Author Topic: [IC] LZ : PhysiX (Ergo) (Read 334317 times)

Mr_BeastQuake · « **Reply #100 on:** Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:19:08 »

Quote from: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:03:20

Arrows without a spacer already work great on 65% and 75% keyboards.
Separate arrow cluster has already been done on the EM.7 and a couple of others.
Alice doesn't have arrows at all.
The Alice clones with arrows all look like the EM.7.
None of the ergo boards have an arrow cluster like this one.

I know those other keyboards are hard to get, but lets not turn this into a substitute.
I want a new LZ keyboard, not a clone of the Alice or EM.7.

I agree, a function row would be a welcomed addition.

MajorKoos · « **Reply #101 on:** Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:48:40 »

Quote from: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:19:08

... a function row would be a welcomed addition.

So it's more of an ergo 75% than an ergo 65%?
I'm not 100% against the idea, but think the FN row is going to be a bit of a stretch (it already is on my LZ Ergo).

yuppie · « **Reply #102 on:** Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:55:45 »

I'm in.

Vadurr · « **Reply #103 on:** Wed, 21 August 2019, 19:16:38 »

Crossing fingers for this to not get any bigger than a 65%

Mr_BeastQuake · « **Reply #104 on:** Wed, 21 August 2019, 19:46:11 »

Quote from: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:48:40

So it's more of an ergo 75% than an ergo 65%?
I'm not 100% against the idea, but think the FN row is going to be a bit of a stretch (it already is on my LZ Ergo).

I play a game that is a PITA to remap keys for and the F row serves a purpose. Just figured if we were trying to get away from EM.7 and Alice that this would be a way to go.

LZ Ergo is a good looking board, trimming up the right hand side a bit would be a nice revision.

nycxandy · « **Reply #105 on:** Wed, 21 August 2019, 20:06:15 »

99% in.

nathanchere · « **Reply #106 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 06:14:10 »

Quote from: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:04:53

Quote from: wholypantalones on Wed, 21 August 2019, 13:44:40
Quote from: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:03:20
Arrows without a spacer already work great on 65% and 75% keyboards.
Separate arrow cluster has already been done on the EM.7 and a couple of others.
Alice doesn't have arrows at all.
The Alice clones with arrows all look like the EM.7.
None of the ergo boards have an arrow cluster like this one.

I know those other keyboards are hard to get, but lets not turn this into a substitute.
I want a new LZ keyboard, not a clone of the Alice or EM.7.

*slow clap* this please.
*joins in*

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*clapping intensifies*

jani80k · « **Reply #107 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 07:08:05 »

I like the idea it has arrow keys and I like the idea that it's LZ.

Nigolski · « **Reply #108 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 13:48:42 »

I'M IN

dubious · « **Reply #109 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 14:10:28 »

Hi LZ!

I like the new layout, but I really liked the original LZ-ergo split, more than the the EM.7 / alice layout. I'm curious why you went with the new layout, instead of the original design? Do you feel like it is more comfortable to type on?

MajorKoos · « **Reply #110 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 14:36:32 »

Quote from: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 21 August 2019, 19:46:11

Quote from: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:48:40
So it's more of an ergo 75% than an ergo 65%?
I'm not 100% against the idea, but think the FN row is going to be a bit of a stretch (it already is on my LZ Ergo).

I play a game that is a PITA to remap keys for and the F row serves a purpose. Just figured if we were trying to get away from EM.7 and Alice that this would be a way to go.

LZ Ergo is a good looking board, trimming up the right hand side a bit would be a nice revision.

Yeah, the Ergo is quite wide

Wider than a TKL by a fair bit.
Bringing in the arrow cluster like this is a welcome change for me.
It's not that the arrow keys or nav cluster are hard to reach - quite the opposite, the layout is awesome - but because of the width the mouse gets pushed quite far to the side.
In contrast the arrow keys on my EM.7 feel like they're too low so I'm all in favor of not repeating that design choice.
I'm expecting this to come out around the same width as a TKL like the EM.7 is.

sickleboom · « **Reply #111 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 15:06:01 »

Looks dope!

tectonicplate · « **Reply #112 on:** Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:14:04 »

Very nice, definitely prefer the arrow keys touching and connected.

whitty · « **Reply #113 on:** Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:14:43 »

Quote from: dsw_408 on Fri, 16 August 2019, 02:40:49

Staggered arrows, 8 degree typing angle(or less), and 20mm front height(or less), pls

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I changed my mind on the staggered arrows, I much prefer the arrows connected. But still +1 for the other 2 things

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LifeZ · « **Reply #114 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 02:21:13 »

Lay-out Vote.

https://forms.gle/mnsheeivdX5DZRCLA

Length reference (LZ MP : 360mm X 139mm)

King4477 · « **Reply #115 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 02:30:29 »

Quote from: LifeZ on Sat, 24 August 2019, 02:21:13

Lay-out Vote.

(Attachment Link)

https://forms.gle/mnsheeivdX5DZRCLA

Length reference (LZ MP : 360mm X 139mm)

1

superdoedoe · « **Reply #116 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 04:18:39 »

Why not a LZ-Ergo v2

Take the best of Alice layout and put it into the Lz-Ergo 2.0 i.e PhysiX

iEatPuppers · « **Reply #117 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 04:32:28 »

Quote from: superdoedoe on Sat, 24 August 2019, 04:18:39

Why not a LZ-Ergo v2

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Take the best of Alice layout and put it into the Lz-Ergo 2.0 i.e PhysiX

I like this. If arrows keys are there, then you might as well include the whole nav cluster.

WHeisenberg · « **Reply #118 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 05:21:34 »

I prefer #1, but would be keen on any of the suggested variants! Any idea about a rough timeline?

jackedhardwarejunkie · « **Reply #119 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 05:46:12 »

Type 1 for sure, any chance we could get the top bezel to follow the same path as the bottom and shorten it a bit? So would be type 1 but with a bezel similar to lz ergo. If that makes sense.

architones · « **Reply #120 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 08:08:34 »

My vote is on Type 1. I would prefer the board to be the most compact out of all the options given.

eyedrop · « **Reply #121 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 08:31:21 »

What a tease, filled out the layout vote form and at the end it says "Order complete"

dallman5 · « **Reply #122 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 09:08:58 »

Definitely layout 1. 2.75u right shift is not space efficient enough for a 65%-ish board, IMO

MajorKoos · « **Reply #123 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 10:02:38 »

Type 1 for me as well. Looks awesome.

Remsky · « **Reply #124 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 10:44:42 »

Type 1

pro_driver · « **Reply #125 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 12:15:05 »

Type 1

Full · « **Reply #126 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 12:16:35 »

Yeah, Type1 definitely

pixelpusher · « **Reply #127 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 12:24:47 »

I'd say layout 1 just because it is the most compact, a feature that I appreciate.

bthezebra · « **Reply #128 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 13:04:41 »

Out of those definitely type 1

Jedi · « **Reply #129 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 14:17:44 »

I think we all need to fill out the form to help LZ tabulate the responses no?
https://forms.gle/mnsheeivdX5DZRCLA

Although I wish (and I'm sure it'l never happen) but IF superdoedoe's suggestion was to actually make it to GB, I would totally prefer it.

poolside · « **Reply #130 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 17:00:22 »

Back to type 1. Form has been filled.

scoopbb · « **Reply #131 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 17:42:31 »

Rumblehotep · « **Reply #132 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 19:27:31 »

Type 1 for sure

wholypantalones · « **Reply #133 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 19:59:46 »

fill out the form.

whitty · « **Reply #134 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 20:18:39 »

If you don’t pick type 1, you’re wrong. Sorry

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Mr_BeastQuake · « **Reply #135 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 21:53:54 »

Quote from: Jedi on Sat, 24 August 2019, 14:17:44

Although I wish (and I'm sure it'l never happen) but IF superdoedoe's suggestion was to actually make it to GB, I would totally prefer it.

I'm sure at some point it will, LZ just likes to do new things.

I'll be lurking until then.

rmendis · « **Reply #136 on:** Sat, 24 August 2019, 21:59:22 »

Quote from: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:03:20

Arrows without a spacer already work great on 65% and 75% keyboards.
Separate arrow cluster has already been done on the EM.7 and a couple of others.
Alice doesn't have arrows at all.
The Alice clones with arrows all look like the EM.7.
None of the ergo boards have an arrow cluster like this one.

I know those other keyboards are hard to get, but lets not turn this into a substitute.
I want a new LZ keyboard, not a clone of the Alice or EM.7.

Well said

Vadurr · « **Reply #137 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 01:18:10 »

type1crew

EMC Labs · « **Reply #138 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 03:02:35 »

No. 1

nycxandy · « **Reply #139 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 03:37:13 »

zoois · « **Reply #140 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 05:20:01 »

Type 3

AndrewJanssen · « **Reply #141 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 09:57:22 »

gorbachev · « **Reply #142 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 20:22:30 »

Quote from: superdoedoe on Sat, 24 August 2019, 04:18:39

Why not a LZ-Ergo v2

My vote would also be for LZ-Ergo v2. The new layouts look like compromises to me.

Personally I don't care about the function row, function keys are really not a bother on a different layer using the number keys, but the change in the angle of keys midway through the layout is definitely not optimal.

I appreciate the fact that LifeZ may want to do something different than with prior designs, but with 10000000 Alice clones coming out of the woodwork, me thinks not doing something that looks almost exactly like an Alice would be preferable.

kiyoboard · « **Reply #143 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 20:34:59 »

+1 for LZ Ergo v2. I like to have arrows and F keys. Alice layout TKL would be perfect.

yuppie · « **Reply #144 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 20:38:20 »

Kokaloo · « **Reply #145 on:** Sun, 25 August 2019, 21:09:14 »

Left side 2×10 macro batch was too silly?

skrunk · « **Reply #146 on:** Mon, 26 August 2019, 03:20:56 »

Type 1 looks really nice! Looking forward for more updates.

futurecrime · « **Reply #147 on:** Tue, 27 August 2019, 09:45:50 »

Quote from: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:04:53

Quote from: wholypantalones on Wed, 21 August 2019, 13:44:40
Quote from: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:03:20
Arrows without a spacer already work great on 65% and 75% keyboards.
Separate arrow cluster has already been done on the EM.7 and a couple of others.
Alice doesn't have arrows at all.
The Alice clones with arrows all look like the EM.7.
None of the ergo boards have an arrow cluster like this one.

I know those other keyboards are hard to get, but lets not turn this into a substitute.
I want a new LZ keyboard, not a clone of the Alice or EM.7.

*slow clap* this please.
*joins in*

Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk

*claps and nods*

LifeZ · « **Reply #148 on:** Tue, 27 August 2019, 19:03:12 »

122 votes

jackedhardwarejunkie · « **Reply #149 on:** Tue, 27 August 2019, 21:24:34 »

Quote from: LifeZ on Tue, 27 August 2019, 19:03:12

122 votes
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The best one

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Author Topic: [IC] LZ : PhysiX (Ergo) (Read 334317 times)