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Offline Leslieann

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 22:27:05 »
meanwhile...
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GeForce+RTX+3080&_sacat=0&_sop=16
Proof that people are morons.

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It's possible some of these are businesses, maybe A.I., video editing, flight sim companies, but also companies that make aftermarket air and waterblocks needs these or they will be behind later, but there's also a lot of stupid people out there.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #101 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 01:34:24 »

it doesn't make sense to get a 1080ti  if you CAN fordz a 3070 or 3080. 

1080Ti  ONLY IF @ maximum p00r like Tp4.  Tp4 is really only using it for video playback.

well we do not have the same definition of poor, i can't afford a 200 euro GPU and food but i do not think of myself as poor or "@ maximum p00r" there are far worse everywhere
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 21:02:15 »
So it now looks like people used automated bots to buy, how many were scalpers has yet to be determined.

People are also using bots to automatically bid up 3080 cards on ebay, they aren't paying those amounts, it's just to screw with the auction, probably using hijacked accounts. EVGA has new cards going out weekly so all you need to do is delay the scalpers a week or two and the prices will start to tank back to what they should be. Unfortunately people have used this same bot system to wreck charity auctions.

Eidt:
The sellers are now fighting the bots by artificially inflating the numbers again. The reason being that they don't want to go through the hassle of a non-paying bidder which can take days or a week or two. They would rather pay the Ebay fees and resell the card again quickly.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 19 September 2020, 21:43:42 »
There's all these obvious fake joke auctions now. I see a dog, some boobs, someone flipping off the camera. What an embarrassment for eBay.

The worst are these *******s adding charity benefits to their joke auctions. God I hate this planet so much.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 07:30:35 »
, but I mostly want more power for encoding  and rendering.

See if you can buy cloud service for that, it's way faster, time/cost efficient to have your render done at the data center.

It doesn't make sense to wait 3 hrs for a render at home when the cloud can poof it out in 1 minute.

Right but cloud services can't also get me better gaming performance. Plus there aren't cloud solutions that I like for the work I do. Anyway, it's all just hobby work. I'm not losing money if I wait for a 3 hour render to finish. Squishy is patient.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 16:08:14 »
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 16:51:32 »
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D

3080 Phinixx.. 3080..


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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 17:13:06 »
and here I am just dreaming of getting more than 19fps on medium settings while playing RDR2 :(

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 17:58:31 »
and here I am just dreaming of getting more than 19fps on medium settings while playing RDR2 :(

almost @ 24fps for that filmic look.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 01:42:24 »
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D

that's a good plan to sell off your 2070 super, but all the 30xx series cards have been so hard to get a hold of. i only know one friend who has one so far, and he got it through the nvidia employee gear store. you can tell how hard they are to get a hold of by looking at the scalped price of the 3080's.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 01:51:46 »
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
have you got your buy bot ready? or are you hopping for nVidia to not be ****s and send enough cards out that the scalpers will not keep up?
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 02:57:50 »
I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D

that's a good plan to sell off your 2070 super, but all the 30xx series cards have been so hard to get a hold of. i only know one friend who has one so far, and he got it through the nvidia employee gear store. you can tell how hard they are to get a hold of by looking at the scalped price of the 3080's.

I know:( I hope I'll catch one, K600 I have in my PC just now (£15 from ebay) will run my desktop and simple adventure games for now, till I get 3070.

I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D

3080 Phinixx.. 3080..



Naah, 3080 is sweet, but too expensive, 3070 price range is enough for me. I had top card before, 980Ti and then 1080Ti. I'm getting old now, less gaming and hardware bragging, so 3070 will be fine for my 4K casual gaming:)

I managed to sell my 2070 Super for same price as 3070, so will try to grab one in 8 days.
For me it is simple swap, same money, 2070S -> 2080Ti jump in performance.
I wonder how many of those 3070 cards nividia will release on first day.
I'll be running Quadro K600 for now, at least I can have my desktop in 4K :D
have you got your buy bot ready? or are you hopping for nVidia to not be ****s and send enough cards out that the scalpers will not keep up?

No:( I'm only hoping to buy one using my own hands and mouse:(

Does nvidia do anything not to let those bots buy cards on their site?
If I knew how to set up up, I would, just to get my 3070:(
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 03:28:00 »
Does nvidia do anything not to let those bots buy cards on their site?
i was just joking, hopefully, nVidia said, after the 1st batch was all sold, that they will implement a CAPTCHA to prevent that, although like for nintendo scalpers are good for business so how hard are they going to try to fight them remain to be seen but as team red as leak a document in which they seem very adamant to stop the bots hopefully nVidia will do the same, or they may lose market shares if AMD is telling the truth about their cards
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 08:59:04 »
Well, they release 3070 on nvidia site 5 minutes late.
Buy Now button transferred you to Scan UK shop, which site was immediately slowed down, going to checkout took 40 minutes after it wiped your basket. So there was no way to buy it.
Don't understand how retailer cannot prepare their system for such releases...
Mother****ers.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 09:08:17 »
Well, they release 3070 on nvidia site 5 minutes late.
Buy Now button transferred you to Scan UK shop, which site was immediately slowed down, going to checkout took 40 minutes after it wiped your basket. So there was no way to buy it.
Don't understand how retailer cannot prepare their system for such releases...
Mother****ers.
i do not think they even can, scalpers use bot nets to slow the site down even the beefiest supercomputer would end up throttled by the connection to the internet, and while they overwhelm the server they can buy the stock, dimensioning for that would require to overall all of the UK (for your case) communication infrastructure. they can mitigate but not prepare fully, and it will be the same for all next gpu launch, a few peoples saw they could make big bank out of that, they will continue...
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #115 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 09:28:32 »
Well, they release 3070 on nvidia site 5 minutes late.
Buy Now button transferred you to Scan UK shop, which site was immediately slowed down, going to checkout took 40 minutes after it wiped your basket. So there was no way to buy it.
Don't understand how retailer cannot prepare their system for such releases...
Mother****ers.
i do not think they even can, scalpers use bot nets to slow the site down even the beefiest supercomputer would end up throttled by the connection to the internet, and while they overwhelm the server they can buy the stock, dimensioning for that would require to overall all of the UK (for your case) communication infrastructure. they can mitigate but not prepare fully, and it will be the same for all next gpu launch, a few peoples saw they could make big bank out of that, they will continue...

Yep. Mother*&%#@%$^#($*%^#*(&....  :mad:
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 09:47:42 »
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 10:16:13 »
6900 XT  ??
well with the hype around it the problem will be the same, scalpers are going cripple the servers to buy them all and sell them at very high profit, the only way to make them stop is to never buy their cards, so that they lose money on dead inventory, but we all know that it will not happen, at worse they need to lose .5 usd per card to sell them faster than hot cakes and that will be largely offset by the money they made before dropping the price.

i may be a tad pessimistic today though, given current world events, and personal life events
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 10:18:28 »
i may be a tad pessimistic today though, given current world events, and personal life events

Tp4 also deeply saddened by the Sharp TV-debacle.  Ordered the Sony 65 x750h though, hopefully it wurks gud'   Should be here Saturday.

Come on Japangineers, don'fail me nao.

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« Reply #121 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 10:26:27 »
i may be a tad pessimistic today though, given current world events, and personal life events

Tp4 also deeply saddened by the Sharp TV-debacle.  Ordered the Sony 65 x750h though, hopefully it wurks gud'   Should be here Saturday.

Come on Japangineers, don'fail me nao.

historically sony has made quite a few improvement to TV technology, although i have not looked at TV for a while now, and the last was a Trinitron for my playstation and playstation 2 (from what i have read online best screens for them)... so my knowledge may be a bit antiquated :) and all the best things come from japan :)
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 12:03:43 »
slept right through the 3070 launch, looks like i didn't miss out on a whole lot.

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« Reply #123 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 13:03:33 »
slept right through the 3070 launch, looks like i didn't miss out on a whole lot.

did peeps get to order this time ?

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« Reply #124 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 14:27:49 »
F*** no.
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« Reply #125 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:57:59 »
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:35:00 »
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #127 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 21:58:23 »
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?
I guess you missed the stats on delivery rates (vid below)
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.

I'm totally convinced at this point these cards were rushed, big time.
No supply, 3rd party vendors (AIBs) not given gpus till last minute, drivers given to testers before AIBs, crashing... I think they knew AMD had something and they rushed this to beat them to market.

Skip to 32minutes 50 seconds (I tried to link to the time but it doesn't work). Seriously this is bad if you want Nvidia.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 03 November 2020, 00:35:53 »
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?
I guess you missed the stats on delivery rates (vid below)
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.

I'm totally convinced at this point these cards were rushed, big time.
No supply, 3rd party vendors (AIBs) not given gpus till last minute, drivers given to testers before AIBs, crashing... I think they knew AMD had something and they rushed this to beat them to market.
Whaat a company rushing an unfinished product to try to undercut the competition, never heard of that (example: intel 10th gen, saints row 4, intel Pentium D) although i do not remember nVidia having to do it.
and if the 6000 series is as good as it is said to be there is chances that scalpers may want to get rid of their 3080/3070 stock, so maybe not that bad (although in the best case scenario it is still only 30% will get them)
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:22:22 »
Do we know when nvidia is going to fill the void with those cards again?
I guess you missed the stats on delivery rates (vid below)
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.

I'm totally convinced at this point these cards were rushed, big time.
No supply, 3rd party vendors (AIBs) not given gpus till last minute, drivers given to testers before AIBs, crashing... I think they knew AMD had something and they rushed this to beat them to market.

Skip to 32minutes 50 seconds (I tried to link to the time but it doesn't work). Seriously this is bad if you want Nvidia.

Sad days indeed.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:31:23 »
do like me, buy a last gen card, i try to get a 5600xt (although being cheap makes it harder than it needs to be...) plenty of stock of those :)
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #131 on: Tue, 03 November 2020, 12:04:08 »
do like me, buy a last gen card, i try to get a 5600xt (although being cheap makes it harder than it needs to be...) plenty of stock of those :)

yeah this is the right way to do it. you get sucked into the launch hype of a new product and in cases like this you're just hunting endlessly for something you can't even get your hands on. promise it's not even worth your time. it's a damn graphics card kids

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 12:00:25 »
Is there any chance nvidia will get those 3070s back in stock this year?
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #133 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 21:04:41 »
There has been a bit of a surge of Nvidia cards, maybe they held inventory back in case AMD actually has something but most have gone toward system integrators.
Also an MSI factory went up in flames the other day, so I mean, that has to be at least 4 high end Nvidia cards lost.

What worries me is we've been so starved for cards for the last few years (due to inventory and lack of competition) that it could be months before things settle, not having a 3060 is also driving 3070 sales. I really hope AMD delivers, if so they can not only shift the market but would send a lot of cards into the sencond hand market.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 03:56:04 »
There has been a bit of a surge of Nvidia cards, maybe they held inventory back in case AMD actually has something but most have gone toward system integrators.
Also an MSI factory went up in flames the other day, so I mean, that has to be at least 4 high end Nvidia cards lost.

What worries me is we've been so starved for cards for the last few years (due to inventory and lack of competition) that it could be months before things settle, not having a 3060 is also driving 3070 sales. I really hope AMD delivers, if so they can not only shift the market but would send a lot of cards into the sencond hand market.

I'm hoping for 3070FE before christmas...
If not, I may catch that 6800, even if its extra money. It would be my first red card... :rolleyes:
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #135 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 04:19:58 »
At best Nvidia is only fulfilling about 15% of orders and this is after claiming they were manufacturing since June.

Hmm, I heard from Gamers Nexus (IIRC) that they only began manufacturing in August, who was commenting on the narrow timeframes card makers have to design, test (which is hamstrung by Nvidia with their limited pre-release drivers) then produce them. It's kind of crazy how quickly they have to get stuff sorted.

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #136 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 08:32:36 »
I'm hoping for 3070FE before christmas...
If not, I may catch that 6800, even if its extra money. It would be my first red card... :rolleyes:
If you plan on going ITX, AMD will be a lot easier, they're smaller and less heat.
If you use Linux, go AMD, F-Nvidia on Linux, it's worse than AMD ever was on Windows.
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.

If you use Windows, it may be a toss-up, AMD drivers have always been less good on Windows but they are working on it. Usually what I found was every other driver was good, and the odds were always terrible, but again, they are working on making them better.

If you're considering the 6800 be sure to check the XT. If you can get the 6800 you aren't far from the the XT, it's another jump from the 3070 but it's a lot more card for little extra. Either is good though and any of these are better than a card you can't even find on shelves. I don't expect Nvidia's supply issues to fix anytime soon, we're already into black November, people always save and try to get a deal this time of year, that means lots of people with money burning a hole in their pocket. It's sort of the perfect storm so keep expectations low.

Above all, wait for reviews.

Hmm, I heard from Gamers Nexus (IIRC) that they only began manufacturing in August, who was commenting on the narrow timeframes card makers have to design, test (which is hamstrung by Nvidia with their limited pre-release drivers) then produce them. It's kind of crazy how quickly they have to get stuff sorted.
Maybe it was that they stopped making 2080s in june... They did something in June.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #137 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:43:58 »
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.

For what card(s)?  My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #138 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 09:52:19 »
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.

For what card(s)?  My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
you are using the opensource or proprietary drivers? the opensource ones will not crash on new kernels as it is built into it but have lesser performances as nVidia does not want to help develop it
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #139 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 10:03:16 »
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.

For what card(s)?  My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
Pascal has had few issues w/ Linux installs/distros from my experience, but Newer gens seem to have issues. 
Around June was when Nvidia started messing w/ drivers more frequently again due to new game betas and launches.  I know I had some bugs even in w10 w/ my 1080ti, but my 1050 was unscathed (which I find weird but hey).

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 05:10:05 »
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.

For what card(s)?  My 1050ti is working fine in Arch with 5.9 and I've done nothing special.
you are using the opensource or proprietary drivers? the opensource ones will not crash on new kernels as it is built into it but have lesser performances as nVidia does not want to help develop it
I'm using the proprietary driver I think?  Pretty sure it was the only viable option when I did this install years ago.
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server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation

I know I had some bugs even in w10 w/ my 1080ti, but my 1050 was unscathed (which I find weird but hey).
Guess I got lucky, must be something advanced they disabled in the lower end cards which they decided to break.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 05:27:00 »
In command line try running (no sudo or anything):
nvidia-smi

If you are using the Nvidia driver it should tell you the version, if not it will error.
"NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running."
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 06:06:48 »
Thanks, proprietary driver confirmed:
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« Reply #143 on: Wed, 11 November 2020, 07:45:23 »
There's at least 8 versions of 455.38.

If I remember right (guessing based on my logs), 455.38-5 was fine on the 5.9.3 kernel but on 5.9.4 it completely died. Dropping to the Nvidia 455.28-(7?) driver worked until the kernel went to 5.9.6, at which point I dropped to the non-proprietary drivers just to get up and running, I didn't feel like messing with it anymore once I saw the alert about not using them. 455.38-7 and -8 are now out, both are experimental and 7 has already been deprecated.

I have a new SSD coming later today so I can experiment a bit more after I backup this drive for the move, I didn't want to bother just before an upgrade. Switching between proprietary and non causes my entire desktop and taskbars to get jumbled.
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #144 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 08:50:59 »
I'm hoping for 3070FE before christmas...
If not, I may catch that 6800, even if its extra money. It would be my first red card... :rolleyes:
If you plan on going ITX, AMD will be a lot easier, they're smaller and less heat.
If you use Linux, go AMD, F-Nvidia on Linux, it's worse than AMD ever was on Windows.
We've been waiting on an Nvidia driver that's compatible with the 5.9 kernel for several weeks now. yay.

If you use Windows, it may be a toss-up, AMD drivers have always been less good on Windows but they are working on it. Usually what I found was every other driver was good, and the odds were always terrible, but again, they are working on making them better.

If you're considering the 6800 be sure to check the XT. If you can get the 6800 you aren't far from the the XT, it's another jump from the 3070 but it's a lot more card for little extra. Either is good though and any of these are better than a card you can't even find on shelves. I don't expect Nvidia's supply issues to fix anytime soon, we're already into black November, people always save and try to get a deal this time of year, that means lots of people with money burning a hole in their pocket. It's sort of the perfect storm so keep expectations low.

Above all, wait for reviews.

Hmm, I heard from Gamers Nexus (IIRC) that they only began manufacturing in August, who was commenting on the narrow timeframes card makers have to design, test (which is hamstrung by Nvidia with their limited pre-release drivers) then produce them. It's kind of crazy how quickly they have to get stuff sorted.
Maybe it was that they stopped making 2080s in june... They did something in June.

I have ITX case, plus need to have fans on one side, so 3080 fe is out. Also 2 slot fat only, 305mm long max.
Case is Dr Zaber Sentry.

AMD could be an option, 6800 or even 6800xt.
However, I dont know how they do RT. Is it same as nvidia?
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #145 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 08:52:26 »
They is doin' dx12 Raytracn',  asssssuming console gamez will actually push on the feature, Amd should come out of the gate sooonish w/ m0ar rayzes

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #146 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 04:51:16 »
They is doin' dx12 Raytracn',  asssssuming console gamez will actually push on the feature, Amd should come out of the gate sooonish w/ m0ar rayzes

quite strange, i do not think PS5 would use D3D as it likely is an other BSD platform, so vulkan or sony API, if Vulkan RT could grow it would be great for linux/bsd/osX gamers
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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #147 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 08:20:40 »
Waasssaaaa b*tches!  :D

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Re: yiiyargteeEhkss 3090 OH MY GOD <Updated>
« Reply #148 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 09:38:53 »
Waasssaaaa b*tches!  :D

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Next - LG CX48 :-*

Need to pick a HDMI 2.1 cable for these two.

TP, you're the expert, is this one ok?
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Have bought ugreen cables before, they've been good.

IDK if you guys have monoprice, but they take their cable ratings seriously, so if they say it works with 2.1, it will hit those impedance values.

Other companies might just take their shorter cables and say, yea 2.1, but in reality, they're not @ spec

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« Reply #149 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 16:51:40 »
Waasssaaaa b*tches!  :D

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Need to pick a HDMI 2.1 cable for these two.

TP, you're the expert, is this one ok?
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Have bought ugreen cables before, they've been good.

IDK if you guys have monoprice, but they take their cable ratings seriously, so if they say it works with 2.1, it will hit those impedance values.

Other companies might just take their shorter cables and say, yea 2.1, but in reality, they're not @ spec


TP approved, awesome then :)
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