Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 21:18:34
Included in this set:
- Aluminium top housing (Aluminum 6061) in black or silver
- Bottom housing (11 degree angle)
- MX Reinforcement Plate (stainless steel, aluminum or plastic)
- PCB presoldered (resistors, diodes, smd leds, etc, but not switches)
- Fixing bolts and rubber pads
Info:
- Limit of 100 sets
- Case has an angle of 11 degrees for the aluminum bottom
- Full keymapping
- Macro settings
- Supports MX switches
- Full LED and RGB SMD LED compatible
- Switches and stabilizers are not included (Requires Cherry PCB mounted stabilizers)
- Supports centred caps lock or stepped caps lock
Layout and options:
(http://i.imgur.com/ChtfQUR.jpg)
Pictures:
http://duck0113.tistory.com/141
Price:
- $310 for one kit (top, base, PCB, plate and acrylic diffusers)
- $80 USD for an additional plate/PCB combo
Shipping:
- Shipping will be from South Korea with EMS.
- Shipping cost will depend on your location.
- Each set weighs about (TBD) kg with packaging.
- Click here to check your zone (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1010601)
- Click here to check their prices in Korean Won (http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300)
Notes:
- Deadline for order is
December 6, 2016. - Order ONLY if you can pay the invoice by the deadline (December 20, 2016)
- There will be no extras for sale after this group buy is closed, so please put your order in before it's too late ;)
- I will send invoices through Paypal to everyone, so you need a verified PayPal account to receive and pay. Also please check the information carefully before submitting your order. There will be Paypal fees added to the price. See below for PayPal gift payments.
- If you want to make changes to your order, please send me a PM and be mindful of your change.
- I can only guarantee damages for 7 days from the day you receive the items.
- Please include your number when PM'ing me for changes
Check your order here (I update this manually):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTaBx76ERyMgBBLDt4meGS6ecV0PIfsLMNwudkH5lVd7hWlX7Qp-HDZxc8gO66Y6GHqBZAhXT2rRjK3/pubhtml?gid=1865164566&single=true
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 21:18:41
November 28, 2016 - GB Started
November 29, 2016 - Spreadsheet updated to reflect final pricing
November 29, 2016 - Responded to PMs and updated OP
December 2, 2016 - Modified orders according to PMs. Will be invoicing tonight. No more changes will be permitted.
December 3, 2016 - All invoices are sent out.
December 15, 2016 - Waiting invoices to be fully paid.
December 26, 2016 - Keyboards will be shipped out early February.
January 1, 2017 - First batch will be a set of 30 orders and the rest will come a month after.
January 15, 2017 - Responded to a couple of PMs.
February 7, 2017 - First batch (50 units) preparing for shipping. All PMs replied to.
February 21, 2017 - There has been a delay - still waiting for an update.
February 22, 2017 - Keyboards are being packed.
March 13, 2017 - First batch of keyboards have shipped. Remainder will be shipping in a week or two.
April 10, 2017 - Second batch delayed for a couple of weeks.
May 3, 2017 - Been advised that keyboards are being packed!
May 11, 2017 - Second batch has been shipped. Tracking will be up soon.
FAQ:
Q: I'm not on the list, did I make it?
A: If you don't see yourself on the list, unfortunately you did not make it.
Q: Will you be running a R2 for this GB?
A: Most likely not and we will be limited to 100 sets.
Q: Why was my position changed?
A: I had to shift orders around to group the shipping costs.
Q: What happens if I'm 101, 102...etc.
A: If someone cancels their order, you will be bumped up.
Q: Can I change my order once the invoice has been paid?
A: Nope, no more changes.
Q: Can I gift you the payment via PayPal to save money?
A: Please send me a PM with "PayPal gift" in the subject and we can arrange something.
Q: Elton, please let me in!
A: Unfortunately, all spots are taken and accounted for :(.
Q: Can I just buy a plate or top separately?
A: Nope, you'll either need to buy a kit or set. Pieces cannot be purchased individually.
Post by: trizkut on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:48:09
hai triz! :p
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:50:02
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Post by: duzeyao on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:52:09
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:52:25
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:53:05
Edit: Both!
Post by: Butter on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:54:00
Post by: NoahNHP on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:56:41
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:57:25
Can I change my address later? or should I use the new address? I am moving at the end of Jan or early Feb. What should I do?Elton is the coolest, he'll help you out with edits.
Post by: byker on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:58:24
Post by: Pemdas on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:58:42
Post by: DanB on Mon, 28 November 2016, 22:59:48
Elton, I asked this on my form, but, assuming if this works, could I get a Viper top too, so I can swap between layouts depending on my moods
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 28 November 2016, 23:01:38
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Post by: zzyjayfree on Mon, 28 November 2016, 23:25:03
Finally!!!
Bed time, che che
Post by: sairex on Mon, 28 November 2016, 23:25:09
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 23:28:05
Finally!!!
Bed time, che che
:-X :-X :-X
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 23:29:10
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Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 00:00:37
Hope I made it
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 29 November 2016, 00:06:25
(http://i.imgur.com/tF2PUr7.png)
Post by: zoomwalt on Tue, 29 November 2016, 00:24:23
Post by: Potage on Tue, 29 November 2016, 00:35:44
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 29 November 2016, 00:38:21
Wish I had the money for a V2 Eagle.
Post by: duck0113 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 01:18:23
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 01:20:42
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 29 November 2016, 01:31:51
Is the RGB is just for the case or the keycaps too?
Thanks
Post by: neralo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 01:34:22
Hi there, noob question!The viper is the one in the hhkb style, with the blocked corners in the bottom left and right.
Which one is viper and which one is eagle? im a little confused
This is sorely tempting but I'm dangerously close to my spending quota for this months pay. Guess I'll wait for r3, whenever that may be. Good luck to all who entered!
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Post by: ntw on Tue, 29 November 2016, 01:55:21
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:04:52
cheaper than X60!! :dogethink:
u r right!
Post by: SaySo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:06:55
Post by: poolside on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:07:38
Post by: mrboovn on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:10:10
I agreecheaper than X60!! :dogethink:
u r right!
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:11:26
NiceI agreecheaper than X60!! :dogethink:
u r right!
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Post by: hoanglh94 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:29:34
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:33:45
please don't die.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:35:02
The past few days have probably taken a few months off my life expectancy
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:41:46
Or is there a completed version of this keyboard that i can just buy it?
Sorry im newbie :(
Thanks
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:42:00
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 02:44:30
Hi, If i buy this keyboard, do i have to install all the switches by my self and put keycaps on? is there a video show how to do it?
Or is there a completed version of this keyboard that i can just buy it?
Sorry im newbie :(
Thanks
You have to bring your own switches and stabilizers and do the soldering yourself. Alternatively you can look for someone to do the soldering for you. This is a VERY high value board so sending it to someone for soldering is taking a HIGH risk.
Completed, built versions of this board will probably be a LOT more expensive on the aftermarket.
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 03:46:36
Hi, If i buy this keyboard, do i have to install all the switches by my self and put keycaps on? is there a video show how to do it?
Or is there a completed version of this keyboard that i can just buy it?
Sorry im newbie :(
Thanks
You have to bring your own switches and stabilizers and do the soldering yourself. Alternatively you can look for someone to do the soldering for you. This is a VERY high value board so sending it to someone for soldering is taking a HIGH risk.
Completed, built versions of this board will probably be a LOT more expensive on the aftermarket.
Surely you would only have to post the plate and PCB if you were getting someone else to assemble?
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 29 November 2016, 03:51:36
Hi, If i buy this keyboard, do i have to install all the switches by my self and put keycaps on? is there a video show how to do it?
Or is there a completed version of this keyboard that i can just buy it?
Sorry im newbie :(
Thanks
You have to bring your own switches and stabilizers and do the soldering yourself. Alternatively you can look for someone to do the soldering for you. This is a VERY high value board so sending it to someone for soldering is taking a HIGH risk.
Completed, built versions of this board will probably be a LOT more expensive on the aftermarket.
Surely you would only have to post the plate and PCB if you were getting someone else to assemble?
^^
There are plenty of good folk around here who would do this for a small fee
Post by: rioc on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:13:42
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:20:00
about to hit the order button when I realized, I'd like to know how the Silver-Case option looks like with the LEDs lit up... any pics of that?
Order now. This GB is limited to 100pc. You can still change colors later if you must.
Post by: jackie321304 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:21:26
Post by: jhoang on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:22:15
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:23:21
No 100% sure how to order lol... if I order one without select "Extra PCB + Plate" do I still get a PCB and plate? Also what is SS?? Thanks
Only select for extra PCB and plate if you want to receive two PCBs and two plates.
SS = Stainless Steel
Post by: rioc on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:27:51
about to hit the order button when I realized, I'd like to know how the Silver-Case option looks like with the LEDs lit up... any pics of that?
Order now. This GB is limited to 100pc. You can still change colors later if you must.
ok done... went with black viper... probably gonna stick with that unless silver looks that much better...
EDIT: PS: Anybody got a Viper / HHKB style case with a 6.25U spacebar? (and can provide pics). really wondering how that would look like...
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:39:30
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:48:27
about to hit the order button when I realized, I'd like to know how the Silver-Case option looks like with the LEDs lit up... any pics of that?
Order now. This GB is limited to 100pc. You can still change colors later if you must.
I haven't seen any HHKB style with a 6.25 spacebar
Pretty much all of the ones I have seen use a 7u
ok done... went with black viper... probably gonna stick with that unless silver looks that much better...
EDIT: PS: Anybody got a Viper / HHKB style case with a 6.25U spacebar? (and can provide pics). really wondering how that would look like...
Post by: rioc on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:55:10
about to hit the order button when I realized, I'd like to know how the Silver-Case option looks like with the LEDs lit up... any pics of that?
Order now. This GB is limited to 100pc. You can still change colors later if you must.
I haven't seen any HHKB style with a 6.25 spacebar
Pretty much all of the ones I have seen use a 7u
ok done... went with black viper... probably gonna stick with that unless silver looks that much better...
EDIT: PS: Anybody got a Viper / HHKB style case with a 6.25U spacebar? (and can provide pics). really wondering how that would look like...
yeah, me too... somehow it's very intriguing. But I'd have to see it to know if it also looks good, or if I should go with the full symetry on the bottom row
Post by: jackie321304 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 04:59:00
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Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 05:03:24
Alu offers more colors and flexes a little more. That "little more" does give the keyboard a VERY slightly different characteristic, letting your fingers land just a tiny bit softer when hacking at it.
If you're the guy clipping stabs and hacking caps ... the
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 29 November 2016, 05:04:55
Post by: WOMBO on Tue, 29 November 2016, 05:47:39
let's gooooooooooooooo
(expensive-ish though : ( )
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:13:06
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:16:03
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:16:26
Good morning guys! Sheet will be updated later today. I'll also respond to your PMs later. Thanks for your support and interest ;)!Thanks & Stay awesome!
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Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:19:37
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:20:36
Huh, is 7 degrees the new Duck angle? They used to be all 11 right? Would have changed my keyboard history greatly if the earlier buys were 7 degrees.Duck already replied earlier stating that it would 11 degrees not 7.
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Post by: rioc on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:22:10
...STS (as a German, I am having a hard time with the SS)...
Hahaha, so you must also have similar issues with the SA Keycap profile right? :D
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 06:57:51
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 07:05:23
Just as a quick update. We have reached 140 orders! I'll try to have the sheet updated by 1pm EST, otherwise around 7pm EST after work.
Whoah, I'm glad I'm not interested in sixties anymore. Lightsaver when?
Post by: rioc on Tue, 29 November 2016, 07:09:48
Just as a quick update. We have reached 140 orders! I'll try to have the sheet updated by 1pm EST, otherwise around 7pm EST after work.
So I might have been too late regarding it's limited to a 100?
Post by: sonic2911 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 08:53:59
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:01:09
Alu and ss plate, what's the difference?
Stainless steel will be stiffer and heavier. Some people prefer the stiffness more for linear switches.
Post by: Dongulator on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:31:49
Just as a quick update. We have reached 140 orders! I'll try to have the sheet updated by 1pm EST, otherwise around 7pm EST after work.
damn.. didn't catch this.. late order for me :(
Post by: phruitpie on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:42:08
about to hit the order button when I realized, I'd like to know how the Silver-Case option looks like with the LEDs lit up... any pics of that?
Picture courtesy of Sygaldry :)
(http://i.imgur.com/nZdsxez.jpg)
Post by: trexous on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:44:33
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:48:23
curious now, is this going to be FCFS or raffle style? Or if possible raise the amount being sold? :DMost likely FCFS with a waiting list like before.
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Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:54:05
So ... keep signing up, hope is not lost yet!
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:11:38
Good luck everyone!
Post by: KetchyKech on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:40:09
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:52:00
Thanks Elton!
Post by: Gajible on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:52:37
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:55:12
Made it on the list :thumb:
Thanks Elton!
The list is down for me :o
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:56:16
Made it on the list :thumb:
Thanks Elton!
The list is down for me :o
It was up for a brief second, it's down for me as well now though.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 11:59:27
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:00:10
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:01:41
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:01:53
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
I don't think they will as people have ordered multiple boards in the past in Duck buys.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:02:42
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:03:19
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:03:34
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
In the OP they said the GB would be limited to "100 sets" ... I figured that meant 100 slots for participants, not boards.
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:04:11
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Post by: hatran87 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:04:23
Sorry...had to add numbers. It's up now!thank you for the update, congratz ppl who have slot :thumb:
anw is it 105 limit now or still 100 :'(
Post by: nsmechkb on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:05:15
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:05:30
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:07:49
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
Post by: Undone on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:09:46
nor do I understand starting a group buy at midnight
whatever, just not exactly happy with how that went
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:10:01
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
Post by: Potage on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:10:01
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:12:58
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
No, you had the exact same opportunity they did to enter the sale and try to win a slot. But seeing them sold for inflated prices upsets me but it will only stop when people don't buy them for inflated prices.
Post by: nsmechkb on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:13:17
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
Two people have three boards. Another ~10 have two boards. I agree with you, fruitless as that sentiment may be.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:14:16
As a collector, I am interested in owning one of each, there is no other way to achieve this than ordering twice. Smart people just used a different nick for their second submission ... lesson learned ;)
Post by: mrboovn on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:15:21
is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:16:53
is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
That's pretty bogus. I was going to join this if I didn't win 910 yesterday, and would've been pretty peeved if I missed out because submitted three times in a row.
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:16:57
I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
No, you had the exact same opportunity they did to enter the sale and try to win a slot. But seeing them sold for inflated prices upsets me but it will only stop when people don't buy them for inflated prices.
So if someone got in first and submitted 50 entries before the other 50 filled up would you consider that to be fair?
I don't agree with FCFS anyway as it doesn't give everyone a fair chance to enter. I'm from the UK and when I woke up the group buy had already been up for a while.
Post by: romevi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:22:15
Post by: hatran87 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:24:17
Post by: nsmechkb on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:25:09
Anyone shaming the people that bought two ... please consider this is a two keyboard GB!
As a collector, I am interested in owning one of each, there is no other way to achieve this than ordering twice. Smart people just used a different nick for their second submission ... lesson learned ;)
Nobody is shaming anyone.
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:25:41
is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Post by: mrboovn on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:28:59
Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:31:13
Anyone shaming the people that bought two ... please consider this is a two keyboard GB!Well. 2nd nick is not needed because you don't need to care what people say. Unless you feel guilty because you want to flip it.
As a collector, I am interested in owning one of each, there is no other way to achieve this than ordering twice. Smart people just used a different nick for their second submission ... lesson learned ;)
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Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:35:06
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
To be frank, you probably should have stalked the Blackbird GB like everyone else.
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:35:28
Went and counted. Of the 105, 14 are duplicates, and 2 are triplicates. :confused:There are 2 design. 2 colour. Make sense if getting 2. 3 however, let's just hope they don't buy to flip. Maybe for friend. Who knows.
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Post by: catweewee on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:36:56
Post by: mrboovn on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:37:15
Anyone shaming the people that bought two ... please consider this is a two keyboard GB!Lol you don't need second account.People cries in every GB ,even it FCFS or raffle.
As a collector, I am interested in owning one of each, there is no other way to achieve this than ordering twice. Smart people just used a different nick for their second submission ... lesson learned ;)
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:37:29
I should have gotten 2
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:38:29
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Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:40:04
Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
Post by: nsmechkb on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:45:00
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
These guys can't do anything about it, but maybe sending the group buy runner a polite request to run the R3 GB on a one-board-per-person basis would be productive--you know, when the current group buy excitement has died down.
Here's hoping for better luck next time!
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:45:16
Better and fairer such as? Raffle is unfair for those that follow their news closely to get here and join asap. Fcfs is unfair like you said.Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
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Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:49:12
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
These guys can't do anything about it, but maybe sending the group buy runner a polite request to run the R3 GB on a one-board-per-person basis would be productive--you know, when the current group buy excitement has died down.
Here's hoping for better luck next time!
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
These guys can't do anything about it, but maybe sending the group buy runner a polite request to run the R3 GB on a one-board-per-person basis would be productive--you know, when the current group buy excitement has died down.
Here's hoping for better luck next time!
Agreed. I'm not very hopeful that It will be different next time but worth a shot!
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:52:39
Better and fairer such as? Raffle is unfair for those that follow their news closely to get here and join asap. Fcfs is unfair like you said.Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
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It would be fairer as more people can enter. Surely you can see that?
Not everyone has the free time to refresh geekhack constantly. That doesn't mean that they don't want the board as much.
Post by: -musubi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:53:09
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 12:54:22
But that is unfair for those that want both design. And how about those that want to save shipping so 1 order for 3 from his or hers country.Better and fairer such as? Raffle is unfair for those that follow their news closely to get here and join asap. Fcfs is unfair like you said.Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
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It would be fairer as more people can enter. Surely you can see that?
Not everyone has the free time to refresh geekhack constantly. That doesn't mean that they don't want the board as much.
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Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:01:12
But that is unfair for those that want both design. And how about those that want to save shipping so 1 order for 3 from his or hers country.Better and fairer such as? Raffle is unfair for those that follow their news closely to get here and join asap. Fcfs is unfair like you said.Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
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It would be fairer as more people can enter. Surely you can see that?
Not everyone has the free time to refresh geekhack constantly. That doesn't mean that they don't want the board as much.
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We are clearly not going to agree so let's just leave it at that.
Post by: Zackfoo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:05:14
Yup. That's how Gb was and is. To me, as long they don't get it just to flip I'm totally fine with him getting as much as he want.But that is unfair for those that want both design. And how about those that want to save shipping so 1 order for 3 from his or hers country.Better and fairer such as? Raffle is unfair for those that follow their news closely to get here and join asap. Fcfs is unfair like you said.Viper and Eagle are two different board,so why they can't join for 2 if they want bought.And some people ordered for friends to save the shipping code.is it a problem if someone want more than 1 ,and how you know they gonna flip it ?I noticed a number of duplicates on the list. Will these be removed?
With so much interest surely it has to be 1 per person.
There are numerous people who wanted more than one board.
Yeah I get that there are people that want more than one. But do you think that's the fairest way to operate considering there is so much interest in this group buy?
I had a quick scan and saw one user has at least 3!
I do think it is fair as the person has to go back and submit the form three times which could allow for the buy to fill up before they do. Ultimately it is the Group Buy runners decision.
It's certainly not fair on the people who missed out.
I bet some of those duplicates end up being sold for inflated prices as well.
It's not a problem. I'm just trying to state that it's probably not the fairest way to go about things considering how many people wanted in on this group buy.
Even now that I know you can enter multiple times I won't do so in the future out of respect for other people that want to take part and might miss out.
Also elton is too busy to RNG to pick 100 peoples from a pool of forms.
There are a few instances of people choosing two of the same board.
And I'm sure there would be loads of volunteers to help out if it meant making it a better and fairer group buy.
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It would be fairer as more people can enter. Surely you can see that?
Not everyone has the free time to refresh geekhack constantly. That doesn't mean that they don't want the board as much.
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We are clearly not going to agree so let's just leave it at that.
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Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:06:58
how about the colors?
if the keyboard only have one design but there're still have colors option.
next time people gonna say "it's unfair for people who want both colors"
if there's still have an option, people gonna say the same way to take more than one.
even they have different design but it just an OPTION.
you shouldn't quote any options to take more than one.
just my opinion.
Post by: aurora on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:10:25
Oh well maybe next time.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:12:48
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:16:01
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:20:36
There's room for a weight. I got my work cut out for me.In for a plate!
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Post by: viridius on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:21:39
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:22:45
There's room for a weight. I got my work cut out for me.Lol. Keep em coming! My Octagon feels fantastic - it would make a fantastic weapon. Thanks Merlin!
Post by: ramnes on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:37:45
Post by: zoomwalt on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:42:41
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:44:36
Post by: phruitpie on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:49:26
So it looks like people prefer the Viper to the Eagle. Can someone explain what the mass appeal of the HHKB layout is?
Ctrl and Backspace are in much more optimal locations on the board.
Makes for less finger stretching and imo a more comfortable typing experience.
After using the HHKB for a long time I've also come to prefer the function arrow keys.
When typing on tkl now I feel like using the arrows is a chore.
Everything fits in its own neat little spot on the HHKB and topre is just the icing on top.
But to each his own :)
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 13:58:13
Also ITT:
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/7/7e/900x900px-LL-58cf3418_salt_intensifies.gif)
I can't say that I understand the thought process behind limiting a group buy when you know there are customers willing to buy more.
nor do I understand starting a group buy at midnight
whatever, just not exactly happy with how that went
You're aware that there are different timezones, right? No matter what time you start a buy, you're going to make someone upset from the opposite timezone.
Post by: Undone on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:27:59
You're aware that there are different timezones, right? No matter what time you start a buy, you're going to make someone upset from the opposite timezone.
You're aware this GB started at 9 PM EST, which is 2 AM in the UK, 3 AM in western Europe, 5 AM in Moscow, etc etc? Not a single one of these is a good time.
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:31:00
You're aware that there are different timezones, right? No matter what time you start a buy, you're going to make someone upset from the opposite timezone.
You're aware this GB started at 9 PM EST, which is 2 AM in the UK, 3 AM in western Europe, 5 AM in Moscow, etc etc? Not a single one of these is a good time.
For you maybe? You also seem to have left off the West Coast of USA, which would be 6PM EST, seems like a pretty good time to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: -musubi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:32:49
You're aware that there are different timezones, right? No matter what time you start a buy, you're going to make someone upset from the opposite timezone.
You're aware this GB started at 9 PM EST, which is 2 AM in the UK, 3 AM in western Europe, 5 AM in Moscow, etc etc? Not a single one of these is a good time.
For you maybe? You also seem to have left off the West Coast of USA, which would be 6PM EST, seems like a pretty good time to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As a west coaster, I completely missed this as I was out at a long dinner hahah :))
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:38:34
You're aware that there are different timezones, right? No matter what time you start a buy, you're going to make someone upset from the opposite timezone.
You're aware this GB started at 9 PM EST, which is 2 AM in the UK, 3 AM in western Europe, 5 AM in Moscow, etc etc? Not a single one of these is a good time.
There is no great time for anyone ever. There will always be time zone differences.
Post by: SevenU on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:43:15
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Post by: zoomwalt on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:47:06
Congrats to everyone who made it and that one guy from the country Fullerton.
That's me - Thanks bro.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:48:09
So it looks like people prefer the Viper to the Eagle. Can someone explain what the mass appeal of the HHKB layout is?
Honestly for me, it's the aesthetic. It looks much different with the blockers than a regular 60% keyboard.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 29 November 2016, 14:59:47
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:12:00
I live in the UK and had pretty much no chance due to my time zone but submitted a form as soon as I woke up this morning. Obviously I can understand people here being a bit disappointed as it's a really nice board but some of the whinging is pretty OTT. I'm disappointed I didn't get in but sometimes that's just how it goes, hopefully I'll get in the next one :)
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
People are entitled to express their opinions without being told that they are moaning or being salty. Not everyone wants to toe the line.
Post by: Undone on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:18:36
Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
I can appreciate your positivity but people who didn't get in on this now just have to hope this comes along again in a year or two, or a second run happens. It's a pretty frustrating situation which I don't think was handled as well as it could have been.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:23:19
Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
I can appreciate your positivity but people who didn't get in on this now just have to hope this comes along again in a year or two, or a second run happens. It's a pretty frustrating situation which I don't think was handled as well as it could have been.
This group buy was handled like any other duck group buy. Elton gave everyone a heads up in the Duck Blackbird Group buy thread.
Post by: zoomwalt on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:29:22
Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
I can appreciate your positivity but people who didn't get in on this now just have to hope this comes along again in a year or two, or a second run happens. It's a pretty frustrating situation which I don't think was handled as well as it could have been.
This group buy was handled like any other duck group buy. Elton gave everyone a heads up in the Duck Blackbird Group buy thread.
Yes. And I think we should all be happy that Elton even does these group buys - they are a lot of work.
Post by: Undone on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:35:57
This group buy was handled like any other duck group buy.I'm failing to see your point.
Elton gave everyone a heads up in the Duck Blackbird Group buy thread.I don't see anything on his profile prior to this GB since November the 4th. Unless you mean the picture form July, but I don't see how that matters?
Whatever, if you're happy with how this went then I'm happy for you. I'm just hoping for a second round now.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:44:32
I live in the UK and had pretty much no chance due to my time zone but submitted a form as soon as I woke up this morning. Obviously I can understand people here being a bit disappointed as it's a really nice board but some of the whinging is pretty OTT. I'm disappointed I didn't get in but sometimes that's just how it goes, hopefully I'll get in the next one :)
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
People are entitled to express their opinions without being told that they are moaning or being salty. Not everyone wants to toe the line.
Do you not see the clear contradiction in what you have just said?
People are entitled to express their opinions of displeasure etc but I'm not entitled to express my opinion that they need to relax and stop moaning? At the end of the day the guy running it is under no obligation to run it at all, and if he wanted to he could simply pick and choose people however he so wished (I realise this is extremely unlikely and would lead to uproar but I'm simply illustrating a point). You're right undone, the prospect of waiting 2 years is pretty gutting but I think we are lucky to have a community that creates a lot of similar high quality boards. I don't really see how much better it could have been handled really =S. There were always going to be a lot of disappointed people that missed out. I suppose it depends upon whether you prefer the method of first come first served or a raffle type system, which of these is better is pretty much just down to personal opinion I guess
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:50:50
This group buy was handled like any other duck group buy.I'm failing to see your point.Elton gave everyone a heads up in the Duck Blackbird Group buy thread.I don't see anything on his profile prior to this GB since November the 4th. Unless you mean the picture form July, but I don't see how that matters?
Whatever, if you're happy with how this went then I'm happy for you. I'm just hoping for a second round now.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83652.msg2310814#msg2310814
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:54:23
I live in the UK and had pretty much no chance due to my time zone but submitted a form as soon as I woke up this morning. Obviously I can understand people here being a bit disappointed as it's a really nice board but some of the whinging is pretty OTT. I'm disappointed I didn't get in but sometimes that's just how it goes, hopefully I'll get in the next one :)
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
People are entitled to express their opinions without being told that they are moaning or being salty. Not everyone wants to toe the line.
Do you not see the clear contradiction in what you have just said?
People are entitled to express their opinions of displeasure etc but I'm not entitled to express my opinion that they need to relax and stop moaning? At the end of the day the guy running it is under no obligation to run it at all, and if he wanted to he could simply pick and choose people however he so wished (I realise this is extremely unlikely and would lead to uproar but I'm simply illustrating a point). You're right undone, the prospect of waiting 2 years is pretty gutting but I think we are lucky to have a community that creates a lot of similar high quality boards. I don't really see how much better it could have been handled really =S. There were always going to be a lot of disappointed people that missed out. I suppose it depends upon whether you prefer the method of first come first served or a raffle type system, which of these is better is pretty much just down to personal opinion I guess
The comments that people are making can be seen as constructive and can be used to improve future group buys.
Nothing that you said was constructive, and you are basically trying to invalidate people's opinions by saying that they are just moaning.
Post by: vegs on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:55:29
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:57:32
Let the buyers be happy and I'm sorry to everyone who missed out.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:58:16
First off, FCFS is the only way. It's just the way the world operates and removes any bias that is possible with a raffle. Let's examine this on a very large scale... So you guys tell me that if the newest phone comes out, we'll use the iPhone as an example b/c it's probably the single most popular. So iPhone releases and Apple collects 10 million submissions over two days and then does a raffle? There would be fanboy riots in the streets lol. Not to mention that the iPhone releases according to local Apple time (in the US anyway) - aka PST at midnight, that's 3am EST...
There have been countless nights many of us have lost sleep over keyboards/new products to be first in line. A raffle isn't fair to those who pay attention, stay awake or miss out on other things to make the cut.
A) If you wanted this badly enough, you'll follow the boards, timelines, set alarms, subscribe to notifications and be there when it drops. And if you can't, you find a friend that can.
B) This is for two separate keyboards - if they were on separate GB pages this wouldn't even be a discussion. I ordered one of each and don't feel the least bit bad about it. I might be the odd man out, but if I do sell one, it will be only for the price I incurred - ripping people off is bad karma. Even those that sell for much more than they paid, well, that's capitalism. Don't buy it.
C) Running a group buy is an incredible amount of work. 100 submissions is extremely generous IMO. Elton is certainly the man too - don't be giving him any lip.
I'm sorry to those who didn't get on the list. I didn't make the 910 and was upset too, but that's life. They're just keyboards after all. The next hot design/maker will come along and you'll forget you ever were emo about this. I'm also sorry if the GB didn't meet your personal expectations, but this is the way Duck buys have always gone down. Elton gave plenty of notice in the prior GB thread (Black Bird) and there was like a 3 month warning that it was coming before the end of 2016. I'm not sure what everyone is so upset about.
Post by: Dongulator on Tue, 29 November 2016, 15:59:37
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:06:40
Seeing 3 pages of arguing/complaining I couldn't help but open my big fat mouth:
First off, FCFS is the only way. It's just the way the world operates and removes any bias that is possible with a raffle. Let's examine this on a very large scale... So you guys tell me that if the newest phone comes out, we'll use the iPhone as an example b/c it's probably the single most popular. So iPhone releases and Apple collects 10 million submissions over two days and then does a raffle? There would be fanboy riots in the streets lol. Not to mention that the iPhone releases according to local Apple time (in the US anyway) - aka PST at midnight, that's 3am EST...
There have been countless nights many of us have lost sleep over keyboards/new products to be first in line. A raffle isn't fair to those who pay attention, stay awake or miss out on other things to make the cut.
A) If you wanted this badly enough, you'll follow the boards, timelines, set alarms, subscribe to notifications and be there when it drops. And if you can't, you find a friend that can.
B) This is for two separate keyboards - if they were on separate GB pages this wouldn't even be a discussion. I ordered one of each and don't feel the least bit bad about it. I might be the odd man out, but if I do sell one, it will be only for the price I incurred - ripping people off is bad karma. Even those that sell for much more than they paid, well, that's capitalism. Don't buy it.
C) Running a group buy is an incredible amount of work. 100 submissions is extremely generous IMO. Elton is certainly the man too - don't be giving him any lip.
I'm sorry to those who didn't get on the list. I didn't make the 910 and was upset too, but that's life. They're just keyboards after all. The next hot design/maker will come along and you'll forget you ever were emo about this. I'm also sorry if the GB didn't meet your personal expectations, but this is the way Duck buys have always gone down. Elton gave plenty of notice in the prior GB thread (Black Bird) and there was like a 3 month warning that it was coming before the end of 2016. I'm not sure what everyone is so upset about.
This man speaks the truth... I on the other hand was too lazy to type it out :thumb:
Post by: nsmechkb on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:09:41
Just keeping the idea of utility in focus here: On the average, getting your first Duck Viper/Eagle is super exciting! Getting your second one, especially when the two are gained simultaneously, is significantly less thrilling: still really nice, but not twice as great as getting just one.
Losing out on the realistically hopeful possibility of getting your first Duck board and then just missing it is super disappointing. It sucks.
Every time an additional board goes to someone who already won in this GB, they profit by that secondary, lesser amount of utility, but another person loses by a siginificant measure, by missing out on that super exciting first board by Duck.
Boo-hoo-hoo.
Post by: Shados on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:10:14
Post by: Undone on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:12:27
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83652.msg2310814#msg2310814
This doesn't show up on his profile for me. Regardless, it tells me he opened the GB on 'Mon, 28 November 2016, 21:18:34", and what you linked says "Mon, 28 November 2016, 21:26:37". Maybe I'm missing something, but that's not much of a warning.
Seeing 3 pages of arguing/complaining I couldn't help but open my big fat mouth:
First off, FCFS is the only way. It's just the way the world operates and removes any bias that is possible with a raffle. Let's examine this on a very large scale... So you guys tell me that if the newest phone comes out, we'll use the iPhone as an example b/c it's probably the single most popular. So iPhone releases and Apple collects 10 million submissions over two days and then does a raffle? There would be fanboy riots in the streets lol. Not to mention that the iPhone releases according to local Apple time (in the US anyway) - aka PST at midnight, that's 3am EST...
I would agree that a raffle isn't fair, but at least the people who aren't there to get iPhones at 3AM know it will be available in the near future whether they get it at that time or not.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:23:33
I live in the UK and had pretty much no chance due to my time zone but submitted a form as soon as I woke up this morning. Obviously I can understand people here being a bit disappointed as it's a really nice board but some of the whinging is pretty OTT. I'm disappointed I didn't get in but sometimes that's just how it goes, hopefully I'll get in the next one :)
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
People are entitled to express their opinions without being told that they are moaning or being salty. Not everyone wants to toe the line.
Do you not see the clear contradiction in what you have just said?
People are entitled to express their opinions of displeasure etc but I'm not entitled to express my opinion that they need to relax and stop moaning? At the end of the day the guy running it is under no obligation to run it at all, and if he wanted to he could simply pick and choose people however he so wished (I realise this is extremely unlikely and would lead to uproar but I'm simply illustrating a point). You're right undone, the prospect of waiting 2 years is pretty gutting but I think we are lucky to have a community that creates a lot of similar high quality boards. I don't really see how much better it could have been handled really =S. There were always going to be a lot of disappointed people that missed out. I suppose it depends upon whether you prefer the method of first come first served or a raffle type system, which of these is better is pretty much just down to personal opinion I guess
The comments that people are making can be seen as constructive and can be used to improve future group buys.
Nothing that you said was constructive, and you are basically trying to invalidate people's opinions by saying that they are just moaning.
I'm sorry dude but that simply isn't the case. A lot of people are purely moaning without saying anything constructive. There have been some constructive points absolutely however. Aside from a raffle method there hasn't really been any alternative put forward by those 'constructive' people. I notice you have ignored quite a few things I said and replied fairly selectively but ok. Whether what I have said is constructive is up to interpretation really, I mean you can't just have people giving their opinion and then not have people that disagree reply can you?
Some of the people above me have illustrated things very well and in a far more articulate way than I have.
Finally, my sincere apologies for my contribution to this messy bickering. This has reminded me now why I very rarely make accounts/get involved on forums
Oops, just remembered another point I had meant to make.
I imagine if a lot of those people complaining had got in they wouldn't have any problem with the method used....
Post by: Nafs_asp on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:31:40
Seeing 3 pages of arguing/complaining I couldn't help but open my big fat mouth:
First off, FCFS is the only way. It's just the way the world operates and removes any bias that is possible with a raffle. Let's examine this on a very large scale... So you guys tell me that if the newest phone comes out, we'll use the iPhone as an example b/c it's probably the single most popular. So iPhone releases and Apple collects 10 million submissions over two days and then does a raffle? There would be fanboy riots in the streets lol. Not to mention that the iPhone releases according to local Apple time (in the US anyway) - aka PST at midnight, that's 3am EST...
There have been countless nights many of us have lost sleep over keyboards/new products to be first in line. A raffle isn't fair to those who pay attention, stay awake or miss out on other things to make the cut.
A) If you wanted this badly enough, you'll follow the boards, timelines, set alarms, subscribe to notifications and be there when it drops. And if you can't, you find a friend that can.
B) This is for two separate keyboards - if they were on separate GB pages this wouldn't even be a discussion. I ordered one of each and don't feel the least bit bad about it. I might be the odd man out, but if I do sell one, it will be only for the price I incurred - ripping people off is bad karma. Even those that sell for much more than they paid, well, that's capitalism. Don't buy it.
C) Running a group buy is an incredible amount of work. 100 submissions is extremely generous IMO. Elton is certainly the man too - don't be giving him any lip.
I'm sorry to those who didn't get on the list. I didn't make the 910 and was upset too, but that's life. They're just keyboards after all. The next hot design/maker will come along and you'll forget you ever were emo about this. I'm also sorry if the GB didn't meet your personal expectations, but this is the way Duck buys have always gone down. Elton gave plenty of notice in the prior GB thread (Black Bird) and there was like a 3 month warning that it was coming before the end of 2016. I'm not sure what everyone is so upset about.
Apple also has a per customer limit on iPhone purchases after launch, and continues to make the product available pretty constantly thereafter, so bad analogy there.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:33:16
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:33:30
I live in the UK and had pretty much no chance due to my time zone but submitted a form as soon as I woke up this morning. Obviously I can understand people here being a bit disappointed as it's a really nice board but some of the whinging is pretty OTT. I'm disappointed I didn't get in but sometimes that's just how it goes, hopefully I'll get in the next one :)
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
People are entitled to express their opinions without being told that they are moaning or being salty. Not everyone wants to toe the line.
Do you not see the clear contradiction in what you have just said?
People are entitled to express their opinions of displeasure etc but I'm not entitled to express my opinion that they need to relax and stop moaning? At the end of the day the guy running it is under no obligation to run it at all, and if he wanted to he could simply pick and choose people however he so wished (I realise this is extremely unlikely and would lead to uproar but I'm simply illustrating a point). You're right undone, the prospect of waiting 2 years is pretty gutting but I think we are lucky to have a community that creates a lot of similar high quality boards. I don't really see how much better it could have been handled really =S. There were always going to be a lot of disappointed people that missed out. I suppose it depends upon whether you prefer the method of first come first served or a raffle type system, which of these is better is pretty much just down to personal opinion I guess
The comments that people are making can be seen as constructive and can be used to improve future group buys.
Nothing that you said was constructive, and you are basically trying to invalidate people's opinions by saying that they are just moaning.
I'm sorry dude but that simply isn't the case. A lot of people are purely moaning without saying anything constructive. There have been some constructive points absolutely however. Aside from a raffle method there hasn't really been any alternative put forward by those 'constructive' people. I notice you have ignored quite a few things I said and replied fairly selectively but ok. Whether what I have said is constructive is up to interpretation really, I mean you can't just have people giving their opinion and then not have people that disagree reply can you?
Some of the people above me have illustrated things very well and in a far more articulate way than I have.
Finally, my sincere apologies for my contribution to this messy bickering. This has reminded me now why I very rarely make accounts/get involved on forums
Oops, just remembered another point I had meant to make.
I imagine if a lot of those people complaining had got in they wouldn't have any problem with the method used....
I honestly don't have the time or patience to reply to all the points made on this thread. But there has been way too much shaming on both sides. The problem isn't with the people that won more than one, its with the way the group buy was ran. And people that missed out should be able to voice their opinion without being called salty/emo or being told that they are just moaning.
And I fully get that there is no perfect way of running a group buy. But I do have a suggestion, open the group buy thread before opening orders, and give people 24 hours notice of the start time. I would have happily set an alarm if I new I had to.
Post by: shinz0 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:44:21
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:51:10
I live in the UK and had pretty much no chance due to my time zone but submitted a form as soon as I woke up this morning. Obviously I can understand people here being a bit disappointed as it's a really nice board but some of the whinging is pretty OTT. I'm disappointed I didn't get in but sometimes that's just how it goes, hopefully I'll get in the next one :)
TL;DR: Relax and quit moaning, keep an eye out for the next one
People are entitled to express their opinions without being told that they are moaning or being salty. Not everyone wants to toe the line.
Do you not see the clear contradiction in what you have just said?
People are entitled to express their opinions of displeasure etc but I'm not entitled to express my opinion that they need to relax and stop moaning? At the end of the day the guy running it is under no obligation to run it at all, and if he wanted to he could simply pick and choose people however he so wished (I realise this is extremely unlikely and would lead to uproar but I'm simply illustrating a point). You're right undone, the prospect of waiting 2 years is pretty gutting but I think we are lucky to have a community that creates a lot of similar high quality boards. I don't really see how much better it could have been handled really =S. There were always going to be a lot of disappointed people that missed out. I suppose it depends upon whether you prefer the method of first come first served or a raffle type system, which of these is better is pretty much just down to personal opinion I guess
The comments that people are making can be seen as constructive and can be used to improve future group buys.
Nothing that you said was constructive, and you are basically trying to invalidate people's opinions by saying that they are just moaning.
I'm sorry dude but that simply isn't the case. A lot of people are purely moaning without saying anything constructive. There have been some constructive points absolutely however. Aside from a raffle method there hasn't really been any alternative put forward by those 'constructive' people. I notice you have ignored quite a few things I said and replied fairly selectively but ok. Whether what I have said is constructive is up to interpretation really, I mean you can't just have people giving their opinion and then not have people that disagree reply can you?
Some of the people above me have illustrated things very well and in a far more articulate way than I have.
Finally, my sincere apologies for my contribution to this messy bickering. This has reminded me now why I very rarely make accounts/get involved on forums
Oops, just remembered another point I had meant to make.
I imagine if a lot of those people complaining had got in they wouldn't have any problem with the method used....
I honestly don't have the time or patience to reply to all the points made on this thread. But there has been way too much shaming on both sides. The problem isn't with the people that won more than one, its with the way the group buy was ran. And people that missed out should be able to voice their opinion without being called salty/emo or being told that they are just moaning.
And I fully get that there is no perfect way of running a group buy. But I do have a suggestion, open the group buy thread before opening orders, and give people 24 hours notice of the start time. I would have happily set an alarm if I new I had to.
Now that I can understand haha. I guess we are going to have to just agree to disagree on that in a way. I think if people are just posting childish whiny comments it's absolutely ok to call them out on it. If people are presenting a constructive criticism in a level headed way then of course they shouldn't be called moaners. There were people that fell into both these categories and my original point wasn't aimed at the whole lot, which maybe I could have been more clear about.
You see that second part is the kind of thing I think should be welcomed. You've put forward a feasible alternative and avoided doing it in a negative way =]
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 29 November 2016, 16:51:32
If I'm not mistaken, Viper V1 had an oddly shaped PCB but this PCB should be standard for both the Viper and the Eagle due to the two piece aluminum housing right?
look's like it
(http://cfile22.uf.tistory.com/image/267B873F583D2C551ECD6E)
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 17:14:44
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 17:15:39
Been thinking about my plate material choice; what do you guys think is best? I am planning on using linears with this board if that makes a difference.
Stainless steel is what a lot of people recommend for linears.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 29 November 2016, 17:20:11
Been thinking about my plate material choice; what do you guys think is best? I am planning on using linears with this board if that makes a difference.
Orion v1 is the first time I used linear with SS plate, and I never choose anything else ever again if SS is an option ever since.
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 17:22:41
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 18:09:49
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 November 2016, 18:29:35
Been thinking about my plate material choice; what do you guys think is best? I am planning on using linears with this board if that makes a difference.
I've gone the opposite way of most people, I'm hoping to do an acrylic plate for linears sometime soon. Steel can be a bit harsh and I've come to like the very slight flex my Zenith has to it with SKCL's.
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 18:55:18
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:00:03
Replied to a couple more PMs. I'm currently updating the sheet to reflect the final prices.
Doesn't look like the sheet is public, is that intended while you update?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:25:27
Replied to a couple more PMs. I'm currently updating the sheet to reflect the final prices.
Doesn't look like the sheet is public, is that intended while you update?
I'd imagine so asorry he did that when he was updating those who made it into the 105.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:27:58
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:28:49
Replied to a couple more PMs. I'm currently updating the sheet to reflect the final prices.
Doesn't look like the sheet is public, is that intended while you update?
Would you like to see me update each order? ;)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:31:19
Replied to a couple more PMs. I'm currently updating the sheet to reflect the final prices.
Doesn't look like the sheet is public, is that intended while you update?
Would you like to see me update each order? ;)
I mean that in itself could be some level of entertainment;)
Thanks for your work putting all this together Elton!
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:36:27
Got a Duck Eagle. Then I remembered how much I appreciated having the backspace in the HHKB location. Sooo, swapped to Viper. I also like having some more of the case top showing. Am I trying to convince myself? I don't know. Probably, yes. :cool:
Looks like the PCB is the same for both, so you could do a split backspace on either one?
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:43:29
yeah the eagle supports every single viper layout and moreGot a Duck Eagle. Then I remembered how much I appreciated having the backspace in the HHKB location. Sooo, swapped to Viper. I also like having some more of the case top showing. Am I trying to convince myself? I don't know. Probably, yes. :cool:
Looks like the PCB is the same for both, so you could do a split backspace on either one?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:47:24
Got a Duck Eagle. Then I remembered how much I appreciated having the backspace in the HHKB location. Sooo, swapped to Viper. I also like having some more of the case top showing. Am I trying to convince myself? I don't know. Probably, yes. :cool:
Looks like the PCB is the same for both, so you could do a split backspace on either one?
Savages! Where is the support for my decision?? Every moment this will haunt me.
Worthwhile info though. I do like having more of the top case show though and the feeling of the HHKB layout being standard on the Viper. Gracias amigo.
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:50:03
viper all the way :thumb:Got a Duck Eagle. Then I remembered how much I appreciated having the backspace in the HHKB location. Sooo, swapped to Viper. I also like having some more of the case top showing. Am I trying to convince myself? I don't know. Probably, yes. :cool:
Looks like the PCB is the same for both, so you could do a split backspace on either one?
Savages! Where is the support for my decision?? Every moment this will haunt me.
Worthwhile info though. I do like having more of the top case show though and the feeling of the HHKB layout being standard on the Viper. Gracias amigo.
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 November 2016, 20:17:27
I do like having more of the top case show though and the feeling of the HHKB layout being standard on the Viper. Gracias amigo.
+1, Viper is sessy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 21:37:55
Post by: tuco on Tue, 29 November 2016, 21:47:46
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 22:07:23
Sheet is back up!Will you start invoicing sooner since it filled up so quick or do we still have till Dec. 20? I might have to sell off some stuff to finance this
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 22:10:11
Sheet is back up!Will you start invoicing sooner since it filled up so quick or do we still have till Dec. 20? I might have to sell off some stuff to finance this
I was thinking of starting to invoice this Friday so we can get the boards ASAP.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 29 November 2016, 22:16:45
Sheet is back up!Will you start invoicing sooner since it filled up so quick or do we still have till Dec. 20? I might have to sell off some stuff to finance this
I was thinking of starting to invoice this Friday so we can get the boards ASAP.
Lookin like a couple months from when order is placed?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 29 November 2016, 22:24:37
Post by: hatran87 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 23:41:56
Sheet is back up!
Thank you very much elton, my dream came true :thumb:
Post by: ntw on Tue, 29 November 2016, 23:49:04
Post by: wodan on Wed, 30 November 2016, 00:14:25
Post by: gnmar2723 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 00:18:39
Elton took orders worth ~35'000$ in ~3h with a niche product in a niche community. I never thought that was possible, I bet you can get a whole shipping container worth of gaming rubberdomes for that money ;)That definitely puts into perspective the amount of faith we have in each other in this community.
Post by: sonic2911 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 00:22:36
Post by: thanhnv244 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 00:47:05
lol, shipping to VN is cheaper than to USIt will be shipped from South Korea, so I think it's totally legit
Just made some wrap-up here, the amount of Viper is so high
(http://i.imgur.com/Y5s7wer.jpg)
Post by: rioc on Wed, 30 November 2016, 00:53:49
Sorry...had to add numbers. It's up now!
the List is final I guess? :-\
hope I don't miss the next viper GB...
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 30 November 2016, 01:06:58
Post by: jal on Wed, 30 November 2016, 10:03:20
Every time an additional board goes to someone who already won in this GB, they profit by that secondary, lesser amount of utility, but another person loses by a siginificant measure, by missing out on that super exciting first board by Duck.
If we are going to analyze the ethics of duck keyboard acquisition, we really need to nail down our philosophical priors. You sound as if you're combing Harsanyi-style Preference Utilitarianism with Popperist Negative Utility. That's an interesting approach, but I'm going to have to ask that you rationalize the contradictions. For instance, how do you square negative utility cost-benefit with Harsanyi's postulate that utility is not extrinsically visible?
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 30 November 2016, 10:06:34
Will the plastic plate be good for either vintage blacks or 65g zealios?I'd like to know as well. I hear SS is great for linear but I bought a Plastic plate too. I think I saw Ergo clears and poly plates before on other Korean Customs.
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Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 10:22:18
Will the plastic plate be good for either vintage blacks or 65g zealios?I'd like to know as well. I hear SS is great for linear but I bought a Plastic plate too. I think I saw Ergo clears and poly plates before on other Korean Customs.
As less flex is preferred for linears, I'd assume that a plastic plate would be best suited for tactile as it provides more flex than aluminum. That being said, I've seem some kustoms with vintage blacks and plastic plates :confused:
If I were to go with tactile switches for this build, I think I would try out a plastic plate... More bounce for the ounce.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 30 November 2016, 10:32:43
Yup, gonna do steel and linear and tactile and plastic (If I like linear and plastic I'll do double linear) and the have a case made (Ziptyze's 3D print/commission?) for the second PCB so at the very least I'll have 2-ish keyboards.Will the plastic plate be good for either vintage blacks or 65g zealios?I'd like to know as well. I hear SS is great for linear but I bought a Plastic plate too. I think I saw Ergo clears and poly plates before on other Korean Customs.
As less flex is preferred for linears, I'd assume that a plastic plate would be best suited for tactile as it provides more flex than aluminum. That being said, I've seem some kustoms with vintage blacks and plastic plates :confused:
If I were to go with tactile switches for this build, I think I would try out a plastic plate... More bounce for the ounce.
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Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 30 November 2016, 11:52:56
Congrats to those who managed to get in on this. I'm crossing my fingers I get lucky and Elton decides to make a round 2 ASAP!
Post by: ullr on Wed, 30 November 2016, 11:57:19
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 15:12:17
Sheet is back up!Will you start invoicing sooner since it filled up so quick or do we still have till Dec. 20? I might have to sell off some stuff to finance this
You will have until the 20th to pay. I will let you guys know the timing of the boards once all invoices has been paid.
Post by: Weiss on Wed, 30 November 2016, 15:50:06
Yup, gonna do steel and linear and tactile and plastic (If I like linear and plastic I'll do double linear) and the have a case made (Ziptyze's 3D print/commission?) for the second PCB so at the very least I'll have 2-ish keyboards.Will the plastic plate be good for either vintage blacks or 65g zealios?I'd like to know as well. I hear SS is great for linear but I bought a Plastic plate too. I think I saw Ergo clears and poly plates before on other Korean Customs.
As less flex is preferred for linears, I'd assume that a plastic plate would be best suited for tactile as it provides more flex than aluminum. That being said, I've seem some kustoms with vintage blacks and plastic plates :confused:
If I were to go with tactile switches for this build, I think I would try out a plastic plate... More bounce for the ounce.
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As a note, you'll have to be specific with your case options. The PCBs do have a little extra on the top left of them for the indicator LEDs that you'll have to account for. Which sucks cos I had the same plan, and wanted to use an FMJ case but that's a no-go because I can't account for that extra part.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 30 November 2016, 15:57:31
Yup, that's why I mentioned commission. He's gonna have design a new case or I'm gonna have to do it. Hopefully someone else will like the design so Zip might even sell it. I see a few people buying extra PCBs!Yup, gonna do steel and linear and tactile and plastic (If I like linear and plastic I'll do double linear) and the have a case made (Ziptyze's 3D print/commission?) for the second PCB so at the very least I'll have 2-ish keyboards.Will the plastic plate be good for either vintage blacks or 65g zealios?I'd like to know as well. I hear SS is great for linear but I bought a Plastic plate too. I think I saw Ergo clears and poly plates before on other Korean Customs.
As less flex is preferred for linears, I'd assume that a plastic plate would be best suited for tactile as it provides more flex than aluminum. That being said, I've seem some kustoms with vintage blacks and plastic plates :confused:
If I were to go with tactile switches for this build, I think I would try out a plastic plate... More bounce for the ounce.
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As a note, you'll have to be specific with your case options. The PCBs do have a little extra on the top left of them for the indicator LEDs that you'll have to account for. Which sucks cos I had the same plan, and wanted to use an FMJ case but that's a no-go because I can't account for that extra part.
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Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 30 November 2016, 16:41:44
Yup, that's why I mentioned commission. He's gonna have design a new case or I'm gonna have to do it. Hopefully someone else will like the design so Zip might even sell it. I see a few people buying extra PCBs!
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I just picked up an extra PCB cause I am ridiculously paranoid when it comes to custom boards and their PCBs. The way I see it is that if this PCB were to ever go to ****, at least I'd have a second PCB to continue using the board. Otherwise, I'd have a $300 paperweight
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 30 November 2016, 16:53:25
I feel you. I might go hotlitte for one of them just so I don't have to solder.
Yup, that's why I mentioned commission. He's gonna have design a new case or I'm gonna have to do it. Hopefully someone else will like the design so Zip might even sell it. I see a few people buying extra PCBs!
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I just picked up an extra PCB cause I am ridiculously paranoid when it comes to custom boards and their PCBs. The way I see it is that if this PCB were to ever go to ****, at least I'd have a second PCB to continue using the board. Otherwise, I'd have a $300 paperweight
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Post by: jjanssen1 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 17:23:36
Just send me a PM :thumb:
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 30 November 2016, 22:05:20
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 30 November 2016, 23:22:02
Post by: satricion on Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:26:33
Sheet is back up!Will you start invoicing sooner since it filled up so quick or do we still have till Dec. 20? I might have to sell off some stuff to finance this
You will have until the 20th to pay. I will let you guys know the timing of the boards once all invoices has been paid.
I know I'm not the only one but I would be very keen to get in on this GB if anyone doesn't pay their invoice.
Post by: laughatpain on Thu, 01 December 2016, 17:50:14
Post by: hoanglh94 on Thu, 01 December 2016, 18:21:56
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 01 December 2016, 20:10:04
still waiting for invoice lol
Not friday in North America yet
Post by: ipreferpie on Thu, 01 December 2016, 20:59:25
What are the chance of an alps plate/pcb for the viper
That would be amazing! In for at least 2-3 myself
Post by: KyleZhuang on Thu, 01 December 2016, 21:00:00
Post by: Cony_WANG on Thu, 01 December 2016, 21:06:00
Just heard about an independent group buy of Viper/Eagle in China, did you guys authorize it?And the guy who run that GB is not reliable. His cmyw GB have not been shipped yet and he didn't reply any PM about that GB. So my suggestion is DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM HIM!!
Post by: cicada on Fri, 02 December 2016, 02:46:16
What are the chance of an alps plate/pcb for the viper
That would be amazing! In for at least 2-3 myself
If this happens, count me in pls
Post by: wodan on Fri, 02 December 2016, 02:58:27
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 02 December 2016, 04:40:11
Got enough Nixies for two 60% ... guess I know where they go now :)Hey me too! Alright!
Post by: anthorix on Fri, 02 December 2016, 05:16:11
Post by: jal on Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:27:05
Post by: hatran87 on Fri, 02 December 2016, 11:18:58
If anyone wishes to let go of their spot, please let me know. I'll take it with fast money.Hopefully elton wont allow anyone to transfer their slot :cool:
Post by: trexous on Fri, 02 December 2016, 14:10:11
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:38:52
Post by: breitling on Fri, 02 December 2016, 21:06:55
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Post by: Jumie on Fri, 02 December 2016, 21:40:14
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 02 December 2016, 21:51:03
Post by: Undone on Fri, 02 December 2016, 22:26:41
Quote
Q: Will you be running a R2 for this GB?
A: Most likely not and we will be limited to 100 sets.
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Post by: DanB on Fri, 02 December 2016, 22:27:23
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 02 December 2016, 22:52:20
Post by: duzeyao on Fri, 02 December 2016, 23:13:27
Post by: ankailou on Sat, 03 December 2016, 00:08:48
Post by: lishi on Sat, 03 December 2016, 00:51:29
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Sat, 03 December 2016, 00:54:48
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 December 2016, 01:52:24
Hopefully will get one tomorrow morning
Post by: Zackfoo on Sat, 03 December 2016, 02:02:51
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Post by: NoahNHP on Sat, 03 December 2016, 07:50:45
Post by: wodan on Sat, 03 December 2016, 08:48:53
Post by: CornCha0s on Sat, 03 December 2016, 08:58:00
Post by: ViệtNV on Sat, 03 December 2016, 09:47:58
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 03 December 2016, 10:17:50
Post by: Potage on Sat, 03 December 2016, 10:24:52
Post by: aznairjordan on Sat, 03 December 2016, 10:40:47
Post by: gaiden on Sat, 03 December 2016, 11:17:01
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Post by: wodan on Sat, 03 December 2016, 14:18:42
Also .. HYPE!
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 December 2016, 14:22:06
Are we supposed to say "Paid" here after we made the payment? Or is everyone just hyped after throwing their wallet at the keyboard? :) honestly unless it's required, a couple dozen post with the word Paid is pretty pointless.. Could have just said "I'm poorer now but thanks Elton you are the best!"
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I have crippling depression and keyboards are the only things that bring me joy to my life. Paying the invoice for this keyboard brought a fleeting moment of meaning to my life.
Post by: gaiden on Sat, 03 December 2016, 14:34:46
I have crippling depression and keyboards are the only things that bring me joy to my life. Paying the invoice for this keyboard brought a fleeting moment of meaning to my life.Sorry to hear about the depression... every keyboard I get does brings me joy and it seems everyone here feels the same.
I've seen GB runners say they appreciate participants posting a short "paid" after paying. Don't think that was elton though ...I see so there was a point to it after all, in this case, PAID! :thumb:
Also .. HYPE!
Post by: zoomwalt on Sat, 03 December 2016, 15:26:52
Paid, thanks Elton.
It seems like OC is a popular mech kb place. I'm from OC too!
Oh, and paid!
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 December 2016, 15:34:19
Paid, thanks Elton.
It seems like OC is a popular mech kb place. I'm from OC too!
Oh, and paid!
That's where all the cool people are :cool:
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 03 December 2016, 15:49:42
Will these stab fits into eagle/viper pcb?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers
thanks
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 December 2016, 15:58:39
Hi everyone, just a noob question because im a newbie
Will these stab fits into eagle/viper pcb?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers
thanks
yah
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 03 December 2016, 17:40:27
What about spacebar for eagle/viper pcbHi everyone, just a noob question because im a newbie
Will these stab fits into eagle/viper pcb?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers
thanks
yah
Is it 6.25u or 7u? Thanks
Post by: breckstar on Sat, 03 December 2016, 19:25:25
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 December 2016, 22:38:48
What about spacebar for eagle/viper pcbHi everyone, just a noob question because im a newbie
Will these stab fits into eagle/viper pcb?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers
thanks
yah
Is it 6.25u or 7u? Thanks
eagle can be 6.25 or 7
viper is 7
Post by: Shados on Sat, 03 December 2016, 23:12:54
Post by: nickysan92 on Sun, 04 December 2016, 11:16:11
Post by: renne on Sun, 04 December 2016, 18:21:15
Post by: thanhnv244 on Mon, 05 December 2016, 02:23:24
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 05 December 2016, 05:43:41
Looking forward to it.
Post by: jhoang on Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:16:05
Post by: anthorix on Mon, 05 December 2016, 16:16:48
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 05 December 2016, 18:51:25
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Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 05 December 2016, 20:30:06
I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while. :P
The quicker you pay, the quicker we all get our boards!
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:41:10
Post by: wodan on Tue, 06 December 2016, 02:00:02
Post by: anthorix on Tue, 06 December 2016, 06:48:45
Post by: jal on Tue, 06 December 2016, 08:31:53
Absence of a tactile bump doesnt mean all the dust bunnies are gonna suddenly want it more.
Didn't you know? Their legs are so short that the little hill is tiring, so they tend to look for switches that are easier to get in to.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 06 December 2016, 09:43:42
So I got a silver Viper with SS plate, and I want to make an endgame linear board. Got some of the new Zeal stabs to put on this. What're considered the best Gateron bottoms? milky, black, white (RGB), or clear (Zeal)? The tops? Thinking of using the linear Gateron clear stems. Should I get gold springs or use some 62gs I got from winkeyless.kr? And finally, what lube to use?In my VE.A, I have linear Gateron clears with 62g gold springs lubed with Vitorinox and Krytox. It feels fantastic.
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Post by: HungryStu on Tue, 06 December 2016, 23:19:35
Post by: ViệtNV on Thu, 08 December 2016, 05:22:58
Post by: Shiftshape on Thu, 08 December 2016, 05:38:19
Post by: wodan on Thu, 08 December 2016, 05:44:29
Post by: Shiftshape on Thu, 08 December 2016, 06:03:02
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:08:13
I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while. :P
If I was in on this, I'd already have paid. Just sayin'.
Well you're not so too bad
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:10:56
I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while. :P
If I was in on this, I'd already have paid. Just sayin'.
Well you're not so too bad
Haha yeah and as long as payment is made by the deadline who gives two ****s.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:16:50
^^I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while.
If I was in on this, I'd already have paid. Just sayin'.
Well you're not so too bad
Haha yeah and as long as payment is made by the deadline who gives two ****s.
Exactly - Payment deadline is the 20th
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Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:18:04
^^I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while.
If I was in on this, I'd already have paid. Just sayin'.
Well you're not so too bad
Haha yeah and as long as payment is made by the deadline who gives two ****s.
Exactly - Payment deadline is the 20th
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Yeah and I am thankful for that haha
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 08 December 2016, 17:25:36
I'm gonna have to cut it tight - still trying to sell my older boards lol^^I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while.
If I was in on this, I'd already have paid. Just sayin'.
Well you're not so too bad
Haha yeah and as long as payment is made by the deadline who gives two ****s.
Exactly - Payment deadline is the 20th
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Yeah and I am thankful for that haha
Post by: jhoang on Thu, 08 December 2016, 21:00:44
I'm gonna pay the invoice in a while. :P
If I was in on this, I'd already have paid. Just sayin'.
LOL.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 08 December 2016, 23:59:31
Lubing a smooth, linear switch doesn't make sense to me. You voluntarily add a time bomb to your switch. Lube will attract dust and age ...
Never heard this was a problem. I found my vintage blacks in my parents basement. Sure it was dusty, but the switches worked perfectly and the housings were super smooth.
Most people that lube their switches are going to take care of their keyboard so I doubt this will be a long term problem.
Post by: inosint on Fri, 09 December 2016, 09:18:37
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Post by: hoanglh94 on Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:43:46
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:04:30
For those that haven't seen: http://duck0113.tistory.com/142
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:10:38
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:34:29
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:47:42
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 13 December 2016, 03:15:16
Here're a couple of typing videos:
They are loud af!
Not cheap either, the korean gb is at 130 USD a set. Only blanks
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 13 December 2016, 11:50:17
Post by: KetchyKech on Tue, 13 December 2016, 12:20:39
Hey Elton, what's the story behind the PPS caps? Will those be coming to a GH group buy?
For those that haven't seen: http://duck0113.tistory.com/142
Yassss!!! I need these in my life :eek: --- let us know whats up Elton !
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 13 December 2016, 23:15:27
Yes please make a GB of these keycaps, im totally down for this one! So that will make a full set of my Eagle!!!!!Hey Elton, what's the story behind the PPS caps? Will those be coming to a GH group buy?
For those that haven't seen: http://duck0113.tistory.com/142
Yassss!!! I need these in my life :eek: --- let us know whats up Elton !
Post by: wangbwhz on Thu, 15 December 2016, 01:40:15
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 15 December 2016, 17:47:37
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 15 December 2016, 20:33:54
Post by: catweewee on Thu, 15 December 2016, 20:51:38
You'll still it make it before the payment period ends?
Post by: gnmar2723 on Thu, 15 December 2016, 21:32:06
Meaning?Yep I have a paycheck coming on the 18th so I will get payment in then.
You'll still it make it before the payment period ends?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 15 December 2016, 21:47:47
I might cut it a bit close but I will pay :p
http://i.imgur.com/FidZknJ.gif
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 17 December 2016, 00:20:32
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 18 December 2016, 21:12:33
Post by: Weiss on Sun, 18 December 2016, 22:24:56
Paid, can't wait. :thumb:
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Mon, 19 December 2016, 06:50:45
I pmed you about my payment, please check :D
Post by: kuang2 on Mon, 19 December 2016, 09:25:22
Hi elton,
I pmed you about my payment, please check :D
still can pay chamber23 for 1850 rmb my friend ^^
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 19 December 2016, 10:55:37
Post by: gnmar2723 on Mon, 19 December 2016, 18:33:14
Post by: renzpwns on Mon, 19 December 2016, 19:05:59
Post by: sonic2911 on Tue, 20 December 2016, 03:07:08
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Tue, 20 December 2016, 04:16:40
Hi elton,
I pmed you about my payment, please check :D
still can pay chamber23 for 1850 rmb my friend ^^
haha
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 20 December 2016, 05:40:51
I still haven't received invoice, contacted OP but no reply !
Youre not on the list?
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Post by: anthorix on Tue, 20 December 2016, 18:22:23
It's been two weeks, it's like you didn't even try.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 20 December 2016, 18:24:39
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 20 December 2016, 19:44:13
no problem. there are plenty of other ppl paying attention who will gladly take his spot. a tough lesson to learnI paid yesterday but the spreadsheet has not updated yet... I hope I paid in time
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 26 December 2016, 14:14:06
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 26 December 2016, 20:16:41
Post by: NoahNHP on Mon, 26 December 2016, 20:30:08
Happy Holidays guys! Keyboards will most likely be shipping around early February.
Awesome!!! Best news of the day lol
Post by: renzpwns on Mon, 26 December 2016, 21:17:30
Post by: Thanh on Mon, 26 December 2016, 21:18:07
Happy Holidays guys! Keyboards will most likely be shipping around early February.
+1 :thumb:
Post by: Potage on Tue, 27 December 2016, 06:38:51
Post by: jhoang on Tue, 27 December 2016, 07:06:06
Happy Holidays guys! Keyboards will most likely be shipping around early February.
Thanks Elton!
Happy Holidays!
Post by: HappyCatFish on Tue, 27 December 2016, 15:20:22
Will all of the boards be going out in early February or just the first wave? If this GB will be split into waves do you have estimates of when each wave will go out?
Looking forward to getting my Viper so soon!
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 27 December 2016, 17:02:45
Happy Holidays guys! Keyboards will most likely be shipping around early February.You the man Elton!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 27 December 2016, 22:14:20
You the man Elton!Agreed.
Post by: trexous on Wed, 28 December 2016, 00:25:53
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 28 December 2016, 02:16:21
Post by: trexous on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:12:31
Post by: wodan on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:19:28
ridiculous basically selling his spot for double the price.
It's what some people's korean custom game boils down to ...
Post by: Zackfoo on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:22:56
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Post by: trexous on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:25:06
Post by: Zackfoo on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:26:46
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Post by: wodan on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:29:12
"Selling" a spot to one another will get you into PayPal hell unless you receive the item from Elton first (His obligation to prove shipping to the buyer to PayPal) and then the original buyer shipping to the new buyer (original buyers obligation to prove shipping to the new buyer to PayPal)
Elton shipping to the new buyer enables both buyers to file a PayPal dispute and claim their money back.
Post by: Zackfoo on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:32:39
The only clean way to "transfer" a spot would be Elton refunding the original buyer and then billing the new spot owner. I couldn't imagine him doing that, there's a waiting list ...Yup. Best way is to basically resell it. I pm Elton about it. Not possible so too bad.
"Selling" a spot to one another will get you into PayPal hell unless you receive the item from Elton first (His obligation to prove shipping to the buyer to PayPal) and then the original buyer shipping to the new buyer (original buyers obligation to prove shipping to the new buyer to PayPal)
Elton shipping to the new buyer enables both buyers to file a PayPal dispute and claim their money back.
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Post by: trexous on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:37:04
Post by: Zackfoo on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:40:55
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Post by: wodan on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:44:37
And I don't think there's a huge market for a 2x the price slots. I think it is bad karma. I watch /r/mechmarket for certain offers and remember user names ...
People buying cheap stuff from me (mostly old keyboards ...) and I find them flipping them for a quick profit, they ****listed.
Post by: inosint on Wed, 28 December 2016, 12:49:01
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 28 December 2016, 16:35:23
@Elton
Will all of the boards be going out in early February or just the first wave? If this GB will be split into waves do you have estimates of when each wave will go out?
Looking forward to getting my Viper so soon!
First batch will be shipped out around early Feb and the rest will be shipped out around a month later.
Post by: HappyCatFish on Wed, 28 December 2016, 17:35:41
First batch will be shipped out around early Feb and the rest will be shipped out around a month later.
Good to know, thanks! Is the split 50/50?
Also I was wondering if you had any photos of the PCB. I'd love to see a few more glamour shots.
Thanks Elton!
Post by: poolside on Wed, 28 December 2016, 18:25:48
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
Post by: Weiss on Wed, 28 December 2016, 20:42:11
I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
grats my dude :thumb:
Post by: catweewee on Fri, 30 December 2016, 08:28:14
@Elton
Will all of the boards be going out in early February or just the first wave? If this GB will be split into waves do you have estimates of when each wave will go out?
Looking forward to getting my Viper so soon!
First batch will be shipped out around early Feb and the rest will be shipped out around a month later.
How many in first batch Elton? :)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 30 December 2016, 12:16:35
I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!Good for you man!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
Post by: jal on Sat, 31 December 2016, 07:39:30
someone tried selling me his GB spot for 600 usd wtf
I just got a PM from, I assume, the same flipper.
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 31 December 2016, 14:55:49
everybody knows if you want to flip, wait until after the gb ends
Post by: gaiden on Sat, 31 December 2016, 15:08:25
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Post by: yookwh on Sat, 31 December 2016, 17:02:56
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 31 December 2016, 17:19:14
Yes, he PM'ed me as well. I like the MK community - very informative, nice, and welcoming. But it's now come to the point where there are members who like to take advantage of the large influx of new people. I mean really, selling your spot for a $200 markup? A spot, and not even the physical board? Disgusting, to say the least. I hope at least Elton can take away this guy's spot and give it to someone who's more deserving, than a scalper. My $0.02
Well said.
Post by: gaiden on Sat, 31 December 2016, 18:09:46
I guess there are opportunists exist in every market but i dislike the ones that makes no effort to even appreciate what they had.. Maybe there should be a GB policy for something like this but it would be hard to police. Best practice is probably just to ignore them.Yes, he PM'ed me as well. I like the MK community - very informative, nice, and welcoming. But it's now come to the point where there are members who like to take advantage of the large influx of new people. I mean really, selling your spot for a $200 markup? A spot, and not even the physical board? Disgusting, to say the least. I hope at least Elton can take away this guy's spot and give it to someone who's more deserving, than a scalper. My $0.02
Well said.
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Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 31 December 2016, 18:10:53
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 31 December 2016, 18:15:15
Either way, shady behavior nonetheless. Shame on him/her for trying to take advantage of individuals that missed the opportunity to secure a spot.
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Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 31 December 2016, 18:22:12
I feel like everyone is referring to this individual like Lord Voldy, "the one that shall not be named."
Either way, shady behavior nonetheless. Shame on him/her for trying to take advantage of individuals that missed the opportunity to secure a spot.
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Complaining will solve nothing unless they inform Elton.
Post by: jal on Sun, 01 January 2017, 07:34:01
I feel like everyone is referring to this individual like Lord Voldy, "the one that shall not be named."
I didn't name them because I don't feel like getting into a pissing match right now. PM me if you're really curious.
Post by: catweewee on Sun, 01 January 2017, 12:36:32
I feel like everyone is referring to this individual like Lord Voldy, "the one that shall not be named."
I didn't name them because I don't feel like getting into a pissing match right now. PM me if you're really curious.
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 21:54:48
First batch will be a set of 30 orders and the rest will come a month after.
Post by: catweewee on Sun, 01 January 2017, 22:08:50
make it 40 :P
Post by: Butter on Sun, 01 January 2017, 23:10:32
Post by: lishi on Sun, 01 January 2017, 23:30:27
nooooooooooooooooooooooo
make it 40 :p
Make it 50 :))
Post by: byker on Sun, 01 January 2017, 23:35:50
Post by: yookwh on Mon, 02 January 2017, 00:31:59
Who is it? :O
First batch will be a set of 30 orders and the rest will come a month after.
If no one's PM'ed you, I can send you a screenshot of the user and the message.
Post by: DanB on Mon, 02 January 2017, 14:19:31
If no one's PM'ed you, I can send you a screenshot of the user and the message.
Could you send it to me too? Any sales I make will have them blacklisted, unless they want to buy my stuff at 200% markup :D
Who is it? :O
First batch will be a set of 30 orders and the rest will come a month after.
TFW 26 :thumb:
Post by: Prankk on Tue, 03 January 2017, 20:03:34
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 03 January 2017, 21:14:16
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 03 January 2017, 21:46:18
Does anyone knows where to buy the acrylic for this keyboard?, the light looks kinda nice with the acrylic!
The acrylic inserts?
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 03 January 2017, 21:54:11
Does anyone knows where to buy the acrylic for this keyboard?, the light looks kinda nice with the acrylic!
The acrylic inserts?
Hopefully it is the same with v1, as I bought a spare on the last GB
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 03 January 2017, 22:42:11
yes, the acrylic inserts in the bottom to make the light spreads betterDoes anyone knows where to buy the acrylic for this keyboard?, the light looks kinda nice with the acrylic!
The acrylic inserts?
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 03 January 2017, 23:17:49
One set of inserts come with the kit. Unsure if additional sets will be available for purchase.yes, the acrylic inserts in the bottom to make the light spreads betterDoes anyone knows where to buy the acrylic for this keyboard?, the light looks kinda nice with the acrylic!
The acrylic inserts?
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 04 January 2017, 01:41:31
But i did ask elton and he said it doesnt come with acrylic :(yes, the acrylic inserts in the bottom to make the light spreads betterDoes anyone knows where to buy the acrylic for this keyboard?, the light looks kinda nice with the acrylic!
The acrylic inserts?
One set of inserts come with the kit. Unsure if additional sets will be available for purchase.
Post by: tuba section on Wed, 04 January 2017, 01:46:30
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 04 January 2017, 07:42:57
First post:But i did ask elton and he said it doesnt come with acrylic :(yes, the acrylic inserts in the bottom to make the light spreads betterDoes anyone knows where to buy the acrylic for this keyboard?, the light looks kinda nice with the acrylic!
The acrylic inserts?
One set of inserts come with the kit. Unsure if additional sets will be available for purchase.
Price:
- $310 for one kit (top, base, PCB, plate and acrylic diffusers)
Perhaps he thought you were referring to an acrylic base opposed to the acrylic inserts?
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Post by: Thanh on Wed, 04 January 2017, 08:27:40
Perhaps he thought you were referring to an acrylic base opposed to the acrylic inserts
I think he were talking about side inserts like v1
More
(http://i.imgur.com/w45RV4a.jpg)
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:55:45
Yup this is the one im trying to mention!Perhaps he thought you were referring to an acrylic base opposed to the acrylic inserts
I think he were talking about side inserts like v1Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/w45RV4a.jpg)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 04 January 2017, 13:23:19
Post by: redbanshee on Wed, 04 January 2017, 13:41:24
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Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 04 January 2017, 15:53:58
You know who supplied the Duck Feet inserts recently(ish) is Leeku. The acrylic came with the Compact SQ. Maybe he has a source? I'm pretty sure his username is just "Leeku" also. Try PM'ing him. He's an incredibly nice guy.Thanks mate, ill try to contact him
Post by: poolside on Fri, 13 January 2017, 14:30:59
I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
grats my dude :thumb:
I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!Good for you man!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
That's even better now with merlin64 intending to run a GB for Viper/Eagle weights. :)
Post by: jhoang on Fri, 13 January 2017, 14:35:17
I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
grats my dude :thumb:I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!Good for you man!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
That's even better now with merlin64 intending to run a GB for Viper/Eagle weights. :)
Wow. Has it started yet?
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 13 January 2017, 15:36:38
I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!Not yet, after his duck orion weight inserts GB
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
grats my dude :thumb:I am not dreaming, my entry got bumped up to #100. Yay!Good for you man!
PM'd for an invoice. :)
Edit: all done. Thanks, Elton!
That's even better now with merlin64 intending to run a GB for Viper/Eagle weights. :)
Wow. Has it started yet?
Post by: Jeu on Fri, 13 January 2017, 16:19:13
Wow. Has it started yet?Not yet. He's probably gonna finish the Black bird/Orion one and then do it. But I am not him, not sure exactly.
Post by: poolside on Fri, 13 January 2017, 16:38:06
Wow. Has it started yet?Not yet. He's probably gonna finish the Black bird/Orion one and then do it. But I am not him, not sure exactly.
In a few months, according to the OP from the BB/Orion weights GB thread:
What happened to the Eagle/Viper weight?
That's happening next. Hopefully in 2-3 months.
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 17 January 2017, 11:27:52
I know this is a bit unconventional (too early/too late) but if anyone who has an Eagle top (black or silver) wants to trade for a Viper top (black) let me know, if you have a Silver/silver Eagle and wants to trade for a Black/black Viper I'm up for that too. Preferred USA/CAN based. Thanks in advance.
Post by: wangbwhz on Fri, 20 January 2017, 21:44:56
Post by: Jeu on Sat, 21 January 2017, 00:00:46
if anyone who has an Viper top (black) wants to trade for a Eagle top (black) let me know~ i was attracted by the viper layout. so sad to realized it until nowDid you message the guy that posted the exact trade you want above you??
Post by: wangbwhz on Sat, 21 January 2017, 01:07:57
thanks for your reminder. Yes, I have messaged him, meanwhile, i post the exchange request here so that i did not miss out any opportunity.if anyone who has an Viper top (black) wants to trade for a Eagle top (black) let me know~ i was attracted by the viper layout. so sad to realized it until nowDid you message the guy that posted the exact trade you want above you??
Post by: wangbwhz on Sat, 21 January 2017, 01:53:03
if anyone who has an Viper top (black) wants to trade for a Eagle top (black) let me know~thanks for your reminder. Yes, I have messaged him, someone already apprached him.I am too lateif anyone who has an Viper top (black) wants to trade for a Eagle top (black) let me know~ i was attracted by the viper layout. so sad to realized it until nowDid you message the guy that posted the exact trade you want above you??
Post by: gaiden on Sat, 21 January 2017, 08:24:08
Hi yes he did however there was someone already asking about the trade just waiting for Elton to respond.if anyone who has an Viper top (black) wants to trade for a Eagle top (black) let me know~ i was attracted by the viper layout. so sad to realized it until nowDid you message the guy that posted the exact trade you want above you??
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Post by: trexous on Fri, 27 January 2017, 21:06:47
Post by: aznairjordan on Sun, 29 January 2017, 11:31:03
Edit: has been paid for. Thanks for the interest!
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Sun, 29 January 2017, 11:51:06
Looking to sell my spot to fund the Mira :) let me know if you are interested in taking over. I believe it is a black viper with a SS plate.
Sent you a message.
Post by: trexous on Sun, 29 January 2017, 18:15:49
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 30 January 2017, 19:40:53
https://www.flickr.com/photos/photoelectric_effect/12125805674/
Post by: oatsbagotes on Mon, 30 January 2017, 19:50:04
Post by: gnmar2723 on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:59:38
I sent you a pm about an address change.
Post by: satricion on Wed, 01 February 2017, 21:16:15
Post by: Namkhanhv on Wed, 01 February 2017, 21:54:44
Post by: DanB on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:34:16
Looking to trade my Silver - Silver Viper for Black - Black Viper. Anyone interested pls let me know :)
I might be once I see pics of it in silver.
Where are you?
Post by: Namkhanhv on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:46:06
Looking to trade my Silver - Silver Viper for Black - Black Viper. Anyone interested pls let me know :)
I might be once I see pics of it in silver.
Where are you?
I believe the silver this time is still similar to Blackbird (http://duck0113.tistory.com/132)
Btw, Im located in Vietnam so it would be much better if we could seal the deal before our kit was shipped.
Post by: DanB on Wed, 01 February 2017, 22:57:52
Post by: byker on Wed, 01 February 2017, 23:58:01
Post by: krispy on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:04:22
Post by: romevi on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:16:49
If anyone wants to sell their spot for a black/black Viper please let me know! Thanks!
Aren't they just going down the list for people who back out?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:26:37
If anyone wants to sell their spot for a black/black Viper please let me know! Thanks!
Aren't they just going down the list for people who back out?
That was Xondat's way of doing it, from reading the past comments I'd guess that it's done differently here.
Post by: krispy on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:24:57
If anyone wants to sell their spot for a black/black Viper please let me know! Thanks!
Aren't they just going down the list for people who back out?
That was Xondat's way of doing it, from reading the past comments I'd guess that it's done differently here.
I have no idea. I'm just a simple GH lurker who's been in love with the Viper for a few weeks now ;) I completely missed this GB somehow..
Post by: xondat on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:26:43
If anyone wants to sell their spot for a black/black Viper please let me know! Thanks!
Aren't they just going down the list for people who back out?
That was Xondat's way of doing it, from reading the past comments I'd guess that it's done differently here.
It's the fairest way to do it! My way isn't really practised. And because parts here have probably already been made, it'd be hard to match up.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 03 February 2017, 09:32:16
If anyone wants to sell their spot for a black/black Viper please let me know! Thanks!
Aren't they just going down the list for people who back out?
That was Xondat's way of doing it, from reading the past comments I'd guess that it's done differently here.
It's the fairest way to do it! My way isn't really practised. And because parts here have probably already been made, it'd be hard to match up.
I mean it was meant to go down the list of people waiting but I guess people said **** that as others offered to purchase their spot.
Post by: DanB on Fri, 03 February 2017, 22:58:03
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 03 February 2017, 23:06:22
The issue is if people are willing to buy a board for more than GB price, you could just receive the board and resell.
Yeah or you could just keep the board and use it.
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 04 February 2017, 03:37:11
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4135026 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4135026)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 04 February 2017, 15:17:49
Looks like Koreans are starting to get theirs :D
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4135026 (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4135026)
google translate -
I received eagle V2 ^^
I chose black and silver black all black and distressed.
I will upload the finished shot soon ^^
are those guys bundling keycaps and weights with their kits over there? i would like to see that distressed plate, if that is what they are referring to...
Post by: gnmar2723 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 07:51:59
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:32:01
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:34:08
I've been advised that the first 50 units is preparing for shipment - no changes can be made at this time. I will respond to all other PMs later today. Please contact me first before you transfer your order to someone else. Thanks.
MFW I'm #42 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Edit: Thanks for the update, Elton!
Edit 2: More pics from kbdlab to build up the hype:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4140193
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4137536
Post by: poolside on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:31:36
I've been advised that the first 50 units is preparing for shipment - no changes can be made at this time. I will respond to all other PMs later today. Please contact me first before you transfer your order to someone else. Thanks.
MFW I'm #42 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Edit: Thanks for the update, Elton!
Edit 2: More pics from kbdlab to build up the hype:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4140193
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4137536
That's a nice 9009 silver Viper. The 'Deal' keycap is a neat addition as well. I wonder which board it comes from.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:37:03
I've been advised that the first 50 units is preparing for shipment - no changes can be made at this time. I will respond to all other PMs later today. Please contact me first before you transfer your order to someone else. Thanks.
MFW I'm #42 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Edit: Thanks for the update, Elton!
Edit 2: More pics from kbdlab to build up the hype:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4140193
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4137536
That's a nice 9009 silver Viper. The 'Deal' keycap is a neat addition as well. I wonder which board it comes from.
Looks like it came from this beast
(http://i.imgur.com/v1e3d.jpg)
Post by: poolside on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:59:48
I've been advised that the first 50 units is preparing for shipment - no changes can be made at this time. I will respond to all other PMs later today. Please contact me first before you transfer your order to someone else. Thanks.
MFW I'm #42 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Edit: Thanks for the update, Elton!
Edit 2: More pics from kbdlab to build up the hype:
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4140193
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4137536
That's a nice 9009 silver Viper. The 'Deal' keycap is a neat addition as well. I wonder which board it comes from.
Looks like it came from this beastShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/v1e3d.jpg)
Thanks! Such a (beautiful) behemoth indeed. Full size boards look pale in comparison.
Post by: Weiss on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:09:01
Yessss that means 2nd batch is just that much closer to coming. :eek:
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:14:34
1st batch shipping already?
Yessss that means 2nd batch is just that much closer to coming. :eek:
No first batch hasn't shipped yet. It is being prepared for shipment.
Post by: Weiss on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:23:22
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 07 February 2017, 18:19:02
Was thinking first batch would be more like March
Great work Elton
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 07 February 2017, 18:20:38
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4139011
Post by: JulienC on Tue, 07 February 2017, 18:38:45
Some more shots of the Viper V2 in black for you to all drool over ;)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&document_srl=4139011
Woah nice diamond keys !
Post by: zzyjayfree on Tue, 07 February 2017, 21:21:13
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 07 February 2017, 22:22:14
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 07 February 2017, 23:59:43
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 08 February 2017, 00:37:00
but I'm #56, damnit
(https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/avatars/E473812D2C1352847810483122176_5cfe0ade34d.21.0.jpg?versionId=JE3cQ9VQJWdVhmRIX6MnBfLN3Y0rdjLM)
Post by: renzpwns on Wed, 08 February 2017, 01:04:04
Post by: Weiss on Wed, 08 February 2017, 01:44:04
so... a little embarrassed to say, but this will be my first HHKB layout. can i get some tips/advice from those that daily this layout?
What do you use normally?
HHKB layout is my favorite and used it for a good while when my HHKB was my daily driver, but even now most of my boards have some sort of resemblance to the HHKB layout.
If you're coming from TKLs or layouts that have F-keys, you'll obviously have to get used to using the function layer for hitting F-keys. Lack of arrow keys is something to get used to too.
But really the only big things that you'll have to deal with are the repositioning of Control and Backspace. Honestly having Control where Caps Lock was is great for me, since it doesn't require you to exert force with your pinky to hit Control or do some weird twisting of your fingers to hit combinations. Backspace will definitely take some getting used to (provided you actually move it to the \ position), but I love it for reducing travel.
Sorry if this wasn't what you were looking for. But I'm just tryna help. ;D
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 08 February 2017, 02:06:35
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:25:13
thanks for your input, Weiss. i'm psyched to learn this new layout and see if it makes me any more proficient.
Post by: trexous on Sat, 11 February 2017, 05:28:26
Post by: Kubiedo on Sat, 11 February 2017, 16:09:46
Post by: wangbwhz on Mon, 13 February 2017, 00:34:22
Anyone looking to sell their Duck Eagle? :)I would like to trade my duck eagle(black) for viper(black). So if anyone wan to sell the viper(black) , pls PM me~
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 13 February 2017, 05:25:22
Post by: Weiss on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:13:25
Is there a tracking nimber once the package have shipped?
Yes, it should be added to the spreadsheet in the OP if I'm not wrong.
That's how it was handled with the Octagon v2 GB at least.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 15 February 2017, 21:49:00
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 15 February 2017, 21:53:43
Hi all, I was told that keyboards were being prepared for shipment, but I haven't heard back from Duck regarding the tracking numbers. Hold on tight guys!
So first batch shipping is 50 units not 30 right?
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 16 February 2017, 00:36:48
Hi all, I was told that keyboards were being prepared for shipment, but I haven't heard back from Duck regarding the tracking numbers. Hold on tight guys!
getting very moist for my tracking number
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 16 February 2017, 00:43:22
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 16 February 2017, 00:45:18
mmmmhhhm.
You feel that steam heat coming? That's from my undercarriage.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 16 February 2017, 12:05:58
Hi all, I was told that keyboards were being prepared for shipment, but I haven't heard back from Duck regarding the tracking numbers. Hold on tight guys!
getting very moist for my tracking number
Moist swimming birds sounds hot
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 20 February 2017, 12:05:56
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 20 February 2017, 13:19:51
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 21 February 2017, 04:24:05
IIRC the last Duck I ordered just showed up without warning. The same day I got my two 1080 FTW's in the mail. It was a good day.
I don't think I have had a better mail day than that
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 05:16:05
Post by: poolside on Tue, 21 February 2017, 14:32:20
IIRC the last Duck I ordered just showed up without warning. The same day I got my two 1080 FTW's in the mail. It was a good day.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/CkKg32KdKyMve/giphy.gif)
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 21 February 2017, 22:26:54
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 22 February 2017, 02:43:34
Sorry guys, I'm still waiting to hear back. I believe there was a delay from their end...I was told that they were shipping soon and then I've been told that it'll be soon. I'll update with any other information as soon as I find out.
Right on. Thanks for the update, Elton! :thumb:
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:07:39
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 14:09:26
Keyboards are being packed now!Great news, thanks Elton
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Post by: byker on Wed, 22 February 2017, 18:58:55
Keyboards are being packed now!
Hype is building! ;D
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 22 February 2017, 19:11:58
And post pictures of your creation! You can never have too many pictures!
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 23 February 2017, 00:27:27
Post by: DanB on Sat, 25 February 2017, 15:10:18
You lucky buggers. If anyone wants to get rid of their Duck Viper V2, please think of me! :p
And post pictures of your creation! You can never have too many pictures!
1000
/s (unless you will pay that much in which case PM)
Post by: yookwh on Sat, 25 February 2017, 16:27:01
That's all I've been seeing you post on this thread
Post by: DanB on Sun, 26 February 2017, 09:14:46
1 they are stupid
2 I like money
Post by: LDobler on Sun, 26 February 2017, 10:44:51
Post by: trexous on Sun, 26 February 2017, 22:08:33
Its a joke high price, but if someone honestly paid that muchWell i hope noone does lol
1 they are stupid
2 I like money
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Post by: trexous on Sun, 26 February 2017, 22:10:24
The sarcasm tag doesn't make you look any less greedyYou lucky buggers. If anyone wants to get rid of their Duck Viper V2, please think of me!
And post pictures of your creation! You can never have too many pictures!
1000
/s (unless you will pay that much in which case PM)
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Post by: yookwh on Mon, 27 February 2017, 12:24:22
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:56:29
Post by: laughatpain on Tue, 28 February 2017, 11:29:09
I'm assuming it's too late to change my shipping address? I'm getting the, will be being packed for another week and a half and be shipped as soon as I leave for spring break feeling.I'm in the same boat, any way to check/update my shipping address?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 28 February 2017, 11:40:10
I'm assuming it's too late to change my shipping address? I'm getting the, will be being packed for another week and a half and be shipped as soon as I leave for spring break feeling.I'm in the same boat, any way to check/update my shipping address?
Looking back, my Blackbird was shipped on Nov.18th and the first attempt at delivery was the 26th. I remember going through this same thought process then but with Thanksgiving break.
Post by: midnight2903 on Wed, 01 March 2017, 11:14:23
Post by: renzpwns on Fri, 03 March 2017, 03:07:51
Post by: byker on Fri, 03 March 2017, 10:59:34
Pretty stoked! Though I kinda wish I went for a plastic plate just to see what it feels like.
I went with only the plastic plate, so hopefully it meets my expectations! Going to build it with vintage browns.
Post by: Weiss on Fri, 03 March 2017, 15:53:33
Pretty stoked! Though I kinda wish I went for a plastic plate just to see what it feels like.
I went with only the plastic plate, so hopefully it meets my expectations! Going to build it with vintage browns.
What're vintage browns like? Only ever used Zealios and Ergo Clears, so wondering if it's a good experience to have.
Post by: byker on Fri, 03 March 2017, 16:28:37
Pretty stoked! Though I kinda wish I went for a plastic plate just to see what it feels like.
I went with only the plastic plate, so hopefully it meets my expectations! Going to build it with vintage browns.
What're vintage browns like? Only ever used Zealios and Ergo Clears, so wondering if it's a good experience to have.
I am not sure yet! Waiting for them to arrive, then I will lube them and swap the springs. I haven't used them before, but I have heard really good things from several people. Apparently a bit more of a muted bump then traditional browns.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sun, 05 March 2017, 18:14:24
Keyboards are being packed now!
Hi Elton, can we get a March update? will we receive tracking numbers when they ship? or have they shipped since 1.5 weeks ago? Thank you very much.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 05 March 2017, 23:22:28
Keyboards are being packed now!
Hi Elton, can we get a March update? will we receive tracking numbers when they ship? or have they shipped since 1.5 weeks ago? Thank you very much.
He'll update the spreadsheet with tracking info. I also am interested about when they will ship. Packaging seems to be going slow.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 06 March 2017, 11:50:47
Tracking numbers on a public spreadsheets? o_OKeyboards are being packed now!
Hi Elton, can we get a March update? will we receive tracking numbers when they ship? or have they shipped since 1.5 weeks ago? Thank you very much.
He'll update the spreadsheet with tracking info. I also am interested about when they will ship. Packaging seems to be going slow.
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Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 16:58:17
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 06 March 2017, 17:04:38
You won't see people's addresses but you'll see the city they live in.
aayyy merlin! you doing plates for this also?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 06 March 2017, 18:16:22
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 06 March 2017, 19:05:33
You won't see people's addresses but you'll see the city they live in.
aayyy merlin! you doing plates for this also?
LOL! Eventually. For this I'll be able to testfit myself
Post by: mindxthinker on Mon, 06 March 2017, 21:44:47
Post by: trexous on Mon, 06 March 2017, 21:53:11
Anyone interested to sell me mint condition Viper v2 (black / ss plate / extra PCB)? Seriously, I will double the price!!!Yeah just don't pay $1000 to the flipping greedy moron
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Post by: anthorix on Mon, 06 March 2017, 22:52:02
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:31:45
About half was shipped today and the latter half will be done in a few weeks or so.
Post by: renzpwns on Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:38:58
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:47:49
Guys you are in for a treat! I'll post some pics when I get time
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 08 March 2017, 20:42:07
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 08 March 2017, 20:49:09
Just in time for me to be on vacation, lul. I guess waiting for a keeb is vacation enough. I'm sure my girlfriend will understand.Your girlfriend, the Viper v1?
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Post by: inosint on Wed, 08 March 2017, 20:52:46
Tracking is up guys! Sorry for the delay.Thanks for the update Elton, this is good news indeed!
About half was shipped today and the latter half will be done in a few weeks or so.
Post by: byker on Wed, 08 March 2017, 21:32:06
Post by: Pemdas on Wed, 08 March 2017, 23:16:43
Tracking is up guys! Sorry for the delay.
About half was shipped today and the latter half will be done in a few weeks or so.
Awesome thanks for the update, can't wait! Hope I get my switches on time so I can build it right away :thumb:
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 08 March 2017, 23:21:18
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 09 March 2017, 01:32:09
Post by: byker on Thu, 09 March 2017, 01:36:15
Anyone knows if Duck undervalue the package or it is full value declared?
I really hope I don't get dinged on customs again, already had to pay $150 this week. :(
Post by: mrboovn on Thu, 09 March 2017, 01:52:10
Don't worry byker.Duck's packaging is :thumb:Anyone knows if Duck undervalue the package or it is full value declared?
I really hope I don't get dinged on customs again, already had to pay $150 this week. :(
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 09 March 2017, 16:14:58
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 10 March 2017, 06:18:09
Also, if anyone have a spare SS plate/PCB combo that they want to sell, please PM me, thank you!
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:13:39
Post by: breitling on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:57:32
Post by: tuba section on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:36:14
Post by: gnmar2723 on Fri, 10 March 2017, 13:38:59
Mine just arrived in Canada!
We need pics!
Post by: byker on Fri, 10 March 2017, 14:05:57
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 10 March 2017, 14:07:59
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 10 March 2017, 14:33:39
edit: anyone have instructions for this keyboard?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 10 March 2017, 14:56:38
Got my package this morning! gonna start documenting.
edit: anyone have instructions for this keyboard?
Someone may have something more comprehensive but the last few pages of the Octagon and Black Bird GBs had all the info I found I needed.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:05:27
Got my package this morning! gonna start documenting.
edit: anyone have instructions for this keyboard?
Someone may have something more comprehensive but the last few pages of the Octagon and Black Bird GBs had all the info I found I needed.
I meant physically putting the keyboard together. The diffuser on the front of the keyboard has some unidentifiable cutouts.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:11:12
Got my package this morning! gonna start documenting.
edit: anyone have instructions for this keyboard?
Someone may have something more comprehensive but the last few pages of the Octagon and Black Bird GBs had all the info I found I needed.
I meant physically putting the keyboard together. The diffuser on the front of the keyboard has some unidentifiable cutouts.
Oh, haha. You may be the one of the first to receive theirs. Mine isn't scheduled until the 15th. If it's like the BB then it attaches to the top of the case to some posts (on the BB it only fit perfectly in one orientation). Probably won't be any help but good luck sir and enjoy.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:15:19
Got my package this morning! gonna start documenting.
edit: anyone have instructions for this keyboard?
Someone may have something more comprehensive but the last few pages of the Octagon and Black Bird GBs had all the info I found I needed.
I meant physically putting the keyboard together. The diffuser on the front of the keyboard has some unidentifiable cutouts.
There is an image in the OP that should help with determining orientation of the diffusers
Post by: DanB on Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:47:48
Post by: finalarcadia on Fri, 10 March 2017, 15:56:00
Oh yeah, what a great little kit. The glittery silver anodization is amazing. Everything arrived in great condition, but one of the diffusers has a burn mark, I'll pm Elton about it.
Can't wait to build this! Going lubed gat blacks with sip sockets and 55g gold springs. Zeal stabs.
Post by: byker on Fri, 10 March 2017, 20:16:56
(http://i.imgur.com/j7a56zP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/b4BXrPz.jpg)
Post by: ArchDill on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:07:44
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:10:54
Man, all of these pictures posted are feeding my lust after a viper.
You didn't lust for one before?
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sat, 11 March 2017, 01:06:24
Does the plastic protective film have a burn mark or the actual acrylic?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DXqf6Vy.jpg)
Oh yeah, what a great little kit. The glittery silver anodization is amazing. Everything arrived in great condition, but one of the diffusers has a burn mark, I'll pm Elton about it.
Can't wait to build this! Going lubed gat blacks with sip sockets and 55g gold springs. Zeal stabs.
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Post by: ViệtNV on Sat, 11 March 2017, 02:33:25
Post by: laughatpain on Sat, 11 March 2017, 02:37:19
The bottom acrylic window doesn't look like sample
Since there doesnt appear to be a cut out on the bottom of the case, I think the custom cut of the bottom acrylic window is done to accommodate the PCB SMT components.
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 11 March 2017, 02:37:46
Does the plastic protective film have a burn mark or the actual acrylic?
Actual acrylic:
(http://i.imgur.com/fbwym4P.jpg)
Not a big deal since i can just flip it over, but wouldn't mind a replacement piece if possible.
Post by: nickysan92 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 03:43:32
Is the stainless steel plate supposed to look so....stained?
Will post pics in a bit.
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 05:13:15
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Post by: tuba section on Sat, 11 March 2017, 09:54:04
Just got my package today.
Is the stainless steel plate supposed to look so....stained?
Will post pics in a bit.
It was the same with the Octagon v2. The underside of the steel plate is pretty gnarly out of the box. The top should look fine, though, and the bottom can clean up pretty easily. Not sure why it's like that
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:04:05
Willing to sell my black/black ss plate Eagle spotPM'd
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Post by: gaiden on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:08:47
Pm'd as well earlier.Willing to sell my black/black ss plate Eagle spotPM'd
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Post by: PoisonKing on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:22:41
Also PM'd earlier :DPm'd as well earlier.Willing to sell my black/black ss plate Eagle spotPM'd
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:23:48
Haha, I think we all PM'd earlierAlso PM'd earlier :DPm'd as well earlier.Willing to sell my black/black ss plate Eagle spotPM'd
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Post by: gaiden on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:27:20
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/3c3175845b1b8a6d111229698791d4fe.jpg)Haha, I think we all PM'd earlierAlso PM'd earlier :DPm'd as well earlier.Willing to sell my black/black ss plate Eagle spotPM'd
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sat, 11 March 2017, 11:32:32
Just got my package today.On the underside or on the top of the plate? I can see laser burn marks on the bottom of the plate that's not brush finished.
Is the stainless steel plate supposed to look so....stained?
Will post pics in a bit.
Speaking of steel plate. I have a scratch on mine. Probably not worth it to get a new one?
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Post by: thanhnv244 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 22:29:18
Haha, I think we all PM'd earlierAlso PM'd earlier :DPm'd as well earlier.Willing to sell my black/black ss plate Eagle spotPM'd
Don't need any extra money, I'll sell it at the group buy price, just a little bit adding because of US dollar price drop
If you interests PM me with your location, I need to ask Elton if it is transferable to you
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Thank you all for your interest, I PM'd Elton to ask for transfering, now waiting for his response, it's may depend on your location
Sorry I can't reply to all of you, I'll update it here
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 11 March 2017, 23:21:52
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 11 March 2017, 23:30:37
BTW don't use zeal stabs for spacebar, screws can't fit with the bottom acrylic. Also they cause at least one short (that I know of) on the PCB if you don't use some kind of plastic as spacers.
That's good to know
Luckily I have exactly 2 screw in stabs leftover from my first viper :D
Post by: renzpwns on Sun, 12 March 2017, 00:22:18
BTW don't use zeal stabs for spacebar, screws can't fit with the bottom acrylic. Also they cause at least one short (that I know of) on the PCB if you don't use some kind of plastic as spacers.Damn, I was planning to use zeal stabs on this board.
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 12 March 2017, 00:27:34
Nooo i've purchase zeal stabs already :(BTW don't use zeal stabs for spacebar, screws can't fit with the bottom acrylic. Also they cause at least one short (that I know of) on the PCB if you don't use some kind of plastic as spacers.Damn, I was planning to use zeal stabs on this board.
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 12 March 2017, 01:01:13
Post by: renzpwns on Sun, 12 March 2017, 01:45:28
You can still use them on the rest of the board, just not the spacebar. But do something about the shorts, i used teflon tape.How'd you handle the screws fitting with the bottom acrylic?
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 12 March 2017, 03:19:12
You can still use them on the rest of the board, just not the spacebar. But do something about the shorts, i used teflon tape.How'd you handle the screws fitting with the bottom acrylic?
Badly :( Tried to drill 2 holes but 1 of them was too close to the edge and the acrylic broke into 2 pieces. Gonna rock the bottom acrylic-less for now and figure out a custom acrylic piece later. Or maybe a metal piece, not too much of a fan of the front underglow anyway.
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 12 March 2017, 03:31:28
Badly :( Tried to drill 2 holes but 1 of them was too close to the edge and the acrylic broke into 2 pieces. Gonna rock the bottom acrylic-less for now and figure out a custom acrylic piece later. Or maybe a metal piece, not too much of a fan of the front underglow anyway.
I'm not a big fan of Under Glow either... Should we do an IC for Duck Viper/Eagle V2 Aluminum Diffuser?
Post by: Pemdas on Sun, 12 March 2017, 03:44:41
Woohoo got mine today as well! Super excited to build it up. Thanks a bunch Duck and Elton!
Also is it just me or is the aluminum surface a little rougher than the last boards? Feels a little more "scratchy."
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 12 March 2017, 04:00:17
I'm not a big fan of Under Glow either... Should we do an IC for Duck Viper/Eagle V2 Aluminum Diffuser?
I'd be down for this. Maybe Merlin can make it happen alongside the weights?
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 12 March 2017, 04:51:16
My dumbass broke a bottom acrylic piece while tearing into the plastic packaging like a giddy schoolgirl. To fix I'm gonna scan it, throw it in illustrator tomorrow to draw up an .eps file and send it off to Ponoko for a new acrylic set. I'll make the drawing public after I get the first order sent and approved, post a link here and then you guys can order new pieces as well. I know someone else had a scratch or something? Should only be a few dollars for new acrylic (maybe $10-15?). Haters of underglow could also do black/silver acrylic, laser-cut metal or even wood -- whatever! I did stuff thru Ponoko before and it came out dope and wasn't expensive at all! They also have a new-member special where you get the first $15 free or something which should be enough for replacement plastics. I'll report back!You can still use them on the rest of the board, just not the spacebar. But do something about the shorts, i used teflon tape.How'd you handle the screws fitting with the bottom acrylic?
Badly :( Tried to drill 2 holes but 1 of them was too close to the edge and the acrylic broke into 2 pieces. Gonna rock the bottom acrylic-less for now and figure out a custom acrylic piece later. Or maybe a metal piece, not too much of a fan of the front underglow anyway.
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 12 March 2017, 05:10:28
My dumbass broke a bottom acrylic piece while tearing into the plastic packaging like a giddy schoolgirl. To fix I'm gonna scan it, throw it in illustrator tomorrow to draw up an .eps file and send it off to Ponoko for a new acrylic set. I'll make the drawing public after I get the first order sent and approved, post a link here and then you guys can order new pieces as well. I know someone else had a scratch or something? Should only be a few dollars for new acrylic (maybe $10-15?). Haters of underglow could also do black/silver acrylic, laser-cut metal or even wood -- whatever! I did stuff thru Ponoko before and it came out dope and wasn't expensive at all! They also have a new-member special where you get the first $15 free or something which should be enough for replacement plastics. I'll report back!
Doing god's work :thumb: Let me know how it turns out. I suggest skipping all the fancy cuts in the acrylic and just do a straight line where the pcb begins, to allow screw-in stabs and all.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 12 March 2017, 07:08:54
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 12 March 2017, 07:52:00
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sun, 12 March 2017, 12:11:47
I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
We might be able to sand a little bit off the diffuser to make everything fit. This really sucks. I installed my Zeal stabs already to the PCB....
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 12 March 2017, 14:49:44
I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.Same here waiting for a solution, we could ask either zeal or elton to figure our a way to solve this problem
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 12 March 2017, 15:06:49
I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.Same here waiting for a solution, we could ask either zeal or elton to figure our a way to solve this problem
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
As said above you could probably sand the diffuser but you would need to be very careful as acrylic is very prone to cracking when too much force is applied incorrectly
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Sun, 12 March 2017, 16:31:22
I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.Same here waiting for a solution, we could ask either zeal or elton to figure our a way to solve this problem
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
I just built the board using black pcb mounted housings with the Zeal stab wire and stem.
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:27:08
(http://i.imgur.com/20e6OWb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Df3SH70.jpg)
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 12 March 2017, 22:43:54
I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.Same here waiting for a solution, we could ask either zeal or elton to figure our a way to solve this problem
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
As said above you could probably sand the diffuser but you would need to be very careful as acrylic is very prone to cracking when too much force is applied incorrectly
Perhaps we can use a soldering iron and just melt a hole in it... :eek:
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 12 March 2017, 22:57:49
This might work!I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.Same here waiting for a solution, we could ask either zeal or elton to figure our a way to solve this problem
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
As said above you could probably sand the diffuser but you would need to be very careful as acrylic is very prone to cracking when too much force is applied incorrectly
Perhaps we can use a soldering iron and just melt a hole in it... :eek:
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 13 March 2017, 03:34:04
Post by: anthorix on Mon, 13 March 2017, 04:17:02
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 13 March 2017, 05:07:58
Anyone who needs a set of these just PM me and pay for shipping, a $5 contribution towards cost and I'll send you a set! Also below is a link to the sheet if you want some obscure material (wood, black out acrylic, a different tint etc.). The sheet size selected is the absolute smallest that would accommodate the front-side diffuser. Also, the set I ordered is materials>plastic>acrylic>opal. The thickness required is .118" or 3mm.
On the Zeal Stabs issue: Can someone send me a pic of exactly what is happening? Size, location of the stab causing issues on the diffuser etc. I think I have some around here somewhere (yeah, I'm being lazy). Maybe I can mod the drawings to accommodate the stabs and then you guys can just order a new custom set! No need to melt the diffusers lol.
Link to EPS files on the Ponko Store (free Public Domain use) (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068#)
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 13 March 2017, 07:22:06
Ok so the boards Ponoko offers are really big for the size parts we need... I was able to fit 7 sets of diffusers on a single sheet! At Ponoko you pay per sheet size, not per cut so it doesn't make sense to get a single set cut out from this huge piece of acrylic. It cost $48 (w/shipping) for the sheet (yikes).Wow what a cool dude thanks for doing this!
Anyone who needs a set of these just PM me and pay for shipping, a $5 contribution towards cost and I'll send you a set! Also below is a link to the sheet if you want some obscure material (wood, black out acrylic, a different tint etc.). The sheet size selected is the absolute smallest that would accommodate the front-side diffuser. Also, the set I ordered is materials>plastic>acrylic>opal. The thickness required is .118" or 3mm.
On the Zeal Stabs issue: Can someone send me a pic of exactly what is happening? Size, location of the stab causing issues on the diffuser etc. I think I have some around here somewhere (yeah, I'm being lazy). Maybe I can mod the drawings to accommodate the stabs and then you guys can just order a new custom set! No need to melt the diffusers lol.
Link to EPS files on the Ponko Store (free Public Domain use) (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068#)
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Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 07:28:41
Wish I had thought of that before I built my keyboard. I just used a PCB mount housing with Zeal stab stem and wire.I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that I cannot use Zeal's screw on stabs... At least not w/o having to tape the contact points on the PCB and modifying the acrylic spacer.Same here waiting for a solution, we could ask either zeal or elton to figure our a way to solve this problem
If anyone figures out the best way to get them in w/o also breaking their diffuser please post about it!
As said above you could probably sand the diffuser but you would need to be very careful as acrylic is very prone to cracking when too much force is applied incorrectly
Perhaps we can use a soldering iron and just melt a hole in it... :eek:
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Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 07:29:31
Well I have good news for anyone that wants/needs replacement light diffusers. Duck was gracious enough to email me the CAD drawings. He is such an awesome dude! I should have them uploaded to Ponoko shortly. Please stay tuned. If you're interested in the type of materials Ponoko offers that you could use for replacements see here (https://www.ponoko.com/make-and-sell/materials).Awesome!
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Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 13 March 2017, 08:50:09
Ok so the boards Ponoko offers are really big for the size parts we need... I was able to fit 7 sets of diffusers on a single sheet! At Ponoko you pay per sheet size, not per cut so it doesn't make sense to get a single set cut out from this huge piece of acrylic. It cost $48 (w/shipping) for the sheet (yikes).
Anyone who needs a set of these just PM me and pay for shipping, a $5 contribution towards cost and I'll send you a set! Also below is a link to the sheet if you want some obscure material (wood, black out acrylic, a different tint etc.). The sheet size selected is the absolute smallest that would accommodate the front-side diffuser. Also, the set I ordered is materials>plastic>acrylic>opal. The thickness required is .118" or 3mm.
On the Zeal Stabs issue: Can someone send me a pic of exactly what is happening? Size, location of the stab causing issues on the diffuser etc. I think I have some around here somewhere (yeah, I'm being lazy). Maybe I can mod the drawings to accommodate the stabs and then you guys can just order a new custom set! No need to melt the diffusers lol.
Link to EPS files on the Ponko Store (free Public Domain use) (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068#)
I'm interested in a set if you can create a diffuser that can accommodate Zeal's stabs. Thanks!
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 10:21:31
Anyone who needs a set of these just PM me and pay for shipping, a $5 contribution towards cost and I'll send you a set! Also below is a link to the sheet if you want some obscure material (wood, black out acrylic, a different tint etc.). The sheet size selected is the absolute smallest that would accommodate the front-side diffuser. Also, the set I ordered is materials>plastic>acrylic>opal. The thickness required is .118" or 3mm.
I'm interested in a set :)
Post by: inosint on Mon, 13 March 2017, 11:05:35
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 11:08:08
Just got my package today.
Is the stainless steel plate supposed to look so....stained?
Will post pics in a bit.
All SS plates have the burn mark on the backside of the plate.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 14:26:09
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 14:34:20
Happy Clacking!
Google Doc contains dropbox link to O2D 1.10 (1.9 too) + DFU.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
If someone could teach me how to play with the RGB leds I can add it to the doc!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:03:13
List as follows:
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:51:42
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 13 March 2017, 15:53:02
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 17:58:55
Can someone upload their viper .hex file? Having some trouble with o2d producing a working .hex
You using 1.10? If you've got a layout I could generate it and PM you.
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 18:40:07
All extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
Are you going to make one for me too :)? Considering you know ;)...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Post by: Shados on Mon, 13 March 2017, 18:48:53
All extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
I'd also definitely be interested if you can modify the design for Zeal stabilizer compatibility.
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 13 March 2017, 19:05:10
A bit late to party but in for 2 sets, with screwed down stabs if you are making more. I assume zeal screwed down stabs = gmk screwed down stabs..All extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
I'd also definitely be interested if you can modify the design for Zeal stabilizer compatibility.
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Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 13 March 2017, 19:31:11
All extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
Are you going to make one for me too :)? Considering you know ;)...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Yeah if you can make them for Zeal Stab compatibility I would be in for one or two
Post by: renzpwns on Mon, 13 March 2017, 20:07:51
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:34:56
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:41:48
Just finished my build, quick photatoes:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/20e6OWb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Df3SH70.jpg)
Sheesh, it looks better than I thought it would. I'm really hoping a round 3 happens in the future since I doubt I'll be able to pick one up. Props on the beautiful build!
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:47:42
Still waiting for a link to the software :( :( :(
if you didnt catch it, invisibiliti edited his older post
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:48:03
All extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
Are you going to make one for me too :)? Considering you know ;)...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Thanks for doing this onmybikedrunk. Very solid.
1) Happy to give one up for Elton if needed... also sounds like there's a lot more demand, especially if we can lick the Zeal stab issue between the lot of us. Mini-gb?
2) I'll get mine tomorrow and can take some measurements if needed. Not sure I 100% understand where the clearance on the Zeal stabs is problematic on the front spacer. I also found some very flat-headed screws today at work- hoping there might be an easy hardware swap fix since the Zeal stabs do have those lovely gold screws, but they have a significant head. If that perhaps fixes it, I'll send everyone who needs them screws.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:49:16
All extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
Are you going to make one for me too :)? Considering you know ;)...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Thanks for doing this onmybikedrunk. Very solid.
1) Happy to give one up for Elton if needed... also sounds like there's a lot more demand, especially if we can lick the Zeal stab issue between the lot of us. Mini-gb?
2) I'll get mine tomorrow and can take some measurements if needed. Not sure I 100% understand where the clearance on the Zeal stabs is problematic on the front spacer. I also found some very flat-headed screws today at work- hoping there might be an easy hardware swap fix since the Zeal stabs do have those lovely gold screws, but they have a significant head. If that perhaps fixes it, I'll send everyone who needs them screws.
Please keep us updated! Either a screw fix or a acrylic fix would be awesome!
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:47:32
Still waiting for a link to the software :( :( :(
if you didnt catch it, invisibiliti edited his older post
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
thanks mate ;D
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 13 March 2017, 23:31:40
please keep us updated, thanks for your workAll extra diffusers I had made are spoken for.
List as follows:But as I mentioned, the files are linked up here (https://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/duck-viper-eagle-light-diffusers-14068) and ready to be cut if someone else needs them. The design was just approved by Ponoko. It's also a store model so it's just a couple of clicks... easy peasy. I'm pretty sure I even have the acrylic material linked. I'll send out invoices in the next week. They're expected to be delivered in 10 days.
- Finalarcadia - 2 pcs
- smittysteve - 2 pcs
- aaron6301 - 1 pc
- inosint - 1 pc
Are you going to make one for me too :)? Considering you know ;)...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Thanks for doing this onmybikedrunk. Very solid.
1) Happy to give one up for Elton if needed... also sounds like there's a lot more demand, especially if we can lick the Zeal stab issue between the lot of us. Mini-gb?
2) I'll get mine tomorrow and can take some measurements if needed. Not sure I 100% understand where the clearance on the Zeal stabs is problematic on the front spacer. I also found some very flat-headed screws today at work- hoping there might be an easy hardware swap fix since the Zeal stabs do have those lovely gold screws, but they have a significant head. If that perhaps fixes it, I'll send everyone who needs them screws.
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 14 March 2017, 07:52:21
Dunno if it'll snap the acrylic but it didn't seem to put enough pressure to do so, but I guess I'll find out sooner or later. Pretty happy with getting to keep screw in stabs tho.
Will post pics of the board later.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 08:44:58
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 10:16:21
(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 14 March 2017, 10:45:17
Received and built my Eagle V2 yesterday. Packaging was on point and glad to say that everything arrived safely.Beautiful board, did u use zeal stabs to built your board?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 12:47:54
Received and built my Eagle V2 yesterday. Packaging was on point and glad to say that everything arrived safely.Beautiful board, did u use zeal stabs to built your board?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
No, using some traditional snap ins. Clear stab housing with black sliders.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 14 March 2017, 13:19:11
As far as the electrical shorts caused by the screws... Is this only happening in a few select locations on the PCB? Just looking at it I think I can see what's happening but just curious on other's experiences. Is there pin-pointed trouble areas? I was thinking that a painted-on electrical insulation might be ideal here.
Are you going to make one for me too :) ? Considering you know ;) ...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Considering... you're king of group buy organization and a super nice guy? YES. I'll PM you when I get the final product and send as many as you need. :thumb:
Thanks for doing this onmybikedrunk. Very solid.
1) Happy to give one up for Elton if needed... also sounds like there's a lot more demand, especially if we can lick the Zeal stab issue between the lot of us. Mini-gb?
2) I'll get mine tomorrow and can take some measurements if needed. Not sure I 100% understand where the clearance on the Zeal stabs is problematic on the front spacer. I also found some very flat-headed screws today at work- hoping there might be an easy hardware swap fix since the Zeal stabs do have those lovely gold screws, but they have a significant head. If that perhaps fixes it, I'll send everyone who needs them screws.
SWEET! Teamwork. Let me know what you find out. And no, thank YOU! I have no idea what's causing the issue either, but I suppose we're about to find out!
Received and built my Eagle V2 yesterday. Packaging was on point and glad to say that everything arrived safely.Wow. That looks great. You know, it's been a long time since I added LED backlighting to a board that I've built. This has inspired me. Looks fantastic...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:28:10
Received and built my Eagle V2 yesterday. Packaging was on point and glad to say that everything arrived safely.Beautiful board, did u use zeal stabs to built your board?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
No, using some traditional snap ins. Clear stab housing with black sliders.
Hey, that's what I did too!
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:29:42
Wow. That looks great. You know, it's been a long time since I added LED backlighting to a board that I've built. This has inspired me. Looks fantastic...
Thanks man! The bonus is that Duck's have many different LED presets available (if you didn't already know), which gives you plenty of options to choose from.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:45:02
Ok wow, so more people need Zeal compatibility than I realized. I'll stop being lazy now. I have the board, the stabs, calipers and a brain -- no excuses. I'll redraw the .eps files for Zeal Stab compatibility over the next 2 or so days. One suggestion is to wait for the original diffuser sets I ordered to come in before placing an even larger order for the Zeal-diffusers... just to make sure the acrylic works well with light diffusion, the thickness is right and there aren't any other flaws with production. Should only make the wait a few days longer and worth it IMO. I will have the new drawings ready to go way before the first "stock batch" comes in... When we're ready we can expedite the second order.
As far as the electrical shorts caused by the screws... Is this only happening in a few select locations on the PCB? Just looking at it I think I can see what's happening but just curious on other's experiences. Is there pin-pointed trouble areas? I was thinking that a painted-on electrical insulation might be ideal here.
So for the shorts, I was planning on using teflon tape for them but I look forward to the updated diffusers!
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 14 March 2017, 15:01:42
Post by: rainb1ood on Tue, 14 March 2017, 15:49:36
Post by: dubious on Tue, 14 March 2017, 16:04:15
Received and built my Eagle V2 yesterday. Packaging was on point and glad to say that everything arrived safely.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
hot damn
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 16:44:51
aaron6301 that looks so sexy
hot damn
Thanks! My new pride and joy
Post by: elton5354 on Tue, 14 March 2017, 18:29:00
Ok wow, so more people need Zeal compatibility than I realized. I'll stop being lazy now. I have the board, the stabs, calipers and a brain -- no excuses. I'll redraw the .eps files for Zeal Stab compatibility over the next 2 or so days. One suggestion is to wait for the original diffuser sets I ordered to come in before placing an even larger order for the Zeal-diffusers... just to make sure the acrylic works well with light diffusion, the thickness is right and there aren't any other flaws with production. Should only make the wait a few days longer and worth it IMO. I will have the new drawings ready to go way before the first "stock batch" comes in... When we're ready we can expedite the second order.
As far as the electrical shorts caused by the screws... Is this only happening in a few select locations on the PCB? Just looking at it I think I can see what's happening but just curious on other's experiences. Is there pin-pointed trouble areas? I was thinking that a painted-on electrical insulation might be ideal here.Are you going to make one for me too :) ? Considering you know ;) ...
Would be great if you could make one with the Zeal stab compatibility.
Considering... you're king of group buy organization and a super nice guy? YES. I'll PM you when I get the final product and send as many as you need. :thumb:Thanks for doing this onmybikedrunk. Very solid.
1) Happy to give one up for Elton if needed... also sounds like there's a lot more demand, especially if we can lick the Zeal stab issue between the lot of us. Mini-gb?
2) I'll get mine tomorrow and can take some measurements if needed. Not sure I 100% understand where the clearance on the Zeal stabs is problematic on the front spacer. I also found some very flat-headed screws today at work- hoping there might be an easy hardware swap fix since the Zeal stabs do have those lovely gold screws, but they have a significant head. If that perhaps fixes it, I'll send everyone who needs them screws.
SWEET! Teamwork. Let me know what you find out. And no, thank YOU! I have no idea what's causing the issue either, but I suppose we're about to find out!Received and built my Eagle V2 yesterday. Packaging was on point and glad to say that everything arrived safely.Wow. That looks great. You know, it's been a long time since I added LED backlighting to a board that I've built. This has inspired me. Looks fantastic...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBEnlc0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B4Vi74Z.jpg)
Thanks buddy. You are that guy ;). Hahaha.
@Steve, thanks man!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 14 March 2017, 19:15:38
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 14 March 2017, 19:21:15
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 14 March 2017, 19:37:39
Like my Viper V1 I had to end up mapping the numpad keys for arrows and leaving numlock on
Post by: Weiss on Wed, 15 March 2017, 12:49:29
From my experience programming the board last night it seems that the OTD software still has issues with mapping arrow keys to the board
Like my Viper V1 I had to end up mapping the numpad keys for arrows and leaving numlock on
I believe the way I mapped arrow keys was running the OTD software with Korean App Locale and then it worked out perfect.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Wed, 15 March 2017, 13:46:14
I'm looking for the dimensions for the mounting of the plate at the very least.
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 15 March 2017, 15:32:34
Thanks man I'll give it a shotFrom my experience programming the board last night it seems that the OTD software still has issues with mapping arrow keys to the board
Like my Viper V1 I had to end up mapping the numpad keys for arrows and leaving numlock on
I believe the way I mapped arrow keys was running the OTD software with Korean App Locale and then it worked out perfect.
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Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:18:11
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:22:43
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:25:18
For all those waiting I should have diffuser dimensions for Zeal Compatibility done late tonight. Once I double check everything I'll send them off to be cut probably tomorrow. If I get them expedited it will raise the cost from $5 to between $7-$10 -- is that ok with everybody?
Sounds good man. Should someone need the diffusers more than I wanting an extra set, please feel free to give them my slot.
Thanks!
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:37:01
For all those waiting I should have diffuser dimensions for Zeal Compatibility done late tonight. Once I double check everything I'll send them off to be cut probably tomorrow. If I get them expedited it will raise the cost from $5 to between $7-$10 -- is that ok with everybody?
Ok with me. Thanks again for arranging this onmybikedrunk!
As a general update- I'm still working on the flatter screw idea but have thus far crapped out. The flat headed M2 I found is just a slight bit longer than the ones Zeal provides, so no relief there- the screw hits the end of the threaded metal bit on the stab housing and the net is that they protrude even more than the goldies. I do think a flatter head would help, but none of the screws I've been able to find around home or work are making the difference we're looking for. I'll keep looking and update if I find a winner.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:05:49
For all those waiting I should have diffuser dimensions for Zeal Compatibility done late tonight. Once I double check everything I'll send them off to be cut probably tomorrow. If I get them expedited it will raise the cost from $5 to between $7-$10 -- is that ok with everybody?
That is fine with me.
Can anyone send me a photo of the Eagle/Viper plate?
Did you get the photo already? If not I can get you one tomorrow.
Post by: inosint on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:47:33
For all those waiting I should have diffuser dimensions for Zeal Compatibility done late tonight. Once I double check everything I'll send them off to be cut probably tomorrow. If I get them expedited it will raise the cost from $5 to between $7-$10 -- is that ok with everybody?Yup, still very reasonable imo. I'm in.
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 15 March 2017, 22:58:01
For all those waiting I should have diffuser dimensions for Zeal Compatibility done late tonight. Once I double check everything I'll send them off to be cut probably tomorrow. If I get them expedited it will raise the cost from $5 to between $7-$10 -- is that ok with everybody?Im cool with that!
Post by: byker on Wed, 15 March 2017, 23:36:43
For all those waiting I should have diffuser dimensions for Zeal Compatibility done late tonight. Once I double check everything I'll send them off to be cut probably tomorrow. If I get them expedited it will raise the cost from $5 to between $7-$10 -- is that ok with everybody?
I am also interested in a new diffuser as mine is broken, although I don't need zeal stab compatibility necessarily, any will do fine. :)
Post by: sonic2911 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 08:14:30
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 16 March 2017, 12:30:44
what kind of LEDs can I use for this board?In switch two pin single color LEDs. 3mm flangeless, square 2x3x4, or 1.8mm
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Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 12:47:18
what kind of LEDs can I use for this board?In switch two pin single color LEDs. 3mm flangeless, square 2x3x4, or 1.8mm
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Also to note, if you use 2x3x4mm leds, you will likely have some rubbing when using GMK sets. You can lightly sand the led's at a angle to prevent rubbing.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:58:52
Glamour shot: http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU (http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU)
Post by: poolside on Thu, 16 March 2017, 17:28:49
If anyone wants to trade their black eagle kit for my VE.A w/tenting stands, lmk :thumb:
Glamour shot: http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU (http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU)
Tasty picture! :thumb:
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:43:19
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 16 March 2017, 19:09:32
Does anyone have the files for the plate? Trying to get a case made for my second PCB, and measurements for the mounting on the plate would really help. Probably 3D printing a case or getting acrylic cut. CNC is probably too expensive.
I don't think the files have been released from duck. You may need to measure them yourself.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 17 March 2017, 00:55:33
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 17 March 2017, 02:25:45
Post by: byker on Fri, 17 March 2017, 02:29:31
So can anyone kinda give me the thought behind the acrylic plate? I ordered one with my extra PCB just out of curiosity being that I haven't seen Duck offer them before... I've seen a few posts (probably KBDLab?) where I've seen folks use acrylic plates with linears but this negates the belief of hard metal (steel) is better than soft (aluminum) when it comes to plates and linear switches... Anybody?
I will let you know once I build it, probably in a few weeks though.
Post by: LDobler on Fri, 17 March 2017, 02:46:06
Post by: thanhnv244 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 03:12:48
If anyone wants to trade their black eagle kit for my VE.A w/tenting stands, lmk :thumb:
Glamour shot: http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU (http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU)
Really ? :eek:
Too bad I've sold my spot already :thumb:
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 09:30:08
If anyone wants to trade their black eagle kit for my VE.A w/tenting stands, lmk :thumb:
Glamour shot: http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU (http://imgur.com/WM6aMbU)
Really ? :eek:
Too bad I've sold my spot already :thumb:
Unfortunately split boards just aren't my thing and would like to trade it for something that might actually get some use ;)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 17 March 2017, 14:30:54
So can anyone kinda give me the thought behind the acrylic plate? I ordered one with my extra PCB just out of curiosity being that I haven't seen Duck offer them before... I've seen a few posts (probably KBDLab?) where I've seen folks use acrylic plates with linears but this negates the belief of hard metal (steel) is better than soft (aluminum) when it comes to plates and linear switches... Anybody?
i think they are also novel for light refraction within the case. i've seen some pics where in-switch leds were not used because the acrylic plate created enough light under the keys
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:07:54
So can anyone kinda give me the thought behind the acrylic plate? I ordered one with my extra PCB just out of curiosity being that I haven't seen Duck offer them before... I've seen a few posts (probably KBDLab?) where I've seen folks use acrylic plates with linears but this negates the belief of hard metal (steel) is better than soft (aluminum) when it comes to plates and linear switches... Anybody?
I have polycarb plate and linear switches for my KMAC2 and I have to say it's the worst typing experience I ever have from Korean custom. But that could very well just be me.
Post by: HappyCatFish on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:14:43
So can anyone kinda give me the thought behind the acrylic plate? I ordered one with my extra PCB just out of curiosity being that I haven't seen Duck offer them before... I've seen a few posts (probably KBDLab?) where I've seen folks use acrylic plates with linears but this negates the belief of hard metal (steel) is better than soft (aluminum) when it comes to plates and linear switches... Anybody?
I have polycarb plate and linear switches for my KMAC2 and I have to say it's the worst typing experience I ever have from Korean custom. But that could very well just be me.
It is my opinion that linear switches are best on very rigid plates like SS and that tactile switches shine on polycarb or plastic plates which are more 'springy'. It's similar to the idea behind partial plates, which offer a traditional PCB mounted experience. At the end of the day it's all very subjective and entirely down to personal preference.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:28:13
Next issue is how they're produced. Attached is a sample drawing with the options I had in mind. My idea would be to produce two separate versions -- 1 for 6.5u spacebars and one for 7u spacebars. The reason for this is because the two stab mounting holes to the far right hand side (when looking at the back of the PCB) are very close together. If we did a one-size fits all then it MIGHT not refract the light as well from that LED located above the two holes. This might not be an issue, but I'm not sure. Duck definitely designed these so the acrylic sits right against the LEDs which is why I'm cautious. So everyone who wants one of these take a look at the drawings and see what the best course of action would be... A one-size-fits-all or two separate versions for different spacebar lengths?
(http://i.imgur.com/SJZ2y3w.jpg)
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:38:33
So ok... I have the drawings done. I do have a small problem... I didn't realize (a stupid oversight on my part) that the acrylic pieces were different thicknesses. The bottom is 2mm while the top/sides are 3mm. Ponoko's smallest thickness offered is 3mm. I cancelled the "stock" diffuser order with them and emailed them about custom materials. They unfortunately only offer what's listed on their site. If anyone has any suggestions for a one-stop shop online, I would be forever grateful. I will also investigate a local place I found here in Portland, OR. FYI - we need 2mm thickness of "Opal" or translucent Acrylic sheeting with light transmission values.IMO the LED being so close should be plenty bright. Also 2 in 1 would be more economical in case someone bought the 6.25u but changed his mind later before building then the 6.25u would become useless.
Next issue is how they're produced. Attached is a sample drawing with the options I had in mind. My idea would be to produce two separate versions -- 1 for 6.5u spacebars and one for 7u spacebars. The reason for this is because the two stab mounting holes to the far right hand side (when looking at the back of the PCB) are very close together. If we did a one-size fits all then it MIGHT not refract the light as well from that LED located above the two holes. This might not be an issue, but I'm not sure. Duck definitely designed these so the acrylic sits right against the LEDs which is why I'm cautious. So everyone who wants one of these take a look at the drawings and see what the best course of action would be... A one-size-fits-all or two separate versions for different spacebar lengths?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SJZ2y3w.jpg)
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Post by: oatmicro on Fri, 17 March 2017, 15:46:19
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:01:05
IMO the LED being so close should be plenty bright. Also 2 in 1 would be more economical in case someone bought the 6.25u but changed his mind later before building then the 6.25u would become useless.Yeah you're probably right, just erring on the side of caution. I would much rather only produce one version for obvious reasons...
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Post by: finalarcadia on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:59:10
Edit: a metal option would be awesome as well if you can get that done in a local shop.
Post by: sairex on Fri, 17 March 2017, 17:09:05
Post by: HappyCatFish on Fri, 17 March 2017, 17:36:47
Thank you so much for doing this.
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 21:55:25
Post by: trexous on Fri, 17 March 2017, 22:01:01
Alright, because I've received numerous complaints via PM, I'm implementing a spot transfer fee of $50 USD. It's not fair to others when one's intention is to just sell their spot for profit.
whats the point if the seller is (most likely) going to make the buyer pay for the spot transfer fee anyways? which in turn makes the spot even more expensive for the buyer.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 17 March 2017, 23:01:01
beardedboydesign.com (https://www.beardedboydesign.com/)
EDIT//
Hopefully the standard Opal Acrylic will be cheaper via beardedboydesign than Ponoko because Ponoko's shipping rates + "maker rates" are astronomical. Again, it wouldn't hurt to have a backup source online if anyone knows of anywhere they have good experience with. So yeah, should know more Monday.
Final:
(http://i.imgur.com/aODaY4P.jpg)
Post by: gaiden on Sat, 18 March 2017, 00:21:09
So I have a local guy working on the laser cutting for the diffuser. Consensus seems to be a universal size, which I totally agree with at this point...
beardedboydesign.com (https://www.beardedboydesign.com/)
EDIT//I will start a spreadsheet and link it here of everyone that has PM'd me or left a message in the thread and add to it as we go along.smittysteve has agreed to help and he'll be managing the spreadsheet/Google Forms. I'm sure he'll post a link soon. We're also discussing other materials for fun... Think metal/onyx acrylic/hardwood ply etc...//
Hopefully the standard Opal Acrylic will be cheaper via beardedboydesign than Ponoko because Ponoko's shipping rates + "maker rates" are astronomical. Again, it wouldn't hurt to have a backup source online if anyone knows of anywhere they have good experience with. So yeah, should know more Monday.
Final:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aODaY4P.jpg)
looks great! so this shop can make both 2mm and 3mm thick cuts? also what is the price range? also maybe brass & SS should be among the choices. :thumb:
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sat, 18 March 2017, 00:36:29
For other materials, like black-out diffusers, Ponoko has both thicknesses so it should be relatively easy and very fast to get secondary options made in full sets (2 top/sides and 1 front). Unfortunately, the only light-transmitting "opal" acrylic matching what comes with the Viper/Eagle offered by Ponoko started at 3mm (just bad luck I guess).
All that being said, the guy I'm dealing with now just orders the plastics thru a well known national distributor (from what I picked up he uses TAP Plastics) so he can cut any thickness as long as it's offered.
I will have a quote Monday.
EDIT: Metals are a whole different ball-game after doing some very quick research. I am more than happy to pass off the files or mod the front diffuser so it doesn't cause shorts but metal isn't a road I'm personally really wanting to go down... Smittysteve sounded like he may be willing to take this on though!
Post by: LDobler on Sat, 18 March 2017, 02:34:31
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Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 18 March 2017, 15:11:03
So, I've offered to help onmybikedrunk with a few bits of the replacement/ alternate front diffuser bits. As you can tell, dude is a rock star and doesn't need help. But also, we are both dads of 2 (onmybike) and 3 (me) kids, so between the two of us, we'll get these bad boys ordered. Not trying to make this a big GB or anything, just trying to centralize orders and get the cost for everyone as low as possible. And we're just trying to help out here- will post all costs and there's no cut in it for us... only want to help everyone make these awesome boards even awesome-r. :thumb:
As onmybike said, we want to keep it pretty simple, so here's the plan:
-We are only going to deal with new front diffusers right now. The goal is to make something as close as possible to what came with the board- 2mm thick frosted "Opal Acrylic." We've included a question about whether you want to have others made for the side/ rear 3mm diffusers. If there is a lot of interest on that, perhaps we will give it a go.
-I agree with onmybikedrunk- not sure I want to mess with anything metal right now either. I'm going to investigate the clearance to the PCB and since you're not trying to get the acrylic as near as possible to the PCB for LEDs, maybe a thin metal insert would work? I still vote we stick with acrylics for now. With the nylon washers likely needed for the Zeal stabs and all that, I'd rather not have another potential way to short out my board. We've left it in there for an option on the form- it you really want metal, check that too and we can see if it's feasible. However, as we started chatting about it, we of course started thinking about other materials... I went all silver on the Viper, so a black onyx acrylic might look tasty. We don't want this to become a big thing or have to many variables (aka opportunities for it to go sideways), but we've added a few questions about interest in other materials. We'll see what y'all have to say and go from there.
Think that's it. Pretty simple... form is here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link)
We've asked for contact email if different from Paypal. We don't want to spam this forum, so once this link is up, we'll move all communication over to a group email to talk more about options and such with those who are interested. Elton, thanks for letting us post this here, you freaking rock. :-* (And while onmybikedrunk and I will gladly be paying for our own, I'd suggest everyone rounds up payment to the nearest dollar and we cover whatever Elton wants for always doing such a great job with the Duck buys...)
Let me or onmybikedrunk know if you have any questions/ comments/ suggestions. Have a great weekend!!
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 18 March 2017, 15:33:35
Post by: inosint on Sat, 18 March 2017, 15:41:00
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 18 March 2017, 17:25:21
Hello All-Hi what kind of acrylic does the original duck eagle have? Because i dont know what to choose between clear and frosted, can you help me out
So, I've offered to help onmybikedrunk with a few bits of the replacement/ alternate front diffuser bits. As you can tell, dude is a rock star and doesn't need help. But also, we are both dads of 2 (onmybike) and 3 (me) kids, so between the two of us, we'll get these bad boys ordered. Not trying to make this a big GB or anything, just trying to centralize orders and get the cost for everyone as low as possible. And we're just trying to help out here- will post all costs and there's no cut in it for us... only want to help everyone make these awesome boards even awesome-r. :thumb:
As onmybike said, we want to keep it pretty simple, so here's the plan:
-We are only going to deal with new front diffusers right now. The goal is to make something as close as possible to what came with the board- 2mm thick frosted "Opal Acrylic." We've included a question about whether you want to have others made for the side/ rear 3mm diffusers. If there is a lot of interest on that, perhaps we will give it a go.
-I agree with onmybikedrunk- not sure I want to mess with anything metal right now either. I'm going to investigate the clearance to the PCB and since you're not trying to get the acrylic as near as possible to the PCB for LEDs, maybe a thin metal insert would work? I still vote we stick with acrylics for now. With the nylon washers likely needed for the Zeal stabs and all that, I'd rather not have another potential way to short out my board. We've left it in there for an option on the form- it you really want metal, check that too and we can see if it's feasible. However, as we started chatting about it, we of course started thinking about other materials... I went all silver on the Viper, so a black onyx acrylic might look tasty. We don't want this to become a big thing or have to many variables (aka opportunities for it to go sideways), but we've added a few questions about interest in other materials. We'll see what y'all have to say and go from there.
Think that's it. Pretty simple... form is here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link)
We've asked for contact email if different from Paypal. We don't want to spam this forum, so once this link is up, we'll move all communication over to a group email to talk more about options and such with those who are interested. Elton, thanks for letting us post this here, you freaking rock. :-* (And while onmybikedrunk and I will gladly be paying for our own, I'd suggest everyone rounds up payment to the nearest dollar and we cover whatever Elton wants for always doing such a great job with the Duck buys...)
Let me or onmybikedrunk know if you have any questions/ comments/ suggestions. Have a great weekend!!
Thanks
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 18 March 2017, 18:37:32
Hello All-Hi what kind of acrylic does the original duck eagle have? Because i dont know what to choose between clear and frosted, can you help me out
So, I've offered to help onmybikedrunk with a few bits of the replacement/ alternate front diffuser bits. As you can tell, dude is a rock star and doesn't need help. But also, we are both dads of 2 (onmybike) and 3 (me) kids, so between the two of us, we'll get these bad boys ordered. Not trying to make this a big GB or anything, just trying to centralize orders and get the cost for everyone as low as possible. And we're just trying to help out here- will post all costs and there's no cut in it for us... only want to help everyone make these awesome boards even awesome-r. :thumb:
As onmybike said, we want to keep it pretty simple, so here's the plan:
-We are only going to deal with new front diffusers right now. The goal is to make something as close as possible to what came with the board- 2mm thick frosted "Opal Acrylic." We've included a question about whether you want to have others made for the side/ rear 3mm diffusers. If there is a lot of interest on that, perhaps we will give it a go.
-I agree with onmybikedrunk- not sure I want to mess with anything metal right now either. I'm going to investigate the clearance to the PCB and since you're not trying to get the acrylic as near as possible to the PCB for LEDs, maybe a thin metal insert would work? I still vote we stick with acrylics for now. With the nylon washers likely needed for the Zeal stabs and all that, I'd rather not have another potential way to short out my board. We've left it in there for an option on the form- it you really want metal, check that too and we can see if it's feasible. However, as we started chatting about it, we of course started thinking about other materials... I went all silver on the Viper, so a black onyx acrylic might look tasty. We don't want this to become a big thing or have to many variables (aka opportunities for it to go sideways), but we've added a few questions about interest in other materials. We'll see what y'all have to say and go from there.
Think that's it. Pretty simple... form is here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link)
We've asked for contact email if different from Paypal. We don't want to spam this forum, so once this link is up, we'll move all communication over to a group email to talk more about options and such with those who are interested. Elton, thanks for letting us post this here, you freaking rock. :-* (And while onmybikedrunk and I will gladly be paying for our own, I'd suggest everyone rounds up payment to the nearest dollar and we cover whatever Elton wants for always doing such a great job with the Duck buys...)
Let me or onmybikedrunk know if you have any questions/ comments/ suggestions. Have a great weekend!!
Thanks
Sure- original is frosted and throws diffused LED lighting. With clear, you can see the punctuate light from each LED. Duck send with the frosted, but some people may prefer the clear, perhaps? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 20 March 2017, 01:32:45
So a little backstory about the switches: For those of you who don't know, they are Japanese Hirose Cherry MX Orange Switches produced by Hirose under permission from Cherry in the ate eighties... They are pretty rare (I actually had a harder time finding them than I did finding Nixdorf's or "Nixies"). The are one of the smoothest switches I have ever used -- smoother than the Nixies (that I own at least). The thing that makes them special are three things: Hirose was the only company Cherry licensed to produce their switches, stamped with the Cherry name on them, at that time - there is no mention of Hirose anywhere on the switch. Second, the stems are modified from the standard Cherry MX stem as seen here (credit MouseFan (http://mousefan.telcontar.net/)).
(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg/249px-Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg)
And finally the stems are a different plastic than stock Cherry MX switches. The modded stem makes them super smooth - like a lubed switch without lube. The body of the switch is nearly identical to vintage blacks and the springs register somewhere around 68-72g (I have sh*%^y equipment for this measurement so don't quote me on that). They have only been found on two boards: the Yamaha QX3 sequencer and NCR's F020 - which is actually a cool looking board. They Yamaha has been known to have an identical switch with a white/clear stem - also linear. I nerd out on rare switches and thought some of you might enjoy this build... Here yah go!
(http://i.imgur.com/GbsN88v.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ce8FPzf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/UzuXpqv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JDqwOr1.jpg)
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 02:59:14
Just thought I'd take a break from boring diffusers to share something I think is special... I built this on a whim and IMO it turned out awesome...
So a little backstory about the switches: For those of you who don't know, they are Japanese Hirose Cherry MX Orange Switches produced by Hirose under permission from Cherry in the ate eighties... They are pretty rare (I actually had a harder time finding them than I did finding Nixdorf's or "Nixies"). The are one of the smoothest switches I have ever used -- smoother than the Nixies (that I own at least). The thing that makes them special are three things: Hirose was the only company Cherry licensed to produce their switches, stamped with the Cherry name on them, at that time - there is no mention of Hirose anywhere on the switch. Second, the stems are modified from the standard Cherry MX stem as seen here (credit MouseFan (http://mousefan.telcontar.net/)).Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg/249px-Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg)
And finally the stems are a different plastic than stock Cherry MX switches. The modded stem makes them super smooth - like a lubed switch without lube. The body of the switch is nearly identical to vintage blacks and the springs register somewhere around 68-72g (I have sh*%^y equipment for this measurement so don't quote me on that). They have only been found on two boards: the Yamaha QX3 sequencer and NCR's F020 - which is actually a cool looking board. They Yamaha has been known to have an identical switch with a white/clear stem - also linear. I nerd out on rare switches and thought some of you might enjoy this build... Here yah go!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GbsN88v.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ce8FPzf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzuXpqv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JDqwOr1.jpg)
Beautiful build! I'd love to see and hear a typing video for this :]
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 20 March 2017, 03:02:36
Beautiful build! I'd love to see and hear a typing video for this :]If only I had a decent mic (or camera for that matter).
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 20 March 2017, 03:56:00
Just thought I'd take a break from boring diffusers to share something I think is special... I built this on a whim and IMO it turned out awesome...That looks incredibly nice. I've never had the chance to test the Nixie switch before, as they are very rare apparently :( ;D
So a little backstory about the switches: For those of you who don't know, they are Japanese Hirose Cherry MX Orange Switches produced by Hirose under permission from Cherry in the ate eighties... They are pretty rare (I actually had a harder time finding them than I did finding Nixdorf's or "Nixies"). The are one of the smoothest switches I have ever used -- smoother than the Nixies (that I own at least). The thing that makes them special are three things: Hirose was the only company Cherry licensed to produce their switches, stamped with the Cherry name on them, at that time - there is no mention of Hirose anywhere on the switch. Second, the stems are modified from the standard Cherry MX stem as seen here (credit MouseFan (http://mousefan.telcontar.net/)).Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg/249px-Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg)
And finally the stems are a different plastic than stock Cherry MX switches. The modded stem makes them super smooth - like a lubed switch without lube. The body of the switch is nearly identical to vintage blacks and the springs register somewhere around 68-72g (I have sh*%^y equipment for this measurement so don't quote me on that). They have only been found on two boards: the Yamaha QX3 sequencer and NCR's F020 - which is actually a cool looking board. They Yamaha has been known to have an identical switch with a white/clear stem - also linear. I nerd out on rare switches and thought some of you might enjoy this build... Here yah go!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GbsN88v.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ce8FPzf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzuXpqv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JDqwOr1.jpg)
Couldn't you just borrow a camera to record a typing video? I'm really curious how they sound.
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:01:50
Just thought I'd take a break from boring diffusers to share something I think is special... I built this on a whim and IMO it turned out awesome...Are you be able to use zeal stab with the original acrylic?
So a little backstory about the switches: For those of you who don't know, they are Japanese Hirose Cherry MX Orange Switches produced by Hirose under permission from Cherry in the ate eighties... They are pretty rare (I actually had a harder time finding them than I did finding Nixdorf's or "Nixies"). The are one of the smoothest switches I have ever used -- smoother than the Nixies (that I own at least). The thing that makes them special are three things: Hirose was the only company Cherry licensed to produce their switches, stamped with the Cherry name on them, at that time - there is no mention of Hirose anywhere on the switch. Second, the stems are modified from the standard Cherry MX stem as seen here (credit MouseFan (http://mousefan.telcontar.net/)).Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg/249px-Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg)
And finally the stems are a different plastic than stock Cherry MX switches. The modded stem makes them super smooth - like a lubed switch without lube. The body of the switch is nearly identical to vintage blacks and the springs register somewhere around 68-72g (I have sh*%^y equipment for this measurement so don't quote me on that). They have only been found on two boards: the Yamaha QX3 sequencer and NCR's F020 - which is actually a cool looking board. They Yamaha has been known to have an identical switch with a white/clear stem - also linear. I nerd out on rare switches and thought some of you might enjoy this build... Here yah go!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GbsN88v.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ce8FPzf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzuXpqv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JDqwOr1.jpg)
Post by: gnmar2723 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 15:35:42
Just thought I'd take a break from boring diffusers to share something I think is special... I built this on a whim and IMO it turned out awesome...
So a little backstory about the switches: For those of you who don't know, they are Japanese Hirose Cherry MX Orange Switches produced by Hirose under permission from Cherry in the ate eighties... They are pretty rare (I actually had a harder time finding them than I did finding Nixdorf's or "Nixies"). The are one of the smoothest switches I have ever used -- smoother than the Nixies (that I own at least). The thing that makes them special are three things: Hirose was the only company Cherry licensed to produce their switches, stamped with the Cherry name on them, at that time - there is no mention of Hirose anywhere on the switch. Second, the stems are modified from the standard Cherry MX stem as seen here (credit MouseFan (http://mousefan.telcontar.net/)).Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg/249px-Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg)
And finally the stems are a different plastic than stock Cherry MX switches. The modded stem makes them super smooth - like a lubed switch without lube. The body of the switch is nearly identical to vintage blacks and the springs register somewhere around 68-72g (I have sh*%^y equipment for this measurement so don't quote me on that). They have only been found on two boards: the Yamaha QX3 sequencer and NCR's F020 - which is actually a cool looking board. They Yamaha has been known to have an identical switch with a white/clear stem - also linear. I nerd out on rare switches and thought some of you might enjoy this build... Here yah go!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GbsN88v.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ce8FPzf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzuXpqv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JDqwOr1.jpg)
And I thought that liking linears would save me money since I wouldn't have to buy zealios... There is no turning back now lol.
Post by: anthorix on Mon, 20 March 2017, 17:48:53
Just thought I'd take a break from boring diffusers to share something I think is special... I built this on a whim and IMO it turned out awesome...
So a little backstory about the switches: For those of you who don't know, they are Japanese Hirose Cherry MX Orange Switches produced by Hirose under permission from Cherry in the ate eighties... They are pretty rare (I actually had a harder time finding them than I did finding Nixdorf's or "Nixies"). The are one of the smoothest switches I have ever used -- smoother than the Nixies (that I own at least). The thing that makes them special are three things: Hirose was the only company Cherry licensed to produce their switches, stamped with the Cherry name on them, at that time - there is no mention of Hirose anywhere on the switch. Second, the stems are modified from the standard Cherry MX stem as seen here (credit MouseFan (http://mousefan.telcontar.net/)).Show Image(https://deskthority.net/w/images/thumb/e/ee/Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg/249px-Hirose_Cherry_MX_Orange_--_comparison_with_MX_Black_1.jpg)
And finally the stems are a different plastic than stock Cherry MX switches. The modded stem makes them super smooth - like a lubed switch without lube. The body of the switch is nearly identical to vintage blacks and the springs register somewhere around 68-72g (I have sh*%^y equipment for this measurement so don't quote me on that). They have only been found on two boards: the Yamaha QX3 sequencer and NCR's F020 - which is actually a cool looking board. They Yamaha has been known to have an identical switch with a white/clear stem - also linear. I nerd out on rare switches and thought some of you might enjoy this build... Here yah go!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GbsN88v.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ce8FPzf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzuXpqv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JDqwOr1.jpg)
Fantastic keeb! Bought 2 Yamaha QX3s for my own Viper V2 and wrote a little about em on reddit. http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 20 March 2017, 22:49:54
Fantastic keeb! Bought 2 Yamaha QX3s for my own Viper V2 and wrote a little about em on reddit. http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4 (http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4)
Oh this is awesome! I never knew about that little notch in the stem there... Also for some reason never thought of the nickel thing either. Did Ripster pressure you to use nickels? LOL. "You know, for keyboard science!" or whatever he says...haha love that guy. Anyway, glad you got a decent measurement. Did you get your QX3's from Japan or some other outlet? I have new old stock (yeah that's right, NEVER USED) Nixies for the Viper **insert evil laughter here** . The nostalgic vintage dudes are gonna be crying as I cannibalize this board... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86367.msg2320021#msg2320021) :o
Are you be able to use zeal stab with the original acrylic?
No these are just regular clear snap in stabs. I will be using Zeal for the Viper tho.
Speaking of which: Looks like the local dude from beardyboydesign.com is coming through. I have to source the plastic myself (better that way), but he's offered to do each diffuser cut for $2.50. This of course doesn't include materials so it seems we might hit a $5 price point for a replacement front diffuser with Zeal-compatibility. Yeah!
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 20 March 2017, 23:25:33
Thanks for your hard work dude, def getting some extra diffuserFantastic keeb! Bought 2 Yamaha QX3s for my own Viper V2 and wrote a little about em on reddit. http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4 (http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4)
Oh this is awesome! I never knew about that little notch in the stem there... Also for some reason never thought of the nickel thing either. Did Ripster pressure you to use nickels? LOL. "You know, for keyboard science!" or whatever he says...haha love that guy. Anyway, glad you got a decent measurement. Did you get your QX3's from Japan or some other outlet? I have new old stock (yeah that's right, NEVER USED) Nixies for the Viper **insert evil laughter here** . The nostalgic vintage dudes are gonna be crying as I cannibalize this board... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86367.msg2320021#msg2320021) :oAre you be able to use zeal stab with the original acrylic?
No these are just regular clear snap in stabs. I will be using Zeal for the Viper tho.
Speaking of which: Looks like the local dude from beardyboydesign.com is coming through. I have to source the plastic myself (better that way), but he's offered to do each diffuser cut for $2.50. This of course doesn't include materials so it seems we might hit a $5 price point for a replacement front diffuser with Zeal-compatibility. Yeah!
Post by: anthorix on Tue, 21 March 2017, 01:20:25
Oh this is awesome! I never knew about that little notch in the stem there... Also for some reason never thought of the nickel thing either. Did Ripster pressure you to use nickels? LOL. "You know, for keyboard science!" or whatever he says...haha love that guy. Anyway, glad you got a decent measurement. Did you get your QX3's from Japan or some other outlet? I have new old stock (yeah that's right, NEVER USED) Nixies for the Viper **insert evil laughter here** . The nostalgic vintage dudes are gonna be crying as I cannibalize this board... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86367.msg2320021#msg2320021) :o
ya set an alarm for 6am in the morning just to bid on yamaha QX3s... About the nickels I wanted to know the specs exactly, because they felt strangely similar to my gateron yellows and heavier than my gateron reds. the yamahas had a keycap that says "LOAD" and in ripsters honor i had to do some science. apparently they actuate around 55g. :thumb: also nice time capsule nixies, def a rare switch, especially new-old stock.
Post by: LDobler on Tue, 21 March 2017, 10:50:53
Post by: cicada on Tue, 21 March 2017, 14:31:07
Fantastic keeb! Bought 2 Yamaha QX3s for my own Viper V2 and wrote a little about em on reddit. http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4 (http://imgur.com/a/SsMP4)
Oh this is awesome! I never knew about that little notch in the stem there... Also for some reason never thought of the nickel thing either. Did Ripster pressure you to use nickels? LOL. "You know, for keyboard science!" or whatever he says...haha love that guy. Anyway, glad you got a decent measurement. Did you get your QX3's from Japan or some other outlet? I have new old stock (yeah that's right, NEVER USED) Nixies for the Viper **insert evil laughter here** . The nostalgic vintage dudes are gonna be crying as I cannibalize this board... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86367.msg2320021#msg2320021) :o
Afaik Hirose switches have different keystem size than regular Cherry switches hence they lock onto the caps very tightly (maybe they used a different key mount?). Did you have any problem removing the keycaps?
Very nice build nonetheless.
Edit: from DT wiki
Quote
Hirose Cherry mount is a smaller cross than Cherry MX mount. Cherry MX keycaps will fit on Hirose Cherry switches, but Hirose Cherry keycaps will not fit on Cherry MX mount keycaps. The horizontal arms are shorter but approximately the same thickness, but the vertical arms of the cross are noticeably thinner, and keycaps made for this mount won't fit onto a Cherry MX mount keycap.
Post by: johnthedong on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:42:30
Got mine too!
Post by: zacheadams on Thu, 23 March 2017, 15:09:12
If anyone's looking to let go a viper v2 kit! :) Ping me.
Edit: hells yes
Post by: trexous on Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:02:58
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Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 24 March 2017, 14:43:05
If anyone's looking to let go a viper v2 kit! :) Ping me.And if anyone's looking to let go of an eagle v2 kit (or hell, even an eagle v1 kit if they still have it), I'd be super interested.
Edit: hells yes
Congrats! Still looking for a Viper V2 as well. :(
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 24 March 2017, 16:52:30
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 24 March 2017, 17:20:36
Quick question - should I get Zeal stabilizers or Cherry stabilizers for the Viper V2 build? I've seen discussion in the front mentioning that Zeal stabilizers might not work out of the box without custom diffusers. I'm planning to use Zeal switches for this (R5, 65g). First time building this so I'm nervous!
cherry stabilizers
Post by: theillumedpanda on Fri, 24 March 2017, 18:37:00
Post by: ArchDill on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:31:03
If anyone's looking to let go a viper v2 kit! :) Ping me.And if anyone's looking to let go of an eagle v2 kit (or hell, even an eagle v1 kit if they still have it), I'd be super interested.
Edit: hells yes
Jelly. Congrats, man!
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 11:02:04
Quick question - should I get Zeal stabilizers or Cherry stabilizers for the Viper V2 build? I've seen discussion in the front mentioning that Zeal stabilizers might not work out of the box without custom diffusers. I'm planning to use Zeal switches for this (R5, 65g). First time building this so I'm nervous!
cherry stabilizers
Thank you!
Also, what do you guys think about the case angle? I'm typing on a hhkb with the legs extended atm, so would that be approximately the same inclination as the viper? ;D
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sat, 25 March 2017, 14:46:42
So finding a good match for the acrylic is rather difficult here in the USA considering the required 2mm thickness. It seems that every major acrylic distributor I've contacted only carries a starting thickness of 3mm. There is a guy on eBay that sells stuff made in the UK by the name of Perspex but he sells it in paper sizes (A4, A5 etc). Just extra work to only cut a few per sheet and then of course wasted plastics (aka raised cost) in the end. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm still on it. If I can't find another option by the end of this weekend then I'm going to order the stuff from the UK and just deal with it.
Cheers
D
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 25 March 2017, 14:56:16
Diffuser Update:
So finding a good match for the acrylic is rather difficult here in the USA considering the required 2mm thickness. It seems that every major acrylic distributor I've contacted only carries a starting thickness of 3mm. There is a guy on eBay that sells stuff made in the UK by the name of Perspex but he sells it in paper sizes (A4, A5 etc). Just extra work to only cut a few per sheet and then of course wasted plastics (aka raised cost) in the end. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm still on it. If I can't find another option by the end of this weekend then I'm going to order the stuff from the UK and just deal with it.
Cheers
D
Thanks for the continued work :thumb: Still rocking my viper acrylic-less for now :(
Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:00:40
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Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:10:12
Just finished my Viper!Nice
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Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:54:52
Just finished my Viper!
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Looks great! Any ideas on what those LED's on the upper left corner do? I'm still waiting for mine but I can't wait to get building soon!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sat, 25 March 2017, 15:58:41
Looks great! Any ideas on what those LED's on the upper left corner do? I'm still waiting for mine but I can't wait to get building soon!The first 3 are Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock. The other 4 are Layers 1-4 or FN Layer selection.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 25 March 2017, 16:05:45
Looks great! Any ideas on what those LED's on the upper left corner do? I'm still waiting for mine but I can't wait to get building soon!The first 3 are Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock. The other 4 are Layers 1-4 or FN Layer selection.
Awesome - thanks for the clarification!
PS: also entered your diffuser buy btw ;)
Looking to build almost exactly this (http://duck0113.tistory.com/146) once I get my kit in, been drooling over the symmetry especially the right shift!
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sat, 25 March 2017, 17:48:53
Just finished my Viper!That looks sooo good! Which switches are you using? Do you by any chance know if switch (and LED) holtites fit?
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Edit: I'd still be down for a Viper :)
Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 25 March 2017, 21:58:31
Post by: trexous on Sun, 26 March 2017, 02:27:13
Thanks guys! I'm using ergo-clears with zealencio silencing clips...still getting used to the HHKB layout.Why dont you just use zealios instead of ergos? What is the main difference? Just curious so I know what to use for my build
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Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 26 March 2017, 09:06:42
Thanks guys! I'm using ergo-clears with zealencio silencing clips...still getting used to the HHKB layout.Why dont you just use zealios instead of ergos? What is the main difference? Just curious so I know what to use for my build
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I'm personally using zealios 65 with zealencio clips :D. Just have to wait till my stuff comes!
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 26 March 2017, 09:58:03
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 26 March 2017, 10:03:32
Just wondering, but is it possible to use the other PCB's with the case? Looking at GoN Nerd 60 atm as it has bluetooth support hahaWon't work due to the port location.
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 26 March 2017, 10:12:16
Just wondering, but is it possible to use the other PCB's with the case? Looking at GoN Nerd 60 atm as it has bluetooth support haha
BT may have reduced range and unreliable signal due to the aluminum case.
Also you could theoretically solder a usb breakout to the pins on the PCB, attach it to a slim BT card and hide it in the weight cutout. It shouldn't be impossible to find parts that fit, just make sure to measure out the space and place something between the breakout and pcb to prevent shorts. I would recommend looking into this over a different PCB (which as previously stated wont work anyway)
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 26 March 2017, 10:40:16
Just wondering, but is it possible to use the other PCB's with the case? Looking at GoN Nerd 60 atm as it has bluetooth support haha
BT may have reduced range and unreliable signal due to the aluminum case.
Also you could theoretically solder a usb breakout to the pins on the PCB, attach it to a slim BT card and hide it in the weight cutout. It shouldn't be impossible to find parts that fit, just make sure to measure out the space and place something between the breakout and pcb to prevent shorts. I would recommend looking into this over a different PCB (which as previously stated wont work anyway)
I see, thanks guys! Totally forgot that the port location is back to the center again (probably due to the diffusers this time?). Hmm... time to break out the bluetooth kits again i guess. You're right that the bluetooth might be affected by the case though unfortunately.
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 26 March 2017, 15:51:21
Post by: Shados on Sun, 26 March 2017, 17:28:11
Thanks guys! I'm using ergo-clears with zealencio silencing clips...still getting used to the HHKB layout.Why dont you just use zealios instead of ergos? What is the main difference? Just curious so I know what to use for my build
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Main difference in my experience is that Cherry Clears have a somewhat sharper/more defined tactile bump than Zealios. Zealios are somewhere between a Cherry Clear and a Brown in that regard, although more towards the Clear.
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:04:35
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:31:48
Anyone else planning to use/using holtites with the viper/eagle? :)I'm really curious if that works, according to that Google Spreadsheet it should work.
Will there be a R3 or was that it?
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:46:18
Anyone else planning to use/using holtites with the viper/eagle? :)I'm really curious if that works, according to that Google Spreadsheet it should work.
Will there be a R3 or was that it?
Getting in holtites - I'll see if they work. Pretty sure there won't be a R3 for quite awhile (1-2 years?) as the last viper/eagle drop was from 2014-5. Duck is pretty backed up on gb's right now too.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:47:50
I'll be lurking around /r/mm and on GH as well.
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:17:08
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:23:37
I have the board on hand, just waiting for holtites and stuff to arrive :). Having the ability to change switches on the fly plus no soldering is a massive plus.These are my words! I'm currently building a keyboard myself but I'm short of 6 holtites. I'll have some more by Wednesday though.
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:40:19
I have the board on hand, just waiting for holtites and stuff to arrive :). Having the ability to change switches on the fly plus no soldering is a massive plus.These are my words! I'm currently building a keyboard myself but I'm short of 6 holtites. I'll have some more by Wednesday though.
Sounds great! Another duck board? How's the holtites working?
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:53:47
Post by: Potage on Tue, 28 March 2017, 05:29:41
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 28 March 2017, 21:35:44
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 28 March 2017, 21:42:15
PS: what's the bottom part made of? It feels super heavy compared to the top part.
My first guess would be salt.. from those who missed the GB. My 2nd guess would be a much thicker block of aluminum.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 28 March 2017, 21:42:40
PS: what's the bottom part made of? It feels super heavy compared to the top part.
Aluminum
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 28 March 2017, 22:09:32
PS: what's the bottom part made of? It feels super heavy compared to the top part.
Considering the top part has a large cut out on it and the bottom is solid aluminum, I'd say that the bottom should feel heavier than the top
Post by: Potage on Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:34:46
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 29 March 2017, 01:38:29
Post by: Potage on Wed, 29 March 2017, 02:51:27
Post by: n__dles on Wed, 29 March 2017, 17:39:36
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 20:33:10
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 30 March 2017, 01:16:28
So I ordered the acrylic sheets to finally make the diffusers. I ordered them from a retailer in the UK as I could not find the right light-transmitting Opal Acrylic in the USA at a 2mm thickness. It will cap us at around 50-60 front diffusers which I think is more than plenty. SmittySteve and I are in close contact on this and he'll be sending out invoices soon - I'm estimating $8-9 shipped in the USA. So if any of you still haven't joined and want to, do it now! I'm guessing they will ship in about 2 weeks. The studio I found is going to cut them as I wait since it's such a small order. They will be shipped First Class with tracking (thick envelope) in the US. International folks should PM me or smittysteve to arrange shipping as sending it with tracking would be absurdly expensive for a small piece of $6 plastic. I'll post up when their made and in the meantime expect an email/invoice from Steve! Cheers!
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 30 March 2017, 01:46:47
Diffuser Update:Thank you so much for doing this man, who to contact if i want to add another diffuser to the order?
So I ordered the acrylic sheets to finally make the diffusers. I ordered them from a retailer in the UK as I could not find the right light-transmitting Opal Acrylic in the USA at a 2mm thickness. It will cap us at around 50-60 front diffusers which I think is more than plenty. SmittySteve and I are in close contact on this and he'll be sending out invoices soon - I'm estimating $8-9 shipped in the USA. So if any of you still haven't joined and want to, do it now! I'm guessing they will ship in about 2 weeks. The studio I found is going to cut them as I wait since it's such a small order. They will be shipped First Class with tracking (thick envelope) in the US. International folks should PM me or smittysteve to arrange shipping as sending it with tracking would be absurdly expensive for a small piece of $6 plastic. I'll post up when their made and in the meantime expect an email/invoice from Steve! Cheers!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 30 March 2017, 03:20:13
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 30 March 2017, 03:42:58
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform)
Ignore the questions about material choices - Quantity and PayPal/Contact is most important... Add to notes if you're outside of the USA. This is for a single front diffuser that matches the stock ones that came with the board with added Zeal compatibility.
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 30 March 2017, 08:39:52
Post by: poolside on Thu, 30 March 2017, 17:11:18
This is for a single front diffuser that matches the stock ones that came with the board with added Zeal compatibility.
Should the Cherry screw-in stabs from the current Originative GB be expected to interfere with the stock Duck front diffuser?
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 31 March 2017, 09:46:46
Edit: Made my own. I plan on having a stainless steel plate fabricated next week :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/g4qQQns.png?1)
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 02 April 2017, 02:18:12
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 02 April 2017, 02:39:38
anychance making one with brass?Does anyone have access or a copy to the .eps or .svg file that was used to create the Poly/Alum/SS plates? If so, please shoot me a pm!
Edit: Made my own. I plan on having a stainless steel plate fabricated next week :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g4qQQns.png?1)
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 02 April 2017, 04:48:24
Post by: dubious on Sun, 02 April 2017, 23:00:50
Just built my second Viper using 67g Zealios and a plastic plate - feels so good
Can you write a small comparison of acrylic vs ss/alu with a tactile switch like zealios?
If you can, thanks! :thumb:
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 02 April 2017, 23:04:01
Just built my second Viper using 67g Zealios and a plastic plate - feels so good
Can you write a small comparison of acrylic vs ss/alu with a tactile switch like zealios?
If you can, thanks! :thumb:
I'll write one up when I get home but so far I have found that on 67g Zealios the plastic plate feels much nicer than the Alu plate. I still have another one to build with the SS plate so I'll get around to writing that one up at some point
Post by: dubious on Sun, 02 April 2017, 23:09:31
Post by: profanum429 on Sun, 02 April 2017, 23:24:58
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 03 April 2017, 00:55:03
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Mon, 03 April 2017, 07:30:30
Finished the build yesterday.. potato pic below.. (Attachment Link)
Wow, turned out beautifully.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 03 April 2017, 09:46:52
Finished the build yesterday.. potato pic below.. (Attachment Link)Nice build! What switches are you using?
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 03 April 2017, 11:28:02
Finished the build yesterday.. potato pic below.. (Attachment Link)Nice build! What switches are you using?
vintage black 65g
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 03 April 2017, 15:13:57
Post by: dubious on Mon, 03 April 2017, 15:18:02
No updates from my end. Will let you know as soon as I hear from Duck.
thanks for the update elton!
Post by: anthorix on Mon, 03 April 2017, 15:43:40
It'll finally arrive... :cool:
Post by: mindxthinker on Tue, 04 April 2017, 00:16:43
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 04 April 2017, 00:40:19
No updates from my end. Will let you know as soon as I hear from Duck.
Any news on 2nd batch shipping?
scroll up a bit
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 06 April 2017, 18:30:47
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 06 April 2017, 19:22:54
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Post by: johnthedong on Thu, 06 April 2017, 19:39:49
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 06 April 2017, 19:54:43
Merlin64 will run it. It hasn't started yet.I know he will be running brass inserts, not sure about plate tho?
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Post by: gaiden on Thu, 06 April 2017, 20:16:16
Oops I misread.Merlin64 will run it. It hasn't started yet.I know he will be running brass inserts, not sure about plate tho?
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Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 06 April 2017, 21:06:57
Merlin64 will run it. It hasn't started yet.I know he will be running brass inserts, not sure about plate tho?
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Pretty sure you'll have to make/source a brass plate yourself
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:03:36
In terms of the weight, I am waiting for an email from Duck. Meanwhile my Orion/BB weight GB is still ongoing so I am unable to go through with any new GB yet.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:09:41
I am talking with someone about the plate, waiting on his feedback with the prototype.
In terms of the weight, I am waiting for an email from Duck. Meanwhile my Orion/BB weight GB is still ongoing so I am unable to go through with any new GB yet.
Count me in for plate and weight man if they both go ahead as planned.
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:08:13
I am talking with someone about the plate, waiting on his feedback with the prototype.Glad to hear from you, count me in if you plan to run brass Plate + Weight insert
In terms of the weight, I am waiting for an email from Duck. Meanwhile my Orion/BB weight GB is still ongoing so I am unable to go through with any new GB yet.
Thanks Merlin
Post by: Shados on Sat, 08 April 2017, 10:57:42
Chucked some newly-arrived XDA Milestone kits + Granite mods on, a combination that turned out better than I was expecting. Still need to do keyswitch LEDs, but not sure on the colour I want yet... additionally, this board is likely to end up with GMK caps, so I need to source 1.8mm LEDs. Anyone know an inexpensive supplier with a decent range of colours?
Now to flash it with a sane keymap...
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 08 April 2017, 20:30:45
I am talking with someone about the plate, waiting on his feedback with the prototype.
In terms of the weight, I am waiting for an email from Duck. Meanwhile my Orion/BB weight GB is still ongoing so I am unable to go through with any new GB yet.
Sounds great - am interested in this too should it come to fruition. I'm assuming that the weights will fit in the internal cutout on the bottom plate, right?
Post by: zoomwalt on Sat, 08 April 2017, 20:41:26
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 08 April 2017, 20:58:26
Sorry if this was asked somewhere else: is the PCB compatible with the eagle v1?
no, usb port is in a different location
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 08 April 2017, 21:11:31
Sorry if this was asked somewhere else: is the PCB compatible with the eagle v1?
no, usb port is in a different location
Yep - it's at the center now. I've yet to see other PCB's compatible with the viper/eagle series due to their different mounting holes etc, so be careful if you're soldering stuff to it!
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 08 April 2017, 21:42:13
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 09 April 2017, 00:33:41
Post by: Shados on Sun, 09 April 2017, 19:13:53
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 09 April 2017, 19:51:31
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 09 April 2017, 21:03:07
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.
Sounds good - that should be something I need to do! Thanks!
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 09 April 2017, 23:52:41
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.
Last question - does the switches wobble when you type on them with the holtites on? I imagine it would be fine seeing that there's the plate on top, but I might be mistaken. Thanks again!!
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 09 April 2017, 23:59:44
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.What kind of holtites did you use? and where to get it? (US)
Thanks man
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 10 April 2017, 00:19:53
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.What kind of holtites did you use? and where to get it? (US)
Thanks man
PS: Pretty sure they're the ones here: 8134-HC-8P3 or 8134-HC-8P2 for switches and 8134-HC-5P2 for LED's. I personally got mine at https://www.mouser.com, for a total of approx ~ $80 (150x each) with shipping.
Post by: Shados on Mon, 10 April 2017, 00:33:13
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.
Last question - does the switches wobble when you type on them with the holtites on? I imagine it would be fine seeing that there's the plate on top, but I might be mistaken. Thanks again!!
There's no wobble. They're pretty hard to get out again, actually -- you really need a pair of tweezers that curve in toward each other to remove the switches easily once they're in. Honestly, I think if you're using PCB-mount switches you could go plateless and they still wouldn't wobble. The holtites do indeed 'hold tight'.
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.What kind of holtites did you use? and where to get it? (US)
Thanks man
johnthedong is right about the part numbers for the holtites. Specifically, I used 8134-HC-8P2 for switches and 8134-HC-5P2 for LEDs, both of which are the gold variants. The tin ones are much cheaper but I wanted completely invisible bling, for some reason.
As for where I bought them, I got mine from onlinecomponents.com, but there are many electronics suppliers that sell them. As electronics suppliers give you price-breaks on unit pricing as you purchase more units at once, in order to figure out where to buy them you'll want to do something like:
- Decide roughly how many you want / can afford right now
- Google up a bunch of suppliers for them
- Figure out who is cheapest based on the amount you want and cost of shipping to you
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 10 April 2017, 00:47:06
I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.
Last question - does the switches wobble when you type on them with the holtites on? I imagine it would be fine seeing that there's the plate on top, but I might be mistaken. Thanks again!!
There's no wobble. They're pretty hard to get out again, actually -- you really need a pair of tweezers that curve in toward each other to remove the switches easily once they're in. Honestly, I think if you're using PCB-mount switches you could go plateless and they still wouldn't wobble. The holtites do indeed 'hold tight'.I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.What kind of holtites did you use? and where to get it? (US)
Thanks man
johnthedong is right about the part numbers for the holtites. Specifically, I used 8134-HC-8P2 for switches and 8134-HC-5P2 for LEDs, both of which are the gold variants. The tin ones are much cheaper but I wanted completely invisible bling, for some reason.
As for where I bought them, I got mine from onlinecomponents.com, but there are many electronics suppliers that sell them. As electronics suppliers give you price-breaks on unit pricing as you purchase more units at once, in order to figure out where to buy them you'll want to do something like:And remember, you need 2 per switch.
- Decide roughly how many you want / can afford right now
- Google up a bunch of suppliers for them
- Figure out who is cheapest based on the amount you want and cost of shipping to you
2 LED holtites and 2 switch holtites per switch - I accidentally ordered a few less due to this for another project before. I've found that mouser gives the cheapest quote if you're looking for smaller amounts too, and their shipping is usually really reasonable and fast. It's great to hear that they work pretty well - I'm assuming that the Duck Viper V2 board doesn't have any close holes (that might break if you insert them incorrectly) and such, right? Can't wait to get started on my kit!
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 10 April 2017, 01:59:20
Thanks guys, will it still work well without soldering iron, i actually dont have one thats why im planning to use holtitesI used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.
Last question - does the switches wobble when you type on them with the holtites on? I imagine it would be fine seeing that there's the plate on top, but I might be mistaken. Thanks again!!
There's no wobble. They're pretty hard to get out again, actually -- you really need a pair of tweezers that curve in toward each other to remove the switches easily once they're in. Honestly, I think if you're using PCB-mount switches you could go plateless and they still wouldn't wobble. The holtites do indeed 'hold tight'.I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.What kind of holtites did you use? and where to get it? (US)
Thanks man
johnthedong is right about the part numbers for the holtites. Specifically, I used 8134-HC-8P2 for switches and 8134-HC-5P2 for LEDs, both of which are the gold variants. The tin ones are much cheaper but I wanted completely invisible bling, for some reason.
As for where I bought them, I got mine from onlinecomponents.com, but there are many electronics suppliers that sell them. As electronics suppliers give you price-breaks on unit pricing as you purchase more units at once, in order to figure out where to buy them you'll want to do something like:And remember, you need 2 per switch.
- Decide roughly how many you want / can afford right now
- Google up a bunch of suppliers for them
- Figure out who is cheapest based on the amount you want and cost of shipping to you
2 LED holtites and 2 switch holtites per switch - I accidentally ordered a few less due to this for another project before. I've found that mouser gives the cheapest quote if you're looking for smaller amounts too, and their shipping is usually really reasonable and fast. It's great to hear that they work pretty well - I'm assuming that the Duck Viper V2 board doesn't have any close holes (that might break if you insert them incorrectly) and such, right? Can't wait to get started on my kit!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 10 April 2017, 02:06:13
So I got the plastic in! We're almost ready to ship. I'm going into the shop tomorrow to have the pieces cut while I wait!
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 10 April 2017, 02:11:35
Thanks guys, will it still work well without soldering iron, i actually dont have one thats why im planning to use holtitesI used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.
Last question - does the switches wobble when you type on them with the holtites on? I imagine it would be fine seeing that there's the plate on top, but I might be mistaken. Thanks again!!
There's no wobble. They're pretty hard to get out again, actually -- you really need a pair of tweezers that curve in toward each other to remove the switches easily once they're in. Honestly, I think if you're using PCB-mount switches you could go plateless and they still wouldn't wobble. The holtites do indeed 'hold tight'.I used both LED and switch holtites on my build (and also on my Blackbird). They work pretty well, just make sure you use a soldering iron (without solder) to push them in for a second or two. The heat and pressure help fix them in place and prevent them from coming out when you're removing switches... although that's not a huge issue either way.What kind of holtites did you use? and where to get it? (US)
Thanks man
johnthedong is right about the part numbers for the holtites. Specifically, I used 8134-HC-8P2 for switches and 8134-HC-5P2 for LEDs, both of which are the gold variants. The tin ones are much cheaper but I wanted completely invisible bling, for some reason.
As for where I bought them, I got mine from onlinecomponents.com, but there are many electronics suppliers that sell them. As electronics suppliers give you price-breaks on unit pricing as you purchase more units at once, in order to figure out where to buy them you'll want to do something like:And remember, you need 2 per switch.
- Decide roughly how many you want / can afford right now
- Google up a bunch of suppliers for them
- Figure out who is cheapest based on the amount you want and cost of shipping to you
2 LED holtites and 2 switch holtites per switch - I accidentally ordered a few less due to this for another project before. I've found that mouser gives the cheapest quote if you're looking for smaller amounts too, and their shipping is usually really reasonable and fast. It's great to hear that they work pretty well - I'm assuming that the Duck Viper V2 board doesn't have any close holes (that might break if you insert them incorrectly) and such, right? Can't wait to get started on my kit!
I am actually not sure - pretty sure that heat from the soldering iron would help with the seating of the holtites though but I've seen videos where people have inserted them without the soldering iron.
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 10 April 2017, 02:13:07
Diffuser Update:
So I got the plastic in! We're almost ready to ship. I'm going into the shop tomorrow to have the pieces cut while I wait!
Damnn any spares available?
PS: I've refilled the form again, sorry for the trouble if I've already filled in once before.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 10 April 2017, 04:46:20
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 10 April 2017, 10:36:55
Sorry for any confusion, we haven't invoiced yet... It will happen this week. Since it's going to be under $10 shipped (US) I figured there is no reason to have this long drawn out pay-period. If anyone can't afford to pay this week just PM me and we'll work it out -- no worries! On top of that, I'm sure we will have a few extra. If you're not sure if you filled out the form just do it again and leave a note of how many you actually want.
Thank you again for everything! That sounds great!
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 10 April 2017, 11:54:07
Post by: zacheadams on Mon, 10 April 2017, 11:59:27
Just heard from Duck that the 2nd batch will be delayed for a couple more weeks.
:'(
Post by: anthorix on Mon, 10 April 2017, 12:02:02
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 10 April 2017, 14:57:11
Post by: profanum429 on Tue, 11 April 2017, 10:40:29
Sorry for any confusion, we haven't invoiced yet... It will happen this week. Since it's going to be under $10 shipped (US) I figured there is no reason to have this long drawn out pay-period. If anyone can't afford to pay this week just PM me and we'll work it out -- no worries! On top of that, I'm sure we will have a few extra. If you're not sure if you filled out the form just do it again and leave a note of how many you actually want.
I'm looking forward to this :) Switching to Zeal stabilizers will satisfy my OCD.
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 11 April 2017, 18:24:51
Sorry for any confusion, we haven't invoiced yet... It will happen this week. Since it's going to be under $10 shipped (US) I figured there is no reason to have this long drawn out pay-period. If anyone can't afford to pay this week just PM me and we'll work it out -- no worries! On top of that, I'm sure we will have a few extra. If you're not sure if you filled out the form just do it again and leave a note of how many you actually want.
I'm looking forward to this :) Switching to Zeal stabilizers will satisfy my OCD.
I'll be culling through the form entries in the next day or so and will email everyone directly to confirm order since we had a few bits on the survey that were "what if" sorts of questions. One of us will invoice you after that- I'd say all invoices will be out by Friday. Then brother onmybike will be able to have the machine shop cut these babies and make sure everyone gets what they wanted.
LAST CALL FOR DIFFUSERS!! Folks in wave two shipping, don't be shy- better to order one now than wish you had done so later. Form will close at midnight (PST) 4/12 and we'll call orders final then.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 11 April 2017, 18:53:50
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 11 April 2017, 18:55:29
Only the front diffusers are needed, right ? Side diffusers should still be the same I guess. Ordering my Zeal stabs now, god they'e so expensive lol
That's correct. :thumb:
edit: Agreed, they are spendy, but MAN, they are nice. Happily typing on some now at work and there's not a rattle to be found.
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 11 April 2017, 20:36:00
Only the front diffusers are needed, right ? Side diffusers should still be the same I guess. Ordering my Zeal stabs now, god they'e so expensive lol
That's correct. :thumb:
edit: Agreed, they are spendy, but MAN, they are nice. Happily typing on some now at work and there's not a rattle to be found.
Gotcha, my wallet hates you but I'm getting some now! ;D
Post by: profanum429 on Tue, 11 April 2017, 20:43:40
Only the front diffusers are needed, right ? Side diffusers should still be the same I guess. Ordering my Zeal stabs now, god they'e so expensive lol
That's correct. :thumb:
edit: Agreed, they are spendy, but MAN, they are nice. Happily typing on some now at work and there's not a rattle to be found.
Gotcha, my wallet hates you but I'm getting some now! ;D
Yea, I just ordered a set from Zeal. I kinda wish I had thought of that when I ordered my Zealio's earlier to save on that shipping...
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 11 April 2017, 21:50:14
Just heard from Duck that the 2nd batch will be delayed for a couple more weeks.
This is so saddddddddd :(
Post by: johnthedong on Tue, 11 April 2017, 22:28:28
Only the front diffusers are needed, right ? Side diffusers should still be the same I guess. Ordering my Zeal stabs now, god they'e so expensive lol
That's correct. :thumb:
edit: Agreed, they are spendy, but MAN, they are nice. Happily typing on some now at work and there's not a rattle to be found.
Gotcha, my wallet hates you but I'm getting some now! ;D
Yea, I just ordered a set from Zeal. I kinda wish I had thought of that when I ordered my Zealio's earlier to save on that shipping...
+1, got a set just now too. :-\ :-\
Post by: zoomwalt on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:45:43
Sorry for any confusion, we haven't invoiced yet... It will happen this week. Since it's going to be under $10 shipped (US) I figured there is no reason to have this long drawn out pay-period. If anyone can't afford to pay this week just PM me and we'll work it out -- no worries! On top of that, I'm sure we will have a few extra. If you're not sure if you filled out the form just do it again and leave a note of how many you actually want.
I'm looking forward to this :) Switching to Zeal stabilizers will satisfy my OCD.
I'll be culling through the form entries in the next day or so and will email everyone directly to confirm order since we had a few bits on the survey that were "what if" sorts of questions. One of us will invoice you after that- I'd say all invoices will be out by Friday. Then brother onmybike will be able to have the machine shop cut these babies and make sure everyone gets what they wanted.
LAST CALL FOR DIFFUSERS!! Folks in wave two shipping, don't be shy- better to order one now than wish you had done so later. Form will close at midnight (PST) 4/12 and we'll call orders final then.
How do I order?
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:54:23
Sorry for any confusion, we haven't invoiced yet... It will happen this week. Since it's going to be under $10 shipped (US) I figured there is no reason to have this long drawn out pay-period. If anyone can't afford to pay this week just PM me and we'll work it out -- no worries! On top of that, I'm sure we will have a few extra. If you're not sure if you filled out the form just do it again and leave a note of how many you actually want.
I'm looking forward to this :) Switching to Zeal stabilizers will satisfy my OCD.
I'll be culling through the form entries in the next day or so and will email everyone directly to confirm order since we had a few bits on the survey that were "what if" sorts of questions. One of us will invoice you after that- I'd say all invoices will be out by Friday. Then brother onmybike will be able to have the machine shop cut these babies and make sure everyone gets what they wanted.
LAST CALL FOR DIFFUSERS!! Folks in wave two shipping, don't be shy- better to order one now than wish you had done so later. Form will close at midnight (PST) 4/12 and we'll call orders final then.
How do I order?
Right- good call... here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link
Post by: Weiss on Wed, 12 April 2017, 02:51:57
Right- good call... here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link
Any chance I can get a check if I filled this out? I swear I did, but I want to make sure before I miss deadline :eek:
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 12 April 2017, 04:27:17
Right- good call... here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link
Any chance I can get a check if I filled this out? I swear I did, but I want to make sure before I miss deadline :eek:
You're all good!
Post by: Potage on Wed, 12 April 2017, 04:43:05
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 12 April 2017, 04:44:57
Hey dudes, Steve ;) ... Thanks again for handling this brother. So I've had a very hectic start to my week... It's like every second is accounted for. Something came up Monday and I couldn't make it to the shop. I'm trying to get there by the end of week but in all honesty it might not happen until Monday the 17th as artist that's cutting them isn't there on the weekends. Good news is that they'll be cut as I wait so as soon as I have them in hand I should be able to pack em up and send em out within a day or two. So my apologies! I'll keep everyone posted...
Post by: midnight2903 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 05:14:06
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 12 April 2017, 05:43:10
Any idea if there will ever be a V3?Probably? He's working on the LS V3 right now...
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 12 April 2017, 10:18:07
Any idea if there will ever be a V3?Probably? He's working on the LS V3 right now...
Probably in like 2-3 years or so given his production schedule
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 10:20:52
Any idea if there will ever be a V3?Probably? He's working on the LS V3 right now...
Probably in like 2-3 years or so given his production schedule
...It's the next project. More like 4mo to a year.
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 12 April 2017, 10:34:07
Any idea if there will ever be a V3?Probably? He's working on the LS V3 right now...
Probably in like 2-3 years or so given his production schedule
...It's the next project. More like 4mo to a year.
Wait, do you mean the Viper/Eagle or the LS? Knowing his schedule (the current viper/eagle v2 was announced about 7-8 months ago, on 2016.09.26) and the fact that we're slow in shipping the second part, I really do doubt the next Viper/Eagle would come in that short amount of time. LS V3 would ship approx Q4 2017 and we would still be on schedule I guess.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 10:36:05
Any idea if there will ever be a V3?Probably? He's working on the LS V3 right now...
Probably in like 2-3 years or so given his production schedule
...It's the next project. More like 4mo to a year.
Wait, do you mean the Viper/Eagle or the LS? Knowing his schedule (the current viper/eagle v2 was announced about 7-8 months ago, on 2016.09.26) and the fact that we're slow in shipping the second part, I really do doubt the next Viper/Eagle would come in that short amount of time. LS V3 would ship approx Q4 2017 and we would still be on schedule I guess.
Ah, skimmed that incorrectly. I was referring to LS V3
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 11:17:57
Wait, do you mean the Viper/Eagle or the LS? Knowing his schedule (the current viper/eagle v2 was announced about 7-8 months ago, on 2016.09.26) and the fact that we're slow in shipping the second part, I really do doubt the next Viper/Eagle would come in that short amount of time. LS V3 would ship approx Q4 2017 and we would still be on schedule I guess.
I apologize if the delay is inconveniencing for you. Sadly, these delays in production is out of my control.
Edit-
What is your order number?
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 12 April 2017, 12:14:11
Wait, do you mean the Viper/Eagle or the LS? Knowing his schedule (the current viper/eagle v2 was announced about 7-8 months ago, on 2016.09.26) and the fact that we're slow in shipping the second part, I really do doubt the next Viper/Eagle would come in that short amount of time. LS V3 would ship approx Q4 2017 and we would still be on schedule I guess.
I apologize if the delay is inconveniencing for you. Sadly, these delays in production is out of my control.
Edit-
What is your order number?
Nah, I'm good as I've already gotten my vipers off market. When this gb started I wasn't even in the mk community yet lol. I was merely replying to the comments above about the V3 of viper/eagle.
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 12:31:55
Wait, do you mean the Viper/Eagle or the LS? Knowing his schedule (the current viper/eagle v2 was announced about 7-8 months ago, on 2016.09.26) and the fact that we're slow in shipping the second part, I really do doubt the next Viper/Eagle would come in that short amount of time. LS V3 would ship approx Q4 2017 and we would still be on schedule I guess.
I apologize if the delay is inconveniencing for you. Sadly, these delays in production is out of my control.
Edit-
What is your order number?
Nah, I'm good as I've already gotten my vipers off market. When this gb started I wasn't even in the mk community yet lol. I was merely replying to the comments above about the V3 of viper/eagle.
Sounds good, wanted to make sure you're well taken care of :).
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 12 April 2017, 13:13:32
Do you think 2nd patch will be ship out by the end of this month?Wait, do you mean the Viper/Eagle or the LS? Knowing his schedule (the current viper/eagle v2 was announced about 7-8 months ago, on 2016.09.26) and the fact that we're slow in shipping the second part, I really do doubt the next Viper/Eagle would come in that short amount of time. LS V3 would ship approx Q4 2017 and we would still be on schedule I guess.
I apologize if the delay is inconveniencing for you. Sadly, these delays in production is out of my control.
Edit-
What is your order number?
Nah, I'm good as I've already gotten my vipers off market. When this gb started I wasn't even in the mk community yet lol. I was merely replying to the comments above about the V3 of viper/eagle.
Sounds good, wanted to make sure you're well taken care of :).
Post by: techfresh on Thu, 13 April 2017, 00:53:57
Right- good call... here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link
Any chance I can get a check if I filled this out? I swear I did, but I want to make sure before I miss deadline :eek:
You're all good!
I don't think I've received an invoice. Can you please check if my order is all good? Also did I only buy one? I need 2, I will submit another order if I'm only good for 1 so far.
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 11:22:57
Right- good call... here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegFXZikG0UzYC-x01-bZ4Yjsvcsd9jbi5aJNwITHwEV3isYg/viewform?usp=sf_link
Any chance I can get a check if I filled this out? I swear I did, but I want to make sure before I miss deadline :eek:
You're all good!
I don't think I've received an invoice. Can you please check if my order is all good? Also did I only buy one? I need 2, I will submit another order if I'm only good for 1 so far.
Howdy- you're all set- we have you in there for two.
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 11:52:01
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:15:52
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:28:33
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Yes, this is a good point! Form is still open now, though I will be closing it soon so onmybike can go forth with the cutting. Since the diffuser template is available, I suppose if you wait now and end up needing one later, you'd just pay more for a one-off through Big Blue Saw, etc...
I would say that anyone in shipping wave two who is planning to use Zeal stabs should pick up a new/ compatible front diffuser. (Remember the new diffuser is only for the front and is a frosted acrylic- a drop-in replacement for the one provided by Duck that accommodates the Zeal stabs.)
Post by: inosint on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:56:14
Thanks again for doing this guys.Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Yes, this is a good point! Form is still open now, though I will be closing it soon so onmybike can go forth with the cutting. Since the diffuser template is available, I suppose if you wait now and end up needing one later, you'd just pay more for a one-off through Big Blue Saw, etc...
I would say that anyone in shipping wave two who is planning to use Zeal stabs should pick up a new/ compatible front diffuser. (Remember the new diffuser is only for the front and is a frosted acrylic- a drop-in replacement for the one provided by Duck that accommodates the Zeal stabs.)
Out of curiosity, has anyone completed a build with the new compatible diffuser? Was a prototype diffuser cut for testing purposes ?
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:01:53
Thanks again for doing this guys.Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Yes, this is a good point! Form is still open now, though I will be closing it soon so onmybike can go forth with the cutting. Since the diffuser template is available, I suppose if you wait now and end up needing one later, you'd just pay more for a one-off through Big Blue Saw, etc...
I would say that anyone in shipping wave two who is planning to use Zeal stabs should pick up a new/ compatible front diffuser. (Remember the new diffuser is only for the front and is a frosted acrylic- a drop-in replacement for the one provided by Duck that accommodates the Zeal stabs.)
Out of curiosity, has anyone completed a build with the new compatible diffuser? Was a prototype diffuser cut for testing purposes ?
No worries. Onmybikedrunk is doing all the heavy lifting - I just volunteered for some logistics support.
And on the test build- no, not that I know of. He's just received the material and will be having it cut soon. Should be all good since he just added a bit more clearance for the bottom row Zeal stabs that were bumping the Duck diffuser, but I'm sure he'll test once he has them in hand before shipping.
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 14 April 2017, 10:24:26
Thanks again for doing this guys.Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Yes, this is a good point! Form is still open now, though I will be closing it soon so onmybike can go forth with the cutting. Since the diffuser template is available, I suppose if you wait now and end up needing one later, you'd just pay more for a one-off through Big Blue Saw, etc...
I would say that anyone in shipping wave two who is planning to use Zeal stabs should pick up a new/ compatible front diffuser. (Remember the new diffuser is only for the front and is a frosted acrylic- a drop-in replacement for the one provided by Duck that accommodates the Zeal stabs.)
Out of curiosity, has anyone completed a build with the new compatible diffuser? Was a prototype diffuser cut for testing purposes ?
No worries. Onmybikedrunk is doing all the heavy lifting - I just volunteered for some logistics support.
And on the test build- no, not that I know of. He's just received the material and will be having it cut soon. Should be all good since he just added a bit more clearance for the bottom row Zeal stabs that were bumping the Duck diffuser, but I'm sure he'll test once he has them in hand before shipping.
In for 2 if it's not too late? :blank:
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 14 April 2017, 10:36:14
Thanks again for doing this guys.Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Yes, this is a good point! Form is still open now, though I will be closing it soon so onmybike can go forth with the cutting. Since the diffuser template is available, I suppose if you wait now and end up needing one later, you'd just pay more for a one-off through Big Blue Saw, etc...
I would say that anyone in shipping wave two who is planning to use Zeal stabs should pick up a new/ compatible front diffuser. (Remember the new diffuser is only for the front and is a frosted acrylic- a drop-in replacement for the one provided by Duck that accommodates the Zeal stabs.)
Out of curiosity, has anyone completed a build with the new compatible diffuser? Was a prototype diffuser cut for testing purposes ?
No worries. Onmybikedrunk is doing all the heavy lifting - I just volunteered for some logistics support.
And on the test build- no, not that I know of. He's just received the material and will be having it cut soon. Should be all good since he just added a bit more clearance for the bottom row Zeal stabs that were bumping the Duck diffuser, but I'm sure he'll test once he has them in hand before shipping.
In for 2 if it's not too late? :blank:
Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
Post by: donjoan666 on Fri, 14 April 2017, 14:21:47
Thanks again for doing this guys.Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
when will be the last day for people to join?
It seems that only the 1st batch receive their keyboards and have chances to try...
Yes, this is a good point! Form is still open now, though I will be closing it soon so onmybike can go forth with the cutting. Since the diffuser template is available, I suppose if you wait now and end up needing one later, you'd just pay more for a one-off through Big Blue Saw, etc...
I would say that anyone in shipping wave two who is planning to use Zeal stabs should pick up a new/ compatible front diffuser. (Remember the new diffuser is only for the front and is a frosted acrylic- a drop-in replacement for the one provided by Duck that accommodates the Zeal stabs.)
Out of curiosity, has anyone completed a build with the new compatible diffuser? Was a prototype diffuser cut for testing purposes ?
No worries. Onmybikedrunk is doing all the heavy lifting - I just volunteered for some logistics support.
And on the test build- no, not that I know of. He's just received the material and will be having it cut soon. Should be all good since he just added a bit more clearance for the bottom row Zeal stabs that were bumping the Duck diffuser, but I'm sure he'll test once he has them in hand before shipping.
In for 2 if it's not too late? :blank:
Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
You see any wooble when you type switches juntured with holtite? :D
And you still need to solder LED or Sip socket right? :(
Post by: Mumei on Fri, 14 April 2017, 15:26:12
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 14 April 2017, 19:30:07
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Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
You see any wooble when you type switches juntured with holtite? :D
And you still need to solder LED or Sip socket right? :(
No wobble at all on a few switches I tested. There's holtites for LED's too, and they work great too! I might pop in SIP sockets for the information LED's (the LED strip at the top) though. but holtites work too.
Post by: donjoan666 on Fri, 14 April 2017, 20:56:02
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Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
You see any wooble when you type switches juntured with holtite? :D
And you still need to solder LED or Sip socket right? :(
No wobble at all on a few switches I tested. There's holtites for LED's too, and they work great too! I might pop in SIP sockets for the information LED's (the LED strip at the top) though. but holtites work too.
There's holtite for LED too? :eek:
Would you let me know where I can buy?....
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 14 April 2017, 23:25:42
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Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
You see any wooble when you type switches juntured with holtite? :D
And you still need to solder LED or Sip socket right? :(
No wobble at all on a few switches I tested. There's holtites for LED's too, and they work great too! I might pop in SIP sockets for the information LED's (the LED strip at the top) though. but holtites work too.
There's holtite for LED too? :eek:
Would you let me know where I can buy?....
No worries - Here's the holtites you need for both the switches and the LED's. Shop around to see where you can get them the cheapest as that varies from quantity to your location.
8134-HC-5P2 - LED - (example buying link that I got mine from) http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/8134-HC-5P2/?qs=2mZjssE3HVW2oxs%252bzdwmWw%3D%3D
8134-HC-8P2 - Switches - http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/8134-HC-8P2/?qs=2mZjssE3HVXK3Y0NGiZ2AQ%3D%3D
Note that there's also the silver colored version for both of them that is identical. Only difference is the anodization and the price. :)
Hopefully this helps you!
Post by: donjoan666 on Fri, 14 April 2017, 23:37:50
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Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
You see any wooble when you type switches juntured with holtite? :D
And you still need to solder LED or Sip socket right? :(
No wobble at all on a few switches I tested. There's holtites for LED's too, and they work great too! I might pop in SIP sockets for the information LED's (the LED strip at the top) though. but holtites work too.
There's holtite for LED too? :eek:
Would you let me know where I can buy?....
No worries - Here's the holtites you need for both the switches and the LED's. Shop around to see where you can get them the cheapest as that varies from quantity to your location.
8134-HC-5P2 - LED - (example buying link that I got mine from) http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/8134-HC-5P2/?qs=2mZjssE3HVW2oxs%252bzdwmWw%3D%3D
8134-HC-8P2 - Switches - http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/8134-HC-8P2/?qs=2mZjssE3HVXK3Y0NGiZ2AQ%3D%3D
Note that there's also the silver colored version for both of them that is identical. Only difference is the anodization and the price. :)
Hopefully this helps you!
:eek:
unbelievable what is this site ;_; Whole new world again.......
Thanks a lot.... :D
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 14 April 2017, 23:42:41
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Still haven't received the invoices yet, so you should still on time.
On another note, I've just gotten around to install holtites on my board. It works perfectly such that I didn't even need to force the holtites in using a solder gun.
You see any wooble when you type switches juntured with holtite? :D
And you still need to solder LED or Sip socket right? :(
No wobble at all on a few switches I tested. There's holtites for LED's too, and they work great too! I might pop in SIP sockets for the information LED's (the LED strip at the top) though. but holtites work too.
There's holtite for LED too? :eek:
Would you let me know where I can buy?....
No worries - Here's the holtites you need for both the switches and the LED's. Shop around to see where you can get them the cheapest as that varies from quantity to your location.
8134-HC-5P2 - LED - (example buying link that I got mine from) http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity/8134-HC-5P2/?qs=2mZjssE3HVW2oxs%252bzdwmWw%3D%3D
8134-HC-8P2 - Switches - http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-AMP/8134-HC-8P2/?qs=2mZjssE3HVXK3Y0NGiZ2AQ%3D%3D
Note that there's also the silver colored version for both of them that is identical. Only difference is the anodization and the price. :)
Hopefully this helps you!
:eek:
unbelievable what is this site ;_; Whole new world again.......
Thanks a lot.... :D
You're welcome :). Note that some of the side sockets might not fit the holtites due to multiple holes being in close proximity.
Edit: only 1 hole on the right backspace/delete has this problem, everything else should holtite fine.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 15 April 2017, 12:52:37
Post by: profanum429 on Sat, 15 April 2017, 13:22:50
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 15 April 2017, 13:23:28
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 15 April 2017, 13:27:05
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Post by: Potage on Sat, 15 April 2017, 13:36:26
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 15 April 2017, 16:02:08
Post by: profanum429 on Sat, 15 April 2017, 18:53:55
Just wondering, to use zeal stabs the only problem right now is the diffusers, right? No other issues such as the screws causing stuff to short out, right? Thanks!
I think there still might be a chance to short a key but should be pretty easy to alleviate by seeing where the screws hit any pads and masking those off with some tape or a nylon washer maybe.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 15 April 2017, 20:48:40
Just wondering, to use zeal stabs the only problem right now is the diffusers, right? No other issues such as the screws causing stuff to short out, right? Thanks!
I think there still might be a chance to short a key but should be pretty easy to alleviate by seeing where the screws hit any pads and masking those off with some tape or a nylon washer maybe.
Okie, sounds good! Time to break out the dental bands when the stabs come :D.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 15 April 2017, 23:45:17
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 17 April 2017, 13:43:18
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Somehow I didnt receive any email about invoicing?
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 17 April 2017, 18:22:07
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Somehow I didnt receive any email about invoicing?
Got all the emails out late Saturday night. I'll check this evening to see where yours went.
General update: have final order numbers and confirmations. Thanks to all for the quick email replies. Sorting out final amounts with onmybikedrunk next day or so then invoices and shipping to quickly follow.
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 17 April 2017, 18:56:53
I've sent you my email to your inbox, incase you didnt see it here it isHi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Somehow I didnt receive any email about invoicing?
Got all the emails out late Saturday night. I'll check this evening to see where yours went.
General update: have final order numbers and confirmations. Thanks to all for the quick email replies. Sorting out final amounts with onmybikedrunk next day or so then invoices and shipping to quickly follow.
vongthieudat@yahoo.com
I've filled out for 2 diffusers, can you make sure that ill receice the invoice before its over
Thanks alot!
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 19 April 2017, 00:37:58
PPS: Planning to build using full zeals and go without the front diffuser for awhile until the upgraded diffusers arrive :D
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 19 April 2017, 01:06:09
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Somehow I didnt receive any email about invoicing?
Got all the emails out late Saturday night. I'll check this evening to see where yours went.
General update: have final order numbers and confirmations. Thanks to all for the quick email replies. Sorting out final amounts with onmybikedrunk next day or so then invoices and shipping to quickly follow.
I think because i changed my name from Soclose1993 to Blackink, maybe thats why i didnt receive my invoice?
Post by: renzpwns on Wed, 19 April 2017, 03:31:06
To anyone who used Zeal stabs here, is the shorts only on the back of the PCB? I've taped the possible connections up before popping the screws, but I'm wondering just in case.I taped the spots close to where the screw goes in and I've had no problems so far. I have Zeal stabs on Enter, LShift and Spacebar with the front diffuser on. Been typing on the board for a month now.
PPS: Planning to build using full zeals and go without the front diffuser for awhile until the upgraded diffusers arrive :D
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 19 April 2017, 09:09:47
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Somehow I didnt receive any email about invoicing?
Got all the emails out late Saturday night. I'll check this evening to see where yours went.
General update: have final order numbers and confirmations. Thanks to all for the quick email replies. Sorting out final amounts with onmybikedrunk next day or so then invoices and shipping to quickly follow.
I think because i changed my name from Soclose1993 to Blackink, maybe thats why i didnt receive my invoice?
I don't think invoices have gone out yet.
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 19 April 2017, 09:54:13
To anyone who used Zeal stabs here, is the shorts only on the back of the PCB? I've taped the possible connections up before popping the screws, but I'm wondering just in case.I taped the spots close to where the screw goes in and I've had no problems so far. I have Zeal stabs on Enter, LShift and Spacebar with the front diffuser on. Been typing on the board for a month now.
PPS: Planning to build using full zeals and go without the front diffuser for awhile until the upgraded diffusers arrive :D
Interesting, so just the bottom of the PCB should be taped? Are you using your default diffusers with it? Thanks!
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 19 April 2017, 12:45:56
Hi All,
Diffuser update:
-I'll send emails out tonight to double check orders.
-Invoice will be sent after order is confirmed.
Thanks and have a good one!
Just checking to make sure I haven't missed an email yet! I think I put in for two on the form earlier.
+1, but I think we're good as I've not gotten an email either! :)
All good. Got half out yesterday. Rest to come today.
Somehow I didnt receive any email about invoicing?
Got all the emails out late Saturday night. I'll check this evening to see where yours went.
General update: have final order numbers and confirmations. Thanks to all for the quick email replies. Sorting out final amounts with onmybikedrunk next day or so then invoices and shipping to quickly follow.
I think because i changed my name from Soclose1993 to Blackink, maybe thats why i didnt receive my invoice?
I don't think invoices have gone out yet.
Hi all- invoices haven't gone out yet... sorry for delay. Onmybike and I have both had some 'life' going on...
Going to pow-wow with him to make sure we get amounts right and all that and then will be sending invoices and getting these out the door.
Post by: renzpwns on Wed, 19 April 2017, 16:32:19
Yeah I did just the bottom side, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to do the top as well. And I did use the default diffuser where the the screw for the stab kinda pushed it but not to the point of snapping it. I think it's fine honestly even after putting the board together.To anyone who used Zeal stabs here, is the shorts only on the back of the PCB? I've taped the possible connections up before popping the screws, but I'm wondering just in case.I taped the spots close to where the screw goes in and I've had no problems so far. I have Zeal stabs on Enter, LShift and Spacebar with the front diffuser on. Been typing on the board for a month now.
PPS: Planning to build using full zeals and go without the front diffuser for awhile until the upgraded diffusers arrive :D
Interesting, so just the bottom of the PCB should be taped? Are you using your default diffusers with it? Thanks!
Post by: Mizzazz on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:13:04
(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 19 April 2017, 17:21:01
So I went to the studio today to get the diffusers cut. Now I took off the protective sheet once I got there and low and behold - it's basically white. $*%&! Why am I such an idiot that I didn't check BEFORE I went to the studio? That, I couldn't tell yah - just busy I suppose. So I'm back to square one looking for the right material. I will take any advice I can get. Start looking people! The smallest width in the US I can find is 3mm which will prop the board up and there will be a gap between the two aluminum pieces (even more exaggerated than what Mizzazz just posted - not good). Good news is that the tolerances look great and it works. Bad news is that it's gonna be at least two more weeks before they can ship. F$#@!
EDIT:
I FOUND THE RIGHT MATERIAL! AND IN THE US!
If you guys do decide to hunt down the right acrylic (and I am waiting on a response from Duck to see if he can send me the source acrylic sheeting) keep in mind that 1.) It can't be frosted - it must be cast to have a cloudy/icy kinda appearance 2.) It must have light transmission values around 70-80% (I think). See pics below.
ORDERS:
Smittysteve has emailed everyone on his list to confirm orders. If you received an email from him you're all good to go and there's no need to resubmit anything or contact him (unless you didn't get an email). Once we finalize cost (aka get the right materials this time) then we'll invoice everyone. I'm really sorry this happened and I know some of you are waiting to build. My advice would be build without it and then you can pretty easily throw it in there once the order arrives. I am going to make this as speedy as possible.
Pics:
Here is the final cut "prototype"! Looks good and functions as it should.
(http://i.imgur.com/M4Npbxw.jpg)
Here is a pic showing the light transmission/opacity values of the ORIGINAL piece to help your search for 2mm "Acrylic Ice" sheet
(http://i.imgur.com/WbvYbP5.jpg)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:53:20
(https://www.acrylite-shop.com/pix/rendered/221x287/light-diffusing-Satinice-acrylic-0D010.jpg)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 19 April 2017, 19:20:58
Finally, found the right stuff!Show Image(https://www.acrylite-shop.com/pix/rendered/221x287/light-diffusing-Satinice-acrylic-0D010.jpg)
:yee:
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 19 April 2017, 22:07:30
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Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 20 April 2017, 01:07:29
Is anyone who has their viper having this issue?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Is that the stock diffuser? Are you using Zeal/Screw stabs? My keyboard assembles normally. I am using a PCB mount stabilizer for the spacebar.
Post by: Mizzazz on Thu, 20 April 2017, 05:01:08
Is anyone who has their viper having this issue?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Is that the stock diffuser? Are you using Zeal/Screw stabs? My keyboard assembles normally. I am using a PCB mount stabilizer for the spacebar.
Yeah it's the stock diffuser and I am using regular PCB mount cherry stabs for all the stabilized keys. It genuinely looks like my piece of acrylic is just slightly too thick. Does yours come up higher than the pieces of metal it sits between?
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 20 April 2017, 07:05:35
Looks like it might be 1mm too thick.. can you measure and see if it's 2mm or 3mm? Is it the diffuser too thick and pushing up the case or is it the top part of the case being too short?Is anyone who has their viper having this issue?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Is that the stock diffuser? Are you using Zeal/Screw stabs? My keyboard assembles normally. I am using a PCB mount stabilizer for the spacebar.
Yeah it's the stock diffuser and I am using regular PCB mount cherry stabs for all the stabilized keys. It genuinely looks like my piece of acrylic is just slightly too thick. Does yours come up higher than the pieces of metal it sits between?
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Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 20 April 2017, 08:22:51
Post by: Mizzazz on Thu, 20 April 2017, 14:23:10
Looks like it might be 1mm too thick.. can you measure and see if it's 2mm or 3mm? Is it the diffuser too thick and pushing up the case or is it the top part of the case being too short?Is anyone who has their viper having this issue?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Is that the stock diffuser? Are you using Zeal/Screw stabs? My keyboard assembles normally. I am using a PCB mount stabilizer for the spacebar.
Yeah it's the stock diffuser and I am using regular PCB mount cherry stabs for all the stabilized keys. It genuinely looks like my piece of acrylic is just slightly too thick. Does yours come up higher than the pieces of metal it sits between?
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
I just measured the diffuser, it's about 2.5mm? Although I measured using a ruler so I can't attest to how accurate it is. It definitely seems like it's too thick though as it seems to mess with my spacebar as well. When it's in my spacebar feels kinda.. mushy? (stabs are clipped btw) and when I remove it it's fine just like all the other keys. I've taken it out for now and I may just sand it down.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:35:06
Looks like it might be 1mm too thick.. can you measure and see if it's 2mm or 3mm? Is it the diffuser too thick and pushing up the case or is it the top part of the case being too short?Is anyone who has their viper having this issue?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Is that the stock diffuser? Are you using Zeal/Screw stabs? My keyboard assembles normally. I am using a PCB mount stabilizer for the spacebar.
Yeah it's the stock diffuser and I am using regular PCB mount cherry stabs for all the stabilized keys. It genuinely looks like my piece of acrylic is just slightly too thick. Does yours come up higher than the pieces of metal it sits between?
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
I just measured the diffuser, it's about 2.5mm? Although I measured using a ruler so I can't attest to how accurate it is. It definitely seems like it's too thick though as it seems to mess with my spacebar as well. When it's in my spacebar feels kinda.. mushy? (stabs are clipped btw) and when I remove it it's fine just like all the other keys. I've taken it out for now and I may just sand it down.
Just a thought. Did you take off the plastic film protecting both sides?
Post by: dblack on Thu, 20 April 2017, 20:03:23
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 20 April 2017, 22:52:35
Post by: Mizzazz on Fri, 21 April 2017, 02:07:23
Looks like it might be 1mm too thick.. can you measure and see if it's 2mm or 3mm? Is it the diffuser too thick and pushing up the case or is it the top part of the case being too short?Is anyone who has their viper having this issue?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmCztQd.jpg)
The bottom plate seems to bend around the front acrylic piece like it's too thick or something. I just want to make sure I haven't assembled it wrong or anything. The diffuser is definitely facing the right way, too.
Any ideas?
Is that the stock diffuser? Are you using Zeal/Screw stabs? My keyboard assembles normally. I am using a PCB mount stabilizer for the spacebar.
Yeah it's the stock diffuser and I am using regular PCB mount cherry stabs for all the stabilized keys. It genuinely looks like my piece of acrylic is just slightly too thick. Does yours come up higher than the pieces of metal it sits between?
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
I just measured the diffuser, it's about 2.5mm? Although I measured using a ruler so I can't attest to how accurate it is. It definitely seems like it's too thick though as it seems to mess with my spacebar as well. When it's in my spacebar feels kinda.. mushy? (stabs are clipped btw) and when I remove it it's fine just like all the other keys. I've taken it out for now and I may just sand it down.
Just a thought. Did you take off the plastic film protecting both sides?
Haha, yeah I did remove that. Unless there's more than one layer of film on each side then I think my one is just too thick.
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Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 21 April 2017, 03:00:39
When I spoke to Duck about the tolerances for the diffusers he mentioned he wasn't happy about the variations that came with the 2mm thickness. It looks like you got unlucky and just got a bad piece...
Post by: Mizzazz on Fri, 21 April 2017, 03:02:08
Mizzazz:
When I spoke to Duck about the tolerances for the diffusers he mentioned he wasn't happy about the variations that came with the 2mm thickness. It looks like you got unlucky and just got a bad piece...
Fair enough. It's not a huge deal - just a bit of sanding required really. Thanks for the help everyone!
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:59:19
Edit-
Gone now.
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 11:02:08
Order #97 is up for grabs for takeover. PM me.
This is everyones chance, gl
Post by: midnight2903 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:54:08
Order #97 is up for grabs for takeover. PM me.
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:57:18
Post by: midnight2903 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:58:15
Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 22 April 2017, 04:16:42
:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Post by: midnight2903 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 08:58:02
:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Damn thats hardcore, if I have gotten a viper v2 I probably wouldn't have joined in on the Revo RJ.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 22 April 2017, 12:59:55
:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Damn thats hardcore, if I have gotten a viper v2 I probably wouldn't have joined in on the Revo RJ.
:P I've spent way too much on this hobby ...
Post by: zoomwalt on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:15:06
:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Damn thats hardcore, if I have gotten a viper v2 I probably wouldn't have joined in on the Revo RJ.
:P I've spent way too much on this hobby ...
At what point does a hobby become an obsession?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:22:39
:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Damn thats hardcore, if I have gotten a viper v2 I probably wouldn't have joined in on the Revo RJ.
:P I've spent way too much on this hobby ...
At what point does a hobby become an obsession?
About 2 boards before you start thinking about it.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:33:49
At some point you start influencing the people around you... I've gotten some of my friends into getting HHKB's and a duck viper v2 so far as I bring my bt type-s everywhere I go to code.:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Damn thats hardcore, if I have gotten a viper v2 I probably wouldn't have joined in on the Revo RJ.
:P I've spent way too much on this hobby ...
At what point does a hobby become an obsession?
About 2 boards before you start thinking about it.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:37:55
At some point you start influencing the people around you... I've gotten some of my friends into getting HHKB's and a duck viper v2 so far as I bring my bt type-s everywhere I go to code.
Haha, I've got a mate into buying a RS68 kit and a JTK Keyset, not the most high-end stuff, but certainly an upgrade from his Blackwidow Chroma
Post by: Potage on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:46:22
:P I didn't manage to get it at the end as it was already sold, but I do have 2 vipers already. :))Pm'ed lolRevo RJ + this? DAMN haha
Buy now, regret later lol.
Damn thats hardcore, if I have gotten a viper v2 I probably wouldn't have joined in on the Revo RJ.
:P I've spent way too much on this hobby ...
At what point does a hobby become an obsession?
I think it's when after buying an Eagle v2, you buy an EM7 GH Edition :-X
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:55:19
At some point you start influencing the people around you... I've gotten some of my friends into getting HHKB's and a duck viper v2 so far as I bring my bt type-s everywhere I go to code.
Haha, I've got a mate into buying a RS68 kit and a JTK Keyset, not the most high-end stuff, but certainly an upgrade from his Blackwidow Chroma
Give them some time and they'll start moving to the higher end stuff too :P. This hobby is a neverending black hole lol
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 22 April 2017, 14:56:13
Post by: anthorix on Mon, 24 April 2017, 17:21:26
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 24 April 2017, 21:09:13
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 24 April 2017, 21:31:23
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 25 April 2017, 04:58:50
Interesting, the current diffuser works with my zeal stabs lol. Just assembled another viper v2 using a Zeal stabs
I'm so confused...
Why someone can use zeal stabs but someone can't???
I've seen someone on reddit, he was selling his Eagle/Viper on /r/mechmarket and he was using zeal stabs as well...
Post by: Potage on Tue, 25 April 2017, 05:26:23
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 25 April 2017, 13:41:37
It seems that the front diffuser thickness isn't the same in every kit as said a few posts ago. So maybe a thicker diffuser can interfere with Zeal's stabs.
I think this is the case. Graphic below is from Pokono when you look at their acrylic pieces. Pretty large tolerances for what exactly is a "1.5mm" acrylic in this case. Within the thread and the round 1 shipments, we've seen one where the diffuser is pretty thin and leaves a gap and several that are a bit thick and bump the Zeal stab screws... I would probably expect the same from the new pieces that onmybikedrunk has sourced- so I suppose it's a little bit of a crapshoot either from maker or secondary market. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(http://i.imgur.com/bUMegYg.png)
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 26 April 2017, 20:04:18
Post by: profanum429 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 20:17:56
I've generated a hex file with my custom keymapping using 02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.8.622, and tried to flash it using dfu-programmer (that I use to flash my other keymaps). The erase/writing works fine, but the keyboard is not working afterwards (no LED's light up etc). :-[ Anyone have any luck with custom keymaps?
Maybe try 1.10.653? https://gist.github.com/ankailou/0b3f3183429536d86ecf4e7d27860b6c Is what I followed to set mine up and I was able to get it to work pretty consistently and get all my layers and function layers programmer how I wanted them.
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 26 April 2017, 20:20:51
I've generated a hex file with my custom keymapping using 02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.8.622, and tried to flash it using dfu-programmer (that I use to flash my other keymaps). The erase/writing works fine, but the keyboard is not working afterwards (no LED's light up etc). :-[ Anyone have any luck with custom keymaps?
Maybe try 1.10.653? https://gist.github.com/ankailou/0b3f3183429536d86ecf4e7d27860b6c Is what I followed to set mine up and I was able to get it to work pretty consistently and get all my layers and function layers programmer how I wanted them.
Sounds good, thanks for the headsup! The board works originally when unflashed so I'm pretty sure it's not a soldering issue etc. Trying this now :D
Post by: profanum429 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 20:26:14
I've generated a hex file with my custom keymapping using 02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.8.622, and tried to flash it using dfu-programmer (that I use to flash my other keymaps). The erase/writing works fine, but the keyboard is not working afterwards (no LED's light up etc). :-[ Anyone have any luck with custom keymaps?
Maybe try 1.10.653? https://gist.github.com/ankailou/0b3f3183429536d86ecf4e7d27860b6c Is what I followed to set mine up and I was able to get it to work pretty consistently and get all my layers and function layers programmer how I wanted them.
Edit:
I'm also thinking about trying to get QMK running on the second pcb I got from you :) Just need to sit down and figure out the row and column matrix first. I might give it some work this weekend...
Sounds good, thanks for the headsup! The board works originally when unflashed so I'm pretty sure it's not a soldering issue etc. Trying this now :D
I do find it a little tricky; I've had the best luck assigning my keys, saving to a file, putting the board into boot loader mode then doing the upload. If I have to change anything I exit the mapper and restart it and open my last saved file and repeat the previous steps. I ran into different issues if I changed keys without saving or did multiple saves before uploading; but that might just be me.
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 26 April 2017, 21:03:49
I've generated a hex file with my custom keymapping using 02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.8.622, and tried to flash it using dfu-programmer (that I use to flash my other keymaps). The erase/writing works fine, but the keyboard is not working afterwards (no LED's light up etc). :-[ Anyone have any luck with custom keymaps?
Maybe try 1.10.653? https://gist.github.com/ankailou/0b3f3183429536d86ecf4e7d27860b6c Is what I followed to set mine up and I was able to get it to work pretty consistently and get all my layers and function layers programmer how I wanted them.
Edit:
I'm also thinking about trying to get QMK running on the second pcb I got from you :) Just need to sit down and figure out the row and column matrix first. I might give it some work this weekend...
Sounds good, thanks for the headsup! The board works originally when unflashed so I'm pretty sure it's not a soldering issue etc. Trying this now :D
I do find it a little tricky; I've had the best luck assigning my keys, saving to a file, putting the board into boot loader mode then doing the upload. If I have to change anything I exit the mapper and restart it and open my last saved file and repeat the previous steps. I ran into different issues if I changed keys without saving or did multiple saves before uploading; but that might just be me.
Whew, managed to get it working - apparently 1.8.622 on Duck's site is not up to date and does not generate working hex files for the V2's. I should've known better when the programming interface only allowed me to program the V1's. :D
I generated the hex file again using the 1.10 version, and loaded it to the keyboard as usual. Lights came on and everything works as expected!
Thank you again for the help, I would've been stuck here all night long should I not have figured that I was using the wrong version. Also shoutout to smittysmith for PM'ing me to offer help! I <3 this community so much!
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 26 April 2017, 21:21:40
Post by: profanum429 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 21:36:59
Last question, did you guys manage to get the media keys working in Mac? It kind of works if I mash a few media keys together, but it's not working when I press individual keys. :(
I unfortunately haven't tried those :( I have a MacBook I can try it on tomorrow though.
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 26 April 2017, 22:48:35
Im new to custom mech. Do i need to download anything after putting all the the parts together? Or just plug in and type?
I want to use ANSI layout
Thanks guys
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 26 April 2017, 22:59:10
Heys guys,
Im new to custom mech. Do i need to download anything after putting all the the parts together? Or just plug in and type?
I want to use ANSI layout
Thanks guys
You should be fine, but if you want to customize the layout check out the post by profnum above, it has pretty much everything you'll need to start customizing.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:02:17
Heys guys,Post #561 by Invisibilti has everything you need. He put together a word doc outlining everything you need.
Im new to custom mech. Do i need to download anything after putting all the the parts together? Or just plug in and type?
I want to use ANSI layout
Thanks guys
Here's a direct link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:32:32
Heys guys,Post #561 by Invisibilti has everything you need. He put together a word doc outlining everything you need.
Im new to custom mech. Do i need to download anything after putting all the the parts together? Or just plug in and type?
I want to use ANSI layout
Thanks guys
Here's a direct link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Thank you so much guys, I also need to download Atmel Flip right?
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:40:26
Yes, you need to download Amtel.Heys guys,Post #561 by Invisibilti has everything you need. He put together a word doc outlining everything you need.
Im new to custom mech. Do i need to download anything after putting all the the parts together? Or just plug in and type?
I want to use ANSI layout
Thanks guys
Here's a direct link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Thank you so much guys, I also need to download Atmel Flip right?
There is also a .HTML file in the Dropbox download that you can reference. It contains Korean instructions that you can translate via Google translate in Chrome. This will cover most, if not all of your needs.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 26 April 2017, 23:43:22
Heys guys,Post #561 by Invisibilti has everything you need. He put together a word doc outlining everything you need.
Im new to custom mech. Do i need to download anything after putting all the the parts together? Or just plug in and type?
I want to use ANSI layout
Thanks guys
Here's a direct link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit?usp=sharing
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Thank you so much guys, I also need to download Atmel Flip right?
Yep, depending on the OS you're using right now. I personally made the hex file on a vmware Windows, and flashed the keyboard using a Mac via dfu-programmer. I've heard that Flip works the best for pure Windows users though. Also try out the default layout before you flash, you might like it.
PS: Use the 1.10 version instead of the 1.8 version of O2D on Duck's site, and make sure you select Duck Viper/Eagle V2.0 in the program. That was the issue that tripped me up badly.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 27 April 2017, 19:15:43
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 27 April 2017, 19:32:36
Got the diffuser materials. It's a bit more translucent than stock but handles light transmission/diffusion a bit better - shouldn't be any color distortion. Going to get them made tomorrow! :thumb:
Thanks for the update man!
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 28 April 2017, 00:48:08
Post by: tuba section on Fri, 28 April 2017, 10:32:56
The first is in re: to the RGB PCB LEDs. I have the controls programmed into the fn layer and they seem to be working. What I can't seem to find is a way to have the LEDs be a single color that doesn't fade or do anything at all on key press. I would love for the PCB LEDs to just be a single static color. Does anyone have any tips for this?
Second, my indicator LEDs are not functioning. They appear to be fine but they will not light up at all. Haven't had issues with the indicators with any other Duck board. Any tips? Am I missing something stupid?
Thanks
Post by: profanum429 on Fri, 28 April 2017, 10:54:36
Hey, just got my Viper built and programmed, running into a couple small issues that I can't seem to find the answers for anywhere.
The first is in re: to the RGB PCB LEDs. I have the controls programmed into the fn layer and they seem to be working. What I can't seem to find is a way to have the LEDs be a single color that doesn't fade or do anything at all on key press. I would love for the PCB LEDs to just be a single static color. Does anyone have any tips for this?
Second, my indicator LEDs are not functioning. They appear to be fine but they will not light up at all. Haven't had issues with the indicators with any other Duck board. Any tips? Am I missing something stupid?
Thanks
Edit: Hmm, I'll need to go back and double check mine...
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 28 April 2017, 11:06:29
Hey, just got my Viper built and programmed, running into a couple small issues that I can't seem to find the answers for anywhere.
The first is in re: to the RGB PCB LEDs. I have the controls programmed into the fn layer and they seem to be working. What I can't seem to find is a way to have the LEDs be a single color that doesn't fade or do anything at all on key press. I would love for the PCB LEDs to just be a single static color. Does anyone have any tips for this?
Second, my indicator LEDs are not functioning. They appear to be fine but they will not light up at all. Haven't had issues with the indicators with any other Duck board. Any tips? Am I missing something stupid?
Thanks
For the RBG PCB LED's, FWIW there is no static color that doesn't have some sort of effect. In order to get it a uniform color without a fade/effect, you would need to open up O2D and set all values in the RGB editor to the same value.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:20:17
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-28-2017/mZGIvB.gif)
Finally. Such a small project but it took forever! Sorry about the timing folks. So I've spoken to smittysteve and he's going to start mailing off invoices in the next day or two. Once everyone has paid I'll post tracking details via a spreadsheet. I think a week long deadline should be fine for such a small amount right? I really need to handle the shipment in one swoop if possible... Also, the new material is more "clear" than the original but fear not, the edge looks almost identical (the only part you see) and it handles light better by a minute amount! I'm very happy with how they finally turned out.
Pricing:
USA: $10 shipped w/ tracking + $5 for each additional diffuser
International: $18 shipped + $5 for each additional diffuser
**International tracking won't exist outside of the USA, it's too expensive for such a small item. After it clears customs you will be on your own.
Pics (for those who requested them):
Please let me know if you guys have any questions/concerns. Hopefully this time next week these will be on their way!
Pricing:
USA: $10 shipped w/ tracking + $5 for each additional diffuser
International: $18 shipped + $5 for each additional diffuser
**International tracking won't exist outside of the USA, it's too expensive for such a small item. After it clears customs you will be on your own.
Pics (for those who requested them):
More
(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/N7lGnyz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GgGlb7e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jyuYDct.jpg)
(the white seen here is just masking to prevent burning when cut or shipping damages)
(http://i.imgur.com/N7lGnyz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GgGlb7e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jyuYDct.jpg)
(the white seen here is just masking to prevent burning when cut or shipping damages)
Please let me know if you guys have any questions/concerns. Hopefully this time next week these will be on their way!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:21:22
Show Image(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-28-2017/mZGIvB.gif)Finally. Such a small project but it took forever! Sorry about the timing folks. So I've spoken to smittysteve and he's going to start mailing off invoices in the next day or two. Once everyone has paid I'll post tracking details via a spreadsheet. I think a week long deadline should be fine for such a small amount right? I really need to handle the shipment in one swoop if possible... Also, the new material is more "clear" than the original but fear not, the edge looks almost identical (the only part you see) and it handles light better by a minute amount! I'm very happy with how they finally turned out.
Pricing:
USA: $10 shipped w/ tracking + $5 for each additional diffuser
International: $18 shipped + $5 for each additional diffuser
**International tracking won't exist outside of the USA, it's too expensive for such a small item. After it clears customs you will be on your own.
Pics (for those who requested them):MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/N7lGnyz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GgGlb7e.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jyuYDct.jpg)
(the white seen here is just masking to prevent burning when cut or shipping damages)
Please let me know if you guys have any questions/concerns. Hopefully this time next week these will be on their way!
Good job sir.
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:25:39
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:35:33
Show Image(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-28-2017/mZGIvB.gif)Finally. Such a small project but it took forever! Sorry about the timing folks. So I've spoken to smittysteve and he's going to start mailing off invoices in the next day or two. Once everyone has paid I'll post tracking details via a spreadsheet. I think a week long deadline should be fine for such a small amount right? I really need to handle the shipment in one swoop if possible... Also, the new material is more "clear" than the original but fear not, the edge looks almost identical (the only part you see) and it handles light better by a minute amount! I'm very happy with how they finally turned out.
Pricing:
USA: $10 shipped w/ tracking + $5 for each additional diffuser
International: $18 shipped + $5 for each additional diffuser
**International tracking won't exist outside of the USA, it's too expensive for such a small item. After it clears customs you will be on your own.
Pics (for those who requested them):MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/N7lGnyz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GgGlb7e.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qb7Boho.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jyuYDct.jpg)
(the white seen here is just masking to prevent burning when cut or shipping damages)
Please let me know if you guys have any questions/concerns. Hopefully this time next week these will be on their way!
Finally, Thanks for doing this GB man, hope you guys will send out all the invoices by this weekend
BTW, will you guys make another zeal stabs compatible diffuser GB for Duck Lightsaver that's coming up?
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:41:10
Post by: smittysteve on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:46:17
I'll have all invoices out this weekend. Won't start tonight though because we have a rare sitter and are going out! Payment will be due by late next week (Thurs, maybe?) so omb can ship Friday? That seems a solid timeline to me...
Have a good weekend, all.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 28 April 2017, 18:47:37
Finally, Thanks for doing this GB man, hope you guys will send out all the invoices by this weekend
BTW, will you guys make another zeal stabs compatible diffuser GB for Duck Lightsaver that's coming up?
Just a heads up, my Zeal stabs work fine on my Blackbird. So it may be that compatibility will vary from Duck board to Duck board.
Post by: tuba section on Fri, 28 April 2017, 20:48:04
Hey, just got my Viper built and programmed, running into a couple small issues that I can't seem to find the answers for anywhere.
The first is in re: to the RGB PCB LEDs. I have the controls programmed into the fn layer and they seem to be working. What I can't seem to find is a way to have the LEDs be a single color that doesn't fade or do anything at all on key press. I would love for the PCB LEDs to just be a single static color. Does anyone have any tips for this?
Second, my indicator LEDs are not functioning. They appear to be fine but they will not light up at all. Haven't had issues with the indicators with any other Duck board. Any tips? Am I missing something stupid?
Thanks
For the RBG PCB LED's, FWIW there is no static color that doesn't have some sort of effect. In order to get it a uniform color without a fade/effect, you would need to open up O2D and set all values in the RGB editor to the same value.
Awesome, thanks for the help. I will try that when I get home
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 28 April 2017, 21:26:57
A heads up that my default defusers work on my Viper with Zeal stabs, but it might be that the defusers I got are slightly thinner.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sat, 29 April 2017, 15:02:52
"Thank you my friend
I did not know about screw stab
I will apply LS v3
Huge thank you very much"
Awesome! Told you he was cool.
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 29 April 2017, 20:12:06
(http://i.imgur.com/YwqzxSO.jpg)
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 29 April 2017, 21:51:50
Picked up my Eagles brother in a trade a while back. Upon arrival, there was some cosmetic damage on the exterior of the top case due to bad shipping practices. It was refinished at the shippers expense and I chose to go with a finer bead blast @ 120grit and a clear anodize. The end result is a finer matte finish opposed to the shiny silver :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YwqzxSO.jpg)
Wow, that's an amazing remake! How much the refinishing costed, and where did you get it? Thanks again! It would be amazing to know there's a way to save it should anything bad happens.
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 29 April 2017, 22:12:45
Picked up my Eagles brother in a trade a while back. Upon arrival, there was some cosmetic damage on the exterior of the top case due to bad shipping practices. It was refinished at the shippers expense and I chose to go with a finer bead blast @ 120grit and a clear anodize. The end result is a finer matte finish opposed to the shiny silver :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YwqzxSO.jpg)
Wow, that's an amazing remake! How much the refinishing costed, and where did you get it? Thanks again! It would be amazing to know there's a way to save it should anything bad happens.
I had the work done at a local shop and it cost me about $90 for strip, bead blast and re-ano.
Post by: johnthedong on Sat, 29 April 2017, 22:15:23
Picked up my Eagles brother in a trade a while back. Upon arrival, there was some cosmetic damage on the exterior of the top case due to bad shipping practices. It was refinished at the shippers expense and I chose to go with a finer bead blast @ 120grit and a clear anodize. The end result is a finer matte finish opposed to the shiny silver :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YwqzxSO.jpg)
Wow, that's an amazing remake! How much the refinishing costed, and where did you get it? Thanks again! It would be amazing to know there's a way to save it should anything bad happens.
I had the work done at a local shop and it cost me about $90 for strip, bead blast and re-ano.
Sounds good, thanks for the headsup!
Post by: xondat on Sun, 30 April 2017, 07:32:42
Picked up my Eagles brother in a trade a while back. Upon arrival, there was some cosmetic damage on the exterior of the top case due to bad shipping practices. It was refinished at the shippers expense and I chose to go with a finer bead blast @ 120grit and a clear anodize. The end result is a finer matte finish opposed to the shiny silver :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YwqzxSO.jpg)
Much nicer finish as apposed to the shiny finishes, great board.
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 30 April 2017, 07:35:26
Picked up my Eagles brother in a trade a while back. Upon arrival, there was some cosmetic damage on the exterior of the top case due to bad shipping practices. It was refinished at the shippers expense and I chose to go with a finer bead blast @ 120grit and a clear anodize. The end result is a finer matte finish opposed to the shiny silver :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YwqzxSO.jpg)
Much nicer finish as apposed to the shiny finishes, great board.
Yeah, I was wondering if I should send one of mine to one of those gun refinishing/anodizing places to reanodize with a type 3 mil spec anodization. Waiting to see how much they quote me lol.
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 30 April 2017, 14:21:38
I havent receive the invoice for diffuser, anyone here had received it?
Post by: poolside on Sun, 30 April 2017, 14:37:45
Patch 2 seem dead :(
I havent receive the invoice for diffuser, anyone here had received it?
I got mine a few hours ago.
Post by: smittysteve on Sun, 30 April 2017, 15:42:37
If there are any errors, please let me know. Should have been $10 for one, $15 for two in the US. Plus $8 for international.
Have a good rest of the weekend!
Post by: profanum429 on Sun, 30 April 2017, 16:03:03
Last question, did you guys manage to get the media keys working in Mac? It kind of works if I mash a few media keys together, but it's not working when I press individual keys. :(
Sorry for the late reply but I was finally able to test this; in Windows they work 100% but in macOS 10.12.5 beta they only work about once a second. If I press volume up with a second delay between each then each one will increment the volume; if I spam volume up then it'll only increase about once a second. Not sure why it does this.
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 30 April 2017, 16:17:47
Last question, did you guys manage to get the media keys working in Mac? It kind of works if I mash a few media keys together, but it's not working when I press individual keys. :(
Sorry for the late reply but I was finally able to test this; in Windows they work 100% but in macOS 10.12.5 beta they only work about once a second. If I press volume up with a second delay between each then each one will increment the volume; if I spam volume up then it'll only increase about once a second. Not sure why it does this.
NP, it's totally not working for me on my Mac atm unless I do the mashing (using Karabiner to bind the F keys work though) :( . I suspect it's something due to my system.
Post by: Mizzazz on Tue, 02 May 2017, 17:07:50
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 03 May 2017, 20:15:28
Post by: elton5354 on Wed, 03 May 2017, 20:48:42
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 03 May 2017, 21:09:12
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 03 May 2017, 22:32:37
They're being packed from what I have been told!!!!!!!
um, is the period between packaging and shipping going to be like the previous batch...
Post by: zzyjayfree on Thu, 04 May 2017, 17:21:59
Patch 2 seem dead :(
I havent receive the invoice for diffuser, anyone here had received it?
May 3, 2017 - Been advised that keyboards are being packed!
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 04 May 2017, 17:48:56
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:46:39
As some have asked, here’s my experience with the Eagle/Viper V2 plates I had made which allow for switch top opening
The Bad
Switch rotation - it will only be a problem for some. When testing the new plates, I've found that there is an issue with switch rotation/misalignment when utilizing plate mounted switches. In my case, I chose to build my Viper with vintage blacks which lacked the PCB mounting posts commonly found on PCB mounted switches. The test fitting resulted in misaligned switches which I found frustrating to say the least.
Not to be defeated, I remedied this issue by installing a set of GMK keycaps on the unsoldered switches and aligning the tops via a straight edge ruler. From there I carefully turned the plate/pcb over and soldered one leg per switch then flipped it over to examine my work. Quite a tedious process but once I figured out the correct method, it was actually rather easy.
I believe the issue was compounded by the fact that Lasergist deburrs the edges in the finishing stage. This resulted in increased tolerances that left a little to be desired in regards to that “snug” fit. Overall, I would say it’s a fair trade off considering the finish that was achieved.
The Good
It works! I don’t think there is much more that I can say other than the fact that the plate does its job and allows for switch top opening. Additionally, if you are utilizing PCB mounted switches, there is little to no switch rotation (tested with NIB PCB mounted Gat Blacks).
I’ve created two plates based on Swills templates which I modified to fit my needs and fit the Eagle/Viper V2. One being a Universal ANSI plate and the other being a HHKB Layout based plate which incorporates isolated cutouts for split backspace, split right shift + fn, and a 1x1.5x7x1.5x1 bottom row.
(http://i.imgur.com/9u3l6Tk.jpg)
Download here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2BotsTwxuB5djNyaXdSWGp0Vmc
Post by: johnthedong on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:52:13
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 12:21:07
If you would like this plate, for free (just cover shipping), drop be a PM and I'll RNG the winner in about 24 hours.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 05 May 2017, 12:49:43
In my case, I chose to build my Viper with vintage blacks which lacked the PCB mounting posts commonly found on PCB mounted switches.
That's true only for WYSE vintage blacks though. I always try to put some PCB mounted switches on the corners and edges of the board just to hold the plate in place, in case the plate is not perfectly flat.
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 12:56:23
In my case, I chose to build my Viper with vintage blacks which lacked the PCB mounting posts commonly found on PCB mounted switches.
That's true only for WYSE vintage blacks though. I always try to put some PCB mounted switches on the corners and edges of the board just to hold the plate in place, in case the plate is not perfectly flat.
I do exactly that and on any stabilized key.
Post by: profanum429 on Fri, 05 May 2017, 13:03:21
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 07 May 2017, 11:57:50
All Payments received! Smittysteve has forwarded the packing list and am currently stuffing bend-proof envelopes with the diffusers as we speak. I'm shooting for them to go out via Priority Mail tomorrow! I'll post up on completion. Thanks to everyone who contributed (looking at you smittysteve)!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 07 May 2017, 15:28:43
Cheers!
D
Post by: johnthedong on Sun, 07 May 2017, 15:37:41
Ok all tracking should be out... If you're an international order you may have gotten two separate tracking numbers from stamps.com - ignore the first one. My printer went a little nutty on me and I had to reprint the labels - hence new tracking. If there's any questions please contact me. I will be contacting a few folks that I need more info from, so keep your eyes peeled.
Cheers!
D
Just checked, didn't get my tracking yet :( I'm invoice 25 with only a frosted diffuser, if that helps. Thanks again for doing this!!
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 07 May 2017, 16:18:39
Ok all tracking should be out... If you're an international order you may have gotten two separate tracking numbers from stamps.com - ignore the first one. My printer went a little nutty on me and I had to reprint the labels - hence new tracking. If there's any questions please contact me. I will be contacting a few folks that I need more info from, so keep your eyes peeled.
Cheers!
D
Same didnt see anything yet, could you double check please
Just checked, didn't get my tracking yet :( I'm invoice 25 with only a frosted diffuser, if that helps. Thanks again for doing this!!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 07 May 2017, 16:55:11
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 07 May 2017, 17:16:51
Just in case anyone else missed their tracking email here's a spreadsheet with everyone's info:
~snip~
**note: they will be physically sent out tomorrow - tracking won't update until then. Thanks!
maybe don't post everyone's tracking info publicly like that
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 07 May 2017, 19:49:07
I deleted it but many group buys I've been a part of publicly leaves tracking numbers, including this one! I didn't think a forum name and tracking number was a big deal. BUT, I don't want to tick anyone off either. So if people need more help, let me know.Just in case anyone else missed their tracking email here's a spreadsheet with everyone's info:
~snip~
**note: they will be physically sent out tomorrow - tracking won't update until then. Thanks!
maybe don't post everyone's tracking info publicly like that
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 07 May 2017, 19:53:16
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:41:10
It's been shipped and tracking will be up soon.
Elton
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:43:58
Hi all,
It's been shipped and tracking will be up soon.
Elton
Yayy, hype
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:44:54
EDIT: All diffusers were shipped out today. Tracking numbers should update in the next 24 hours or so.
Thanks for doing this Steve and Danny. All of your hard work is appreciated!
Post by: Potage on Thu, 11 May 2017, 13:08:39
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 11 May 2017, 14:05:13
Post by: johnthedong on Thu, 11 May 2017, 14:08:27
EDIT: All diffusers were shipped out today. Tracking numbers should update in the next 24 hours or so.
PS: Just got the diffusers, thanks again!!
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 14:47:38
Thanks for doing this Steve and Danny. All of your hard work is appreciated!
No problem Elton - for you, anything... I see a few of you guys have started to receive them - awesome!
On another note... I have some keyboard porn for you guys. Sorry for the phone pics... it's all I have. These are new old stock Nixdorf's (AFAIK the only NOS known and yes, I already sold the other half). I was really lucky and got ahold of the board long ago out of Finland for an incredible price (dude had no idea what he had) and finally cannibalized the switches after about 6 months of indecisiveness. Needless to say they're incredible. I also combined the Nixdorf screw-in-stabs with Zeal's to recreate the "Nixdorf" feel of a clear base with black stem. Although the body of the stab isn't milky-white like a true Nixdorf, I love the way it looks. More pics below (with our new screw-in compatibly diffuser)... I really love this board, it's definitely the nicest one I own! Now I just need Merlin's weight and it will be complete!
p0rn:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ix9PdeO.jpg)
Additional Pics
More
(http://i.imgur.com/go3ZaCe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZrXGAr1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DnWuh5i.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jbRbd87.jpg)
FYI this is the diffuser we made...
(http://i.imgur.com/ZrXGAr1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DnWuh5i.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jbRbd87.jpg)
FYI this is the diffuser we made...
And the whole lot...
Full Imgur Post (http://imgur.com/a/HbEQ6)
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 11 May 2017, 14:58:59
Quick question anyone know how to get a single color to stay on it seems duck built-in lighting modes has every thing but that.. any help would be appreciated.
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Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 11 May 2017, 15:11:46
Diffuser package received thankyou so much!No problem! To answer your question - yes. You have to program in a few options on the function layer: RGB Mode, RGB Sel+ and RGB Sel-. Pretty self explanatory but RGB Mode cycles through the different modes - breathing, color cycling, rainbow, heartbeat, solid etc. Then with RGB Sel+ and RGB Sel- you can switch the colors once in solid mode. RGB Sel+/- kinda do different things for different modes but for solid it cycles through the colors you have preset in O2D.
Quick question anyone know how to get a single color to stay on it seems duck built-in lighting modes has every thing but that.. any help would be appreciated.
Post by: gaiden on Thu, 11 May 2017, 15:19:45
Diffuser package received thankyou so much!No problem! To answer your question - yes. You have to program in a few options on the function layer: RGB Mode, RGB Sel+ and RGB Sel-. Pretty self explanatory but RGB Mode cycles through the different modes - breathing, color cycling, rainbow, heartbeat, solid etc. Then with RGB Sel+ and RGB Sel- you can switch the colors once in solid mode. RGB Sel+/- kinda do different things for different modes but for solid it cycles through the colors you have preset in O2D.
Quick question anyone know how to get a single color to stay on it seems duck built-in lighting modes has every thing but that.. any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for the info! :thumb:
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 15:28:37
The board looks amazing, nice work :thumb:
On another note, I should be receiving my diffuser today which means I can put the Eagle back together. Thanks in advance!
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 16:08:49
Thanks for doing this Steve and Danny. All of your hard work is appreciated!
No problem Elton - for you, anything... I see a few of you guys have started to receive them - awesome!
On another note... I have some keyboard porn for you guys. Sorry for the phone pics... it's all I have. These are new old stock Nixdorf's (AFAIK the only NOS known and yes, I already sold the other half). I was really lucky and got ahold of the board long ago out of Finland for an incredible price (dude had no idea what he had) and finally cannibalized the switches after about 6 months of indecisiveness. Needless to say they're incredible. I also combined the Nixdorf screw-in-stabs with Zeal's to recreate the "Nixdorf" feel of a clear base with black stem. Although the body of the stab isn't milky-white like a true Nixdorf, I love the way it looks. More pics below (with our new screw-in compatibly diffuser)... I really love this board, it's definitely the nicest one I own! Now I just need Merlin's weight and it will be complete!
p0rn:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ix9PdeO.jpg)
Additional PicsMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/go3ZaCe.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZrXGAr1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DnWuh5i.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jbRbd87.jpg)
FYI this is the diffuser we made...
And the whole lot...
Full Imgur Post (http://imgur.com/a/HbEQ6)
Beautiful board Danny!
Post by: anthorix on Fri, 12 May 2017, 02:06:47
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 12 May 2017, 03:13:48
Could anyone summary why the Zeal stabilizer doesn't fit the diffuser? and why only Zeal stabilizer suffers this problem?
Thanks!
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 12 May 2017, 03:42:45
so... I'm still feel puzzled.
Could anyone summary why the Zeal stabilizer doesn't fit the diffuser? and why only Zeal stabilizer suffers this problem?
Thanks!
The diffuser is very close to the PCB, not enough room for the screw head
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 12 May 2017, 04:18:50
so... I'm still feel puzzled.
Could anyone summary why the Zeal stabilizer doesn't fit the diffuser? and why only Zeal stabilizer suffers this problem?
Thanks!
The diffuser is very close to the PCB, not enough room for the screw head
so what about other screw-mounted stabilizer?
Post by: Khers on Fri, 12 May 2017, 06:53:34
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 07:59:07
I'm using Cherry screw in stabs in one of my builds and have no issues with the included diffuser.Same issue most probably, it's just that zeal's stabs are all the hype currently.so... I'm still feel puzzled.
Could anyone summary why the Zeal stabilizer doesn't fit the diffuser? and why only Zeal stabilizer suffers this problem?
Thanks!
The diffuser is very close to the PCB, not enough room for the screw head
so what about other screw-mounted stabilizer?
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 12 May 2017, 09:50:46
I'm using Cherry screw in stabs in one of my builds and have no issues with the included diffuser.Same issue most probably, it's just that zeal's stabs are all the hype currently.so... I'm still feel puzzled.
Could anyone summary why the Zeal stabilizer doesn't fit the diffuser? and why only Zeal stabilizer suffers this problem?
Thanks!
The diffuser is very close to the PCB, not enough room for the screw head
so what about other screw-mounted stabilizer?
That's why I feel puzzled.
I don't have a Zeal screw in stabs so I have no idea what differences there are between Zeal and the Cherry one.
Post by: Potage on Fri, 12 May 2017, 10:14:07
Post by: elton5354 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:25:11
Post by: poolside on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:45:12
I see all tracking numbers are now up!
Thanks! The boards are already up in the air :)
Post by: zzyjayfree on Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:09:10
Post by: regallegion on Fri, 12 May 2017, 15:11:11
I see all tracking numbers are now up!
HYYYYYYPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEE :D
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 13 May 2017, 21:39:01
Thanks for the front diffuser onmybikedrunk & smittysteve :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/RJyMrAQ.jpg)
Post by: brighenne on Sun, 14 May 2017, 00:39:30
x-post
Thanks for the front diffuser onmybikedrunk & smittysteve :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJyMrAQ.jpg)
We are going to have very, very similar vipers :thumb:
Post by: pace8500 on Sun, 14 May 2017, 03:50:42
Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:21:05
I downloaded the O2D keymapper, but it can only program the keys.
Any tutorial or I should change the color of LEDs by desoldering and resoldering?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:26:09
Pick colors and hit apply. Then save .hex and then flash it.
Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:40:59
Tools->RGB color preset.
Pick colors and hit apply. Then save .hex and then flash it.
people are all saying like this, but I don't have the LED choice under `tool`when trying to program my Viper
[attachimg=1]
I download the latest tool 02D_KeyMapper_Custom_v1.8.622 from http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/%E2%98%85Firmware%20Program
or am I using a wrong tool?
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:43:53
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Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:50:23
Try using 1.10
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Thanks!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 14 May 2017, 14:02:53
(http://puu.sh/vPXcH/d3a584c331.png)
Post by: HappyCatFish on Sun, 14 May 2017, 14:13:31
Also make sure you pick the correct firmware:Show Image(http://puu.sh/vPXcH/d3a584c331.png)
Unfortunately my client only shows a Viper/Eagle v1. Can you link to a download for the V2 firmware?
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 14 May 2017, 14:16:51
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Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 15 May 2017, 10:45:23
Still considering about soldering and sockets.
Very hard decision :confused:
Post by: ipreferpie on Mon, 15 May 2017, 11:27:57
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 15 May 2017, 11:31:21
Unfortunately I'm shorting my keyboard with some of the Zeal stabs. I identified the two offenders and tried masking the area with tape, but it's still happening. Does anyone have tips or photos how they overcame this? Also, is anyone interested in trading a Viper SS plate for my aluminum one?
I've had good luck using some tiny fiber washers I found at home depot. They are thin enough for the screw to thread through and I've had no issues at all with shorting now on 3 or 4 boards I've used them on. I just picked up four more packs this weekend actually and now sort of use them anywhere I think there may be an issue. I can send you a PM with the exact part number I'm using tonight if you'd like. :thumb:
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 15 May 2017, 11:32:40
Unfortunately I'm shorting my keyboard with some of the Zeal stabs. I identified the two offenders and tried masking the area with tape, but it's still happening. Does anyone have tips or photos how they overcame this? Also, is anyone interested in trading a Viper SS plate for my aluminum one?
Zeal recommended using pieces of plastic baggies.
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 15 May 2017, 11:32:56
Post by: ipreferpie on Mon, 15 May 2017, 11:46:33
Post by: johnthedong on Mon, 15 May 2017, 11:58:15
Unfortunately I'm shorting my keyboard with some of the Zeal stabs. I identified the two offenders and tried masking the area with tape, but it's still happening. Does anyone have tips or photos how they overcame this? Also, is anyone interested in trading a Viper SS plate for my aluminum one?
Zeal recommended using pieces of plastic baggies.
I personally used some clear tape with a hole punched in the middle to allow the screws to go through. ;D
Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 15 May 2017, 22:34:31
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Mon, 15 May 2017, 22:42:52
(http://i.imgur.com/tc3xQ9a.jpg)
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 16 May 2017, 00:44:17
From Duck's website (Black Bird)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tc3xQ9a.jpg)
whelp, I gotta try that now. Good thing I have an extra plate.
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 16 May 2017, 04:29:33
From Duck's website (Black Bird)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tc3xQ9a.jpg)
led-friendly
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 16 May 2017, 04:32:41
Also, the PCB/Plate are fixed on the top case. So there are some space between the PCB and the bottom housing.
So I'm wondering if there is any weight-insert or adds-on for the viper since it seems that some space are reserved?
Post by: zacheadams on Tue, 16 May 2017, 07:07:36
I found there are several screw holes in the center of bottom housing that are not used when assembling.
Also, the PCB/Plate are fixed on the top case. So there are some space between the PCB and the bottom housing.
So I'm wondering if there is any weight-insert or adds-on for the viper since it seems that some space are reserved?
Merlin has said he is making a weight, yes.
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 16 May 2017, 08:12:31
I found there are several screw holes in the center of bottom housing that are not used when assembling.
Also, the PCB/Plate are fixed on the top case. So there are some space between the PCB and the bottom housing.
So I'm wondering if there is any weight-insert or adds-on for the viper since it seems that some space are reserved?
Merlin has said he is making a weight, yes.
wow~ cool
Thanks for your info!
Post by: HappyCatFish on Tue, 16 May 2017, 11:38:38
Post by: poolside on Tue, 16 May 2017, 14:05:42
EDIT: All diffusers were shipped out today. Tracking numbers should update in the next 24 hours or so.
I got my (nicely packed) diffuser today. I should probably have ordered another one.
Thank you onmybikedrunk and smittysteve :thumb:
Waiting for Merlin's weight GB now... ;D
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 16 May 2017, 14:32:04
I'm assuming they're capslock, scoll lock, and numlock but what are the others?
Also, am I correct in guessing that the flat side of the blob on the PCB denotes the negative leg of the LED?
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 16 May 2017, 14:48:51
Does anyone know what each LED embedded into the top case corresponds to?
I'm assuming they're capslock, scoll lock, and numlock but what are the others?
Also, am I correct in guessing that the flat side of the blob on the PCB denotes the negative leg of the LED?
1-4 or the right are layer indicators. The last one is CTRL mode, I think...
Post by: anthorix on Tue, 16 May 2017, 15:29:11
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 16 May 2017, 19:01:18
Post by: gaiden on Tue, 16 May 2017, 19:56:56
Anyone here making switch top removal plates (the one aaron sent?). I'm gonna have one made by big blue saw and was wondering if anyone was already doing it and I could pitch in for cheaper prices or...I could do it.What is the quoted price for that? I'm more interested in a brass plate if that's an option.
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Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 16 May 2017, 20:03:01
If I up it to 5 units it will be roughly $59 + shipping per person. Except me of course =P.
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 16 May 2017, 21:12:11
A single plate with basic finishing shipped to Seattle, WA will cost me $122.31. It will be cheaper via lasergist, but they are way too slow and I'm excited, and I emailed lasergist a few days ago and still haven't received a reply.
If I up it to 5 units it will be roughly $59 + shipping per person. Except me of course =P.
I would like to join too if others join to reduce the price a little
If i live is washington, can i just come over to pick it up to avoid shipping :p
P/s we are waiting for you to open a GB for brass weight inserts
Post by: laughatpain on Tue, 16 May 2017, 21:25:45
Post by: inosint on Tue, 16 May 2017, 22:15:57
I too would be interested in a brass plateAnyone here making switch top removal plates (the one aaron sent?). I'm gonna have one made by big blue saw and was wondering if anyone was already doing it and I could pitch in for cheaper prices or...I could do it.What is the quoted price for that? I'm more interested in a brass plate if that's an option.
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Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 16 May 2017, 22:45:08
And that's 3 people so far...and maybe a 4th if Gaiden is in. So looking for 1-2 more people
If you live in WA, we can just go meet up or something.
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 17 May 2017, 00:05:40
Ok, so BBS doesn't have a brass option.
And that's 3 people so far...and maybe a 4th if Gaiden is in. So looking for 1-2 more people
If you live in WA, we can just go meet up or something.
Nooo :( we like brass plate, should we pick another shop?
Post by: gaiden on Wed, 17 May 2017, 01:44:04
Ok, so BBS doesn't have a brass option.Dang no brass.. I can't do it sry Merlin
And that's 3 people so far...and maybe a 4th if Gaiden is in. So looking for 1-2 more people
If you live in WA, we can just go meet up or something.
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Post by: techfresh on Wed, 17 May 2017, 02:09:51
Ok, so BBS doesn't have a brass option.
And that's 3 people so far...and maybe a 4th if Gaiden is in. So looking for 1-2 more people
If you live in WA, we can just go meet up or something.
I am in for 2 plates. And 2 brass inserts if/when you do that too.
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 17 May 2017, 02:35:27
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 02:50:12
y is 02D programmer missing alot of keys, I want to make it exactly like an HHKB but its missing the backslash and tilde
Backslash/tilde are there. This is how my Black Bird with HHKB backspace and shift looks like:
(http://puu.sh/vSCaT/71cc8a5104.png)
Just choose the correct location from the fullsize image under it and it should work.
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 17 May 2017, 04:42:58
y is 02D programmer missing alot of keys, I want to make it exactly like an HHKB but its missing the backslash and tilde
Backslash/tilde are there. This is how my Black Bird with HHKB backspace and shift looks like:Show Image(http://puu.sh/vSCaT/71cc8a5104.png)
Just choose the correct location from the fullsize image under it and it should work.
thanks, i'm starting to figure out how to use this darned thing. now i'm having trouble applying keys to the right alt and right gui. they only come up as , on the integrated key tester
Post by: ipreferpie on Wed, 17 May 2017, 05:03:33
Ok, so BBS doesn't have a brass option.I'm down for a brass plate and weight as well
And that's 3 people so far...and maybe a 4th if Gaiden is in. So looking for 1-2 more people
If you live in WA, we can just go meet up or something.
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 09:36:39
Weights are still in the future so don't PM me asking to put you on for that yet.
Plates are SS only and for the Eagle.
PM Away.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 10:06:37
Plates are SS only and for the Eagle.
Unless the files you're utilizing have been altered, the plates should work with both the Viper and Eagle as the mounting points are the same. The limitations/configurations of each file are listed below.
PlateOutline.ai
-Will fit Viper or Eagle
-NO ISO
-Split BS or standard
-Split right shift + Fn or long right shift
-Left or centered Caps
-Bottom row support: 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 6.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 1.25 or 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5
PlateOutline-HHKB.ai
-Will fit Viper or Eagle
-NO ISO
-Split BS only
-Split right shift + Fn only
-Left or centered Caps
-Bottom row support: 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5 only
Both my Viper and Eagle are using the PlateOutline-HHKB.ai plates.
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 10:19:04
I'm only doing the non HHKB btw.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 10:25:33
And there you guys have it! Thanks Aaron! Would you mind reposting the link..I've had a couple people ask me for it already.
I'm only doing the non HHKB btw.
Sure, here you go:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2BotsTwxuB5djNyaXdSWGp0Vmc
Post by: Gatix on Wed, 17 May 2017, 10:38:07
Post by: sairex on Wed, 17 May 2017, 14:25:20
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:11:06
On my shipping status said Deliver attempted is that means out for delivery or its been delivered but no one at home to take it?
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:14:33
Hi guys, i've never track with EMS before, so will they deliver to our front door by usps? or we need to come to their office to pick it up? is it require signature?
On my shipping status said Deliver attempted is that means out for delivery or its been delivered but no one at home to take it?
Will be via USPS and you'll need someone to sign.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:16:58
Hi guys, i've never track with EMS before, so will they deliver to our front door by usps? or we need to come to their office to pick it up? is it require signature?
On my shipping status said Deliver attempted is that means out for delivery or its been delivered but no one at home to take it?
Will be via USPS and you'll need someone to sign.
As you stated that delivery was attempted, you will need to take that pink slip with you to the USPS PO and retrieve your item there.
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:20:24
I didnt see any pink slip at my front door :(Hi guys, i've never track with EMS before, so will they deliver to our front door by usps? or we need to come to their office to pick it up? is it require signature?
On my shipping status said Deliver attempted is that means out for delivery or its been delivered but no one at home to take it?
Will be via USPS and you'll need someone to sign.
As you stated that delivery was attempted, you will need to take that pink slip with you to the USPS PO and retrieve your item there.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:24:54
I didnt see any pink slip at my front door :(Hi guys, i've never track with EMS before, so will they deliver to our front door by usps? or we need to come to their office to pick it up? is it require signature?
On my shipping status said Deliver attempted is that means out for delivery or its been delivered but no one at home to take it?
Will be via USPS and you'll need someone to sign.
As you stated that delivery was attempted, you will need to take that pink slip with you to the USPS PO and retrieve your item there.
Check your mailbox. From my experience, sometimes they stick it on my front door or place it in the mailbox.
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 17 May 2017, 15:28:10
I didnt see any pink slip at my front door :(Hi guys, i've never track with EMS before, so will they deliver to our front door by usps? or we need to come to their office to pick it up? is it require signature?
On my shipping status said Deliver attempted is that means out for delivery or its been delivered but no one at home to take it?
Will be via USPS and you'll need someone to sign.
As you stated that delivery was attempted, you will need to take that pink slip with you to the USPS PO and retrieve your item there.
Check your mailbox. From my experience, sometimes they stick it on my front door or place it in the mailbox.
Thanks, i found it, its in the mail box :-* going to usps office to pick it up
Post by: poolside on Wed, 17 May 2017, 17:08:23
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 17 May 2017, 18:33:40
(http://i.imgur.com/ndYxjF6.jpg)
Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 17 May 2017, 23:33:27
Finished my build.
The grey version! :p :p :p
Post by: inosint on Thu, 18 May 2017, 13:43:50
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:05:05
Post by: zacheadams on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:08:03
Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
Super seconded. I'm hoping to use holtites on this board.
Post by: Mizzazz on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:09:03
Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
Stop using your fingers! :p
A soldering iron does the job fine, or if you don't have one then use something thin enough to push it in. I used a small screwdriver to push them in and a soldering iron to heat them a little and hold them better.
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Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:18:05
Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
Super seconded. I'm hoping to use holtites on this board.
Search... Literally was the first hit on YouTube.
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:19:36
For my pcb, it requires a lot of force for the holtites to go all the way down and stick into the pcb (not sure if that's normal?) I did use a thin metal stick to put on top of the holtites and use my thumb to push it doww, thats why it hurts so much :(Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
Stop using your fingers! :p
A soldering iron does the job fine, or if you don't have one then use something thin enough to push it in. I used a small screwdriver to push them in and a soldering iron to heat them a little and hold them better.
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Also, there is 1 switch hold that got cut through for different layout, you only can able to insert 1 holtite on the right side.... located at enter's switch. Not sure if 1 holtite is able to hold the switch from coming out of the pcb while changing keycaps
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:28:09
Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
http://winkeyless.kr/product/holtite/
Scroll down to the How to Install part, some pics are not showing but you can click on the little points below the descriptions, they will open the pictures in a new tab.
This might be help.
Edit: Pics are working now, Just need a little time to load.
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 18 May 2017, 14:32:13
Post by: zacheadams on Thu, 18 May 2017, 20:24:40
Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(Anyone has a link for how to install holtites? pushing the holtites down into pcb is too painful because the hole is too tight, cant even feel my fingers anymore :'(
Super seconded. I'm hoping to use holtites on this board.
Search... Literally was the first hit on YouTube.
In some capacity, I was trying to get a more specific guide for this PCB.
I have heard that the backspace doesn't necessarily install but I can't figure out why from a Google search. I don't have the holtites yet, I'm trying to ask so I don't tinker before having complete information on a very expensive board :/
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 18 May 2017, 22:38:49
You don't want to keep the heat on them for too long so it took me a few passes per switch.
First pass you just want to get the collar about halfway into the pcb. Second pass is the attempt get them sitting flush.
For me, the third pass was just touching everything was perfect.
I lifted a few pads on the macros before figuring this out.
Post by: Potage on Fri, 19 May 2017, 12:23:50
(http://reho.st/medium/self/01254b7e4b0e01d23f6156fad87cdd8083282e80.jpg)
Post by: anthorix on Fri, 19 May 2017, 17:00:04
(http://i.imgur.com/0sq69eR.jpg?1)
Post by: Sneaky Potato on Fri, 19 May 2017, 17:52:34
found a use for those leftover sticker pieces. Dampen the clipped stablizers as they hit the pcb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0sq69eR.jpg?1)
I like this.
Post by: dubious on Fri, 19 May 2017, 18:15:50
found a use for those leftover sticker pieces. Dampen the clipped stablizers as they hit the pcb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0sq69eR.jpg?1)
that's a good idea! How do they compare with bandaids/cosmetic tape?
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 19 May 2017, 20:21:40
found a use for those leftover sticker pieces. Dampen the clipped stablizers as they hit the pcb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0sq69eR.jpg?1)
that's a good idea! How do they compare with bandaids/cosmetic tape?
I want to know this as well. I've done bandaid mod with my other builds and I still have the leftovers from the stickers.
Post by: anthorix on Fri, 19 May 2017, 22:47:39
Post by: yookwh on Sat, 20 May 2017, 19:01:37
Post by: ViệtNV on Sun, 21 May 2017, 03:36:15
Completed in yesterday :D
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Post by: anthorix on Sun, 21 May 2017, 22:55:04
mmm that sticker :thumb:
Post by: wodan on Mon, 22 May 2017, 00:02:05
https://m.imgur.com/a/B0FRA (https://m.imgur.com/a/B0FRA)
Will be live-streaming the build of both Ducks on YouTube soon:
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCOfwAlVn0JxymLljlDnOODQ (https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCOfwAlVn0JxymLljlDnOODQ)
Post by: donjoan666 on Mon, 22 May 2017, 15:47:20
They are already heavy enough?... it doesn't move at all when typed?..
Post by: gaiden on Mon, 22 May 2017, 18:35:57
Just have a short question. Why do we need to put weight on Viper/Eagle?Here's a short answer: Super size me. We must do it because we can. Wallets must be emptied. It's a vanity plate for your luxury Keeb 🙂
They are already heavy enough?... it doesn't move at all when typed?..
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Post by: Sneaky Potato on Mon, 22 May 2017, 18:45:15
Just have a short question. Why do we need to put weight on Viper/Eagle?
They are already heavy enough?... it doesn't move at all when typed?..
It's to weed out the weak from the strong.
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 22 May 2017, 19:27:12
Post by: yookwh on Mon, 22 May 2017, 19:46:20
Post by: wodan on Tue, 23 May 2017, 01:20:14
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 23 May 2017, 01:28:58
Built my Duck Viper V2 last night, here's the stream in case anyone is intereste:wow the board sounds so good. thanks for the vid.
Post by: donjoan666 on Tue, 23 May 2017, 02:44:07
Just have a short question. Why do we need to put weight on Viper/Eagle?Here's a short answer: Super size me. We must do it because we can. Wallets must be emptied. It's a vanity plate for your luxury Keeb 🙂
They are already heavy enough?... it doesn't move at all when typed?..
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I like vanity. I'm in.
Post by: donjoan666 on Tue, 23 May 2017, 02:44:50
Just have a short question. Why do we need to put weight on Viper/Eagle?
They are already heavy enough?... it doesn't move at all when typed?..
It's to weed out the weak from the strong.
Well described. I'm in.
Post by: zacheadams on Tue, 23 May 2017, 13:45:35
Post by: inosint on Tue, 23 May 2017, 15:44:30
Does anyone happen to have the proper dimensions for this plate? They don't seem included in the aiAnd there you guys have it! Thanks Aaron! Would you mind reposting the link..I've had a couple people ask me for it already.
I'm only doing the non HHKB btw.
Sure, here you go:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2BotsTwxuB5djNyaXdSWGp0Vmc
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 23 May 2017, 18:35:12
Does anyone happen to have the proper dimensions for this plate? They don't seem included in the aiAnd there you guys have it! Thanks Aaron! Would you mind reposting the link..I've had a couple people ask me for it already.
I'm only doing the non HHKB btw.
Sure, here you go:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2BotsTwxuB5djNyaXdSWGp0Vmc
What dimensions do you need and for which file?
Post by: inosint on Tue, 23 May 2017, 19:08:12
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 23 May 2017, 20:07:41
Was looking for dimensions specific to the PlateOutline-HHKB.ai file. A dxf file including dimensions was requested, so just looking for measurements.
Here's the info that Lasergist requested, let me know if you need anything other than what is listed.
Plate Thickness: 1.5 mm
Height: 103.9mm
Width: 285.75mm
Path Length(total): 4887.588mm
Additionally, I asked them to verify that the plate measures 11.25″ by 4.0906″.
Post by: inosint on Wed, 24 May 2017, 14:09:56
Was looking for dimensions specific to the PlateOutline-HHKB.ai file. A dxf file including dimensions was requested, so just looking for measurements.
Here's the info that Lasergist requested, let me know if you need anything other than what is listed.
Plate Thickness: 1.5 mm
Height: 103.9mm
Width: 285.75mm
Path Length(total): 4887.588mm
Additionally, I asked them to verify that the plate measures 11.25″ by 4.0906″.
Excellent, that should be more than sufficient. Thanks again!
Post by: Grimspoon on Wed, 24 May 2017, 21:42:33
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 24 May 2017, 22:01:29
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Thu, 25 May 2017, 00:17:37
Any Zeal compatible diffusers available for sale?I have two left, PM me your PayPal. **They're on hold until all orders are received but you're first up if all goes well**
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:20:41
(http://i.imgur.com/tSKdcAD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ILPMDJm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XS5qLz2.jpg)
Post by: Grimspoon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 14:37:03
Any Zeal compatible diffusers available for sale?I have two left, PM me your PayPal. **They're on hold until all orders are received but you're first up if all goes well**
PM Incoming, thanks for looking out. Much appreciated!!!
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 25 May 2017, 15:11:09
I was going to try buying some Vintage Blacks for a different keyboard but that thought made me hesitate. I know I'm probably worrying for nothing though, but I thought I'd ask since some of you have used them in these Viper 2's!
On a side note: If you want a good home for your Viper V2, let me know! :(
Post by: HappyCatFish on Thu, 25 May 2017, 19:24:46
Silly question for those who have used plate mount switches - Do you ever get a bit paranoid that it could possibly damage the PCB someday, since it's floating and only sustained by solder joints?
I was going to try buying some Vintage Blacks for a different keyboard but that thought made me hesitate. I know I'm probably worrying for nothing though, but I thought I'd ask since some of you have used them in these Viper 2's!
On a side note: If you want a good home for your Viper V2, let me know! :(
I use plate mounted switches for everything but the stabilized keys (and sometimes other mods on compatibility plates) and have never had an issue. I hate installing PCB mount switches as they are a pain to get seated properly and uniformly and I always worry about accidentally breaking or bending the plate or PCB.
I would go for it!
Post by: WarCommand on Fri, 26 May 2017, 11:45:28
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 26 May 2017, 12:13:24
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Post by: WarCommand on Fri, 26 May 2017, 12:19:58
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 26 May 2017, 15:27:16
anyone know what the screw size is on the bottom holes?
They should be M3 threaded counter sunk screws for the front of the case. The back are hex socket screws.
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:25:29
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 27 May 2017, 16:29:47
Guys, any info about the brass weight inserts? really wanna get one right now :(
Nothing from Merlin as he still working on other buys AFAIK.
Post by: zacheadams on Sun, 28 May 2017, 08:11:13
Guys, any info about the brass weight inserts? really wanna get one right now :(
Given how long it's taking in the BlackBird weight buy, it's going to be a loooooong time to get this (that prior buy needs to end before this one begins), so you might want to cut your hype for a while :(
Post by: mtzgr on Sun, 28 May 2017, 09:16:06
Guys, any info about the brass weight inserts? really wanna get one right now :(
Given how long it's taking in the BlackBird weight buy, it's going to be a loooooong time to get this (that prior buy needs to end before this one begins), so you might want to cut your hype for a while :(
Thinking of changing the supplier to cut down on the time?
Post by: heroinbob on Sun, 28 May 2017, 23:06:52
Thank you,
Paul
Post by: zacheadams on Mon, 29 May 2017, 07:43:39
Guys, any info about the brass weight inserts? really wanna get one right now :(
Given how long it's taking in the BlackBird weight buy, it's going to be a loooooong time to get this (that prior buy needs to end before this one begins), so you might want to cut your hype for a while :(
Thinking of changing the supplier to cut down on the time?
He is, per that thread, but that still requires the current GB to end.
Post by: Grimspoon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:53:59
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 01 June 2017, 17:11:20
Did many people purchase extra PCBs? Are there any available? I may have killed my board and will possibly need a replacement.
Same, almost killed my board while desoldering, my pcb is ****ed up now but still able to work, not sure if i need to replace it in the future
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 01 June 2017, 19:26:59
Did many people purchase extra PCBs? Are there any available? I may have killed my board and will possibly need a replacement.
I purchased an extra plate and PCB to be safe. You should contact elton to ask but I would assume no.
Did many people purchase extra PCBs? Are there any available? I may have killed my board and will possibly need a replacement.
Same, almost killed my board while desoldering, my pcb is ****ed up now but still able to work, not sure if i need to replace it in the future
This is why you purchase an extra to be safe.
Post by: Grimspoon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 21:01:25
Luckily my board is functional but it's lighting is messed up due to a unfortunate short. If I can't find a new PCB I may just see if anyone is interested in a spare case. Hate to see this thing go to waste.
Just exploring options at the moment. Would also entertain anyone who might be able to repair the PCB.
Post by: retrochick on Thu, 01 June 2017, 21:49:29
Got my kit new but second hand, I'd have bought a spare if I had been in the group buy.
Luckily my board is functional but it's lighting is messed up due to a unfortunate short. If I can't find a new PCB I may just see if anyone is interested in a spare case. Hate to see this thing go to waste.
Just exploring options at the moment. Would also entertain anyone who might be able to repair the PCB.
I'd be interested in a spare case. I'd also be curious to see where the short is in the PCB itself. Maybe it's an easy fix.
Post by: Grimspoon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 22:31:26
I'm trying to figure out if theres a hard reset to default on the keyboard as opposed to booting into flash mode for firmware. I can load firmware just fine but i'd like to see how the board behaves when it's back to default, if that's even possible.
As it stands the board is fine as far as typing goes but I think the rgb is a just wrecked.
Post by: zoomwalt on Thu, 01 June 2017, 22:57:03
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 01 June 2017, 23:30:06
Excuse my ignorance, but how difficult is it to have a new PCB manufactured?
If you've already got the PCB schematics, all you have to do is plug it into a PCB manufacturer's website and they'll make it for you
If you don't have the files, you'll have to reverse engineer it. Which may take a while depending on how much PCB design you know
Post by: zoomwalt on Thu, 01 June 2017, 23:33:15
Excuse my ignorance, but how difficult is it to have a new PCB manufactured?
If you've already got the PCB schematics, all you have to do is plug it into a PCB manufacturer's website and they'll make it for you
If you don't have the files, you'll have to reverse engineer it. Which may take a while depending on how much PCB design you know
Interesting. PS I'm from 714 too.
Is Duck cool with sharing PCB files?
Post by: Will_26 on Fri, 02 June 2017, 05:20:13
Also got it programmed last night, can anyone tell me which are the selections I need in the firmware to add hotkeys for LED colour change? I see the LED options, just not sure which one sets the colour.
Cheers! :)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 02 June 2017, 12:48:55
Just got a Viper this week :) Love it! I may have missed it, but just wondered if there are any plans for a weight insert?
Also got it programmed last night, can anyone tell me which are the selections I need in the firmware to add hotkeys for LED colour change? I see the LED options, just not sure which one sets the colour.
Cheers! :)
A weight is planned, as far as I know.
Excuse my ignorance, but how difficult is it to have a new PCB manufactured?
If you've already got the PCB schematics, all you have to do is plug it into a PCB manufacturer's website and they'll make it for you
If you don't have the files, you'll have to reverse engineer it. Which may take a while depending on how much PCB design you know
Interesting. PS I'm from 714 too.
Is Duck cool with sharing PCB files?
Probably not. Most Korean designers don't like to see copies of their work. Look at what happened with Koala...
Post by: gaiden on Fri, 02 June 2017, 19:34:52
I'm interested to know what happened to the person you mentioned. Any context on it? Story time somebody :)Just got a Viper this week :) Love it! I may have missed it, but just wondered if there are any plans for a weight insert?
Also got it programmed last night, can anyone tell me which are the selections I need in the firmware to add hotkeys for LED colour change? I see the LED options, just not sure which one sets the colour.
Cheers! :)
A weight is planned, as far as I know.Excuse my ignorance, but how difficult is it to have a new PCB manufactured?
If you've already got the PCB schematics, all you have to do is plug it into a PCB manufacturer's website and they'll make it for you
If you don't have the files, you'll have to reverse engineer it. Which may take a while depending on how much PCB design you know
Interesting. PS I'm from 714 too.
Is Duck cool with sharing PCB files?
Probably not. Most Korean designers don't like to see copies of their work. Look at what happened with Koala...
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Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:41:22
Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:51:29
What size indicators led would you recommend?
1.8mm LED if you're using SIP sockets, 1.8mm or 2x3x4 without the sockets.
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:52:49
What size indicators led would you recommend?
1.8mm LED if you're using SIP sockets, 1.8mm or 2x3x4 without the sockets.
What about the layers leds - the same?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:55:55
What size indicators led would you recommend?
1.8mm LED if you're using SIP sockets, 1.8mm or 2x3x4 without the sockets.
What about the layers leds - the same?
Yes
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 03 June 2017, 11:56:48
What size indicators led would you recommend?
1.8mm LED if you're using SIP sockets, 1.8mm or 2x3x4 without the sockets.
What about the layers leds - the same?
Yes
Thanks.
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 03 June 2017, 23:37:00
What size indicators led would you recommend?
1.8mm LED if you're using SIP sockets, 1.8mm or 2x3x4 without the sockets.
What about the layers leds - the same?
Yes
Frosted or clear?
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 04 June 2017, 00:30:57
What size indicators led would you recommend?
1.8mm LED if you're using SIP sockets, 1.8mm or 2x3x4 without the sockets.
What about the layers leds - the same?
Yes
Frosted or clear?
doesnt matter
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 07 June 2017, 07:01:28
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 07 June 2017, 07:07:22
Can I use SMD Gatistotle plate mountable switches with my Eagle V2? If I can do I need a plate mountable stabilisers?
You can use plate mount switches but need to use PCB mount stabs.
Post by: ihalatch on Wed, 07 June 2017, 07:09:13
Can I use SMD Gatistotle plate mountable switches with my Eagle V2? If I can do I need a plate mountable stabilisers?
You can use plate mount switches but need to use PCB mount stabs.
Thanks.
Post by: darkslay3r on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:48:10
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:56:38
i had viper v2, looking for some possibilty to get extra pcb or maybe elton should open GB for extra pcb since many people want it ;D
Just because a lot of people want it, doesn't necessitate him doing it. There was a chance to buy extra PCBs and plates in the group buy.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:05:38
i had viper v2, looking for some possibilty to get extra pcb or maybe elton should open GB for extra pcb since many people want it ;DWhy not just use another 60% PCB and solder the USB cable straight to the board and route it out the middle?
Post by: Mizzazz on Sun, 11 June 2017, 05:48:02
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Post by: byker on Tue, 13 June 2017, 00:49:22
(http://i.imgur.com/1MdbO3j.jpg)
Post by: yonghf on Tue, 13 June 2017, 03:48:44
Finally built my 1st batch board, was my first board that I built myself!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1MdbO3j.jpg)
I just got a Viper v2 kit yesterday and am thinking about what to do with it. Can you share your specs please? Did you use sip-sockets for those in-switch LEDs?
Post by: byker on Tue, 13 June 2017, 10:00:16
Finally built my 1st batch board, was my first board that I built myself!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1MdbO3j.jpg)
I just got a Viper v2 kit yesterday and am thinking about what to do with it. Can you share your specs please? Did you use sip-sockets for those in-switch LEDs?
I used lubed vintage browns and an acrylic plate. QUite a fun feeling as the plate is pretty flexy. I did not use sip sockets for the leds.
Thanks to wodan for the helpful build log and iNViSiBiLiTi for the programming guide!
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:08:18
Quick question, where can one find a good source for Vintage MX Browns? Fantastic looking board by the way!
I used lubed vintage browns and an acrylic plate. QUite a fun feeling as the plate is pretty flexy. I did not use sip sockets for the leds.
Thanks to wodan for the helpful build log and iNViSiBiLiTi for the programming guide!
Post by: byker on Tue, 13 June 2017, 19:57:38
Quick question, where can one find a good source for Vintage MX Browns? Fantastic looking board by the way!
I used lubed vintage browns and an acrylic plate. QUite a fun feeling as the plate is pretty flexy. I did not use sip sockets for the leds.
Thanks to wodan for the helpful build log and iNViSiBiLiTi for the programming guide!
Thanks! I am not sure to be honest, I got them from a friend. There was someone on mechmarket selling them a while back, called heroinbob iirc, not sure if he still has some though!
Post by: renzpwns on Wed, 14 June 2017, 19:10:16
Thanks! I am not sure to be honest, I got them from a friend. There was someone on mechmarket selling them a while back, called heroinbob iirc, not sure if he still has some though!Thanks a lot, I'll ask if he still has em.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 14 June 2017, 20:13:20
Post by: hoanglh94 on Sat, 17 June 2017, 05:20:02
(https://i.imgur.com/kYVRJaC.jpg)
Post by: anthorix on Sat, 17 June 2017, 11:40:55
Post by: techfresh on Sat, 17 June 2017, 12:03:53
Guys, any info about the brass weight inserts? really wanna get one right now :(
Given how long it's taking in the BlackBird weight buy, it's going to be a loooooong time to get this (that prior buy needs to end before this one begins), so you might want to cut your hype for a while :(
Do you have the specs for the weight already or how would one go about getting the specs? I was going to check to see if there are any shops in the Bay Area that could fulfill an order.
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 17 June 2017, 14:01:14
Guys, any info about the brass weight inserts? really wanna get one right now :(
Given how long it's taking in the BlackBird weight buy, it's going to be a loooooong time to get this (that prior buy needs to end before this one begins), so you might want to cut your hype for a while :(
Do you have the specs for the weight already or how would one go about getting the specs? I was going to check to see if there are any shops in the Bay Area that could fulfill an order.
You could either pm merlin or send an email to duck for the spec
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 18 June 2017, 07:19:22
(http://i.imgur.com/IIyVaMu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LwrgORL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JLWeRM2.jpg)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 18 June 2017, 10:22:14
Here comes my viper v2!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IIyVaMu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LwrgORL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JLWeRM2.jpg)
Very clean! That under glow leak on the right would irritate me though
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 18 June 2017, 10:56:05
Here comes my viper v2!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IIyVaMu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LwrgORL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JLWeRM2.jpg)
What leds are those? PCB's smds or in-switch ones?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 18 June 2017, 10:57:46
Here comes my viper v2!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IIyVaMu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LwrgORL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JLWeRM2.jpg)
What leds are those? PCB's smds or in-switch ones?
In switch most likely.
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 18 June 2017, 10:59:52
Here comes my viper v2!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IIyVaMu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LwrgORL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JLWeRM2.jpg)
What leds are those? PCB's smds or in-switch ones?
In switch most likely.
Do I need sip sockets for mine? any suggestions?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 18 June 2017, 11:02:18
Here comes my viper v2!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IIyVaMu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LwrgORL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JLWeRM2.jpg)
What leds are those? PCB's smds or in-switch ones?
In switch most likely.
Do I need sip sockets for mine? any suggestions?
You don't need SIP sockets. If you plan on switching the LEDs than use SIP sockets.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 20 June 2017, 02:51:25
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 20 June 2017, 04:06:17
I'm wondering whether to buy the mechanicalkeyboards.com MX Switch Top Removal Tool for the switches. Can they be opened while mounted into the pcb and the plate?
No, the included plate doesn't have the cutouts to allow for switch top removal
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 22 June 2017, 07:11:35
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 22 June 2017, 07:56:37
The switches should not be stickered (like all tactile switches imo) as it makes the stroke longer and thus moves the bump further down the stroke. Gateron based switches also don't have that bit of play between the housings that Cherry switches can have which stickers are supposed to remove. Thus the sticker would also be pretty useless.
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 22 June 2017, 08:39:33
You don't NEED to do anything to them. But if you want you can lube them (I found that a very slim coat of lube on everything but the tactile legs on the stem works well for me, your results may vary).
The switches should not be stickered (like all tactile switches imo) as it makes the stroke longer and thus moves the bump further down the stroke. Gateron based switches also don't have that bit of play between the housings that Cherry switches can have which stickers are supposed to remove. Thus the sticker would also be pretty useless.
Thanks for the advice.
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 23 June 2017, 15:07:50
Thanks.
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 23 June 2017, 15:24:37
If anyone wants to sell their unbuilt Viper v2 kit, PM me! :)
Thanks.
I'll likely be selling mine in the near future. It's not a kit but I had a custom plate made which allows for switch top removal.
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 23 June 2017, 16:06:58
I bought the R6 Purple Zealio Switches (Tactile) for my vipear and eagle. Do I need to lube and sticker them? I'll open them anyway for the sip sockets.
you should lube the side of the switches so it's not rattly. The legs don't need lube IMO since a small amount is already applied.
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 23 June 2017, 16:10:49
If anyone wants to sell their unbuilt Viper v2 kit, PM me! :)
Thanks.
I'll likely be selling mine in the near future. It's not a kit but I had a custom plate made which allows for switch top removal.
Let's see how that goes.
PM me if you're interested in selling and we can work something out later I suppose. :thumb:
Post by: dblack on Fri, 23 June 2017, 16:19:19
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 23 June 2017, 16:57:00
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 23 June 2017, 17:44:02
Wow people still have unbuilt viper/eagles? How much would those go for?
I've seen it from low 500s to 700s at one point.
But anything over 600 is considered excessive I would imagine regardless of the demand given that the original GB was ran at such "low" price point.
500-550 seems about right.
Post by: techfresh on Sat, 24 June 2017, 10:32:33
Wow people still have unbuilt viper/eagles? How much would those go for?
I've seen it from low 500s to 700s at one point.
But anything over 600 is considered excessive I would imagine regardless of the demand given that the original GB was ran at such "low" price point.
500-550 seems about right.
I saw Eagles go for the 500s range and Vipers for the 600s range. I think kits have a higher price point as well than already built.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 26 June 2017, 08:44:09
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Mon, 26 June 2017, 08:52:18
Sorry for the newbie question. This is my first duck eagle build. For a bottom row 1.25|1.25|1.25|6.25|1.25|1.25|1.25|1.25 which holes should I use the right or the left for the space bar and the rest of the switches - there are tow overlapping holes for each switch?
Put caps on the switches then line them up on the plate/pcb. That will ensure you get the right holes.
Post by: dubious on Mon, 26 June 2017, 11:19:50
Sorry for the newbie question. This is my first duck eagle build. For a bottom row 1.25|1.25|1.25|6.25|1.25|1.25|1.25|1.25 which holes should I use the right or the left for the space bar and the rest of the switches - there are tow overlapping holes for each switch?
Put caps on the switches then line them up on the plate/pcb. That will ensure you get the right holes.
If you flip the caps upside down and line them up with the pcb you can see where the center of the switch will go.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 26 June 2017, 23:52:11
Post by: Cocopah on Mon, 26 June 2017, 23:54:47
I don't see which led hole is "+" or "-"?
The flat side is negative + ( | -
Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 26 June 2017, 23:59:51
I don't see which led hole is "+" or "-"?an easy way is:
plug the usb and put the LED into the hole, check it in which way will be light up
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 27 June 2017, 00:00:47
I don't see which led hole is "+" or "-"?an easy way is:
plug the usb and put the LED into the hole, check it in which way will be light up
Thanks.
Post by: yonghf on Fri, 30 June 2017, 09:43:45
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Fri, 30 June 2017, 11:13:52
I'm trying to mirror a HHKB layout on my Viper. Is there a guide online? Not sure how to switch layers. If you could share your firmware hex file that would be highly appreciated.
I just sent you a PM with a guide, let me know if you need any help!
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 30 June 2017, 11:53:21
I'm trying to mirror a HHKB layout on my Viper. Is there a guide online? Not sure how to switch layers. If you could share your firmware hex file that would be highly appreciated.
I just sent you a PM with a guide, let me know if you need any help!
Can you send me a guide, too?
I'm gonna put together Viper v2 for HHKB layout soon, too.
Thanks! :D
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 30 June 2017, 17:00:05
I'm trying to mirror a HHKB layout on my Viper. Is there a guide online? Not sure how to switch layers. If you could share your firmware hex file that would be highly appreciated.
I just sent you a PM with a guide, let me know if you need any help!
Can you send me a guide, too?
I'm gonna put together Viper v2 for HHKB layout soon, too.
Thanks! :D
Why don't you just post the link for all of us?
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Fri, 30 June 2017, 18:10:53
I'm trying to mirror a HHKB layout on my Viper. Is there a guide online? Not sure how to switch layers. If you could share your firmware hex file that would be highly appreciated.
I just sent you a PM with a guide, let me know if you need any help!
Can you send me a guide, too?
I'm gonna put together Viper v2 for HHKB layout soon, too.
Thanks! :D
Why don't you just post the link for all of us?
Flip: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/wiki#flash-firmware
Keymapper: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IyxQTLqywC7n6XMzA9XHXpq0QjWpg2HzuENi08qlpPY/edit
Post by: yonghf on Sat, 01 July 2017, 01:07:16
Sharing the hex file here - hope it helps!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyzd5f2t2x4rson/HHKB_Duck_Viper_v2.hex?dl=0
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 06 July 2017, 00:35:58
First I tested the pcbs. One of them was good the other one had one of the underglow side smd led fallen off (the bottom of the picture). I was able to find it in the packaging. As I result only the top row of smds is lighting? I'm not sure whether this is due to the smd?
http://imgur.com/CIGFOkl
The fallen smd chipped two of the pads, which are now glued to the smd's pins so I think it'll be difficult for me to solder back. Any suggestions of how to fix the problem? Do you think that the missing smd causes the bottom row of smds not to light up? Is it possible to get another pcb?
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:59:12
I started the build of my duck eagle and viper V2 last night.
First I tested the pcbs. One of them was good the other one had one of the underglow side smd led fallen off (the bottom of the picture). I was able to find it in the packaging. As I result only the top row of smds is lighting? I'm not sure whether this is due to the smd?
http://imgur.com/CIGFOkl
The fallen smd chipped two of the pads, which are now glued to the smd's pins so I think it'll be difficult for me to solder back. Any suggestions of how to fix the problem? Do you think that the missing smd causes the bottom row of smds not to light up? Is it possible to get another pcb?
The led that broke off is likely the reason the others will not light up since they're normally wired in series. I would try messaging Elton and seeing if he can get you another PCB if you can't solder the led back on
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 06 July 2017, 02:32:14
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 06 July 2017, 03:09:24
Unfortunately two of the board pads stuck to two of the smd's pins and chipped off the pcb. It must have happened during transportation because I found the smd led in the packaging. I don't know of any way of soldering the smd led back to the pcb. I tried last night to solder it but to no avail. Any suggestions?
youtube a soldering tutorial
Post by: Shados on Mon, 10 July 2017, 00:41:00
Unfortunately two of the board pads stuck to two of the smd's pins and chipped off the pcb. It must have happened during transportation because I found the smd led in the packaging. I don't know of any way of soldering the smd led back to the pcb. I tried last night to solder it but to no avail. Any suggestions?
It's possible to replace/repair damaged pads and traces, although it can get somewhat complicated. I'd suggest googling to find out what's involved and whether or not you think you can handle it; if not there are people who do electronics repair professionally, so you can always pay to get it fixed.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 10 July 2017, 06:45:24
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 10 July 2017, 08:13:48
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Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 30 July 2017, 14:16:23
Is there a round three expected at some point in the future or are aftermarket prices only going to get higher at this point?
We have no idea. If you want the board buy aftermarket.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 30 July 2017, 16:51:12
Is there a round three expected at some point in the future or are aftermarket prices only going to get higher at this point?
I'm pretty sure duck has never done a third round or version of anything.
Post by: Puree on Sun, 30 July 2017, 17:31:09
Is there a round three expected at some point in the future or are aftermarket prices only going to get higher at this point?
I'm pretty sure duck has never done a third round or version of anything.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.0 :rolleyes:
Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 30 July 2017, 21:27:41
Is there a round three expected at some point in the future or are aftermarket prices only going to get higher at this point?
I'm pretty sure duck has never done a third round or version of anything.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.0 :rolleyes:
:thumb:
Post by: AlexG on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:29:32
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 02 August 2017, 18:16:58
Is there a round three expected at some point in the future or are aftermarket prices only going to get higher at this point?
I'm pretty sure duck has never done a third round or version of anything.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.0 :rolleyes:
LSV3 is the first time
i think
so maybe hold out hope
Post by: dubious on Fri, 04 August 2017, 13:45:19
Is there a round three expected at some point in the future or are aftermarket prices only going to get higher at this point?
I'm pretty sure duck has never done a third round or version of anything.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89546.0 :rolleyes:
LSV3 is the first time
i think
so maybe hold out hope
Duck has been coming out with a revision of his boards each year, and hasn't indicated he is retiring any time soon. Don't lose hope :thumb:
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 04 August 2017, 13:48:47
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 04 August 2017, 14:46:37
Does anyone know what the microcontroller on this board is? Is it a atmega32u4?
I have investigated. It's a 32u4.
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 04 August 2017, 15:01:25
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 16 August 2017, 00:54:17
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 18 August 2017, 04:26:21
Post by: techfresh on Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:09:03
So.. who have made the weight insert for their viper v2?We are weighting for Merlin to finish the other GB. Last update there is he is getting the corrected weights next week and then will ship out.
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Post by: zacheadams on Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:34:17
So.. who have made the weight insert for their viper v2?We are weighting for Merlin to finish the other GB. Last update there is he is getting the corrected weights next week and then will ship out.
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Yep, and my current understanding is that when he does the Eagle/Viper weight, he'll just be ordering his own bulk instead of a groupbuy so that they can be sold all at once without wait.
Post by: merlin64 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 14:11:44
So.. who have made the weight insert for their viper v2?We are weighting for Merlin to finish the other GB. Last update there is he is getting the corrected weights next week and then will ship out.
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Yep, and my current understanding is that when he does the Eagle/Viper weight, he'll just be ordering his own bulk instead of a groupbuy so that they can be sold all at once without wait.
Indeed! I apologize for the weight.
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 19 August 2017, 11:33:45
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You'll have better luck on mechmarket over the GB thread.
Post by: kconfire on Sat, 19 August 2017, 11:47:12
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You'll have better luck on mechmarket over the GB thread.
Thanks, I've been posting on mechmarket for a little while without any luck.
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Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:15:15
I have strayed from my usual build schedule..and actually built my Duck Eagle in less than a year. lol.
I put in Gateron Yellows and holtites! I've been looking for a linear switch that suits me for the longest time, and I have to say these yellows feel fantastic!!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:18:19
I have an announcement.
I have strayed from my usual build schedule..and actually built my Duck Eagle in less than a year. lol.
Who are you and what did you do to merlin64?
I put in Gateron Yellows and holtites! I've been looking for a linear switch that suits me for the longest time, and I have to say these yellows feel fantastic!!
:thumb:
Holtites are a godsent for builds like these where it's basically impossible to get another PCB, also great to hear that you like the weight of the yellows.
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:43:51
Having keyboards in pieces takes up more room than built keyboards. I've endeavored to finish all my projects this summer and I'm doing great so far!
I'm very surprised with how these yellows feel. I think sometimes we get so caught up in the whole Kustom game that we think only custom switches belong in our keyboard. I'm very happy and very pleased with these yellow despite them being stock lol. In the future I may decide to lube them, but I hope it doesn't ruin their feel. I just have to figure out how to use the software to program it now.
Post by: techfresh on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:46:08
MechMerlin is dead. This is MechMorganLeFay. lolIt was more straight forward than I thought. Thank to this guide https://gist.github.com/ankailou/0b3f3183429536d86ecf4e7d27860b6c
Having keyboards in pieces takes up more room than built keyboards. I've endeavored to finish all my projects this summer and I'm doing great so far!
I'm very surprised with how these yellows feel. I think sometimes we get so caught up in the whole Kustom game that we think only custom switches belong in our keyboard. I'm very happy and very pleased with these yellow despite them being stock lol. In the future I may decide to lube them, but I hope it doesn't ruin their feel. I just have to figure out how to use the software to program it now.
The harder part was trying to figure out what all of the LED/RGB commands do. Let me know if you get stuck.
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:49:35
Post by: techfresh on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:52:48
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:29:20
I'd much rather use QMK.
Just don't forget to program a software reset key (it's not like I've ever done that before :)) ).
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:57:35
I'd much rather use QMK.
Just don't forget to program a software reset key (it's not like I've ever done that before :)) ).
LOL. What did you do to put it in reset? Did you like have to find the reset pins on the microcontroller and short them?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:14:38
I'd much rather use QMK.
Just don't forget to program a software reset key (it's not like I've ever done that before :)) ).
LOL. What did you do to put it in reset? Did you like have to find the reset pins on the microcontroller and short them?
Yes
Post by: zimo on Wed, 11 October 2017, 07:29:27
After I reset the key, the computer didn't recognize my eagle
Asking for help, I don't know how to go on
Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 11 October 2017, 08:08:17
Where can I find the firmware of eagle V2
After I reset the key, the computer didn't recognize my eagle
Asking for help, I don't know how to go on
按了reset之后应该是进了loader没出来，重新刷下固件应该就好了。
工具及教程参考这个：https://gist.github.com/ankailou/0b3f3183429536d86ecf4e7d27860b6c
Post by: zimo on Thu, 12 October 2017, 00:58:13
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Post by: hoanglh94 on Mon, 16 October 2017, 22:43:32
Has anyone else been experiencing some crazy keychatter/ key debounce issues? It seems like o2d has an incredibly fast debounce time because I get random key chatter on keys all the time. Really annoying never having a functioning keyboard when I spent so much money on it.
hmm, seems like i'm not the only one haha. I thought it was my switch since I used some old Clear but turned out it might be the pcb that caused it :-/
Post by: anthorix on Wed, 15 November 2017, 08:23:34
Post by: sonic2911 on Wed, 15 November 2017, 11:42:28
Anyone have a black eagle top and is looking to trade for a viper one?Kit or assembled
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Post by: xondat on Wed, 15 November 2017, 11:43:16
Anyone have a black eagle top and is looking to trade for a viper one?
Kit or assembled
Don't think it'd matter? Think he means literally only the top piece, not top/plate.
Post by: darkslay3r on Mon, 27 November 2017, 17:29:42
Love it
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Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 06:36:57
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 11:48:11
Post by: Peppermint216 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:55:58
The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to itI did exactly this to all 4 led pads(loosened the solder). Will give it another go however with more solder this time.
Post by: HappyCatFish on Mon, 01 January 2018, 15:26:50
Does anyone here want to help me test my QMK port? I got it working on my Eagle with the standard layout (typing this message on a qmk powered duck eagle v2). Was wondering if anyone with a non standard layout or a viper would be willing to test for me to see how it works for them. Thank you!
The PCB's are exactly the same between the Viper V2 and the Eagle V2, so I am not sure if you really need someone to test it with, but it sounds interesting and I'd be willing to try it out. DM me!
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 16:44:59
As my current tester already pointed out, I was wrong! lol. While my Eagle worked, merely changing the keymap to fit a viper didn't. I'll PM you with details as I always need more testers.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:05:45
The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to it
LED 15 is official destroyed :'(, resulting in LED 16 being non funtional. LED 15, I have pulled 2 of the traces from the PCB, is it possible to wire these up from LED 14?
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:37:28
The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to it
LED 15 is official destroyed :'(, resulting in LED 16 being non funtional. LED 15, I have pulled 2 of the traces from the PCB, is it possible to wire these up from LED 14?
I know this is unrelated, but double check if your stabs are shorting anything.
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:48:16
The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to it
LED 15 is official destroyed :'(, resulting in LED 16 being non funtional. LED 15, I have pulled 2 of the traces from the PCB, is it possible to wire these up from LED 14?
Ugh..I'm so sorry to hear that. This is one issue I have with Duck PCBs, pads are too fragile.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:53:48
Yeah I'm really angry with myself, on the positive side, it's LED 15 and not LED 1. I can disable the 4 side LEDs and it still looks nice.The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to it
LED 15 is official destroyed :'(, resulting in LED 16 being non funtional. LED 15, I have pulled 2 of the traces from the PCB, is it possible to wire these up from LED 14?
Ugh..I'm so sorry to hear that. This is one issue I have with Duck PCBs, pads are too fragile.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:54:49
I really hope it's not, because I have a stab screw over 2 switch led holes, and it would mean I've destroyed the led for no reason. Either way I won't know because the affected LEDs pads a ripped off.The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to it
LED 15 is official destroyed :'(, resulting in LED 16 being non funtional. LED 15, I have pulled 2 of the traces from the PCB, is it possible to wire these up from LED 14?
I know this is unrelated, but double check if your stabs are shorting anything.
Post by: profanum429 on Tue, 02 January 2018, 23:09:35
The bottom right pad doesn't look soldered properly...pressing caps lock if it's in the position between tab and shift is probably disturbing it . I'd reflow the solder and maybe even add a bit more to it
LED 15 is official destroyed :'(, resulting in LED 16 being non funtional. LED 15, I have pulled 2 of the traces from the PCB, is it possible to wire these up from LED 14?
I **believe** that the RGB LEDs are WS2812B types so if you jumper the pins on the LED 15 to LED 14 and LED 16 properly they should work. The datasheet is here: http://www.seeedstudio.com/document/pdf/WS2812B%20Datasheet.pdf (http://www.seeedstudio.com/document/pdf/WS2812B%20Datasheet.pdf). This will depend on which pads are lifted. For instance if you lifted the DIN pad on LED 15, you'd need to jumper the DOUT pin on LED14 to the DIN pin on LED15. If you lifted the DOUT pad on LED15 you'll need to jumper DOUT on LED15 to DIN on LED16. The other ones should just be one to one, VDD to LED 14 VDD, VSS to LED 14 VSS.
I'm not 100% sure they are WS2812Bs but after looking at and running the QMK firmware they seem to respond like WS2812s and they are the 4 pin package of the WS2812Bs. If you aren't comfortable with any of this then probably dig deeper since I'm not 100% sure and don't want to mess anything up further!
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 02 January 2018, 23:25:24
https://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=SMD%20LED%20-%20RGB%20WS2812B%20&filter_description=true&filter_sub_category=true&product_id=915
I can also send you a wiring diagram for how the pins connect from LED to LED if you want to give it a shot. Duck was kind enough to provide this a while ago as I’ve had a couple of LED issues as well. Pm me if you’d like that.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 03 January 2018, 01:17:49
I **believe** that the RGB LEDs are WS2812B types so if you jumper the pins on the LED 15 to LED 14 and LED 16 properly they should work. The datasheet is here: http://www.seeedstudio.com/document/pdf/WS2812B%20Datasheet.pdf (http://www.seeedstudio.com/document/pdf/WS2812B%20Datasheet.pdf). This will depend on which pads are lifted. For instance if you lifted the DIN pad on LED 15, you'd need to jumper the DOUT pin on LED14 to the DIN pin on LED15. If you lifted the DOUT pad on LED15 you'll need to jumper DOUT on LED15 to DIN on LED16. The other ones should just be one to one, VDD to LED 14 VDD, VSS to LED 14 VSS.
I'm not 100% sure they are WS2812Bs but after looking at and running the QMK firmware they seem to respond like WS2812s and they are the 4 pin package of the WS2812Bs. If you aren't comfortable with any of this then probably dig deeper since I'm not 100% sure and don't want to mess anything up further!
This is correct. I ordered a few strips of 10 from here and had a good experience.
https://www.tinyosshop.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=SMD%20LED%20-%20RGB%20WS2812B%20&filter_description=true&filter_sub_category=true&product_id=915
I can also send you a wiring diagram for how the pins connect from LED to LED if you want to give it a shot. Duck was kind enough to provide this a while ago as I’ve had a couple of LED issues as well. Pm me if you’d like that.
Thanks for the help, both of you.
I have gone ahead a bought 10 WS2812Bs. It is the 2 traces on the edge of the board, not sure yet what these correlate to on the led based on the datasheet.
PMed smittysteve
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:01:09
Special thanks to work previously done by xauser, rasmusx and contributions from profanum429 in getting the indicators and viper keymap working.
Please keep in mind that this is not the official firmware endorsed by Duck.
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/eagle_viper
Post by: Peppermint216 on Fri, 05 January 2018, 17:26:00
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 05 January 2018, 19:11:33
Repaired, thanks for the help everyone.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180105/b4bf38d0f9e9fa7be8d16e6c2a41187a.jpg)
well
if it works, it works, i guess
Post by: stbasterd on Mon, 08 January 2018, 23:24:01
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Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 09 January 2018, 09:35:39
Has anyone else been experiencing some crazy keychatter/ key debounce issues? It seems like o2d has an incredibly fast debounce time because I get random key chatter on keys all the time. Really annoying never having a functioning keyboard when I spent so much money on it.
hmm, seems like i'm not the only one haha. I thought it was my switch since I used some old Clear but turned out it might be the pcb that caused it :-/
You might want to try QMK and see if the debounce issues go away.
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 19 February 2018, 11:55:59
Post by: dubious on Mon, 19 February 2018, 12:01:12
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 19 February 2018, 12:05:53
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
Would this also have a plate, or just a PCB? I'm most interested in a nice aluminum HHKB. I like Noxary, too, but it's hard to get when it's raffle based.
Post by: dubious on Mon, 19 February 2018, 12:08:07
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
Would this also have a plate, or just a PCB? I'm most interested in a nice aluminum HHKB. I like Noxary, too, but it's hard to get when it's raffle based.
probably just pcb
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 February 2018, 14:53:01
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
Post by: dubious on Mon, 19 February 2018, 15:31:51
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
well ****
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 February 2018, 17:04:58
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
well ****
and i forgot to mention before that viper v1 is tray mount anyway, so that's why v 1.1 is also tray
Post by: Grimspoon on Mon, 19 February 2018, 17:17:38
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
Does he have any V2 PCB's he'd like to sell. I could really use a functional V2 pcb.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:20:38
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
Does he have any V2 PCB's he'd like to sell. I could really use a functional V2 pcb.
Not as far as I know.
Post by: lanyusea on Mon, 19 February 2018, 20:05:49
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
I thought it is a future GB...
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 February 2018, 20:45:58
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
I thought it is a future GB...
he said he might run it again, since it's popular
we'll see what's coming after the holiday, i'll see what i can find on kbdlab
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 20 February 2018, 00:22:25
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
I thought it is a future GB...
he said he might run it again, since it's popular
we'll see what's coming after the holiday, i'll see what i can find on kbdlab
I noticed this keyboard kbdlab before. http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&search_target=nick_name&search_keyword=duck0113&document_srl=4954894
but haven't found any GB information (though in Korean
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 February 2018, 02:11:16
Any chance of this running again? I missed out on v2 and would love to get a Viper rather than a Tina-C. Thanks!
There's a remake of Viper v1 in the works, but it's tray mount and has an updated design.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor (https://www.instagram.com/p/BduVLF6jEQq/?hl=en&taken-by=duck0113_kor)
already ran, private run KR only
duck had a few extra viper v1 PCBs he wanted to get rid of
I thought it is a future GB...
he said he might run it again, since it's popular
we'll see what's coming after the holiday, i'll see what i can find on kbdlab
I noticed this keyboard kbdlab before. http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&search_target=nick_name&search_keyword=duck0113&document_srl=4954894
but haven't found any GB information (though in Korean)
i'll ask him next time i talk to him, i've heard a few different things from a few different people
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Mon, 05 March 2018, 10:25:07
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 12:06:39
Would really love another run of this :( I need an extra PCB because this is my favourite keyboard of all time and would be devastated when/if it stops working.
E6 center USB PCB works with this
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Mon, 05 March 2018, 12:27:54
E6-V2 pcb? Is it the QMK or bootmapper pcb?Would really love another run of this :( I need an extra PCB because this is my favourite keyboard of all time and would be devastated when/if it stops working.
E6 center USB PCB works with this
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 12:50:31
E6-V2 pcb? Is it the QMK or bootmapper pcb?Would really love another run of this :( I need an extra PCB because this is my favourite keyboard of all time and would be devastated when/if it stops working.
E6 center USB PCB works with this
the center USB one, they're the same size
and i haven't tested it, but this is what i have heard
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Mon, 05 March 2018, 13:15:13
Sorry I meant to ask if all the E6-V2 round 2 pcbs were center usb?E6-V2 pcb? Is it the QMK or bootmapper pcb?Would really love another run of this :( I need an extra PCB because this is my favourite keyboard of all time and would be devastated when/if it stops working.
E6 center USB PCB works with this
the center USB one, they're the same size
and i haven't tested it, but this is what i have heard
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 05 March 2018, 13:19:47
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:02:46
Yes they are. I don't think the underglow will line up properly though.
win some lose some
haven't had a chance to look at an e6 PCB so can't say
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:10:49
Sorry I meant to ask if all the E6-V2 round 2 pcbs were center usb?E6-V2 pcb? Is it the QMK or bootmapper pcb?Would really love another run of this :( I need an extra PCB because this is my favourite keyboard of all time and would be devastated when/if it stops working.
E6 center USB PCB works with this
the center USB one, they're the same size
and i haven't tested it, but this is what i have heard
[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
Exclusive did really reach me to help him point this out.
He is really kind to you guys!
There are two points after the PCB comparison
1. The distance between switches in e6 pcb is less than the one in viper --> means the e6 pcb is not compatible with viper plate
2. The width of e6 pcb is larger than viper --> means you need to cut it narrower first if you insist to use one with your own plate
3. the USB port position is exactly same, also the MCU position --> means no change need to be made about the case
So the conclusion:
1. can, but need more work
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:45:07
Sorry I meant to ask if all the E6-V2 round 2 pcbs were center usb?E6-V2 pcb? Is it the QMK or bootmapper pcb?Would really love another run of this :( I need an extra PCB because this is my favourite keyboard of all time and would be devastated when/if it stops working.
E6 center USB PCB works with this
the center USB one, they're the same size
and i haven't tested it, but this is what i have heard
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
Exclusive did really reach me to help him point this out.
He is really kind to you guys!
There are two points after the PCB comparison
1. The distance between switches in e6 pcb is less than the one in viper --> means the e6 pcb is not compatible with viper plate
2. The width of e6 pcb is larger than viper --> means you need to cut it narrower first if you insist to use one with your own plate
3. the USB port position is exactly same, also the MCU position --> means no change need to be made about the case
So the conclusion:
1. can, but need more work
interesting, thank you for the information
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:04:13
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:25:48
So correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like it's just a plate issue. The Viper and Eagle files are available already =).
also need to cut the bottom part of the pcb, a little
Post by: Grimspoon on Mon, 12 March 2018, 21:31:25
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:06:07
Just putting this out there but I'd like to see more PCBs made available.
Not gonna happen unless Snow does another run of them. He did a small run of viper PCBs (about 10), but I believe duck told him not to make more of them.
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:38:22
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:35:36
Why would Duck want that :(
Probably the same reason Duck didn't want to share his plate files, fear of cloning his design(s).
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:41:52
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:46:30
Of course, I never even thought. My PCB is in pretty bad shape so would be interested, if at all possible for a mini pcb run with Ducks blessing.
I'm with you on that one, I'm kicking myself for not picking up a spare PCB during the GB. I've noticed that quite a few people are looking for one as well and having zero luck.
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 11:26:15
Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 16 March 2018, 14:23:29
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 March 2018, 23:05:56
Makes me wonder if there isn't a PCB ninja in the community who could help with a GB to produce compatible aftermarket PCBs.
bug wilba about it
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sat, 17 March 2018, 04:47:34
I really hate the 3 black spots on the front diffuser.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 March 2018, 01:05:10
Does anyone know if I can install an led strip to the PCB?
I really hate the 3 black spots on the front diffuser.
don't think so, but you can try replacing the LEDs
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 18 March 2018, 02:01:22
Most boards have a cluster of tracers bundled together, the V2 has 7, I know some boards use these for LEDs like the gh60 and was hoping the same for the V2.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 March 2018, 02:04:01
The LEDs are fine, I think it's because I'm using purple and it's not very bright, doesn't spread very well on the front diffuser.
Most boards have a cluster of tracers bundled together, the V2 has 7, I know some boards use these for LEDs like the gh60 and was hoping the same for the V2.
Try EL wire
im not sure about the PCB
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 18 March 2018, 02:20:03
They look like they will help a lot, not sure if it can be powered by the PCB though?The LEDs are fine, I think it's because I'm using purple and it's not very bright, doesn't spread very well on the front diffuser.
Most boards have a cluster of tracers bundled together, the V2 has 7, I know some boards use these for LEDs like the gh60 and was hoping the same for the V2.
Try EL wire
im not sure about the PCB
Post by: Visionaire on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:18:14
Love the board, but have run into an issue using it on my work VDI. With my home PC, everything operates as expected, but once I plug it into the work machine the computer is inputting more than one stroke per key. I've typed this all just normally... but if I had started it on the work machine it would look like:
ssssooo iiiii''''mmm
It did this upon receiving the board, but I have since flashed it with 02D and changed the layout... but the issue persists. Any thoughts / experience with this?
Thanks!
Post by: JubJubCity on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:30:49
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 22 March 2018, 11:00:10
So I'm a new proud owner of an Eagle v2!
Love the board, but have run into an issue using it on my work VDI. With my home PC, everything operates as expected, but once I plug it into the work machine the computer is inputting more than one stroke per key. I've typed this all just normally... but if I had started it on the work machine it would look like:
ssssooo iiiii''''mmm
It did this upon receiving the board, but I have since flashed it with 02D and changed the layout... but the issue persists. Any thoughts / experience with this?
Thanks!
You can try flashing it with QMK and changing the debouncing value. That might help.
Post by: Shados on Fri, 23 March 2018, 00:06:00
So I'm a new proud owner of an Eagle v2!
Love the board, but have run into an issue using it on my work VDI. With my home PC, everything operates as expected, but once I plug it into the work machine the computer is inputting more than one stroke per key. I've typed this all just normally... but if I had started it on the work machine it would look like:
ssssooo iiiii''''mmm
It did this upon receiving the board, but I have since flashed it with 02D and changed the layout... but the issue persists. Any thoughts / experience with this?
Thanks!
These kinds of issues happen with most remoting solutions from time to time, regardless of keyboard. Check with the support for whatever system you're using.
Post by: JubJubCity on Wed, 18 April 2018, 14:00:17
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 18 April 2018, 18:12:56
Just wondering if any one has a extra eagle top or one they would want to park with, i would be willing to buy.Good luck getting someone to split their top from their bottom. It might be easier to buy a whole new eagle unless someone ruined their bottom piece.
Post by: JubJubCity on Wed, 18 April 2018, 22:07:22
Yeah i figured as much :(Just wondering if any one has a extra eagle top or one they would want to park with, i would be willing to buy.Good luck getting someone to split their top from their bottom. It might be easier to buy a whole new eagle unless someone ruined their bottom piece.
Post by: JubJubCity on Sun, 22 April 2018, 00:49:59
Post by: merlin64 on Sun, 22 April 2018, 01:02:16
Where would be the best place to see if i could get a weight for the **** viper v2?
I would check Geekhack/reddit periodically in the next few months....
Post by: Butter on Sun, 22 April 2018, 01:03:50
Where would be the best place to see if i could get a weight for the **** viper v2?
I would check Geekhack/reddit periodically in the next few months....
If you run a GB for the weights I am in sir.
Post by: JubJubCity on Sun, 22 April 2018, 01:13:27
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 22 April 2018, 02:20:33
I as well looking forward to making this heavy AF :thumb:smittysteve is arranging a viper/eagle V2 and Jetfire weight GB.
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 22 April 2018, 02:21:26
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 22 April 2018, 12:07:35
Where would the weight go? o.o
There's a space for it in the bottom case.
Post by: zacheadams on Sun, 22 April 2018, 13:41:01
Where would the weight go? o.o
There's a space for it in the bottom case.
Specifically on the top portion of the bottom half of the case (i.e. on the inside, below the PCB).
Post by: xondat on Sun, 22 April 2018, 13:54:08
Where would the weight go? o.oThere's a space for it in the bottom case.
Specifically on the top portion of the bottom half of the case (i.e. on the inside, below the PCB).
And all Duck top mount boards have this, it looks like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/EqvLCAo.png)
:))
Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 22 April 2018, 22:33:56
Where would the weight go? o.oThere's a space for it in the bottom case.
Specifically on the top portion of the bottom half of the case (i.e. on the inside, below the PCB).
And all Duck top mount boards have this, it looks like this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EqvLCAo.png)
:))
+1
I have been noticing this empty for too long.
Post by: merlin64 on Mon, 23 April 2018, 00:06:42
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 28 April 2018, 17:23:43
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:10:17
more GBs for the Duck Eagle?
doubtful
although raven looks like it will have a poker style version
Post by: lanyusea on Sat, 28 April 2018, 23:29:58
more GBs for the Duck Eagle?
just wait Duck Raven
http://duck0113.tistory.com/164
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 29 April 2018, 00:17:28
more GBs for the Duck Eagle?
just wait Duck Raven
http://duck0113.tistory.com/164
Traymount :(
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 29 April 2018, 12:39:49
more GBs for the Duck Eagle?
just wait Duck Raven
http://duck0113.tistory.com/164
Traymount :(
viper/eagle v1 and octagon v1 are both tray mount as well
better than average tray mount imo
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 30 April 2018, 01:23:39
more GBs for the Duck Eagle?
just wait Duck Raven
http://duck0113.tistory.com/164
Traymount :(
viper/eagle v1 and octagon v1 are both tray mount as well
better than average tray mount imo
You're right. I wonder when this GB will happen... Really digging it!
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Sun, 20 May 2018, 19:24:21
The kit came with an unbuild PCB. I started testing the pcb last night (without soldering and switches), at first everything works fine, the underglow were gorgeous. But after 10 minutes the underglow stopped working. I thought it might be firmware problem, so I flashed the pcb(I tried both QMK and 02D), all keys registered, but the underglow just won’t turn on. Instead, the underglow would flash at the moment when I plug the pcb to my computer, after that they won't turn on.
I know I'm new to customize keymap, I thought maybe I didn’t get the right key for underglow LEDs, so I customized all LED related keys in my layer 1(replacing 1-0) . Still nothing works :/
Have anyone ever encountered anything like this? I’m starting to think maybe I shorted the underglow somehow? But it was a brand new PCB and I only plugged it in 3 times before LEDs failed. hopefully I just missed some steps.
thanks in advance! :thumb:
Post by: p_blaze on Sun, 20 May 2018, 19:54:36
check the solder and check if any of it touches the bottom case
make sure you clipped all the ends of the leds if you soldered them in
try a different cable and usb port
can't give you much more advice myself, hopefully someone else knows more
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Sun, 20 May 2018, 20:17:20
EDIT: didn't read it right
check the solder and check if any of it touches the bottom case
make sure you clipped all the ends of the leds if you soldered them in
try a different cable and usb port
can't give you much more advice myself, hopefully someone else knows more
My bad, sorry for the confusion, I meant the underglow. I haven't install or solder any switch LEDs yet, I was just testing the underglow, and it stopped working on both the bottom case and my desk mat...
Post by: p_blaze on Mon, 21 May 2018, 06:14:14
EDIT: didn't read it right
check the solder and check if any of it touches the bottom case
make sure you clipped all the ends of the leds if you soldered them in
try a different cable and usb port
can't give you much more advice myself, hopefully someone else knows more
My bad, sorry for the confusion, I meant the underglow. I haven't install or solder any switch LEDs yet, I was just testing the underglow, and it stopped working on both the bottom case and my desk mat...
Swap the cable, and check if all the usb pins are snug.
I had the same issue when one of my leds was missing except they would light up in series except for the leds cut off by the missing one
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Tue, 22 May 2018, 22:40:19
EDIT: didn't read it right
check the solder and check if any of it touches the bottom case
make sure you clipped all the ends of the leds if you soldered them in
try a different cable and usb port
can't give you much more advice myself, hopefully someone else knows more
My bad, sorry for the confusion, I meant the underglow. I haven't install or solder any switch LEDs yet, I was just testing the underglow, and it stopped working on both the bottom case and my desk mat...
Swap the cable, and check if all the usb pins are snug.
I had the same issue when one of my leds was missing except they would light up in series except for the leds cut off by the missing one
So I did swap a brand new cable, still no luck. USB pins seemed snug.
Update: Got a few LEDs for the indicators and in switch LEDs as shown in the pic. No signs of the underglow :/ (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180523/52dd150972a86d974502da13e12631f9.jpg)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Wed, 23 May 2018, 16:03:16
In the programming software(can't remember the name of it) open the led menu and reset it to default, save and flash.
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 23 May 2018, 17:28:02
I fixed my blackbird's underglow and recorded it there, maybe it'll give you some insight. I'd usually try to put more some brainpower into helping you out, but I'm swamped with work right now.
Note that I did fix it incorrectly, because I wired the data lines wrong and will correct that soon. The LEDs are WS2812Bs.
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Thu, 24 May 2018, 22:12:33
If they all flash when plugged in I wouldn't imagine they're broken. Sounds to me like they are turned off in memory, change the LED mode and make sure brightness is on full.
In the programming software(can't remember the name of it) open the led menu and reset it to default, save and flash.
You mean O2D right? I did what you said, and still no underglow. I went ahead for more testing: I used a 3mm LED to touch the contact point of each underglow LED, and it lit up(as shown in the pic). Now I’m suspecting this is not a problem on software level....but let me know if this isn’t the right way to test.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/532b5e4ba0b3a03d53cacb00a035f002.jpg)
Post by: moitorpsychoo on Thu, 24 May 2018, 22:13:49
https://imgur.com/a/To3YgWz
I fixed my blackbird's underglow and recorded it there, maybe it'll give you some insight. I'd usually try to put more some brainpower into helping you out, but I'm swamped with work right now.
Note that I did fix it incorrectly, because I wired the data lines wrong and will correct that soon. The LEDs are WS2812Bs.
Now I’m thinking maybe I should get some new LEDs to test...thanks for the detailed repair walkthrough!!
Post by: p_blaze on Thu, 24 May 2018, 22:38:00
If they all flash when plugged in I wouldn't imagine they're broken. Sounds to me like they are turned off in memory, change the LED mode and make sure brightness is on full.
In the programming software(can't remember the name of it) open the led menu and reset it to default, save and flash.
You mean O2D right? I did what you said, and still no underglow. I went ahead for more testing: I used a 3mm LED to touch the contact point of each underglow LED, and it lit up(as shown in the pic). Now I’m suspecting this is not a problem on software level....but let me know if this isn’t the right way to test.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180525/532b5e4ba0b3a03d53cacb00a035f002.jpg)
I recommend pulling out a multimeter, taking a look at the ws2812b data sheet, and just checking voltages between connected pins. The first LED might be borked, or you might have an issue with the microcontroller or its pins. Also check the USB port and see if there is cracked solder there. If you can't find an issue, maybe look into reflowing the microcontroller and the usb pins if you can do it safely. I'm sure that someone else will ahve better advice than me, but these are the guesses I can make from fixing my own board with basically the same architecture.
Post by: aya3154 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 09:53:27
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 May 2018, 11:19:28
Wish I got into KBs a year back.. but looking forward is there any projection for when the Raven might be happening here?
no
Post by: aya3154 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 12:07:42
Wish I got into KBs a year back.. but looking forward is there any projection for when the Raven might be happening here?
no
:-X
gonna keep an eye out for it then :eek:
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 05 June 2018, 18:01:55
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95953.0
Post by: mdlt97 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:28:44
Post by: romevi on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:53:41
Post by: Etherealsound on Fri, 10 August 2018, 09:19:01
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 12 August 2018, 11:20:42
Has there been any indication of a viper/eagle v3? Maybe it will be run with the Raven?
No
Post by: anthorix on Thu, 16 August 2018, 18:27:55
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 August 2018, 19:27:47
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QOU6pN8.jpg)
orange films are a nice touch
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 30 October 2018, 03:43:30
(http://i.imgur.com/yt0B3xN.jpg) (https://imgur.com/yt0B3xN)
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 25 July 2019, 17:11:19
Post by: vaughno on Wed, 02 October 2019, 17:15:49
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 02 October 2019, 18:20:18
Any indication of an eagle v3 or another run for the eagle?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
so, duck has said he doesn't want to do it again, but he's running v3s in the same sequence that he ran v2s, so wait and see what happens after octagon v3
i have heard nothing confirming or denying
Post by: vaughno on Wed, 02 October 2019, 18:21:41
Any indication of an eagle v3 or another run for the eagle?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
so, duck has said he doesn't want to do it again, but he's running v3s in the same sequence that he ran v2s, so wait and see what happens after octagon v3
i have heard nothing confirming or denying
Thank you
Post by: Etherealsound on Wed, 02 October 2019, 21:02:43
Post by: Visionaire on Wed, 04 December 2019, 08:39:23
(https://media.giphy.com/media/TBIdgpDxfV9eM/giphy.gif)
(https://imgur.com/lSPNnfF.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/CIRQTEh.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/OvsE72s.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/2Nm1Fb5.jpg)
Post by: vaughno on Wed, 04 December 2019, 08:42:33
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Post by: jtrussell on Wed, 04 December 2019, 18:15:57
Post by: rychaithescienceguy on Tue, 14 January 2020, 01:04:13
Post by: Seoulcialite on Tue, 14 January 2020, 12:07:16
Does anyone know when the v3 will be live? Sorry, I'm new to the community.
Domestic (Korea) GB for Viper/Eagle v3 happened last month. If the time span between domestic GB and Geekhack GB for the last Octagon is any indication, an international GB may be in February or March.
Post by: ranker on Thu, 16 January 2020, 04:35:04
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 16 January 2020, 11:37:53
Is 3 happening?
already happened
Post by: i_tekneek on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:46:00
Post by: merlin64 on Sun, 08 March 2020, 20:36:59
Post by: i_tekneek on Tue, 10 March 2020, 12:25:15
https://www.reddit.com/r/DuckKeyboard/comments/fg8u4d/programming_your_duck_keyboard/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share