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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: dante on Fri, 27 September 2013, 18:10:23
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So what is this Group Buy about?
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104 ANSI Blank/Unprinted Black Cherry Profile POM keycaps!
1) Unlike Cherry G80-3000/DAS 2 all the keys will fit on your Filco compatible keyboard (modifiers + spacebar)
2) Unlike Noppoo/Keycool these are Cherry (lower) profile, not OEM.
3) No Tsangan Sorry :confused:
LENGTH OF GB:
The factory minimum order is 200 sets. This GB will remain in effect until this quantity is met.
COST:
$29 / set.
SHIPPING COST:
TBD; However, I will ship worldwide if you know what you're getting your wallet into. Take a look at the other GB's originating from the US to get a feel for how much it will run.
WHEN WILL I SEE MY KEYCAPS?
Depends on when we meet MOQ. Figure 2-3 months after I submit factory order.
HOW DO I ORDER?
Send me a PM including your Name, Address, Paypal Email address (not used until invoicing), and Qty desired.
Example:
Sample A. Sample
123 Any Street
Anytown, XY 12345
Sample@Sample.com
x2
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Total Ordered:
userid,qty
dante,10
goobus,3
Glenn315,1
ijprest,2
t2russo,1
dorkvader,1
TheSoulhunter,5
norbauer,2
lewi,2
PuddLeif.1
AKIMbO,1
cgbuen,1
swill,1
RickyJ,1
gigibecali,1
badboybry9000,5
durandalx,1
tbc,2
KennyR,1
zoolzoo,1
asura,3
154 sets to go...
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reserved
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very interested ;). The price is quite cheap :))
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Definitely interested.
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Why do the caps lock and left shift key look out of whack?
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Why do the caps lock and left shift key look out of whack?
That isn't a real keyboard; it's a placeholder for caps based off the G80-3700.
The caps lock will look fine on a standard keyboard.
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YGPM! :)
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PMed for 2. I'm generally not a fan of blank sets, but these are pretty cheap, and I want to try POM. :)
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Will this fit das keyboard ?
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Will this fit das keyboard ?
It will not completely fit the DAS 2. But it will fit DAS 3 keyboards before they went with a new OEM.
Rule of thumb: If a set of Filco keycaps will fit your board - so will this.
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Will this fit das keyboard ?
I think not suite :(
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Holy **** yes. In for 1.
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Will this fit das keyboard ?
It will not completely fit the DAS 2. But it will fit DAS 3 keyboards before they went with a new OEM.
Rule of thumb: If a set of Filco keycaps will fit your board - so will this.
what I have is "Das Keyboard DASK3PROMS1-CO Professional Model S Mechanical Keyboard", I bought it on woots about a month ago. I think it's a 3rd edition before Das changed the OEM.
Also, here's a link http://tech.woot.com/offers/professional-model-s-mechanical-keyboard
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I'm in for one set for sure!
the biggest tissue for me is that they are blank (and no scoops on U / H) but POM is excellnt and I am excited to have more (and to allow my DAS II set to work on another keyboard more easily.)
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Does it work with BlacKWidow Ultimate. And you shipped out of US? Or are you in Asia?
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Does it work with BlacKWidow Ultimate. And you shipped out of US? Or are you in Asia?
Research to see if Filco works on your keyboard. I can't possibly own every keyboard out there :D
I ship out of the US.
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You are right. I need to do some homework!!
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In for 5 (we need to reach that MOQ eh?) :)
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Where are u located at?
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Where are u located at?
US
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No 1.5 mods, 7x space bar or center stem'd capslock included?
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No 1.5 mods, 7x space bar or center stem'd capslock included?
And no ISO either. Sorry :( To a degree POM seems to be going away in favor of PBT and the molds just aren't there at this factory.
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Oh This set only have center capslock key, don't have center-off capslock key?
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Oh This set only have center capslock key, don't have center-off capslock key?
No. This is Filco only style.
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Guys please read the OP: This set only works on the Filco "standard" boards. This isn't the typical PBT set that includes a Cherry G80-3000 capslock.
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Guys please read the OP: This set only works on the Filco "standard" boards. This isn't the typical PBT set that includes a Cherry G80-3000 capslock.
Yeah I see. Thanks :)
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Hi Dante
Pls add tsanngan kit for this keyset .
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Hell yes. Black pom! F & J have nubs right?
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Does it work with BlacKWidow Ultimate
Nope.
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Hi Dante
Pls add tsanngan kit for this keyset .
Dante said this is only filco style. He can't have tsagankit. Sorry because i bring bad info to you :(
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Hi Dante
Pls add tsanngan kit for this keyset .
Dante said this is only filco style. He can't have tsagankit. Sorry because i bring bad info to you :(
Hi My friend
I understand but i hope he add more ops for our
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Hell yes. Black pom! F & J have nubs right?
You mean where they are cupped? Unfortunately not. You do get the traditional little lines to let you know where the keys are.
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Regarding Tsangan: Nope.
Sorry, this is not Signature Plastics :))
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Regarding Tsangan: Nope.
Sure, dante. More people wanna have pom keyset for cherry keyboard winkeyless, korea custom keybooard ....
If they can do it, please add option for this GB. Thanks ;)
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Guys, POM keycaps are very hard to find. Don't hate on dante because he can't get nonstandard keycap sizes.
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Guys, POM keycaps are very hard to find. Don't hate on dante because he can't get nonstandard keycap sizes.
Yeah of coure. I only hope that ;)
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The keycaps looks thick on the picture, but can you confirm they are thick?
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Wow, those actually look like they were done with Cherry molds rather than some DCS or other Cherry lookalike molds. I am very curious as to what company it is that makes these, although I guess you don't want to reveal that? I don't care as much about the thickness as I do about the accuracy of the shape. Whoever it is, they nailed it, or got hold of some of Cherry's tooling.
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Do they come on the red plastic holder like shown?
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Whats the difference between this and the banggood pom? besides one is 104 set. is the bang good stuff OEM?
Couldn't get side print after all?
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Whats the difference between this and the banggood pom?
that stuff seems really legit.
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The keycaps looks thick on the picture, but can you confirm they are thick?
Will do. The 'middle man' in China has the first test set. I'll see if he can post some pictures versus some other keycap types.
Wow, those actually look like they were done with Cherry molds rather than some DCS or other Cherry lookalike molds. I am very curious as to what company it is that makes these, although I guess you don't want to reveal that? I don't care as much about the thickness as I do about the accuracy of the shape. Whoever it is, they nailed it, or got hold of some of Cherry's tooling.
I don't know the company and honestly I probably should. However the person handling this transaction is highly trustworthy. I do not think he would go with them if he didn't feel good about it. I'll reach out and see if he can reveal the name of the factory.
Whats the difference between this and the banggood pom? besides one is 104 set. is the bang good stuff OEM?
Couldn't get side print after all?
The banggood pom is OEM profile; these are Cherry. I still have to verify but I believe these will be thicker than Keycool. I believe the reason why side print wasn't possible is because the factory doesn't have the equipment to handle it.
Do they come on the red plastic holder like shown?
No - that was just to display them and make them look sexier :) Unfortunately that capslock shot is causing more concern than it should.
I will try to get the answers that everyone is looking for but please realize that the "middle man" has a family and life outside of Geekhack. I want to tell everyone who they are but I do not want to clog up their PM box with 30 versions of the same questions. If anyone feels this GB feels a bit shady then elect a high ranking moderator to PM me and I'll reveal my source and they can stealthily verify everything is legit. I originally put a request in for this product back in April and it has taken this long to get a test set made. Like most GB's GH'ers orders are an extremely small percentage of a companies business so I'm not trying to rock any boats.
I will also inquire again about a Tsangan set. I'm a 110% certain it's not possible but if it is prepare to dig deep in your wallet (which you custom Korean keyboard owners seem to have no problems with :) )
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I have not had the chance to compare a cherry keycap with an oem. Is it just my imagination, or is the face of the cherry larger in comparison with oem? It looks like the face is larger and the sides are more vertical, but that could just be my eyes playing tricks on me. I know the the height of the cherry key is not as tall as an oem (in general, imsto's thick pbts are an exception). Maybe because the keycap is not as tall, the face looks bigger (or is bigger)?
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Question... Color options?
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
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I have not had the chance to compare a cherry keycap with an oem. Is it just my imagination, or is the face of the cherry larger in comparison with oem? It looks like the face is larger and the sides are more vertical, but that could just be my eyes playing tricks on me. I know the the height of the cherry key is not as tall as an oem (in general, imsto's thick pbts are an exception). Maybe because the keycap is not as tall, the face looks bigger (or is bigger)?
The difference to OEM is quite large. What makes these special is that they are Cherry profile rather than DCS or some imitation. If you look at the radii, you'll see that it goes from round at the top to a sharp corner at the bottom. This is something that I have so far only seen in Cherry caps and what makes them look so much better when mounted imo.
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I cant speak for Cherry/GMK caps but I just compared a SP DCS cap to a QFR OEM cap and the oem cap had a slightly bigger face, only talking a combined 1mm at the most, probably less.
I might get in on this, thanks for the answers.
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Black is not a color ... :p
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Pretty close to Mr Henry Ford!
Very interested to try POM, and the price is nice. Not sure about going blank yet though.
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Pretty close to Mr Henry Ford!
Very interested to try POM, and the price is nice. Not sure about going blank yet though.
Haha, that is my only concern as well, but I am buying a set anyway. If I turns out I love them, it will totally be worth the $30. If not, I am sure they will have resale value because they are not very common. Thats my MOQ pitch... :)
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True enough! Joined for 1x. :)
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I wonder how the lack of nubs on f and j affect touch typing? Has anyone tried this before?
Edit: gg reading comprehension nvm!
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I wonder how the lack of nubs on f and j affect touch typing? Has anyone tried this before?
Edit: gg reading comprehension nvm!
Lol...nubs vs nipples. Know your keycap genitalia!
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Black is not a color ... :p
black is all colors put together haha ;)
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Black is not a color ... :p
black is all colors put together haha ;)
No that's white (well in physics at least). Black is the absence of colors. Go back to elementary school ray :p
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Black is not a color ... :p
black is all colors put together haha ;)
No that's white (well in physics at least). Black is the absence of colors. Go back to elementary school ray :p
Believe it or not I didn't listen all that well and I always got in trouble for talking :(
Now my kid who just started kindergarten does the same exact thing!
Besides if I take a white piece of paper and take a box of crayons and just start coloring eventually it'll be black :thumb:
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Do POM caps develop greasy shine from skin oils? In another thread someone was having this problem http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48563.msg1059479#msg1059479
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Do POM caps develop greasy shine from skin oils? In another thread someone was having this problem http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48563.msg1059479#msg1059479
If you read the whole thread there was someone who had a set that didn't shine after a whole year.
I'm going to give it another day or two before pestering for photos. I don't want to be a pain in the ass.
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Do POM caps develop greasy shine from skin oils? In another thread someone was having this problem http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48563.msg1059479#msg1059479
If you read the whole thread there was someone who had a set that didn't shine after a whole year.
I'm going to give it another day or two before pestering for photos. I don't want to be a pain in the ass.
black will shine for sure.. it's a matter of time..
with light colors the shine will be less obvious, so they'd be "arguably" aesthetically more durable against "wear"
Do they offer any other color?
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I don't know if they offer any other color.
Still waiting on keycap comparison pics and factory info.
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sign me up for two sets please
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sign me up for two sets please
read op
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with light colors the shine will be less obvious, [...]
Not true at all.
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Still waiting on my contact to log in and read their mail ... absolutely MY fault for not requesting a test set. I still have confidence that they know a good product when they see it.
Almost at the 25% mark. I'm hoping new photos / factory info will bring new buyers.
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The factory that is manufacturing these keycaps is PLUM.
Still waiting on comparison photos...
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update:
still waiting on photos. asked my contact to sell me the test set he had so I can take photos - but alas he lent it out ...
sent an email to a large vendor seeing if they could help out with some orders - waiting to hear back sometime this week.
I wish I had the cash to buy 200 sets and dump them on ebay but I don't...
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BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
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I am interested in blanks, not side printed. I have not ordered yet but will probably quite soon. I think that blanks are more easily used "anywhere" and are more interesting in many different scenarios.
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BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
I may be interested if there is side printed like the Filco Ninja!
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BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
I may be interested if there is side printed like the Filco Ninja!
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also going to beg the factory to lower the moq to 100 sets
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nice...I'm in. ygpm
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BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
I would actually prefer side printed (personally). So my order would remain the same.
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are you saying that there will likely not be blanks at all?
or are you saying that we get get blanks @ 200 sets OR (with negotiation) side-print @100?
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I am tentatively in for 5 sets. Will confirm in near future. If side printed keycaps, maybe 5-10 sets.
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Three sets - unprinted.
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Three sets - unprinted.
read OP
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are you saying that there will likely not be blanks at all?
or are you saying that we get get blanks @ 200 sets OR (with negotiation) side-print @100?
I'm saying for now the original GB is in place. I was just curious at getting peoples thoughts if it WERE possible which at this moment doesn't look to be the case.
As of now it's 200moq / blank. I am AM trying to change it but takes 24 hours to get an answer.
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Black is not a color ... :p
black is all colors put together haha ;)
No that's white (well in physics at least). Black is the absence of colors. Go back to elementary school ray :p
Absence of light, but that's for vision, for paint/dye it can be a color...
Black markers for example often use very very dark brown or purple (thinning with water/solvent reveals that)
Just wanted to join the nitpicking :D
Btw, I just remembered my rage when they asked for the 3 base colors in "Who wants to be a Millionaire"
and the right answer was "RYB" (paint/art) and "RGB" (vision/physics) was wrong, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?
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Question... Color options?
Do you see options for colors in the OP?
You can have any colour you want, provided that the colour you want is black.
Black is not a color ... :p
black is all colors put together haha ;)
No that's white (well in physics at least). Black is the absence of colors. Go back to elementary school ray :p
Absence of light, but that's for vision, for paint/dye it can be a color...
Black markers for example often use very very dark brown or purple (thinning with water/solvent reveals that)
Just wanted to join the nitpicking :D
Btw, I just remembered my rage when they asked for the 3 base colors in "Who wants to be a Millionaire"
and the right answer was "RYB" (paint/art) and "RGB" (vision/physics) was wrong, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?
Yea, well that's why I was specifying it was so in physics since colors are different if you look at them from a chemist or physic point of view. Tricky question if you don't specify which aspect you consider. And yea, for sure that all blacks are not "pure black" since by definition could be said "the absence of light" or "which does not reflect light" and it's quite impossible to get with paint. But if you ain't being picky like that, then black is black. It's just that I've been told too often in my life that black and white where not colors that I could not resist pointing it out! Sorry for the change of topic!
Yet these POM keys are so tempting. At this price, it's hard to pass trying POM and at worst, if I don't like the feel that much, well they are still thick and cherry profile and can be used to fill in some custom layouts! I need to take the time to send Dante a pm today... :cool:
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BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
I would actually like side printed better. Im staying in either way though.
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BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
I would actually like side printed better. Im staying in either way though.
BTW: How many of you would bail or suddenly become interested if we changed to side printed keycaps?
I would actually like side printed better. Im staying in either way though.
Staying in either way, but prefer blank. What would the incremental cost be? Also laser etched or pad?
Could we have a poll? (Is there a poll function?)
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I'll be closing this over the weekend. Orders have hit a brick wall and my contact is unable to come up with comparison photos.
So between not coming close to meeting MOQ and photos taking forever I don't see this GB surviving.
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That's a shame.
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It really is a shame. These keycaps look so beautiful. I guess I'll have to try finding some other POM set.
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bummer....
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I'll be closing this over the weekend. Orders have hit a brick wall and my contact is unable to come up with comparison photos.
So between not coming close to meeting MOQ and photos taking forever I don't see this GB surviving.
Oh man, how disappointing. I was looking forward to this more than any other key set ever—seriously. :(