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Title: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 30 July 2014, 11:07:07
SA Family Row 3 Profile
Bright White on Dark Green

BUY SOME NOW!
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/

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Nuclear Data Green by samwisekoi & Matt3o

All keycaps in this set are double-shot Bright White (WA) on Dark Green (VV), in tall, studly and spherical SA profile for maximum old skool-ness.  All keycaps are SA Row 3 profile in a semi-matte finish.  See the Interest Check thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640) for more details.

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116-key beyond-complete base set.

Estimated base set cost (before taxes, shipping, etc., is $63 per set at 100+ sets!

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20-key Radioactive Kit - estimated $12 at 25 sets

Ok, the Radioactive Kit has some keycaps in Bright White (WA) on Orange (OAS), but these are the only keycaps that aren't White-on-Green.

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16-key Specialty Kit - estimated $23 at 25 sets

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9-key ISO Kit - estimated $9 at 25 sets

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9-key Winkeyless Kit - estimated $19 at 25 sets

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Dvorak/Colemak Deep Dish Kit (non-homing F and J.  Deep dish U, H, T, and N). $3.00 flat rate.

Blanks and spacebars:
1x Blank      $0.25 each
1.25x Blank   $0.50 each
1.5x Blank   $0.75 each
1.75x Blank   $0.85 each (full touch or offset stepped)
2x Blank      $1.00 each
2x.25 Blank   $1.25 each
2x.75 Blank   $1.50 each
ISO Enter   $2.00 each
6.2 Unit SB   $4 each (AKA 6.25x or "Universal" spacebar)
7 Unit SB   $4 each

I do not have pricing on relegendables (1.0 or 2.0), timing or a decision on other row profile keycaps.

 - samwisekoi & Matt3o
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:39:37
NEW FONTS ON IMAGES

This is not live on PMK yet, but I went through the "official" SVG file and updated all the alphas, numbers, and function key legends to better match what we expect will be on the keycaps.

Here is a full image of the initial sets.  (I will also update the alternative combinations, e.g. Dvorak/Colemak.)

This is as close to the actual final fonts as I can get with a mock-up. 

Note the sans-serif "I", the updated "J", the base-less "1". The awesome slashed zeros.

I'll send this to SP as-is and split up into little images for the website.

OK?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:39:50
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Details to follow, but I am launching a three-week Group Buy for re-legendable keycaps to match Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3.

Green (VV) 1x

Green (VV) 2x wide

Orange (OAS) 1x

Orange (OAS) 2x wide


All with a clear cap with a glossy finish.

SA Row 3 Profile.

More details to follow.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:47:24
can't resist....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 13:51:37
 :thumb:   Great to see it go live (almost)!  And that pricing is excellent.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Ceedog on Wed, 30 July 2014, 14:02:59
Very interesting. Will have to get the nuke key at least.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SSIPAK on Wed, 30 July 2014, 14:13:38
wow this is actually going to happen? i can't believe my eyes.  :eek:
btw is it possible for you to offer 6u spacebar?

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 30 July 2014, 15:17:31
Most excellent!

That is a price I can almost afford ;D

C'mon people - we want orders!  Er, is it up yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 30 July 2014, 16:33:19
All the items and pricing we have is now in the OP of this thread.  The base kit has been submitted to SP via http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com and once the base set is up we will add the other kits and blanks.

Once the base kit goes up, it would be encouraging to see people sign up for that and then add other kits as I get them uploaded.

NOTE:  I do not have pricing on relegendables (1.0 or 2.0), 6u spacebars (although I expect them to be $4) or pricing, timing or a decision on other row profile keycaps.

 -  Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 30 July 2014, 16:51:27
You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 30 July 2014, 17:06:26
No custom color to have it match the interest check keyboard more accurately?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Wed, 30 July 2014, 17:25:18
Why you do dis...
(http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/227987/file-1299162856-jpg/money_flying_out_wallet.jpg?t=1406313118221)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: MarkPharaoh on Wed, 30 July 2014, 17:29:46
Really love that shade of green.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 July 2014, 17:31:24
Why you do dis...
Show Image
(http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/227987/file-1299162856-jpg/money_flying_out_wallet.jpg?t=1406313118221)


Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 30 July 2014, 18:07:28
Why you do dis...
Show Image
(http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/227987/file-1299162856-jpg/money_flying_out_wallet.jpg?t=1406313118221)


Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:
Lucky man. For some people money just appears out of air.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 30 July 2014, 18:17:47
Why you do dis...
Show Image
(http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/227987/file-1299162856-jpg/money_flying_out_wallet.jpg?t=1406313118221)


Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:
Lucky man. For some people money just appears out of air.

Yeah - money doesn't grow on trees!

Unless you are using leaves as currency.

In which case it probably does grow on trees.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 30 July 2014, 19:14:29
Yeah - money doesn't grow on trees!

Unless you are using leaves as currency.

In which case it probably does grow on trees.

It's all in the ground under your feet  :thumb: .  For some it means nothing but dirt for others is worth billions, after more than 4000 years of so-called modern human habitation the minerals under your feet is still the most valuable source of immense wealth and prosperity.

Fvck being anything else, just learn to dig and move tons of earth like a 90kg Ant and you'll do well  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 30 July 2014, 19:29:23
No custom color to have it match the interest check keyboard more accurately?

No, thank you.

Really love that shade of green.

Thank you.

Why you do dis...

Because people have been demanding it for like two years.

You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC :)

Thanks.  Done.

Descriptions and images for all kits have been uploaded to SP for approval.  I do not know how we/they will handle blanks yet.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  I'm a gonna be trimmin' this thread if it gets OT.  Profiles and plastics are on-topic.  Existential discussions of economics or monetary theory are off-topic.


Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Zebadule on Wed, 30 July 2014, 21:16:55
The non-homing G in the deep dish kit looks like it may have meant to be a J.

All around a cool set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 21:44:02
What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 July 2014, 21:47:31
What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 21:48:15
What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 30 July 2014, 22:58:47
What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

A bloody G80-1865 uses that size, a real pain when it comes to Group Buys because SP doesn't have the molding for fitment to these brilliant keyboards  :'( .

I think the current 660M uses that size as well........
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SSIPAK on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:05:42
What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

A bloody G80-1865 uses that size, a real pain when it comes to Group Buys because SP doesn't have the molding for fitment to these brilliant keyboards  :'( .

I think the current 660M uses that size as well........
SP can actually make 6u spacebars, thats why I asked for it in this thread :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 30 July 2014, 23:59:03
You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC :)

Indeed correct put it in BIG type print SA Profile ONLY.

I think after that they will know what that means  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:15:11
You should put the profile of the keys in the OP for people who haven't been following the IC :)

Indeed correct put it in BIG type print SA Profile ONLY.

I think after that they will know what that means  :thumb: .

The thread title is not sufficient?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:36:21
The thread title is not sufficient?

Yes, I think it's the new ones that have signed on here at GH.  The SA is hidden between the "Green" and "Row" words which can be difficult to view quickly  ;D .

You have to have a little compassion for our 'newlings' here because this is a big place which can get quite confusing to the uninitiated.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:41:03
Yes, I think it's the new ones that have signed on here at GH.  The SA is hidden between the "Green" and "Row" words which can be difficult to view quickly  ;D .

You have to have a little compassion for our 'newlings' here because this is a big place which can get quite confusing to the uninitiated.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50532.0

;D

I read very carefully when I am committing to buy something.  I won't commit unless I am sure what I am getting, and once committed I won't back out!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:44:18
This might be a difficult question to answer but, since Novatouch stems and stabilizers have been confirmed to swap with a hhkb and fc660c, can the 6x spacebar of this set theoretically work with a hhkb or fc660c once the swaps have been completed?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:52:24
Any chance of getting some blank ErgoDox modifiers as an option?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 31 July 2014, 01:05:31
Why you do dis...
Show Image
(http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/227987/file-1299162856-jpg/money_flying_out_wallet.jpg?t=1406313118221)


Oooh, look at you catching all that money in your wallet like a responsible individual.  Kudos to you.   :thumb:
Glass half full kinda guy.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 31 July 2014, 06:49:13
Awesome! This keycap set is one of my favourite colourways. I can't wait to see everyone's pictures.

Looks like I'll have to add more stuff to the F/S listing I'll have to make :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:36:28
Any chance of getting some blank ErgoDox modifiers as an option?

Other than the ones listed in the OP?

The non-homing G in the deep dish kit looks like it may have meant to be a J.

All around a cool set.

Fixed.  Thanks!

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.

SP calls 6.25 "6.2"  Fits most (MOST) modern keyboards.

What keyboard supports a 6.2 space bar? Wish I could be part of this. glws.
6.2 I believe is the same as 6.25 which is the standard spacebar sizing for most common boards with 1.25 mods, filco, ducky, qfr etc.

what about 6u?

SP does not have a 6.00 spacebar in SA profile.  Sorry.  Same with 10.00 spacebars.  Still sorry.

We could have either of those shot in DCS profile, but their profiles would not match.

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SA Profile in black; DCS profile in blue.

Hmmm.  Maybe reverse-mounted on the keyboard?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Data on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:51:34
I'm blowing up my F5 key waiting for the link to appear...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 31 July 2014, 13:28:17
Any chance of getting some blank ErgoDox modifiers as an option?

Other than the ones listed in the OP?

Ah. I misread what you meant by "1 Space $0.25 each". Ok, that works.

So, if I'm doing my math right, it'll be:

base - $63
20 x 1u - $5
12 x 1.5u - $9
4 x 2u - $4

$81 for the base set and enough blanks for an ErgoDox. Count me in on this one.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 31 July 2014, 16:20:54
Fixed the OP to make the blanks easier to understand.  (That was a cut-and-paste from SP.)

Also have worked out that we cannot get 6.0 or 1.0 spacebars.  Matt3o has DCS and SA kits and made a physical comparison and they just don't go together,  Sorry; we are dropping the idea of including DCS spacebars of any length in this buy, so 6.0x and 10x spacebars are out.

Everything has been uploaded to SP at http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com and as soon as they are ready to release we are good to order AFAIK.

Here are the kits/items:
Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool SA Row 3 Keycaps (116-key Base Kit)
16-key Specialty Kit
20-key Radioactive Kit
6-key Dvorak/Colemak Kit
9-key ISO Kit
9-key Winkeyless Kit

6.2 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)
7 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)

Blank 1x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.50x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

Blank ISO Enter Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: mtl on Thu, 31 July 2014, 18:43:31
Thank you samwisekoi and matt3o for putting this together. Looks great and I love the DEF CON key.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 31 July 2014, 19:13:29
Here are the kits/items:
Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool SA Row 3 Keycaps (116-key Base Kit)
16-key Specialty Kit
20-key Radioactive Kit
6-key Dvorak/Colemak Kit
9-key ISO Kit
9-key Winkeyless Kit

6.2 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)
7 Unit Spacebar in Dark Green (VV)

Blank 1x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.50x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 1.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.25x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)
Blank 2.75x Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

Blank ISO Enter Keycap in Dark Green (VV)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

The pricing should be the cheapest for any SA Profile released thus far (if you want to make comparisons).

So there's no excuse to NOT buy less than 2 complete key-sets with Radioactive Sets and of course the mandatory extra Space Bars, for most keyboards  :thumb: .

Thank you Sam and Matt for making this happen.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: blighty on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:49:56
Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:40:50
I believe Signature Plastics can do 8x and 9x SA spacebars, any chance you can add that and if orders get there then so be it? I don't see how adding it could hurt.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 01 August 2014, 00:39:34
Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?
I was wondering the same thing myself ...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 01 August 2014, 02:28:50
Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?
I was wondering the same thing myself ...

I for one am glad it isn't. Gives it a chance at actually getting seen by people and may actually meet MOQ then.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 01 August 2014, 02:32:56
It's a good thing that is not hidden, it has the chance to get the right amount of exposure that a GB needs, especially when you a have a short time span to reach the MOQ  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 August 2014, 07:05:24
Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

This could get interesting....maybe it depends on who runs the group buy as to where it gets its exposure.... ???
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: sir_derpenheimer on Fri, 01 August 2014, 10:51:03
yep. definitely buying these.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 01 August 2014, 13:01:30
I believe Signature Plastics can do 8x and 9x SA spacebars, any chance you can add that and if orders get there then so be it? I don't see how adding it could hurt.

I have no objection, but those were down-voted as "meh" in the IC phase.

Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

Well, so far "the vendor" hasn't done any actual work on this group buy.  They have responded to quotes and told us which of our desired legends were and were not available.

All of the design, planning, documentation, interaction with forum members, posting, creating multiple versions of machine-ready artwork, creating images for upload, uploading descriptions and images, and everything else so far?

samwisekoi and Matt3o

Oh, and the two of us made all of the decisions required so far, including my STRONG DESIRE not to repeat the fulfillment and post-shipping support effort I went through for Retro DSA.

Make no mistake, SP is making and shipping the keycaps.  They have systems for that.  But this is not a vendor-run group buy.

(Plus all of the other reasons listed above by other people.)

The pricing should be the cheapest for any SA Profile released thus far (if you want to make comparisons).

So there's no excuse to NOT buy less than 2 complete key-sets with Radioactive Sets and of course the mandatory extra Space Bars, for most keyboards  :thumb: .

Thank you Sam and Matt for making this happen.

You are correct and very welcome!

 - Ron | samwisekoi





Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 August 2014, 15:19:59
Shouldn't the Vendor-run group buy be hidden in Signature Plastics' Vendor Subforum?

Well, so far "the vendor" hasn't done any actual work on this group buy.  They have responded to quotes and told us which of our desired legends were and were not available.

All of the design, planning, documentation, interaction with forum members, posting, creating multiple versions of machine-ready artwork, creating images for upload, uploading descriptions and images, and everything else so far?

samwisekoi and Matt3o

Oh, and the two of us made all of the decisions required so far, including my STRONG DESIRE not to repeat the fulfillment and post-shipping support effort I went through for Retro DSA.

Make no mistake, SP is making and shipping the keycaps.  They have systems for that.  But this is not a vendor-run group buy.

(Plus all of the other reasons listed above by other people.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi



The reason the question was asked is every other group buy using SP's PMK website has been forced to be in the SP subforum for good or bad.

for reference http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55800.0
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 01 August 2014, 19:49:40
Well, so far "the vendor" hasn't done any actual work on this group buy.  They have responded to quotes and told us which of our desired legends were and were not available.

All of the design, planning, documentation, interaction with forum members, posting, creating multiple versions of machine-ready artwork, creating images for upload, uploading descriptions and images, and everything else so far?

samwisekoi and Matt3o

Oh, and the two of us made all of the decisions required so far, including my STRONG DESIRE not to repeat the fulfillment and post-shipping support effort I went through for Retro DSA.

Make no mistake, SP is making and shipping the keycaps.  They have systems for that.  But this is not a vendor-run group buy.

(Plus all of the other reasons listed above by other people.)

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I knew there was a reason why I loved this man, he actually hit the nail on the head for the reason's why this process should be held in this "GROUP BUY" section  :thumb: .

Maybe that is why certain GB's failed to reach MOQ due to hiding all the Group Buys in their secluded section, hence most new people wouldn't know where to read or see what's going on.  Besides if SP actually designed this key-set from the get go then they can actually keep it in their vendor forum but this key-set has been designed and organized here in this area (section of Geekhack) for some time.

I firmly believe that Signature Plastics should ALWAYS be just a manufacturer and nothing more, so let's keep it that way.  I'm sure they are still in business today due to ONLY making key-caps, if someone here thinks that it's NOT please state here what exactly is their business?

That is what drew me here in the first place all those years ago when it came to getting my hands on some tasty key-caps, it all started HERE in this section of Geekhack.  I hope this will be the future of most Group Buys because it provides ease of access and complete updates to your chosen key-cap purchase.  There is no offense to SP here but I have always wanted Group Buys to stay in this section for everyone to read and see what's going on.  When the organizers themselves have actually designed the caps and spent all of their own valuable time and effort in this important phase then they have the right to choose whereabouts to keep informing people on this process.

Thanks Sam and Matt3o for choosing to stay here, we all appreciate it greatly  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: GSimon on Fri, 01 August 2014, 20:12:29
The reason the question was asked is every other group buy using SP's PMK website has been forced to be in the SP subforum for good or bad.

for reference http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55800.0

Yea no one's denying who was involved in the design process, it just makes sense for GH to take a stance on whether or not it should be held here or in the vendor group buy, as other group buys didn't get this same treatment.

The long justifications for why it should or shouldn't be here are not the point, it's that they're allowing this one to be here as the exception, so it should be like this for all PMK's GBs or none at all. Mods weigh in on this maybe? And stick to your guns from here on out as to not place favouritism?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 01 August 2014, 20:23:09
Huh.  Apparently this hullabaloo happened while I was away from the forum this Spring.  I am angry right now, so I'll post briefly.

Elrick, you were an early and vocal supporter of this set, which was proposed long before SP got off their behinds and gave GB organizers some tools.  Thank you for that and for your kind words.

I just read that whole thread, and I am 100% in agreement with jdcarpe's first post (before he was disempowered.)

Anyone who believes that a vendor is taking advantage of me in this group buy has not met me.  And I am pretty sure I have met nearly everyone posting with authority in that thread.

I was away while those final decisions were made.  I am not away now.  I shall now go interact with other Admins and Mods on the topic.

However, as I promised, this thread is to promote some freakin' AWESOME KEYCAPS.

Thanks for the heads up on that other thread.  I'll go deal with it.  In the meantime, let's talk about spacebars and profiles here.

HERE.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: terrpn on Fri, 01 August 2014, 22:08:39
so if all keys are row 3 profile we would order the base and the set that has the 1.75 shift and would not run into profiles issues (print, scroll and pause) with an 1800?

the orange contrast set is pretty awesome :eek:

i like old skool, i am old skool..............
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: FreeCopy on Fri, 01 August 2014, 23:17:06
This is a great looking set, Sam. I hope to make this my first SA set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: zhihuichan on Sat, 02 August 2014, 01:14:29
Well done,guy! I'll buy two sets!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: brybell on Sat, 02 August 2014, 02:25:27
great. so we buy on sp when it comes up?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sun, 03 August 2014, 15:43:48
I see that the base set has a spacebar in it, but then the universal 6.25 spacebar is listed as separate. What is the spacebar that comes in the base set?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 August 2014, 17:13:19
I see that the base set has a spacebar in it, but then the universal 6.25 spacebar is listed as separate. What is the spacebar that comes in the base set?

It would be the same.

A lot of people prefer to have a spare space bar or two as that is the key that tends to show shine the most.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sun, 03 August 2014, 17:42:03
Okay, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Cods on Mon, 04 August 2014, 04:00:09
<refreshes PMK yet again>
Nope, not yet.

Bugger. Any idea when SP thinks they'll actually go live with this?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 04 August 2014, 15:40:34
Oh boy. Looks like I'm going to have to get another board to put this nice set on...

I've got Insomnia 52 this month as well. Hope it doesn't go live before next month hah...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 04 August 2014, 19:34:56
Oh boy. Looks like I'm going to have to get another board to put this nice set on...

That's the Geekhack spirit, you can never have enough keyboards in your possession  :thumb: .  Always in Group Buys you have to buy at least another couple of keyboards to furnish them with your latest key-set purchase(s).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Cods on Tue, 05 August 2014, 17:13:46
I emailed SP about website issues when trying to order Royal Apollo yesterday, and also asked when Nuclear Data SA would be available.

According to the helpful chaps and chapettes at Signature Plastics, Royal Apollo DSA is up now (bought) and Nuclear Data SA goes live on Monday the 11th of this month.

Sweet.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:10:05
I emailed SP about website issues when trying to order Royal Apollo yesterday, and also asked when Nuclear Data SA would be available.

According to the helpful chaps and chapettes at Signature Plastics, Royal Apollo DSA is up now (bought) and Nuclear Data SA goes live on Monday the 11th of this month.

Sweet.

Hah!  News to me!

Thanks for the follow-up call!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:20:22
MONDAY THE 11TH GODDAMIT

I'm going to have to get a full set. My wallet oh god :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 05 August 2014, 20:48:23
MONDAY THE 11TH GODDAMIT

I'm going to have to get a full set. My wallet oh god :'(

We go all FULL-ON Nuclear at that date line  :thumb: .

Can't wait to see the destruction this little Group Buy will hold on all the wallets here at Geekhack  ;D .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 06 August 2014, 01:22:56
love the "all row 3" on this and offering blanks and alt deepdish, you are a hero to ergodox and odd layout people

I told myself i wasnt going to do ABS anymore but they would look awesome on my metal dox and if they go shiny they will essentially go with the theme of nuclear :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 August 2014, 01:33:35
love the "all row 3" on this and offering blanks and alt deepdish, you are a hero to ergodox and odd layout people

I told myself i wasnt going to do ABS anymore but they would look awesome on my metal dox and if they go shiny they will essentially go with the theme of nuclear :D

To me it almost seems a given that all SA sets should be shiny!

I seem to recall similar profile sets on olden terminals were all shiny.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Cods on Wed, 06 August 2014, 01:37:41
..... and if they go shiny they will essentially go with the theme of nuclear :D

That raises a question.

I'm typing this on Calm Depths SA; apologies for my ignorance, but:
1. Is Calm Depths ABS? (I assume so)
2. Out of the box, is Calm Depths semi-matte, gloss, semi-gloss, shiny, or some other designation of finish that I'm not aware of? (Looks semi-gloss to me)

I quite like how Calm Depths looks after a month or so; shiny in a very good way. I wonder if that's how Nuclear Data will go?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Wed, 06 August 2014, 01:48:18
I believe all of SP's double shots are ABS(or they where last time I checked), so yes, Calm Depths is ABS.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: RED-404 on Wed, 06 August 2014, 03:14:55
I think I'm going to make a keyboard with this set for my dad. He served on a nuke sub and is currently an engineer at WCNOC "Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation" He will at least get a kick out of it.

P.S. I have webbed toes, I wonder if that had something to do with it?
P.P.S. NO I CAN'T SWIM FASTER!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 06 August 2014, 09:10:09
<zork>

> Where am I?
You are in a keyboard forum.  You hear the sound of thread trimming in the background.

>Talk about keyboards.
You are talking about keyboards and keyboard-related things again.

</zork>

Back to keycaps...

All the other SP profiles are MATTE finish.

http://keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php

This set will be SEMI-MATTE, so more glossy than all the other DSA and DCS sets.  Full gloss is only available on SA keycaps, and only on some keys.  Specifically the keys that were (I am guessing here) actually made for those old terminals.

So you should consider this set MORE GLOSSY than normal SP keycaps.

Also, with rare exception, all double-shot keycaps are ABS.  SA keycaps are thicker than most, so that is nice.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Cods on Wed, 06 August 2014, 13:44:40
Sweet!
Thanks for the explanation, Ron.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 06 August 2014, 14:44:39
I believe all of SP's double shots are ABS(or they where last time I checked), so yes, Calm Depths is ABS.

They JUST started double-sho(o)ting PBT. Excited to see where that goes.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 06 August 2014, 15:26:12
I believe all of SP's double shots are ABS(or they where last time I checked), so yes, Calm Depths is ABS.

They JUST started double-sho(o)ting PBT. Excited to see where that goes.
They've been doing it for ~18 months or so now...

They have said that due to the shrinkage rate of the PBT, doing an entire set would be impractical and extremely cost prohibitive. So basically SP will do double shot PBT novelty caps and that's it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 06 August 2014, 16:18:20
love the "all row 3" on this and offering blanks and alt deepdish, you are a hero to ergodox and odd layout people

I told myself i wasnt going to do ABS anymore but they would look awesome on my metal dox and if they go shiny they will essentially go with the theme of nuclear :D

To me it almost seems a given that all SA sets should be shiny!

I seem to recall similar profile sets on olden terminals were all shiny.

You could get IBM keyboards for terminals (in the 1970's) with textured or smooth keycaps. I have a few honeywell terminal keyboards from the mid 1970's with textured keycaps as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: kalrand on Sat, 09 August 2014, 14:12:49
I'm curious, would the SP deep dish SA caps be a closer match to the shape of the old school terminal keycaps than just the regular SA sphericals?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:15:24
I'm curious, would the SP deep dish SA caps be a closer match to the shape of the old school terminal keycaps than just the regular SA sphericals?

it would depend heavily on which old school terminal you mean; I think the normal-dish SA caps are closest to the actual nuclear data ones.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36435.msg684704#msg684704
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: kalrand on Sat, 09 August 2014, 20:26:11
I'm curious, would the SP deep dish SA caps be a closer match to the shape of the old school terminal keycaps than just the regular SA sphericals?

it would depend heavily on which old school terminal you mean; I think the normal-dish SA caps are closest to the actual nuclear data ones.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36435.msg684704#msg684704

Good point. I was thinking back to some of the pictures of the old honeywell hall effect keyboards, not the one this keyset was modeled on.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 10 August 2014, 01:00:06
any chance of a Matteo style mock up? pretty sure though this is going to look good, especially on metal cases.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 10 August 2014, 02:01:59
you mean the 3D render?

I don't have the SA profile model... but it should just be like DSA just taller :) I can try it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 10 August 2014, 11:54:24
Your 3d renders in the past were amazing, I'm spoiled by them After granite
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:27:48
It's live on SP everyone!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:28:50
It's live on SP everyone!

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:58:23
Indeed it is live!

BUY SOME NOW!
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. SpAmRaY, did you beat me to order #1?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:59:35
I was hoping to be the first order, but it looks like I was 2nd overall. LOL!

I did get in first on the Specialty Kit and the 9-Key Winkeyless Kit though  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 11 August 2014, 10:59:39
Indeed it is live!

BUY SOME NOW!
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. SpAmRaY, did you beat me to order #1?

No I have learned it is better for me to wait for a few orders to go through on PMK buys....I always seem to have login troubles.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:05:18
Note:  The set is up, but it is missing the Radioactive Kit on the live site.   I have contacted SP to investigate and rectify this problem.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: SlotH42 on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:08:47
The radioactive isn't there?

Edit: oh just saw samwisekois post
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:11:29
Note:  The set is up, but it is missing the Radioactive Kit on the live site.   I have contacted SP to investigate and rectify this problem.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Seems like they have it setup as a separate buy?

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/20-key-radioactive-kit/
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:12:22
It's there, but just as a separate buy.

Edit: Spamray ninja'd me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:15:41
Welp.  Bought one of everything. 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:30:42
Welp.  Bought one of everything.

Not quite.  I just requested a last-minute addition of extra numpad kits for people who want to make the top row all numbers or use it for a programmable number pad.

[attachimg=1]
Requested additional numpad kit.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 August 2014, 11:58:25
Welp.  Bought one of everything.

Not quite.  I just requested a last-minute addition of extra numpad kits for people who want to make the top row all numbers or use it for a programmable number pad.

(Attachment Link)
Requested additional numpad kit.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

 :'(  You just can't let me win, huh.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 11 August 2014, 12:02:12
I'm curious, would the SP deep dish SA caps be a closer match to the shape of the old school terminal keycaps than just the regular SA sphericals?

it would depend heavily on which old school terminal you mean; I think the normal-dish SA caps are closest to the actual nuclear data ones.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36435.msg684704#msg684704

Good point. I was thinking back to some of the pictures of the old honeywell hall effect keyboards, not the one this keyset was modeled on.

Since I have both (thanks to bunnylake's penumbra keycap groupbuy) I did some head-to-head comparison. Keep in mind that Honeywell produced both flat profile and sculpted keycaps and they changed their moulds sometime in the early 1980's. The "normal" SP SA-profile keycaps are almost exactly like the honeywell ones.

This picture shows 789 beige from honweywell terminal (1977) 789 yellow from penumbra and a "deep-dish" 5 keycap also from that set. Everything is flat profile.

As you can see, the profiles are very similar in size, shape, and curvature to the "normal" SA keycaps. Note the honeywell caps are textured. I didn't feel like digging out my smooth ones (so there!).
Even the font looks pretty close to me. (some obvious differences of course.)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3918/14701100607_0bab7ce8c4_o.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5554/14887623525_db2ae45bd6_o.jpg)

Now it's a race to make $60 before the buy ends!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Mon, 11 August 2014, 12:11:30
Samwise, what happened to the Radioactive Kit?   Was there not enough interest?

Oops, sorry.  Missed your post on this.

Huzzah!  Purchased!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: ccc24 on Mon, 11 August 2014, 12:45:30
So is the radioactive kit meant to only be available for a few hours?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 11 August 2014, 12:59:52
ordered! :) am I the only one who ordered extra spacebars?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: beltet on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:23:50
to bad no international kit. but thanks anyway! Badly wants this.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:34:07
to bad no international kit. but thanks anyway! Badly wants this.

Beyond the ISO kit?  If so, sorry about that.  Maybe if there is ever a round 2.

ordered! :) am I the only one who ordered extra spacebars?

No, I did (or have them in my cart.)  I am going to have some chopped and stretched into a 10x spacebar for maximum old-skoolness!

To everyone else, the Numpad Kit is now up, and I have re-submitted the Radioactive Kit as a longer-lasting child.  Hopefully you will see that soon.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: ccc24 on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:37:41
Well the I bought the radioactive kit when it was a separate buy. Does my order still count? Because the new child buy doesn't show anyone has purchased it yet. I also have an authorization of 12.10 in my bank statement.

Edit: for those who ordered it when it was a separate buy, have to reorder it. I think only 6 people were in it anyways.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:43:50
Ok, everything is up now, and all children are listed as children.

I have no idea about any Radioactive Kits ordered when they were separate; I will check and see what can be done.  My guess is we will have to delete and re-order.

Also, I have no idea how to reply to PMK messages, so post here or PM me here with questions!

Thanks much,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:54:41
Received an e-mail from Melissa stating that I had to re-order the radioactive kit since they had to re-add it as a child element.

I immediately did that and and shipping was only $0.10 for that kit.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:56:02
buy or not to buy, that is the question.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Mon, 11 August 2014, 13:57:44
This sucks but I wanted to contribute, so here it is anyway.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZyQtq4C.png)

Off to re-order my Radioactive Kit.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: kalrand on Mon, 11 August 2014, 14:17:18
I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get a tab key for my JD40, and realized there are tons of cheap blanks!

One question, did relegendable keys get dropped?  Then again I don't really know how I'd print on clear legends...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Mon, 11 August 2014, 14:23:37
One question, did relegendable keys get dropped?  Then again I don't really know how I'd print on clear legends...

You just print out a tiny square of paper and put it under the clear top.

Oh hey, check this out. SP added a little bonus to the group buy.

Quote from: Signature Plastics
**Special Note for this Set: At Pimp my Keyboard we recognize the role Geek Hack plays in our ability to bring your incredible keyboard designs to life. To help maintain the platform we will donate 3% once the Nuclear Data base set reaches 100 total sales. Please join us in giving back to the online community.** - See more at: http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps/#sthash.bVdBZ7Ks.dpuf
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 11 August 2014, 14:30:11
the nuclear kit is still listed under my purchases. so not sure if I have to reorder or not. I also got the mail from melissa. I already paid everything and dont wanna pay twice for it
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 11 August 2014, 14:35:38
Ordered!  :D Hope the extra sets planned come to fruition. Would love to rock some sculpted SA on my KBT Pure. IMHO 60% boards really suit terminal style sets due to the similarity in size.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 14:38:01
I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to get a tab key for my JD40, and realized there are tons of cheap blanks!

One question, did relegendable keys get dropped?  Then again I don't really know how I'd print on clear legends...

They got dropped due to lack of expressed interest.

the nuclear kit is still listed under my purchases. so not sure if I have to reorder or not. I also got the mail from melissa. I already paid everything and dont wanna pay twice for it

Reply to the e-mail and see if they can work something out.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nilpt on Mon, 11 August 2014, 16:24:48
Just submitted an order for a blank TKL  :)
Where are the blank home indicator keys?
Can I have homing dot and deep dish?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 18:22:49
Just submitted an order for a blank TKL  :)
Where are the blank home indicator keys?
Can I have homing dot and deep dish?

I imagine we could add blank 1x deep dish 'caps.  No dots in SA.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 11 August 2014, 18:30:39
Just submitted an order for a blank TKL  :)
Where are the blank home indicator keys?
Can I have homing dot and deep dish?

I imagine we could add blank 1x deep dish 'caps.  No dots in SA.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

They actually do exist, and are designed for the number pad. I wasn't aware of that until recently, but I personally wouldn't choose those for home row homing keys.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 11 August 2014, 19:19:59
I may have been mistaken, but I thought there were not.

Regardless, I have asked that 1x deep disk homing key blanks be added as a new child.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 11 August 2014, 19:41:50
This sucks but I wanted to contribute, so here it is anyway.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZyQtq4C.png)


Off to re-order my Radioactive Kit.

I'm with him, ordered 4 of everything here.

Damn these look so good but the real value here is the full BASE kit that gives you nearly everything to fill approximately 80% of Cherry keyboards out there.

Nice one here Sam & Matt3o, you've done real good with this SA profile set that it's so desirable to look at and use.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 11 August 2014, 20:40:46
6.2 Unit SB   $4 each (AKA 6.25x or "Universal" spacebar)

Why not just say 6.25? Kind of confusing as there is 2.25 unit keys where the 5 is included.

Also will double check myself but for Ergodox you would need 1u, 1.5u and 2u blank keys?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Mon, 11 August 2014, 20:45:46
Also will double check myself but for Ergodox you would need 1u, 1.5u and 2u blank keys?

Yes. For a full set of ErgoDox keys, you need 20x 1u, 12x 1.5u, and 4x 2u.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 11 August 2014, 20:51:31
Yes. For a full set of ErgoDox keys, you need 20x 1u, 12x 1.5u, and 4x 2u.

Thanks! on the fence about getting the Base kit but will likely pick these up regardless.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: ccc24 on Mon, 11 August 2014, 21:47:19
would it be cheaper to buy the blanks on this buy or wait for matt3o's midnight ergodox child buy?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Mon, 11 August 2014, 22:19:40
the real value here is the full BASE kit that gives you nearly everything to fill approximately 80% of Cherry keyboards out there.

Nice one here Sam & Matt3o, you've done real good with this SA profile set that it's so desirable to look at and use.

I'll second that. With most GBs you have to buy a bunch of little sub-sets to get one keyboard covered, so naturally none of the sub-sets sell enough to get quantity pricing. It's cheaper to buy a Nuclear Data base set then it is to buy all the little sub-sets you need from other GBs! Well done, this is quantity pricing done right! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: RED-404 on Tue, 12 August 2014, 00:20:11
Total $116.75 Why did you do this to me & my poor little wallet?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 12 August 2014, 00:31:22
Why did you do this to me & my poor little wallet?

You do know that your wallet has to become more accommodating for the BIG group buys here on Geekhack  8) .

Just like a woman she shall know how it feels to be filled to bursting point with all of these magnificent GB's being thrust into her  :thumb: .  Just convince your wallet to enjoy the size and strength of this Group Buy because she'll need about a week to recover before the next GB session.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Tue, 12 August 2014, 01:01:44
the real value here is the full BASE kit that gives you nearly everything to fill approximately 80% of Cherry keyboards out there.

Nice one here Sam & Matt3o, you've done real good with this SA profile set that it's so desirable to look at and use.

I'll second that. With most GBs you have to buy a bunch of little sub-sets to get one keyboard covered, so naturally none of the sub-sets sell enough to get quantity pricing. It's cheaper to buy a Nuclear Data base set then it is to buy all the little sub-sets you need from other GBs! Well done, this is quantity pricing done right! :thumb:

I'll third that. Most group buys seem to completely ignore the modifiers needed for the ErgoDox. Or if an ErgoDox sub-kit is offered, it's nowhere near the MOQ needed. Because the numbers are nowhere near the MOQ needed, no one buys the sub-kit. It's a vicious cycle.

I love how we can order individual blanks. This way anyone can order any number of blanks, not just an ErgoDox-specific sub-kit. Offering individual blanks seems like the best way to go for future GBs.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 12 August 2014, 01:15:25
individual blanks should be available by default on every PMK group buy :)

also, it is pretty clear the importance of the main GB sub-forum for the success of the set. I hope from now on we could post the GBs here.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 12 August 2014, 03:07:11
also, it is pretty clear the importance of the main GB sub-forum for the success of the set. I hope from now on we could post the GBs here.

You bet, keep it all in this section on Geekhack and you can't go wrong in any way  :thumb: . 

Everyone will know what's going on with this Group Buy with every day that passes, can't wait for these to get made soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nilpt on Tue, 12 August 2014, 03:18:49
I may have been mistaken, but I thought there were not.

Regardless, I have asked that 1x deep disk homing key blanks be added as a new child.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 12 August 2014, 09:16:34
As of now, 21 base sets were purchased in a <24 hour period.  Very good for a first day!

the real value here is the full BASE kit that gives you nearly everything to fill approximately 80% of Cherry keyboards out there.

Nice one here Sam & Matt3o, you've done real good with this SA profile set that it's so desirable to look at and use.

Thank very much.  Experience pays off, I think.  In particular the Retro DSA GB where there wasn't just a keyboard set as you would get from, e.g. Imsto.  This was an attempt to improve on that AND make the set more accessible.

I'll second that. With most GBs you have to buy a bunch of little sub-sets to get one keyboard covered, so naturally none of the sub-sets sell enough to get quantity pricing. It's cheaper to buy a Nuclear Data base set then it is to buy all the little sub-sets you need from other GBs! Well done, this is quantity pricing done right! :thumb:

Thinking about that after the first day of the group buy, I realized that the base set is so good from a cost/value perspective that instead of buying a base set for my keyboard plus a numpad kit, I could just buy two base kits.  Then I could do a 104 with the first kit, the numpad AND a second TKL keyboard.

I'll third that. Most group buys seem to completely ignore the modifiers needed for the ErgoDox. Or if an ErgoDox sub-kit is offered, it's nowhere near the MOQ needed. Because the numbers are nowhere near the MOQ needed, no one buys the sub-kit. It's a vicious cycle.

I love how we can order individual blanks. This way anyone can order any number of blanks, not just an ErgoDox-specific sub-kit. Offering individual blanks seems like the best way to go for future GBs.

It was clear from filling orders for blank Retro DSA keycaps that people were using them for all kinds of reasons, not just ErgoDox builds.  SA/R3 and DSA profiles are easier to sell as blanks because of the common profile.  DCS and multi-row SA would be much harder and more expensive. 

However, without a fulfillment service like SP is providing via PMK, there would be no way to offer so many individual keycaps and remain sane.

But as Elrick noted above, the big story is the value in the base kit.

TL;DR For $69 you can cover almost any keyboard with a Nuclear Data Base Kit.  Everyone should sign up for one or more base kits.

CLICK TO BUY (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-old-skool-sa-row-3-keycaps)

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Roark17 on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:02:20
As a physical chemist who's favorite color is green, I gotta say these are the sickest caps I've seen.  My only wish is that the yellow caps in the radioactive set had black legends.  I'm entirely new to the keyboard scene though and I've never participated in a GB before.  Someone give me the push I need to order these.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:08:02
As a physical chemist who's favorite color is green, I gotta say these are the sickest caps I've seen.  My only wish is that the yellow caps in the radioactive set had black legends.  I'm entirely new to the keyboard scene though and I've never participated in a GB before.  Someone give me the push I need to order these.  ;)

Order them.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:12:50
As a physical chemist who's favorite color is green, I gotta say these are the sickest caps I've seen.  My only wish is that the yellow caps in the radioactive set had black legends.  I'm entirely new to the keyboard scene though and I've never participated in a GB before.  Someone give me the push I need to order these.  ;)

Order them.

(http://i.imgur.com/HSzzQS4.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Tue, 12 August 2014, 10:18:55
As a physical chemist who's favorite color is green, I gotta say these are the sickest caps I've seen.  My only wish is that the yellow caps in the radioactive set had black legends.  I'm entirely new to the keyboard scene though and I've never participated in a GB before.  Someone give me the push I need to order these.  ;)

You've picked a really sold group buy to join. Samwisekoi and matt3o are very well respected and veterans of previous group buys. IMHO you couldn't have picked a better group buy to join.

Go for it!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 12 August 2014, 11:35:25
Should we add Relegendable Keycaps? (With matching dark green (VV) bases and clear tops.)

1x Relegendable  (includes opaque bottom and a clear top)
10 pcs      $11 each
25 pcs      $5 each
50 pcs      $3 each
75 pcs      $2 each
250 pcs      $1 each

2x Relegendable (includes opaque bottom and a clear top)
Can be used horizontally or vertically; they are the same keycap in SA/R3 profile.
10 pcs      $12 each
25 pcs      $6 each
50 pcs      $4 each
75 pcs      $3 each
150 pcs      $2 each

Please reply if you'd order some of these.  If there is enough interest to hit an MOQ of 25 on both, I'll ask to have them added.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nilpt on Tue, 12 August 2014, 14:04:19
No Relegendables for me, but I must suggest another missing blank option: "stepped caps lock".
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 12 August 2014, 15:18:54
I'm not a big fan of relegendables, but what would be very cool are some windowed 1x keys. I saw those in another sa groupbuy.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 12 August 2014, 15:30:27
I'm not a big fan of relegendables, but what would be very cool are some windowed 1x keys. I saw those in another sa groupbuy.

Ooooh, this would be very cool!  Also ideal for me would be windowed with pad printed legends for the locks, but I totally understand if that's simply not feasible.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 12 August 2014, 15:54:20
Relegendables would be cool.

Would like to have a WASD/QWER orange gamer pack, there aren't really any for SA profile keys on the marker other than the ones from the 23 Commando group buy
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: kalrand on Tue, 12 August 2014, 16:03:55
At those prices, I don't know if the relegendables make much sense unless we get orders for about 75 of them. I mean, I want them, but I don't want to pay $5 for them.

Also, do you know if the 2x keys are single stem or double (like a pos keyboard would use)?


I'd be down for a few windowed keys.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: engicoder on Tue, 12 August 2014, 16:18:16
A bit late to the party here, but was wondering why orange was chosen as the alternate color. Yellow seems to be the color most often associated with things nuclear.
 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 12 August 2014, 17:15:02
A bit late to the party here, but was wondering why orange was chosen as the alternate color. Yellow seems to be the color most often associated with things nuclear.

Picked for best color matching as an accent color.  Also, yellow works really poorly with white legends, and we really wanted to keep a nearly monochrome look.

At those prices, I don't know if the relegendables make much sense unless we get orders for about 75 of them. I mean, I want them, but I don't want to pay $5 for them.

Also, do you know if the 2x keys are single stem or double (like a pos keyboard would use)?

I'd be down for a few windowed keys.

I don't think the relegendables make sense, and I don't think they would hit good volumes.  Unless there is a groundswell of activists calling for their creation, I'm leaving them out.

FYI, SP has 5,000+ 1x SA/R3 relegendable keycaps in WA (WHITE) that will match the legends.

The 2x keycaps are three-stem for use on modern keyboards with stabilizers, NOT two-stem for use on dual-switch matrix keyboards.

Would like to have a WASD/QWER orange gamer pack, there aren't really any for SA profile keys on the marker other than the ones from the 23 Commando group buy

We decided for aesthetic reasons that we wanted almost no accent colors on this set.  The few in the Radioactive Kit were the maximum we wanted to include.  However, because this entire set is Row 3 profile, the deep dish orange arrow keycaps will fit in WASD/ESDF if desired.

I'm not a big fan of relegendables, but what would be very cool are some windowed 1x keys. I saw those in another sa groupbuy.

Ooooh, this would be very cool!  Also ideal for me would be windowed with pad printed legends for the locks, but I totally understand if that's simply not feasible.

No Relegendables for me, but I must suggest another missing blank option: "stepped caps lock".

None of those are going to make the numbers to be included.  However, as with the relegendables, feel free to gather a mob and shout me down from that position!

In the meantime, please make sure you've ordered all the totally cheap and awesome Base Kits you could ever want!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 12 August 2014, 20:11:07
No orange GEEKHACK key in the Radioactive Kit?

Also is there a specific reason for a separate numpad kit when numpad is included in the base set?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Tue, 12 August 2014, 20:13:32
At those prices, I don't know if the relegendables make much sense unless we get orders for about 75 of them. I mean, I want them, but I don't want to pay $5 for them.

Heh, yeah. I was considering getting 15 for the extra keys on my G80-8113, but those 15 caps would cost more then the base set. Sooo 25 cent blanks it is!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 12 August 2014, 20:25:03
No orange GEEKHACK key in the Radioactive Kit?

Also is there a specific reason for a separate numpad kit when numpad is included in the base set?

Probably for those who don't want to buy the base set but would like to have just the Numpad. I did that with the Galaxy Set

I.M.O the Numpad shouldn't of been included in the base kit. Numpads always hit MOQ if the base kit does, and if it wasn't included the base kit would be cheaper and would get more orders. That's the one thing stopping me atm from getting the Base kit, I really don't need the Numpad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 13 August 2014, 10:02:26
Quick update:  I just sent off a request for pricing on a variety of potential small additions in both Green (VV) and Orange (OAS).

More info when I have it.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Wed, 13 August 2014, 16:44:40
dat moneyloss....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 13 August 2014, 19:14:03
dat moneyloss....

Consider it an investment for the future of your Keyboard(s)  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 14 August 2014, 11:20:44
Quick update:  I just sent off a request for pricing on a variety of potential small additions in both Green (VV) and Orange (OAS).

More info when I have it.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

That wouldn't happen to include an orange ISO activate, would it? ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 14 August 2014, 11:36:43
That wouldn't happen to include an orange ISO activate, would it? ;D

No, it would not.

Adding (if there is interest:

Green blank stepped 1.75x keycap at $0.85 each (flat rate).

Orange blank 1x keycap at $0.35 each (flat rate).

Orange blank 2x keycap:
25 pcs   $2.50 each
50 pcs   $1.50 each
75 pcs   $1.25 each
100 pcs   $1.00 each
200 pcs   $0.75 each

Also, no one wanted the numpad, but there were some people who said they wanted to make full-size numeric top rows.  If that is true, we could drop the Keypad Kit and add the following 15-keycap Numbers Kit for $6.00 (flat rate):

[attachimg=1]
Nuclear Data Numbers Kit

Is anyone interested in the new Numbers Kit for six bucks and/or any of the new blanks?

Please reply so I know if I should bother adding them to the group buy.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: snoopy on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:06:39
I would be interested in orange 1x blanks and that numbers kit (that kit is awesome for international layouts or if you dont use the numrow like on ansi standard)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:13:00
Aww, so the ISO boards don't get any orange enter? :(

I.M.O the Numpad shouldn't of been included in the base kit. Numpads always hit MOQ if the base kit does, and if it wasn't included the base kit would be cheaper and would get more orders. That's the one thing stopping me atm from getting the Base kit, I really don't need the Numpad.

You'd think it would be cheaper with a smaller base kit, but SP's quantity ordering don't work that way. Take the recently completed Galaxy Class kit for example; the base set(which has no numpad) cost $70 and the add-on numpad is an extra $24. Now, look at Nuclear Data; all of those keys combined are only $69, and drop to only $64 if it sells the same number of kits that Galaxy Class sold. The more we buy, the cheaper it is. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:18:19
Interested in the orange blanks and numbers kit
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:41:58
Orange blanks!

(http://i.imgur.com/EHQ5LvU.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nilpt on Thu, 14 August 2014, 12:45:37
Interested in:
- Green blank stepped 1.75x - offset not center stem.
- Orange blank 1x
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: lcs on Thu, 14 August 2014, 13:52:29
Possible to have an alphas kit, sam? I'd like them for my edox but 60 for the whole 'useless' caps is kinda :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Thu, 14 August 2014, 14:23:04
dat moneyloss....

Consider it an investment for the future of your Keyboard(s)  8) .

hehe, lets call it that..
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 August 2014, 15:04:35
That wouldn't happen to include an orange ISO activate, would it? ;D

No, it would not.

Adding (if there is interest:

Green blank stepped 1.75x keycap at $0.85 each (flat rate).

Orange blank 1x keycap at $0.35 each (flat rate).

Orange blank 2x keycap:
25 pcs   $2.50 each
50 pcs   $1.50 each
75 pcs   $1.25 each
100 pcs   $1.00 each
200 pcs   $0.75 each

Also, no one wanted the numpad, but there were some people who said they wanted to make full-size numeric top rows.  If that is true, we could drop the Keypad Kit and add the following 15-keycap Numbers Kit for $6.00 (flat rate):

(Attachment Link)
Nuclear Data Numbers Kit

Is anyone interested in the new Numbers Kit for six bucks and/or any of the new blanks?

Please reply so I know if I should bother adding them to the group buy.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi


Still no orange Geekhack key? ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 14 August 2014, 15:33:10
Orange blanks! Yes, please.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: lcs on Thu, 14 August 2014, 17:18:27
Orange blanks! Yes, please.

I'd like orange blanks too :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Cods on Thu, 14 August 2014, 19:46:53
Purchased 2x sets, plus enough of the other (20, 16, 9 & 6 key) sets and blanks to hurt my wallet.
Great idea having various blanks available, as I picked up a few extra 2.25x for the FC660M right shift.

Thanks samwise and matt3o, nice job.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 14 August 2014, 20:41:54
I would buy orange blanks.  Shouldn't have any trouble meeting some sort of MOQ with those.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 15 August 2014, 00:24:42
I would love to see both 1x and 2x orange blanks for my ErgoDox. It sounds like the 1x will easily make MOQ, but maybe not the 2x.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 15 August 2014, 04:52:16
Current status

(http://i.imgur.com/RGbavZm.png)

none tipped yet, but there's plenty of time
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: maladroid on Sat, 16 August 2014, 00:48:33
On another thread it was stated that "the core concept of the set is to remain faithful to the original Nuclear Data legends."  So why isn't the Enter key labeled "RETURN"?  Also, it seems to me Backspace should be "RUB OUT" and Pause/Break should be "BRK".  Apart from these nitpicks, this set looks amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 16 August 2014, 02:06:40
On another thread it was stated that "the core concept of the set is to remain faithful to the original Nuclear Data legends."  So why isn't the Enter key labeled "RETURN"?  Also, it seems to me Backspace should be "RUB OUT" and Pause/Break should be "BRK".  Apart from these nitpicks, this set looks amazing.

I kinda agree with the guy...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 16 August 2014, 02:38:42
On another thread it was stated that "the core concept of the set is to remain faithful to the original Nuclear Data legends."  So why isn't the Enter key labeled "RETURN"?  Also, it seems to me Backspace should be "RUB OUT" and Pause/Break should be "BRK".  Apart from these nitpicks, this set looks amazing.

I kinda agree with the guy...

Then why isn't someone changing it......?  Keep as close to the original concept of this key-set, that is why we're all here buying into it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: RED-404 on Sat, 16 August 2014, 03:05:47
On another thread it was stated that "the core concept of the set is to remain faithful to the original Nuclear Data legends."  So why isn't the Enter key labeled "RETURN"?  Also, it seems to me Backspace should be "RUB OUT" and Pause/Break should be "BRK".  Apart from these nitpicks, this set looks amazing.
I kinda agree with the guy...

Then why isn't someone changing it......?  Keep as close to the original concept of this key-set, that is why we're all here buying into it.

+1 Change it if you can.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 16 August 2014, 05:54:57
SP won't let us I believe
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 16 August 2014, 09:51:33
Wait, what?

There has been a slip between the cup and the lip.  I changed "RUB OUT" to "ERASE", so that was a design decision.   However, the final mock-up from the [IC] thread showed "RETURN", so that is what the legend shall be.

Here is the [IC] mock-up:

(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55640.0;attach=56978;image)
Third+ pass of Nuclear Data keycap set.

SP certainly saw that image.  Unfortunately the final SVG sent to them had the more modern "ENTER", probably due to a template re-use error.

So we will definitely have that fixed.  "RETURN" shall be restored.

I don't care about "BRK" versus "STOP".  They both seem fine to me, and the IC had "STOP" in (IIRC) all markups.  I think that is fine as is, unless someone cares about that key greatly.  All FORTRAN coders, please report in!

TL;DR The "RETURN" key legend will be restored.


 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 16 August 2014, 14:25:28
Awww yisss, ordered ISO, specials and standard set :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: maladroid on Sat, 16 August 2014, 17:11:15
The "RETURN" key legend will be restored.

That's good to hear.  I notice that at some point since the above mock-up was created, the I and J keys acquired serifs.  I assume that is just an artifact of how the graphic was created and not a reflection of how the keys will look?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 16 August 2014, 22:25:36
Wait, what?

There has been a slip between the cup and the lip.  I changed "RUB OUT" to "ERASE", so that was a design decision.   However, the final mock-up from the [IC] thread showed "RETURN", so that is what the legend shall be.

Here is the [IC] mock-up:

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55640.0;attach=56978;image)

Third+ pass of Nuclear Data keycap set.

SP certainly saw that image.  Unfortunately the final SVG sent to them had the more modern "ENTER", probably due to a template re-use error.

So we will definitely have that fixed.  "RETURN" shall be restored.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Your very first design for this Key-set was what got me so interested in your Group Buy here.  It has the OLD world charm from an era that meant absolute destruction, pity it never happened at all.......... :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sun, 17 August 2014, 15:35:10
I notice that at some point since the above mock-up was created, the I and J keys acquired serifs.  I assume that is just an artifact of how the graphic was created and not a reflection of how the keys will look?

Hmm, so it is. He originally pointed out that the Dvorak/Colemak kit has a sans-serif J while the base set is serif, I'm not sure why he removed that, because it's true. The Is in all of the modifiers are also sans-serif, so they're probably all supposed to be sans-serif?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 17 August 2014, 17:50:13
I notice that at some point since the above mock-up was created, the I and J keys acquired serifs.  I assume that is just an artifact of how the graphic was created and not a reflection of how the keys will look?

Hmm, so it is. He originally pointed out that the Dvorak/Colemak kit has a sans-serif J while the base set is serif, I'm not sure why he removed that, because it's true. The Is in all of the modifiers are also sans-serif, so they're probably all supposed to be sans-serif?

Artifact.  I had to use that font to get the slashed zero.  I didn't notice the J until later, and fixed it when I made another correction to the Colemak Kit.  I'll fix it for the Base Kit when I repair the RETURN legend.


Your very first design for this Key-set was what got me so interested in your Group Buy here.  It has the OLD world charm from an era that meant absolute destruction, pity it never happened at all.......... :'(

Tell me more.  I didn't drop the "rub out" because it seemed cold-blooded, but because unless you were a draftsman, you wouldn't know about rubbing-out.  Or unless you were old like me -- and apparently you. :)

Seriously, I'm open to corrections, just not so much gamey affectations.  So since (as I noted before) you have been a supporter of this set from the very start, which legends do you see as missing from the Old-Skool charm of the set?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Looking at the original, I see that it has an 8x spacebar.  That is a terrible length for anything but a full-custom plate, so I didn't ask for it.  If I added it, would anyone buy it?  25 anyones?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 17 August 2014, 19:57:10
Seriously, I'm open to corrections, just not so much gamey affectations.  So since (as I noted before) you have been a supporter of this set from the very start, which legends do you see as missing from the Old-Skool charm of the set?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Here's some words to work into keys on this key-set here;

COMPLETE, RESET, REPEAT, TERMINAL, RUB OUT, BREAK, ABORT and my fave - OVER STRIKE  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:01:27
IMPORTANT QUESTION

30 people have purchased Base Kits and 6 people have purchased ISO Kits with the Enter key labeled "ENTER".

Will you all be fine with Base and ISO Enter keycaps being re-legended as "RETURN" to match the mock-up in the [IC] thread?

Please voice your opinions.  A plurality will carry.

TL;DR Is the legend "RETURN" okay with existing Base and ISO buyers?

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: xavierblak on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:58:48
TL;DR Is the legend "RETURN" okay with existing Base and ISO buyers?

Yup.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 18 August 2014, 12:59:08
totally ok for me
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:17:57
Yes, I would prefer "Return".
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:19:25
I ordered both Base and ISO kits, and I prefer the change back to 'Return'.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: RED-404 on Mon, 18 August 2014, 13:55:38
I welcome the return of "RETURN".
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:01:25
Yes, I want RETURN!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:03:57
I return to this thread to say that the return of the "RETURN" legend to the return key returns me to a state of happiness :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:14:09
I'm not in for an ISO kit, but I'm totally down for "Return" over "Enter".

No sign of orange blanks yet, Sam?  Or were you just teasing us with that one?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 18 August 2014, 15:50:20
Here's some words to work into keys on this key-set here;

COMPLETE, RESET, REPEAT, TERMINAL, RUB OUT, BREAK, ABORT and my fave - OVER STRIKE  :thumb: .

+1

Seems odd to favor some words over others, aka Erase over Rub Out, why not just revert to Backspace/Delete if your concern is clarity over authenticity?

Quote
I don't care about "BRK" versus "STOP".  They both seem fine to me,

See it's those little details that seem minute to you that make all the difference.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 18 August 2014, 19:02:03
I'm not in for an ISO kit, but I'm totally down for "Return" over "Enter".

No sign of orange blanks yet, Sam?  Or were you just teasing us with that one?  ;D

Thanks to all who replied re the return of RETURN.  I shall make the change.  (Actually, the clever among you will have spotted both RETURN and a better J in my latest post in the GH-36 thread.)

Orange blanks will come.  I need to revise all the images for RETURN and fix the J.

Here's some words to work into keys on this key-set here;

COMPLETE, RESET, REPEAT, TERMINAL, RUB OUT, BREAK, ABORT and my fave - OVER STRIKE  :thumb: .

+1

Seems odd to favor some words over others, aka Erase over Rub Out, why not just revert to Backspace/Delete if your concern is clarity over authenticity?

Quote
I don't care about "BRK" versus "STOP".  They both seem fine to me,

See it's those little details that seem minute to you that make all the difference.

Hmmm.  We've been discussing this set for what, two years?  And all of these topics were covered and re-covered in the [IC] thread.

See here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1253416#msg1253416

And here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1254208#msg1254208

And here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1403099#msg1403099

And here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1410100#msg1410100

And finally here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1410136#msg1410136

So I think we can call this set pretty well vetted.  And while *I* don't "care" (meaning don't have strong feelings either way and could do either) some of the people who have already bought the sets as shown might, so changing things now that we are actually in the GB phase is something to be done carefully.  And I clearly do care enough to have kept this idea alive for a very long time, and actually brought it to the table as a real-live Group Buy.

So for now, we will add the orange blanks, fix the J and RETURN legends, shrink the Numbers Kit, and I think that is all.  And we haven't pushed any of those things because we wanted to make sure no existing buyers would object to the return of RETURN, and then make the changes all together.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  I find it odd that no one has mentioned that I never said what we were going to do about a sculpted set.  Just left that one totally hanging.  Nobody noticed a hint by omission.  Huh.  Have another...

Quote
Ron-
We don't have tooling for R4 1.25 in Semi-Matte - while this is something we plan to add to our tooling library, we don't have time to complete it in the near future (probably a couple months out before this is available)...

Just so no one guesses completely wrong, the only time to get the Nuclear Data Green SA alphas (Base Kit) is NOW.

 :cool:

Click the link below and buy those Base Kits so we tip and start the price tumbling!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Mon, 18 August 2014, 20:48:46
I thought someone mentioned that both the 'I' and 'J' in the base set have serifs, but the original inspiration keyboard were san-serifed for both keys.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Mon, 18 August 2014, 22:02:12
He's got that fixed now, it sounds like. Thanks Ron!

Sculpted are part of some other buy, right?

That would mean you can't have sculpted keys and number keys with symbols, right?

Right.  Not that anything is decided about additional row profiles anyhow.

It is certain they won't be in the initial GB. Later?  I can't say yes, but I am not saying no.

Inscrutably yours,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 18 August 2014, 22:03:13
IMPORTANT QUESTION

30 people have purchased Base Kits and 6 people have purchased ISO Kits with the Enter key labeled "ENTER".

Will you all be fine with Base and ISO Enter keycaps being re-legended as "RETURN" to match the mock-up in the [IC] thread?

Please voice your opinions.  A plurality will carry.

TL;DR Is the legend "RETURN" okay with existing Base and ISO buyers?

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I'm perfectly happy with the "RETURN" key change.  Any changes with the keys are fine because I trust your skill in trying to keep this key-set design authentic to the original specs.

Keep it going Ron, we need this baby to finally happen  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 19 August 2014, 02:56:36
...

p.s.  I find it odd that no one has mentioned that I never said what we were going to do about a sculpted set.  Just left that one totally hanging.  Nobody noticed a hint by omission.  Huh.  Have another...

Quote
Ron-
We don't have tooling for R4 1.25 in Semi-Matte - while this is something we plan to add to our tooling library, we don't have time to complete it in the near future (probably a couple months out before this is available)...

Just so no one guesses completely wrong, the only time to get the Nuclear Data Green SA alphas (Base Kit) is NOW.

 :cool:

Click the link below and buy those Base Kits so we tip and start the price tumbling!

I recall you were still getting confirmation about the capabilities for sculpted... So I made the assumption you would either add the sculpted kits later or do a separate GB for them. I'm okay with either option so I kept my trap shut.

Happy to get the R3 base set now and HOPING to be able to get the sculpted kit later. IIRC, Matt3o made mention that the Midnight or Retro SA set would possibly be the first to get full sculpted kit?

Anyway, great to know SP will be able to make semi-matte R4 1.25x caps at some point, although I would be happy with matte, too. I think a bigger problem would be the lack of 2x R1 for backspace and R4 shifts (assuming full sculpted: R3, R1, R2, R3, R4, R3).

Quote from the Midnight IC thread:

I'd like to support:

3-1-2-3-4-3

3-1-2-3-3-4

1-2-3-3-3-3

That should be possible, starting from a base kit of 3-3-3-3-3-3... but I have to make some mock-ups.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52684.msg1425743#msg1425743
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Tue, 19 August 2014, 08:01:33
I'm not in for an ISO kit, but I'm totally down for "Return" over "Enter".

No sign of orange blanks yet, Sam?  Or were you just teasing us with that one?  ;D

Thanks to all who replied re the return of RETURN.  I shall make the change.  (Actually, the clever among you will have spotted both RETURN and a better J in my latest post in the GH-36 thread.)

Orange blanks will come.  I need to revise all the images for RETURN and fix the J.

Huzzah!  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 19 August 2014, 08:22:03
p.s.  I find it odd that no one has mentioned that I never said what we were going to do about a sculpted set.  Just left that one totally hanging.  Nobody noticed a hint by omission.  Huh.  Have another...

Quote
Ron-
We don't have tooling for R4 1.25 in Semi-Matte - while this is something we plan to add to our tooling library, we don't have time to complete it in the near future (probably a couple months out before this is available)...

Just so no one guesses completely wrong, the only time to get the Nuclear Data Green SA alphas (Base Kit) is NOW.

 :cool:

Click the link below and buy those Base Kits so we tip and start the price tumbling!

I honestly can't decide if it's worth it to me to buy a complete set of these in uniform profile in order to cover the possibility that later on down the road, a sculpted add-on pack might or might not be available. That's quite a lot of keycaps to purchase, that will just be wasted if I only want to use a sculpted profile.

Decisions.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 August 2014, 08:27:51
p.s.  I find it odd that no one has mentioned that I never said what we were going to do about a sculpted set.  Just left that one totally hanging.  Nobody noticed a hint by omission.  Huh.  Have another...

Quote
Ron-
We don't have tooling for R4 1.25 in Semi-Matte - while this is something we plan to add to our tooling library, we don't have time to complete it in the near future (probably a couple months out before this is available)...

Just so no one guesses completely wrong, the only time to get the Nuclear Data Green SA alphas (Base Kit) is NOW.

 :cool:

Click the link below and buy those Base Kits so we tip and start the price tumbling!

I honestly can't decide if it's worth it to me to buy a complete set of these in uniform profile in order to cover the possibility that later on down the road, a sculpted add-on pack might or might not be available. That's quite a lot of keycaps to purchase, that will just be wasted if I only want to use a sculpted profile.

Decisions.

You can always stick them on one of your spare boards and use it as wall art in the future corporate offices of carpe keyboards ;) :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 08:39:10
All changes have been submitted to PMK.  Unfortunately this seems to have had the temporary effect of hiding the group buy from the public site.

It is 06:35 in California and Washington right now, so I assume this will get pushed back out to the public site during the business day in this time zone.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  JD - a JD40 would look great with all SA Row 3 keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Tue, 19 August 2014, 09:55:30
All changes have been submitted to PMK.  Unfortunately this seems to have had the temporary effect of hiding the group buy from the public site.

It is 06:35 in California and Washington right now, so I assume this will get pushed back out to the public site during the business day in this time zone.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  JD - a JD40 would look great with all SA Row 3 keycaps.

SP must have to "approve" the changes from the web site backend.  That's a pretty strange way for them to do it, but I guess it gets the job done.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 19 August 2014, 11:08:23
The set is back up.  I think the issue was that I made a change to the parent, so it went into a "pending approval" state.

I see that when I switched the J on the base kit, I did not properly vertically align it.  Unless there is some other reason to change that image, I am not taking the group buy down to fix that error.

TL; DR The RETURN legend and J  serif are fixed.  I know about the vertical alignment of the J.  That is an image error.  Deal with it.


Cheers!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Thanks, Elrick.  I appreciated the words of encouragement last night.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 19 August 2014, 14:01:36
Any chance to make the set fully compatible to jd40? I know its already very late.... But maybe...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: kalrand on Tue, 19 August 2014, 14:12:44
Any chance to make the set fully compatible to jd40? I know its already very late.... But maybe...

I'm probably going to get some blank keys to do just that.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:48:22
p.s.  I find it odd that no one has mentioned that I never said what we were going to do about a sculpted set.  Just left that one totally hanging.  Nobody noticed a hint by omission.  Huh.  Have another...

Quote
Ron-
We don't have tooling for R4 1.25 in Semi-Matte - while this is something we plan to add to our tooling library, we don't have time to complete it in the near future (probably a couple months out before this is available)...

Just so no one guesses completely wrong, the only time to get the Nuclear Data Green SA alphas (Base Kit) is NOW.

 :cool:

Click the link below and buy those Base Kits so we tip and start the price tumbling!

I honestly can't decide if it's worth it to me to buy a complete set of these in uniform profile in order to cover the possibility that later on down the road, a sculpted add-on pack might or might not be available. That's quite a lot of keycaps to purchase, that will just be wasted if I only want to use a sculpted profile.

Decisions.

I liked when jd would just buy everything regardless of intent to use it.   :)) 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: maladroid on Tue, 19 August 2014, 18:30:19
I see that when I switched the J on the base kit, I did not properly vertically align it.  Unless there is some other reason to change that image, I am not taking the group buy down to fix that error.

Just so long as Signature Plastics doesn't think it is intentional and dutifully replicate the raised letter when they make the keys.

I want to make sure I'm clear on one thing:  Will all the legends (other than the nuclear symbol and arrows) be in SP's standard Gorton Modified font?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Pliny on Tue, 19 August 2014, 23:40:06
IMPORTANT QUESTION

30 people have purchased Base Kits and 6 people have purchased ISO Kits with the Enter key labeled "ENTER".

Will you all be fine with Base and ISO Enter keycaps being re-legended as "RETURN" to match the mock-up in the [IC] thread?

Please voice your opinions.  A plurality will carry.

TL;DR Is the legend "RETURN" okay with existing Base and ISO buyers?

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I'm down for 2 sets and I prefer the RETURN - more retro is better!

PS: hi, all
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 August 2014, 23:41:11
I'm down for 2 sets and I prefer the RETURN - more retro is better!

PS: hi, all

Welcome to Geekhack!

First post committing to spend money ... I like that :))
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Wed, 20 August 2014, 01:18:25
I dont mind what the enter/return key is labeled as.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Heliosphere on Wed, 20 August 2014, 01:56:21
I think Return works better since this is supposed to be an old-school keyset which has some uncommon labels.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 20 August 2014, 02:09:52
If there were a JD40 mods kit, I would buy both a base kit and JD40 kit so I could use Vibex's JWUP layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 20 August 2014, 08:18:12

Just so long as Signature Plastics doesn't think it is intentional and dutifully replicate the raised letter when they make the keys.

I want to make sure I'm clear on one thing:  Will all the legends (other than the nuclear symbol and arrows) be in SP's standard Gorton Modified font?

The error was in the images for the web site, not production.  Nevertheless, we will be checking the final SVG files carefully.

I do not know the font; it should be the same as Round4, but I will check.

If there were a JD40 mods kit, I would buy both a base kit and JD40 kit so I could use Vibex's JWUP layout.

I was trying to figure out exactly what those mods would be, and quickly realized it is layout-dependent.  Mine is different than the one you posted in the "Show me" thread, and I haven't seen Vibex' layout.

What is the "standard" JD40 layout, and which sizes and legends are missing?  What is the JD40 Mod Kit, exactly?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Thu, 21 August 2014, 09:35:33
I see orange blanks!

(http://i.imgur.com/MHNfrGW.gif)

ORANGE BLANKS!  YAY!

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 21 August 2014, 09:55:33
What is the "standard" JD40 layout, and which sizes and legends are missing?  What is the JD40 Mod Kit, exactly?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Well, I was thinking along the lines of a 1x Fn, 1x Bksp or Back, 1.25x Tab, 1.25x Shift, 1.75x Return, 1.75x Shift, bundled together. Maybe a 1x Ctrl and 1x Alt, too. Just so you don't have to buy several different kits to cover "standard" legends. I know blanks are readily available, and 1.25x mods are covered by the base set.

"Standard" layout would be something like this, although of course everyone is going to have their own tweaks:

(http://i.imgur.com/co6mcFN.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: chrisq on Thu, 21 August 2014, 14:18:02
Yeah, I got in on this group buy as well, and pushed the blank 2x orange keys past MOQ...
Fortunately I have a job  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 21 August 2014, 17:50:50
What is the "standard" JD40 layout, and which sizes and legends are missing?  What is the JD40 Mod Kit, exactly?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Well, I was thinking along the lines of a 1x Fn, 1x Bksp or Back, 1.25x Tab, 1.25x Shift, 1.75x Return, 1.75x Shift, bundled together. Maybe a 1x Ctrl and 1x Alt, too. Just so you don't have to buy several different kits to cover "standard" legends. I know blanks are readily available, and 1.25x mods are covered by the base set.

"Standard" layout would be something like this, although of course everyone is going to have their own tweaks:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/co6mcFN.jpg)


Ok, I'll look at that.

Me, I am going with custom printed WASD keycaps in OEM profile, but I think a DCS JD40 set would be sweet!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 21 August 2014, 18:42:44
I just put in my order for the base kit, with ErgoDox blank modifiers in green and orange, and the radioactive kit.

Will the child deals that have tipped go through if the parent deal doesn't tip?

And this will be the last time I bring this up, is the 'I' in the base key supposed to be serifed? If yes, it no longer matches the san-serifed 'J' and the keyboard that inspired this set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 21 August 2014, 19:05:34
Whoa, the Iso kit is free now! I'm guessing it's just SP's mistake though... Should we tell them?  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 21 August 2014, 19:09:24
Will the child deals that have tipped go through if the parent deal doesn't tip?

I bid on a child deal that didn't tip, and the parent did ... and I got nothing. I'm pretty sure I tried getting a tipped child deal with an un-tipped parent, and no -- they don't produce anything. The child deal prices assume the parent deal "tips" thus making working with that color/mold worthwhile for SP.

So ... buy an extra base kit? There's a GB for phantom plates running another week; you could build / sell an ANSI150 phantom to pay for your home keyboard maybe? I' still considering doing that, actually.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 21 August 2014, 20:42:54
So, why is this thread in the GB section instead of the SP subforum like all the other PMK buys? Not trying to stir things up, I just know I'd love to post mine in here if we're allowing that now.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 August 2014, 20:48:40
So, why is this thread in the GB section instead of the SP subforum like all the other PMK buys? Not trying to stir things up, I just know I'd love to post mine in here if we're allowing that now.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.msg1422386#msg1422386
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 21 August 2014, 20:50:50
So, why is this thread in the GB section instead of the SP subforum like all the other PMK buys? Not trying to stir things up, I just know I'd love to post mine in here if we're allowing that now.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.msg1422386#msg1422386

Thanks, missed that.  I still wish I could post mine in here without getting it banished :(  Or anyone who came up with a nice cap set who wants SP to handle the distribution for that matter.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:18:44
Are these keycaps PBT or ABS?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 21 August 2014, 23:45:57
Are these keycaps PBT or ABS?

Doubleshot ABS.  It's not possible to dyesub the lighter legends onto a darker keycap.  That's always a good indication.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 22 August 2014, 00:00:05
Are these keycaps PBT or ABS?

Doubleshot ABS.  It's not possible to dyesub the lighter legends onto a darker keycap.  That's always a good indication.   :thumb:

Sorry for the noob question ^_^ Totally remember reading that on the SP page too LOL
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 August 2014, 03:21:36
So, why is this thread in the GB section instead of the SP subforum like all the other PMK buys? Not trying to stir things up, I just know I'd love to post mine in here if we're allowing that now.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.msg1422386#msg1422386

I'm pretty bitter about the whole situation
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 22 August 2014, 05:15:13
Still 15 base sets to go, and 10 specialty kits....

I'm having trouble logging in at PMK currently. Want to order some orange blanks! Even the "Reset password" link doesn't send an email...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 August 2014, 05:53:18
I'm pretty bitter about the whole situation

No need to be bud.  Life's to short to waste it on frivolous matters only, instead concentrate on the great stuff that's coming our way here  :thumb: .

It should tip easily and we can ogle at some decent old-style key-sets to fill up on some keyboards here.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 22 August 2014, 08:17:12
PMK is back up. Probably down for the nightly back-up job.

Yes we should tell them about the ISO price.

And I was away when the vendor-directed thing happened, so I put this thread where I would have done normally.  And now I am working on sorting that policy out -- in the background.

Meanwhile, nobody worry about the Base Set 'tipping'. It already broke 25, and we think it will break 100. If nothing else, these sets will be good to have for later sale or trade.

I do have to figure out all the serifs and images once and for all, however!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 22 August 2014, 08:44:25
current status

(http://i.imgur.com/EauxyLU.png)

ISO at $0 is quite interesting :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Fri, 22 August 2014, 08:53:44
What is the "standard" JD40 layout, and which sizes and legends are missing?  What is the JD40 Mod Kit, exactly?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Well, I was thinking along the lines of a 1x Fn, 1x Bksp or Back, 1.25x Tab, 1.25x Shift, 1.75x Return, 1.75x Shift, bundled together. Maybe a 1x Ctrl and 1x Alt, too. Just so you don't have to buy several different kits to cover "standard" legends. I know blanks are readily available, and 1.25x mods are covered by the base set.

"Standard" layout would be something like this, although of course everyone is going to have their own tweaks:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/co6mcFN.jpg)


Maybe I'm missing something, because I thought the 16-key Speciality Kit (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/16-key-specialty-kit/) covered the base JD40.  Am I wrong?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 22 August 2014, 13:11:22
Letting everyone know that as a companion to this set, I have created a Fallout novelty keycap that will be up for the exact time left of this deal. All the keycap dimensions will be the same, so grab yours today:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=159.0
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Fri, 22 August 2014, 14:55:32
Samwisekoi -- I think I saw you driving around Nashville yesterday. So RUDE you didn't stop and say hello!  >:D

Don't deny it, I have PROOF!!!!!!

(http://l.mashby.com/iftH+)

 ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 22 August 2014, 15:19:57
Letting everyone know that as a companion to this set, I have created a Fallout novelty keycap that will be up for the exact time left of this deal. All the keycap dimensions will be the same, so grab yours today:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=159.0

I think you meant to link to [GB] Out of the Vault: Inspired by Fallout - Vault 13 - SA Row 3 Double Shot (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62055.0).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 22 August 2014, 15:22:53
Letting everyone know that as a companion to this set, I have created a Fallout novelty keycap that will be up for the exact time left of this deal. All the keycap dimensions will be the same, so grab yours today:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=159.0

I think you meant to link to [GB] Out of the Vault: Inspired by Fallout - Vault 13 - SA Row 3 Double Shot (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62055.0).

I can't figure out how to do that...doh! PM me with instructs, so's I don't bore people with my lack of linkage, my lackage... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:07:15
I bid on a child deal that didn't tip, and the parent did ... and I got nothing. I'm pretty sure I tried getting a tipped child deal with an un-tipped parent, and no -- they don't produce anything. The child deal prices assume the parent deal "tips" thus making working with that color/mold worthwhile for SP.

I guess that makes sense. I was hoping that even if the parent deal didn't tip, they would still make the 33 (current) Radioactive kits, along with the 157 1x green blanks, the 61 1.5x green blanks, and the 79 1x orange blanks. That's a pretty good number of key caps there.

Quote
So ... buy an extra base kit? There's a GB for phantom plates running another week; you could build / sell an ANSI150 phantom to pay for your home keyboard maybe? I' still considering doing that, actually.

Sorry, I only have 4 keyboards with Cherry MX keys. And have no plans to buy any more staggered keyboards.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green Old-Skool Keycaps ($63 at 100 sets!)
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 24 August 2014, 08:53:25
Updated OP #2 with the following statement and image.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.msg1419192#msg1419192

Go to OP#2 (click on the link above) to see the revised image!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

NEW FONTS ON IMAGES

This is not live on PMK yet, but I went through the "official" SVG file and updated all the alphas, numbers, and function key legends to better match what we expect will be on the keycaps.

Here is a full image of the initial sets.  (I will also update the alternative combinations, e.g. Dvorak/Colemak.)

This is as close to the actual final fonts as I can get with a mock-up. 

Note the sans-serif "I", the updated "J", the base-less "1". The awesome slashed zeros.

I'll send this to SP as-is and split up into little images for the website.

OK?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 24 August 2014, 09:03:09
ISO Kit is still at $0...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: maladroid on Sun, 24 August 2014, 10:13:20
Looks like we're back to "ENTER" and the slash has disappeared from the 0) key.  Also, the vertical alignment of -_ is way off.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 24 August 2014, 10:37:50
Looks like we're back to "ENTER" and the slash has disappeared from the 0) key.  Also, the vertical alignment of -_ is way off.

<sigh>  That was done at 5:30am - will fix these and any other errors discovered.

Also, please remember this is a mock-up!

ISO Kit is still at $0...

And they have been out of the office since Thursday afternoon, so it hasn't even been reported, let alone fixed.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nomaded on Sun, 24 August 2014, 15:45:38
Looks like we're back to "ENTER" and the slash has disappeared from the 0) key.  Also, the vertical alignment of -_ is way off.

<sigh>  That was done at 5:30am - will fix these and any other errors discovered.

Also, please remember this is a mock-up!


In addition to the missing slash in the 0) key, the F10 key is also missing the slash. But other than the already mention errors of the new mockup, everything else looks OK to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 24 August 2014, 18:13:24
OK.  The image is fixed.  And this time I mean it.  ;)

The slashed zero is a special legend they have.  I believe we'll have to live with the tiny zero on the F10 key as-is.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 24 August 2014, 19:08:58
OK.  The image is fixed.  And this time I mean it.  ;)

The slashed zero is a special legend they have.  I believe we'll have to live with the tiny zero on the F10 key as-is.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Okay, you mean the the key with these 2 figures -    ")" and "0" ?

I don't get why you need to change the Zero's to slashed figures because it's a European element, which shouldn't be applied to an AMERICAN keyboard layout.  Don't get why you need to alter the figures that now make it look way too funky.  Maybe I'm wrong here but I prefer the original layout you used Sam because it looks appropriate and correct.

I noticed that F10 looks alright, the same as all the other numbers  :-\ .

Can you get Matt3o to provide a corrected image so that the whole keyboard layout isn't conflicted as it looks now?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 24 August 2014, 21:12:37
Draftsmen even in America slash zeros, sevens and zeds.  I do that 100% of the time.

Also SP's old legends had the slashed zero.  Just not the F10 and as you point out, the 0) keycap.

I'll post a photo of the ancient piece of brass the zero will be shot with.  Real American history.

Truth.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 24 August 2014, 21:20:36
I'll post a photo of the ancient piece of brass the zero will be shot with.  Real American history.

Truth.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Then you Americans are closely aligned with the rest of Europe rather than having anything to do with the UK in any respect.  Here in Australia a lined in zero represents a European element because in England no one crosses a zero out (old style schooling here in Convict Town).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 25 August 2014, 01:24:00
slashed 0 is an European thing?  maybe you are confused with Scandinavian's Ø, but that's a vowel, not a Zero.

Slashed zero is used (even in America) as a disambiguation with uppercase "O". It's mostly an old computers thing, but it's not uncommon in monospaced fonts.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 25 August 2014, 02:04:42
Slashed zero is used (even in America) as a disambiguation with uppercase "O". It's mostly an old computers thing, but it's not uncommon in monospaced fonts.

I don't mind it being used BUT did you see it's size compared to the rest of the numbers used  :-[ ?  Any smaller and I'll  need to break out my magnifying glass to even see it (old man here).

Can you make the "0" below the ")" 2 points LARGER, to go with the rest of the numbers in that line ?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Mon, 25 August 2014, 07:45:08
Slashed zero is used (even in America) as a disambiguation with uppercase "O". It's mostly an old computers thing, but it's not uncommon in monospaced fonts.

Exactly how I use it.

I kinda wish the zero numeral was slashed in all fonts to differentiate from an O.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 August 2014, 08:09:29
Can you make the "0" below the ")" 2 points LARGER, to go with the rest of the numbers in that line ?

It looks small in post #1, but looks perfectly fine in post #2.  I believe the second post is the updated version.  Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:04:27
OK, let's all back up here for a moment.

This is a DOUBLE-SHOT keycap set.  That means that no matter which font I make the MOCK-UP it won't change the ACTUAL LEGEND.  All of this beyond Enter/Return and the slashed-zero on the number pads ARE FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE ON THE WEB ONLY.

The font used in mockups does not affect the physical molds used for the keycap legends.

This is NOT a dye-sublimation keycap set.

Please, please, please calm down.

We have asked for THE LARGEST FONT SIZE THEY CAN PLACE ON KEYCAPS.  It will look EXACTLY like Round 3 EXCEPT for the words we chose, the special glyphs, and the slashed zero.

Now, I would very much like to stop talking about the WEBSITE MOCKUPS.  If I have forgotten to mention something in this rant, please don't immediately reply with a question about the Swedish slashed-O or something.

Did I mention this is a double-shot set THAT WILL BE TOTALLY AWESOME.  The pixels on my screen or yours have no power over brass and steel.

TOTALLY AWESOME!

[/rant]

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  I hesitate to post the attached genuinely old slashed-zero mold piece because it might generate a bunch of questions about mold marks.  Please don't make me regret providing this awesome piece of ACTUAL HISTORY we will be using to make this AWESOME keycap set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:07:03
yes okay I get it. but J is still wrong. and is this sublimated?

 :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:13:23
yes okay I get it. but J is still wrong. and is this sublimated?

 :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

Just because you invented banking, modern art, and started the freaking Renaissance, does not make you Florentines ALL smarty-pants.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:41:28
That mold is bad-ass!  :cool:


PS: Still pissed you drove right past me (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61198.msg1445702#msg1445702) without waving. Just sayin'.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:56:29
Please, please, please calm down.

Didn't seem like anyone was getting upset.   :llama:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:30:37
Lleaping llamas!  That wasn't me driving that truck.  I drive an all-electric Fiat 500e.  In California!

Also, I am calm now.  Been running traces for a 24-column, 122+ switch keyboard PCB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62003.0) for the last week, and I am starting to see them in my sleep.

Keyboards, think of lovely keyboards.

With AWESOME Nuclear Data Green (double-shot) keycaps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:40:09
if only SP could dye-sub SA....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:51:15
if only SP could dye-sub SA....

...I would be putting a bespoke Granite set on my JD40 later today.

With Fn-layer legends in a second color!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Mon, 25 August 2014, 11:13:56

if only SP could dye-sub SA....

What about an outside company for the dyesub on SA blanks? I'm thinking of the Star Trek set that was done this way.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 11:24:28

if only SP could dye-sub SA....

What about an outside company for the dyesub on SA blanks? I'm thinking of the Star Trek set that was done this way.

I am going to get some blanks and see if WASD Keyboards can use their new UV printing process on SP's SA keycaps.  Especially if they can do a good white on the dark green.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 25 August 2014, 11:26:59

if only SP could dye-sub SA....

What about an outside company for the dyesub on SA blanks? I'm thinking of the Star Trek set that was done this way.

I am going to get some blanks and see if WASD Keyboards can use their new UV printing process on SP's SA keycaps.  Especially if they can do a good white on the dark green.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

This sounds interesting....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:37:11
whats wrong with doubleshots? :P im waiting for my CTRL60, these will fit right on it! green leds green caps and purple feet and 110 greens/greys(havent decided yet) num num num
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:19:33
nothing wrong with doubleshot, it's ABS that sucks.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: pasph on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:49:34

if only SP could dye-sub SA....

What about an outside company for the dyesub on SA blanks? I'm thinking of the Star Trek set that was done this way.

I am going to get some blanks and see if WASD Keyboards can use their new UV printing process on SP's SA keycaps.  Especially if they can do a good white on the dark green.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Maybe someone in China can do SA dyesub (a call to Imsto)?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: 0100010 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:55:34
Order placed.   :eek:   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:57:11
nothing wrong with doubleshot, it's ABS that sucks.

Oh Matt, I know you're a hardcore Dye-sub fanatic but this set is still brilliant whilst still using ABS  ^-^ .

Currently using the the 10th Anniversary special and it's sublime to type on but the normal ABS is still nice in doing the job of inputting data into your PC/internet.

Currently liking Sam's all Green set because it has the TRADITIONAL colour of "British Racing Green" which is still my all time favourite colour used.  Having it on a keyboard just makes it way cooler  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:31:33
Currently liking Sam's all Green set because it has the TRADITIONAL colour of "British Racing Green" which is still my all time favourite colour used.  Having it on a keyboard just makes it way cooler  :thumb:

look closer at the signature in the first post :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:21:23
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: chrisq on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:04:03
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

I would get the CUT/COPY/PASTE/UNDO keys for sure.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:04:23
Those don't sound like anything I need, personally.  But I'm just one among many.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: mashby on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:22:11
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

1. M1-M12 Keys -- Is that a replacement for the function row?

2. Green Relegendable -- Yes please!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:32:31
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

Honestly, I would probably buy them all.    >:D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:20:57
I'd be interested in set 3 and either 1 or 2, depending on whatever tipped.

Oh, and a white on orange "Activate" ISO enter like those ANSI guys get in the radioactive kit.  :D

1. M1-M12 Keys -- Is that a replacement for the function row?

That or terminal boards that have another row of function keys(normally F13 through F24).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: chrisq on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:08:48
IMPORTANT QUESTION


How about a 1.25 COMPOSE key?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: maladroid on Tue, 26 August 2014, 18:05:26
How about a 1.25 COMPOSE key?

Oh, yes, please!  I want that very much.  Also 1.25 SUPER keys, but I gather that has already been suggested and shot down.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: nukec on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:48:14
When is this think getting shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:57:56
Currently liking Sam's all Green set because it has the TRADITIONAL colour of "British Racing Green" which is still my all time favourite colour used.  Having it on a keyboard just makes it way cooler  :thumb:

look closer at the signature in the first post :)

Dear Sir,

Please post a link to what exactly you are referring to?  Forgive a rancid old man's eye's that is too tired to see everything clearly especially after a hard night's shift  ??? .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 27 August 2014, 03:53:03
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

I'm not really interested in any of those. The orange blanks completed the set for me :D This is a GREAT set. Thank you for taking the time to do this properly and getting feedback constantly through this thread.

It's appreciated. Can't wait for these to be produced and shipped :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Wed, 27 August 2014, 07:05:59
this is my first post on geekhack which I am doing *after*  ;D I have already placed an order for the base kit + 20 special key set + ISO keyset !  :cool:

Would these be enough for CoolerMaster Quick Fire XT ? ( PS: I have just ordered the keyboard and have not received it yet !  ;D )

btw, i would gladly buy the full sculpted add-ons if it become available...

PS: i am a noob on mechanical keyboards.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Data on Wed, 27 August 2014, 08:07:00
Looks like that board has the standard key sizes so you should be OK with just the base set.  ISO Enter will not work, of course, unless there's an ISO layout version of the XT that I'm unaware of.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Wed, 27 August 2014, 08:47:10
I got it off this UK site. ( I am from the UK )

http://www.ballicom.co.uk/sgk4030gkcm1uk-cooler-master-cm-storm-quick-fire-xt--mechanical-gaming-keyboard--brown-cherry-mx-switches.p986604.html

Not really sure. But anyway I am really excited on getting the keycaps , more so that getting the keyboard itself ..lol !   ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Wed, 27 August 2014, 10:26:39
yep just now confirmed it . Its an ISO UK layout. So i get to use the big fat "RETURN" key ! :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: chrisq on Wed, 27 August 2014, 11:13:08
yep just now confirmed it . Its an ISO UK layout. So i get to use the big fat "RETURN" key ! :cool:

I thought as much based in the UK in the SKU, but I couldn't find _any_ pictures of it online...
Welcome to geekhack btw, and good choice of first GB  :))
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:53:00
yep just now confirmed it . Its an ISO UK layout. So i get to use the big fat "RETURN" key ! :cool:

I thought as much based in the UK in the SKU, but I couldn't find _any_ pictures of it online...
Welcome to geekhack btw, and good choice of first GB  :))

Thanks mate !
True. I was confused by the lack of images. So i checked here - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cooler-master-quick-fire-xt-cherry-brown-62-03-ballicom-1982979#post22654967

will post mine once i get it
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 28 August 2014, 01:31:16
People need to buy more specialty kits!

This kit will increase the resale value / size of potential market a lot, since with the specialty kit you can fit this set onto practically ANY Cherry MX board layout, from the KBT Pure to the Keycool 84 to the G80-1800... So even if you don't need it to make it fit your board, it will help if you ever do get a board with a more obscure layout or if you decide to sell the set.

I really want the specialty to tip since if it doesn't I won't be able to put this set on my board :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Thu, 28 August 2014, 03:20:02
i did, i want he GH key >_<
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Thu, 28 August 2014, 03:23:54
 ;D ;D :)) ;D ;D

had a strange dream yesterday ( obviously after reading about keysets for the whole day )

all of a sudden the "orange" keys are morphing, and the keyset has now become Michelangelo !!!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: henz on Thu, 28 August 2014, 03:29:46
i did, i want he GH key >_<

oop nvm, didn buy it... was talking about the radioactive kit, maybe i will buy it though.

What will happen if i make anoter order, will it be added to my current shipment?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 28 August 2014, 04:45:43
i did, i want he GH key >_<

oop nvm, didn buy it... was talking about the radioactive kit, maybe i will buy it though.

What will happen if i make anoter order, will it be added to my current shipment?

Yup, it should be. I'm going to be adding a bunch of blank orange caps to my order as soon as I work out my PMK login issues.

<Start RANT>
To be perfectly honest, I REALLY don't think the PMK GB "feature" is of any real use or benefit. It'll take some time to gather all my thoughts on the issue, but I really do think it was better when GB's were only run by experienced people (who know how much hard work goes into a GB and are willing to do it, including the sorting and mailing) and everyone and their dog wasn't starting a GB for their "Ohmagerd! Lookit! I made a keycap set!" that bleeds orders from the quality sets. It only ends in tears when the newb's set doesn't tip and the good sets go into production with lower numbers and higher prices or don't tip either.

The old way produced legendary sets that are coveted by those who buy them. The new way produces.... not very much, and at a higher price point / lower value.
</End RANT>
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: chrisq on Thu, 28 August 2014, 05:00:20
i did, i want he GH key >_<

oop nvm, didn buy it... was talking about the radioactive kit, maybe i will buy it though.

What will happen if i make anoter order, will it be added to my current shipment?

They will do that for you, just email mpetersen AT solutionsinplastic.com to make sure the order is combined for shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 28 August 2014, 07:26:58
<Start RANT>
To be perfectly honest, I REALLY don't think the PMK GB "feature" is of any real use or benefit. It'll take some time to gather all my thoughts on the issue, but I really do think it was better when GB's were only run by experienced people (who know how much hard work goes into a GB and are willing to do it, including the sorting and mailing) and everyone and their dog wasn't starting a GB for their "Ohmagerd! Lookit! I made a keycap set!" that bleeds orders from the quality sets. It only ends in tears when the newb's set doesn't tip and the good sets go into production with lower numbers and higher prices or don't tip either.

The old way produced legendary sets that are coveted by those who buy them. The new way produces.... not very much, and at a higher price point / lower value.
</End RANT>

This.

However, speaking as the person who manually fulfilled the (largest?) GB in recent GH history, the Retro DSA set, that sorting and mailing part is HORRIBLE!

But I am saddened by the dilution.  I think it results in a poorer result for the community, even if it means more people get to "run" group buys.

I have been talking to some other senior mods and admins, and will (possibly) be starting a discussion thread about this whole issue.

But in the meantime, please go buy Nuclear Data Green Base and Specialty Kits!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:39:43
i did, i want he GH key >_<

oop nvm, didn buy it... was talking about the radioactive kit, maybe i will buy it though.

What will happen if i make anoter order, will it be added to my current shipment?

Yup, it should be. I'm going to be adding a bunch of blank orange caps to my order as soon as I work out my PMK login issues.

<Start RANT>
To be perfectly honest, I REALLY don't think the PMK GB "feature" is of any real use or benefit. It'll take some time to gather all my thoughts on the issue, but I really do think it was better when GB's were only run by experienced people (who know how much hard work goes into a GB and are willing to do it, including the sorting and mailing) and everyone and their dog wasn't starting a GB for their "Ohmagerd! Lookit! I made a keycap set!" that bleeds orders from the quality sets. It only ends in tears when the newb's set doesn't tip and the good sets go into production with lower numbers and higher prices or don't tip either.

The old way produced legendary sets that are coveted by those who buy them. The new way produces.... not very much, and at a higher price point / lower value.
</End RANT>

My thoughts:

It's already been discussed, and from what I can tell, the policy of where to put the group buy threads is currently being reviewed. That said, I don't think visibility, or the lack thereof, is the problem with PMK-run group buys.

The problem is the belief that anyone and everyone can and should run a group buy.

There used to exist a high barrier to entry as a group buy organizer. You had to design a great colorway, with legend choices, kit choices, etc. AND you had to run an interest check, start a group buy thread, take orders, take payments, order the keycaps from SP, sort the keycaps into sets, and ship them out to the GB partictpants. That was all VERY HARD WORK. So only the truly dedicated would attempt it. But now, anyone with an idea for a colorway that THEY PERSONALLY WANT can go to the PMK site, set up a GB, and away it runs. This is not a good model for the community, although it is exactly the business model that Signature Plastics is looking for.

Also, as DanielT said, there is a problem of too many group buys running at the same time. With the previous method of running group buys, the organizers would communicate with each other, so as not to overlap their group buys and dilute the buying power of the group. There should be a maximum of one full set group buy running per month, to allow people time to recoup funds if they wish to participate in more than one GB.

And finally there is the problem of breadth. Group buys should be interesting to a wide group of people. As an organizer, when you choose a certain profile for the keycaps, you lock in that choice for everyone. Not everyone likes DSA or SA, and not everyone prefers PBT dyesub over ABS double shot. There is a very vocal minority, whose keyboard choice (e.g. ErgoDox) dictates to them what keysets in which profiles they will buy. However, when creating a group buy targeted toward a large audience, those concerns should be secondary. The organizer should assume that the base user, or the target audience of the set, owns an 87-key or 104-key keyboard, and plan the set around that. Not think of that as a secondary market.

As far as visibility of the group buy goes, yes, the organizer needs to post regular updates and keep the thread alive, no matter which section of the forum the thread is posted in. That way when people click the "UNREAD" link at the top of the page, the thread appears in the list, and thus the buy remains visible.

... and buy Nuclear Data, because Ron is one of those who overcame that high barrier to entry and ran a very successful group buy with matt3o. :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: neotrinity on Thu, 28 August 2014, 14:25:24
Hey Guys another noob question ...

What will be the size of the space bar in the base set ?

I was reading some forum that the CM Quick Fire XT  has a 6.5 size for the spacebar .. ?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 August 2014, 14:36:01
Hey Guys another noob question ...

What will be the size of the space bar in the base set ?

I was reading some forum that the CM Quick Fire XT  has a 6.5 size for the spacebar .. ?

Unless that's a UK specific thing the CM XT should have a standard 6.25x spacebar and that is what is included with the base set. The quickfire TK has an odd size spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 28 August 2014, 14:42:52
While we're on the verge of taking this thread completely off topic, I'd have to say that SP handling the ordering, money collection, and shipping is not something to take lightly. It's also not particularity helpful to have a small set of "elite group buy organizers" who are the only people with the time and resources to push GBs through. We'll end up with stagnant designs if it's the same people doing sets all the time. That said, the spacing of group buys sounds like a potentially serious issue. Perhaps SP can be persuaded that staggering buys are in their best interest so that there are more tipped sets.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: neotrinity on Thu, 28 August 2014, 14:53:33
Hey Guys another noob question ...

What will be the size of the space bar in the base set ?

I was reading some forum that the CM Quick Fire XT  has a 6.5 size for the spacebar .. ?

Unless that's a UK specific thing the CM XT should have a standard 6.25x spacebar and that is what is included with the base set. The quickfire TK has an odd size spacebar.

Cool thanks a lot for clarifying it  :thumb: I will be getting the keyboard in a couple of days. I will update on the size..
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 28 August 2014, 20:27:55
... and buy Nuclear Data, because Ron is one of those who overcame that high barrier to entry and ran a very successful group buy with matt3o. :D

Too right ^^^^  :thumb: .

I suppose for the newbs that are thinking about joining in on a Group Buy here, might not know that these two people Sam and Matt3o have run Group Buys in the past and every one finished and delivered to their customers quickly.

Now if I was an absolute newb that just got my account here on Geekhack due to recommendations from other users elsewhere on the net, I couldn't go wrong buying into the Nuclear Set simply because it's run by honest, caring individuals who want everyone to share their love in owning a part of keyboarding history in relation to this designed key-set.

I've never been ripped off by these guys in any way, shape or form so many newbies who are now frequenting Geekhack are frustrated with who to TRUST their money too, relax because this Group Buy is well in hand and thoroughly backed by people I would give my left kidney to if requested by them  ;) .

The BIGGEST hurdle for newcomers is deciding were and what to buy when they visit this place, have no qualms about buying into this key-set because it will go down as the most stylish, retro looking set of keys yet made by PMK  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Fri, 29 August 2014, 03:52:15
... and buy Nuclear Data, because Ron is one of those who overcame that high barrier to entry and ran a very successful group buy with matt3o. :D

Too right ^^^^  :thumb: .

I suppose for the newbs that are thinking about joining in on a Group Buy here, might not know that these two people Sam and Matt3o have run Group Buys in the past and every one finished and delivered to their customers quickly.

Now if I was an absolute newb that just got my account here on Geekhack due to recommendations from other users elsewhere on the net, I couldn't go wrong buying into the Nuclear Set simply because it's run by honest, caring individuals who want everyone to share their love in owning a part of keyboarding history in relation to this designed key-set.

I've never been ripped off by these guys in any way, shape or form so many newbies who are now frequenting Geekhack are frustrated with who to TRUST their money too, relax because this Group Buy is well in hand and thoroughly backed by people I would give my left kidney to if requested by them  ;) .

The BIGGEST hurdle for newcomers is deciding were and what to buy when they visit this place, have no qualms about buying into this key-set because it will go down as the most stylish, retro looking set of keys yet made by PMK  :thumb: .

being a newbie i am re-assured by your comments. Thanks !

Calling out to all people viewing this thread. Please make it tip ASAP  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: neotrinity on Fri, 29 August 2014, 03:53:33
... and buy Nuclear Data, because Ron is one of those who overcame that high barrier to entry and ran a very successful group buy with matt3o. :D

Too right ^^^^  :thumb: .

I suppose for the newbs that are thinking about joining in on a Group Buy here, might not know that these two people Sam and Matt3o have run Group Buys in the past and every one finished and delivered to their customers quickly.

Now if I was an absolute newb that just got my account here on Geekhack due to recommendations from other users elsewhere on the net, I couldn't go wrong buying into the Nuclear Set simply because it's run by honest, caring individuals who want everyone to share their love in owning a part of keyboarding history in relation to this designed key-set.

I've never been ripped off by these guys in any way, shape or form so many newbies who are now frequenting Geekhack are frustrated with who to TRUST their money too, relax because this Group Buy is well in hand and thoroughly backed by people I would give my left kidney to if requested by them  ;) .

The BIGGEST hurdle for newcomers is deciding were and what to buy when they visit this place, have no qualms about buying into this key-set because it will go down as the most stylish, retro looking set of keys yet made by PMK  :thumb: .

being a newbie i am re-assured by your comments. Thanks !

Calling out to all people viewing this thread. Please make it tip ASAP  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: kalrand on Fri, 29 August 2014, 11:34:51
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

I know this probably isn't going to happen, but I'd probably get a set or so of each of these.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 31 August 2014, 02:17:52
Currently 43 Purchased and only require another 7 more to tip.

10 days and 11 hours left for this to happen.  Confident it will happen because all we need is about a person each day to sign up for this special Key-set  8) .

Can't wait for all this Greenie Goodness to start being pumped into SP molds.  Have already allocated 4 keyboards for this momentous design that brings back the wondrous memories of my youth.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Sun, 31 August 2014, 03:08:13
Currently 43 Purchased and only require another 7 more to tip.

10 days and 11 hours left for this to happen.  Confident it will happen because all we need is about a person each day to sign up for this special Key-set  8) .

Can't wait for all this Greenie Goodness to start being pumped into SP molds.  Have already allocated 4 keyboards for this momentous design that brings back the wondrous memories of my youth.

There are always a few people jumping in at the last moment.
I'll promote it on the usual sites, these aren't just an amazingly cool design and color combination, but they're also the only THICK profile from SP :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Sun, 31 August 2014, 05:23:30
Current status

(http://i.imgur.com/sHjif0y.png)

It's slow moving, but it will tip for sure.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Sun, 31 August 2014, 14:28:36
*Gasp* Who ordered the base set without the radioactive kit?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Sun, 31 August 2014, 15:18:20
*Gasp* Who ordered the base set without the radioactive kit?  :eek:

More than one, as I ordered 2 radioactive kits...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:08:05
45 Purchased      |  5 More to Tip

It's getting there, just five more individuals brave enough to own this classic set  8) .  This is the key-set to own when World War 3 officially breaks out.  All you'll have left is this brilliant all green set after your house is melted away in the scorching, radioactive heat.

It will be a warning to human arrogance and stupidity that will last for thousands of years.  You definitely want this key-set as your own personal tombstone placed upon your rotting carcass, what a way to go  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Pliny on Mon, 01 September 2014, 00:40:01
*Gasp* Who ordered the base set without the radioactive kit?  :eek:

Hm, might be me! I ordered 2 base kits and 1 radioactive kit (plus other kits)... It's for a key swap idea I have...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 01 September 2014, 10:35:04
*Gasp* Who ordered the base set without the radioactive kit?  :eek:

Hm, might be me! I ordered 2 base kits and 1 radioactive kit (plus other kits)... It's for a key swap idea I have...

Me too.  Base kits are so cheap that it made sense to buy a spare for things like 40% keyboards or a numpad or a GH36 matrix keypad or two.  Hmmm.  I may need to pick up another base kit.

And so should all of you!  :D

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[edit]
Done.
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Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Mon, 01 September 2014, 11:50:03
*Gasp* Who ordered the base set without the radioactive kit?  :eek:

Hm, might be me! I ordered 2 base kits and 1 radioactive kit (plus other kits)... It's for a key swap idea I have...

Me too.  Base kits are so cheap that it made sense to buy a spare for things like 40% keyboards or a numpad or a GH36 matrix keypad or two.  Hmmm.  I may need to pick up another base kit.

And so should all of you!  :D

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[edit]
Done.
[/edit]

Those 60%s are going to need specialty kits though  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Mon, 01 September 2014, 14:14:51
Those 60%s are going to need specialty kits though  :cool:

Let's just remind everyone if you're thinking of putting these on a GH122, you'll need the winkeyless set.
(please let that set tip....)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Mon, 01 September 2014, 14:49:26
hmmzz, i might need another basekit :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 September 2014, 19:11:53
48 Purchased      |  2 More to Tip

It's nearly there, once it tips these brilliant Green Goodies get made and you'll soon get all these SA sets at rock bottom prices (cheapest one thus far).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Cods on Mon, 01 September 2014, 19:13:31
Me too.  Base kits are so cheap that it made sense to buy a spare for things like 40% keyboards or a numpad or a GH36 matrix keypad or two.  Hmmm.  I may need to pick up another base kit.
And so should all of you!  :D
 - Ron | samwisekoi

I've already committed to ~US$257 worth of this GB, including 2x base sets - I figure I've done my bit!
 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 01 September 2014, 19:34:29
I'm sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone have the sizings of all the keycaps? I'm trying to see if I would be able to put these on the Smallfry/JD40 keyboard, while keeping the profile intact.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Mon, 01 September 2014, 20:32:28
Sizings? I'm not sure if this is what you're asking, but all of the keys are of the same profile(Row 3), so you can put the keys anywhere you want on the board and they will match each other in height
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 01 September 2014, 20:42:58
I've already committed to ~US$257 worth of this GB, including 2x base sets - I figure I've done my bit!
 :thumb:

You've got to put in at least $630AUD into this Group Buy because it will show your true love for this key-set  ;D .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Mon, 01 September 2014, 21:54:24
I've already committed to ~US$257 worth of this GB, including 2x base sets - I figure I've done my bit!
 :thumb:

You've got to put in at least $630AUD into this Group Buy because it will show your true love for this key-set  ;D .
Can I bum a few seeds off your money tree?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 September 2014, 01:28:07
I'm sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone have the sizings of all the keycaps? I'm trying to see if I would be able to put these on the Smallfry/JD40 keyboard, while keeping the profile intact.

There isn't a specific JD40 kit with correct legends, but you can definitely put these on a JD40. You may need to buy some of the extra blank keys in different sizes to fill out the board, but it's doable.

You need 5 1.25x keys (Tab, Ctrl, Shift, ".", "/"), 2 1.75x (Shift, Enter), and the rest are standard 1x sizes. Spacebar is standard 6.25x size.

The specialty kit has the correct 1.75x Shift and Enter keys and there are enough 1.25x and 1x size keys on the main set to cover the board, but with a few incorrect legends. So a base set + specialty kit will do it.

You can get a few blanks for these keys instead if the incorrect legends bother you.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Tue, 02 September 2014, 09:22:15
I'm sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone have the sizings of all the keycaps? I'm trying to see if I would be able to put these on the Smallfry/JD40 keyboard, while keeping the profile intact.

There isn't a specific JD40 kit with correct legends, but you can definitely put these on a JD40. You may need to buy some of the extra blank keys in different sizes to fill out the board, but it's doable.

You need 5 1.25x keys (Tab, Ctrl, Shift, ".", "/"), 2 1.75x (Shift, Enter), and the rest are standard 1x sizes. Spacebar is standard 6.25x size.

The specialty kit has the correct 1.75x Shift and Enter keys and there are enough 1.25x and 1x size keys on the main set to cover the board, but with a few incorrect legends. So a base set + specialty kit will do it.

You can get a few blanks for these keys instead if the incorrect legends bother you.

Thanks for the info, but where would I get them blank?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 02 September 2014, 11:00:07
I'm sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone have the sizings of all the keycaps? I'm trying to see if I would be able to put these on the Smallfry/JD40 keyboard, while keeping the profile intact.

There isn't a specific JD40 kit with correct legends, but you can definitely put these on a JD40. You may need to buy some of the extra blank keys in different sizes to fill out the board, but it's doable.

You need 5 1.25x keys (Tab, Ctrl, Shift, ".", "/"), 2 1.75x (Shift, Enter), and the rest are standard 1x sizes. Spacebar is standard 6.25x size.

The specialty kit has the correct 1.75x Shift and Enter keys and there are enough 1.25x and 1x size keys on the main set to cover the board, but with a few incorrect legends. So a base set + specialty kit will do it.

You can get a few blanks for these keys instead if the incorrect legends bother you.

Thanks for the info, but where would I get them blank?

Just scroll down below the kits and you will find all the blanks.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Tue, 02 September 2014, 11:35:25
Hmm,for some reason, I couldn't find those on mobile. I'll order when I'm at my desktop
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 September 2014, 11:39:29
almost there

(http://i.imgur.com/pheJYKz.png)

also I believe this (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-i-vault-13-sa-row-3-double-shot/) goes pretty well with it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: morpheus on Tue, 02 September 2014, 12:09:26
Before I consider getting this, I wanna know:

1. How does typing on all SA keycaps feel? does it feel a bit awkward as opposed to DSA? Do you type slower or faster?
2. Is this layout compatible with CM Quickfire layout, with 6.25 space?

thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: mashby on Tue, 02 September 2014, 12:25:35
Before I consider getting this, I wanna know:

1. How does typing on all SA keycaps feel? does it feel a bit awkward as opposed to DSA? Do you type slower or faster?
2. Is this layout compatible with CM Quickfire layout, with 6.25 space?

thanks

Feel: SA is thicker than DSA and taller. If you've ever typed on an old computer, say a Commodore 64, it'll feel like that. This is completely subjective, so regardless of my experience, you'd need to try them to see if they're right for you. Some people love them, some people hate them. For the price, I think this is a great set to try and if you don't like them, I'm sure you'll be able to sell them in the classifieds.

CM Quickfire: Yes, the standard kit will give you everything you need for that board.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 02 September 2014, 12:30:13
I need that winkeyless kit :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Tue, 02 September 2014, 12:41:57
I need that winkeyless kit :(

This is the keyset I want to put on my ISO, winkeyless, 126 key battleship, but I need so many child buys to tip that it's quite frustrating.

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 02 September 2014, 13:50:15
Well, I think I just tipped the parent deal.

I thought long and hard about that WKL kit ... but I decided to wimp out and just buy the spacebar, with enough 1.5 blanks probably to be put on my ergodox. I'd love to buy more, like the specialty key set, but I'm going to be in enough trouble with the missus as it is with what I just agreed to buy!

Good luck folks, on the child deals ... there's more than a week left.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Tue, 02 September 2014, 13:55:01
Well, I think I just tipped the parent deal.

I thought long and hard about that WKL kit ... but I decided to wimp out and just buy the spacebar, with enough 1.5 blanks probably to be put on my ergodox. I'd love to buy more, like the specialty key set, but I'm going to be in enough trouble with the missus as it is with what I just agreed to buy!

Good luck folks, on the child deals ... there's more than a week left.


If anything, these child deals on a keyset like this highlight another problem with pimpmykeyboard vs. the old laborious way of doing group buys.

I with there was a way to say "buy the child deal, and if it doesn't tip at the end, I'll just take blanks". But that's not an option, and with the blanks and spacebars for sale, I think more than a few people would rather do the safe option rather than not getting a winkeyless set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 02 September 2014, 14:00:10
The GB organizer has an option with PMK to request that if the parent tips, all child deals automatically tip.  This was done with Midnight DCS.  I don't speak for samwisekoi or Nuclear Data, but I imagine the option is there if we need it.  Maybe he could speak to this possibility for us...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 September 2014, 14:14:31
almost there

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pheJYKz.png)


also I believe this (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-i-vault-13-sa-row-3-double-shot/) goes pretty well with it.

Great! Ordered 5 of those to help try to reach MOQ. I'd love one on my 60% alongside these caps!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: neotrinity on Tue, 02 September 2014, 14:22:09
TIPPED !!!!!!!!      :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Tue, 02 September 2014, 14:25:58
Base set tipped! C'mon ISO!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 02 September 2014, 15:01:30
Before I consider getting this, I wanna know:

1. How does typing on all SA keycaps feel? does it feel a bit awkward as opposed to DSA? Do you type slower or faster?
2. Is this layout compatible with CM Quickfire layout, with 6.25 space?

thanks

Feel: SA is thicker than DSA and taller. If you've ever typed on an old computer, say a Commodore 64, it'll feel like that. This is completely subjective, so regardless of my experience, you'd need to try them to see if they're right for you. Some people love them, some people hate them. For the price, I think this is a great set to try and if you don't like them, I'm sure you'll be able to sell them in the classifieds.

CM Quickfire: Yes, the standard kit will give you everything you need for that board.

Hope that helps!

Based on this feel, and based on my experience of old terminals and the like with similar keys, I say that these would feel heavier, and probably suit stiffer springs, like MX blacks and greens, as well as heavier typists.  I could be wrong.  I hope not :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Tue, 02 September 2014, 15:25:13
Before I consider getting this, I wanna know:

1. How does typing on all SA keycaps feel? does it feel a bit awkward as opposed to DSA? Do you type slower or faster?
2. Is this layout compatible with CM Quickfire layout, with 6.25 space?

thanks

Feel: SA is thicker than DSA and taller. If you've ever typed on an old computer, say a Commodore 64, it'll feel like that. This is completely subjective, so regardless of my experience, you'd need to try them to see if they're right for you. Some people love them, some people hate them. For the price, I think this is a great set to try and if you don't like them, I'm sure you'll be able to sell them in the classifieds.

CM Quickfire: Yes, the standard kit will give you everything you need for that board.

Hope that helps!

Based on this feel, and based on my experience of old terminals and the like with similar keys, I say that these would feel heavier, and probably suit stiffer springs, like MX blacks and greens, as well as heavier typists.  I could be wrong.  I hope not :D

Im a smasher, i have a set of SA, tried them with blues,clears and blacks. Best fit tbh was blues. So greens will probably also be a good alternative, Thats what im going for with da Nuclear set!! :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 02 September 2014, 15:25:38
The GB organizer has an option with PMK to request that if the parent tips, all child deals automatically tip.  This was done with Midnight DCS.  I don't speak for samwisekoi or Nuclear Data, but I imagine the option is there if we need it.  Maybe he could speak to this possibility for us...

I will investigate this.  It certainly was done for Retro DSA and should be done this time as well.

Pricing may be an issue, especially for some of the unique sizes.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 September 2014, 16:47:43
The GB organizer has an option with PMK to request that if the parent tips, all child deals automatically tip.  This was done with Midnight DCS.  I don't speak for samwisekoi or Nuclear Data, but I imagine the option is there if we need it.  Maybe he could speak to this possibility for us...

there's no rules about that. it's on a case by case basis. Midnight ISO didn't tip for example. Some of the kits have zero purchases or just a couple. I doubt they will tip anyway if they don't get more love.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AKmalamute on Tue, 02 September 2014, 17:09:05
So, if everyone who bought a number of 2x OAS (orange) blanks were to double their order ... they wouldn't pay any more. Cost for the job is the same at the 50# tier as for the 30# tiers ... $75 for that segment whether more, or fewer.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 02 September 2014, 17:10:54
Sorry for the delay, ordered at last!

Elrick will be happy ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 02 September 2014, 17:19:53
GROUP BUY UPDATE

Nuclear Data Green has tipped!

In celebration we have added two new low-cost kits, and are taking steps to ensure all the child kits tip as well.

New Kits:

4-key Edit Kit for $2

That is correct.  Two bucks for a custom set of Undo, Cut, Copy, and Paste keycaps in glorious White on Green SA Row 3.  How could you not want these?

(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nuclear-Data-Edit-Kit-140902a-300x161.png)
Nuclear Data Green Edit Kit

12-key Macro Kit for $6

Also very cool for gamers, custom keyboards, keypads, programmable keyboards, Cherry or GH-122 battleships, or even a second top row.  Sadly the legends for F13-F24 did not match F1-F12, so this kit uses M1-M12.

(http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nuclear-Green-Macro-Kit-140902a.png)
Nuclear Data Green Macro Kit

Certain to Tip:

Almost all of the blanks, most of the kits, and even the Dvorak/Colemak Kit will tip with the parent.  For cost reasons, there are a few kits and a couple of blanks that need help to tip.

Need Help to Tip:

Three kits need more orders to tip:

#1 ISO Kit - This kit needs just another two orders to tip.  I'll buy one just for the big Return key.  Who is with me?

#2 Specialty Kit - This kit needs another five orders  to tip.  This is the kit with all of those odd sizes you don't know you need yet, but will when you go to install the Base Kit on a new custom board.  Get a Specialty Kit just in case!

#3 Winkeyless Kit - Amazingly, this kit needs another twelve orders to tip!  I do not understand.  If ever there was a keycap set for a Winkeyless build, this is the one!  I am going to go get another kit just because, but I can't cover a dozen.  Let's go folks!

TL;DR The Base Kit has tipped.  There are two new inexpensive kits, and Specialty and Winkeyless Kits need more love!

FYI,

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 02 September 2014, 19:36:57
Based on this feel, and based on my experience of old terminals and the like with similar keys, I say that these would feel heavier, and probably suit stiffer springs, like MX blacks and greens, as well as heavier typists.  I could be wrong.  I hope not :D

You are not wrong here rowdy, this key-set is for all the Rock-apes out there, that smash their keyboards when they type.  This set isn't for the limp-wristed, nancy boys that are only happy in using 30g or less key-switches.

After all this is based upon the Nuclear Data Keyboards and they were indeed for heavy typists  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 02 September 2014, 22:56:20
Based on this feel, and based on my experience of old terminals and the like with similar keys, I say that these would feel heavier, and probably suit stiffer springs, like MX blacks and greens, as well as heavier typists.  I could be wrong.  I hope not :D

You are not wrong here rowdy, this key-set is for all the Rock-apes out there, that smash their keyboards when they type.  This set isn't for the limp-wristed, nancy boys that are only happy in using 30g or less key-switches.

After all this is based upon the Nuclear Data Keyboards and they were indeed for heavy typists  :thumb: .

I meant I hoped I was not wrong i.e. that these keycaps would go best on switches with stiffer springs.  Mainly because I am a heavy typist, even on those switches.  And the thunk of pressing an MX switch with a heavy, green keycap on it seems oddly attractice ...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 02 September 2014, 23:48:32
And the thunk of pressing an MX switch with a heavy, green keycap on it seems oddly attractice ...

It shall ALWAYS be utterly attractive, no matter what  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: pasph on Wed, 03 September 2014, 09:59:19
Ordered
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: street_jackal on Wed, 03 September 2014, 11:54:44
Does anyone know if the SP 4.5x SA spacebar aligns with the switches/stabilizers on the Pure Pro? I think this http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/649369d22d5e894a8dfe1b30109db39b (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/649369d22d5e894a8dfe1b30109db39b) would look pretty nice, kind of a unintentional TMNT vibe, but it's about the only chance I've seen to get a coordinated-looking set on this keyboard.

Also first post, hello world.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 03 September 2014, 13:10:07
Also first post, hello world.  ;D

Just across the river from me!

And has been pointed out for other users, your first post being about spending money; welcome to wallethack, my friend. Sorry no idea about the pure-pro. I really love the layout but have never seen one in person.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 03 September 2014, 15:17:11
Does anyone know if the SP 4.5x SA spacebar aligns with the switches/stabilizers on the Pure Pro? I think this http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/649369d22d5e894a8dfe1b30109db39b (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/649369d22d5e894a8dfe1b30109db39b) would look pretty nice, kind of a unintentional TMNT vibe, but it's about the only chance I've seen to get a coordinated-looking set on this keyboard.

Also first post, hello world.  ;D

Welcome to Geekhack!

Although ... that question is a little off topic in this thread.  If you don't get a response, try posting again in the keyboard key caps (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=80.0) section, or even posting a quick question in the simple questions, simple answers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.0) thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:31:40
I had to order the new kits.  :)  For 8 bucks you really can't go wrong.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: 0100010 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:58:08
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

1 and 3 for sure.

EDIT : Ha, ordered!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:06:58
I sure hope Winkeyless and Specialty Kit gets through the tipping point because having those two guarantees a 99.5% fitment to nearly every type of Cherry based keyboard that was ever made.

Always buy these two if offered because in the future you never know what you'll purchase because if a rare Cherry board presents itself and you've neglected to get these extras for the Nuclear's then you've got no one to blame for your laziness than yourself.

Just like a good boyscout always make sure you come prepared for what ever you may acquire, in the world of Keyboards  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Wed, 03 September 2014, 20:41:45
I sure hope Winkeyless and Specialty Kit gets through the tipping point because having those two guarantees a 99.5% fitment to nearly every type of Cherry based keyboard that was ever made.
I have that 0.5% :'(
(http://red.dazoe.net/stuff/SS7G.png)
Granted, not looking for new caps for it either.

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 08:06:26
I sure hope Winkeyless and Specialty Kit gets through the tipping point because having those two guarantees a 99.5% fitment to nearly every type of Cherry based keyboard that was ever made.

Always buy these two if offered because in the future you never know what you'll purchase because if a rare Cherry board presents itself and you've neglected to get these extras for the Nuclear's then you've got no one to blame for your laziness than yourself.

Just like a good boyscout always make sure you come prepared for what ever you may acquire, in the world of Keyboards  8) .

Whoa - didn't even notice these were not tipped and I have both in my cart.  Yes - please order these even if you're not sure you need them right away (I do have plans for them).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:28:59
Odd. Trying to pick up the Macro kit and the Edit kit, but when I check out, I'm being sent back to the shopping cart page. I'm not being sent to PayPal to pay for these 2 sets. I wonder if it's because I already made an order from this set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 04 September 2014, 18:43:13
Odd. Trying to pick up the Macro kit and the Edit kit, but when I check out, I'm being sent back to the shopping cart page. I'm not being sent to PayPal to pay for these 2 sets. I wonder if it's because I already made an order from this set.

No; that should not be the case.  Try closing the browser, etc.  Sounds like a session or cookie problem to me.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 04 September 2014, 19:59:26
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is anyone interested in the following optional keycap sets?


1. White on Green M1-M12 for approximately $6/set at MOQ=25 sets?

2, Green Relegendable (includes opaque bottoms and a clear tops) set of 12 bottoms and 12 tops for $12/set at MOQ=25 sets?

3. Four-key White on Green "UNDO", "CUT", "COPY", and "PASTE" set for approximately $2/set at MOQ=25 sets?

Of some combination of the above.

Thanks very much for any and all replies!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Still working on the JD40 kit possibility.

Is there any more news on the JD40 kit?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Pliny on Fri, 05 September 2014, 02:28:36
Odd. Trying to pick up the Macro kit and the Edit kit, but when I check out, I'm being sent back to the shopping cart page. I'm not being sent to PayPal to pay for these 2 sets. I wonder if it's because I already made an order from this set.

Double-check your State fields (2 of em)... it always sets mine back to Alaska (first in its dropdown list)...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Fri, 05 September 2014, 06:33:19
Ok, seems like speciality kit will tip, so I added an order for winkeyless to help the effort.
It might be useful for my future ergodox...

Please help tip winkeyless!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 05 September 2014, 07:05:52
Ok, seems like speciality kit will tip, so I added an order for winkeyless to help the effort.
It might be useful for my future ergodox...

Please help tip winkeyless!  :thumb:

We need more dudes like this that is planning for the future.  Hence getting a TKLess Kit is Mandatory for all TRUE Geekhackers  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - LIVE ON PMK NOW!
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 05 September 2014, 09:11:16
Is there any more news on the JD40 kit?

I could not work out the specific legends every JD40 user would want.  So, sorry, no dedicated JD40 kit.

What you could do is buy blanks to fill the mods/odd positions:

5   1.00x   0.25   1.25
5   1.25x   0.50   2.50
2   1.75x   0.85   1.70

TOTAL: 5.45

So for $5.45 you end up with blanks for all odd positions and the base kit will provide everything else.

Just my vote.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 05 September 2014, 17:14:38
Odd. Trying to pick up the Macro kit and the Edit kit, but when I check out, I'm being sent back to the shopping cart page. I'm not being sent to PayPal to pay for these 2 sets. I wonder if it's because I already made an order from this set.

Double-check your State fields (2 of em)... it always sets mine back to Alaska (first in its dropdown list)...

Ah ha! That was it! Sadly, the state field isn't marked as necessary, even.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Fri, 05 September 2014, 17:59:44
I have almost all the kits and 2 sets of orange blanks and I still don't have a keyboard I want to put them on.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 05 September 2014, 19:37:24
I just bought the 25th Specialty Kit to tip it.  Looks like SP tipped ISO themselves, so all that is left is Winkeyless.

And Winkeyless is the way to roll with these keycaps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 06 September 2014, 04:17:05
And Winkeyless is the way to roll with these keycaps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Yes listen to this man, you can't let this Keyset head into SP molds without the Winkeyless Set it would be so disgusting and ignorant.  We here are not your average key-set collectors only looking at furnishing our Filcos, Ducky's and second-hand G80-3000 series keyboards, WE are the HARD-CORE, addicted individuals that eat, sleep and dream about our keyboards.

Hence this last great Winkeyless Set MUST go through because for a Group Buy to be truly successful it MUST have the order numbers to show the world that we are not Windows-Addicted Morons only worshiping ONE software company above everything else on this planet.

Show your independence from Gatesie's Monstrosity and buy one kit, if not for yourself then for your own soul when the time comes to depart this mortal life.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: lewi on Sat, 06 September 2014, 06:07:32
hello.
i'm so interested in this groupbuy.
i have a question about this keycap's color.

this keycap's color is same with (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640)<- picture of this page's classic one?
or that of your profile picture?

actually, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640 <- this one is so good to me
but, your picture's color is, i think it's so bright to me.

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 06 September 2014, 07:11:02
the color is brighter than that picture
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Sat, 06 September 2014, 14:31:12
And Winkeyless is the way to roll with these keycaps!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Yes listen to this man, you can't let this Keyset head into SP molds without the Winkeyless Set it would be so disgusting and ignorant.  We here are not your average key-set collectors only looking at furnishing our Filcos, Ducky's and second-hand G80-3000 series keyboards, WE are the HARD-CORE, addicted individuals that eat, sleep and dream about our keyboards.

Hence this last great Winkeyless Set MUST go through because for a Group Buy to be truly successful it MUST have the order numbers to show the world that we are not Windows-Addicted Morons only worshiping ONE software company above everything else on this planet.

Show your independence from Gatesie's Monstrosity and buy one kit, if not for yourself then for your own soul when the time comes to depart this mortal life.

Wow, dude.

To call you a Keyboard Evangelist would be putting it mildly.  You got the sickness.   :))
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Sat, 06 September 2014, 22:32:29
3 days, 5 more to tip winkeyless!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Sun, 07 September 2014, 13:50:28
That winkeyless really needs to tip :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Sun, 07 September 2014, 14:58:26
Down to 4 now, ordered one more to help.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 07 September 2014, 15:37:26
Added a WinKeyLess to my order.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 07 September 2014, 19:31:26
Down to 4 now, ordered one more to help.

This is it, a MAN that stands up to set the standard here so that we can get these sets made  :thumb: .


Added a WinKeyLess to my order.

Another fine upstanding individual willing to put his money were his mouth is, proud of you pal  :thumb: :thumb: .

This is what makes Geekhack such a unique place here on the internet.  When help is required you'll get those that will respond immediately by getting involved.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Mon, 08 September 2014, 02:19:21
im out of money :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Mon, 08 September 2014, 03:03:21
double post
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Mon, 08 September 2014, 03:04:28

Another fine upstanding individual willing to put his money were his mouth is, proud of you pal  :thumb: :thumb: .

This is what makes Geekhack such a unique place here on the internet.  When help is required you'll get those that will respond immediately by getting involved.


Only one left for winkeyless to tip.
If no one else gets it by the end of the GB I will tip it.
That said, I don't really need a second WKL, if I get it I'll probably do something stupid like getting one more of all kits.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bullveyr on Mon, 08 September 2014, 07:24:47
Sorry that it took me so long to finally put my order down, that also means that winkeyless just tipped.
Hopefully we'll see some more orders so that nobody has to keep his second winkeyless kit just for tipping it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 08 September 2014, 07:58:38
Sorry that it took me so long to finally put my order down, that also means that winkeyless just tipped.
Hopefully we'll see some more orders so that nobody has to keep his second winkeyless kit just for tipping it.

Awesome! All the most important kits have tipped now, can't wait for these to enter production :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 08 September 2014, 14:32:46
I thought I would share my excitement. I have finally have tickets to Tippytown!

My GB for Fallout (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-i-vault-13-sa-row-3-double-shot/) tipped!

Woot!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: mashby on Mon, 08 September 2014, 17:25:48
I thought I would share my excitement. I have finally have tickets to Tippytown!

My GB for Fallout (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-i-vault-13-sa-row-3-double-shot/) tipped!

Woot!

Nicely done sir!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Mon, 08 September 2014, 17:27:08
I thought I would share my excitement. I have finally have tickets to Tippytown!

My GB for Fallout (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-i-vault-13-sa-row-3-double-shot/) tipped!

Woot!

I'll get some of these tomorrow, let's hit 150  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Heliosphere on Mon, 08 September 2014, 17:52:07
Finally bought in and helped us tip over 75 :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 08 September 2014, 19:58:49
Finally bought in and helped us tip over 75 :D

Brilliant, good to see nearly everything has been tipped HENCE this baby goes to the molds for making  :D .

This is a dream that has finally come true, hoping to get these before Nato decides to bomb Moscow in the next few months.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 09 September 2014, 16:39:39
I thought I would share my excitement. I have finally have tickets to Tippytown!

My GB for Fallout (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-i-vault-13-sa-row-3-double-shot/) tipped!

Woot!

I'll get some of these tomorrow, let's hit 150  :thumb:

Current number is 128...22 to hit 150...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 10 September 2014, 01:45:37
Can't wait to see production samples of this set.

Oboy, think I'm going to have to wait for SA Retro as my next set... Wallet is pooped, but awesome keycaps will be coming my way!

Happy with my GH GB set orders so far: Cherry Legend Replicas, Nostalgia, Ivan's black PBT, GMK Dolch and now this. It's time to put together some new boards to hold them all (I have a couple of NerD60 PCB's on order)  ;)  These may well end up on Ghost Black switches. There seem to have been a lot of old terminal boards with tall profile caps and linear switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 10 September 2014, 01:53:30
Can't wait to see production samples of this set.

Oboy, think I'm going to have to wait for SA Retro as my next set... Wallet is pooped, but awesome keycaps will be coming my way!

Yep, a lot of brilliant SA's shall be coming our way soon.  Can't wait for them to start showing up  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Wed, 10 September 2014, 06:09:20
Just purchased 5 kits including the base. Thanks for this awesome caps mate :P
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: bianco on Wed, 10 September 2014, 06:31:41
got in on this!
base set plus the kits (radioactive, wkl, and specialty).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 10 September 2014, 07:08:50
Yeah, I cracked.

Three incoming SA sets. I hope I end up liking SA profile!

I'm going to tell my wife how thoughtful she was later this afternoon.

These will look great on my G80-2100HDU - no Big Ass Enter, but it should still look like it belongs in a missile silo.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 10 September 2014, 07:54:36
Heh... here come all the last second buyers.  Where have you guys been?   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 10 September 2014, 08:52:16
Heh... here come all the last second buyers.  Where have you guys been?   :cool:

Standing on the sidelines...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 10 September 2014, 11:26:46
Two hours left to hit the next tier, and the donate-to-GH level.

Can't spare $63 meself, but I'm bumping to remind folks who can, and are on the fence still.

Edit: one hour, and six copies left.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Wed, 10 September 2014, 11:34:34
Two hours left to hit the next tier, and the donate-to-GH level.

Can't spare $63 meself, but I'm bumping to remind folks who can, and are on the fence still.

If we can organize a last run on the GB to tip it past 100 I'm willing to get another set.
I don't really need it though, and reselling is hard from norway since postage is insane here, so I can't just go for it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 10 September 2014, 11:35:39
These GBs on PMK should have end dates that are on pay days. :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Wed, 10 September 2014, 13:18:07
Blank ISO Enter key still needs one more to tip.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 10 September 2014, 20:13:00
These GBs on PMK should have end dates that are on pay days. :(

I would like to know what are the popular pay-day payments for people here on Geekhack?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 10 September 2014, 20:44:11
These GBs on PMK should have end dates that are on pay days. :(

I would like to know what are the popular pay-day payments for people here on Geekhack?

I would guess that end of month/beginning of month are pretty common paydays, plus mid-month (15th), for people paid twice a month.  Then you've got paid-every-two-weeks-on-Friday, which is a lot harder to track.

I would suggest GB end dates should always be on Fridays, that covers the majority of payday cycles.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 10 September 2014, 21:22:28
I would suggest GB end dates should always be on Fridays, that covers the majority of payday cycles.

Then shouldn't this be raised with Melissa about when end and start dates for future Group Buys be held?  Remember they're only a company hence they have no idea about people's pay days whatsoever or if they are even interested in changing the current regime.

Like to see if SP (aka PMK) decides to bend to our payment discretion concerning end dates, for future Group Buys  ;) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 10 September 2014, 21:56:29
Really wish PMK would add a column in purchase history to show final price charged per kit.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 10 September 2014, 22:01:46
Really wish PMK would add a column in purchase history to show final price charged per kit.

Yeah currently you only get the FINAL total when it comes through Paypal and removed from that account.  Then you finally see what you're actually paying  ::) .

Actually paid today in the morning, when Paypal notified me of the amount taken out via - email.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 10 September 2014, 22:30:20
I haven't seen any emails from PMK or PayPal I just saw it when checking PayPal manually.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 11 September 2014, 09:03:13
So... Now we wait 4-6 weeks. Which should mean anywhere from October 8th to October 22nd?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 11 September 2014, 09:43:46
So... Now we wait 4-6 weeks. Which should mean anywhere from October 8th to October 22nd?

More like 6 to 8 weeks if the last few GBs are any indication.  SP just took a massive order for Granite R2 and it's probably ahead of us in the production schedule.  Midnight DCS took over 2 months from start to delivery, and it was a comparatively small run.  Prepare for November and hope for earlier.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 11 September 2014, 14:11:14
My invoice arrived, but it doesn't have the WinKeyLess set on that I ordered after the other kits. Have others who ordered "in parts" also received invoices for just the first group of kits? Should I just pay the first invoice and expect a later one for the other kit?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 September 2014, 14:26:23
My invoice arrived, but it doesn't have the WinKeyLess set on that I ordered after the other kits. Have others who ordered "in parts" also received invoices for just the first group of kits? Should I just pay the first invoice and expect a later one for the other kit?

This happened to me as well, and I'm not sure the answer to your question.  :|  I do know that mine said they re-invoiced because the hold on my paypal had expired.  So perhaps the hold I placed for the first order expired, while the more recent purchases did not?  I'm not entirely sure what's going on there.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 11 September 2014, 14:42:24
It's pretty strange. It has the updated prices in it ($64 for the base kit for example), so it would seem to be an invoice for the actual thing, but I would have thought they'd combine the payments. Actually I made 3 orders (main order of base + a few kits, then some orange caps, then the WinKeyLess). Perhaps I can expect 3 invoices.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 11 September 2014, 15:13:15
So... Now we wait 4-6 weeks. Which should mean anywhere from October 8th to October 22nd?

More like 6 to 8 weeks if the last few GBs are any indication.  SP just took a massive order for Granite R2 and it's probably ahead of us in the production schedule.  Midnight DCS took over 2 months from start to delivery, and it was a comparatively small run.  Prepare for November and hope for earlier.


Granite R2 is still DSA?  These are SA - different equipment.  Provided PMK have enough people to run the equipment, there shouldn't be that much of a clash!

Oh, then add another 3 weeks or so for packages to reach Australia :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 11 September 2014, 15:15:14
It's pretty strange. It has the updated prices in it ($64 for the base kit for example), so it would seem to be an invoice for the actual thing, but I would have thought they'd combine the payments. Actually I made 3 orders (main order of base + a few kits, then some orange caps, then the WinKeyLess). Perhaps I can expect 3 invoices.
I got a second invoice for my winkeyless kit almost right after I got my other invoice just so you know.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 11 September 2014, 15:31:47
So... Now we wait 4-6 weeks. Which should mean anywhere from October 8th to October 22nd?

More like 6 to 8 weeks if the last few GBs are any indication.  SP just took a massive order for Granite R2 and it's probably ahead of us in the production schedule.  Midnight DCS took over 2 months from start to delivery, and it was a comparatively small run.  Prepare for November and hope for earlier.


Granite R2 is still DSA?  These are SA - different equipment.  Provided PMK have enough people to run the equipment, there shouldn't be that much of a clash!

Oh, then add another 3 weeks or so for packages to reach Australia :rolleyes:

They could use the different molds on the same injection machines.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: mashby on Thu, 11 September 2014, 15:42:47
I received one invoice, but it was complete and accurate and it's now paid.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 11 September 2014, 19:33:03
My invoice arrived, but it doesn't have the WinKeyLess set on that I ordered after the other kits. Have others who ordered "in parts" also received invoices for just the first group of kits? Should I just pay the first invoice and expect a later one for the other kit?

Same here.  My invoice was missing the orange blanks and Macro kit that I purchased later.  I put a note in my PalPal payment for it.  I'm fairly confident Melissa will catch it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 11 September 2014, 20:06:52
My invoice arrived, but it doesn't have the WinKeyLess set on that I ordered after the other kits. Have others who ordered "in parts" also received invoices for just the first group of kits? Should I just pay the first invoice and expect a later one for the other kit?

I have paid for everything the first time it was ordered and the money supplied yet SP didn't email the amount of items bought in each section of this Group Buy BUT they got the total amount of payment correct.  Hence you have to trust them to make the appropriate amount of key-caps for you.

Never been gypped by them before like receiving less amounts of caps than what you paid for.  Overall they've been really honest and decent about the whole process despite my craggy and stupid, old coffin-dodger behaviour.

When dealing with manufacturers these guys Signature Plastics, really do provide an excellent customer service focus compared to any other world-wide.  I know we keep kicking them for every little cause and bullsh1t disturbance in the force (my fault) but really, they have done good in delivering what we've originally paid for - every time :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 12 September 2014, 00:46:01
Thanks for the replies, guys. Well I paid the invoice and here's hoping it all goes smoothly :)

I'm now waiting for items from 7 GB's.....!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 12 September 2014, 03:21:08
I'm now waiting for items from 7 GB's.....!

YES, same here............isn't Geekhack marvelous  ;) ......
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Fri, 12 September 2014, 03:59:21
Thanks for the replies, guys. Well I paid the invoice and here's hoping it all goes smoothly :)

I'm now waiting for items from 7 GB's.....!

Same.
I'm hoping that will keep me satisfied for a while.
That X-Wing set looks tempting though... :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 12 September 2014, 17:26:39
So many group buys to wait on :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 12 September 2014, 18:13:44
Ah boy, I thought this money had been taken out already.

Well, there goes my backup money for this month.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 13 September 2014, 09:16:45
Ah boy, I thought this money had been taken out already.

Well, there goes my backup money for this month.

I think it has been taken out already. In fact, the reason the GB ended so abruptly was that PayPal will hold funds for exactly 30 days and no more.

However, I am thankfully not interacting with PayPal on this one, so YMMV.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 13 September 2014, 18:13:38
Yeah, I just got a buzz on my phone saying the money was taken out, so no invoice, just money gone.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 13 September 2014, 19:17:04
However, I am thankfully not interacting with PayPal on this one, so YMMV.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Smart man here, let someone else cope with them  :thumb: .  I'm not fussed about the money disappearing from my account 2 days ago because I know the exact amount went to Melissa's Company, hence all is good.

Have of course received an invoice confirming the take out, so no dubious surprises for me in this instance.  Very happy how quick everything went with the Group Order and payment, now comes the waiting for the caps to be produced and being shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: mashby on Sat, 13 September 2014, 23:23:27
The original hold was released before the new invoice was received. At least that's how it was for me. Everything was clear and above board.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 14 September 2014, 23:05:08
So this is my first GB. (750 posts, a year on the forums, I know it's been too long!) How long do these things take to ship out?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Mon, 15 September 2014, 01:22:17
So this is my first GB. (750 posts, a year on the forums, I know it's been too long!) How long do these things take to ship out?

4-5 weeks usually
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 18 September 2014, 20:40:13
Quote from: Melissa
Thank you for making yet another group buy a success!! We are in the process of sorting out payments and readying the work orders for production on the Nuclear Group Buy. Right now production is extremely busy and we are hoping to have this group buy complete and ready to ship in 6 weeks (around the 26th of October). If they are done sooner we will definitely ship sooner! You won't hear any further updates from me on this group buy until we start shipping - at that time you will see tracking numbers from stamps.com.

As a side note, while we didn't reach our target of 100 sets for donating to Geek Hack, we are still going to go ahead and send the donation in - so thank you for helping make this possible!!

This just showed up in my inbox. It's impressive that they're still donating to GH even though we where 3% shy of the goal.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:11:54
This just showed up in my inbox. It's impressive that they're still donating to GH even though we where 3% shy of the goal.

Since the BULK of orders happened via Geekhack they (SP) should always donate to this place since WE are the ones buying a large volume of their PMK styled Caps  :thumb: .

Far better to make the donation here because Mkawa needs it to keep this place running, and that's fair in anyone's language  8) .  So far Signature Plastics has come to the party and done great things for us in the key-cap addiction stakes, plus made themselves extremely busy when the bulk of US manufacturing has taken a dive (just like here in Convict Town).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:18:28
So... Now we wait 4-6 weeks. Which should mean anywhere from October 8th to October 22nd?

More like 6 to 8 weeks if the last few GBs are any indication.  SP just took a massive order for Granite R2 and it's probably ahead of us in the production schedule.  Midnight DCS took over 2 months from start to delivery, and it was a comparatively small run.  Prepare for November and hope for earlier.

Quote from: Melissa Petersen
Thank you for making yet another group buy a success!! We are in the process of sorting out payments and readying the work orders for production on the Nuclear Group Buy. Right now production is extremely busy and we are hoping to have this group buy complete and ready to ship in 6 weeks (around the 26th of October). If they are done sooner we will definitely ship sooner! You won't hear any further updates from me on this group buy until we start shipping - at that time you will see tracking numbers from stamps.com.
As a side note, while we didn't reach our target of 100 sets for donating to Geek Hack, we are still going to go ahead and send the donation in - so thank you for helping make this possible!!

Melissa Petersen
Signature Plastics LLC

I called it.  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 18 September 2014, 21:35:44
I really hope it arrives before my JD40 does; nothing would suck more than a keyboard without real nice keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:59:08
I really hope it arrives before my JD40 does; nothing would suck more than a keyboard without real nice keycaps.

Keycaps in a bag with no board to put them on sucks pretty hard though.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 06:41:09
That's true, but the JD40 without keycaps would be worse. ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Fri, 19 September 2014, 07:49:53
That's true, but the JD40 without keycaps would be worse. ;D

it sounds like you my friend, does not have enough keycap sets!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Fri, 19 September 2014, 09:01:49
That's true, but the JD40 without keycaps would be worse. ;D

it sounds like you my friend, does not have enough keycap sets!
For real.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Fri, 19 September 2014, 15:55:23
The Rad Hard group buy is live http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62913.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62913.0)

Rad Hard is a black on bright yellow add on for the Nuclear Data Green sets.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 19 September 2014, 21:08:22
The Rad Hard group buy is live http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62913.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62913.0)

Rad Hard is a black on bright yellow add on for the Nuclear Data Green sets.

Thanks for the notification already.  Have already placed orders on these because I want complete keyboard satisfaction when I fill out my keyboards with the LAST ever set devised for human-kind  ;) .

Just like a Doomsday Prepper, looking forward to the END of the World  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 25 September 2014, 13:29:56
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Just when you thought it was safe to come out!  Details to follow, but I am launching a three-week Group Buy for re-legendable keycaps to match Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3.

For those of you who wanted relegendables to go with your Nuclear Data Green SA keycaps, this is the mini group-buy for you.  Only three weeks until it closes, so get those orders in ASAP.  1x and 2x, Green or Orange to match Nuclear Data Green.

Green (VV) 1x

Green (VV) 2x wide

Orange (OAS) 1x

Orange (OAS) 2x wide


All with a clear cap with a glossy finish.

[attachimg=1]
SA Row 3 Profile Re-Legenadable Keycap and Cover.

More details to follow.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 25 September 2014, 13:32:43
You really don't want me to have any money left at all, do you Ron?   :))
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 25 September 2014, 13:36:45
We should ban him for putting out products that makes us take out our wallets and cry if we don't  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Fri, 26 September 2014, 13:30:23
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Inspired by the GH122?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 26 September 2014, 16:28:43
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Inspired by the GH122?  ;D

Yup.  Needed in fact!

Also very helpful for the GH36.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:24:56
So not only do I now have to consider the relegendables, but also the GH122. *sigh*
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Fri, 26 September 2014, 23:35:06
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Is there any possibility of getting 1.5u relegendables as well? That would be absolutely awesome for an ErgoDox.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Sat, 27 September 2014, 00:31:22
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Is there any possibility of getting 1.5u relegendables as well? That would be absolutely awesome for an ErgoDox.

I would be interested in this as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 27 September 2014, 11:28:09
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Is there any possibility of getting 1.5u relegendables as well? That would be absolutely awesome for an ErgoDox.

I would be interested in this as well.  :thumb:

Sorry, only 1x and 2x are available.  :(

So not only do I now have to consider the relegendables, but also the GH122. *sigh*

Welcome to WalletHack!  :D

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Sat, 27 September 2014, 13:17:26
Quick Group Buy: Matching Re-Lengendables

Is there any possibility of getting 1.5u relegendables as well? That would be absolutely awesome for an ErgoDox.

I would be interested in this as well.  :thumb:

Sorry, only 1x and 2x are available.  :(


Doh. Ah well, I'm still in for a bunch of the 1u and some 2u relegendables. :) Bring on the GH122!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Wed, 01 October 2014, 19:56:57
The relegendable GB hasn't started yet has it?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 01 October 2014, 21:48:22
Re-Legendables are up!  Go buy them in beautiful green or orange!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 02 October 2014, 01:25:53
Re-Legendables are up!  Go buy them in beautiful green or orange!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Awesome!

Are there any pictures of what relegendable SA caps look like? I actually don't think I've ever seen one in that profile.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 02 October 2014, 01:35:32
Re-Legendables are up!  Go buy them in beautiful green or orange!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Awesome!

Are there any pictures of what relegendable SA caps look like? I actually don't think I've ever seen one in that profile.

Very interested in this as well.... If they look anything like these I will order a gajillion of them!

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqV,!l0E3ICZqqbiBOETjNyyY!~~_3.JPG)

Maybe someone has received some in an SP crapbag? I'd love to see what these look like before ordering.

... could this be an SA relegendable cover? (bottom item in image)

(http://i.imgur.com/cPKMrqN.jpg)

As you can tell, I'm quite interested in these...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 02 October 2014, 12:26:39
Ok, so I tipped the 1x Green to $3 each with my order.  I imagine we will have no problem getting these to 250/$1 each.

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/nuclear-data-green-re-legendable-sa-row-3-keycaps/

I will ask for photos and post them if I get them.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Thu, 02 October 2014, 12:38:56
Did my part.  :'(
Nuclear Data Green Re-Legendable SA Row 3 Keycaps      36
Nuclear Data Green 2x Re-Legendable SA Row 3 Keycaps    1
Nuclear Data ORANGE 2x Re-Legendable SA Row 3 Keycaps   2
Nuclear Data ORANGE Re-Legendable SA Row 3 Keycaps      1
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:43:00
Ordered...that much closer to the 250 mark. Now to work on some color accurate legend printing.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Thu, 02 October 2014, 17:25:19
Ordered...that much closer to the 250 mark. Now to work on some color accurate legend printing.

I'm on the fence if I want to go for something that's neat and color accurate or if I want to go really old school and go for labels that were typed with a typewriter on index card stock and hand-cut crookedly with scissors.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Thu, 02 October 2014, 18:06:00
I'm on the fence if I want to go for something that's neat and color accurate or if I want to go really old school and go for labels that were typed with a typewriter on index card stock and hand-cut crookedly with scissors.

That could look amazing on the right board.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Thu, 02 October 2014, 18:26:53
My mother has a ScanNCut so I think I will drop by give that a shot. I'm thinking white vinal or felt legends, wait a second I can make a plaid key.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 02 October 2014, 21:53:45
Know the MOQ for some windowed blanks or pad printed 1x keys?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ccc24 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:16:40
When does SP plan to start shipping out orders?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Fri, 03 October 2014, 18:25:40
When does SP plan to start shipping out orders?
You no get this?
(http://red.dazoe.net/stuff/2014-10-03_18-24-36.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:28:23
I didn't get that either...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ccc24 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 04:17:58
nope, didn't get it. I did get another invoice though saying my previous ticket has expired. But thanks for that.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 06 October 2014, 00:57:44
You really don't want me to have any money left at all, do you Ron?   :))

I concur.... Just ordered 30 Green and 10 Orange relegendables. I was going to wait to see samples, but decided to just go for it. I know they're going to look great.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 06 October 2014, 10:37:37
Quote
October 6, 2014 at 6:06 am   

So, one thing. Am I right in thinking these (once assembled) share the exact same physical dimensions as the normal SA keycaps?

You are correct!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Mon, 06 October 2014, 10:51:17
I'd be interested in knowing how the top part covers the bottom part of the relegendable.

On some images the top part only covers a little of the bottom part, but others show the top covering the whole bottom cap.

The latter looks very nice, while the only partial cover versions are a bit meh.

Anyone know what type this is?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 06 October 2014, 11:20:44
I'd be interested in knowing how the top part covers the bottom part of the relegendable.

On some images the top part only covers a little of the bottom part, but others show the top covering the whole bottom cap.

The latter looks very nice, while the only partial cover versions are a bit meh.

Anyone know what type this is?

Pictures attached.  Full top cover is clear.  This one has a gray base.  2x is just longer.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Mon, 06 October 2014, 12:33:27
I'd be interested in knowing how the top part covers the bottom part of the relegendable.

On some images the top part only covers a little of the bottom part, but others show the top covering the whole bottom cap.

The latter looks very nice, while the only partial cover versions are a bit meh.

Anyone know what type this is?

Pictures attached.  Full top cover is clear.  This one has a gray base.  2x is just longer.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Yeah, I'll have to get these.  :thumb:
If only the 2.0x and orange caps were more popular we'd get decent prices. $6 is a steep for a single cap...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 06 October 2014, 12:49:42
I'd be interested in knowing how the top part covers the bottom part of the relegendable.

On some images the top part only covers a little of the bottom part, but others show the top covering the whole bottom cap.

The latter looks very nice, while the only partial cover versions are a bit meh.

Anyone know what type this is?

Pictures attached.  Full top cover is clear.  This one has a gray base.  2x is just longer.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

I was right! Those look great! I may have to add a few to my order....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 06 October 2014, 12:56:38
Correct photo uploaded.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Mon, 06 October 2014, 13:29:55
Crap ordered more 1x Orange. I hate you...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Mon, 06 October 2014, 15:45:37
Whoa, those look great. Time to back up the truck!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Tarzan on Tue, 07 October 2014, 12:23:31
I don't know if this was discussed on a different thread, but is there still interest in Row1/Row2 number row/function row addon kits for this set?  Perhaps even Row4 modifiers? 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 09 October 2014, 03:05:23
Ordered more orange 1x relegendables... really hope they tip. Just 6 more needed.

I have ordered ALL the GB items related to this set. So many options.  :eek:  :thumb:

I'm going to have Green, Orange, Blue (Vault 13 cap), Yellow and Red caps on my board including some relegendables. Quite rare and unique it will be. It may look gaudy, but it'll fit the theme well.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Thu, 09 October 2014, 03:16:30
Ordered more orange 1x relegendables... really hope they tip. Just 6 more needed.

I have ordered ALL the GB items related to this set. So many options.  :eek:  :thumb:

I'm going to have Green, Orange, Blue (Vault 13 cap), Yellow and Red caps on my board including some relegendables. Quite rare and unique it will be. It may look gaudy, but it'll fit the theme well.

I have all this as well, I'm afraid most of the non-green caps will have to stay in their bags, or my board will look like a unicorn.

The 1x orange relegendables are sure to tip, will help out by getting some later, 1x green will probably hit 250 and reach the $1 tier :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: mashby on Thu, 09 October 2014, 15:52:00
Ordered more orange 1x relegendables... really hope they tip. Just 6 more needed.

I have ordered ALL the GB items related to this set. So many options.  :eek:  :thumb:

I'm going to have Green, Orange, Blue (Vault 13 cap), Yellow and Red caps on my board including some relegendables. Quite rare and unique it will be. It may look gaudy, but it'll fit the theme well.

I ordered 6 orange relegendables and a few green ones too.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Thu, 23 October 2014, 09:52:20
is this estimated to ship before or after Granite? Any1 got a estimated date?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Thu, 23 October 2014, 15:29:08
is this estimated to ship before or after Granite? Any1 got a estimated date?

According to the status email a while back

Quote
Thank you for making yet another group buy a success!! We are in the process of sorting out payments and readying the work orders for production on the Nuclear Group Buy. Right now production is extremely busy and we are hoping to have this group buy complete and ready to ship in 6 weeks (around the 26th of October). If they are done sooner we will definitely ship sooner! You won't hear any further updates from me on this group buy until we start shipping - at that time you will see tracking numbers from stamps.com.
As a side note, while we didn't reach our target of 100 sets for donating to Geek Hack, we are still going to go ahead and send the donation in - so thank you for helping make this possible!!

I am taking from that email that Nuclear will ship before Granite. MassDrop Granite R2 was not scheduled to ship until second week of November and with Massdrop's on-time record and the fact Massdrop in the discussion page already said there will be a considerable delay due to the dye sublimation process and the fact the participation well exceeded Massdrop's expectation, i doubt Granite will ship until much later (December?), just my prediction I could be wrong.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:35:23
Hoping Nuclear Data ships by month's end and Pulse follows around end of November.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:18:22
[attachimg=1]

Looks like they are on their way.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:28:31
Huh, I didn't seem to have gotten an email...  :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:31:48
(Attachment Link)

Looks like they are on their way.

How big of an order did you have?  My order was pretty big however so it wouldn't surprise me if it took longer.

I don't remember getting any emails on the nuclear green set, seems like some SP buys the emails don't go out to everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 27 October 2014, 20:33:55
I got the original email, and all I ordered were the base set and two blanks. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as a small order.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 27 October 2014, 21:42:09
I know that at least my Vault 13 keycaps will be shipping to me, so I assume all Vault 13 will be going out to erbody...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 28 October 2014, 05:24:20
I got a shipping notification, too, but I have so many keycaps and sets on order with SP that I have no idea which ones it's for  :eek:

At least I know something is on it's way to me :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Tue, 28 October 2014, 05:32:20
I got a shipping notification, too, but I have so many keycaps and sets on order with SP that I have no idea which ones it's for  :eek:

At least I know something is on it's way to me :)

i got nothing. yet. And i didnt order the vault key. Maybe its the vault key ? :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 28 October 2014, 08:02:25
I ordered Vault key, no shipping notice yet.

Not sure what it might be.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 October 2014, 08:10:43
I just got a random stamps.com email that said it was from Customer Service.....assuming this is something from SP, don't know what else I would be getting from stamps.com.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 28 October 2014, 08:32:37
(http://i.imgur.com/2lOuSE4.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Tue, 28 October 2014, 09:06:04
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2lOuSE4.gif)


It's confirmed?
I'm still somewhat worried it might be the Vault key.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Tue, 28 October 2014, 09:19:40
i wont see it for a while as im located in sweden :) Promise pictures when arrived us ppl
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:42:12
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2lOuSE4.gif)


It's confirmed?
I'm still somewhat worried it might be the Vault key.
Got a shipping notice for something.

It's either Nuclear Data or the Vault 13 key.  Either way, I'm pleased. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: soymic on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:12:40
It is the Out of the Vault SA Row 3 Double Shot key.
PMK Customer Service


Reply from PMK
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:17:56
Thanks soy.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:29:25
I am still cheesin' that I had one design to actually tip, and tip hard!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Wed, 29 October 2014, 03:37:58
I am still cheesin' that I had one design to actually tip, and tip hard!  ;D

Looking forward to the Vault key!
I think I ordered at least 5 of them, but I don't have a SA set to put it on until Nuclear arrives  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 29 October 2014, 09:06:51
I am still cheesin' that I had one design to actually tip, and tip hard!  ;D

Looking forward to the Vault key!
I think I ordered at least 5 of them, but I don't have a SA set to put it on until Nuclear arrives  :eek:

Mine is going on esc and full F row. Maybe keychain action...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 29 October 2014, 09:08:02
I am still cheesin' that I had one design to actually tip, and tip hard!  ;D

Looking forward to the Vault key!
I think I ordered at least 5 of them, but I don't have a SA set to put it on until Nuclear arrives  :eek:

Mine is going on esc and full F row. Maybe keychain action...

I shoulda snagged some of the Nuclear Data... :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: neotrinity on Thu, 30 October 2014, 13:42:11
 ;D ;D ;D ;D   Yeah !!! I got the mail from signature plastics with the tracking number ... awwwsome !!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Thu, 30 October 2014, 16:21:44
WOOP i got the mail!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 30 October 2014, 17:53:58
Thanks to those who got one of the Vault 13 keycaps. Check it out!:

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 30 October 2014, 20:16:37
WOOP i got the mail!

And the mail is for the vault key, correct?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Fri, 31 October 2014, 02:09:21
Nope :) didnt order vault.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Fri, 31 October 2014, 04:09:19
Nope :) didnt order vault.

I have 2 incoming packages from SP, and unless Granite Extras skipped ahead of Nuclear, it should be Vault and Nuclear.
  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 31 October 2014, 04:22:38
Yippee! Second notification from Stamps, means Nuclear is shipping out!

I just put a Penumbra set on my 60% and it's true what Elrick the SA evangelist says... SA profile is insanely nice. So glad I ordered this set (and all the extras) now.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Fri, 31 October 2014, 05:26:18
Yippee! Second notification from Stamps, means Nuclear is shipping out!

I just put a Penumbra set on my 60% and it's true what Elrick the SA evangelist says... SA profile is insanely nice. So glad I ordered this set (and all the extras) now.

Same same, happy panda :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 31 October 2014, 06:25:38
Really weird, I haven't gotten an email yet.  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Fri, 31 October 2014, 10:43:48
Yippee! Second notification from Stamps, means Nuclear is shipping out!

I just put a Penumbra set on my 60% and it's true what Elrick the SA evangelist says... SA profile is insanely nice. So glad I ordered this set (and all the extras) now.


Is that what the email from Stamps.com is..... I had no clue what on earth I could have ordered until I read this.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Heliosphere on Fri, 31 October 2014, 16:48:42
Thanks to those who got one of the Vault 13 keycaps. Check it out!:

(Attachment Link)

Just got my Vault 13 keycap too. The blue is as dark as your photo shows, which I like! Now I'm just waiting for the actual Nuclear set...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:16:31
I just put a Penumbra set on my 60% and it's true what Elrick the SA evangelist says... SA profile is insanely nice. So glad I ordered this set (and all the extras) now.

YES, another conversion to SA Perfection, hallelujah brother. 

You shall be anointed with the scent of everlasting Geekdom here on Earth and non shall interfere with that righteous ascent into heavenly delight  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 31 October 2014, 19:39:17
This will be my first SA profile and am extremely rxcitrdnabout it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ccc24 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 00:56:30
still waiting for my email... :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 15:20:31
still waiting for my email... :mad:

Same here...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Pliny on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:54:10
Just got my SP/Stamps.com emails today about 4:30PM ET. I doubt it's Massdrop Granite or Rad Hard, so that leaves Nuc Data!

Now if the keyboard I want to put them on would just get here... (it's on a slow boat from China - I'm pretty sure literally)

First SA also... not counting when I used an IBM keypunch machine back in the day...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:58:30
I received mine at 6:16 pm. Hoping it is granite but it isn't so I guess my Nuke is on its way
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: street_jackal on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:56:25
This is the only thing I have on order with SP, so I can confirm that this is indeed Nuclear Data. Got my email around the same time as everyone else today. At this rate it's going to beat the case I'm working on for it!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Mon, 03 November 2014, 21:02:42
Got my shipping notice. Came through PayPal this time. It's definitely Nuclear Data. Awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Mon, 03 November 2014, 21:15:42
Mine came from paypal as well
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 04 November 2014, 11:57:52
Got my confirmation from paypal and a tracking number from stamps.com. Weird thing is stamps also sent me someone else's tracking number as well, for some person living in Hawaii.... :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:36:17
Still haven't got anything =/ Although I guess it might take them longer to process INTL orders? IDK.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: RED-404 on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:54:14
I have 3 tracking numbers. What have I done?..
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:56:27
Still haven't got anything =/ Although I guess it might take them longer to process INTL orders? IDK.

I got one. According  to stamps its was in LA 1 nov. Tracking number has not shown up on swedish postal service yet.

Has anyone gotten the caps yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 November 2014, 10:56:32
I have 3 tracking numbers. What have I done?..

I've gotten other peoples shipping notices with other vendors and stamps.com before. But maybe you just ordered so much stuff it wouldn't fit in one box :o

My tracking shows mine due for delivery on Friday.  8)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 05 November 2014, 12:17:02
Tracking predicts delivery tomorrow for me, but it will probably be more like Friday.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 05 November 2014, 12:25:35
Tracking predicts TODAY for me, if I get it I'll let you know and maybe post pics
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Wed, 05 November 2014, 12:32:00
Has anyone gotten the caps yet?

I though my caps where scheduled to show up today, but on closer inspection it looks like the tracking number is actually for someone who lives in some town called Kent in Washington state. So, whoever that is should be receiving their caps today.  :( Post pics for us, mysterious groupbuy participant.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 05 November 2014, 12:58:55
Kent, WA is the USPS sorting facility for that area.  It's just the next major hub out of Custer, which is where SP is based.  Are you sure it shows Kent as the destination?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Dover on Wed, 05 November 2014, 12:58:57
Mine also says delivery for today, but it's in Kent, WA. I think it's just held up at a sorting facility or something.  Is there a way to check that I have the right tracking number from Stamps.com? I don't see anywhere where it says the city or address it's shipping to.

I currently have 4 different deliveries from USPS that I'm waiting on, from all over the country, and ALL of them are way behind their estimated delivery dates, and have been sitting in one place for days.  It's not even the holiday season yet, and USPS is a mess!   :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 05 November 2014, 13:00:24
USPS is very bad about updating its web tracking and it's only going to get worse as the holiday grows closer.

I've seen an item not show delivered until 48 hours AFTER it was actually delivered.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Wed, 05 November 2014, 14:43:08
Oh. Well, it doesn't actually show a destination address like UPS does. It just says that it's in Kent WA, that it's left the facility and is out for delivery today. I just took that to mean it was being delivered to someone in Kent. Heh.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Wed, 05 November 2014, 21:12:21
OK, I think my package will arrive tomorrow, just got a notification saying it's in New Jersey :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 November 2014, 09:36:28
I am in California, and my package-of-mystery was 40 miles away at midnight.  Will it come today?  Gonna have to get my biggest keyboard all naked to be ready.

Ducky 108 with Greens?  Yep.  That's the one!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Dover on Thu, 06 November 2014, 10:30:48
Mine says "Out for Delivery" now.  My local post office are lazy and sometimes don't actually attempt delivery, they just leave the pink slip, but it's a good sign for people waiting for their packages. 

BTW, does anybody know how large the package is that they ship (I have one full set & the orange keys)?  Wondering if it will fit in my apartment-size mailbox.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Thu, 06 November 2014, 11:42:00
BOOM
My son is beeing difficult, dont have time to put em on a kb yet.
(http://i.imgur.com/Effg9rg.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 06 November 2014, 11:59:05
Nice contrast on the green and orange.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Thu, 06 November 2014, 12:16:16
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 06 November 2014, 12:55:33
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)


Intense.


My order shows delivered, wife confirmed that I had received a package.  TONIGHT, WE DINE IN NUCLEAR DATA.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:05:31
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)


 :thumb:  AWESOME.  This is one of those group buys where everything turns out exactly as you thought it would.  That looks fantastic.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:10:45
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)


That looks better than I'd hoped for.

Excitement is high.  Patience in place.  Soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:23:09
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)


Welp I need new pants
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:32:50
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)


I knew I shoulda gotten in on that...dang, yo.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:46:02
It's here and it's beautiful!  :D Will post pictures soon
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:52:02
Now to wait for the SF40 so I can put these on a keyboard :\
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:44:01
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YEKY9NT.jpg)


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eJXNGZNI0_g/TlATHlcfSVI/AAAAAAAACZU/AlCAPX4CmmU/s1600/borat_nice-1.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:47:25
Well, I couldn't post my keyboard first, so I won't duplicate that effort.

But...

To those who have waited for these keycaps since Matt3o and I proposed them more than a year ago, I promised they'd be made, and here they are.

To those who helped along the way, especially SP, Matt3o, and the folks in the IC and GH-122 threads, thank you very much for helping this happen.

And for everyone who bought a set or sets so they all made MOQ, thank you very much!

Now then, where is a keycap puller?  I think the orange one from Techkeys is the right one for this job.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

p.s.  Elrick?  Happy birthday and Merry Christmas, mate!  I'm having a couple of beers tonight in your honor.

p.p.s.  Then I am gonna play some retro games with retro keycaps.

p.p.p.s.  Okay, here is a shot of just the base kit:

(http://i.imgur.com/F8alI9Q.jpg)
Nuclear Data Green Keycap Base Kit by SP, Matt3o, and samwisekoi 2014
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Pliny on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:17:03
Gorgeous!  :D The dark green all I hoped it would be!

Mad congratz to Matt3o and samwisekoi !!1

[The package is on my dining room table... time to swap out the caps on my CODE 104 tonite]
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:33:27
What happened to the promised RETURN key?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:58:42
Got my set, typing on it now...  I iz a happy camper.  It's everything I'd hoped for, and more; the concerns I had vis-a-viz the all one profile are gone, it's an uber-smooth typing experience!

By the way, props to SP for the nifty packaging; everything arrived in beautiful shape, and there's even a cool box to store the extra caps! 

Huge thanks to Matt3o and samwisekoi for bringing this set back to life!

 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Heliosphere on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:05:43
I just put this set on my Poker II: http://imgur.com/a/pfpW6?#4 (http://imgur.com/a/pfpW6?#4) (I'm having trouble adding images to posts so here's an Imgur link)

As this is my first SA row-3 set, the profile feels convex even though it's flat since I'm used to the concave profile of DCS.

One thing I noticed was that keycaps tended to get stuck when bottoming out if the LEDs were not sitting flush with the switches. Pushing the LEDs closer to the switch alleviated this problem.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:28:55
What happened to the promised RETURN key?

It made it into the ISO kit only. I have already reported it to SP. Please let me know if there are any other issues.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:41:17
I regret I did not get into this GB...Enjoy your coolness!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:41:47
Looks like my Dvorak kit has a deep dish F & G keys, and not a regular profile F & J key.


And I'm kicking myself for not buying an ISO kit. Anyone who wants to sell one, PM me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 06 November 2014, 18:02:37
For once, I kind of wish this was a beige board. No doubt this will pass...

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The only thing I'd like to add is an orange "Activate" key in place of the ISO return.   
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 18:31:53
I regret I did not get into this GB...Enjoy your coolness!

Rumour has it there may be extras for sale.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:28:24
Looks like my Dvorak kit has a deep dish F & G keys, and not a regular profile F & J key.


And I'm kicking myself for not buying an ISO kit. Anyone who wants to sell one, PM me.

I have reported the FJ problem, and will check my Dvorak set tomorrow.  Also, I almost certainly have an extra ISO set.

For once, I kind of wish this was a beige board. No doubt this will pass...

No, I think you are correct.  This set needs good old Beige plastic.  I may try some Plasti-Dip on a case.

Rumour has it there may be extras for sale.

Those rumors should include the numbers "2015".  Also the word "sculpted".  :D

---

I have these on my Ducky with Greens, and the keycaps feel great, and certainly change the feel of the switches, but I am not sure this is the right switch for these 'caps.  A very solid, almost typewriter sound and feel to this combo.  It is a good feeling, but seems slower than my Imsto PBT on the same keyboard.

Who is using which switches with these keycaps?  Also, we need to get someone to try them on a Novatouch.  I'd say mkawa, but I suspect he wouldn't send them back...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.



Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:35:41
Also, we need to get someone to try them on a Novatouch.  I'd say mkawa, but I suspect he wouldn't send them back...


I'll bring an empty novatouch to the next Kiibohd.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 06 November 2014, 19:50:33
Someone has tried them with clears yet? and to be specific with ergo-clears in the range of ~[45,55]? Yeah, that is my flavor of "ergo".

Also I'd like to get some feedback on the feeling of row-3-only vs. sculpted profiles.

If I'd find some extras available, great, if not I will get other SA set that were available, but I am not sure if I should get an sculpted or a flat profile.

It is known that each SA key weights ~1.8 gr, while any other profile is ~1 gr, thus the spring module will make the typing to feel different with SA, than with any other type of key, also the linear, and non-linears would feel different, but maybe such difference could be hard to notice while typing though.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 20:09:34
Also, we need to get someone to try them on a Novatouch.

I'm going to do this in a few minutes.  :P
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 20:49:03
What happened to the promised RETURN key?

It made it into the ISO kit only. I have already reported it to SP. Please let me know if there are any other issues.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Not an issue, but I misread when I ordered the blank green 1x caps - didn't notice they were deep dish and not normal profile.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 November 2014, 20:53:05
Also, we need to get someone to try them on a Novatouch.

I'm going to do this in a few minutes.  :P

Well this feels really nice.  It's up there with GMK in terms of feels on the Novatouch.   :thumb:

(sorry for huge photos, but I wanted to show it off in all its glory :P )

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/15543455808_3b26ce1d14_o.jpg)
Nuclear Data Novatouch (https://flic.kr/p/pFwgTo) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/people/99522542@N03/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7561/15705185256_f5d4fec82c_o.jpg)
Nuclear Data Novatouch (https://flic.kr/p/pVPbq9) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/people/99522542@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: street_jackal on Thu, 06 November 2014, 21:11:02
Apologies in advance for the potato quality, and for putting this set on a 60%  :-[ but I'm too excited not to share! I have a custom aluminum case in the works, and I think I'll make a nice cable to go with the orange accents. Great work on the set guys! More photos forthcoming once I get this properly in  order.


(http://i.imgur.com/gtru1qo.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 06 November 2014, 21:41:48
Does anyone have a Vault 13 along with their Nuclear Data. I am curious how they jive together, and as to where someone would place theirs. Believe me, I bow to the awe inspiring coolness of the Nuclear Data GB, but I am eager to see what the presence of the Vault Dweller does to the overall landscape of keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 06 November 2014, 21:56:39
I have these on my Ducky with Greens, and the keycaps feel great, and certainly change the feel of the switches, but I am not sure this is the right switch for these 'caps.  A very solid, almost typewriter sound and feel to this combo.  It is a good feeling, but seems slower than my Imsto PBT on the same keyboard.

Who is using which switches with these keycaps?  Also, we need to get someone to try them on a Novatouch.  I'd say mkawa, but I suspect he wouldn't send them back...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

They jive well with clear switches. They're even heavier then the Cherry doubleshots I took off, so the switches feel easier to press. I can't imagine these SA caps on a brown board, the springs might not rebound. :p

Does anyone have a Vault 13 along with their Nuclear Data. I am curious how they jive together, and as to where someone would place theirs. Believe me, I bow to the awe inspiring coolness of the Nuclear Data GB, but I am eager to see what the presence of the Vault Dweller does to the overall landscape of keycaps.

Saddly, no. I am not the Chosen One.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:37:33
Please let me know if there are any other issues.

It looks like they forgot that the orange arrow keys in the Radioactive Kit were supposed to be deep-dish.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:42:09
Not an issue, but I misread when I ordered the blank green 1x caps - didn't notice they were deep dish and not normal profile.

No, that isn't correct.  I'll check on that tomorrow as well.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 06 November 2014, 23:06:59
Got my order today. This is excellent. Once I'm done sorting through all the keys, I'll put it on my ErgoDox, and try to post some photos.

One thing I noticed, the printed minus key in the numpad doesn't match the size/line thickness of the rest of the keys. If I see anything else, I'll update this post.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 06 November 2014, 23:14:02
Looks like my Dvorak kit has a deep dish F & G keys, and not a regular profile F & J key.


And I'm kicking myself for not buying an ISO kit. Anyone who wants to sell one, PM me.

I have reported the FJ problem, and will check my Dvorak set tomorrow.  Also, I almost certainly have an extra ISO set.

IIRC, the original for the Dvorak kit in the first post had G instead of J in the kit, but you corrected it in the first post and on SP's site.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Thu, 06 November 2014, 23:42:33
Not an issue, but I misread when I ordered the blank green 1x caps - didn't notice they were deep dish and not normal profile.

There were 2 different 1x green blanks, one of them was deep dish and the other was normal profile.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 07 November 2014, 01:41:48
Here's my order. The 4 green blank keys on the right side are deep dish; the 20 on the left are normal profile.
(https://i.imgur.com/KzLteLTm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/KzLteLT.jpg)

And on my classic case ErgoDox with Clears.
(https://i.imgur.com/tEeGnVwm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/tEeGnVw.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 07 November 2014, 03:40:45
Not an issue, but I misread when I ordered the blank green 1x caps - didn't notice they were deep dish and not normal profile.

There were 2 different 1x green blanks, one of them was deep dish and the other was normal profile.

You had me worried about that for a moment, so I checked my order.  I'm fairly certain I ordered normal ones, which is what I wanted.

Also 590 of those were purchased :eek:

As of yesterday mine left the US.  Maybe another week or so until I get them.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:00:24
Not an issue, but I misread when I ordered the blank green 1x caps - didn't notice they were deep dish and not normal profile.

There were 2 different 1x green blanks, one of them was deep dish and the other was normal profile.

You had me worried about that for a moment, so I checked my order.  I'm fairly certain I ordered normal ones, which is what I wanted.

Also 590 of those were purchased :eek:

As of yesterday mine left the US.  Maybe another week or so until I get them.

Hmm - perhaps there were both profiles available, I honestly don't remember.  I did think I was ordering normal profile ones though.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:40:23
And on my classic case ErgoDox with Clears.
(https://i.imgur.com/tEeGnVwm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/tEeGnVw.jpg)

Looks good.  This is what I'll be doing with my Nuclear Data.  Just waiting on a metal case from the group buy.   :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:46:58
The weirdest thing just happened...

I have been using the Penumbra SA set on my 60% for a little while now and it looked and felt a bit odd at first, like the keycaps were all angled slightly down. Got used to it pretty quickly, though and fell in love with thick SA caps (they feel sooo good on 62g ErgoClears!).

Now I just received my GMK Dolch, thick Cherry profile doubleshots. I pulled off Penumbra, popped on Dolch and... it looks and feels wrong to me.

I have to say, I think I prefer all Row 3 SA even to GMK Cherry now. Seriously, I prefer caps made by SP to GMK... Just seems wrong somehow.

The truth is that Cherry and DCS profile, while being contoured are also "stepped", by tilting all the tops "backwards". After using a "flat" profile for a little, the stepping just feels odd. It seems to actually increase the distance between the keytops, like you have to lift your fingers over the edges instead of just sliding them across.

In the end I guess it's more about what you're used to and then comes down to personal preference, but I love SA profile now.

This has got me even more excited to receive my Jolly Green Goodness from this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 07 November 2014, 09:37:20
Update:  All issues reported here have been communicated to SP.  I had a very productive phone conversation with the Owner yesterday, and I am sure everything will be taken care of properly.  (IMHO, this is a benefit of working with the new system.)

To continue, please report any problems with the keycaps or keycap sets here and I will consolidate and submit them to SP for resolution.  If you had problems with your individual order, please report it directly to SP.  Feel free to post those here as well if you like and/or keep me in the loop.

Now, I am going back to figuring out how to tell Linux to remap my new Cut, Copy, Paste, and Undo keycaps as single-stroke ^X, ^C, ^V, and ^Z.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

p.s.  That guy working on the GH-122/153 had better hurry up and deliver!  Who is that again?   :-[

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 07 November 2014, 09:41:17
p.s.  That guy working on the GH-122/153 had better hurry up and deliver!  Who is that again?   :-[

I hear he is a wizard.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Fri, 07 November 2014, 10:07:56
p.s.  That guy working on the GH-122/153 had better hurry up and deliver!  Who is that again?   :-[

I hear he is a wizard.

I heard he was a robot with emergent AI.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 07 November 2014, 11:40:45
Oh wow. I just noticed that I got a second set of emails from PayPal/Stamps.com with a different tracking number. Looking up my orders on PayPal, I think the re-legendable keycaps should arrive today or tomorrow. Now I need to think about what I'll do with those.

samwisekoi -- much thanks for setting up and running this GB. It has gone very smoothly, and I am very happy with the results.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Dover on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:31:37
Anybody else a little bothered by the fact that the "SHIFT" lettering on right-shift is more squished together than the left (and all the other mods)? It jumped right out of me when I started unpacking the keys. I thought at first that the font was actually smaller, but it's just the spacing. It's a tiny complaint -- I love the set -- but just seems weird. An oversight, or something to do with how the key has to be constructed?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:47:08
Anybody else a little bothered by the fact that the "SHIFT" lettering on right-shift is more squished together than the left (and all the other mods)? It jumped right out of me when I started unpacking the keys. I thought at first that the font was actually smaller, but it's just the spacing. It's a tiny complaint -- I love the set -- but just seems weird. An oversight, or something to do with how the key has to be constructed?

I hadn't noticed that, but it doesn't seem right now that I have.  Can't unsee, dang it!

Oh wow. I just noticed that I got a second set of emails from PayPal/Stamps.com with a different tracking number. Looking up my orders on PayPal, I think the re-legendable keycaps should arrive today or tomorrow. Now I need to think about what I'll do with those.

samwisekoi -- much thanks for setting up and running this GB. It has gone very smoothly, and I am very happy with the results.


Relendables?  Awesome!  Also, thanks very much for the kind words.  I am glad you are happy.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: street_jackal on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:48:17
Anybody else a little bothered by the fact that the "SHIFT" lettering on right-shift is more squished together than the left (and all the other mods)? It jumped right out of me when I started unpacking the keys. I thought at first that the font was actually smaller, but it's just the spacing. It's a tiny complaint -- I love the set -- but just seems weird. An oversight, or something to do with how the key has to be constructed?

That's been bothering me too. It looks pretty out of place against the huge font of the alphas, or even the left shift. Is this intended? I love the set, but my eyes keep going back to the right shift and it's squished little lettering.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:55:14
Thank you very much for your post, this was the information I was in need for.

The weirdest thing just happened...

I have been using the Penumbra SA set on my 60% for a little while now and it looked and felt a bit odd at first, like the keycaps were all angled slightly down. Got used to it pretty quickly, though and fell in love with thick SA caps (they feel sooo good on 62g ErgoClears!).

Now I just received my GMK Dolch, thick Cherry profile doubleshots. I pulled off Penumbra, popped on Dolch and... it looks and feels wrong to me.

I have to say, I think I prefer all Row 3 SA even to GMK Cherry now. Seriously, I prefer caps made by SP to GMK... Just seems wrong somehow.

The truth is that Cherry and DCS profile, while being contoured are also "stepped", by tilting all the tops "backwards". After using a "flat" profile for a little, the stepping just feels odd. It seems to actually increase the distance between the keytops, like you have to lift your fingers over the edges instead of just sliding them across.

In the end I guess it's more about what you're used to and then comes down to personal preference, but I love SA profile now.

This has got me even more excited to receive my Jolly Green Goodness from this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Fri, 07 November 2014, 14:45:19
Got this set waiting for me when I get home, can't wait to try them on my ergodox all row 3 FTW
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Heliosphere on Fri, 07 November 2014, 14:45:32
Does anyone have a Vault 13 along with their Nuclear Data. I am curious how they jive together, and as to where someone would place theirs. Believe me, I bow to the awe inspiring coolness of the Nuclear Data GB, but I am eager to see what the presence of the Vault Dweller does to the overall landscape of keycaps.

I have it in my album here: http://imgur.com/a/pfpW6?#6 (http://imgur.com/a/pfpW6?#6)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Fri, 07 November 2014, 15:07:08
Anybody else a little bothered by the fact that the "SHIFT" lettering on right-shift is more squished together than the left (and all the other mods)? It jumped right out of me when I started unpacking the keys. I thought at first that the font was actually smaller, but it's just the spacing. It's a tiny complaint -- I love the set -- but just seems weird. An oversight, or something to do with how the key has to be constructed?

That's been bothering me too. It looks pretty out of place against the huge font of the alphas, or even the left shift. Is this intended? I love the set, but my eyes keep going back to the right shift and it's squished little lettering.

Damn - now I am seeing it too.  Even compared to right shift - it looks way off.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:18:40
Say, does anyone know if the multi-arrow keys included in the radioactive kit have scan codes? If so, what do they even do? I seem to remember something like them on old terminal boards.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Fri, 07 November 2014, 20:46:37
oh man putting these on my ergodox now

they are so awesome, wow
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 07 November 2014, 21:15:56
Ok, they were too harsh on my Ducky with Greens, so now I am trying them out on a CM Storm 104 with MX Browns, and they feel very nice indeed.  (Not happy that the CM Storm takes a modified Winkeyless bottom row, but what are you going to do?)

So far, this is my favorite combination.  Browns and the thick SA.  I think they look better on the CM Storm than they did on the Ducky as well.  I don't think that keyboard case had the right shape for these keycaps.

Anyhow, rumors of Browns not having strong enough springs were greatly exaggerated.  They work fine.  I am bottoming out more than before, so I might also try some O-rings.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

p.s.

Say, does anyone know if the multi-arrow keys included in the radioactive kit have scan codes? If so, what do they even do? I seem to remember something like them on old terminal boards.

What they do is look awesome.I think they'd be interesting on a 60% to provide a 2-key arrow cluster in combination with Shift.  In fact, you could use the four-way keycap with various mods to make a one-key arrow cluster.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Fri, 07 November 2014, 21:38:47
deserves a better camera picture but for now this will do

i put it on my full metal ergodox with 62g clears and my GHPAD with 68g blacks
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3952/15712590276_696d40a47d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pWt8EU)


they are so awesome :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Fri, 07 November 2014, 23:42:58
/jelly
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Sat, 08 November 2014, 03:46:55
Anybody else a little bothered by the fact that the "SHIFT" lettering on right-shift is more squished together than the left (and all the other mods)? It jumped right out of me when I started unpacking the keys. I thought at first that the font was actually smaller, but it's just the spacing. It's a tiny complaint -- I love the set -- but just seems weird. An oversight, or something to do with how the key has to be constructed?

I love the keycap set but this bothers me a little bit each time I look down at the keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 08 November 2014, 08:00:47
No wishing to be rude, but I have no idea what the **** is going on with my order
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:13:00
Is it common for the keys to have a dark green line that goes across the sides of the key caps tat are longer than 1u that runs across the top as well as different textures of both glossy and matte on the orange activate key?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:21:40
I received my order of green 1x relegendables today. Now I wish I had ordered a few of the orange 1x relegendables too. And maybe some of the 2x ones. The relegendables match perfectly in feel with the rest of the caps.

One thing -- I'm unsure what is the correct way to separate the clear top cap from the bottom. The clear top attaches quite securely to the bottom. I ended up using a pliers to grab the stem and pulling the bottom off the top.

Here's an updated photo with the relegendables, and some P-Touch labels in appropriate places.
(https://i.imgur.com/YDpK5aqm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/YDpK5aq.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:24:45
Is it common for the keys to have a dark green line that goes across the sides of the key caps tat are longer than 1u that runs across the top as well as different textures of both glossy and matte on the orange activate key?

I haven't noticed either problem with my order. You should contact SP about it, with a couple photos showing what you mean.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 08 November 2014, 14:50:25
I'm having a hard time taking a photo of it and capturing these in the image since I don't have a good camera (only have the one on NY phone)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 08 November 2014, 15:26:52
I'm having a hard time taking a photo of it and capturing these in the image since I don't have a good camera (only have the one on NY phone)

Lighting is most important for taking photos.  If you can, try photographing it outside in natural sunlight.  Not necessarily direct sunlight, but more light is generally better when using a phone camera.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 08 November 2014, 15:31:52
I tried that earlier but I still seem to b getting Potato images. Will it be a good idea to contact SP to see if they can possibly do a replacement?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 08 November 2014, 15:47:53
I tried that earlier but I still seem to b getting Potato images. Will it be a good idea to contact SP to see if they can possibly do a replacement?

SP are very responsive to feedback - it won't hurt to ask.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: neotrinity on Sat, 08 November 2014, 16:41:43
Update from London : Got the parcel  ;D. Just cant wait till Monday morning to try 'em on my keyboard !

But I had to pay an additional £18 for VAT   :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Sat, 08 November 2014, 17:32:27
Is it common for the keys to have a dark green line that goes across the sides of the key caps tat are longer than 1u that runs across the top as well as different textures of both glossy and matte on the orange activate key?

I see this too, mostly on my spacebars.  Not really worried about it - figured such is the nature of injection molding.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 08 November 2014, 19:39:38
Is it common for the keys to have a dark green line that goes across the sides of the key caps tat are longer than 1u that runs across the top as well as different textures of both glossy and matte on the orange activate key?

I see this too, mostly on my spacebars.  Not really worried about it - figured such is the nature of injection molding.

That makes two of us then. The weirdest thing is that my space bar does not have this.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Sat, 08 November 2014, 20:11:02
I received my order of green 1x relegendables today. Now I wish I had ordered a few of the orange 1x relegendables too. And maybe some of the 2x ones. The relegendables match perfectly in feel with the rest of the caps.

One thing -- I'm unsure what is the correct way to separate the clear top cap from the bottom. The clear top attaches quite securely to the bottom. I ended up using a pliers to grab the stem and pulling the bottom off the top.

Here's an updated photo with the relegendables, and some P-Touch labels in appropriate places.
(https://i.imgur.com/YDpK5aqm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/YDpK5aq.jpg)

love your ergodox and love what you did with the label maker i presume you used. really should steal that idea

---

I really hope someone runs another "ALL SA ROW 3" group buy again the exact way this one was run on PMK. its seriously one of the best ideas since granite and retro -- the two other sets i feel is essential for all geekhackers to own. having all the different rows with SA seems to be pointless to me

thank you Ron, i love this set
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Sat, 08 November 2014, 22:32:56
love your ergodox and love what you did with the label maker i presume you used. really should steal that idea

I bought a 1/2" white-on-clear P-Touch cartridge from Amazon for about $12. The smallest font on my label maker is about the same size as the font on the home/end/etc keys. For the labels on the front of the keys, I just cut the label so only the text was left. For the re-legendable keys, I kept the extra space above and below the text and just stuck to the bottom half of the caps. The adhesive is quite secure, but still easy to remove. I haven't noticed any residue in the years I've been doing this (started years ago when learning Dvorak).

I need to change out the labels on my other ErgoDox that has Penumbra, now that I have this white-on-clear cartridge.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Sun, 09 November 2014, 13:55:27
I had to try these out my G80-2100HDU. They feel and look great. The missing 'Big Ass Enter' key though... I'll have to put these on a conventional keyboard.

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/Krogenar/Green1.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/Krogenar/media/Green1.jpg.html)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/Krogenar/Green2.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/Krogenar/media/Green2.jpg.html)

The profile height difference is just too much to overcome.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 09 November 2014, 14:32:38
So I forgot to buy 2 deep dish green and orange blanks. Would anyone be willing to sell me some?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Sun, 09 November 2014, 21:10:53
Somehow I'm missing the N key from my order.  I also got a second 8 key from the number pad.  I emailed SP about it.  Strange mix-up.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Sun, 09 November 2014, 21:15:17
It seems that I'm missing my whole order...
...oh yeah, I missed this one.  :(

Anyone want to trade a Vault 13 key for a Double Ought key? I got it, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 10 November 2014, 10:12:09
I had to try these out my G80-2100HDU. They feel and look great. The missing 'Big Ass Enter' key though... I'll have to put these on a conventional keyboard.

The profile height difference is just too much to overcome.

I so much wanted to include a Big Ass Enter keycap, but they are not available in SA.  I did try. :(

Also, in case you didn't know, I am designing a 122+ PCB called the GH-122, and I am looking for some measurements to try and make it possible to fit into Unicomp and Cherry 122-key cases.  Including yours.

Would it be possible for you to measure the horizontal space between the blocks?  Specifically the distance between the post centers of Tilde and Vol Dn?

Back to the Big Ass Enter key, where is the switch?  In the same spot as an ISO Enter key?

Anyone want to trade a Vault 13 key for a Double Ought key?

Sure.  Send me a PM or e-mail.  I am in your system for Order #14293.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Mon, 10 November 2014, 11:21:58
I so much wanted to include a Big Ass Enter keycap, but they are not available in SA.  I did try. :(

I know! I asked! :) No worries. The caps are on my Ducky 108 with greens, and they feel great! I was worried the all R3 wouldn't feel right, but it's just fine. The keys feels very solid. Loving this set - thanks Sam!

Quote
Also, in case you didn't know, I am designing a 122+ PCB called the GH-122, and I am looking for some measurements to try and make it possible to fit into Unicomp and Cherry 122-key cases.  Including yours.

I've got to get in on that - my first PCB buy. I don't think I'd mess with the 2100, but I'd buy another case.

Quote
Would it be possible for you to measure the horizontal space between the blocks?  Specifically the distance between the post centers of Tilde and Vol Dn?

Sure! What unit of measurement? I assume millimeters? (Damn you, metric system.) Hell, I'll send you the keyboard if it'll help.

Quote
Back to the Big Ass Enter key, where is the switch?  In the same spot as an ISO Enter key?

I'll pop it open and check.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Mon, 10 November 2014, 12:54:45
I received my re-lengendable caps in the mail today. Assembled, they look better than I expected. The click together very securely. So securely, you need tools to take them apart again, which is a good thing. Please forgive the phone photos.
[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
[attachimg=3][attachimg=4]
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 November 2014, 13:01:33
I should have gotten in on those re-legendable caps, I forgot about them. They look really nice.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 11 November 2014, 07:09:35
I should have gotten in on those re-legendable caps, I forgot about them. They look really nice.

I agree, they look awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Tue, 11 November 2014, 08:41:59
I should have gotten in on those re-legendable caps, I forgot about them. They look really nice.

I agree, they look awesome.

yes... and I waited too long and then forgot about them until it was too late  :'(

If anyone have any to spare I'll be very happy to buy some.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 November 2014, 09:00:46
deserves a better camera picture but for now this will do

i put it on my full metal ergodox with 62g clears and my GHPAD with 68g blacks
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3952/15712590276_696d40a47d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pWt8EU)


they are so awesome :)

Could you please elaborate on how your modded clears feel?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:21:01
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61198.0;attach=81611;image)
:o

One day, we should order the tool to let them make double-shot legends on the inserts.
:-)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:55:31
Still haven't got an email about mine. I emailed SP and hopefully they can sort it out for me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 12 November 2014, 09:31:16
Bob will hook you up.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:07:25
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:09:12
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...

That would conflict with this IC (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.0) here which is pretty much the same thing...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:11:59
Would it be possible for you to measure the horizontal space between the blocks?  Specifically the distance between the post centers of Tilde and Vol Dn?

I find 1.125" from the center of one 'cross' to the next. Here's a photo.

[attach=1]

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Back to the Big Ass Enter key, where is the switch?  In the same spot as an ISO Enter key?

[attach=2]
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:27:51
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...

That would conflict with this IC (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.0) here which is pretty much the same thing...

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I have PM's BerzerkerFan about it. If he has a problem, I will withdraw the idea.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:33:02
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...

That would conflict with this IC (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.0) here which is pretty much the same thing...

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I have PM's BerzerkerFan about it. If he has a problem, I will withdraw the idea.

He stated in the thread that if there is enough demand for a specific colour, it would totally be fine to run that as well.
IMO it would be best to polish up that thread and have it gather interest for any and every colour.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:40:15
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...

That would conflict with this IC (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.0) here which is pretty much the same thing...

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I have PM's BerzerkerFan about it. If he has a problem, I will withdraw the idea.

He stated in the thread that if there is enough demand for a specific colour, it would totally be fine to run that as well.
IMO it would be best to polish up that thread and have it gather interest for any and every colour.

Which thread? Mine or his?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:42:30
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...

That would conflict with this IC (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.0) here which is pretty much the same thing...

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I have PM's BerzerkerFan about it. If he has a problem, I will withdraw the idea.

He stated in the thread that if there is enough demand for a specific colour, it would totally be fine to run that as well.
IMO it would be best to polish up that thread and have it gather interest for any and every colour.

Which thread? Mine or his?

This was a conversation that went on in his thread
More
I think that something like SA, especially when relegendable is begging for classic colours like black or beige.

In my case, I am not willing to buy 200 black or beige. Still, you have a point. I think people should post the number they want to buy if white, and the number they hope to buy if it's their ideal color.

If a bunch of people come forward and say they'll buy 400 florescent green or 650 brown, I will be more than happy to buy the remaining 100 to meet tipping point even though these colors are not my preferred.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 12 November 2014, 11:09:56
FrostyToast, he and I are in PM talks about it. Dunno what will come of it. I just want to offer them as companions to the Novelties I create. No biggie either way to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 12 November 2014, 11:26:16
FrostyToast, he and I are in PM talks about it. Dunno what will come of it. I just want to offer them as companions to the Novelties I create. No biggie either way to me.

Will be looking forward to updates :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 November 2014, 11:28:03
I didn't read all the posts so far but was the 6-key Dvorak/Colemak Kit not correct?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: chrisq on Thu, 13 November 2014, 11:50:00
Does anyone want another shot at relegendables? I am thinking of adding them to my upcoming SA GB. I will likely do Rad Hard color, Orange ones, and GLID as well. Be sure to follow my IC for Series II of the Vault 13 SA Row 3 novelty set (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64963.msg1519559#msg1519559) coming up...

Yes, I want this. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:13:15
Can we have another all row 3 group buy (different color). from someone run exactly the way this one was run. Seriously this cannot be the only one ever, I'm hooked on all SA row 3 on 62g clears (no lube) on my ergodox, it's ****ing end game for me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:21:55
Can we have another all row 3 group buy (different color). from someone run exactly the way this one was run. Seriously this cannot be the only one ever, I'm hooked on all SA row 3 on 62g clears (no lube) on my ergodox, it's ****ing end game for me.

What colors would you want...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:29:40
Can we have another all row 3 group buy (different color). from someone run exactly the way this one was run. Seriously this cannot be the only one ever, I'm hooked on all SA row 3 on 62g clears (no lube) on my ergodox, it's ****ing end game for me.

What colors would you want...

Something simple that would sell well. white on black or dark grey or navy or whatever uniform like this group buy with the option of individual blanks like this group buy did. Ron really hit it out of the park in the options given on PMK. All row 3 ftw.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:30:06
Did the letter spacing on the right shift issue get any response from SP?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 13 November 2014, 22:02:37
Did the letter spacing on the right shift issue get any response from SP?

Or the "Return" legend issue...  :P
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Thu, 13 November 2014, 22:06:12
or the DVORAK kit...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 13 November 2014, 22:47:26
or the DVORAK kit...

+1
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Fri, 14 November 2014, 00:10:13
or the orange cursor keys that were supposed to be deep-dish but aren't...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 14 November 2014, 00:16:38
With so many issues in this group buy, I am surprised that people aren't more...
NUCLEAR!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 14 November 2014, 01:47:55
or the DVORAK kit...
+1

Here's something interesting I just noticed about the deep dish Dvorak/Colemak kit. It should have been FJUHTN, but we got FGUHTN instead. There are images for both sets (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/6-key-dvorakcolemak-kit/) on the PMK page.

The interesting thing is this -- the base kit already comes with deep dish F and J keys.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Fri, 14 November 2014, 04:54:17
The interesting thing is this -- the base kit already comes with deep dish F and J keys.

But the base kit doesn't come with non-deep-dish F and J keys, which is what the ones in the Dvorak/Colemak kit were supposed to be.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Fri, 14 November 2014, 05:12:31
**** is that true? I was thinking of trying out colemak one day and got the deep dish kit. I figured it was correct
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 14 November 2014, 06:28:35
**** is that true? I was thinking of trying out colemak one day and got the deep dish kit. I figured it was correct

To add to the above, which I have found to also be true with my set, the T in my Dvorak/Colemak kit was not deep dish either.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Fri, 14 November 2014, 06:31:27
SP needs to fix that..... and the shift...  I didn't notice because of qwerty ergodox.  I'm sure they will fix it
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: snoopy on Fri, 14 November 2014, 07:30:43
my set got stuck at german customs :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 14 November 2014, 08:34:37
I have been in constant communications with the top man at SP since our first set was received.  They cannot do anything about German customs, but they are going to sort out the other issues identified.

I will pass along more details when they are certain.

NOTE: Individual order problems should continue to be sent directly to SP.


More when I know more,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 14 November 2014, 10:44:53
I have been in constant communications with the top man at SP since our first set was received.  They cannot do anything about German customs, but they are going to sort out the other issues identified.

I will pass along more details when they are certain.

NOTE: Individual order problems should continue to be sent directly to SP.


More when I know more,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Sweet! Thank you for looking after us, Ron!

<Mine are in Finnish customs now, too... No worries, just one last step and they'll be in my hands. >
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 14 November 2014, 11:35:02
The interesting thing is this -- the base kit already comes with deep dish F and J keys.

But the base kit doesn't come with non-deep-dish F and J keys, which is what the ones in the Dvorak/Colemak kit were supposed to be.

D'oh! I should have realized that. Sorry for the brain-o.

Now, I need to check the Dvorak/Colemak kit again. I thought all the keys were deep dish (and supposed be all deep dish, which is obviously wrong).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 14 November 2014, 12:35:58
In case anyone's interested, I've created an album of my NDG-SA-R3 photos (https://imgur.com/a/nDvry) including some macro photos of the SA-R3 relegendables with the P-Touch labels. They're the same photos I posted at http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.msg1535780#msg1535780 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65598.msg1535780#msg1535780).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 14 November 2014, 20:46:14
Today was a green day, with only one small mistake in the order (1.5x blanks instead of 1.25x blanks).

[attachimg=1]

(Extras and blanks not pictured.)

Thank you to samwisekoi and Matt3o for the GB, thank you to Elrick for going on and on about them until I had to get a set, and a huge thank you to HoffmanMyster for helping out with the payment :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Fri, 14 November 2014, 21:17:02
I have been in constant communications with the top man at SP since our first set was received.  They cannot do anything about German customs, but they are going to sort out the other issues identified.

I will pass along more details when they are certain.

NOTE: Individual order problems should continue to be sent directly to SP.


More when I know more,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

What are we looking at here?

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61198.0;attach=81881;image)

Some of the fixes?
 - Correctly spaced characters on right shift
 - Return instead of Enter
 - correct size minus symbol
 - non deep dish F and J for non QWERTY
Can't tell what's up with the obelus, equal or multiplication ones
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Sat, 15 November 2014, 03:51:18
it seems some ppl have enter on their "enter" keys and some have return. Myself have a RETURN ISO enter and one ENTER enter, and one speciality ENTER excuse the confuse :) 01 lloks to have have return on his enter key..
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 15 November 2014, 04:13:31
it seems some ppl have enter on their "enter" keys and some have return. Myself have a RETURN ISO enter and one ENTER enter, and one speciality ENTER excuse the confuse :) 01 lloks to have have return on his enter key..

Mine (as I'm sure you saw) has ENTER, but I would have been happy with either.  Numpad Enter says "LINE FEED" :))
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 15 November 2014, 09:51:52
it seems some ppl have enter on their "enter" keys and some have return. Myself have a RETURN ISO enter and one ENTER enter, and one speciality ENTER excuse the confuse :) 01 lloks to have have return on his enter key..

Mine (as I'm sure you saw) has ENTER, but I would have been happy with either.  Numpad Enter says "LINE FEED" :))

it seems some ppl have enter on their "enter" keys and some have return. Myself have a RETURN ISO enter and one ENTER enter, and one speciality ENTER excuse the confuse :) 01 lloks to have have return on his enter key..

Numpad Enter is supposed to say "LINE FEED".  Specialty orange Enter should say "ACTIVATE".  Both ANSI and ISO Enter keys should say 'RETURN", but the ANSI one was incorrect.  Dvorak kit should have contained flat F and J keycaps. "SHIFT" keys should have matching legends.  The minus and multiplication legends should match the width of the equals and division legends.

Soon they all will!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Sat, 15 November 2014, 10:10:43
I have been in constant communications with the top man at SP since our first set was received.  They cannot do anything about German customs, but they are going to sort out the other issues identified.

I will pass along more details when they are certain.

NOTE: Individual order problems should continue to be sent directly to SP.


More when I know more,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

What are we looking at here?

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=61198.0;attach=81881;image)


Some of the fixes?
 - Correctly spaced characters on right shift
 - Return instead of Enter
 - correct size minus symbol
 - non deep dish F and J for non QWERTY
Can't tell what's up with the obelus, equal or multiplication ones

Numpad Enter is supposed to say "LINE FEED".  Specialty orange Enter should say "ACTIVATE".  Both ANSI and ISO Enter keys should say 'RETURN", but the ANSI one was incorrect.  Dvorak kit should have contained flat F and J keycaps. "SHIFT" keys should have matching legends.  The minus and multiplication legends should match the width of the equals and division legends.

Soon they all will!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

That explains the pic - thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Sat, 15 November 2014, 15:01:54
The 1.75 SHIFT in the Specialty Kit has the same squished legend as the 2.75 SHIFT in the Base Kit.  Can it be fixed as well?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 16 November 2014, 10:56:04
The 1.75 SHIFT in the Specialty Kit has the same squished legend as the 2.75 SHIFT in the Base Kit.  Can it be fixed as well?

Oh man, I did not know that.

Maybe?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 16 November 2014, 13:11:05
All these keys that are going to be fixed - do we each need to file a claim with PMK for replacement, or will they remake those keys and ship to everyone who ordered?

Or is this planning for a potential R2?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sun, 16 November 2014, 13:43:39
All these keys that are going to be fixed - do we each need to file a claim with PMK for replacement, or will they remake those keys and ship to everyone who ordered?

Or is this planning for a potential R2?

I am working with SP on a bulk fix for the bulk problems.  I am also being intentionally vague until I have final confirmation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Sun, 16 November 2014, 16:05:12
All these keys that are going to be fixed - do we each need to file a claim with PMK for replacement, or will they remake those keys and ship to everyone who ordered?

Or is this planning for a potential R2?

I am working with SP on a bulk fix for the bulk problems.  I am also being intentionally vague until I have final confirmation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Not to pile it on but the legend on my Vault 13 is flat on the back side of the three...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 16 November 2014, 19:32:42
All these keys that are going to be fixed - do we each need to file a claim with PMK for replacement, or will they remake those keys and ship to everyone who ordered?

Or is this planning for a potential R2?

I am working with SP on a bulk fix for the bulk problems.  I am also being intentionally vague until I have final confirmation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I'm mainly asking because I reported some wrong keycaps to them, and Bob promised to send out three replacements on Monday.  I really don't want them to keep sending out batches of 3 or 3 keycaps at a time, especially internationally.  If they can combine everything into one shipment, particularly for OS members, that might save them a bit of needless postage cost.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Sun, 16 November 2014, 21:31:02
All these keys that are going to be fixed - do we each need to file a claim with PMK for replacement, or will they remake those keys and ship to everyone who ordered?

Or is this planning for a potential R2?

I am working with SP on a bulk fix for the bulk problems.  I am also being intentionally vague until I have final confirmation.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

I'm mainly asking because I reported some wrong keycaps to them, and Bob promised to send out three replacements on Monday.  I really don't want them to keep sending out batches of 3 or 3 keycaps at a time, especially internationally.  If they can combine everything into one shipment, particularly for OS members, that might save them a bit of needless postage cost.

Two words: Quality Control
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 16 November 2014, 23:07:42
Seeing this disaster I don't dare do an SA keycap buy now... just don't have the time and patience to handle such issues.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Mon, 17 November 2014, 09:02:16
Seeing this disaster I don't dare do an SA keycap buy now... just don't have the time and patience to handle such issues.

Um...  The issues are really minor and SP is handling it with their usual outstanding service.  There are just a few mistakes in production.  My missing N key flew out the door the same day that I reported it to Bob and I had it in my hands by Thursday (from WA to FL).  This has gone pretty smoothly overall, including SP graciously accepting our changes to the GB after it had already started.  There's nothing in this thread that should discourage you.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 17 November 2014, 09:56:50
Um...  The issues are really minor and SP is handling it with their usual outstanding service.  There are just a few mistakes in production.  My missing N key flew out the door the same day that I reported it to Bob and I had it in my hands by Thursday (from WA to FL).  This has gone pretty smoothly overall, including SP graciously accepting our changes to the GB after it had already started.  There's nothing in this thread that should discourage you.

No thank you. Now that I'm thinking about it, I have bad memories of my CCNG group buy where after waiting 6 months for it, I was forced to sell my set because it came with a missing key that simply couldn't be obtained anywhere. When I sold it (at a loss) I was even forced to sacrifice one of my green relegendables to make up the missing key.

In fact now that pasph and nomaded have introduced me to the wonderful world of Brother Label printers I think that's the route I will try out. It so happens that I have more blank keycaps than anyone on geekhack (probably >2000) and these aren't selling like hotcakes so if I can make my own keycap labels that makes all the sense in the world to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Mon, 17 November 2014, 10:09:46
OK...  It's your choice.  No pressure.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:14:10
Seeing this disaster I don't dare do an SA keycap buy now... just don't have the time and patience to handle such issues.

Um...  The issues are really minor and SP is handling it with their usual outstanding service.  There are just a few mistakes in production.  My missing N key flew out the door the same day that I reported it to Bob and I had it in my hands by Thursday (from WA to FL).  This has gone pretty smoothly overall, including SP graciously accepting our changes to the GB after it had already started.  There's nothing in this thread that should discourage you.

Well, if this was just a simple "keycaps to match my girlfriend's favorite color" group buy, then there wouldn't be these problems.  Instead, I asked them to go into their 40+ year old archive to find molds that matched the design concept.  And then we asked them to make up some special keycaps that matched OUR vision of the set.

And then they got made and shipped promptly, and replacements to normal kitting errors were also shipped promptly.  Oh, kitting would be easier if this was, again, a simple "keycaps to match my girlfriend's favorite color" group buy, but it isn't, so there are more than usual.  And still they are sorting them out without delay.  They are consolidating shipments where possible, and have been very responsive throughout.

However, leading a group buy of any sort is not for everyone, so make your own choices.  But this one?  This one is a success!

Just my two pence,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:40:31
Seeing this disaster I don't dare do an SA keycap buy now... just don't have the time and patience to handle such issues.

Um...  The issues are really minor and SP is handling it with their usual outstanding service.  There are just a few mistakes in production.  My missing N key flew out the door the same day that I reported it to Bob and I had it in my hands by Thursday (from WA to FL).  This has gone pretty smoothly overall, including SP graciously accepting our changes to the GB after it had already started.  There's nothing in this thread that should discourage you.

Well, if this was just a simple "keycaps to match my girlfriend's favorite color" group buy, then there wouldn't be these problems.  Instead, I asked them to go into their 40+ year old archive to find molds that matched the design concept.  And then we asked them to make up some special keycaps that matched OUR vision of the set.

And then they got made and shipped promptly, and replacements to normal kitting errors were also shipped promptly.  Oh, kitting would be easier if this was, again, a simple "keycaps to match my girlfriend's favorite color" group buy, but it isn't, so there are more than usual.  And still they are sorting them out without delay.  They are consolidating shipments where possible, and have been very responsive throughout.

However, leading a group buy of any sort is not for everyone, so make your own choices.  But this one?  This one is a success!

Just my two pence,

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Well stated. I concur that SP is on the ball when mistakes are made. I had an issue with my tinitiny single Vault 13 GB and they are addressing in time for Round 2. Course I will now be labeled a SP fanboy, but so what. Can GMK do Polycarb? Mich denke nicht!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 18 November 2014, 10:55:31
I'm happy with my set.

The test of a good supplier is not that NO MISTAKES are ever made; the test is how they react when there are problems. And SP always seems to do the right thing.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 18 November 2014, 11:10:11
I'm happy with my set.

The test of a good supplier is not that NO MISTAKES are ever made; the test is how they react when there are problems. And SP always seems to do the right thing.

+1
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 18 November 2014, 12:52:03
+2
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FingerPunch on Tue, 18 November 2014, 13:02:39
I received a tracking number from Stamps today. Are the corrections for this set already being sent?!  :) I can't think what else it could be.

BTW, I'm typing on this keyset right now and I'm super happy with it. These keys are silky smooth, like typing on warm butter. I have them on cherry blues and it changed the tone drastically. The bottoming out is a much lower sound, but the actuation click is much higher pitched. I don't particularly like blues, but now my keyboard sounds like a full-on typewriter and I'm digging it. Also worth noting, I believe the fact that these keys do not have cross-braces means that we get increased range before bottoming out (and no o-ring compatibility) which I very much like on a typing board, the switch bottoms out internally instead of externally on the brace; this might not be a good feature for gaming.

Not that I'm too upset or anything, but did anyone else's TAB key have a flash mark on the left side?

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Tue, 18 November 2014, 13:07:16
i got a notification too. Was hoping it was granite :P
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 November 2014, 13:08:15
I don't know about other keycap replacements, but I was shipped the wrong size blanks.  I wrote a polite email to SP, had a response within a day (on the weekend), and received a shipping notice on Monday (US Monday, actually Tuesday for me).

Service plus, would buy again :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Tue, 18 November 2014, 13:49:46
I also got tracking info from Stamps.com. There was a name attached to the email, so it confused me, until I looked at the tracking info, and notice that the originating ZIP code is the same as the previous SP orders.

Again, a well run GB, and I'm extremely happy with the results.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 18 November 2014, 14:06:44
Not that I'm too upset or anything, but did anyone else's TAB key have a flash mark on the left side?

I believe that's a sprue mark.  It's unfortunate that they sometimes have them in less-inconspicuous locations, but it's usually what makes more sense on their end.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 November 2014, 15:01:30
Not that I'm too upset or anything, but did anyone else's TAB key have a flash mark on the left side?

My Tab key has one visible on the left too.  But I don't go down that side of the keyboard very often, so I hadn't noticed it before.

Doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FingerPunch on Tue, 18 November 2014, 15:09:30
I thought it was a sprue mark as well, but then I noticed none of the other keys have it, so I believe the sprue is probably on the key bottom edge. In this case I think it's probably a mold defect.

I didn't complain to SP or anyone else about my wrong keys yet, so I suppose SP took it upon themselves to correct the ones that they know everyone got. Good deal  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 18 November 2014, 15:33:46
I thought it was a sprue mark as well, but then I noticed none of the other keys have it, so I believe the sprue is probably on the key bottom edge. In this case I think it's probably a mold defect.

I didn't complain to SP or anyone else about my wrong keys yet, so I suppose SP took it upon themselves to correct the ones that they know everyone got. Good deal  :thumb:

Most of their sprues are either on the front or back of 1x keys, and on the sides of the longer keys.  (and you'll notice that arrow keys for DSA and SA sets have the sprues all on the same side due to using the same mould for all four)  The only out of place thing here is that it's on the outside of the cluster of keys.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Cods on Tue, 18 November 2014, 17:35:36
A decent sized box with my couple of sets plus numerous extras arrived Monday in Australia. Straight on to the FC660M!
Now, to mod the space bar to fit the odd FC660M stabiliser spacings, so I can get rid of the stock grey bar...
Rad Hard also to come.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:30:02
The more I look at the function keys, the more I think they used the letter "I" for "1" and the letter "O" for "0".  I wonder why?  Round4 SPH does not appear to be that way.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:39:06
Just got a stamps notice from someone named barb and I'm assuming its from SP since it said Custer WA. I wonder what its for tho since I haven't reported !much as I haven't gotten the time to go through my nuclears yet
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:44:34
The more I look at the function keys, the more I think they used the letter "I" for "1" and the letter "O" for "0".  I wonder why?  Round4 SPH does not appear to be that way.
It was my understanding that this practice was common back in the early days of keyboarding. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: FingerPunch on Tue, 18 November 2014, 18:50:04
I thought it was a sprue mark as well, but then I noticed none of the other keys have it, so I believe the sprue is probably on the key bottom edge. In this case I think it's probably a mold defect.

I didn't complain to SP or anyone else about my wrong keys yet, so I suppose SP took it upon themselves to correct the ones that they know everyone got. Good deal  :thumb:

Most of their sprues are either on the front or back of 1x keys, and on the sides of the longer keys.  (and you'll notice that arrow keys for DSA and SA sets have the sprues all on the same side due to using the same mould for all four)  The only out of place thing here is that it's on the outside of the cluster of keys.

I see what you mean, but the sprue is one the bottom on the edge of the key. On the tab key, there is something that looks like a sprue but farther up, as you can see in the pic. In fact, you can see what i believe are the sprue marks in the same picture that I posted, but at the bottom of each key.

None of the other keys have the mark that the TAB has, that is why I think it is a defect (in the mold, if other people have keys like this).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 November 2014, 19:00:04
The more I look at the function keys, the more I think they used the letter "I" for "1" and the letter "O" for "0".  I wonder why?  Round4 SPH does not appear to be that way.
It was my understanding that this practice was common back in the early days of keyboarding. Can anyone confirm?


There was an old typewriter thread here (old typewriters, old thread) that showed a typewriter apparently missing several keys, but someone explained that o0 are the same, 3 and Cyrillic 3 were the same, and a couple of others.

So yes, I believe this was the practice.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 18 November 2014, 19:02:33
A decent sized box with my couple of sets plus numerous extras arrived Monday in Australia. Straight on to the FC660M!
Now, to mod the space bar to fit the odd FC660M stabiliser spacings, so I can get rid of the stock grey bar...
Rad Hard also to come.

That Fn!

Now I realise I missed the specialty kit :(

Oh well.

Oops double post, serves me right for opening too many browser tabs :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Tue, 18 November 2014, 20:09:55
The more I look at the function keys, the more I think they used the letter "I" for "1" and the letter "O" for "0".  I wonder why?  Round4 SPH does not appear to be that way.
It was my understanding that this practice was common back in the early days of keyboarding. Can anyone confirm?


There was an old typewriter thread here (old typewriters, old thread) that showed a typewriter apparently missing several keys, but someone explained that o0 are the same, 3 and Cyrillic 3 were the same, and a couple of others.

So yes, I believe this was the practice.

Yes, some old typewriters economized that way.  The Remington typewriter that my father used as a clerk typist in the Army in the '50s lacked a key for the number one because you could use a lower-case L instead.  But what has any of that to do with how function keys are legended?  That's apples and oranges.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 18 November 2014, 20:19:27
Mine are in the mail, looks like I am going to have to deal with SP again when they get here for any corrections as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: neotrinity on Wed, 19 November 2014, 04:45:39
Hey guys. I have got another tracking number from SP.

I dont know what package are they sending in now ? I have already got my nuclear data + iso kit + speciality kit  that I had ordered for.

Maybe they are sending in the corrections that have been reported back to them to everyone ??

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 19 November 2014, 07:39:04
I received a tracking notification from SP as well - though I made no claim. The minus symbol on my numpad is on the small side, but otherwise the set looks great to me. My standards are low, I guess.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 19 November 2014, 09:01:40
Just got a stamps notice from someone named barb and I'm assuming its from SP since it said Custer WA. I wonder what its for tho since I haven't reported !much as I haven't gotten the time to go through my nuclears yet

Updates to the Nuclear Data Green base, specialty, Dvorak, and radioactive sets were shipped to original buyers.  In my case, on Tuesday.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 19 November 2014, 10:46:16
I know that mentioned before that I would like to do a relegendable GB in conjunction with Out of the Vault: Series II, but I have decided to make it a separate Group Buy Event for those interested. The IC is here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65785.0).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 19 November 2014, 11:01:37
The more I look at the function keys, the more I think they used the letter "I" for "1" and the letter "O" for "0".  I wonder why?  Round4 SPH does not appear to be that way.
It was my understanding that this practice was common back in the early days of keyboarding. Can anyone confirm?


There was an old typewriter thread here (old typewriters, old thread) that showed a typewriter apparently missing several keys, but someone explained that o0 are the same, 3 and Cyrillic 3 were the same, and a couple of others.

So yes, I believe this was the practice.

Yes, some old typewriters economized that way.  The Remington typewriter that my father used as a clerk typist in the Army in the '50s lacked a key for the number one because you could use a lower-case L instead.  But what has any of that to do with how function keys are legended?  That's apples and oranges.

This keyset is based on an old terminal system (obviously) and uses legends/tooling that were brought out of retirement (if I understand samwisekoi correctly) to produce the GB.  I was referencing old keyboards, not necessarily typewriters.  That's how it's related.

Edit:  In fact, if you look at the original board:

(http://i.imgur.com/TXUhQY7.jpg)

You can see how O (oh) and 0 (zero) are a similar shape, zero adding the "strike" to differentiate itself as a numeral.  The fat O and skinny 0 characters haven't always been a thing.

Though they clearly didn't do this with the 1/I/L key on the original board.  So I don't know.  SP's tooling isn't an exact match for the Nuclear Data terminals, it's just perfectly Old School for this keyset.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: maladroid on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:47:03
I agree that SP's tooling is appropriately old school, which is why the letters-for-numerals swap makes no sense to me.  The mock-up used to sell this GB certainly does not suggest that that would be done.  I'm glad I bought enough relegendables that I can do my own thing with the function keys.  FI makes me think, "FIE, FI, FO, FUM" and FIO make me think of FiOS.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nilpt on Wed, 19 November 2014, 16:00:58
For your pleasure (and mine...):
(http://i.imgur.com/wUSLTsZ.jpg)

The blank ISO return did not come, so I had to make do with an alternate...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Thu, 20 November 2014, 09:28:13
I just created a post-nuclear [IC] topic.  Please post your beyond Nuclear Data Green comments there (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65864.0).

Carry on with posting about Nuclear Data Green keycaps here.  I, for one, have a package waiting for me back at my office!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 20 November 2014, 09:51:17
I just created a post-nuclear [IC] topic.  Please post your beyond Nuclear Data Green comments there (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65864.0).

Carry on with posting about Nuclear Data Green keycaps here.  I, for one, have a package waiting for me back at my office!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Duly noted and thank you kind sir!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 20 November 2014, 17:35:33
That was fast shipping!  Replacement caps came in today :

(http://s18.postimg.org/5ilgxb8ax/20141120_172347.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 20 November 2014, 20:22:00
:eek: How many replacements did you get?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 0100010 on Thu, 20 November 2014, 20:29:53
:eek: How many replacements did you get?

Ha! Most of those are ones I already had.  I think the replacements I got were :

Right Shift
Return
Deep Dish orange arrows
Numpad Multiply
Numpad Minus
Ron's special gift key

Everyone will get different replacements based on what was ordered originally.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 20 November 2014, 20:32:05
:eek: How many replacements did you get?

Ha! Most of those are ones I already had.  I think the replacements I got were :

Right Shift
Return
Deep Dish orange arrows
Numpad Multiply
Numpad Minus
Ron's special gift key

Everyone will get different replacements based on what was ordered originally.

Ah, ok, for some reason I thought the laid out set was what you had, and everything in plastic bags were replacements :))
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 01111000 on Thu, 20 November 2014, 20:39:32
Thanks for the GeekHack key.  It was a nice, unexpected, surprise :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 20 November 2014, 20:56:24
Got mine as well. This was a far faster turnaround than I imagined. Is SP always this quick with replacements or is somebody up there a fan?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Heliosphere on Thu, 20 November 2014, 22:05:18
I just received the replacement pack. It came with Shift, Return, numpad -, numpad x, two sets of arrow keys, and GH key. Were the two arrow sets intentional?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 20 November 2014, 22:28:05
Got mine as well. This was a far faster turnaround than I imagined. Is SP always this quick with replacements or is somebody up there a fan?


Mine have been in the post since Monday (in the US, which is Tuesday for me).  Not expecting them for another couple of weeks though, distance travelled et hoc genus omne.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 21 November 2014, 06:44:09
Thanks for the special key, samwisekoi. It should be us thanking you for running this GB.  :))

Quote
Back to the Big Ass Enter key, where is the switch?  In the same spot as an ISO Enter key?

(Attachment Link)

It looks like you could put an ISO enter and a 1x key in place of the big-ass enter. That board would look nice with Nuclear Data on it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 21 November 2014, 08:53:49
You are very welcome.  My replacements look good, and I hope everyone is happy now.

Thanks for the special key, samwisekoi. It should be us thanking you for running this GB.  :))

Quote
Back to the Big Ass Enter key, where is the switch?  In the same spot as an ISO Enter key?

(Attachment Link)

It looks like you could put an ISO enter and a 1x key in place of the big-ass enter. That board would look nice with Nuclear Data on it.

That's what I thought, and verified the sizing, then asked SP if they could find a way to make them.  Unfortunately, no one back in the day paid for such a big mold, so it isn't in their archives.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 23 November 2014, 08:17:43
The more I read this the more angry I get.

I can't believe I ever paid TJaustin and gupgup for the privilege of waiting months to get an incomplete set and even had to chase them for the tracking number when my proxy misplaced the stuff. And them I had to beg for months on geekhack to buy one key and still couldn't get my complete set and wound up selling for a loss and using my own green relegendables (which happened to be the same color) to replace.

Yes, sure, we've got to respect GB organizers, I know that, I myself am very supportive of some GBs too. Sure, they've worked hard and deserve nothing but uncritical praise. But it grates on my nerves all the same.

Only thing left to say is that at least this isn't Takaki's group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Glod on Mon, 24 November 2014, 00:12:05
Wait what?  :-\ :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 24 November 2014, 05:57:22
Are there going to be any replacements for my set when it gets here? Or will it have replacements in it already as it went out at the same time as other people's replacement caps?

I hope I don't have to ask for replacements...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Krogenar on Mon, 24 November 2014, 07:37:22
I received my replacements on Friday, plus a little gift from Sam - well done again, and with class.
If you team up a good GB organizer with SP's system, you get a good product, and relatively quickly.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 24 November 2014, 12:48:41
QUESTION:

Who participated here or in the IC thread, but in the end did not buy a set?  Please reply or send me a PM.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Mon, 24 November 2014, 13:20:40
berserkfan was verry interested. Please give him a pm if he missed your post(im guessing you have spares?). He is a good guy
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Moralless on Mon, 24 November 2014, 20:11:50
QUESTION:

Who participated here or in the IC thread, but in the end did not buy a set?  Please reply or send me a PM.

Thanks!

 - Ron | samwisekoi

Thanks for the great gift Ron :D It just came in the mail!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bullveyr on Wed, 26 November 2014, 13:00:34
Got my replacement caps today, well done.

Also, thanks Ron for the extra cap. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Wed, 26 November 2014, 13:02:08
+1 thanks alot

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Wed, 26 November 2014, 15:10:55
Anyone with previous experience with these think I should be worried at all?

Last update in the tracking:
November 7, 2014   23:22:00      PROCESSED THROUGH OFFICE OF EXCHANGE

I have received the extras that were sent out after so don't know what's taking the main set so long....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:02:49
Anyone with previous experience with these think I should be worried at all?

Last update in the tracking:
November 7, 2014   23:22:00      PROCESSED THROUGH OFFICE OF EXCHANGE

I have received the extras that were sent out after so don't know what's taking the main set so long....

Where are you?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:08:43
Anyone with previous experience with these think I should be worried at all?

Last update in the tracking:
November 7, 2014   23:22:00      PROCESSED THROUGH OFFICE OF EXCHANGE

I have received the extras that were sent out after so don't know what's taking the main set so long....

Where are you?

In the UK - I'm happy to wait its just odd the second set has got to me before the the main set. Just checking as this is my first group buy :)

Main Set:
Date   Time   Location   Status
November 7, 2014   23:22:00      PROCESSED THROUGH OFFICE OF EXCHANGE
November 1, 2014   23:18:00   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
November 1, 2014   22:20:00   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   DEPART USPS SORT FACILITY
November 1, 2014   22:02:00   90009   INTERNATIONAL DISPATCH READY
November 1, 2014   21:17:00   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
October 30, 2014   22:19:00   KENT, WA 98032   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
October 30, 2014   22:02:00   KENT, WA 98032   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
October 30, 2014   16:30:00   CUSTER, WA 98240   DEPART POST OFFICE
October 30, 2014   16:18:00   CUSTER, WA 98240   PICKED UP
October 30, 2014   14:01:00   98240   Electronic Notification



Additional/Surprise set (with Geek Hack key):
Date   Time   Location   Status
November 25, 2014   9:40 am      Delivered
November 23, 2014   3:59 pm      Processed Through Sort Facility
November 22, 2014   7:44 am   London,   Departed
November 21, 2014   7:08 pm   New York,   Departed
November 20, 2014   9:33 pm   Los Angeles,   Departed
November 20, 2014   4:17 pm   Los Angeles,   Arrived
November 20, 2014   7:50 am   ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS),   Processed Through Sort Facility
November 20, 2014   7:40 am   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   Arrived at USPS Facility
November 20, 2014   7:40 am   ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS),   Arrived at Sort Facility
November 20, 2014   3:12 am   KENT, WA 98032   Departed USPS Facility
November 19, 2014   1:07 am   KENT, WA 98032   Arrived at USPS Origin Facility
November 18, 2014   4:04 pm   CUSTER, WA 98240   Departed Post Office
November 18, 2014   3:37 pm   CUSTER, WA 98240   Picked Up

Also, am I best contacting Massdrop or SP to query?

Thanks for any info, bit of a noob at this
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:25:50
Massdrop wasn't in the loop at all. It isn't a surprise that the big package went slower, so I wouldn't worry yet.  Also, SP will only be able to see what you can see.

My guess is that it is in the hands of The Royal Mail or Her Majesty's Customs.

Anyone else in the UK have thoughts? Or their package yet?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Wed, 26 November 2014, 17:45:03
Massdrop wasn't in the loop at all. It isn't a surprise that the big package went slower, so I wouldn't worry yet.  Also, SP will only be able to see what you can see.

My guess is that it is in the hands of The Royal Mail or Her Majesty's Customs.

Anyone else in the UK have thoughts? Or their package yet?

 - Ron | samwisekoi

ah sorry! Yes of course massdrop wasnt involved :) blame it on it being late over here and also getting spam from massdrop daily haha.

I'll sit tight and see if I get any updates but thanks for the info. After playing with the surprise keys I wanna play with the whole set now!

Cheers Ron
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Arcoril on Wed, 26 November 2014, 23:52:24
Got my replacements and a cool little gift! Thanks so much for making this happen, Sam. Really loving this set!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 27 November 2014, 02:34:59
Got my fixed keys and the special gift! Thank you, Ron!

My relegendables are still being held hostage in customs, but I'll set them free today and hopefully they'll be in my hands soon :) Then there's the Rad Hard set still to come... so much Nuclear Green goodness. I'm going to make up a full mix of all the sets for a photo shoot once they arrive.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 27 November 2014, 04:18:42
So I got my replacements and my GH key yesterday (thanks Ron!), but I am still yet to get my full set.

I asked SP about this about 10 days ago and they sent me a tracking number when they realised my order had not been sent out with the rest, however that tracking number says it was delivered yesterday...the day i received my replacements...

I am confused...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: henz on Thu, 27 November 2014, 10:07:46
So I got my replacements and my GH key yesterday (thanks Ron!), but I am still yet to get my full set.

I asked SP about this about 10 days ago and they sent me a tracking number when they realised my order had not been sent out with the rest, however that tracking number says it was delivered yesterday...the day i received my replacements...

I am confused...

Anyone with previous experience with these think I should be worried at all?

Last update in the tracking:
November 7, 2014   23:22:00      PROCESSED THROUGH OFFICE OF EXCHANGE

I have received the extras that were sent out after so don't know what's taking the main set so long....

Where are you?

In the UK - I'm happy to wait its just odd the second set has got to me before the the main set. Just checking as this is my first group buy :)

Main Set:
Date   Time   Location   Status
November 7, 2014   23:22:00      PROCESSED THROUGH OFFICE OF EXCHANGE
November 1, 2014   23:18:00   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
November 1, 2014   22:20:00   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   DEPART USPS SORT FACILITY
November 1, 2014   22:02:00   90009   INTERNATIONAL DISPATCH READY
November 1, 2014   21:17:00   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
October 30, 2014   22:19:00   KENT, WA 98032   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
October 30, 2014   22:02:00   KENT, WA 98032   PROCESSED THROUGH USPS SORT FACILITY
October 30, 2014   16:30:00   CUSTER, WA 98240   DEPART POST OFFICE
October 30, 2014   16:18:00   CUSTER, WA 98240   PICKED UP
October 30, 2014   14:01:00   98240   Electronic Notification



Additional/Surprise set (with Geek Hack key):
Date   Time   Location   Status
November 25, 2014   9:40 am      Delivered
November 23, 2014   3:59 pm      Processed Through Sort Facility
November 22, 2014   7:44 am   London,   Departed
November 21, 2014   7:08 pm   New York,   Departed
November 20, 2014   9:33 pm   Los Angeles,   Departed
November 20, 2014   4:17 pm   Los Angeles,   Arrived
November 20, 2014   7:50 am   ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS),   Processed Through Sort Facility
November 20, 2014   7:40 am   LOS ANGELES, CA 90009   Arrived at USPS Facility
November 20, 2014   7:40 am   ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS),   Arrived at Sort Facility
November 20, 2014   3:12 am   KENT, WA 98032   Departed USPS Facility
November 19, 2014   1:07 am   KENT, WA 98032   Arrived at USPS Origin Facility
November 18, 2014   4:04 pm   CUSTER, WA 98240   Departed Post Office
November 18, 2014   3:37 pm   CUSTER, WA 98240   Picked Up

Also, am I best contacting Massdrop or SP to query?

Thanks for any info, bit of a noob at this
Same problemo? UK customs thinks the green goodies are some kind of drugs? :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 27 November 2014, 14:27:16
My replacements got straight through though =/

Usually you would get sent a note saying you have something to pay for for customs, but yeah, nothing yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Fri, 28 November 2014, 12:56:31
Do you think there would be interest in a JD40 kit during round 2?  Or even as a standalone mini-group buy?

-Kal
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 28 November 2014, 13:10:07
Do you think there would be interest in a JD40 kit during round 2?  Or even as a standalone mini-group buy?

-Kal

You got my interest...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 28 November 2014, 15:40:17
Do you think there would be interest in a JD40 kit during round 2?  Or even as a standalone mini-group buy?

-Kal

You got my interest...

There would have been a JD40 kit during Round *1* -- if only there was a canonical JD40 layout.  My JD40 is very different from JD's own, and probably from yours as well.  (You can find the posts if you read back eleventy-seven pages.)

This gap was mostly addressed with blanks of (I believe) all sizes.

However, if someone comes up with an official JD40 layout, it would be awesome if it could also cover the JD45.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Fri, 28 November 2014, 15:57:32
Do you think there would be interest in a JD40 kit during round 2?  Or even as a standalone mini-group buy?

-Kal

You got my interest...

There would have been a JD40 kit during Round *1* -- if only there was a canonical JD40 layout.  My JD40 is very different from JD's own, and probably from yours as well.  (You can find the posts if you read back eleventy-seven pages.)

This gap was mostly addressed with blanks of (I believe) all sizes.

However, if someone comes up with an official JD40 layout, it would be awesome if it could also cover the JD45.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


From what I can tell, most of the top layer layouts still largely follow JD's original layout or his alternate one. I know my top layer looks like the left of his original layout (win key) and the right of his alternate layout.

I think Deep Space's JD40 kit covers just about all the layouts I've seen that were even close to ANSI/ISO/DVORAK related, and probably what we could model a Nuclear one off of.

Personally, I own a bunch of blanks, and got the specialty kit to cover some of the blank spots.

Speaking of, we should talk about the Enter key in the specialty kit...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 29 November 2014, 05:09:39
Replacements arrived, along with the couple of keys that PMK sent incorrectly the first time.

Thanks for the extra, Ron, much appreciate :)

Only right SHIF T though, not the left one too?  Only asking out of curiosity, not complaining :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 29 November 2014, 09:53:49
Replacements arrived, along with the couple of keys that PMK sent incorrectly the first time.

Thanks for the extra, Ron, much appreciate :)

Only right SHIF T though, not the left one too?  Only asking out of curiosity, not complaining :D

The right shift was modified to math the left.  I don't have a set with me at the moment, or I'd look to be sure.

Speaking of, we should talk about the Enter key in the specialty kit...

No, we really shouldn't...

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Sat, 29 November 2014, 18:18:27
My replacements got straight through though =/

Usually you would get sent a note saying you have something to pay for for customs, but yeah, nothing yet.

Glad I am not the only one still waiting :) Been a month today, want to play with the keys already haha.
Hopefully its just delays and not any problems. I also have not received anything to state I need to pay for customs.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 29 November 2014, 19:22:59
My replacements got straight through though =/

Usually you would get sent a note saying you have something to pay for for customs, but yeah, nothing yet.

Glad I am not the only one still waiting :) Been a month today, want to play with the keys already haha.
Hopefully its just delays and not any problems. I also have not received anything to state I need to pay for customs.

I just wanna swap my ABS caps out on my WASD and put my lovely doubleshots on :(

I'm very interested in seeing what SA is like to type on...

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 29 November 2014, 20:26:23
My replacements got straight through though =/

Usually you would get sent a note saying you have something to pay for for customs, but yeah, nothing yet.

Glad I am not the only one still waiting :) Been a month today, want to play with the keys already haha.
Hopefully its just delays and not any problems. I also have not received anything to state I need to pay for customs.

I just wanna swap my ABS caps out on my WASD and put my lovely doubleshots on :(

I'm very interested in seeing what SA is like to type on...



I also was, and found that I actually really like it, especially with MX greens.  I like the feel of the keycaps, the profile doesn't bother me at all, and the extra weight of teh SA profile caps on the stiff greens is hardly noticeable.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Sun, 30 November 2014, 02:56:03
So what board are people putting these on?

I tried out the number pad keys on one of my G80-3700s and it looks really good. I've been trying to find a big, beige 90's style keyboard for them ever since, and I can't really find a good one...

(Yes, yes, the GH122 when it comes out will be perfect, but until then...)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 30 November 2014, 14:25:39
I also was, and found that I actually really like it, especially with MX greens.  I like the feel of the keycaps, the profile doesn't bother me at all, and the extra weight of teh SA profile caps on the stiff greens is hardly noticeable.

Mine are going onto clears, so I'm hopeful that I won't feel the difference either :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:18:36
I also was, and found that I actually really like it, especially with MX greens.  I like the feel of the keycaps, the profile doesn't bother me at all, and the extra weight of teh SA profile caps on the stiff greens is hardly noticeable.

Mine are going onto clears, so I'm hopeful that I won't feel the difference either :)

I will be putting mine on ergo clears lubed 62g. I can tell you how it fairs if you would like but I first need to get my flux remover to clean my board.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 01 December 2014, 01:22:46
I also was, and found that I actually really like it, especially with MX greens.  I like the feel of the keycaps, the profile doesn't bother me at all, and the extra weight of teh SA profile caps on the stiff greens is hardly noticeable.

Mine are going onto clears, so I'm hopeful that I won't feel the difference either :)

I will be putting mine on ergo clears lubed 62g. I can tell you how it fairs if you would like but I first need to get my flux remover to clean my board.

And I can tell you that they feel awesome on Clears and 62g ErgoClears! IMHO, they do change the feel somewhat due to the extra mass (moreso on the ErgoClears, but somewhat on stock Clears, too), but it's a good change. Makes the keys feel a little more substantial and higher quality.

I have tried OEM uv-printed ABS, SP DCS, GMK Cherry profile doubleshots, thin Cherry PBT, medium thickness OEM PBT, medium thickness OEM POM and SA profile caps on my 62g ErgoClears and SA are by far my favourite, both in terms of switch feeling and profile. GMK comes second.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AKmalamute on Mon, 01 December 2014, 02:13:01
I'm guessing this was discussed and I didn't catch it but: I tried putting a 1.5 blank onto my Ergodox, and found that since it had an LED in that switch, I couldn't use it there: if I bottomed out the switch, the LED would cause the cap to stick, and I would have to manually unstick it every time I bottomed out -- I think I could depress it far enough to actuate the switch, but bottoming out caused it to catch on the LED -- tried two such positions (third is a 1x key so it wouldn't matter).

Caps work fine elsewhere. Thoughts? Aside from desolder and use smaller LEDs I suppose.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 01 December 2014, 03:00:40
I'm guessing this was discussed and I didn't catch it but: I tried putting a 1.5 blank onto my Ergodox, and found that since it had an LED in that switch, I couldn't use it there: if I bottomed out the switch, the LED would cause the cap to stick, and I would have to manually unstick it every time I bottomed out -- I think I could depress it far enough to actuate the switch, but bottoming out caused it to catch on the LED -- tried two such positions (third is a 1x key so it wouldn't matter).

Caps work fine elsewhere. Thoughts? Aside from desolder and use smaller LEDs I suppose.

What type of LED is it? I don't have a problem with any of the SA caps on my LED boards. I'm using 3mm flangeless LED's, the same as come standard on most LED boards. My main board has "inverted" switches, with LED's on the bottom side instead of the top, so I inverted some 1.5x caps to test and they didn't stick, don't think they even touch the LED.

It could just be that LED isn't soldered in properly and sticks out or that the legs are bent a bit and it sticks out sideways?

You can file the plastic part of the LED a bit if you don't want to swap LED's, something like this:

(http://puu.sh/b1Sh6.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 December 2014, 09:28:48
I'll just leave these here:

[attach=1]

[attach=2]

:D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 02 December 2014, 09:30:36
Awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 02 December 2014, 11:57:56
@Oobly,

Brilliant!  What switches, if I may be so bold as to enquire?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 02 December 2014, 13:36:34
Awesome.


Thanks!

@Oobly,

Brilliant!  What switches, if I may be so bold as to enquire?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

62g ErgoClears (trampoline and latex modded). Still wearing them in, so haven't lubed them yet. SA keycaps feel awesome on them. Thank you for running this GB! And the prompt fix sending out the replacement caps. The orange GeekHack key is very premium :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Tue, 02 December 2014, 15:54:57

However, if someone comes up with an official JD40 layout, it would be awesome if it could also cover the JD45.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


I might see what I can do about this....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 02 December 2014, 16:03:20

However, if someone comes up with an official JD40 layout, it would be awesome if it could also cover the JD45.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


I might see what I can do about this....

I'd be game...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Tue, 02 December 2014, 17:39:09
I'm guessing this was discussed and I didn't catch it but: I tried putting a 1.5 blank onto my Ergodox, and found that since it had an LED in that switch, I couldn't use it there: if I bottomed out the switch, the LED would cause the cap to stick, and I would have to manually unstick it every time I bottomed out -- I think I could depress it far enough to actuate the switch, but bottoming out caused it to catch on the LED -- tried two such positions (third is a 1x key so it wouldn't matter).

Caps work fine elsewhere. Thoughts? Aside from desolder and use smaller LEDs I suppose.

Interesting. I have SA keycaps on both of my ErgoDoxen and I haven't noticed a sticking problem with the 1.5u caps (blank or otherwise) on the 2 switches that have LEDs in them.

I'm using the LEDs that Massdrop provided with each keyboard. The LEDs are just sitting on top of the diode slot of the keyswitch (Clears on both of my ErgoDoxen) -- I didn't do the Dremel mod to allow full access to the switch without desoldering the LED.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 02 December 2014, 20:55:27
I also was, and found that I actually really like it, especially with MX greens.  I like the feel of the keycaps, the profile doesn't bother me at all, and the extra weight of teh SA profile caps on the stiff greens is hardly noticeable.

Too FVCKING right  :thumb: .

These caps are for the heavy switches like the Greens and Greys (having one keyboard made up with these).  Just glad that we finally have a keyset that isn't too lame to look at like some of the current crap released by SP thus far.

Really looks good in any black coloured keyboard, just makes the Nuclears jump out at you with an attitude, which I like.  You've done extremely well here Sam for running this and keeping it conservative, the only way to live  :thumb: .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Tue, 02 December 2014, 21:37:29

However, if someone comes up with an official JD40 layout, it would be awesome if it could also cover the JD45.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


I might see what I can do about this....


I took a look at this tonight, and I really don't see much in the way of commonality between the JD40 and the JD45. So then I happily went back to looking at the 40.

[attach=3]
The Nuclear 40. Today.


I took JD's original layouts and colored in the keys that are covered by the base kit. This is below:

[attach=1]
Original

[attach=2]
Alternate

And that leaves me with the following JD40 kit that can handle either of those layouts:

[attach=4]

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 02 December 2014, 22:47:34

However, if someone comes up with an official JD40 layout, it would be awesome if it could also cover the JD45.

 - Ron | samwisekoi


I might see what I can do about this....


I took a look at this tonight, and I really don't see much in the way of commonality between the JD40 and the JD45. So then I happily went back to looking at the 40.

(Attachment Link)
The Nuclear 40. Today.


I took JD's original layouts and colored in the keys that are covered by the base kit. This is below:

(Attachment Link)
Original

(Attachment Link)
Alternate

And that leaves me with the following JD40 kit that can handle either of those layouts:

(Attachment Link)

What do you guys think?

I am with that, but my layout is being tweaked while I get used to it. This is day one of ownership and I am still learning the layout I created for mine. I should call mine the ADD40 or ADHD40. Teehee. I definitely am regretting not participating in the Eve GB just because I now see the value of DSA on this thing. I love my DCS and OEM profiles, but it makes it easier when all have a uniform height. I wish I could just borrow someone's Nuclear Data for a day just to see what SA feels like on this awesome piece of JDCarpentry.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 05 December 2014, 14:12:17
Soooo, my GB just got sent out for the second time apparently?

Third time lucky I guess?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: bianco on Sat, 06 December 2014, 02:35:33
got these sent to me via forwarding service
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FmG3H7SFbIM/VIK4a-VTVPI/AAAAAAAAKYw/4XOqz-6Qhqk/s1600/DSC02767.jpg)

a kind gesture, highly appreciated. thank you kind sir
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zvbym8bNEE4/VIK_oZIfwTI/AAAAAAAAKZI/MAh1Hln4QCE/s1600/DSC02756.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 06 December 2014, 02:50:13
got these sent to me via forwarding service
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a kind gesture, highly appreciated. thank you kind sir
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So THAT's what a lightsaver looks like... No wonder people like them. I might have to get one...

Now I'm wondering how good these keys would look with the Russian cyrillic alphabet on...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 06 December 2014, 09:12:53
a kind gesture, highly appreciated. thank you kind sir
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You (and everyone) are very welcome!  Thanks for participating!

Now I'm wondering how good these keys would look with the Russian cyrillic alphabet on...

Oh, man, yes!  And because these are all Row 3 profile, and thus interchangeable, we could get Cyrillic alphas made and arrange them for Russian or arrange them where they appear to belong in Latin.  (For example the Cyrrilic character "В" is pronounced "Vee", and "Н" is actually "En", but we could pretend they were B and H.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/00Russian_Alphabet_3.svg/220px-00Russian_Alphabet_3.svg.png)
Russian alphabet in capital letters.  Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet), 2014.

@katushkin, this was your idea, so now you need to do a layout!   ;D

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 06 December 2014, 09:38:02
Now I'm wondering how good these keys would look with the Russian cyrillic alphabet on...

Oh, man, yes!  And because these are all Row 3 profile, and thus interchangeable, we could get Cyrillic alphas made and arrange them for Russian or arrange them where they appear to belong in Latin.  (For example the Cyrrilic character "В" is pronounced "Vee", and "Н" is actually "En", but we could pretend they were B and H.

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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/00Russian_Alphabet_3.svg/220px-00Russian_Alphabet_3.svg.png)

Russian alphabet in capital letters.  Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet), 2014.

@katushkin, this was your idea, so now you need to do a layout!   ;D

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Oh boy. I have no idea how the cyrillic alphabet goes... Erm... D:

Would help if I had a Nuclear set to look at... ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 07 December 2014, 03:12:12
got these sent to me via forwarding service
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Those keyboards somehow look too busy to me - too many keys squashed together.  But somehow NDG makes it look just right!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Sun, 07 December 2014, 05:24:22
got these sent to me via forwarding service
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Sorry, I can't get over how good that looks. It's amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Mon, 08 December 2014, 14:08:30
Is there any interest in a follow-up kit for this that would include:
1.5u Shift, green (x2)
1.5u Return, orange
1.5u Escape, orange

Just 4 keys.  I'm trying to finish up my Ergodox and these are the 4 keys that look the most out-of-place without their legends.

I can start a formal IC thread I guess...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kalrand on Mon, 08 December 2014, 23:03:25
Has anyone tried putting these keys on a beige keyboard? How does that look?

I tossed the numpad set on a beige keypad, and that's tempting me to go try to find a beige keyboard to put these on...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AKmalamute on Mon, 08 December 2014, 23:10:00
Is there any interest in a follow-up kit for this that would include:
1.5u Shift, green (x2)
1.5u Return, orange
1.5u Escape, orange

Just 4 keys.  I'm trying to finish up my Ergodox and these are the 4 keys that look the most out-of-place without their legends.

I can start a formal IC thread I guess...

Maybe. I'm pretty much broke but I love me some (more) 1.5mods for sure.

Speaking of which: it's my turn for show and tell!

(http://i.imgur.com/KBqeEZj.jpg?1)

I made a special USB cable so that when I build a case around it, the USB cord will be detachable ... and solid!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 09 December 2014, 08:41:53
That's pretty cool AK.

What layout is that?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Tue, 09 December 2014, 08:57:23
That's pretty cool AK.

What layout is that?
Dvorak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 09 December 2014, 09:54:08
That's pretty cool AK.

What layout is that?
Dvorak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard)
I meant the switch placement, sorry.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 09 December 2014, 10:09:16
That's pretty cool AK.

What layout is that?
Dvorak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard)
I meant the switch placement, sorry.


That is a phantom with a 7bit plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 09 December 2014, 10:41:12
Is there any interest in a follow-up kit for this that would include:
1.5u Shift, green (x2)
1.5u Return, orange
1.5u Escape, orange

Just 4 keys.  I'm trying to finish up my Ergodox and these are the 4 keys that look the most out-of-place without their legends.

I can start a formal IC thread I guess...

Maybe. I'm pretty much broke but I love me some (more) 1.5mods for sure.

Speaking of which: it's my turn for show and tell!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KBqeEZj.jpg?1)


I made a special USB cable so that when I build a case around it, the USB cord will be detachable ... and solid!

I love the Vault 13 being the focal point of the spacebar. But then again, I am biased.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 09 December 2014, 13:38:22
That's pretty cool AK.

What layout is that?
Dvorak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard)
I meant the switch placement, sorry.


That is a phantom with a 7bit plate.
It's rad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ThreadKiller on Tue, 09 December 2014, 16:30:17
Is there any interest in a follow-up kit for this that would include:
1.5u Shift, green (x2)
1.5u Return, orange
1.5u Escape, orange

Just 4 keys.  I'm trying to finish up my Ergodox and these are the 4 keys that look the most out-of-place without their legends.

I can start a formal IC thread I guess...

Maybe. I'm pretty much broke but I love me some (more) 1.5mods for sure.

Speaking of which: it's my turn for show and tell!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KBqeEZj.jpg?1)


I made a special USB cable so that when I build a case around it, the USB cord will be detachable ... and solid!

So I'm not the only one in the world with a 7bit nuclear data keyboard.

(http://i.imgur.com/XmARINu.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 10 December 2014, 08:41:40
So SP have resent mine. It was processed through the office of exchange last night, so hopefully I get it today or tomorrow?

Sigh...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 10 December 2014, 10:00:10
So SP have resent mine. It was processed through the office of exchange last night, so hopefully I get it today or tomorrow?

Sigh...

Man, I am very sorry for what you've gone through.  However, I have to say that the phrase "SP have resent mine" is exactly why this new PMK system is A Good Thing.

After processing thirty thousand Retro DSA keycaps the old way, I had no option but to try and support these sort of things out of my own pocket and sets.  As a result, some sets went postal in ways I couldn't fix AND at the end of the whole experience, I did not have a complete set of Retro DSA myself.   :eek:

Anyhow, sorry to hear your tale of woe, and I hope the Royal Mail gives you your second set soon!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 10 December 2014, 16:37:17
So SP have resent mine. It was processed through the office of exchange last night, so hopefully I get it today or tomorrow?

Sigh...

Man, I am very sorry for what you've gone through.  However, I have to say that the phrase "SP have resent mine" is exactly why this new PMK system is A Good Thing.

After processing thirty thousand Retro DSA keycaps the old way, I had no option but to try and support these sort of things out of my own pocket and sets.  As a result, some sets went postal in ways I couldn't fix AND at the end of the whole experience, I did not have a complete set of Retro DSA myself.   :eek:

Anyhow, sorry to hear your tale of woe, and I hope the Royal Mail gives you your second set soon!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

+1 for PMK! :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 10 December 2014, 19:42:06
So SP have resent mine. It was processed through the office of exchange last night, so hopefully I get it today or tomorrow?

Sigh...

Man, I am very sorry for what you've gone through.  However, I have to say that the phrase "SP have resent mine" is exactly why this new PMK system is A Good Thing.

After processing thirty thousand Retro DSA keycaps the old way, I had no option but to try and support these sort of things out of my own pocket and sets.  As a result, some sets went postal in ways I couldn't fix AND at the end of the whole experience, I did not have a complete set of Retro DSA myself.   :eek:

Anyhow, sorry to hear your tale of woe, and I hope the Royal Mail gives you your second set soon!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

+1 for PMK! :D

Seriously, that is so cool of them.

Katushkin, you're probably going to wind up with 2 full sets ya lucky bastage.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 11 December 2014, 05:05:53
So SP have resent mine. It was processed through the office of exchange last night, so hopefully I get it today or tomorrow?

Sigh...

Man, I am very sorry for what you've gone through.  However, I have to say that the phrase "SP have resent mine" is exactly why this new PMK system is A Good Thing.

After processing thirty thousand Retro DSA keycaps the old way, I had no option but to try and support these sort of things out of my own pocket and sets.  As a result, some sets went postal in ways I couldn't fix AND at the end of the whole experience, I did not have a complete set of Retro DSA myself.   :eek:

Anyhow, sorry to hear your tale of woe, and I hope the Royal Mail gives you your second set soon!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

Wow, yeah that sounds awful. I don't think I could ever put myself in that position of running a GB.

But yeah, I am glad it's as easy as just saying "I haven't got anything" and them sending one straight out. But it is still damn frustrating after looking at everyone put this amazing set on their equally amazing boards and me not having anything :(

Edit: It arrived at my door, literally just now. <3
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 11 December 2014, 09:55:10
HAH!  Called it.   :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 11 December 2014, 10:43:34
HAH!  Called it.   :D

Just the one set though... :D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 12 December 2014, 17:53:56
Edit: It arrived at my door, literally just now. <3

That is why after all the suffering and anguish at being denied these caps you then appreciate them much more than if you have received them in the beginning.  Always good to finally receive the items you paid for because this whole purchasing and waiting is a gig best left for the faithful and patient because I've seen big men reduced to tears when they haven't received their goods via SP.

Now go forth and populate your keyboards with these new Green devils  8) .
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 13:53:40
HAH!  Called it.   :D

Just the one set though... :D

Where did the first set get stuck on the tracking?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 08:53:04
HAH!  Called it.   :D

Just the one set though... :D

Where did the first set get stuck on the tracking?

I have no idea. My first set were sent out with my replacements, but when the tracking info said it was delivered, I only received the replacements. So yeah.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:49:22
I have no idea. My first set were sent out with my replacements, but when the tracking info said it was delivered, I only received the replacements. So yeah.

Ah fair enough - Mine were sent but I never got the notification that customs were holding them. Seems I was too trusting that I would get something.
Thankfully SP are sending it out again as Royal Mail informed they have sent them back :S

Will be ringing Royal Mail every day they are in the UK now haha

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 15 December 2014, 15:58:57
I have no idea. My first set were sent out with my replacements, but when the tracking info said it was delivered, I only received the replacements. So yeah.

Ah fair enough - Mine were sent but I never got the notification that customs were holding them. Seems I was too trusting that I would get something.
Thankfully SP are sending it out again as Royal Mail informed they have sent them back :S

Will be ringing Royal Mail every day they are in the UK now haha

Royal Mail are ****ers like that. I got sent a package from mk.com last year that RM just sent back without telling me, just because the last letter of my postcode was missing.

They are better than Yodel though, I have to admit. So glad they don't do INTL shipping jesus...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bakgrund on Thu, 01 January 2015, 14:11:50
I'm really interested in the parent set + the data green set + orange if I get refunded for shipping, but the shipping is so expensive so I wondered how I request a refund for the duplicate shipping cost?

Edit: ****, nvm just realised i posted in the wrong topic, sorry.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Wed, 07 January 2015, 02:31:27
 :D :D :D YAY! set came through after SP recent it without question. Very good service  :thumb:

I do have one issue with the keys though and looking for some advise if anything has had a similar issue?
On the left hand side of the keyboard the ctrl, shift, caps and tab are too tight on the side of the case.

I have taken a video to help explain and some pics against the standard keys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkdRYZkfC4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkdRYZkfC4)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7493/15600817903_fbda7f4c95_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/16033155818_9cbe987615_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7497/16194780896_7b39a069e3_b.jpg)

It seems the new caps are slightly wider than my filco ones and I am guessing the mould signature plastics use is standard so I assume I have to 'make' it fit somehow.
Any suggestions? Can only really think of slightly sanding down the keys on the one edge but never done much like this before so open to suggestions.

Keyboard is an ISO Filco Majestouch-2 Tenkeyless.

Thanks,

Ash
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 January 2015, 03:38:22
Filco seems to be very tight with their tolerances, quite a few people have had issues, although usually with Shift, Ctrl or Alt rubbing against the inside of the case.

Unless anyone else has a suggestion, your only option might be to sand down the side of the keycap slightly.

On the up side, most of what you sand down will be hidden by the side of the case anyway, it shouldn't be visible when using the keyboard normally.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ash27 on Wed, 07 January 2015, 15:05:16
ah fair enough  :thumb: Going to have to be very careful with this I think  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 08 January 2015, 23:15:35
Filco seems to be very tight with their tolerances, quite a few people have had issues, although usually with Shift, Ctrl or Alt rubbing against the inside of the case.

Unless anyone else has a suggestion, your only option might be to sand down the side of the keycap slightly.

Yep you have to sand down the Shift, Tab, Caps Lock and Ctrl keys because Filco has little space for these SA wonders (or for any SA key-set).

You first use 600, then 800 and finally polish off your work with 1200 grit, wet & dry it'll look so smooth no one can tell you sanded off anything.  Although you are then stuck with a key-set that will only look good in a Filco Keyboard and no where else.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 09 January 2015, 08:00:03
Filco seems to be very tight with their tolerances, quite a few people have had issues, although usually with Shift, Ctrl or Alt rubbing against the inside of the case.

Unless anyone else has a suggestion, your only option might be to sand down the side of the keycap slightly.

On the up side, most of what you sand down will be hidden by the side of the case anyway, it shouldn't be visible when using the keyboard normally.

No!!!

Don't attack the caps, it's not their fault! It's the Filco that's to blame, so sand away the inside edges of the case in the areas that cause the trouble or buy a new case. Most aftermarket TKL cases fit Filco. Then you won't have problems with any caps and your Nuclear Data caps remain pristine and hold their resale value.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 09 January 2015, 09:48:11
Filco seems to be very tight with their tolerances, quite a few people have had issues, although usually with Shift, Ctrl or Alt rubbing against the inside of the case.

Unless anyone else has a suggestion, your only option might be to sand down the side of the keycap slightly.

On the up side, most of what you sand down will be hidden by the side of the case anyway, it shouldn't be visible when using the keyboard normally.

No!!!

Don't attack the caps, it's not their fault! It's the Filco that's to blame, so sand away the inside edges of the case in the areas that cause the trouble or buy a new case. Most aftermarket TKL cases fit Filco. Then you won't have problems with any caps and your Nuclear Data caps remain pristine and hold their resale value.

^ This.

However, it is true that one of the qualities of the SA keycaps is robustness.  So they are indeed thicker-walled than your OEM caps.  Also, the sides are contoured differently, and may have interference where your OEM caps didn't.

Does anyone else have these 'caps on a Filco TKL?


 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Sun, 11 January 2015, 16:09:28
Cross-post from the Ergodox thread...

Here's Nuclear Data looking RetroPimp on my 'Dox:

(http://i.imgur.com/L0V2ULs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Aa6xV8z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7NpzpfA.jpg)

A few more here:  http://imgur.com/a/G6eHg

Thanks Ron!   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 11 January 2015, 16:13:00
^^ That is hot.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 12 January 2015, 04:27:31
No!!!

Don't attack the caps, it's not their fault! It's the Filco that's to blame, so sand away the inside edges of the case in the areas that cause the trouble or buy a new case. Most aftermarket TKL cases fit Filco. Then you won't have problems with any caps and your Nuclear Data caps remain pristine and hold their resale value.

Remember that Filco only has trouble fitting these caps or any SA profile series into TKL models. 

I have an all Blue 104 Filco and my PuLSE set fits beautifully without any sanding required, so go forth and buy a few 104's because it'll support all SP's key-sets no matter the profile made.

Also need to let this individual know that simply buying them to then re-sell them later, isn't a real key-cap enthusiast but only making the effort in fooling everyone in believing his so-called addiction.  A TRUE addict NEVER sells anything in his life, it remains with them forever or until they pass away from this mortal coil.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 12 January 2015, 10:04:35
No!!!

Don't attack the caps, it's not their fault! It's the Filco that's to blame, so sand away the inside edges of the case in the areas that cause the trouble or buy a new case. Most aftermarket TKL cases fit Filco. Then you won't have problems with any caps and your Nuclear Data caps remain pristine and hold their resale value.

Remember that Filco only has trouble fitting these caps or any SA profile series into TKL models. 


Hence why more people should buy Duckys, hehe.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 12 January 2015, 10:14:40
No!!!

Don't attack the caps, it's not their fault! It's the Filco that's to blame, so sand away the inside edges of the case in the areas that cause the trouble or buy a new case. Most aftermarket TKL cases fit Filco. Then you won't have problems with any caps and your Nuclear Data caps remain pristine and hold their resale value.

Remember that Filco only has trouble fitting these caps or any SA profile series into TKL models. 


Hence why more people should buy Duckys, hehe.

Oddly enough, I have a couple of sets, and one of them is in fact on a Ducky 108.  However, they look better on the normally ugly CM Storm 104.  Somehow, all of that ugly Gamer plastic fits the retro look.  Sort of retro-mechanoid.

I think they would look best in a giant beige 80's keyboard.  Are there any such things with MX switches?  Sort of an MX Model M?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: engicoder on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:08:49
I think they would look best in a giant beige 80's keyboard.  Are there any such things with MX switches?  Sort of an MX Model M?

Or maybe an M-122...maybe someone should start a project to make a 122 based MX board  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 12 January 2015, 11:37:53
I think they would look best in a giant beige 80's keyboard.  Are there any such things with MX switches?  Sort of an MX Model M?

Or maybe an M-122...maybe someone should start a project to make a 122 based MX board  ;D

not sure if serious :p

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62003.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62003.0)

i wish my dca irma board worked it is gloriously large
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 12 January 2015, 20:13:42
: We interrupt this forum to bring you the following important message regarding a group buy that is ending soon :

Out of the Vault: Series II (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/out-of-the-vault-inspired-by-fallout-series-ii-nuka-cola-and-vault-101-sa-row-3-double-shot/) has now tipped on all Child Deals, including both Nuclear Data Green and Nuclear Data Orange just to let everyone know, and we are now < 3 days from putting this one in the history books. Also, to those interested, you don't have to buy the main set to purchase the Green or Orange Sets (or Rad Hard Yellow for that matter).

: We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum thread :
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 19:57:26
I'd be willing to buy a base set if anyone is selling!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 30 January 2015, 21:14:11
Most of the people Jere has more than just a base set I'd say.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 21:22:16
Most of the people Jere has more than just a base set I'd say.
yes but I'm only really after it 'cause my board is 60%.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 30 January 2015, 21:23:44
Most of the people Jere has more than just a base set I'd say.
yes but I'm only really after it 'cause my board is 60%.

One day, you may have another keyboard. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hking0036 on Fri, 30 January 2015, 22:00:04
Most of the people Jere has more than just a base set I'd say.
yes but I'm only really after it 'cause my board is 60%.

One day, you may have another keyboard. :)
mayhaps. In the meantime though I'm just in need of the base.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: TheOpposition on Sat, 21 February 2015, 23:15:58
Cross-post from the Ergodox thread...

Here's Nuclear Data looking RetroPimp on my 'Dox:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/L0V2ULs.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Aa6xV8z.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/7NpzpfA.jpg)


A few more here:  http://imgur.com/a/G6eHg

Thanks Ron!   :cool:

Looks incredicle.

When someone decides to part with a set, please look me up. I'll gladly overpay..
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: motherbrain on Sun, 22 February 2015, 13:42:02
any chance there will be a second run of the nuclear data green base set?  i missed out and would like to buy one too!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:15:41
any chance there will be a second run of the nuclear data green base set?  i missed out and would like to buy one too!
Just keep an eye out and look around, you can find it somewhere in time.
I got one just recently, for just under $80.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: motherbrain on Sun, 22 February 2015, 17:28:09
Quote
Just keep an eye out and look around, you can find it somewhere in time.
I got one just recently, for just under $80.

thanks for the advice--i will keep an eye out.  if anyone wants to part with a base set, i'd definitely be interested.  appreciate it...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hking0036 on Sun, 22 February 2015, 19:22:59
Quote
Just keep an eye out and look around, you can find it somewhere in time.
I got one just recently, for just under $80.

thanks for the advice--i will keep an eye out.  if anyone wants to part with a base set, i'd definitely be interested.  appreciate it...
Yep. your best bets are classifieds here and /r/mechmarket but a word of warning, don't let anyone try to oversell you unless you're really that desperate (someone tried to sell me a set for $150).
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: motherbrain on Sun, 22 February 2015, 22:46:31
Quote
Just keep an eye out and look around, you can find it somewhere in time.
I got one just recently, for just under $80.

thanks for the advice--i will keep an eye out.  if anyone wants to part with a base set, i'd definitely be interested.  appreciate it...
Yep. your best bets are classifieds here and /r/mechmarket but a word of warning, don't let anyone try to oversell you unless you're really that desperate (someone tried to sell me a set for $150).

 i'm too poor to spend $150 on keycaps :))  and unfortunately, i can't post in classifieds for a couple of mos since i'm new here.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: TheOpposition on Mon, 23 February 2015, 23:47:41
Quote
Just keep an eye out and look around, you can find it somewhere in time.
I got one just recently, for just under $80.

thanks for the advice--i will keep an eye out.  if anyone wants to part with a base set, i'd definitely be interested.  appreciate it...
Yep. your best bets are classifieds here and /r/mechmarket but a word of warning, don't let anyone try to oversell you unless you're really that desperate (someone tried to sell me a set for $150).

A Pulse Set just went for $271.00 on Ebay tonight. I bid on it at $150.00
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 24 February 2015, 04:59:45
A Pulse Set just went for $271.00 on Ebay tonight. I bid on it at $150.00

Welcome to the FREE market and everyone has access to it.  For the Seller if you want your investment to pay a good dividend for you jump on Ebay  :thumb: .

For the LAZY ones who forgot or couldn't be bothered to buy into the original Group Buy then they do not deserve anyone's pity or generosity, skin them alive and don't listen to their made up excuses and lies, because I think I've heard thousands over the years here at Geekhack.

For the seller, do not be gullible or become their susceptible fool.  Trust me they will buy it off you at below cost and then sell it later for a huge profit, it really happens here on this forum.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: motherbrain on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:16:15
A Pulse Set just went for $271.00 on Ebay tonight. I bid on it at $150.00

Welcome to the FREE market and everyone has access to it.  For the Seller if you want your investment to pay a good dividend for you jump on Ebay  :thumb: .

For the LAZY ones who forgot or couldn't be bothered to buy into the original Group Buy then they do not deserve anyone's pity or generosity, skin them alive and don't listen to their made up excuses and lies, because I think I've heard thousands over the years here at Geekhack.

For the seller, do not be gullible or become their susceptible fool.  Trust me they will buy it off you at below cost and then sell it later for a huge profit, it really happens here on this forum.

i'm not asking anyone for favors, i just really like this set of keycaps.

i discovered the Nuclear group buy last week--heck, i didn't even know what a group buy was up until last week when i discussed the concept with 00zero.  i bought my first cherry keyboard last week and just want to get some sweet keycaps for it.  i definitely won't miss out on the next design i see that i like.

just a piece of advice, elrick.  some of us are actually new to the mech world and are cautiously entering this community.  we don't appreciate insinuations of being lazy/liars. 

to everyone else, i apologize if i posted out-of-turn or hijacked this thread--i didn't mean to cause any drama.  i'm new here so please let me know if i do something wrong.  i've learned A TON about mechanical keyboards through this site and i'm excited to actually get involved in the community rather than just serving as a casual lurker :) 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:46:54
A Pulse Set just went for $271.00 on Ebay tonight. I bid on it at $150.00

HOLY crap.  Wow.  That's insane for an SP set, even SA.   :confused:


to everyone else, i apologize if i posted out-of-turn or hijacked this thread--i didn't mean to cause any drama.  i'm new here so please let me know if i do something wrong.  i've learned A TON about mechanical keyboards through this site and i'm excited to actually get involved in the community rather than just serving as a casual lurker :) 

You're good (welcome to GH, btw!).  Elrick is very outspoken and energized about these things, so take everything he says with a bucket of salt (unless it's one of his comments about GMK).   :thumb:   I love you Elrick, just need to set the newbies straight on your preaching.   :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:28:01
Elrick is a keyboard (and SA Profile especially) evangelist.  Don't take anything he says personally, or very seriously for that matter.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: motherbrain on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:37:11
Elrick is a keyboard (and SA Profile especially) evangelist.  Don't take anything he says personally, or very seriously for that matter.  ;)
sorry i didn't pickup on that.  I'll try not to be so **** sensitive next time :)   ...preach on elrick
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:09:33
Elrick is a keyboard (and SA Profile especially) evangelist.  Don't take anything he says personally, or very seriously for that matter.  ;)
sorry i didn't pickup on that.  I'll try not to be so **** sensitive next time :)   ...preach on elrick

As usual I didn't read back into this section to find out who you were BUT there are some who play the game of missing out on a set then acquiring one off someone here then surprise, surprise ends up later in the Classifieds section being sold for twice as much as he bought it for.

This is Geekhack Central so relax because there will ALWAYS be more SA key-caps (both Full contoured and all Row-3) varieties so you can pick them up now or later.  Always be honest, never lie and above all else pursue the love of the SA Profile because there is nothing better coming out of SP these days.  Of course still buy-into any GMK Group Buy, for the full authentic taste of German Quality perfection made for ANY CherryMX based keyboard  :thumb: .

Now I'll get off my Soap Box..........
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hking0036 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:19:07
Elrick is a keyboard (and SA Profile especially) evangelist.  Don't take anything he says personally, or very seriously for that matter.  ;)
sorry i didn't pickup on that.  I'll try not to be so **** sensitive next time :)   ...preach on elrick

As usual I didn't read back into this section to find out who you were BUT there are some who play the game of missing out on a set then acquiring one off someone here then surprise, surprise ends up later in the Classifieds section being sold for twice as much as he bought it for.

This is Geekhack Central so relax because there will ALWAYS be more SA key-caps (both Full contoured and all Row-3) varieties so you can pick them up now or later.  Always be honest, never lie and above all else pursue the love of the SA Profile because there is nothing better coming out of SP these days.  Of course still buy-into any GMK Group Buy, for the full authentic taste of German Quality perfection made for ANY CherryMX based keyboard  :thumb: .

Now I'll get off my Soap Box..........
Can confirm SA is love.
got this set, now I know the glory of tall spherical happyness.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: motherbrain on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:33:44
Now I'll get off my Soap Box..........

elrick, after reading your posts in the xwing interest check thread i'm convinced we could be BFFs.  and that matt3o definitely needs to make the keyset.  apologies for getting my undies in a wad.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:55:43
Now I'll get off my Soap Box..........

elrick, after reading your posts in the xwing interest check thread i'm convinced we could be BFFs.  and that matt3o definitely needs to make the keyset.  apologies for getting my undies in a wad.

~whispers of SA profile Retro set coming soon~

~Stay tuned~
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 26 February 2015, 02:59:27
~whispers of SA profile Retro set coming soon~

~Stay tuned~

Oh DAMN, I'm getting that ultra tight feeling again.........  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 02 March 2015, 11:19:27
Oh DAMN, I'm getting that ultra tight feeling again.........  :-[

Reminiscent of TP4...lol
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 02 March 2015, 22:14:50
Elrick is a keyboard (and SA Profile especially) evangelist.  Don't take anything he says personally, or very seriously for that matter.  ;)
sorry i didn't pickup on that.  I'll try not to be so **** sensitive next time :)   ...preach on elrick

As usual I didn't read back into this section to find out who you were BUT there are some who play the game of missing out on a set then acquiring one off someone here then surprise, surprise ends up later in the Classifieds section being sold for twice as much as he bought it for.

This is Geekhack Central so relax because there will ALWAYS be more SA key-caps (both Full contoured and all Row-3) varieties so you can pick them up now or later.  Always be honest, never lie and above all else pursue the love of the SA Profile because there is nothing better coming out of SP these days.  Of course still buy-into any GMK Group Buy, for the full authentic taste of German Quality perfection made for ANY CherryMX based keyboard  :thumb: .

Now I'll get off my Soap Box..........

SA profile are essential to me. I use them every few seconds. But only as thumb keys, heh. The rest of my keys have lower profiles.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 03 March 2015, 01:33:59
Elrick is a keyboard (and SA Profile especially) evangelist.  Don't take anything he says personally, or very seriously for that matter.  ;)
sorry i didn't pickup on that.  I'll try not to be so **** sensitive next time :)   ...preach on elrick

As usual I didn't read back into this section to find out who you were BUT there are some who play the game of missing out on a set then acquiring one off someone here then surprise, surprise ends up later in the Classifieds section being sold for twice as much as he bought it for.

This is Geekhack Central so relax because there will ALWAYS be more SA key-caps (both Full contoured and all Row-3) varieties so you can pick them up now or later.  Always be honest, never lie and above all else pursue the love of the SA Profile because there is nothing better coming out of SP these days.  Of course still buy-into any GMK Group Buy, for the full authentic taste of German Quality perfection made for ANY CherryMX based keyboard  :thumb: .

Now I'll get off my Soap Box..........

SA profile are essential to me. I use them every few seconds. But only as thumb keys, heh. The rest of my keys have lower profiles.

Hehe.. I do the opposite. I use them on everything except thumbs...

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But that's just because of the angle on the thumb keys. Will be sorted in the next prototype :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Thu, 15 September 2016, 15:04:10
I just saw this and it made me smile.  I think it's awesome you guys have made a set of keycaps based on this terminal!  I have a couple more colorful keyboards in my collection, I'll try and post some photos.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 16 November 2016, 05:15:31
hint hint

we will run this again :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 16 November 2016, 06:25:34
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Wuutttt... Now I need to rearrange my priorities...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 16 November 2016, 06:31:11
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Estimated shipping date according to PMK: Q1 2018... If we order NOW :p :p

No, but seriously, I hope that either PMK gets their **** together or we find someone else that can make SA caps.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 16 November 2016, 06:40:30
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Estimated shipping date according to PMK: Q1 2018... If we order NOW :p :p

No, but seriously, I hope that either PMK gets their **** together or we find someone else that can make SA caps.

They have their junk together, they are busy with more than just molding custom key sets for Group Buys. They have corporate orders too, like this Filco set:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:56:27
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Estimated shipping date according to PMK: Q1 2018... If we order NOW :p :p

No, but seriously, I hope that either PMK gets their **** together or we find someone else that can make SA caps.

They have their junk together, they are busy with more than just molding custom key sets for Group Buys. They have corporate orders too, like this Filco set:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

If their order backlog is 8-10 months (or more) on the SA tooling then it's hard to make the case that they have it together.  I mean, come on...

When the demand is this high for this long and shows no sign of stopping, basic economics says you either increase your manufacturing capacity or you lose business to competitors.  To their credit, maybe SP is expanding to meet the demand.  But they need to communicate that or just hurry the hell up.  The fact that they're filling big corporate orders isn't an excuse -- the corporate money is just as good as ours (though their orders might be bigger) and I guarantee they're having to wait longer too.  That's not acceptable.

On topic: Nice to see Nuclear Data making a return.  It's a great set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:58:42
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Estimated shipping date according to PMK: Q1 2018... If we order NOW :p :p

No, but seriously, I hope that either PMK gets their **** together or we find someone else that can make SA caps.

They have their junk together, they are busy with more than just molding custom key sets for Group Buys. They have corporate orders too, like this Filco set:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

If their order backlog is 8-10 months (or more) on the SA tooling then it's hard to make the case that they have it together.  I mean, come on...

When the demand is this high for this long and shows no sign of stopping, basic economics says you either increase your manufacturing capacity or you lose business to competitors.  To their credit, maybe SP is expanding to meet the demand.  But they need to communicate that or just hurry the hell up.  The fact that they're filling big corporate orders isn't an excuse -- the corporate money is just as good as ours (though their orders might be bigger) and I guarantee they're having to wait longer too.  That's not acceptable.

I must concur...perhaps you are right. Maybe they are out of space for new machinery
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: poolside on Wed, 16 November 2016, 18:40:38
hint hint

we will run this again :)

:eek: Exciting!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 16 November 2016, 18:42:49
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Estimated shipping date according to PMK: Q1 2018... If we order NOW :p :p

No, but seriously, I hope that either PMK gets their **** together or we find someone else that can make SA caps.

They have their junk together, they are busy with more than just molding custom key sets for Group Buys. They have corporate orders too, like this Filco set:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2076

Oh man, top right justified Gorton type face.  Tried to do this with my first attempt at a group buy...  Looks so good.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 16 November 2016, 18:52:33
Wow. This was the first GB I ever got in on Geekhack. I'm glad it's being run again!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 16 November 2016, 23:04:19
hint hint

we will run this again :)

He's ALIVE!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 17 November 2016, 00:20:18
someone kick me when it goes live xD
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: fanpeople on Thu, 17 November 2016, 00:28:54
ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS. **** now im going to have to get an mx board maybe a dox?

**** YES THIS IS LIKE THE ONLY MX KEY SET THAT I EVER WANTED
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 17 November 2016, 08:51:33
I thought I'd never be able to get this set with it rarely showing up on the resale market (and even then, for a princely sum), but now my hope has returned!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: PCG on Thu, 17 November 2016, 11:33:41
Amazing!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Thu, 17 November 2016, 11:36:23
Great news guys, count me in on the next GB :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Thu, 17 November 2016, 19:38:18
WOOOOO!!!! I'm in too! I already have the nuclear data (OAS and VV) relegendables on my Access IS ready to go!  :thumb:

Will there be an ortholinear add-on kit this time around? I really need those 1U modifiers to make it all work as a cohesive set.

Also... it's going to be uniform row three again for maximum compatibility, right? If it's fully sculpted I think I'll cry...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 18 November 2016, 03:34:11
yes it will be uniform r3
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 18 November 2016, 03:37:39
yes it will be uniform r3

Leta do it already. I AM PUMPED!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 18 November 2016, 06:13:11
ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS. **** now im going to have to get an mx board maybe a dox?

**** YES THIS IS LIKE THE ONLY MX KEY SET THAT I EVER WANTED
OH YES!!! so glad I didn't sell my ergodox!!! I'll finally have a reason to use it!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ubermike on Fri, 18 November 2016, 13:43:48
hint hint

we will run this again :)

YES! This keyset I've wanted more than any other. Do you think it will run through PMK or as a group buy here/MD?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Fri, 18 November 2016, 15:35:34
yes it will be uniform r3

Awesome!! Thank you!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 18 November 2016, 16:11:45
hint hint

we will run this again :)

That sounds like great news!  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 18 November 2016, 17:50:32
This time with international kit?

Anyway, this is a great keyset. Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: feediko on Fri, 18 November 2016, 18:48:11
This time with international kit?

Anyway, this is a great keyset. Looking forward to this!

this. please.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 20 November 2016, 03:11:46
This is a great set!

If there's any extras over and above what was in the original set, can someone highlight them please :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: donjoan666 on Mon, 21 November 2016, 18:03:02
Will this come back again? Idk why I skipped this when I saw this in PMK. What a dumb?.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jedi on Mon, 21 November 2016, 21:33:31
Will this come back again? Idk why I skipped this when I saw this in PMK. What a dumb?.

I could be wrong, but this set has been out of stock on PMK for well over a year more like two.  Now just waiting for the good man to tell us when to open the coffers. :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 23 November 2016, 21:27:46
yes it will be uniform r3

Wallets at the ready lads!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: nomaded on Wed, 23 November 2016, 23:38:40
Glad to see this come back. Been loving my set on my ErgoDox at work.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Tue, 20 December 2016, 17:11:52
Any developments on when this set will drop? I'm hoping it will be the next SA set in line after Dasher/Dancer finishes up, but I think I might just be a little too optimistic.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: PCG on Tue, 20 December 2016, 17:45:10
Everytime someone replies here, I think it's about to go live again! Damn you Bob :D! <3
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 20 December 2016, 17:58:06
Typing on them now.  They are lovely on MX Whites and MX Greens.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.


Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Tue, 20 December 2016, 19:36:33
Everytime someone replies here, I think it's about to go live again! Damn you Bob :D! <3

Sorry PCG - it's just me being impatient  ;D

I held off on posting here as long as I could, but I just have to know if there's any update  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 21 December 2016, 02:12:09
I got back from SP and they are over-booked. Nuclear Data will be done again next year, but don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 21 December 2016, 11:36:21
I got back from SP and they are over-booked. Nuclear Data will be done again next year, but don't hold your breath.

Well that's a good sign for the long-term availability of custom keycaps, anyhow.

Did you do the specials and kits, or did they?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Wed, 21 December 2016, 20:08:36
I got back from SP and they are over-booked. Nuclear Data will be done again next year, but don't hold your breath.

Thanks Matt3o! I'll do my best to wait patiently for news of the drop next year. Have a good Christmas/New Year  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: longtran1568 on Mon, 30 January 2017, 06:39:29
hint hint

we will run this again :)


Any news today (January 2017)?  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: PriusProblems on Tue, 31 January 2017, 01:29:05
This time with international kit?

Anyway, this is a great keyset. Looking forward to this!

this. please.
Me too thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 31 January 2017, 02:16:17
saying that SP is overbooked is an understatement....
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 31 January 2017, 02:27:45
saying that SP is overbooked is an understatement....

Hi Matt3o, I think you're aware of SA keycaps from China right? They are running a GB on Taobao right now, shipping February. Not sure what we can do but I don't think SP monopoly on this is a good thing.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 31 January 2017, 06:13:22
if you want to support this community, you buy the original one, that being said I'm totally fine if you want to buy from China.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 31 January 2017, 06:17:22
if you want to support this community, you buy the original one, that being said I'm totally fine if you want to buy from China.

Of course I would support an original author like you. But since SP holds monopoly over SA keycaps and their priority for commercial clients over GB like us make the wait unbearable.

If only we had another reliable SA manufacturer.


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Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 31 January 2017, 09:56:34
There were once many alternative suppliers for full-height "SA-style" keycaps.  Made in the USA, too.  Then everyone decided that $5 was the right amount to spend on the only part of a computer that requires tactile feedback all day. And so all but very few of the US manufacturers were driven out of the country or out of business.

The fact that SP survived at all is wonderful.  And the fact that now they have enough business to keep the factory running is fantastic.  This was not the case when Nuclear Data Green was first produced.  Some of the molds had to be found in nooks and crannies as very few people were interested in the original designs.

So, as people who appreciate the sweet goodness of proper keyboards, we should celebrate SP's success.  And perhaps pause to remember that we are asking a custom plastic molding factory with decades of history to stop what it is doing and satisfy our immediate cravings.  Go try to get Unicomp (née IBM Keyboards) to do that for you!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-udeRhU22cpk/TNrURTKzZyI/AAAAAAAABEk/GfUlYqXOOuo/s1280/DSC_0168.JPG)
Some GeekHack history from 07 March 2014. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640)

Such lovely things, now shiny and new, are worth the wait.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 31 January 2017, 10:08:20
I'll wait for this even if it is finish in 2020..:D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: longtran1568 on Tue, 31 January 2017, 10:12:46
Pardon my craving Mr. Gamgee


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Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 31 January 2017, 10:54:52
Amen, samwisekoi!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 31 January 2017, 11:47:34
There were once many alternative suppliers for full-height "SA-style" keycaps.  Made in the USA, too.  Then everyone decided that $5 was the right amount to spend on the only part of a computer that requires tactile feedback all day. And so all but very few of the US manufacturers were driven out of the country or out of business.

The fact that SP survived at all is wonderful.  And the fact that now they have enough business to keep the factory running is fantastic.  This was not the case when Nuclear Data Green was first produced.  Some of the molds had to be found in nooks and crannies as very few people were interested in the original designs.

So, as people who appreciate the sweet goodness of proper keyboards, we should celebrate SP's success.  And perhaps pause to remember that we are asking a custom plastic molding factory with decades of history to stop what it is doing and satisfy our immediate cravings.  Go try to get Unicomp (née IBM Keyboards) to do that for you!

Show Image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-udeRhU22cpk/TNrURTKzZyI/AAAAAAAABEk/GfUlYqXOOuo/s1280/DSC_0168.JPG)

Some GeekHack history from 07 March 2014. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640)

Such lovely things, now shiny and new, are worth the wait.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

Very well said. I found a set on the market, bought them.  Loved them, then sold them...  I don't know why.  I miss that green shine.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: mecano on Sun, 12 February 2017, 09:50:37
Flag for the Radioactive Kit  ;D

Ahem I guess you are aware that most (if not all) of SP's SA tooling is coming from France after competition killed the last company here? There was even a case of sabotage of the repurchase of the company that leaded to the definitive closing and selling of the tooling.
Sometimes it sounds like North Korea propaganda here :)) I agree to the rest, SP are doing great with the community, which could also benefit from concurrence and faster production.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: dantan on Sun, 12 February 2017, 14:01:41
Great, just eagerly waiting like everyone. But 2018...  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 16 February 2017, 11:32:16
Just wanted to say that the set of keycaps I got from the original GB are on a very short list of sets I will never sell.  They are amazing.  I am patiently awaiting the chance to get another set, no matter how long it takes. 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SmrkngRvng on Wed, 01 March 2017, 10:07:15
I cannot wait for this to drop! Definitely going to be picking it up whenever it does.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: phinix on Thu, 30 March 2017, 09:50:17
I got back from SP and they are over-booked. Nuclear Data will be done again next year, but don't hold your breath.

Thats awesome! I always wanted this set.

Will this go on Massdrop? I know we need to wait but will it?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 March 2017, 09:52:20
I got back from SP and they are over-booked. Nuclear Data will be done again next year, but don't hold your breath.

Thats awesome! I always wanted this set.

Will this go on Massdrop? I know we need to wait but will it?

I believe @samwisekoi mentioned SP was just going to produce sets to stock on their own webstore eventually if they ever get caught up from the backlog of group buy SA sets.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: phinix on Thu, 30 March 2017, 20:21:45
****.. that means no ISO kits etc...  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Thu, 30 March 2017, 21:20:51
****.. that means no ISO kits etc...  :'(

It does? They seem to have been getting better lately in what they provide in the store - for example the range of options for DSA dye-subbed seem quite good, so there might be hope that they'll just make all the previously produced kits if they do this. I'd love to see a day where they produce all their key sets with those level of options, and can actually keep them reasonably well stocked. My concern about Nuclear Data being made available through the store rather than via a group buy is that they'll sell out too quickly. At least group buys usually last a while and don't require you to be online at exactly the right time or miss out. Fingers crossed the round 2 group buy goes ahead...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: phinix on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:19:20
****.. that means no ISO kits etc...  :'(

It does? They seem to have been getting better lately in what they provide in the store - for example the range of options for DSA dye-subbed seem quite good, so there might be hope that they'll just make all the previously produced kits if they do this. I'd love to see a day where they produce all their key sets with those level of options, and can actually keep them reasonably well stocked. My concern about Nuclear Data being made available through the store rather than via a group buy is that they'll sell out too quickly. At least group buys usually last a while and don't require you to be online at exactly the right time or miss out. Fingers crossed the round 2 group buy goes ahead...

They don't do ISO kits for their SA in shop.

Like ICE set, industrials etc.
No ISO :(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Tue, 18 April 2017, 19:26:12
They don't do ISO kits for their SA in shop.

Like ICE set, industrials etc.
No ISO :(

I'm starting to move from concerns into conjecture, but they wouldn't run Nuclear Data as a dye-subbed set (like Ice or Industrial) given the white legends. It'd have to be a full double shot set, similar to how they have recently restocked DSA Dolch. I just don't imagine there being many kit options, blanks, nor relegendables for Nuclear Data if it's handled this way.

On the bright side DSA Dolch still appears to be in stock, which might mean those who want it may have a chance at purchasing Nuclear Data if it's offered through the store, but then with so few kit options and a much lower demand on DSA I suppose it's not all that surprising that Dolch is still in stock.

Aware that I've fallen into the rumor-mill, would anyone care to pull me out with some hard facts?  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: phinix on Wed, 26 April 2017, 09:34:50
Still no news on this one?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: robotsokk on Sat, 03 June 2017, 12:11:18
There were once many alternative suppliers for full-height "SA-style" keycaps.  Made in the USA, too.  Then everyone decided that $5 was the right amount to spend on the only part of a computer that requires tactile feedback all day. And so all but very few of the US manufacturers were driven out of the country or out of business.

The fact that SP survived at all is wonderful.  And the fact that now they have enough business to keep the factory running is fantastic.  This was not the case when Nuclear Data Green was first produced.  Some of the molds had to be found in nooks and crannies as very few people were interested in the original designs.

So, as people who appreciate the sweet goodness of proper keyboards, we should celebrate SP's success.  And perhaps pause to remember that we are asking a custom plastic molding factory with decades of history to stop what it is doing and satisfy our immediate cravings.  Go try to get Unicomp (née IBM Keyboards) to do that for you!

Show Image
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-udeRhU22cpk/TNrURTKzZyI/AAAAAAAABEk/GfUlYqXOOuo/s1280/DSC_0168.JPG)

Some GeekHack history from 07 March 2014. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640)

Such lovely things, now shiny and new, are worth the wait.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my GH-122 keyboard.

I stumbled across this post while skimming through this thread (huge fan of the set). I felt compelled to create an account here just to quote this post and say -- so very well put. Thanks for sharing those thoughts.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: bun on Sun, 04 June 2017, 07:09:00
Then everyone decided that $5 was the right amount to spend on the only part of a computer that requires tactile feedback all day.

I will never understand this. As long as I have lived I have always paid extra for quality on the understanding that it will save money in the long term while giving a better quality of life when using the item purchased. Personally, I have yet to experience a contradiction to this rule.

I stumbled across this post while skimming through this thread (huge fan of the set). I felt compelled to create an account here just to quote this post and say -- so very well put. Thanks for sharing those thoughts.

I too am a huge fan of this set. It was one of the first that caught my eye when I first started looking into keysets. I have an extreme need to pair this set with an matching green aluminium case and some nice green switches. Bonus points if the case weighs enough to put your back out when you lift it. Double bonus points if you pair it with an ancient green screen CRT and a TTY only linux environment.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: robotsokk on Sun, 04 June 2017, 16:13:10
I too am a huge fan of this set. It was one of the first that caught my eye when I first started looking into keysets. I have an extreme need to pair this set with an matching green aluminium case and some nice green switches. Bonus points if the case weighs enough to put your back out when you lift it. Double bonus points if you pair it with an ancient green screen CRT and a TTY only linux environment.

If you pull off such a build, I would very much like to see it :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Sun, 04 June 2017, 18:44:00
I got all excited when I saw this topic had new comments; I thought there was going to be news... it's more than 6 months since Matt3o hinted at Nuclear Data round 2 :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: TTheuns on Sat, 24 June 2017, 21:15:27
I got all excited when I saw this topic had new comments; I thought there was going to be news... it's more than 6 months since Matt3o hinted at Nuclear Data round 2 :'(
I first saw a picture of Nuclear Data when I just got into the keycap game. I've been waiting ever since. I legit have a separate savings account for this set.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:42:17
I got all excited when I saw this topic had new comments; I thought there was going to be news... it's more than 6 months since Matt3o hinted at Nuclear Data round 2 :'(
I first saw a picture of Nuclear Data when I just got into the keycap game. I've been waiting ever since. I legit have a separate savings account for this set.

I traded mine away a couple years ago...  I don't know why!!!  Take a look around in the classifieds, they exist, still! 
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:39:23
Wow, I never would have expected there to be so much interest in these keys based on the photos I posted years ago!  If anyone desires more information about the original keyboards (photos with keycaps removed, etc.), I will do my best to supply that information.  I recently picked up some more Nuclear Data equipment just because it looked so damned cool:

http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-130A/401272839379-s-l1600-1.jpg (http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-130A/401272839379-s-l1600-1.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: The_Suec on Tue, 27 June 2017, 18:38:15
Wow, I never would have expected there to be so much interest in these keys based on the photos I posted years ago!  If anyone desires more information about the original keyboards (photos with keycaps removed, etc.), I will do my best to supply that information.  I recently picked up some more Nuclear Data equipment just because it looked so damned cool:

http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-130A/401272839379-s-l1600-1.jpg (http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-130A/401272839379-s-l1600-1.jpg)

Please let me know where I can find the pictures of the originals ? Or any pictures you have of nuclear related material, it has å amazing astetic
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rustywok on Tue, 27 June 2017, 21:00:24
Wow, I never would have expected there to be so much interest in these keys based on the photos I posted years ago!  If anyone desires more information about the original keyboards (photos with keycaps removed, etc.), I will do my best to supply that information.  I recently picked up some more Nuclear Data equipment just because it looked so damned cool:

http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-130A/401272839379-s-l1600-1.jpg (http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-130A/401272839379-s-l1600-1.jpg)

That would be hard to resist. More Nuclear Data!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Thu, 29 June 2017, 12:09:42
Please let me know where I can find the pictures of the originals ? Or any pictures you have of nuclear related material, it has å amazing astetic

I had them on picasaweb before google ruined it.  They're now on my museum web site:

http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-812

I tried updating my original post with new URLs, but for some reason the image is still shown as broken.  The original post had this image:

http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/images/nuclear_data/ND-812/DSC_0168.jpg
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:17:21
hint hint

we will run this again :)

Is this still on your radar, or is the rerun unlikely to happen any time soon? Any news would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 15 November 2017, 23:27:50
I got all excited when I saw this topic had new comments; I thought there was going to be news... it's more than 6 months since Matt3o hinted at Nuclear Data round 2 :'(

My thought exactly sir.. Now im sad again..
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: avid on Wed, 15 November 2017, 23:47:35
This is the SA set i want the most, i certainly hope we see R2.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Thu, 16 November 2017, 17:02:25
I got all excited when I saw this topic had new comments; I thought there was going to be news... it's more than 6 months since Matt3o hinted at Nuclear Data round 2 :'(

My thought exactly sir.. Now im sad again..

Sorry for the false hope :-[
I figured one year on from the original announcement was a good time to ask for an update.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Mon, 11 December 2017, 16:52:12
For anyone else like me that has been hanging out for any news on the rerun I came across this in a post over on DT

matt3o
08 Dec 2017, 07:25

"Nuclear Data is set to be released again at Signature Plastic. They told me August of this ending year, but it will more likely August of the next."
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 11 December 2017, 17:02:02
This is a great news :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 11 December 2017, 22:21:52
For anyone else like me that has been hanging out for any news on the rerun I came across this in a post over on DT

matt3o
08 Dec 2017, 07:25

"Nuclear Data is set to be released again at Signature Plastic. They told me August of this ending year, but it will more likely August of the next."

So... 2 years until next GB is run and 3 years until received? I’ll be checking this post regularly.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:35:42
believe it or not... Nuclear data finally went into production!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:36:24
believe it or not... Nuclear data finally went into production!

So, it will go straight to stock?  :eek:

Can we see kits etc already so we can plan ahead what to get? :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 January 2018, 12:36:41
believe it or not... Nuclear data finally went into production!

waow
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: The_Suec on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:05:45
Any chance we can get a notification prior to the sale, so that we that have been waiting for so long have a chance to actually get some before they get sold out ?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:19:33
Any chance we can get a notification prior to the sale, so that we that have been waiting for so long have a chance to actually get some before they get sold out ?

SP sent out a notification for Hana, so I imagine they'll send one out for this as well. Sign up for their mailing list and see what comes up.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:49:46
SP SA Classic rock, you heard it here first on GH :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Tue, 02 January 2018, 14:28:57
Any chance we can get a notification prior to the sale, so that we that have been waiting for so long have a chance to actually get some before they get sold out ?

SP sent out a notification for Hana, so I imagine they'll send one out for this as well. Sign up for their mailing list and see what comes up.

I just looked at their web site and didn't find a link to their mailing list.  Does anyone have the URL or signup process handy?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jedi on Tue, 02 January 2018, 14:40:15
I just looked at their web site and didn't find a link to their mailing list.  Does anyone have the URL or signup process handy?

Go to the pimpmykeyboard.com website and click to sign up for their newsletter at the bottom of the web page. They will send announcements on sets when they are available in store as well as other items like grab bags.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Tue, 02 January 2018, 14:42:27
Thanks!  I was looking at signatureplastics.com :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Wed, 03 January 2018, 20:45:45
Awesome news! Thanks Matt3o! :thumb:

Fingers crossed they make enough sets/kits to meet demand :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Data on Thu, 04 January 2018, 14:30:12
believe it or not... Nuclear data finally went into production!
(https://i.imgur.com/XJiKQOp.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: bun on Sun, 07 January 2018, 23:14:51
believe it or not... Nuclear data finally went into production!

My prayers have finally been answered  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: cdn-mini on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:17:29
Was there a good reason they went all R3 originally?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:24:39
Was there a good reason they went all R3 originally?

Support for any custom layouts, plus it's just a design choice.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: bluesclera on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:31:53
Was there a good reason they went all R3 originally?

Support for any custom layouts, plus it's just a design choice.

Disappointing, thought it had deeper meaning -> 'nuclear' event that reduced cites to one profile?

Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:41:41
Was there a good reason they went all R3 originally?

Support for any custom layouts, plus it's just a design choice.

Disappointing, thought it had deeper meaning -> 'nuclear' event that reduced cites to one profile?

Haha well I suppose it’s entirely possible that there is some deeper hidden meaning to it, but that was never made known to the participants if so. ;)

IIRC the boards that it took inspiration from also were typically all R3 profile, but I might be misremembering that one.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 08 January 2018, 18:02:17
Was there a good reason they went all R3 originally?

Support for any custom layouts, plus it's just a design choice.

Disappointing, thought it had deeper meaning -> 'nuclear' event that reduced cites to one profile?

Haha well I suppose it’s entirely possible that there is some deeper hidden meaning to it, but that was never made known to the participants if so. ;)

IIRC the boards that it took inspiration from also were typically all R3 profile, but I might be misremembering that one.


Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1251249#msg1251249) it was revealed that sculptured was an option.

Overall there was more interest in all R3 expressed.

Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1252066#msg1252066) R3 was decided, more or less.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 January 2018, 18:04:49
Was there a good reason they went all R3 originally?

Support for any custom layouts, plus it's just a design choice.

Disappointing, thought it had deeper meaning -> 'nuclear' event that reduced cites to one profile?

Haha well I suppose it’s entirely possible that there is some deeper hidden meaning to it, but that was never made known to the participants if so. ;)

IIRC the boards that it took inspiration from also were typically all R3 profile, but I might be misremembering that one.


Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1251249#msg1251249) it was revealed that sculptured was an option.

Overall there was more interest in all R3 expressed.

Here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55640.msg1252066#msg1252066) R3 was decided, more or less.

Thanks for the sleuthing, rowdy!  :)  That more or less confirms my memory of the situation.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 21:13:01
Sounds great if we could get this classical keyset soon. Can't wait to empty my wallet.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 21 March 2018, 17:58:08
production is over! we shall see it soon
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:02:37
production is over! we shall see it soon

How do you know production is over?  I signed up for their mailing list but haven't received any email since that time months ago...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: AuDiTH on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:04:45
production is over! we shall see it soon

Woahh that's awesome, can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:06:20
How do you know production is over?  I signed up for their mailing list but haven't received any email since that time months ago...

because I'm your insider guy
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: legalize on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:16:29
How do you know production is over?  I signed up for their mailing list but haven't received any email since that time months ago...

because I'm your insider guy

Well, sweet!  Thanks for the heads up.  I missed out on the first run and have been eagerly looking forward to this tribute capset :)
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:45:22
because I'm your insider guy

And you need to stop by more often.  We kinda miss you and elrick from the good ol' days
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: avid on Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:46:33
How do you know production is over?  I signed up for their mailing list but haven't received any email since that time months ago...

because I'm your insider guy

Is SA retro next in line?
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:12:14
How do you know production is over?  I signed up for their mailing list but haven't received any email since that time months ago...

because I'm your insider guy

So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Bob on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:23:07
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:27:56
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???

It's gotta be a placeholder. That's r/mm prices. Lol
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:30:16
Plus those kits need to be updated for more current board compatibility.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: avid on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:45:08
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???

It's gotta be a placeholder. That's r/mm prices. Lol

No it´s not placeholder prices. Look at DSA hana for example.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:48:40
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???

Thanks for the heads up! That's what I figured but was curious. I got the $63 pricing from the very 1st post on this thread, apparently that is what a ND base set cost during the very 1st run back in 2014. Wish that is how much they still cost...
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:53:49
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???

It's gotta be a placeholder. That's r/mm prices. Lol

I really hope it is a placeholder price but it looks like things are starting to get crazy with the pricing of SP's SA caps. Oco is gonna be charging $260 for a slightly expanded base set on SA Honeywell, https://www.originativeco.com/products/sa-honeywell. That is not a place holder price either AFAIK, you can put it in your cart & checkout. >:D
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 21 March 2018, 20:09:15
So real question . @Matt3eo  are you going to re run the rad hard kits again !! please !!!
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 21 March 2018, 20:29:24
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???

It's gotta be a placeholder. That's r/mm prices. Lol

I really hope it is a placeholder price but it looks like things are starting to get crazy with the pricing of SP's SA caps. Oco is gonna be charging $260 for a slightly expanded base set on SA Honeywell, https://www.originativeco.com/products/sa-honeywell. That is not a place holder price either AFAIK, you can put it in your cart & checkout. >:D

Pretty nuts that just over a year ago I ordered GMK Honeywell for $135.  And before someone mentions the SA one isn't a GB, it's not like they couldn't have made it one, though who knows how much it would have cost anyway.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: punksinatra on Wed, 21 March 2018, 21:19:33
So wait a min, is this a GB that happened forever ago & is just now getting fulfilled or is this gonna be a set readily available from SP on PMK.com? Also good god how the prices have changed since 2014 :eek:, if I told anybody fairly new to the hobby you could get a ABS double shot SA base set for $63 not all that long ago they would laugh right in my face! :p

The GB was fulfilled a long time ago. SP put it back into production because it was so popular.

The thing I'm concerned about is how the price is displaying on PMK. $250 USD for the base set seems a little steep at just over $2 USD per key... is that accurate or just a placeholder? :confused: Are you seeing the base set as $63 USD??? I know prices are inflated for Australians, but this???

It's gotta be a placeholder. That's r/mm prices. Lol

I really hope it is a placeholder price but it looks like things are starting to get crazy with the pricing of SP's SA caps. Oco is gonna be charging $260 for a slightly expanded base set on SA Honeywell, https://www.originativeco.com/products/sa-honeywell. That is not a place holder price either AFAIK, you can put it in your cart & checkout. >:D

Pretty nuts that just over a year ago I ordered GMK Honeywell for $135.  And before someone mentions the SA one isn't a GB, it's not like they couldn't have made it one, though who knows how much it would have cost anyway.

It could be lower but really depends on the demand. If the demand was like that of Carbon or Godspeed then we can expect major price differences.. I don't think SA Honeywell would have the same demand as Carbon or Godspeed so yeah price difference might not be much
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 21 March 2018, 21:52:33
The pmk page says "A limited number of keysets will be available Monday, March 26th." I love the keys, but $250 for that base set is just crazy. Maybe if it was a set like Originative offers for SA Hyperfuse with the extra keys, it would be worth it.
Title: Re: [GB] Nuclear Data Green SA Row 3 - The long awaited keycap set.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 21 March 2018, 21:53:41
Original group buy is closed.  Locking this thread to prevent any potential rule circumventing etc.