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« Reply #50 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 11:42:38 »
Are these row 1? Just wondering if I can use them in the gmk profile for my arrow cluster

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« Reply #51 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 12:15:11 »
wait when can i get that 10key pad?
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« Reply #52 on: Wed, 08 June 2016, 18:32:38 »
I still can't decide if I need 3 or 5 of these...

Same  :-\
 
Hmm tough choice! Roll a dice!  :))

Are these row 1? Just wondering if I can use them in the gmk profile for my arrow cluster
 
Hey mate, they're either row 1 or row 4 (different sites tell me different things) - whichever the escape key row is!

wait when can i get that 10key pad?
 
Currently the project is waiting on software unfortunately :( Machine had to change around a few things to get it to do what we want it, definitely getting closer to a release date though! :D

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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 05:43:36 »
UPDATE:

Hi all, I really don't want to wait till July 1st to start manufacturing, I want to get these out to people as soon as possible.

So I'm moving the deadline/end date forward to June 20th 1 PM (GMT+10)

Here is a video of how the metal keycap sounds in comparison to plastic keycaps:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGbelG0B6sD/?taken-by=ramaworks
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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 07:50:15 »
Planning to order. I'll make sure to do so before the 20th.

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 08:00:33 »
Planning to order. I'll make sure to do so before the 20th.

No rush mate, cheers!  :-*
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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 08:04:08 »
Quick question, RAMA, is it kosher for me to try and get sort of a local group buy going for your keycaps? (I'd be advertising on the Canadian equivilant of Craigslist) I'm not sure what your rules are on offsite advertising.

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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 08:09:14 »
Quick question, RAMA, is it kosher for me to try and get sort of a local group buy going for your keycaps? (I'd be advertising on the Canadian equivilant of Craigslist) I'm not sure what your rules are on offsite advertising.

Mate, I'd love for you to do that - shipping costs are the worst! Go for it bro, hope you can collect a few people to split the costs and save!  :)
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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 08:28:25 »
UPDATE:

Hi all, I really don't want to wait till July 1st to start manufacturing, I want to get these out to people as soon as possible.

So I'm moving the deadline/end date forward to June 20th 1 PM (GMT+10)

Here is a video of how the metal keycap sounds in comparison to plastic keycaps:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGbelG0B6sD/?taken-by=ramaworks

I guess I better hurry up and decide now!  Love the video too Rama :thumb:
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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 09:08:28 »
Ah welp, posting didn't really work there. I'll try another way to get visibility.

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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 09:18:01 »
Quick question, RAMA, is it kosher for me to try and get sort of a local group buy going for your keycaps? (I'd be advertising on the Canadian equivilant of Craigslist) I'm not sure what your rules are on offsite advertising.

Ah welp, posting didn't really work there. I'll try another way to get visibility.

Why would people interested in custom key caps be on Craigslist/kijiji?  :confused:

Geekhack is exactly the correct place to be advertising a Candaian Proxy service.

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 09 June 2016, 09:32:06 »
Quick question, RAMA, is it kosher for me to try and get sort of a local group buy going for your keycaps? (I'd be advertising on the Canadian equivilant of Craigslist) I'm not sure what your rules are on offsite advertising.

Ah welp, posting didn't really work there. I'll try another way to get visibility.

Why would people interested in custom key caps be on Craigslist/kijiji?  :confused:

Geekhack is exactly the correct place to be advertising a Candaian Proxy service.

Well, you'd be surprised how many people you can sell "bling" to. And not everyone who's into keyboards is on either GH or Reddit.

And I know, I'd love to do that but I'm currently not remotely close to anyone who's I'm able to do a pickup from.

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« Reply #62 on: Tue, 14 June 2016, 20:07:17 »
Well, you'd be surprised how many people you can sell "bling" to. And not everyone who's into keyboards is on either GH or Reddit.

And I know, I'd love to do that but I'm currently not remotely close to anyone who's I'm able to do a pickup from.

E: Sorry, sleepy.


Ah damn dude :( Any luck?

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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 14 June 2016, 20:37:01 »
Well, you'd be surprised how many people you can sell "bling" to. And not everyone who's into keyboards is on either GH or Reddit.

And I know, I'd love to do that but I'm currently not remotely close to anyone who's I'm able to do a pickup from.

E: Sorry, sleepy.


Ah damn dude :( Any luck?

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No, D: I'm going to have to sit this one out. I may have just bought another keycap kit...

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 14 June 2016, 20:39:50 »
No, D: I'm going to have to sit this one out. I may have just bought another keycap kit...


Oh damn, no worries man!  :D  NICE, what kit did you get yourself? :D
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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 14 June 2016, 22:16:46 »
No, D: I'm going to have to sit this one out. I may have just bought another keycap kit...


Oh damn, no worries man!  :D  NICE, what kit did you get yourself? :D

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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 15 June 2016, 03:29:22 »
DSA Eve's in the mail, along with 2 other artisans. That blew my keyboard budget. :)
OH dude that's awesome though! Nice work, I gotta get more DSA myself :D
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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 15 June 2016, 04:43:14 »
Just checking in here!  So excited :)

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« Reply #68 on: Wed, 15 June 2016, 05:00:37 »
Just checking in here!  So excited :)


Me too Vito, me too mate, off to manufacturing soon!  :D :D
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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 16 June 2016, 01:26:05 »
Can you do a 1.5u key  ;D

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54759.msg2198491#msg2198491

oh wow, that project looks awesome dude!!!
Damn your beautiful photos btw, saw one of your photos on Reddit (with the security fob and keychain)
Ended up buying both  :)) :))


For sure man, if there's enough demand for it, I'll definitely give it a shot. I actually need some 2u's if anything :P


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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (deadline moved closer!)
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 16 June 2016, 02:04:26 »
Got the first piece of the QAZ30 in!



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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 16 June 2016, 08:22:14 »
Got the first piece of the QAZ30 in!

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 16 June 2016, 09:40:26 »
I'm finally in for some more aluminum goodness!  I like the choice of grey too as it should work with a lot of different sets :thumb:
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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 16 June 2016, 18:04:23 »
Wow, that's gonna be kickass when it's done!
Oh thanks heaps dude, cannot wait to get it all together and going  :D Forgot how small this thing was after seeing it CAD during the design period. Looked huge on screen! It's TINY!

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That's going too far!

Hahaha think about all the possibilities  :))

I'm finally in for some more aluminum goodness!  I like the choice of grey too as it should work with a lot of different sets :thumb:

Awesome thanks heaps once again mate!!!  :D 3 days left now! Cannot wait to get it manufactured!

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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 17 June 2016, 12:05:24 »
Ordered a set of 5. :)


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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 17 June 2016, 17:36:04 »
This Rama guy is so upbeat and positive, I can't NOT participate.

In for 1.  This will sit proudly on my GH-122 once I complete it.   :thumb:

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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 00:25:18 »
Ordered a set of 5. :)


Wow thanks boo  ;) :-*  Appreciate it heaps! Super keen to get these going to manufacturing on Monday :D

This Rama guy is so upbeat and positive, I can't NOT participate.

In for 1.  This will sit proudly on my GH-122 once I complete it.   :thumb:
 
Oh damn, thanks dude, always try to keep positive! Thanks for the support bro!

Going to look great on the GH-122 :D Huge board! Can't wait to see it all come together  :thumb:


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« Reply #79 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 00:36:41 »
Got the first piece of the QAZ30 in!

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« Reply #80 on: Sat, 18 June 2016, 00:53:35 »
Got the first piece of the QAZ30 in!

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Something about that makes me
Want to touch it, hold it, possibly lick

I've been doing all three for the past hour  ;)

Haha it came out really nicely, very happy with it - cannot wait to get it all assembled to it's final form :o
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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 19 June 2016, 20:34:27 »
Just a little under 12 hours left now!  :o
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« Reply #82 on: Sun, 19 June 2016, 22:22:18 »
I hope this tips  :thumb:

Is there any chance of adding a 4% PCB to an order?  ^-^

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« Reply #83 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 00:15:15 »
I hope this tips  :thumb:

Is there any chance of adding a 4% PCB to an order?  ^-^

Sure thing dude, I got a few more extras when I got some to send out to the Seattle meetup :D I will chuck it in!  :D
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« Reply #84 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 06:02:40 »
I hope this tips  :thumb:

Is there any chance of adding a 4% PCB to an order?  ^-^

Sure thing dude, I got a few more extras when I got some to send out to the Seattle meetup :D I will chuck it in!  :D
YEEEEE! Got a friend who was asking for a macro keyboard at work, going to try and get them into building :D

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« Reply #85 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 07:30:08 »
I hope this tips  :thumb:

Is there any chance of adding a 4% PCB to an order?  ^-^

Sure thing dude, I got a few more extras when I got some to send out to the Seattle meetup :D I will chuck it in!  :D
YEEEEE! Got a friend who was asking for a macro keyboard at work, going to try and get them into building :D

OHHHHH nice!! Convert as many people as you can Nathan! :P
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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 08:07:26 »
I just wanted to stop by and say that your renders are spectacular :eek:

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« Reply #87 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 08:38:22 »
I just wanted to stop by and say that your renders are spectacular :o

Oh thanks heaps mate!
Rendering is super important in my career to portray/present my designs before they're manufactured, so I appreciate the kind words!!  ;D 



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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 09:52:29 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 09:54:57 »
Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.
I have pestered Rama on several occasions about this. He doesn't even have a cherry profile set yet, but is getting one soon!

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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:15:35 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

I use my R1 cap with an EnjoyPBT set which are Cherry profile and it stands just a little taller than Cherry profile.  Using it daily I don't notice any difference but I am using mine as an Esc key, so you might run into issues if you were using them elsewhere.  I'm also not a "serious" enthusiast so I don't really care as much :D

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:24:48 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

I use my R1 cap with an EnjoyPBT set which are Cherry profile and it stands just a little taller than Cherry profile.  Using it daily I don't notice any difference but I am using mine as an Esc key, so you might run into issues if you were using them elsewhere.  I'm also not a "serious" enthusiast so I don't really care as much :D

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Sorry about that "serious" comment. Serious or not, I think it would be nice to have a Cherry profile version that will match up 100% with GMK or PBT sets that are in that profile, rather than OEM profile. :)

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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:25:09 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

I use my R1 cap with an EnjoyPBT set which are Cherry profile and it stands just a little taller than Cherry profile.  Using it daily I don't notice any difference but I am using mine as an Esc key, so you might run into issues if you were using them elsewhere.  I'm also not a "serious" enthusiast so I don't really care as much :D

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I don't think it'll bother people if they put it on the Esc of TKLs, etc. I'm waiting for Cherry because I put artisans on 60% as well, and all of my sets are now in Cherry profile, so the OEM will clash.

Otherwise, I don't think it's too big of an issue. It's not like it's stopped people from collecting ClickClack's blanks.  :rolleyes:

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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:34:07 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

I use my R1 cap with an EnjoyPBT set which are Cherry profile and it stands just a little taller than Cherry profile.  Using it daily I don't notice any difference but I am using mine as an Esc key, so you might run into issues if you were using them elsewhere.  I'm also not a "serious" enthusiast so I don't really care as much :D

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I don't think it'll bother people if they put it on the Esc of TKLs, etc. I'm waiting for Cherry because I put artisans on 60% as well, and all of my sets are now in Cherry profile, so the OEM will clash.

Otherwise, I don't think it's too big of an issue. It's not like it's stopped people from collecting ClickClack's blanks.  :rolleyes:

I don't think you understand my point of view. Of course it would be alright to mix and match whatever, but if RAMA could offer us Cherry profile, then that would even be better from the end user's perspective, as you always want to have as many options as possible. Just a suggestion for him to cater to more people. :)

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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:34:32 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

I use my R1 cap with an EnjoyPBT set which are Cherry profile and it stands just a little taller than Cherry profile.  Using it daily I don't notice any difference but I am using mine as an Esc key, so you might run into issues if you were using them elsewhere.  I'm also not a "serious" enthusiast so I don't really care as much :D

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Sorry about that "serious" comment. Serious or not, I think it would be nice to have a Cherry profile version that will match up 100% with GMK or PBT sets that are in that profile, rather than OEM profile. :)

Nothing to be sorry about, some people are more serious than others about things like this and I just happen to be one that doesn't care too much :)

Rome does have a good point though as I was just thinking about full size and TKL keyboards, but having it off on a 60% or smaller would definitely be distracting and kind of annoying.
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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:37:55 »
I would probably buy one if it was in Cherry profile, but I haven't used OEM profile and don't have a set of keycaps or keyboard that uses it.

Maybe consider making a Cherry profile and a lot more serious enthusiasts will be on board.

I use my R1 cap with an EnjoyPBT set which are Cherry profile and it stands just a little taller than Cherry profile.  Using it daily I don't notice any difference but I am using mine as an Esc key, so you might run into issues if you were using them elsewhere.  I'm also not a "serious" enthusiast so I don't really care as much :D

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I don't think it'll bother people if they put it on the Esc of TKLs, etc. I'm waiting for Cherry because I put artisans on 60% as well, and all of my sets are now in Cherry profile, so the OEM will clash.

Otherwise, I don't think it's too big of an issue. It's not like it's stopped people from collecting ClickClack's blanks.  :rolleyes:

I don't think you understand my point of view. Of course it would be alright to mix and match whatever, but if RAMA could offer us Cherry profile, then that would even be better from the end user's perspective, as you always want to have as many options as possible. Just a suggestion for him to cater to more people. :)

I completely understand your point of view, which is why I mentioned that it won't be as big of an issue if people used it on the Esc of TKLs, since that lone key is separated from the rest of the keys and the profile wouldn't be as noticed as much.

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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:47:03 »
Haha, all good guys. Regardless this is a pretty cool keycap. Just wanted to make a request for our people. :)

My favourite keyboard layouts are 75%, 1800, and I would love to have something for it. :thumb:

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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:48:08 »
Def want one as well. I think it might be in the works, as well as the TMX version.

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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 10:59:45 »
Haha, all good guys. Regardless this is a pretty cool keycap. Just wanted to make a request for our people. :)

My favourite keyboard layouts are 75%, 1800, and I would love to have something for it. :thumb:

Rama seems really good with requests and has made changes pretty often it seems, so I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

And speaking of 1800 layout, what is a good board to give it a try?  I think I would really like one at work but don't know which one would be good to start with.
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Re: RAMA WAVE ANODIZED SPACE GREY CNC KEYCAP (12 Hours left!)
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 20 June 2016, 11:29:38 »
Haha, all good guys. Regardless this is a pretty cool keycap. Just wanted to make a request for our people. :)

My favourite keyboard layouts are 75%, 1800, and I would love to have something for it. :thumb:

Rama seems really good with requests and has made changes pretty often it seems, so I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

And speaking of 1800 layout, what is a good board to give it a try?  I think I would really like one at work but don't know which one would be good to start with.

I'd rather not chat on someone's thread and derail it too much, but check out Cherry 1800 cases with Leeku 1800 PCB. It looks original but with the added benefits of all the custom keyboard customization (layouts, keymapping), as well as backlight support.

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