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Offline Petch

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB COMING 9.10.17 6PM PST)
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 16:51:05 »
I have to be honest, 120 USD seems excessive given that it's not even being run on the site that automatically adds VAT.  Is there a particular reason you decided to use that vendor for US orders?  Other Maxkeys buys are around $80, a max of $100 if they have a set of novelties.

One quick Public Announcement. You do not pay VAT if you are not in the EU. You take orders via ye_cole and the prices are different.

Will the price drop from 120 as more people order, or is that fixed? nvm, helps if I scroll to the bottom  :D
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 September 2017, 16:54:16 by Petch »

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB COMING 9.10.17 6PM PST)
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 17:06:37 »
There really needs to be a link to the NA order form in the first post. As it's currently written, NA people are directed to order from CandyKeys and then in a small red link hidden on the page is the link to the NA order form. Why not just have ye_cole link the google form on the OP of this post? Seems like a more straightforward way of doing it instead of linking to CandyKeys only to be redirected a different site.

I'll be honest, I want this keyset but ye_cole's organization has made me very hesitant to place an order. 

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB COMING 9.10.17 6PM PST)
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 17:23:24 »
There really needs to be a link to the NA order form in the first post. As it's currently written, NA people are directed to order from CandyKeys and then in a small red link hidden on the page is the link to the NA order form. Why not just have ye_cole link the google form on the OP of this post? Seems like a more straightforward way of doing it instead of linking to CandyKeys only to be redirected a different site.

I'll be honest, I want this keyset but ye_cole's organization has made me very hesitant to place an order.

We will get it to the top. Thanks for the suggestion. IF you would like to order in the US, use this form: https://goo.gl/forms/282XqLCveJ5aLW8O2
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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB COMING 9.10.17 6PM PST)
« Reply #103 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 17:40:23 »
Definitely picking up a set, love the colorway but not the price of the original set, this is the best of both worlds.

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB COMING 9.10.17 6PM PST)
« Reply #104 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 17:47:10 »
Just submitted my order on the google form, thanks so much for putting this together! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB Ready! Kinda! 2 Hours for Asia.)
« Reply #105 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 18:12:00 »
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There really needs to be a link to the NA order form in the first post. As it's currently written, NA people are directed to order from CandyKeys and then in a small red link hidden on the page is the link to the NA order form. Why not just have ye_cole link the google form on the OP of this post? Seems like a more straightforward way of doing it instead of linking to CandyKeys only to be redirected a different site.

I'll be honest, I want this keyset but ye_cole's organization has made me very hesitant to place an order.

Sorry about that. I've added a NA order form to the OP. I'll be updating my reddit posts as well with the NA order form link. This is happening because I've been trying to get the order form working properly on a spreadsheet (it was OG hosted on candykeys, and couldn't easily access info from that form) so I switched to google forms instead, and haven't updated the OP's on anything I've posted yet.


With that being said, thank you for your feedback. I hope you can understand why this happened.

Edit: added order form here for anyone browsing:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfiz8-m7Oh3jmwKtPeUxUzmHeGWFfo7o0yqfJMnTzquTRpw8g/viewform?usp=sf_link
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 September 2017, 18:55:28 by ye_cole »

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB Ready! Kinda! 2 Hours for Asia.)
« Reply #106 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 18:35:21 »
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I have to be honest, 120 USD seems excessive given that it's not even being run on the site that automatically adds VAT.  Is there a particular reason you decided to use that vendor for US orders?  Other Maxkeys buys are around $80, a max of $100 if they have a set of novelties.

You're right. I had a cost breakdown of the set that I posted on reddit earlier, I'll link it here.

Hey! Great question.
The reason the price is increased is because of 3 things:
Custom Molds
Duplicate Keys
Mold opening fees
As you can see, I have around 15-20 custom molds for them to make. Unfortunately, those really jack up the price. Also, they're charging for 7u spacebars and dupe 6u spacebars. They didn't do that when miami nights was being ordered. The tilde and esc keys also add around 1.75 dollars to the set.
Finally, they charge 6000 to start the custom mold making process. After this, you have to pay again to include the custom molds in the set. However, including the molds isn't that expensive, only around 7 dollars extra per set. The 6000 mold opening fee is, though, which is why I have so many drop points, as it is a constant fee that is being split over many orders.

TLDR: mold opening fees cost 6200 USD. this adds like 30 dollars to every set at a MOQ of 200. As you can see, I have drop points in order to compensate for this.



Thanks for the response, I apparently didn't pay enough attention and didn't realize you were doing a bunch of custom molds, which definitely explains the cost.

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB Ready! Kinda! 2 Hours for Asia.)
« Reply #107 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 18:52:29 »
I see Asia drop will be live in 8 hours but will shipping be calculated during checkout?

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB Ready! Kinda! 2 Hours for Asia.)
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 19:11:32 »
It says "Shipping & taxes calculated at checkout" when you try to check out.

Offline Pepe_Silvia

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Re: [IC] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB Ready! Kinda! 1hr for Asia).
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:05:57 »
Did samples from Maxkey come back?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #110 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:42:14 »
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Did samples from Maxkey come back?

I actually just got the color matching done today from 2 keys of the OG calm depths.

I'll order the samples during the GB, probably next saturday or sunday.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 20:42:35 »
Also GB started! Mods pls move. :)

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 10 September 2017, 22:09:01 »
Also GB started! Mods pls move. :)

Moved and GLWGB! :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 00:28:32 »
We've had a great first day. Nearly to 25% of the MOQ, and only in north america.

Signing off, won't answer questions until tomorrow. Thanks everyone! :D

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 01:19:34 »
Just a heads-up for those participating in the Asian side of things :cool:

Vietnam:

I'm working with a friend from VNMK to get all orders shipped in bulk to Vietnam, and then distributed locally. That should cut down on costs drastically.
Please hold from ordering at the moment.

Malaysia:

I'm looking to get all Malaysian orders shipped via poslaju one way or another.
Please hold from ordering at the moment.

NZ/AU:

Unfortunately given that you guys are down under I can't find cheaper shipping options then what is listed on the site, please proceed to buy :P

Rest of the Asian countries, GB is a go as usual. Please do not hesitate to contact me via PM on GH, slack, Reddit or email monokei.us (at)gmail(dot)com

Cheers and have a good one  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #115 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 03:51:27 »
Just a heads-up for those participating in the Asian side of things :cool:

Vietnam:

I'm working with a friend from VNMK to get all orders shipped in bulk to Vietnam, and then distributed locally. That should cut down on costs drastically.
Please hold from ordering at the moment.

Malaysia:

I'm looking to get all Malaysian orders shipped via poslaju one way or another.
Please hold from ordering at the moment.

NZ/AU:

Unfortunately given that you guys are down under I can't find cheaper shipping options then what is listed on the site, please proceed to buy :P

Rest of the Asian countries, GB is a go as usual. Please do not hesitate to contact me via PM on GH, slack, Reddit or email monokei.us (at)gmail(dot)com

Cheers and have a good one  :thumb:

Is there anyone working on the Chinese orders? Since maxkeys is in China, It's quite convenient to ship the orders from China directly.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #116 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 10:28:04 »
No, sorry! I asked Maxkey if they offered drop shipping, and my answer was no. I'm not going to push it, so unfortunately Chinese orders will have to go out of China and then come back in.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #117 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 17:23:27 »
If we join now, how will future drop point discounts be handled on monokei/shopify?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #118 on: Mon, 11 September 2017, 17:24:21 »
Shopify allows for partial refunds without any extra charge. :)

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:20:42 »
When are you expecting samples?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:36:02 »
Waiting for a response from them at the moment. Will update when further information is known.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 00:54:49 »
Waiting for a response from them at the moment. Will update when further information is known.

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Thanks

I see here

NA  = 79
Candykeys = 88

So is it safe to say only 9 orders so far outside NA during the time it was updated?
« Last Edit: Tue, 12 September 2017, 01:19:09 by punksinatra »

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #122 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 01:16:44 »
Waiting for a response from them at the moment. Will update when further information is known.

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Thanks

I see here

NA  = 79
Candykeys = 88

So is it safe to say only 9 orders so far outside EU during the time it was updated?

I think you're misinterpreting that.  I believe that means there are 88 EU orders placed through Candykeys, plus another 79 orders in North America placed through the Google form, for a total of 167 orders so far through those two sources of orders (plus however many have come in through Monokei for Asia).

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #123 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 01:18:40 »
Waiting for a response from them at the moment. Will update when further information is known.

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Thanks

I see here

NA  = 79
Candykeys = 88

So is it safe to say only 9 orders so far outside NA during the time it was updated?

I think you're misinterpreting that.  I believe that means there are 88 EU orders placed through Candykeys, plus another 79 orders in North America placed through the Google form, for a total of 167 orders so far through those two sources of orders (plus however many have come in through Monokei for Asia).

That is what I would like to think but if you read below the status bar it says

"Update of Progress Bar can be delayed. Showing Asian + EU + US Orders (Asian Orders Updated Sep.11)"

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #124 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 01:22:42 »
Initially, they tried to host the ordering for North America on Candykeys, then they switched to a Google form.  I suspect the text you're looking at is an artifact of that.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #125 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 01:23:58 »
Initially, they tried to host the ordering for North America on Candykeys, then they switched to a Google form.  I suspect the text you're looking at is an artifact of that.

Hopefully because I really wanna know the updated numbers so I can figure out when to join since I have to calculate expenses and all that stuff hahaha

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #126 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 03:21:51 »
Update for Asian orders:

Vietnam:

A friend of mine has agreed to help ship the orders as one bulk shipment from SG to VN. Check out the VNMK page for more details.

Malaysia:

All orders are now shipped via Poslaju. Shipping price is $3 USD (RM12).

As always, do PM or email if you've any questions  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 08:22:06 »
Update for Asian orders:

Vietnam:

A friend of mine has agreed to help ship the orders as one bulk shipment from SG to VN. Check out the VNMK page for more details.

Malaysia:

All orders are now shipped via Poslaju. Shipping price is $3 USD (RM12).

As always, do PM or email if you've any questions  :thumb:

Sweet hahaha $3 next day delivery shipping. I guess someone will ship it for you? Or you will cross the border to ship?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 11:00:28 »
Update for Asian orders:

Vietnam:

A friend of mine has agreed to help ship the orders as one bulk shipment from SG to VN. Check out the VNMK page for more details.

Malaysia:

All orders are now shipped via Poslaju. Shipping price is $3 USD (RM12).

As always, do PM or email if you've any questions  :thumb:

Sweet hahaha $3 next day delivery shipping. I guess someone will ship it for you? Or you will cross the border to ship?
I'm Malaysian so it's just a short trip back home ;)
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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 12 September 2017, 19:17:20 »
Update for Asian orders:

Vietnam:

A friend of mine has agreed to help ship the orders as one bulk shipment from SG to VN. Check out the VNMK page for more details.

Malaysia:

All orders are now shipped via Poslaju. Shipping price is $3 USD (RM12).

As always, do PM or email if you've any questions  :thumb:

Sweet hahaha $3 next day delivery shipping. I guess someone will ship it for you? Or you will cross the border to ship?
I'm Malaysian so it's just a short trip back home ;)

Eh, didn't know.... so sell me the carbon kits :)

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #130 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 02:51:39 »
Bump!!!

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #131 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 08:30:26 »
The form said "to 200 more until the next drop point" that can't be right... 🤣 I feel like we should be about a few dozens away right?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 08:39:13 »
The form said "to 200 more until the next drop point" that can't be right... 🤣 I feel like we should be about a few dozens away right?

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Not sure if the status bar here https://www.candykeys.com/product/gb-sa-calm-depths-maxkey/ show the updated progress

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 10:20:41 »
I need it with 2U shift. What a pity.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 14:46:37 »
I need it with 2U shift. What a pity.

How many 2u shift do you need? The kit already has 2.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 15:05:27 »
I need it with 2U shift. What a pity.

How many 2u shift do you need? The kit already has 2.
It has two 2.25u shifts for f660 layouts but I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with any 2u shifts.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 18:33:22 »
I need it with 2U shift. What a pity.

How many 2u shift do you need? The kit already has 2.
It has two 2.25u shifts for f660 layouts but I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with any 2u shifts.

Oww, sorry about that.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 20:43:36 »
How do I check if I have joined this group buy or not?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 20:45:10 »
Uhh, you submitted the form? If you're not sure if you did, pm me with your email address please. Just that. :)

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 23:19:40 »
Somewhat small update:

So, requested samples. They requested payment through Alipay, and I'd rather not deal with that, so I asked to pay via direct wiring. This exchange took a couple of days. They've pretty much agreed, and waiting for them to reply to my latest email. Should be able to place order for samples soon. :)

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 14 September 2017, 20:28:28 »
Is there an update to the # of MOQ?

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 14 September 2017, 21:08:09 »
Ooh, crap. Keep forgetting to update that on geekhack, I usually just update my reddit posts. Updated!

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #142 on: Fri, 15 September 2017, 06:08:45 »
There were a few people that wanted to call this Clam Derps. I will forever refer to this as that  ;D

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #143 on: Fri, 15 September 2017, 16:36:24 »
I'm talking directly to Maxkey too, and they told me that jchan indeed helped with some fixes but that most of it is their own initiative. Not to take away anything from jchan/kingnestea but people need to know that Maxkey isn't clueless or stubborn, and they want to be the best.

Indeed, they did surprise me when they told me that they are willing to do the fixes, it's just the cost because Maxkey isn't a one man business and they had different visions on that.

I'm glad that we worked something out.
Yes, they're moving quickly and it's a good thing for everybody. I know some people will stick with SP and not buy anything else, but now we actually have a serious alternative for everybody else.

Sorry for derailing the thread.

So the question is when are you putting in your GB for the new troubled minds set with this vendor ?
            

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB STARTED :D)
« Reply #144 on: Mon, 18 September 2017, 09:58:14 »
There were a few people that wanted to call this Clam Derps. I will forever refer to this as that  ;D

I was on the fence about joining, but this put me over the edge.

I'll have one Clam Derps, please.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB GOIN WELL :D)
« Reply #145 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 12:46:09 »
Great job. Maxkey a good manufacturer.  :thumb:

I hope maxkey can make additon kit for non-standart layout in feature, and nove key too.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB GOIN WELL :D)
« Reply #146 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 13:26:57 »
I have a question...

The pricing on the US Group Buy seems based on the number of units ordered in just the US.  Currently the order form shows 115 orders and a price of $123.89.  The number of orders listed in the original post is 111, so I assume these are the same figures but one is simply more current than the other.

If there are 111 or 115 US orders, I assume that the total number of orders from the US plus Asia plus Europe is much higher.  Wouldn't the discount be based on the combined total of all orders from all regions, since I assume that they all will be submitted and paid for at the same time?

I know that Massdrop Group Buys are regularly criticized, but at least you can commit when pricing reaches a certain level, and you have an accurate idea of where total orders and current pricing stands.  With this Group Buy, I don't really know any of this and, if I want to buy at a lower price than $123, have to simply order and hope that all orders are actually totaled and I'll get a lower price in the end.

I'm not trying to be critical for no reason, but would prefer that my order wasn't based on guesswork.  Not to mention that the confusion with order forms, totals, and pricing doesn't make me feel too confident overall.  Again, not being critical, just honest... and hoping for some clarity and reassurance before I order.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB GOIN WELL :D)
« Reply #147 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 13:34:35 »
I think it has been mentioned before that the order count in candykeys is all of them (US+Euro+Asia). Based on the latest numbers they are displaying we are 70% till MOQ of 200 sets. Hopefully we can reach the remaining 30% in the next 10 days! With these types of buys I always go in with the assumption that I'm going to be paying the min MOQ price and any price drops are just a bonus

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB GOIN WELL :D)
« Reply #148 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 15:46:34 »
I have a question...

The pricing on the US Group Buy seems based on the number of units ordered in just the US.  Currently the order form shows 115 orders and a price of $123.89.  The number of orders listed in the original post is 111, so I assume these are the same figures but one is simply more current than the other.

If there are 111 or 115 US orders, I assume that the total number of orders from the US plus Asia plus Europe is much higher.  Wouldn't the discount be based on the combined total of all orders from all regions, since I assume that they all will be submitted and paid for at the same time?

I know that Massdrop Group Buys are regularly criticized, but at least you can commit when pricing reaches a certain level, and you have an accurate idea of where total orders and current pricing stands.  With this Group Buy, I don't really know any of this and, if I want to buy at a lower price than $123, have to simply order and hope that all orders are actually totaled and I'll get a lower price in the end.

I'm not trying to be critical for no reason, but would prefer that my order wasn't based on guesswork.  Not to mention that the confusion with order forms, totals, and pricing doesn't make me feel too confident overall.  Again, not being critical, just honest... and hoping for some clarity and reassurance before I order.
The multitude of pricing and order form bugs have me a little skeptical as well. If I join, it'll be at the end of the gb period so hopefully all issues are resolved at that point. I really do like the aesthetic of the set.

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Re: [GB] Maxkey SA Calm Depths (GB GOIN WELL :D)
« Reply #149 on: Tue, 19 September 2017, 15:59:16 »
I have a question...

The pricing on the US Group Buy seems based on the number of units ordered in just the US.  Currently the order form shows 115 orders and a price of $123.89.  The number of orders listed in the original post is 111, so I assume these are the same figures but one is simply more current than the other.

If there are 111 or 115 US orders, I assume that the total number of orders from the US plus Asia plus Europe is much higher.  Wouldn't the discount be based on the combined total of all orders from all regions, since I assume that they all will be submitted and paid for at the same time?

I know that Massdrop Group Buys are regularly criticized, but at least you can commit when pricing reaches a certain level, and you have an accurate idea of where total orders and current pricing stands.  With this Group Buy, I don't really know any of this and, if I want to buy at a lower price than $123, have to simply order and hope that all orders are actually totaled and I'll get a lower price in the end.

I'm not trying to be critical for no reason, but would prefer that my order wasn't based on guesswork.  Not to mention that the confusion with order forms, totals, and pricing doesn't make me feel too confident overall.  Again, not being critical, just honest... and hoping for some clarity and reassurance before I order.

I would like to know the same. The numbers for the GB seem to have been really all over the place (even stretching back to the IC).