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(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fRgVpjh/1/M/i-fRgVpjh-M.png)I like the colors. I like the work this team has done in the past. You have my interest! :thumb:
Nice color choices. I can always use more blue SA keysets... :thumb:This coming from the creator of SA Dasher/Dancer is just too funny.
Blue alphas (in SA format) are almost unheard of. We need more! Dasher/Dancer is merely a good start. ;D
Have you thought about about naming the set something different? "Mechanist" isn't really part of the English lexicon. In addition, it's a name that is used in the Fallout video game, and you might run into some IP issues like the Out of the Vault GB did.
I think that calling the set "Mechanic," "Engineer," or "Maker" will better convey the feel that you are trying to create.
I like the choice of colors, looking forward to previews! Reminds me of Submechanophobia, the fear of man made machines below sea. https://www.reddit.com/r/submechanophobia/
Awesome color theme, been looking for something like this. Are you considering multiple alpha sets so we can play with the color layout at all?
'Mechanist' is an archaic form of 'Mechanic', as well as a term used in philosophy to describe a believer of mechanism. The word's usage peaked once in the 1820s and again between in the 1930s. The Fallout series doesn't own the word any more than J.K. Rowling owns the word 'Potter'. ;)
hyped to see the design and novelties !
Count me in for Base, Frozen and Numpad :thumb: very nice work, looks a bit like an inverted Calm Depths if you don't mind me saying, but of course enough differences that make it unique nonetheless.
Base and frozen, count me in. Are the frozen alphas the same colors as Chronicler?
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)
Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.
Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board)
I just got a PM claiming that you "copied" the alphas from my set (DSA Frost DSAFrost.weebly.com (http://DSAFrost.weebly.com)). Since I have been falsely called a "copycat" myself I don't want to jump to conclusions here but seeing that the alpha's kit was even called "Frozen" really made me wonder if you took some inspiration from my set. Have a nice day :) Jan
Edit: Oh and by the way, I do really like your set. Especially the standard base set with the "pastel colors" looks extremely nice imo!
I don't think it looks like frost at all, but I guess it's subjective. Speaking of frost, I didn't know you had a page up yet. Gratz on that. However, I'm confused becuase the render on your page isn't using SP's font. I have 2 sets of SP DSA caps and 1 SA and that font isn't Gorton Modified.
Not the entire set for sure, but the white/greyish and blue alphas with "frozen" as a name did make me wonder. Again, I don't think this really is a problem since imo there's no such thing as a rightful owner of a "colorway" or anything and if there was I certainly wouldn't be it, I was just interested if it was the case :)
Thank you! And hmm indeed I'm typing on a SP DSA set as well atm and the font does look a bit different (the "Q" and numbers in particular) though still very similar. I actually rendered it using a model someone on /r/keycapdesigners created which I think was based on keyboardlayouteditors DSA Retro preset. Well, the final set will be in Gorton Modified when/if (poll is still not fully successful :() it goes in production.
Ooh and if you're interested, here's the MassDropp poll: every vote is greatly appreciated!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-Product-Frost-DSA-bring-the-cold-to-your-board)
Thanks for the link. Yes, the font is similar but it looks a bit too small and kind of short in X-height.
No, thank you for the vote :D And indeed, I wonder what the standard font of KBLE is? I Googled it and I can't seem to find anything
No, thank you for the vote :D And indeed, I wonder what the standard font of KBLE is? I Googled it and I can't seem to find anything
The editor defaults to "Engravers Gothic" when you type in SA or DSA. You can see in the developer tools of your browser if you inspect the page. You cannot download Gorton anywhere, b/c it's Signature Plastic's own font. The closest I've ever found was Sinkin Sans, but that is not free. Arial would be closer than the Engraver's Gothic though. You'll need to bump the Alphas up to 8 or 9 in the font size box. Numbers and other Multi-character like the <, or ?/ key should probably be around 4 or 5 size. The Modifiers should be all caps and around 3 in size.
Not trying to hijack the thread. I'll buy both sets for sure!
Really like the colors, but no 40% love? Need to advocate for more MiniVan support!
Love it. Any chance of PBT uniform r3?
About uniform R3 ,We still need to consider its possibility. Godspeed made a uniform R3 kit,and sell well, maybe it's a good idea.I love the set too. I'm in as is, but I'd also be interested in a uniform R3 option.
Love this colorway as the dark tone colors really suit workplace. I am definitely in but with the current hectic schedule of SP, we have to wait for months to see the actual GB. Have you think of choosing the vendor to run the GB yet?
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
My mind boggles at the madness! :eek:I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
It just kind happened because those were the blanks I had from my grab bag. I think I might like it more because I leave my board flat with no incline angle, so it kind of emulates the incline. I picked up some round 5 blanks from DT on the cheap as wellMy mind boggles at the madness! :eek:I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
Does that make it any easier to get sculpted sets that fit your layout? Doesn't seem like it would.
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
Just FYI, your Base Kit already has a R1 2u Backspace key. You shouldn't need a second one in the Planck/Atomic kit.
minila again? IM JOIN AGAIN FOR SURE! :p
I agree. 2343 is my favorite sculpt. I just wish more novelties were in r3. :)I use 40% so anything R1 is basically unusable for me.
I use a 1-3-2-3 sculpt of blanks on my Planck and quite like it actually.
For me 2343 is better on a planck or 40%.
Blank kit is not quite realistic.
If you really want any blanks, maybe you should buy a Ergo kit for instead.
I finally made an account to say that I absolutely adore this set. If it goes to group buy I will buy it for sure.
Oh sweet ! any chance for splitting the base kit's alphas ? i love the frozen alphas more :p
Is there any chance of adding a R3 1.75 Function key to the base kit or adapter kit?
There is a thing I don't understand in the last SA keysets done recently... why the numpad has a 1U R2 plus key without an additional R3 key that will be under it. What it is suposed to be put in this place on keyboards with the + key that is split?
That makes much more sense.
You're welcome and thanks to you to design this amazing keyset ;D
:thumb:
When this goes LIVE I shall be there.
Love this Colour-way and it will be used in the workshop with the mechanics :thumb: .
why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?
why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Why are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
Where would those keycaps go?why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A need it
So sorry,My English is very bad :(
(http://attachimg=1]http://])Where would those keycaps go?why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A need it
So sorry,My English is very bad :(
why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
He only wants a row 4 End key.why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
Thanks for your pictures.Where would those keycaps go?why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?Thanks. ^-^why you so diao????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dear hoq
I need R4 end .
Can you meet me?Show Image(https://gss0.baidu.com/7Po3dSag_xI4khGko9WTAnF6hhy/zhidao/pic/item/359b033b5bb5c9ea9280ff0dd239b6003bf3b3e9.jpg)
Allow me.QuoteWhy are you so cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [Ed. note: diao appears to be Taiwanese slang for "cool" -- possible roots in Starcraft community]
Dear hoq,
I need a Row 4 End and . keys.
Can you make it happen?
VE.A need it
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Love it! Certainly interested
By looking at the sets would the Adapter kit cover the TADA68 and the new RS96 verIII ( currently on MD)?
I looked but couldn't really tell... Is there a 1.5 R3 BBJ anywhere in any of the sets? Legend doesn't matter.
It would be my enter key in a custom layout but I know there are 1.5 R3 caps in the set that I could use. I just wanted a dash of that sweet BBJ color and I didn't think I'd end up with any. I forgot that I could use the two 1.25 R3 BBJ caps from Novelties-1 in my bottom row so no worries. :DI looked but couldn't really tell... Is there a 1.5 R3 BBJ anywhere in any of the sets? Legend doesn't matter.
We haven't made a 1.5u BBJ key in R3. Where do you want to use?
It would be my enter key in a custom layout but I know there are 1.5 R3 caps in the set that I could use. I just wanted a dash of that sweet BBJ color and I didn't think I'd end up with any. I forgot that I could use the two 1.25 R3 BBJ caps from Novelties-1 in my bottom row so no worries. :DI looked but couldn't really tell... Is there a 1.5 R3 BBJ anywhere in any of the sets? Legend doesn't matter.
We haven't made a 1.5u BBJ key in R3. Where do you want to use?
Wow, that's a lot of kits. :eek:
If I might offer one suggestion: you might not want to use BBJ legends with WA keycaps. The contrast is too low, IMO. Below is an image showing just the luma of two of your colorway samples, and you can see how poor the contrast is between the legends and the keycaps when BBJ legends are used on WA keycaps in the lower example. Notice how much better the contrast is when you use BFR for the legends, as in the upper example. Maybe go with something like BFP legends with the white keycaps.
Just something to consider.
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Vrey nice! :D
I am very expect this but it is too many kits. :-X :confused: :confused: I only wish I have enough money to buy them in next year. :)
Also, I hope the color is the same as the picture。 ;)
If I might offer one suggestion: you might not want to use BBJ legends with WA keycaps. The contrast is too low, IMO. Below is an image showing just the luma of two of your colorway samples, and you can see how poor the contrast is between the legends and the keycaps when BBJ legends are used on WA keycaps in the lower example. Notice how much better the contrast is when you use BFR for the legends, as in the upper example. Maybe go with something like BFP legends with the white keycaps.
Just something to consider.
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Yes you are right.
the Frozen Alphas set looks a little bit low contrast.
In fact, at the very beginning, we only developed the BFM Alphas (with BFR legend) as the main alpha set,
as some user want more choise ,We added the Fronzen Alphas set,
Frozen Alphas (WA with BBJ legend) look low contrast,but more elegent.
We will consider about the font color, BFP or some other dark colors. Thank you.
Alphas are two different bright colors, have you considered alphas of same color as mods? I would be down for thoseI like the colors you have going on now but agree with alveeno, this might look really cool. I'd really like alphas the same color as the mods legends/novs. Kind of like how SA carbon ran the orange alphas that matched their novs/mod legends
I tried to make a mock up pic as you required.
For the reference, the third pattern of the alphas changed to BBJ(BFR legend), They look like Carbon orange alphas color way.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6JPmpfK/0/X3/i-6JPmpfK-X3.jpg)
I tried to make a mock up pic as you required.
For the reference, the third pattern of the alphas changed to BBJ(BFR legend), They look like Carbon orange alphas color way.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6JPmpfK/0/X3/i-6JPmpfK-X3.jpg)
but, I bend the color to black and white to check the contrast, they look even harder to identify the lengend.Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hsx5vCd/0/X3/i-hsx5vCd-X3.jpg)
If you actually managed to get a Dvorak layout made I'm on board.
If you actually managed to get a Dvorak layout made I'm on board.
Can't wait to see one with the main alphas. Hope we get this gb going soon so we can get this by next Christmas!
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87 keyboard rendersYup definitely getting that!Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B9WRR6Q/0/X2/i-B9WRR6Q-X2.jpg)
Could be a little sooner, but I'm pretty positive SP is booked till October currently could be wrong thoughCan't wait to see one with the main alphas. Hope we get this gb going soon so we can get this by next Christmas!
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Is that really how long it would take to get this if it happens? :eek:
Could be a little sooner, but I'm pretty positive SP is booked till October currently could be wrong thoughCan't wait to see one with the main alphas. Hope we get this gb going soon so we can get this by next Christmas!
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Is that really how long it would take to get this if it happens? :eek:
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After nearly 3 monthes' working on this design, We openned a MassDrop Poll,
If you like this keysets and hope to let it become reality, Please vote for it!
the URL: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
After nearly 3 monthes' working on this design, We openned a MassDrop Poll,
If you like this keysets and hope to let it become reality, Please vote for it!
the URL: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
May I ask why the choice was massdrop? I don't mind them in particular but it will add a decent amount of time (having the poll go through, massdrop actually caring and working out the details) to an already long SP production queue. No chance originative/keyclack could run a GB for this through their sites?
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Thank you guys for your support!
I am going to try to contact some vendors to see how to launch this keyset! :thumb:
We hold the MD poll just to confirm how many people like this design and We have not decide which vendor to corperate with.
If possible, we would like to chose MD, as lithopedion said above, MD can collect more orders to lower the price for each user,
and easely to hit the MOQ for those rare kits users,such as Minila, Dvorak/Colemak, International.
I'm not hoping to see some kits being cut off because of a lack of orders.
Another problem is, from later last year until now, A lot of SA group-buy launched, and the Production capacity
of SP is limiteded to swallow more orders, nonetheless, more group-buys are about to run continuously.
People love SA so much.
According to these, we may need to wait more time to run the group-buy.
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Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Frozen Alphas on this layout look very cool!
I also have a Minila, but no SA keysets support this layout, I hope to make one kit to fullfill the users.
(SA Carbon has 3u spacebars, but it has not enough adapter keys)
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Thank you, I'm still waiting for the vendor's reply. a little anxous, but I have to wait.
I just use this idle time to make some other designs. :p
this is the only SA keyset that offer 3u spacebar(from minila kit), YAS62 need 3u spacebar, now i really really need this set :)
mechanist + YAS62 will look really cool for sureShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ceVQdn.png)
cant wait for this set to run :p
Oh man, that does look really cool. I'm in the YAS62 GB and considering putting it in a black FMJ case, your mockup makes me want to try that.
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
Yes, they seem very busy, maybe a lot of keycap designer ask for them to run groupbuys.
but, at least they should give me a reply, even if they don't like this design.....
I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.I have contacted to MD about this keyset, and the person in charge hasn't replied yet.
I think I still need to wait for some days.
:'(
MD has gotten big enough that I'm not surprised that it's taking some time. They are making a lot of changes and adding new areas so that probably has them busy. We are as eager as you to hear what will come.
They've been particularly slow and, at times, not-communicative with set designers for quite a while.
Yes, they seem very busy, maybe a lot of keycap designer ask for them to run groupbuys.
but, at least they should give me a reply, even if they don't like this design.....
Thank you for all your advices. I will continue to follow up until they give me a reply.
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yeah with the 1 year SA backlog, I'm not surprised they're holding off on any SA related sets right now. Still, it was nice to see them give a reply. I'd say if you want to continue the MassDrop route, contact them again at some point in the future.
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Wow! Is this true? SP sold their molds to Maxkey, that explains why their keys are almost identical.You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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You can venture into the MaxKey SA (uncharted) territories.
Yes, I know that profile, and have gotten a 104 keyset to have a try.
As I know , they only have 104+WKL models, if users want to add more specs, the cost of modeling become even higher, especially the novelties are very high ,even higher than SP.
It seems that the Chinese makers really want to deal with higher volume and keep their costs minimized. The kind of sets we're used to don't seem to currently be their strong point.
With high price and low production ability, SP can not fullfil all the Chinese market now.
so, some makers in China are trying to do some copy like SA profile, as I know at least more than 2 makers failed, their products are very poor and totally unusable.
Maxkey seems the best of them, its molds are better, products feel more smooth.
But the material and colors are hard to tell.
Well their molds are better because it is SP's old molds that they sold to them. Though the molds have flaws such as printing "back space" instead of "backspace" apparently maxxkeys is trying to fix them
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:eek: :eek: :eek:
Are you sure?
If that is true, what a explosive news!
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Looks like massdrop has plans to run SA Carbon round 2 in the summer, then SA Oblivion sometime after, maybe we can get lucky and sneak in after that?
... Or get MaxKeys to produce them for half the cost and time frame
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Maxkeys has limited molds and lack full compatibility we've come to expect from marquee sets. Also the small errors they're still working out are unacceptable for something like this set. Better left to generic and reproduction sets until they're ironed out. Not a knock, as they're doing great work so far.
MaxKeys has to start somewhere, though. If they can produce some sets and build up comfort in putting money into additional molds, the community wins. If they want to mostly stick to what they've got, the community still wins as some sets will still move over there for more continuous production while others will stick with SP given the advantages of doing so.
In either case, it's nice to have MaxKeys in the picture.
MaxKeys has to start somewhere, though. If they can produce some sets and build up comfort in putting money into additional molds, the community wins. If they want to mostly stick to what they've got, the community still wins as some sets will still move over there for more continuous production while others will stick with SP given the advantages of doing so.
In either case, it's nice to have MaxKeys in the picture.
I completely agree, but they should start slow and slowly gain the knowledge/invest in the proper tooling and how to use it consistently right. Starting with sets with no novelties like they have, to some custom novelties/additional compat kits, then increase on that. I think the amount of novelties and compatibility we want for this kit would be way to much to throw at them right off the start without getting a bunch of errors
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Any update on this amazing set? I see the MD poll is getting good results so was just curious.
Regards
Just when I thought I didn't need more keycaps!
The more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
The more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
The more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/947/keyboard-layouts-explained-in-detail-many-pics
Z70 for example. I think most people using 65/75% boards will appreciate a selection of 1u keys for the right side.
I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
I got Ashen a few days ago. Looks great.I'd be surprised if any SP sets still in the IC phase would be delivered before 2019.
Is there not an option for IC creators to approach MaxKey with their SA profiles? The reviews of Ashen etc have been quite positive.
I really can not understand why MD do not make this drop happen, what the hell is wrong with them :mad: :mad: :mad:
I really can not understand why MD do not make this drop happen, what the hell is wrong with them :mad: :mad: :mad:
I wouldn't pin this entirely on MD. SP's pipeline queue is quite long (see below). Combine that with the likely point that MD probably already has sets (not just SA) that have been committed for a while that plan on releasing between now and the end of the year, and it pushes out the timeline for when it'd make sense to engage more deeply on logistics for this set. Just my 2c.
"Current production lead times are as follows: [...] SA two-shot sets - currently booked out 12 months"
(source) (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/)
All that said, I do look forward to this set (eventually) dropping.
Hope to see the 1u R4 "END" key in the final setThe more I see this, the more I like it. It is missing a 1U R4 "END" key for the Adaptor kit though
Hi ,Can you tell me what the 1u R4 END key used for?
If it's good for some keyboards, I can add it. :)
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/947/keyboard-layouts-explained-in-detail-many-pics
Z70 for example. I think most people using 65/75% boards will appreciate a selection of 1u keys for the right side.
OK, thank for your information, :)
Hi guys, some good news about this keyset.
I've got a reply from MD, they said they plan to put this keyset in their 2018 schedule.
but we still have to wait for further information before the real launch time has been decided. :))
Thanks so much for you guys' supports in voting for this keyset on poll:
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Because of your supports, we have got nearly 3000 votes untill now!
Hi guys, some good news about this keyset.
I've got a reply from MD, they said they plan to put this keyset in their 2018 schedule.
but we still have to wait for further information before the real launch time has been decided. :))
Thanks so much for you guys' supports in voting for this keyset on poll:
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/-SA-Mechanist-Tell-me-what-you-like
Because of your supports, we have got nearly 3000 votes untill now!
That's great news! Any plans to see if Maxkeys can run this as well? They're getting their major molds fixed and are doing custom novelities as well. Could probably have this organized and shipped before Massdrop even gives you a set date for the SP GB.
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Great news! Really looking forward for it! Though I'm not sure if I'm still interested in keycaps next year.
Many of you seem to be very interested in Maxkey. Well, I own two sets of Maxkey SA myself, which imo is good, but cannot rival with SP SA. And I definitely will NOT buy if Mechanist turns out as Maxkey.
Anyway, now that it's on MD's schedule, all we need is patience.
This looks great! Hope to see more updates.
Hopefully this set will be coming from SP not Maxkey! :)
SP sa is more better than maxkey. When it start?
SP sa is more better than maxkey. When it start?
My thoughts exactly..
@hoq
Any chance to add two keys, a 1u ALT and a 1,25u ALT, to the 40% kit?
SP sa is more better than maxkey. When it start?
My thoughts exactly..
@hoq
Any chance to add two keys, a 1u ALT and a 1,25u ALT, to the 40% kit?
Yes, definitely by SP SA.
We will review all the layouts before the GB starts. the 40% kit probably the same with other SA designs.
Hi, thanks for all your guy's supports for this keycaps design.Hopefully they will be able to run it soon, otherwise i prefer other vendors for faster GB
I wrote to MD a again, because of the person in charge was busy at CES, he will consider if they have a slot to run this key set in 2018 schedule , and then give me a reply.
Please do 1.5u “super” keys to support non-windows users! Thanks.
(Our “super” keys are where your alt keys are and vice-versa)
Do this and I’m up for a set.
Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
Is that 150€ for what size of a key? I would imagine that you can get a discount if you buy 50.Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
Is that 150€ for what size of a key? I would imagine that you can get a discount if you buy 50.Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
Since it doesn’t look like you’ll be adding 1.5u “super” keys; command/option keys for OS X users would be nice as an addon set, 1u, 1.25u & 1.5u.
Alternatively stick a couple of 1.5u novelties in there (like MaxKeys lime did).
It’s a great looking set, and it would be a shame to miss out because it won’t fit on my HHKB layout boards.
Hi, Thanks so much for your advice, I’ll review all the kits layout before the GB starts, I haven’t forgot to add a kit for MAC users, don’t be worry !Awesome, cheapest option is a couple of 1.5u novelties! Noticed nearly all the new gmk sets coming out now seem to have 1.5u super keys so maybe it’s a “thing” now.
I’m still waiting for a formal schedule about the group buy. Probably happen in 2018!
Is that 150€ for what size of a key? I would imagine that you can get a discount if you buy 50.Refuse is a strong word. I guess that they simply "refuse" to do them for free.Will there ever be some thoughts of making a GMK version of this? Just curious but this set looks amazing even on SA I am still interested!
GMK doesn't work because they refuse to do centered alphas.
I´m sure that they would do them if you ask for it and provide the money for the new glyphs, as is standard for novelties etc. It´s just 50 € or so per novelty.
50$ at Signature Plastics, 150Eur for GMK
I'm not aware of price differences between keysizes, maybe there is. Regarding discount, idk either, maybe.
Anyhow, when someone suggests to run a set in GMK, they don't mean that centered legends from SP should be copied over as well, it is implied that GMK's font is used instead.
are there any updates on this set?
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
A large proportion of individuals like to have R3 control instead of capslock due to the infrequent use of capslock. Although its not necessary to have correct legends to do this, it is still nice for individuals who want correct legends.This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Neat. I'd personally prefer the alphas over the frozen alphas -- I think there's enough sets out there that do the usual high-contrast stark light alpha/dark modifier combination.
I too like the alphas over the frozen alphas. I would say keep it with a cool color pallet. Do you know what will be the estimated cost of this set?
This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
I'm digging regular alphas.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
Really great to hear you haven't given up on this design! Still very excited to see this happen.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
I'm happy to see news on this.
I like both alphas, especially the frozen alphas. The WFK white is a great color.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
+1A large proportion of individuals like to have R3 control instead of capslock due to the infrequent use of capslock. Although its not necessary to have correct legends to do this, it is still nice for individuals who want correct legends.This is an instant buy for me as long as I can have a 1.75 Control key. Based on all the sketches / renders, it won't be a problem.
Any estimate as to when this will be available?
I'm still fairly new to the hobby, but is there a reason as to why a 1.75U control key is important? And which one of the kits will contain a 1.75U control key?
Can we still expect to see other kits, such as the Ergodox kit and the novelty kit? Or is the new "updated kits" list the only kits being offered. Would really suck to have waited over a year for this gb to even start only to have it stripped down to the basics.
Could you add a 1U R3 Fn key to the non-standard kit? That's used in the bottom row of some 65% layouts (Tada68, most Whitefox layouts).
Two R3 Enter keys in the Ortho kit is unnecessary for probably the majority of buyers.
Two R3 Enter keys in the Ortho kit is unnecessary for probably the majority of buyers.
And does anyone actually have a capslock key on a 40% board?
Two R3 Enter keys in the Ortho kit is unnecessary for probably the majority of buyers.
Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jX4GS2p/0/4fe1def6/X3/i-jX4GS2p-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5WGZLHR/0/696c7549/X3/i-5WGZLHR-X3.jpg)
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
That key seems like a FN or layer change function key. Maybe you can use a 1.25u novelty to adapt it.
Actually the smallest space "bar" is the 1u key on a grid planck. :)How about a 1.25u spacekey (unless there is a 1.25u blank somewhere that I missed). Also, any plans for a 1.25u R3 novelty?
1.25u R3 novelties will come in Gears Novelties kit, please wait a moment.
but 1.25u spacekey is out my plan, Does any keyboard have a 1.25u blank spacekey?
I've seen some custom split spacebar layouts have a 1.25u in the middle... like this thing http://i.imgur.com/7EXes.png
That key seems like a FN or layer change function key. Maybe you can use a 1.25u novelty to adapt it.
Oh yeah, you're right. Hmm, in that case the smallest actual space bar I've seen is 2u on ortho keebs or 40% keebs.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Make it two R1 1.5u keys and there will be support for Race 3 as well.Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Make it two R1 1.5u keys and there will be support for Race 3 as well.Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Yup, there's this handy page on the official website:Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.Make it two R1 1.5u keys and there will be support for Race 3 as well.Hi erveyone,
The IC restarts now, I haven't gived up this design, I want to make it happen.
I'm going to keep updating the drawings until the group buy starts one day!
Kits update:
1. AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-45Wr7xX/0/3393816d/X3/i-45Wr7xX-X3.jpg)
2. Frozen AlphasShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qxmL8Cn/0/5303f657/X3/i-qxmL8Cn-X3.jpg)
3. TKL AdapterShow Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsxtbZK/0/c9353584/X3/i-TsxtbZK-X3.jpg)
This is really good news, I am anxiously waiting for this set ...
I have no preference between the two alpha kits, I would take them both
P.S. but has anything changed compared to the original idea?
KMK Labs.
Thanks, basically not that much change I think, just add several keys to match new keyboards such as FC980, UHK ....so on!
Has support for the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard been added already? Would be nice to have a blank/novelty R1 1.5u key for the UHK's backspace, as the only compatible ones in terms of size and profile are the Ergodox's =+ or -_ keys, which would lead to an incorrect (and repeated) legend on the UHK.
Since I haven't got my UHK, I can't tell which special keys need to be added. Do you have a UHK layout map?
I'm cosidering changing the Ergo kit with all blank keys, because every Ergo users always their own key layout, actual legends make no sence for them. 1.5u R1 blank keys are not a problem if the Ergo kit are all blanks.
Yup, there's this handy page on the official website:
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
looks nice! definitely will join in:)
Is there a reason why the ortho kit does not contain any Del, Ctrl, Win, Alt or Fn keycaps?
Is there a reason why the ortho kit does not contain any Del, Ctrl, Win, Alt or Fn keycaps?
I add a Ctrl and Alt keys in Ortho kit.
But for other 1u keys you mentioned,
I checked Dasher, Godspeed, they also ignored these keys, maybe because those 1u keys can be found in other kits.
Can we still expect to see other kits, such as the Ergodox kit and the novelty kit? Or is the new "updated kits" list the only kits being offered. Would really suck to have waited over a year for this gb to even start only to have it stripped down to the basics.
Updates! Yes, Ergodox and some other kits will come soon!Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RqHSCH8/0/c52d7a23/X3/i-RqHSCH8-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XcqKPtm/0/e0b402a9/X3/i-XcqKPtm-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fSC3wLC/0/d6ee0c34/X3/i-fSC3wLC-X3.jpg)Show Image(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zHnWPFH/0/db938e3e/X3/i-zHnWPFH-X3.jpg)
Yup, there's this handy page on the official website:
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
What about joining together the frozen alphas and the numbers from the frozen numpad? like the zambs from pulse.
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
As Yap mentioned, some people prefer aiming for a more "standard" look, albeit the novelty arrows are nice. Just for people who like the colorway, but aren't looking for novelties.
? They look the same to me.QuoteYup, there's this handy page on the official website:
https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/layout-and-keycaps
I got a final product photo, they look not the same with that layout map.
I think I have to make a new kit to fit UHK and Minila.Show Image(https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/colored-uhks-mini-batch-1.jpg)
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
No! The novelty arrows are my favorite part of SA Mechanist! :( Please leave the BBJ arrows as the novelty version.
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
I think he was asking about the two 2.25U blank spacekeys in the spacekeys kit, not the 2.25U shift key in the non-standard kit.
I don't get why there are two 2.25 space bars, and really hope a 1.25 blank is included.
leopold 660 layout needs 2 2.25u keys
I think he was asking about the two 2.25U blank spacekeys in the spacekeys kit, not the 2.25U shift key in the non-standard kit.
split spacebar, it's a popular setup in china i believe
In just six days? Where??
In just six days? Where??
Also, here's a cute 65% render for you guys. more renders coming soon.
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Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Oh damn, we got some physics up in this bish. I'm sure this was clarified somewhere within this thread and I was just too lazy to look it up. Thanks for the clarification Lightning.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Oh damn, we got some physics up in this bish. I'm sure this was clarified somewhere within this thread and I was just too lazy to look it up. Thanks for the clarification Lightning.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Technically, if it is supposed to be gravity it should be little g, and if it is supposed to be a force it should be mg, because gravity all by itself is just acceleration and big G is the gravitational constant.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Technically, if it is supposed to be gravity it should be little g, and if it is supposed to be a force it should be mg, because gravity all by itself is just acceleration and big G is the gravitational constant.Can someone explain to the idiot, me, what the significance of N, f, F, G is for the arrows in the novelty kit?Normal force, friction, applied force, gravity. All relevant forces in a lot of free body diagrams for objects in motion on a surface.
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Nice little TKL render
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Nice little TKL render
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Looks great. I'm excited for this.
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Nice little TKL render
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Looks great. I'm excited for this.
Oh boye, this is going to sell thousands of sets! Another big hit in the making!
Glad to hear that you're excited! It really is a beautiful set!
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Is this GB currently going on or will go on soon? Any plan where this GB will be held? thank you so much.
this is amazing.
Think you can add a simple arrow kit like how SA Oblivion did it?Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set/sa_oblivion_kit_24_arrows_20170828131116.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=1)
I made several arrow novelties in Mech Tools kit. :))
Is this GB currently going on or will go on soon? Any plan where this GB will be held? thank you so much.
this is amazing.
Hi, I heard back from techbuys.us, they will start group-buy in 1 week from now.
Weighing up whether or not I want to trust a brand-new vendor with a fair bit of money... why couldn't an established vendor be used?
Weighing up whether or not I want to trust a brand-new vendor with a fair bit of money... why couldn't an established vendor be used?
yeah... I have the same question...
Some information on the vendor will be appreciated
While we wait for Techbuys to build a web site to sell this to us, do you at least have pricing information for the kits?
actually it is pretentious to start out as a new store with a GB of SP. all the new stores have been working with immediate distribution products before tackling similar projects. I do not approve of this choice. then obviously it is the last word to the creator of the set.
KMK Labs.
There's also an issue with an unknown new vendor using an SP SA set as their first product. With the long lead times on SA sets from SP, we're likely to lose Paypal protection before the group buy would nominally be fulfilled (and that's *if* this store takes Paypal, which we don't know, because the web site doesn't even exist yet).
My issues are:
a) I don't know you. You have no reputation here.
b) With so many kits, a lot of them are not likely to reach MOQ, especially given it's not on Massdrop.
c) Prices will be higher because sales are lower.
I'd much prefer to see this on a platform like Massdrop, even if it means waiting a while.
As a mechanical engineer I'm very tempted by this. Love the colors and novelties!
While we wait for Techbuys to build a web site to sell this to us, do you at least have pricing information for the kits?
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If not PayPal, what other payment options are available?
And the pricing you are showing looks like pricing from SP to me. How much will kits end up actually costing buyers after factoring in handling, payment fees and profit margins?
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
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Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
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Any reason why the Frozen Alphas are so much more expensive? Should be the same as the normal Alphas, right?
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If not PayPal, what other payment options are available?
And the pricing you are showing looks like pricing from SP to me. How much will kits end up actually costing buyers after factoring in handling, payment fees and profit margins?
For this group buy, we'll only be accepting credit/debit cards.
As far as the costs, those aren't the SP prices. Those are the final prices that account for payment fees and profit. Though, it should be noted that the price does not include shipping. Domestic shipping will likely be a flat $8.00
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
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Any reason why the Frozen Alphas are so much more expensive? Should be the same as the normal Alphas, right?
Includes numpad portion
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Two questions:
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Two questions:
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Hey man, how r u?
Two questions:
- Do you have pictures of the Mods and Icon Mods kits?
- Are you offering the Mech Tools and the Gears kits?
Euphxenos,
Here's the pricing from a MOQ of 50 to 1,000.
(Attachment Link)
Pricing in graph form:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EZWjUXw.png)
Hey man, how r u?
I'm doing well. How about you?
Let’s get this going pls.
Let’s get this going pls.
Here's a patience token.
It's been less than a week :))
Let’s get this going pls.
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
I just looked, and now the countdown says 7 hours and 38 minutes. There was a countdown before, but when it hit zero all that happened was that the countdown went away, and there was still no site there.
Let’s get this going pls.
I just checked their website (https://techbuys.us). It now has a countdown which is currently saying "we are getting ready to launch in 5 hours 42 minutes" - midnight EDT. Not sure if this means just the website or the keycap set too, but we should know soon.
I just looked, and now the countdown says 7 hours and 38 minutes. There was a countdown before, but when it hit zero all that happened was that the countdown went away, and there was still no site there.
Still counting down. Let me check with HOQ.
Yea I'm very disappointed at this time. I've been excited for this set for some time and it sucked when it got put on the backburner. Then it got brought back and seemed to be heading in the right direction. But then you chose a brand new vendor, that didnt even have an up and running website to run this. Alright, maybe I can get behind it if they seem to show good direction. Then "we arn't accepting paypal" , uhhhh what... Thats 99% of transactions in this community. Now they've become completely silent. For an established vendor thats one thing. For someone trying to set up shop and gain the trust of the community that doesn't seem to be a good decision on their part.
Yea I'm very disappointed at this time. I've been excited for this set for some time and it sucked when it got put on the backburner. Then it got brought back and seemed to be heading in the right direction. But then you chose a brand new vendor, that didnt even have an up and running website to run this. Alright, maybe I can get behind it if they seem to show good direction. Then "we arn't accepting paypal" , uhhhh what... Thats 99% of transactions in this community. Now they've become completely silent. For an established vendor thats one thing. For someone trying to set up shop and gain the trust of the community that doesn't seem to be a good decision on their part.
Hope Zfrontier will pick this up.
It seems it is now live on techbuys.us:
https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
It seems it is now live on techbuys.us:
https://techbuys.us/mechkeys/groupbuy/sa_mechanist.php
Did you "SIGN UP OR LOGIN"?
So we need to register to even see the kits and pricing?
How do I join this GB?
How do I join this GB?