Duck Black Bird Kustom Group Buy

[kenshinjeff]

Paid, thanks again Elton!

[Jokrik]

I thought I'm gonna be the first to post "Paid" T_T

[Butter]

Paid!!

[megaforce]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

[elton5354]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.

[m1kehonch0]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.

I second this!


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[Spopepro]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.

I second this!


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By all means, ask, but most places won't do it. Anodizing is done as part of the finishing process, so pulling some out of the workflow is extra labor. The other option is to not finish at all after machining. That's not usually done either because pieces directly out of machining do not look good. And no matter how many assurances you have from a client that "I know the risks, I don't care how it comes out" inevitably someone will balk and say that it wasn't what they expected/paid for.

[breitling]

Paid! kind of wondering if i should have gotten black instead of silver though... since its a Black Bird, not a Silver Bird.

[boo]

Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum

[Spopepro]

Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum

Short answer: no.

Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process.  Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.

[boo]

Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum

Short answer: no.

Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process.  Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.

Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.

[Spopepro]

Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum

Short answer: no.

Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process.  Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.

Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.

I have no authoritative knowledge of it, but I strongly suspect keyboards engineered to meet a retail price point* will have mild steel plates that are punched and coated. I find it hard to believe anyone would bother putting a nice stainless plate in a plastic case. It is still troubling that you would have rust spots, which I would not expect unless the keyboard was a spill victim, you live on a boat, the surface was damaged, or there was a manufacturing defect.



*the nice way to say "cheap"

[boo]

Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum

Short answer: no.

Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process.  Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.

Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.

I have no authoritative knowledge of it, but I strongly suspect keyboards engineered to meet a retail price point* will have mild steel plates that are punched and coated. I find it hard to believe anyone would bother putting a nice stainless plate in a plastic case. It is still troubling that you would have rust spots, which I would not expect unless the keyboard was a spill victim, you live on a boat, the surface was damaged, or there was a manufacturing defect.



*the nice way to say "cheap"

Well I live in a dry CA weather here but I do think that the plate is of lower inferior quality in order for the company to have some margins. It isn't the case with Duck tho.

[onmybikedrunk]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Duck has long been known for the quality of his anodized cases... Some might even say they're perfect.  This has got to be a first.

[kawasaki161]

Paid, definitely my most expensive KB related purchase ever.

[breitling]

Do Stainless steel plates rust over time? Just wondering if i should change to aluminum

Short answer: no.

Pedantic answer: they can under certain conditions. Stainless is very resistant to oxidation, but is not rust proof. Different alloys have different levels of resistance. Environment plays a large part, as moisture and salts can accelerate the process.  Realistically, unless you are typing on the beach in salt spray all day long you're unlikely to have oxidation for as long as keyboards are used as an interface. Generally all quality steel alloys are very stable. I don't have any oxidation on my not-even-remotely-stainless kitchen knives and all I do is wipe them down after use.

Ah the reason why I ask is because my "cheap" das keyboard is seeing rust on its plate so was wondering if that will happen with kustoms.

I have no authoritative knowledge of it, but I strongly suspect keyboards engineered to meet a retail price point* will have mild steel plates that are punched and coated. I find it hard to believe anyone would bother putting a nice stainless plate in a plastic case. It is still troubling that you would have rust spots, which I would not expect unless the keyboard was a spill victim, you live on a boat, the surface was damaged, or there was a manufacturing defect.



*the nice way to say "cheap"

Well I live in a dry CA weather here but I do think that the plate is of lower inferior quality in order for the company to have some margins. It isn't the case with Duck tho.

yes, the das plates are not stainless steel, which is why they oxidize over time. they are coated in black in order to reduce it, but it still happens.

[Waateva]

Elton, do you how the second batch of 30 will be handled in regards to the timeline?  Will they be made simultaneously with the first batch or will they be made X weeks/months after the first batch has been finished?

[brighenne]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.

Also interested in the answer to this one.

[brighenne]

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Well, if you do want that, it can be an option..lol I'll ask.

Also interested in the answer to this one.

Hmm do we have the option of not getting our cases anodized?

Duck has long been known for the quality of his anodized cases... Some might even say they're perfect.  This has got to be a first.

If all you want is a solid dust color, sure. But there is a lot of cool stuff you can do with anodizing beyond that. Plus, a lot of folks don't like black or silver.

edit- oops meant to edit not quote..

[duzeyao]

Paid. Waiting for the board. 

[onmybikedrunk]

Paid, definitely my most expensive KB related purchase ever.

Get what you pay for... You're gonna love it!

[maximm]

Got to the conclusion that since im building an ISO layout the extra PCB/Plate option would be good to allow an ANSI build if the time comes.

[elton5354]

Sorry, non-anodized case is not offered..

I'll invoice the rest tonight. If you have any changes, please tell me before paying the invoice!

[tuco]

Paid! Thanks elton5354!

[TTR]

Paid. Thank you, elton. Just curious about the estimated shipping time for batch 2...

[baotung]

paid.

[brighenne]

Also paid.

[Chedda7]

Do the two rounds run back to back or at the same time?

[gnarlsagan]

Paid!

So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?

[m1kehonch0]

Paid!

So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?

I'm planning either Skidata+ or Skeletor.


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[jal]

Paid.

Caps-wise, I have the MD carbons coming, which will at least do a modeling session on the board. But I'm thinking black on blacks (I ordered the board in all black) are going to be appropriate - this thing just screams low-profile monochrome. At least to the extent that screams can be low-profile.

[gnarlsagan]

Paid.

Caps-wise, I have the MD carbons coming, which will at least do a modeling session on the board. But I'm thinking black on blacks (I ordered the board in all black) are going to be appropriate - this thing just screams low-profile monochrome. At least to the extent that screams can be low-profile.

Completely agree. I'm thinking either all white or all black round 6, or a mix of white and black. Too bad I blew it and didn't order a numpad.

[Waateva]

Paid!

So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?

SKIDATA+ is the current plan, but that is always subject to change.

[yicaoyimu]

Paid!

So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?

WoB is my favorite. So either that, or Dolch.

[wodan]

Carbon, hopefully with an international kit.

Maybe some Cherry Dyesubs until that arrives. Aiming for a classic look here.

[Hexterdude]

Paid as well!

Paid!

So what caps are you guys putting on your Black Birds?

Gonna rock the skull squadron dsa on it

[alveeno]

Paid! Also wondering about second batch

[maximm]

Help me out here. I cant decide if i want to go black/silver or black/black.

The Black/Silver looks so good without the RGB lightning, but the black/black looks best with it. How can it be so hard to decide!

[elton5354]

Paid. Thank you, elton. Just curious about the estimated shipping time for batch 2...

It's about a month after the 1st batch is shipped.

[Hexterdude]

Whats the estimated shipping date of the first batch? Also how long do you think it will take to arrive in the US?

[m1kehonch0]

PAID! 
 
Thanks again, Elton, for making this happen. I imagine running something like this takes a great deal of personal time, and I appreciate that. Im geeked to get my first "real" custom board!

[boo]

just paid! Thanks!

[Jokrik]

Hi Elton, is there any chance I/we can get the dimension of the board?
I'm planning to make a board sleeve for it and hoping it will be ready before this baby come

[Waateva]

Paid up!  Now to get some soldering equipment

[Pemdas]

Paid! Already have a keyset layout planned for this beast, can't wait

Thank you Elton and Duck!

[raymogi]

Hi Elton, is there any chance I/we can get the dimension of the board?
I'm planning to make a board sleeve for it and hoping it will be ready before this baby come

This.

[onmybikedrunk]

All paid up!  Thanks Elton and Duck!

[maximm]

What happened to the acrylic plate @elton5354? Will it be made?

And to those requesting an unanodized case: http://duck0113.tistory.com/90
Its already been made before

[kawasaki161]

What happened to the acrylic plate @elton5354? Will it be made?

He told me in a PM that there won't be acrylic plates (he said he also wished they were available).


In case anyone wants to know this: it is also not possible to add only a PCB, just a combo of plate and PCB

[maximm]

Why wont there be acrylic plates? Could we get WKL or SPRiT to help us run a GB for them?