[Oddforge] VE.A

[swangful]

From where/when is this quote?

DM. That wasn't the whole message, and OF is hopeful, so stay tuned, but I don't want to throw them under the bus by giving out any specifics

Hopefuily soon, I havn't seen OP online since feb apparently. The demand seems to be here!

[alienman82]

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[zefyr]

you have to get his contact for kakaotalk if you really want to be able to contact him.

I do not use kakaotalk
People call me weirdo.
and to me, that sounds like "cool".

[swangful]

you have to get his contact for kakaotalk if you really want to be able to contact him.

I do not use kakaotalk
People call me weirdo.
and to me, that sounds like "cool".

Do you have any extra VE.As?
Or news for a round 2?

[alienman82]

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[dead_pixel_design]

Do you have any extra VE.As?
Or news for a round 2?

There are no extra VE.As, all of the produced models were purchased and shippid, and there is not going to be a round two but Vefyr has advised he is looking into a second version, as of which there are no details about

[alienman82]

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[swangful]

if you really want one, put up the cash, it's going to be a while if and when we see anything.

otherwise there is the ergodox .

Hmm..what is the aftermarket asking for these days?

[dubious]

if you really want one, put up the cash, it's going to be a while if and when we see anything.

otherwise there is the ergodox .

Hmm..what is the aftermarket asking for these days?

There is one for sale on /r/mechmarket for $650 (assembled, lubed, sip-socketed) $750 with tenting stand
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5z248j/usca_h_cleanout_sale_artisans_fugu_bbv2_reapers/

[swangful]

if you really want one, put up the cash, it's going to be a while if and when we see anything.

otherwise there is the ergodox .

Hmm..what is the aftermarket asking for these days?

There is one for sale on /r/mechmarket for $650 (assembled, lubed, sip-socketed) $750 with tenting stand
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5z248j/usca_h_cleanout_sale_artisans_fugu_bbv2_reapers/

Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.

[jal]

Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.

You won't see one much cheaper. I bought one in the MD group buy, and with the tenting stand and a spare PCB, the cost was a bit over $600. So add switches and rarity[1], and there you go.

[1] IIRC, there were about 100 sold in the GB, plus whatever was sold elsewhere.

[swangful]

Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.

You won't see one much cheaper. I bought one in the MD group buy, and with the tenting stand and a spare PCB, the cost was a bit over $600. So add switches and rarity[1], and there you go.

[1] IIRC, there were about 100 sold in the GB, plus whatever was sold elsewhere.

Thanks for the price breakdown! helps a lot with insight

[FoC_Tow]

...
We actually have plan for next version of VE.A.
Our new VE.A has other surface, not anodizing.
...
But as always it is just plan, we dont guarantee anything.
...

Really hoping there will be a next version someday.
Starting to regret only getting one more an more now

The mention of another finish instead anodizing always makes me picture white, based on the lack of white customs.
So I'm going to have this picture of a white VE.A stuck in my head now <3<3

[alienman82]

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[MajorKoos]

...
We actually have plan for next version of VE.A.
Our new VE.A has other surface, not anodizing.
...
But as always it is just plan, we dont guarantee anything.
...

Really hoping there will be a next version someday.
Starting to regret only getting one more an more now

The mention of another finish instead anodizing always makes me picture white, based on the lack of white customs.
So I'm going to have this picture of a white VE.A stuck in my head now <3<3

I wonder if it's the same as the bottom of the STS plate from the MD group buy?
That would be an interesting option.

[theillumedpanda]

Such a shame that I wasn't into keyboards before. Now I just have to hope that the VE.A will return someday.

[dead_pixel_design]

It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.

Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?

Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.

I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P

[alienman82]

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[zefyr]

It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.

Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?

Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.

I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P

Considering the time it was simply between the korean VeA GB and the Massdrop one, the time the IC was on here etc.  It'll be a whole while.

The exception would be a R2, but he's denied it over and over

and over again 

The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens)  requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.

Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.

[Jedi]

A new project would be really nice and we are all very interested in your next design Zephyr.  There are many boards that started as one design and then a new design come out and who knows maybe 2 or 3 years later the first design comes back or maybe a newer version? 

We will wait and see what comes. Take care of your health and no one thinks the team is lazy! New designs take time so relax. We will wait

[wodan]

I am excited by both options. Bringing the VE.A to version 2.0 or making something from scratch ... I am confident it will be good.

It is understandable you don't want to be the VE.A people forever but it is one of the most iconic designs ever. There is no shame in bringing this to the next level ...

Also I like very much what you said about rarity. The VE.A doesn't need to be rare to get appreciation!

[theillumedpanda]

I'd love it either way, VE.A 2.0 (I could finally get one) or a complete new design. But generally speaking, I asssume that you'll do cool stuff in the future and that's all that matters.

[krisst]

and over again 

The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens)  requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.

Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.

zefyr mentioned before the he is not willing to release VE.A with different colour because those special colours are only for the first GB supporters. Which is why the MD groupbuy only had 3 colours.

SATA connectors, seems like is going to be changed if there is a new project from him.

There might be more reasons, but looks like a brand new design with more colours would be a better choice. Although, I am sure there are people who would not mind getting the same selections of colours for another GB of VE.A v1.

[theillumedpanda]

and over again 

The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens)  requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.

Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.

zefyr mentioned before the he is not willing to release VE.A with different colour because those special colours are only for the first GB supporters. Which is why the MD groupbuy only had 3 colours.

SATA connectors, seems like is going to be changed if there is a new project from him.

There might be more reasons, but looks like a brand new design with more colours would be a better choice. Although, I am sure there are people who would not mind getting the same selections of colours for another GB of VE.A v1.

I fully understand that he doesn't want to release the colours he had offered for his first buyers, but I'd also be happy with just the 3 MD colours honestly.

The issue with the SATA connector is a bit odd and I really see his point that he wants to redress that problem. This step of production must be tedious for him.

[[Lewynlight]]

We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.

I won't. I love your design. take all the time you want!

[krisst]

About 7 hours more till Massdrop start the sale of extra VE.A units (March 27 at 6am PT). Looks like there are 4 units up for grabs. Silver and Black only.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/the-soldering-hole <- Link. Require a registered account.

[atomicus]

Is this board available in an ISO layout? Seems a rare find anyway, but I was curious.

[alienman82]

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[DormantLemon]

that was fast lol

I was confirming order 4 seconds after it opened, even with the server slowdown. Was still beaten.

On the +side, my set of Troubled Minds arrived today, so my VE.A is finally complete!

[clappingcactus]

Is this board available in an ISO layout? Seems a rare find anyway, but I was curious.

The PCB supports ISO layout. I'm switching mine to ISO later today or tomorrow, so I can have some pictures for you if you like.

[swangful]

that was fast lol

Yup...I had my gf help me too and no luck. Oh well...the wait for the redesign begins now

[dead_pixel_design]

What was the cost on these through that?

[swangful]

What was the cost on these through that?

Around 410, I never got to see the price but this is what people are saying that saw it.

[dead_pixel_design]

So bummed I missed this. I didn't even know that was happening on MD. Congrats to anyone who picked one up, I would have loved to have a brand new one instead of a used one. Missed out on an opportunity to get a Carbon and a Granite set too!?  I need to pay more attention

[swangful]

So bummed I missed this. I didn't even know that was happening on MD. Congrats to anyone who picked one up, I would have loved to have a brand new one instead of a used one. Missed out on an opportunity to get a Carbon and a Granite set too!?  I need to pay more attention

Yeah it was posted on reddit but people downvoted the **** out of the thread. Everyone wanted to keep it on the downlow lol. There were only 4 VE.As available so...chances were super slim as it is. And of course there are potentially people just buying sets/boards to flip :T

[theillumedpanda]

I would have loved to get one as well, but no luck whatsoever. I even set a timer and was patiently waiting. Somehow the page didn't load until 2min after launch and afterr that, every kit was already sold out by then.

Now we need your redesign, new concept, whatever even more. I'll be waiting. 

[Puddsy]

was bummed i missed but i don't have 400 lying around so it's not so bad

round 2 pls

[MajorKoos]

Does anyone have a spare PCB they're willing to sell/trade?
(MD offered additional PCB's and plates as part of their drop.)

[dead_pixel_design]

What are the key sizes for this board? Anyone have a diagram?

[hkf]

What are the key sizes for this board? Anyone have a diagram?

are you talking about bottom row? all other keys are standard.

supports a variety of layouts but there is a 2/1//2.75 split where the space would ordinarily be on a 75%.

[exitfire401]

It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.

Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?

Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.

I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P

Considering the time it was simply between the korean VeA GB and the Massdrop one, the time the IC was on here etc.  It'll be a whole while.

The exception would be a R2, but he's denied it over and over

and over again 

The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens)  requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.

Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.

After seeing the quality of this board, you've definitely got me drooling for whatever is next.

[MajorKoos]

If you can't make it, fake it...
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89152.0

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If you can't make it, fake it...
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89152.0

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Oh no you didn't...









Oh **** you did. 

[Skull_Angel]

I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!

[dead_pixel_design]

I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!

This has been answered multiple times in this thread and not very far back, if you read through the last few pages of posts you will get your answer

[alienman82]

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[Skull_Angel]

I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!

get an ergodox

No F-row and Ortholinear; I don't find it as comfortable as basic staggered for half of my needs.

I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!

This has been answered multiple times in this thread and not very far back, if you read through the last few pages of posts you will get your answer

Drunk posting! I had read that v2 was being developed, but forgot.

[dubious]

I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!

get an ergodox

No F-row and Ortholinear; I don't find it as comfortable as basic staggered for half of my needs.

I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!

This has been answered multiple times in this thread and not very far back, if you read through the last few pages of posts you will get your answer

Drunk posting! I had read that v2 was being developed, but forgot.

There is no plan for a 2nd VEA, but they said they might be working on a new keyboard. Probably 60% since it's hip

[Skull_Angel]

There is no plan for a 2nd VEA, but they said they might be working on a new keyboard. Probably 60% since it's hip

That's balls, I liked the design; you don't see enough 75% with unique layout.

[runswithflowers]

There is no plan for a 2nd VEA, but they said they might be working on a new keyboard. Probably 60% since it's hip

That's balls, I liked the design; you don't see enough 75% with unique layout.

But how sexy would a split old-school 1800 layout be... A man can dream...