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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #250 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 15:14:46 »
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Yeah, similar issue here.

Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>

was having the same issue. Re-tighten all 4 of those rubbers screws on the back to about the same tightness. If one screw is looser than the other 3 it'll wobble a little. Re-tightened mine, solid as a rock now.

Problem with mine is one wont screw in all the way now, tried rethreading it, but I think theres something wrong with the screw hole now. But the problem is negligible now, just added a thin layer of take to one of the rubber feet. works fine now. Im so happy with it ^.^
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #251 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07 »
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?

I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide.  Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already.  :)
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #252 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:05:26 »
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?

I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide.  Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already.  :)

I assume yes because there is room for them.

I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #253 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:07:53 »
Quote from: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:05:26
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?

I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide.  Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already.  :)

I assume yes because there is room for them.

I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.

Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #254 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:25:00 »
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:07:53
Quote from: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:05:26
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?

I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide.  Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already.  :)

I assume yes because there is room for them.

I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.

Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_tune&document_srl=3216765
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #255 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:54:41 »
Not sure if i missed, but were there instructions for assembling the tented stand? I feel like I'm trying to put legos together without documentation haha. Also, same question with the lock leds. Any suggestions for resistors for the locks?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #256 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:15:12 »
Quote from: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:25:00
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:07:53
Quote from: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:05:26
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?

I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide.  Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already.  :)

I assume yes because there is room for them.

I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.

Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_tune&document_srl=3216765

Thanks. Much better photos there. I can clearly see the resistors.

I didn't have SMD resistors for my chosen LEDs so I just cut the legs short on a few thru-hole resistors and everything is working fine. The lock indicators are incredibly bright. :P
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #257 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:29:06 »
Quote from: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:25:00
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:07:53
Quote from: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:05:26
Quote from: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?

I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide.  Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already.  :)

I assume yes because there is room for them.

I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.

Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_tune&document_srl=3216765

Thank you, those pics will be helpful
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #258 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:45:58 »
Quote from: exitfire401 on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:54:41
Not sure if i missed, but were there instructions for assembling the tented stand? I feel like I'm trying to put legos together without documentation haha. Also, same question with the lock leds. Any suggestions for resistors for the locks?

depends on colour but I'd just go 1k
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #259 on: Mon, 26 September 2016, 23:18:51 »
We apologize that didn't describe SMT option specific.
Our recommended resistor is over 330ohm~910ohm depending what LED you use and what bright you prefer :)
It's your choice
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #260 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 01:27:44 »
Finally received my kit.  Now I need to look for instructions on assembling it.  What LED and resistors are you all getting?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #261 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 02:32:40 »
Just got mine too!  I was going to do white/blue lock LEDs with 820/910 resistors respectively.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #262 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 02:40:50 »
So, I just spent an embarrassingly long amount of time (though admittedly, I was trying to do it in between matches of Rocket League) just getting the first half of my tent stand completed. If anyone else needs the instructions, I found them here http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3286770&mid=board_etc (Btw, I only found them after being ridiculously frustrated and not comprehending that there are two end pieces for the brace for the feet.) Happy Building to all! I'll be finishing the last half of the tent stand tomorrow and then it's time to work on the Zealios while I wait for the clear stabs!
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #263 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 04:03:53 »
I looked up aliexpress for 910ohm smd resistors. There seems to have more than 1 type.

  • 0603 910 ohm SMD Resistor 5% 1/10W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
  • 0402 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/16W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
  • 0805 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/8W

Might have more type than what I listed. Any idea which percentage and wattage rating to get?

Thanks
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #264 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 06:54:28 »
Quote from: zefyr on Mon, 26 September 2016, 23:18:51
We apologize that didn't describe SMT option specific.
Our recommended resistor is over 330ohm~910ohm depending what LED you use and what bright you prefer :)
It's your choice

Too late!   :P  Using 100-200 ohm resistors on my lock indicators and they're fine.  There are only 3 of them so they're pulling a negligible current - maybe 50mA total and only when all 3 are lit.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #265 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:14:19 »
Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 06:54:28
Quote from: zefyr on Mon, 26 September 2016, 23:18:51
We apologize that didn't describe SMT option specific.
Our recommended resistor is over 330ohm~910ohm depending what LED you use and what bright you prefer :)
It's your choice

Too late!   :P  Using 100-200 ohm resistors on my lock indicators and they're fine.  There are only 3 of them so they're pulling a negligible current - maybe 50mA total and only when all 3 are lit.
You are right :)
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #266 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:16:22 »
Quote from: krisst on Tue, 27 September 2016, 04:03:53
I looked up aliexpress for 910ohm smd resistors. There seems to have more than 1 type.

  • 0603 910 ohm SMD Resistor 5% 1/10W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
  • 0402 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/16W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
  • 0805 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/8W

Might have more type than what I listed. Any idea which percentage and wattage rating to get?

Thanks
0805 is what Vergo type.T-II uses. 1%/5% means precision which is not a big deal for LED.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #267 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:26:37 »
Should we start a separate thread to centralize all the information and discussion on putting a VE.A together?  E.g. assembly instructions, links to wrist rest, LED and resistor selections, etc?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #268 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42 »
Cross-posting from Massdrop comments...




Sorry for potato quality.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #269 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:25:22 »
BUMP

Added resource page on website.
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_resource
You can download Alps switch mounting plate example.

Note,
We cannot offer mounting plate layout design service. It's almost impossible.
If you are familiar with Alps, you know that already :)

We can offer basic layout only, which is in the example design file.
It uses one Apple Ext (M0115 or M3501) and one Standard (M0116) keysets.

So, please use it only you are familiar with Alps and CAD.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #270 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:30:07 »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #271 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:31:38 »
Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
Cross-posting from Massdrop comments...

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Sorry for potato quality.

Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #272 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:35:09 »
Quote from: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:16:22
Quote from: krisst on Tue, 27 September 2016, 04:03:53
I looked up aliexpress for 910ohm smd resistors. There seems to have more than 1 type.

  • 0603 910 ohm SMD Resistor 5% 1/10W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
  • 0402 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/16W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
  • 0805 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/8W

Might have more type than what I listed. Any idea which percentage and wattage rating to get?

Thanks
0805 is what Vergo type.T-II uses. 1%/5% means precision which is not a big deal for LED.

Alright, will order that. Thank you!

Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
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Sorry for potato quality.

I need a set of sky dolch... Looks great!
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #273 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:36:43 »
Quote from: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:31:38
Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
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Sorry for potato quality.

Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.

 :thumb:  I'm really enjoying it a lot so far.  It wouldn't be possible without your and your team's tireless dedication and attention to detail.  Congrats on an amazing first group buy.  I look forward to seeing what you come up with next.  ;)
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #274 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 14:55:17 »
Quote from: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:31:38
Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
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Sorry for potato quality.

Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.

I cannot get enough of what I am seeing of the VE.A, I so profoundly hope we will see a round 2 of these, exactly the same design, they are perfect. You created an amazing design that was so well realized with a wonderful attention to detail and didn't have to sacrifice style or functionality to any critical level. Love it! Keep the pictures coming guys!!!
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #275 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 17:03:34 »
Quote from: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 September 2016, 14:55:17
Quote from: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:31:38
Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
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Sorry for potato quality.

Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.

I cannot get enough of what I am seeing of the VE.A, I so profoundly hope we will see a round 2 of these, exactly the same design, they are perfect. You created an amazing design that was so well realized with a wonderful attention to detail and didn't have to sacrifice style or functionality to any critical level. Love it! Keep the pictures coming guys!!!

I am hoping for something a little different if OddForge looks to make more projects in the future. There should be extras for sale in the coming weeks.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #276 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 18:05:32 »
Quote from: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
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Sorry for potato quality.

Where did you score those grey blanks for the spacebar, etc? Are they GMK?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #277 on: Tue, 27 September 2016, 18:50:05 »
Quote from: redbanshee on Tue, 27 September 2016, 18:05:32
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Sorry for potato quality.

Where did you score those grey blanks for the spacebar, etc? Are they GMK?

Not sure what he's using, but I have the dark gray blank PBT Gateron set and it matches Sky Dolch pretty perfectly.  Also sorry for potato.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #278 on: Wed, 28 September 2016, 08:25:23 »
Quote from: redbanshee on Tue, 27 September 2016, 18:05:32
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Sorry for potato quality.

Where did you score those grey blanks for the spacebar, etc? Are they GMK?

Same as briannnn above.  They're part of a blank PBT set from Shadovved's group buy.  They match the GMK Sky Dolch set perfectly - row profile, sculpt, color, even material thickness and underside support structure are a perfect match.  The ONLY difference is the side texture.  GMK is smooth/glossy where Gateron/EnjoyPBT is textured/matte.  But you have to get super close to notice.  And of course GMK is ABS vs PBT.  :D
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #279 on: Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:08:04 »
Hi everyone.  Need some help here.  I got the left half one done and it is working fine.  Just finished the right half.  All the keys are working except

H  J  K L :

5 keys in a row are not working.  Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #280 on: Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:26:54 »
Quote from: litster on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:08:04
Hi everyone.  Need some help here.  I got the left half one done and it is working fine.  Just finished the right half.  All the keys are working except

H  J  K L :

5 keys in a row are not working.  Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?

I've had a similar issue, F7-F11 weren't registering. Cleaned my PCB and it was all fine.

No idea as to the real cause, though. HTH
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #281 on: Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:28:21 »
How did you clean it? 
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #282 on: Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:33:05 »
Quote from: zefyr on Mon, 19 September 2016, 00:23:17
Quote from: Vypr on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:35:42
Quote from: krisst on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:32:37
Quote from: Vypr on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:12:13
Looks like I won't be able to build mine until November since I'm waiting on some Zeal parts :(

Yup. Same for me too. Ordered some stabs. Hopefully VE.A package will arrive safely and everything is perfect, PCB is working, etc. Would be good to make sure to test the PCB, check the casing even if you are not building it yet. I think by Nov, any spare VE.A from zefyr might be put up for sale for any interested buyers, not confirm, just my thought.

That is a good point, I'll be sure to do that.

Good point :)
We will save spares for unexpected accident.
And put them on sale after 2~3 weeks later.

Is there an ETA for extras? I missed the GB and I can't get over how beautiful the board looks. I've got to have one! You guys did an amazing job with this.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #283 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 00:29:29 »
Quote from: litster on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:08:04
Hi everyone.  Need some help here.  I got the left half one done and it is working fine.  Just finished the right half.  All the keys are working except

H  J  K L :

5 keys in a row are not working.  Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?

Anyone?  Something is wrong with Column 3, 9 to 13. 

H Col:3 Row:9
J Col:3 Row:10
K Col:3 Row:11
L Col:3 Row:12
: Col:3 Row:13

Anyone?  Zefyr?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #284 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 00:35:33 »
Quote from: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 00:29:29
Quote from: litster on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:08:04
Hi everyone.  Need some help here.  I got the left half one done and it is working fine.  Just finished the right half.  All the keys are working except

H  J  K L :

5 keys in a row are not working.  Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?

Anyone?  Something is wrong with Column 3, 9 to 13. 

H Col:3 Row:9
J Col:3 Row:10
K Col:3 Row:11
L Col:3 Row:12
: Col:3 Row:13

Anyone?  Zefyr?

I've got nothing =( Haven't assembled mine yet
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #285 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 02:15:09 »
Holy ****!  I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it.  I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix. 

I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out.  I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row.  And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;. 



At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle).  I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.   



I am glad I fixed it.  But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...

Can I get a replacement PCB?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #286 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:14:08 »
Quote from: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 02:15:09
Holy ****!  I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it.  I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix. 

I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out.  I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row.  And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;. 

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At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle).  I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.   

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I am glad I fixed it.  But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...

Can I get a replacement PCB?

I have not build my kb yet and checked the area marked in red. There is indeed a connection. I guess the PCB you received do have defects. Does it work now though, with the jumper?

Hope you get replacement if possible.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #287 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:21:27 »
Quote from: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 02:15:09
Holy ****!  I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it.  I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix. 

I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out.  I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row.  And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;. 

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At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle).  I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.   

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I am glad I fixed it.  But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...

Can I get a replacement PCB?

I'd shoot the oddforge team an email. Email address is on the site and zefyr has posted it a page back on the thread as well.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #288 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 12:39:43 »
Just spent about 35 minutes shorting out each of my leads. Everything's good on my board currently.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #291 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 17:24:48 »
Quote from: krisst on Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:14:08
I have not build my kb yet and checked the area marked in red. There is indeed a connection. I guess the PCB you received do have defects. Does it work now though, with the jumper?

Hope you get replacement if possible.

Thanks for checking this on your PCB.  I definitely have a defective PCB.  With jumper it is working.  But the jumper shouldn't be there.  I wonder if there are more defective PCBs shipped to buyers.

Quote from: exitfire401 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:21:27
I'd shoot the oddforge team an email. Email address is on the site and zefyr has posted it a page back on the thread as well.

I will give that a try.  Thanks.

BTW, anyone knows where I can find the keymapper user guide?  The link [http://oddforge.com/product/vea_userguide] on oddforge.com is broken.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #292 on: Sat, 01 October 2016, 23:18:55 »
Quote from: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 17:24:48
BTW, anyone knows where I can find the keymapper user guide?  The link http://oddforge.com/product/vea_userguide on oddforge.com is broken.

Link to the Bootmapper programming guide created by XX7.
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« Reply #293 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 01:23:01 »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #294 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 03:10:12 »
Quote from: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 02:15:09
Holy ****!  I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it.  I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix. 

I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out.  I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row.  And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;. 

Show Image


At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle).  I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.   

Show Image


I am glad I fixed it.  But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...

Can I get a replacement PCB?

Sorry for late response!
I'm gonna check your picture and test it with stock PCB.
And reply as soon as possible!

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #295 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 03:27:07 »
Quote from: zefyr on Sun, 02 October 2016, 03:10:12
Quote from: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 02:15:09
Holy ****!  I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it.  I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix. 

I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out.  I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row.  And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;. 

Show Image


At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle).  I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.   

Show Image


I am glad I fixed it.  But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...

Can I get a replacement PCB?

Sorry for late response!
I'm gonna check your picture and test it with stock PCB.
And reply as soon as possible!

Your fix is correct.
I sent you a PM. :) We can talk about aftercare there.

PS :
Oddforge team is very surprised that you found that disconnection and fixed it by yourself.
We heard about that can happen very rarely, but seen it first time.
We finally know that why this forum is named "geekhack".
Four thumbs up mate-geek.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #296 on: Mon, 03 October 2016, 19:33:41 »
Got in touch with zefyr.  He is going to take care of it.  Thanks zefyr!

Meanwhile, I need a good short spacebar (2.75x?).  That long shift key is hurting my thumb.  I flipped it upside down and it doesn't hurt as much, but it is still a little weird.

Best ergo keyboard ever IMO.  And I have a lot of ergo keyboards.  Love the acrylic tent.  Really well designed.  It is made of acrylic but there is no flex! 
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #297 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 00:16:47 »
Quote from: litster on Mon, 03 October 2016, 19:33:41
Got in touch with zefyr.  He is going to take care of it.  Thanks zefyr!

Meanwhile, I need a good short spacebar (2.75x?).  That long shift key is hurting my thumb.  I flipped it upside down and it doesn't hurt as much, but it is still a little weird.

Best ergo keyboard ever IMO.  And I have a lot of ergo keyboards.  Love the acrylic tent.  Really well designed.  It is made of acrylic but there is no flex!

I have tried SP's DSA with space (mixing with DCS) and that worked for me :)
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #298 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 01:02:50 »
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #299 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 04:32:28 »
Quote from: zefyr on Tue, 04 October 2016, 01:02:50
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
Yeah, happens quite a bit in this hobby. Korean kustoms, artisans, keysets etc.
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