trust me that it is very similar to the touch typing experience. you feel safe not trying it... but after you get the hang of it, you keep questioning yourself how you lived without every time you see someone that can't.

Tiling WMs are really great. Currently I am using i3 but there are others out there. The configs can be tailored to make it perform and behave exactly as desired.

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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #248 on: Tue, 27 May 2014, 20:22:01 »
Awesome WM master race reporting in. xmonad and bspwm are awesome too.
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Re: What Linux Distro do the Linux users of GH use?
« Reply #249 on: Wed, 28 May 2014, 05:16:24 »
I've been using i3 for over a year now, and I love it.

However, I do miss having a set amount of workspaces that I can just flit through.
That's kinda why I miss WMFS 1 so much.

i3 with WMFS 1's  panel would be the bee's knees.
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